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Nov 22 07:52:03 <jasta> Disconnect: hey, i just tested my code on a real device and had no problems whatsoever.
Nov 22 08:05:23 <gambler> jasta, with web download?
Nov 22 08:05:41 <jasta> hmm?
Nov 22 08:05:57 <gambler> <jasta> i dont think ive ever been able to successfully install an apk from the web :\
Nov 22 08:06:14 <jasta> yeah, it always fails for weird reasons
Nov 22 08:06:25 <gambler> so this is your 1st time testing five on a handset?
Nov 22 08:06:37 <jasta> uhh no, i use adb
Nov 22 08:07:33 <gambler> hmm ok..can you use five w/o a server?
Nov 22 08:11:03 <jasta> no, what would it do?
Nov 22 08:12:47 <gambler> I dont know I havent tried it yet :p
Nov 22 16:01:58 <SanMehat> morning
Nov 22 16:02:03 <jbq> morning
Nov 22 16:16:15 <ttuttle> morning
Nov 22 16:25:19 <muthu_> night
Nov 22 18:31:34 <jbq> Hey jasonparekh
Nov 22 21:00:51 <doozerdev> Can anyone point me to a class/best-practice for scrolling an oversized (larger than a view's layout) bitmap on both X/Y axis?
Nov 22 21:03:20 <spikebike> like say a bitmap as big as the map of the planet?
Nov 22 21:04:41 <doozerdev> heh.  doesn't have to be huge; just, say, 1000x1000 pixels.  larger than a G1 display could show at any given time.
Nov 22 21:06:13 <doozerdev> right now my solution is to store the large bitmap in memory, then use a matrix to render parts of it to the display canvas.
Nov 22 21:07:09 <spikebike> scrolling only or zoom in/out?
Nov 22 21:07:23 <doozerdev> that seems inefficient for scrolling smoothly, though.  seems like there must be a lower-level way to scroll.
Nov 22 21:07:27 <doozerdev> scrolling only.
Nov 22 21:08:41 <spikebike> bitmap? i.e. 1 or 2?
Nov 22 21:08:57 <spikebike> or a pixmap (8/16/24 bit)?
Nov 22 21:09:02 <spikebike> er 0 or 1
Nov 22 21:10:57 <doozerdev> erm, right now I'm using a Bitmap set to ARGB_8888, but am open to other solutions.  basically I'm drawing lines and some text to it.
Nov 22 21:11:59 <spikebike> 4MB sounds like a decent chunk of the user space memory.
Nov 22 21:14:03 <doozerdev> 1k x 1k was a hypothetical; let's say something more reasonable like 200x700.  it doesn't need to be transparent either, so I should probably bump it down to RGB_565, or simplify colors and use ARGB_4444.
Nov 22 21:19:35 <doozerdev> I was looking at widget.ScrollView, but that only seems to support vertical scrolling.
Nov 22 21:24:28 <romainguy> look at the code for ScrollView
Nov 22 21:24:41 <romainguy> and implement your own view that does the same on both axis
Nov 22 21:27:44 <doozerdev> yeah, that sounds like it might be my best bet.  thought for sure i'd be reinventing the wheel; that there must already be a class built for that purpose.
Nov 22 21:27:53 <romainguy> nope
Nov 22 21:36:33 <doozerdev> thanks for your input!
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