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Apr 06 11:11:23 <clincks> Hi...
Apr 06 11:11:49 <clincks> I need some help to find the right firmware update for my G1 mobile
Apr 06 11:11:52 <clincks> Thanks in advancve
Apr 06 11:26:01 <clincks> need help... I would like to know how to upgrade firmware from RC9 to RC33
Apr 06 11:26:05 <clincks> Thanks in advance
Apr 06 11:28:12 <halley> That sounds like something T-Mobile should help you do.
Apr 06 11:40:34 <clincks> halley, it's indeed a T-Mobile phone from UK... but I'm in europe and would like to upgrade the phone and unlock it. Any idea how to do that?
Apr 06 11:40:37 <clincks> Thanks a lot.
Apr 06 13:45:17 <mickeyc> Is it possible to intercept an incoming call and then redirect it to voicemail if it comes from a certain number?
Apr 06 13:45:42 <mickeyc> I know you can do that as a user from the Contacts menu, but I want a way of programatically deciding what to do with the call
Apr 06 13:46:04 <mickeyc> So if I want to block a number from calling me, I don't have to add it as a contact first
Apr 06 15:05:51 <mickeyc> Google seems to be full of people failing to use ACTION_ANSWER. Anyone here know how to actually use it?
Apr 06 18:29:19 <F|nger> hi
Apr 06 18:31:56 <CTPE^OK> Hello\
Apr 06 18:32:22 <CTPE^OK> I have a question about the ScrollView
Apr 06 18:33:15 <CTPE^OK> Does it have any method, that returns current position
Apr 06 18:34:26 <vol> don't know offhand, sorry
Apr 06 18:36:55 <jsharkey> CTPE^OK: getScrollX() and getScrollY()
Apr 06 18:38:13 <CTPE^OK> o
Apr 06 18:38:17 <CTPE^OK> thanks
Apr 06 18:38:42 <CTPE^OK> one more question
Apr 06 18:39:32 <CTPE^OK> I want it to scroll one page down if I touch the screen at the bottom edge
Apr 06 18:40:51 <jsharkey> you want that to override the normal scrolling/flinging behavior completely, or just be an alternative?
Apr 06 18:41:19 <CTPE^OK> alternative
Apr 06 18:41:22 <zhobbs> scrollTo()
Apr 06 18:41:39 <jsharkey> you could override onTouchEvent, and catch and handle those edge touches early
Apr 06 18:41:45 <zhobbs> getScrollY() + getHeight()
Apr 06 18:41:48 <jsharkey> or pass through to super.onTouchEvent() if they dont match edges
Apr 06 18:42:08 <jsharkey> and yea, then use zhobbs math to do the actula scrolling  :)
Apr 06 18:42:55 <zhobbs> jsharkey: hows the new job?
Apr 06 18:43:05 <jsharkey> lovin it
Apr 06 18:43:17 <jsharkey> having git fun right now
Apr 06 18:43:18 <zhobbs> are you at liberty to say what parts you are working on?
Apr 06 18:43:53 <jsharkey> zhobbs: pretty much yea
Apr 06 18:44:00 <jsharkey> all my stuff is being pushed to open source git
Apr 06 18:44:09 <zhobbs> cool - so what you working on?
Apr 06 18:44:18 <jsharkey> ive been having fun with home screen widgets, among other things
Apr 06 18:44:28 <zhobbs> nice
Apr 06 20:34:28 <CTPE^OK> is any difference between overriding onTouchEvent and setting OtTouchListener?
Apr 06 20:35:04 <CTPE^OK> *OnTouchListener?
Apr 06 20:42:04 <ctate> you don't have to have a custom subclass to use an OnTouchListener
Apr 06 20:42:54 <CTPE^OK> View subclass?
Apr 06 20:44:01 <CTPE^OK> I need to have a class which implements OntouchListener interface
Apr 06 20:45:03 <CTPE^OK> I want to catch EDGE_BOTTOM touch
Apr 06 20:45:21 <CTPE^OK> but getEdgeFlags returns 0
Apr 06 20:46:30 <CTPE^OK> wherever I touch the screen
Apr 06 20:52:17 <ctate> sorry, right; you don't need to subclass View to use an OnTouchListener
Apr 06 21:02:26 <CTPE^OK> is it possible to change the edge size
Apr 06 21:03:45 <CTPE^OK> because in order to catch EDGE_BOTTOM flag I have to touch the screen exactly at the edge
Apr 06 21:04:44 <tbr> do i need to do anything special if i'm distributing an application myself?
Apr 06 21:05:07 <tbr> i've signed it and just hosted it on my webserver. i don't need a special mime type or anything do i?
Apr 06 21:09:27 <vol> for the apk? I don't think so
Apr 06 21:09:45 <vol> I downloaded an app from my webserver w/o putting anything like that on, iirc.
Apr 06 21:12:25 <tbr> i've had a few downloads by the looks of it and no nasty emails yet so i think i'm good
Apr 06 21:14:29 <vol> link me?
Apr 06 21:14:33 <vol> (what did you make) ?
Apr 06 21:18:11 <ctate> CTPE^OK: the whole point of EDGE_BOTTOM is to let you know when the touch is at the very edge of the screen
Apr 06 21:18:42 <CTPE^OK> i got it
Apr 06 21:19:05 <CTPE^OK> i made it with getY and view.getHeight
Apr 06 21:19:29 <ctate> oho
Apr 06 21:19:37 <ctate> EDGE_* are about the *screen*, not about views
Apr 06 21:20:46 <ctate> those flags are set at quite a low level during input event handling
Apr 06 21:21:26 <ctate> [in InputDevice.java if you care to look at the source code in git]
Apr 06 21:22:15 <tbr> vol, one second
Apr 06 21:33:16 <tbr> vol, http://jakewharton.com/downloads/
Apr 06 21:35:51 <vol> hah, ah.
Apr 06 21:36:01 <zhobbs> wow...
Apr 06 21:36:11 <vol> I can see why this would be pulled from market.
Apr 06 21:36:24 <zhobbs> haha, free money for the carriers though
Apr 06 21:36:44 <tbr> check out the 2.0.0 UI: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jakewharton/3349405613/
Apr 06 21:37:02 <haitiankid4lyf> wow i came in just in time
Apr 06 21:37:03 <vol> until the person barraged calls customer service and screams, screams, screams,
Apr 06 21:37:11 <haitiankid4lyf> free software yay!
Apr 06 21:38:36 <DouglasN> I think such things are the reason that here in Europe most countries forbid carriers to charge the reciever of calls or SMS.
Apr 06 21:38:53 <vol> the real reason is that your legislature is not outright for sale
Apr 06 21:39:05 <DouglasN> It's really bad enough as it is. ^^ I could imagine this to be useful for testing purposes. Like a very expensive PING.
Apr 06 21:40:07 <DouglasN> vol, I don't understand, are you from the US?
Apr 06 21:40:20 <DouglasN> Oh sorry, I misread again.
Apr 06 21:40:23 <DouglasN> It's all clear now.
Apr 06 21:41:13 <vol> yes, I am
Apr 06 21:43:05 <lazyidiot> I'm trying to record audio to hardware buffer - but, when I try that, Im getting an error Cannot enable audpre - can anyone help me on that
Apr 06 21:43:19 <DouglasN> I noticed Michelle Obama to be on the majority of magazine covers today. She IS spiffy, admitedly, but I think the hype is gone too far. ;)
Apr 06 21:44:06 <DouglasN> Okay, I guess I can't possibly get less coherent. I have to sleep, good night folks. :)
Apr 06 22:28:40 <clincks> May I ask some help?
Apr 06 22:28:49 <clincks> I'm newbee with the G1
Apr 06 22:28:56 <clincks> I would like to backup the system
Apr 06 22:29:00 <clincks> how to do that?
Apr 06 22:29:04 <clincks> Thanks a lot
Apr 06 22:29:10 <zhobbs> is it rooted?
Apr 06 22:29:20 <svm_invictvs> THe android supports sqlite 3, right?
Apr 06 22:31:07 <clincks> I have a tMobile phone from UK with RC9 firmware
Apr 06 22:32:28 <clincks> zhobbs, any idea?
Apr 06 22:32:40 <vol> clincks: I'll take that as a no, it's not rooted?
Apr 06 22:32:49 <vol> you can't really easily 'back up' the system if it's not
Apr 06 22:33:17 <clincks> vol, ok... how to root it then?
Apr 06 22:33:17 <vol> that said, things like contacts will replicate to your google account, so you don't have to worry about losing them
Apr 06 22:33:26 <vol> there are instructions on how to do it online
Apr 06 22:33:50 <vol> I don't recommend doing it unless you're willing to  live with the very small chance of your phone being a very shiny brick
Apr 06 22:33:53 <zhobbs> it's not a simple process if you are non-technical
Apr 06 22:33:57 <vol> ^^
Apr 06 22:44:52 <svm_invictvs> I just reset a G1 to factory.
Apr 06 22:44:58 <svm_invictvs> And It's not letting me into the menu.
Apr 06 22:45:06 <svm_invictvs> I don't have a SIM card for the phone.
Apr 06 22:51:16 <vol> get one :D
Apr 06 22:51:17 <lazyidiot> if you've a rooted G1, get nandroid
Apr 06 22:51:30 <lazyidiot> oh man, lag :p
Apr 06 22:52:00 <svm_invictvs> vol: I'm calling the T-Mobile store....
Apr 06 22:52:16 <vol> "What's that? You don't have a t-mobile account? Oh, sorry, not sure we can help you..."
Apr 06 22:52:55 <svm_invictvs> vol: I'm asking to buy a prepaid sim.
Apr 06 22:53:00 <vol> oh.
Apr 06 22:53:09 <svm_invictvs> for testing our game
Apr 06 22:53:21 <svm_invictvs> Ironically, nobody has tmobile.
Apr 06 23:00:57 <jsharkey> svm_invictvs: is it a dev phone?
Apr 06 23:01:21 <jsharkey> it should work with any sim card, but might need to add an APN
Apr 06 23:01:51 <svm_invictvs> jsharkey: We all have CDMA phones.
Apr 06 23:02:11 <svm_invictvs> jsharkey: We're from san diego, I'm pretty sure you get shot in this town by the Qualcomm mafia if you use GSM ;)
Apr 06 23:02:13 <svm_invictvs> (j/k)
Apr 06 23:02:19 <jsharkey> lol!
Apr 06 23:02:55 <svm_invictvs> (They're not listening, it's ok)
Apr 06 23:03:07 <svm_invictvs> Actually, Qualcomm is backing Android, no?
Apr 06 23:04:05 <jsharkey> they've merged support for their surf chipset iirc
Apr 06 23:04:08 <jsharkey> http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/vendor/qcom/surf.git;a=summary
Apr 07 00:01:49 <halley> Is there a place where people are putting non-trivial whole app source examples?  I'd like something a bit more well-rounded to see how a "real world" app (say, multiple activities, uses popular intents) goes together.
Apr 07 00:02:15 <halley> The hello worlds are just too dinky to see much about integrating different app states, etc.
Apr 07 00:05:06 <filosofico> A poll: how much people here have modified and recompiled android from source? (i.e. how much people aren't only app developers?)
Apr 07 00:06:09 <benno37> +1
Apr 07 00:07:58 <Siroro> is there anyway to browse the sql database?
Apr 07 00:08:03 <Siroro> the litesql db i mean
Apr 07 00:09:30 <svm_invictvs> jsharkey: Given that surf chipset thing, woudl that maybe mean that Dalvik may run on BREW?
Apr 07 00:10:53 <filosofico> Only me & benno37 ... omg .....
Apr 07 00:18:48 <svm_invictvs> grr....
Apr 07 00:19:14 <svm_invictvs> Well, as I said, I found a neat little webkit that makes pretty slick looking pages for Android.
Apr 07 00:19:23 <svm_invictvs> And I got yelled at for brining it up in #android
Apr 07 00:20:50 <AakashPatel> lol you want me to yell here also?
Apr 07 00:22:10 <svm_invictvs> no
Apr 07 00:24:34 <jonasfa> Hello guys... does anybody knows how can i set up my android emulator to use a PROXY?
Apr 07 00:29:33 <svm_invictvs> When I create a SQLite database specifying the name, does that have to be the full path name of the DB?
Apr 07 00:38:06 <filosofico> anyone obtained a working version of android on eeePc since last codebase update (2nd april...) ?
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