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Nov 08 05:33:26 <ionstorm> Where is a good place for android example code/tutorials
Nov 08 05:35:58 <languish> ionstorm, there are a few places. code.google.com/android  of course. also the andev forums and there was some stuff here http://android.jim.sh
Nov 08 05:36:20 <ionstorm> languish, thanks, what do you prefer for a new coder
Nov 08 05:36:29 <ionstorm> i really want to learn this
Nov 08 05:36:49 <languish> ionstorm http://www.anddev.org/index.php?c=2
Nov 08 05:37:00 <ionstorm> thanks
Nov 08 05:37:27 <languish> ionstorm, I'm not a coder. Just a bit aware of the topic :)
Nov 08 06:13:47 <Laz> can we compile certain packages in the source instead of the whole thing?
Nov 08 06:16:13 <muthu> Laz: use 'mm' or 'mmm'
Nov 08 06:17:48 <romainguy> Laz: mmm path/to/module snod && adb sync
Nov 08 06:18:23 <Laz> ok
Nov 08 06:22:14 <Laz> i saw your google groups reply to this :) it helped a lot
Nov 08 07:16:05 <mr_lou> Morning
Nov 08 07:18:24 <mr_lou> What kind of music formats do you use in your Android games? Does it play MIDI and AMR like JavaME? Can you use MODs and XMs without problems?
Nov 08 07:31:56 <spikebike> dunno, I hear ogg is one of the preferred
Nov 08 07:37:21 <mr_lou> Hmm
Nov 08 07:37:44 <mr_lou> I think that's what developers do on the iPhone as well, but I just imagine games being insanely big then.
Nov 08 07:37:57 <spikebike> ogg compresses well
Nov 08 07:38:10 <spikebike> as good or better than mp3 at low bit rates
Nov 08 07:38:22 <spikebike> and besides storage is cheap
Nov 08 07:38:31 <spikebike> I added 8GB to my g1 for $30
Nov 08 07:39:36 <mr_lou> XM and MOD are much smaller, and MIDI even smaller, but I'd prefer using XM or MOD. That format also offers more control with the music.
Nov 08 07:40:01 <mr_lou> But there has to be a player for it of course.
Nov 08 07:40:05 <spikebike> dunno
Nov 08 07:40:12 <spikebike> might be a poor choise for a game
Nov 08 07:40:23 <spikebike> I suspect the g1 cpu is about as fast as the cpu in most sound cards ;-)
Nov 08 07:40:36 <mr_lou> Then it should be possible.
Nov 08 07:40:57 <mr_lou> With JavaME you can play mp3 files as well, but it's not fast enough to play MODs and XMs.
Nov 08 07:41:21 <spikebike> well ideally your game would be spending some of it's cpu on running the game ;-)
Nov 08 07:42:03 <mr_lou> Oh... sound cards.
Nov 08 07:42:21 <mr_lou> Er
Nov 08 07:42:29 <mr_lou> You mean it's not that fast?
Nov 08 07:45:59 <mr_lou> Windows smartphone games uses MOD all the time. Surely Android must be able to also then.
Nov 08 08:37:37 <ionstorm> I just got a update notification, and pressed update later, how do I bring it back up to update
Nov 08 08:40:45 <spikebike> just sleep
Nov 08 08:40:47 <spikebike> and wake up
Nov 08 08:40:51 <spikebike> er end
Nov 08 08:40:55 <spikebike> please do suid first
Nov 08 14:54:59 <tauno> hmm.. why can't I replace the Dialog in onPrepareDialog(int id, Dialog dialog) with some other Dialog that I create there? :)
Nov 08 14:56:23 <tauno> eg dialog =  new AlertDialog.Builder(this).create();
Nov 08 14:58:59 <tauno> ..or is there any other way that I can change the items (Dialog was created in onCreateDialog() using AlertDialog.Builder.setItems()) in onPrepareDialog()?
Nov 08 15:13:22 <tauno> found a way.. I call removeDialog(id); before doing dialog = new AlertDialog... in onPrepareDialog().
Nov 08 16:39:02 <tauno> wonder how can I easily display styled text in a Dialog (created using AlertDialog.Builder.setItems())? Tried passing in a CharSequence that contained styled text but that didn't work
Nov 08 16:41:19 <tauno> currently I do AlertDialog.Builder.setAdapter() and then use a custom Adapter that spits out TextViews that contain the styled text.. but it does not look as good as the list that is created by using AlertDialog.Builder.setItems()
Nov 08 16:43:47 <tauno> ..should use ArrayAdapter I guess..
Nov 08 17:02:36 <tauno> hmm..what if I wanted to use android.R.id.text1 as the TextView in an ArrayAdapter?..
Nov 08 17:02:55 <tauno> ArrayAdapter(myContext, android.R.id.text1) is clearly not working..
Nov 08 17:05:28 <tauno> gives me a "android.content.res.Resources$NotFoundException: File  from xml type layout resource ID #0x1020014" <- that's because the context is.. "wrong"? :)
Nov 08 17:15:45 <tauno> romainguy__, I guess you could save the day here again :)
Nov 08 17:18:48 <tauno> another option would be to take text1 and include it in my app but I haven't located it in the source yet.. and this solution would be.. lame
Nov 08 18:07:43 <tauno> ah.. I'm getting everything wrong again :P
Nov 08 18:07:52 <tauno> disregard my last questions :P
Nov 08 20:09:17 <KNY> hey guys, I'm curious about just seeing what goes on behind the scenes when you make a call--where should I start looking?
Nov 08 20:34:41 <ionstorm> anyone newbie programming tutorials for android for a beginning programmer
Nov 08 20:35:09 <ionstorm> been searching google, just see docs that are quite advanced and dont explain the code thoroughly
Nov 08 20:39:05 <KNY> ionstorm, for programming android applications?
Nov 08 20:39:15 <ionstorm> KNY, yea
Nov 08 20:39:19 <KNY> http://code.google.com/p/android/
Nov 08 20:39:44 <KNY> http://code.google.com/android/intro/index.html
Nov 08 20:39:52 <KNY> go through the notepad tutorial
Nov 08 20:40:03 <ionstorm> thanks
Nov 08 22:52:44 <michaelnovak-g1_> Howdy
Nov 08 22:54:06 <michaelnovak-g1_> Quiet in here today
Nov 08 23:10:39 <SanMehat> hola
Nov 08 23:14:01 <michaelnovakjr__> :)
Nov 08 23:14:04 <michaelnovakjr__> i was testing IR
Nov 08 23:14:06 <michaelnovakjr__> C
Nov 08 23:14:30 <michaelnovakjr__> IRC on my G1
Nov 08 23:23:05 <KNY> michaelnovak-g1_, what clinet?
Nov 08 23:23:09 <KNY> client, too
Nov 08 23:27:47 <michaelnovakjr__> KNY: mine
Nov 08 23:28:09 <KNY> nice, I've been looking for an IRC app
Nov 08 23:28:22 <michaelnovakjr__> its coming along.... needs work but i have it functioning
Nov 08 23:29:44 <KNY> is this planning on being closed-source?
Nov 08 23:29:50 <KNY> if not, I wouldn't mind helping
Nov 08 23:30:01 <michaelnovakjr__> i'm going to open the source up
Nov 08 23:30:09 <michaelnovakjr__> i'm all about open source
Nov 08 23:30:10 <michaelnovakjr__> :)
Nov 08 23:30:29 <KNY> nice :) send me a pm or something when you get a repo set up or something, would you?
Nov 08 23:30:39 <michaelnovakjr__> no problem, thanks :)
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