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Jun 24 03:00:02 <benh> weird
Jun 24 03:00:07 <benh> I wonder if it could be the jvm
Jun 24 03:00:10 <benh> I'm using IBM JRE
Jun 24 03:00:17 <benh> let me switch to sun and see
Jun 24 03:00:47 <doc_savage> yeah I'd try that, sounds promising :)
Jun 24 03:02:20 <romainguy__> KNY: there are many things from Flex I'd like to port to Android :p
Jun 24 03:04:34 <benh> ok, switching to Sun OpenJDK 6
Jun 24 03:04:40 <benh> sadly it's a lot slower than the IBM JVM
Jun 24 03:05:50 <benh> haha
Jun 24 03:05:50 <benh> fun
Jun 24 03:05:56 <benh> the menu bar comes with menus in a different order now :-)
Jun 24 03:06:07 <benh> gotta love java
Jun 24 03:06:47 <benh> bah, same deal
Jun 24 03:06:48 <benh> same error
Jun 24 03:07:35 <benh> very weird
Jun 24 03:09:13 <doc_savage> benh: try starting eclipse with "-clean"
Jun 24 03:09:13 <KNY> romainguy__, haha, yeah that's so true
Jun 24 03:10:30 <benh> doc_savage: trying now
Jun 24 03:11:03 <benh> doc_savage: same
Jun 24 03:11:25 <doc_savage> hmm, I'm out, poke it with a sharp stick? :)
Jun 24 03:13:47 <doc_savage> benh: if it's any help, apparently error 1 = "Attempt to include a core VM class in something other than a core library. It is likely that you have attempted to include the core library from a desktop virtual machine into an application, which will most assuredly not work."
Jun 24 03:25:00 <benh> doc_savage: no idea :-) it's just projects created by eclipse without any change :-)
Jun 24 03:25:06 <sammyF> KNY: care to see the latest version of my ADC2 thingy before I go?
Jun 24 03:37:55 <KNY> sammyF, sure
Jun 24 03:41:00 <sammyF> still not much happening mind you. Spent the whole day rewriting main parts of the code to get some additional Fps :/
Jun 24 03:42:21 <BeBoo_> ADC2?
Jun 24 03:44:13 <sammyF> BeBoo_: yep. very early pre-alpha "I still don't know exactly whether this will work" kind of ADC2 thing :)
Jun 24 03:44:14 <s1516> Hi, how can I query the Contracts (like the way android's Contracts)?
Jun 24 03:44:27 <s1516> I try doing this  Cursor c = getContentResolver().query(People.CONTENT_URI, null, null, null, null);
Jun 24 03:44:35 <s1516> but it gives me contact in my GTalk (not just the phone contract) as well
Jun 24 03:45:01 <s1516> i only want the contacts that added in the phone.
Jun 24 03:45:03 <KNY> s1516, just look at the contacts app source
Jun 24 03:45:10 <s1516> i did
Jun 24 03:45:22 <s1516> but it has many 'mode'
Jun 24 03:45:28 <BeBoo_> sammyF: lol
Jun 24 03:45:29 <s1516> i don't know which one it is using
Jun 24 03:45:44 <s1516> i did look at ContactsListActivity.java
Jun 24 03:46:40 <KNY> s1516, just think this through then. So, you want to filter which contacts show... seems to me that there's a parameter in query() for that..
Jun 24 03:49:12 <s1516> but i don't know how /what androrid uses to differentiate Phone's contact and GTalk contacts
Jun 24 03:53:09 <jasta> s1516: there is no difference.
Jun 24 03:53:17 <jasta> except for SIM contacts, which are treated separately
Jun 24 03:53:49 <KNY> s1516, whether they have a stored phone number or not. If you set "Display group" to "all" in Contacts then you'll see all of them
Jun 24 03:57:14 <s1516> but if there is no difference, why on Android's Contact application, it does not show GTalk contact
Jun 24 03:57:29 <s1516> and when i query like this
Jun 24 03:57:30 <s1516>  Cursor c = getContentResolver().query(People.CONTENT_URI, null, null, null, null);
Jun 24 03:57:36 <KNY> s1516, re-read my message
Jun 24 03:57:37 <s1516> it shows both phone's contact and gtalk contact
Jun 24 03:59:34 <sammyF> night everybody
Jun 24 04:43:56 <chouman82_> can we not specify the position of the sliding drawer?
Jun 24 04:57:34 <doubleminus> so there's still no way to send email from emulator using email client?
Jun 24 05:00:51 <BeBoo_> doubleminus: get a G1 ;p
Jun 24 05:01:17 <doubleminus> I'd like the unlocked developer phone...but $$
Jun 24 05:01:28 <doubleminus> work seems reluctant to buy for me too
Jun 24 05:02:35 <BeBoo_> the emu does seem rather limited... hard to test certain features. also seems sluggish to me... at least on my app
Jun 24 05:03:30 <doubleminus> sluggish for me too
Jun 24 05:03:41 <doubleminus> wasnt sure if it was my app or not
Jun 24 05:04:20 <BeBoo_> it definately the emu because my app screams on my G1 over wifi lol
Jun 24 05:06:08 <doubleminus> that's good to know for sure
Jun 24 06:30:04 <pfritzsc> Hihi.
Jun 24 06:30:08 <pfritzsc> Anyone awake?
Jun 24 06:57:12 <cj> pfritzsc: if you say something intriguing, you might find out
Jun 24 06:57:45 <pfritzsc> cj: lol, I suppose that's valid.
Jun 24 06:58:35 <pfritzsc> cj: I was running into an error. Was hoping someone might have an idea @_@
Jun 24 06:59:05 <cj> pfritzsc: still not interesting :)
Jun 24 06:59:16 <cj> pfritzsc: nobody knows how to fix a problem you haven't described
Jun 24 07:00:18 <pfritzsc> cj: Haha. I've got this database setup for my app. The database on the whole is functioning, but in one of the functions I use cursor.moveToPosition(pos). It keeps returning to false and not moving the cursor and I haven't the faintest idea why.
Jun 24 07:00:29 <pfritzsc> moveToFirst, etc., all work, but not the specific moveToPosition()
Jun 24 07:02:05 <cj> pfritzsc: much better.  I don't know, but someone should be able to help you with that.
Jun 24 07:02:16 <pfritzsc> Haha, gotcha.
Jun 24 07:02:25 <pfritzsc> cj: If only they were awake ;)
Jun 24 07:02:42 <cj> pfritzsc: *shrug* there are folks in .uk
Jun 24 07:02:46 <cj> ask in #android
Jun 24 07:02:55 <pfritzsc> cj: Mm true. I'll give that a shot.
Jun 24 07:03:02 <pfritzsc> Thanks!
Jun 24 07:03:28 <cj> sure :)
Jun 24 07:32:10 <Saurabh_Shah> Does Android support DVB-T?
Jun 24 07:38:06 <eddie> i have a very noob question im almost ashamed to ask
Jun 24 07:38:32 <Guest56532> in strings.xml, i have <string name="host_label">@picwing.com</string>
Jun 24 07:38:45 <Guest56532> but it keeps complaining about the @ symbol
Jun 24 07:39:12 <Guest56532> any have a solution? using &escape sequences dont work
Jun 24 07:53:40 <msd> I wonder if i can locally mount a remote samba share on android?
Jun 24 07:53:49 <msd> I tried to find more info on a program called Vincent, but had no luck finding it
Jun 24 07:53:58 <msd> If i can locally mount it, i want to use it to stream my music from home
Jun 24 07:54:17 <jasta> somehow i think "@picwing.com" might do it.
Jun 24 07:54:49 <jasta> oh, he left.
Jun 24 07:55:15 <jasta> msd: sure, that would be possible.  if you had the smbfs/cifs kernel modules installed and access to the mount binary.
Jun 24 07:55:30 <jasta> in other words, with a hacked phone, sure you could make that work.  but it will take a lot of work.
Jun 24 07:56:56 <msd> hmm
Jun 24 07:57:13 <msd> its the only requirement i have to buy a android powered phone
Jun 24 07:57:18 <msd> no more need for itnernal storage
Jun 24 07:57:26 <msd> i would 50 bucks for the software :D
Jun 24 07:57:41 <msd> Anyone want to start a project? :D
Jun 24 07:57:50 <jasta> no, and youre probably in the wrong channel if youre asking for this sort of stuff.
Jun 24 07:58:07 <msd> i figured developers would know best :D
Jun 24 07:58:44 <jasta> accessing your data via SMB over WiFi would take so much battery that i cant even imagine why you'd want to do this
Jun 24 07:58:56 <jasta> it sounds very stupid to me
Jun 24 07:58:57 <msd> over 3g....
Jun 24 07:59:07 <jasta> over 3G would be even worse, SMB is a very inefficient protocol.
Jun 24 07:59:17 <msd> sftp is also fine
Jun 24 07:59:29 <msd> but it doesnt support streaming is suppose
Jun 24 07:59:32 <jasta> which also wouldn't work.
Jun 24 07:59:33 <msd> any form of VPN will do
Jun 24 07:59:39 <jasta> please just go away
Jun 24 07:59:55 <msd> hmm hospitable!
Jun 24 08:25:12 <ulrich> is it possible to add a footer view to a listview in xml?
Jun 24 09:34:53 <ObsidianX> how would i go about saving MediaRecorder data to a variable in memory instead of to a file?
Jun 24 09:35:29 <ObsidianX> all im finding are the setOutputFile functions which only write to an actual file
Jun 24 09:44:00 <Amorgos> adn anyone explain to me the difference between a theme and a style.. i just dont get it!
Jun 24 09:49:55 <henrik__> So.. I´ve just started to get my feet wet with android. Any resources besides developer.android I should know about?
Jun 24 09:50:13 <ObsidianX> the wonderful world of well-phrased google searches
Jun 24 09:50:39 <ObsidianX> i learn a lot of stuff from just typing "android <insert class i want to see an example of here"
Jun 24 09:50:41 <henrik__> Tried a few of those to :)
Jun 24 09:50:46 <ObsidianX> ie: android MediaRecorder
Jun 24 09:50:50 <ObsidianX> found a nice little post on how that works
Jun 24 09:51:31 <mharkus> you can also try http://www.androidsnippets.org/
Jun 24 09:52:30 <henrik__> nice
Jun 24 09:52:59 <henrik__> mharkus: just found that one.. Looks decent :)  Thank you. Both of you
Jun 24 09:57:46 <mharkus> ok here's another one http://wiki.andmob.org/start
Jun 24 10:03:10 <Amorgos> anyone know about themes? if so, could you lend me a hand for a few questions. I'm stuck
Jun 24 11:03:43 <henrik__> mharkus: nice :)
Jun 24 12:08:03 <yacc_> Anyone got an idea where Intent.getLong is documented?
Jun 24 12:09:17 <lacostej> Hei hei, I am trying to create an intent which returns data (an index in a list selected). Unfortunately intent.getExtras() doesn't contain the values that child activity has set. See code and logcat extract here: http://pastebin.ca/1472445   Any  idea ?
Jun 24 12:12:05 <lacostej> I've tried returning a different Intent from the child activity, fiddling with the intent-filter in the manifest, but I don't manage to get that #¤(#&" data back.
Jun 24 12:20:20 <lacostej> and I really don't get it why the returned Intent extra Bundle prints mParcelledData.dataSize=12 when using toString() on it.
Jun 24 12:35:13 <lacostej> I've verified with the debugger, and the intent reference I am passing in setResult(RESULT_OK, intent) is not the one being passed to onActivityResult.
Jun 24 12:55:11 <Gaz> weird shit
Jun 24 12:55:22 <Gaz> my surfaceview drops to 40fps when i press the menu key, thats very odd
Jun 24 13:03:49 <lacostej> Ok I've got the beginning of an explication. intent.getExtras() return a new instance each time
Jun 24 13:04:21 <lacostej> that's my bug...
Jun 24 13:24:54 <Gaz> i aint got the beginnings of mine
Jun 24 13:25:01 <Gaz> seems so odd
Jun 24 13:25:33 <sammyF> Gaz: still gettting the slowdowns?
Jun 24 13:29:46 <Gaz> yes when i press menu key sometimes it drops 20fps
Jun 24 13:35:05 <Gaz> confusing as hell
Jun 24 13:35:15 <Gaz> avoided them in other parts by restartign activity, comes back as 60fps
Jun 24 13:35:22 <Gaz> but with menu key press its hard to do that
Jun 24 13:35:28 <Gaz> never seen that?
Jun 24 13:41:05 <pfritzsc> Hey would anyone have a second to help with a Cursor problem? I'm running into an error where moveToPosition(pos) [with a valid pos] is returning false and not moving the cursor, and I've got no idea why.
Jun 24 13:51:59 <vol_> probably because it's not a valid position, even though you think it is
Jun 24 13:52:35 <pfritzsc> vol_: I pulled the db from the phone and checked the ID's as well as printed out the ID it was trying to move to. Both appear to be correct @_@
Jun 24 13:53:20 <vol_> then your query is possibly at fault
Jun 24 13:53:35 <pfritzsc> The cursor itself?
Jun 24 13:54:15 <vol_> uh, sure.
Jun 24 13:54:31 <vol_> btw, this isn't something where you've flipped open the device and the app restarted, right?
Jun 24 13:54:46 <vol_> because you need to reopen the cursor in that case
Jun 24 13:55:08 <pfritzsc> It's not.
Jun 24 13:55:28 <pfritzsc> Hrm. I guess I'll recheck the query.
Jun 24 13:55:31 <vol_> ok. Does this happen for every position, or just that one?
Jun 24 13:55:35 <pfritzsc> Every one.
Jun 24 13:55:56 <pfritzsc> moveToFirst(), next, etc., all work, though.
Jun 24 13:56:09 <vol_> hmm
Jun 24 13:56:24 <pfritzsc> Exactly, lol. >_<
Jun 24 13:56:45 <vol_> not really sure what to suggest.
Jun 24 13:56:55 <pfritzsc> Ok.
Jun 24 13:57:04 <pfritzsc> No worries- I figured I might as well give it a shot.
Jun 24 13:57:07 <pfritzsc> Thanks!
Jun 24 13:58:57 <pfritzsc> vol_: I've got one more question for you, if you're willing and know anything about video recording?
Jun 24 13:59:20 <vol_> I know absolutely nothing, sorry
Jun 24 13:59:29 <pfritzsc> Oki. Thanks anyway :)
Jun 24 13:59:39 <vol_> no problem, wait around, someone else might be able to help
Jun 24 14:01:02 <pfritzsc> True. On that note, if anyone happens to know much about writing out videos created from the system's video capture intent call, help would be hugely appreciated :)
Jun 24 14:50:10 <JerseyMonkey> Hi folks, i'm looking into XMPP/Jabber clients, yet it seems since 1.1/1.5, XMPP support was removed. Anyone know of any 'current' solutions to support XMPP?
Jun 24 14:56:57 <Varan> Is it possible to change the scale of the battery information from ACTION_BATTERY_CHANGED?
Jun 24 14:59:06 <androidguru_> hi how can I create the ListAdapter
Jun 24 14:59:29 <vol_> is it really reasonable to have your name be "guru" if you don't know that?
Jun 24 15:00:11 <androidguru_> up muzku ullu nahi banayega
Jun 24 15:00:57 <androidguru_> vol_:You sanaz giya na
Jun 24 15:01:44 <androidguru_> vol_:Plz help me
Jun 24 15:02:00 <CursedMonkey> what do you mean by create ListAdapter? Do you mean how to extend it and create your own or how to add it to a ListView?
Jun 24 15:02:20 <vol_> lrn 2 spk nglsh
Jun 24 15:02:51 <androidguru_> How to extend it and add to a listview
Jun 24 15:03:57 <CursedMonkey> ListView testlist = new ListView(this);
Jun 24 15:03:57 <CursedMonkey> String items[] = { "All Items", "Google", "Test 1",
Jun 24 15:03:57 <CursedMonkey> 				"Test 2", "Test1", "Test2", "Test3", "Test4" };
Jun 24 15:03:57 <CursedMonkey> testlist.setAdapter(new YourAdapter(this, items));
Jun 24 15:04:15 <CursedMonkey> sorry, its on different lines
Jun 24 15:04:46 <vol_> Please use pastebin in the future for > 3 lines
Jun 24 15:04:55 <CursedMonkey> to extend it its probably easiest to create your own class that extends BaseAdapter like: public class IconAdapter extends BaseAdapter{
Jun 24 15:05:06 <CursedMonkey> vol_: ok
Jun 24 15:05:21 <androidguru_> ok
Jun 24 15:06:43 <vol_> thanks
Jun 24 15:32:24 <mmjack> Is there any way to typecast a class with X, Y, Z into a set of verts that openGL understands like you could in C++ or Do I have to convert it to a float[] and then to a floatbuffer?
Jun 24 15:34:50 <zinx> using a class with x,y,z is very inefficient in java
Jun 24 15:35:02 <zinx> so you should probably have it in a float[] to begin with
Jun 24 15:35:38 <CursedMonkey> im not sure if this is what your looking for, but there is a Matrix class under android.opengl.Matrix
Jun 24 15:36:03 <mmjack> I'm just doing this as a test
Jun 24 15:36:12 <mmjack> I'm gohna optimize it later
Jun 24 15:36:20 <mmjack> I just want every vertex in a BSP rendering
Jun 24 16:48:35 <plediii_> where do you guys host your projects?
Jun 24 16:51:04 <vol_> dreamhost webhosting
Jun 24 16:51:08 <vol_> code.google.com works too
Jun 24 16:51:53 <Paperino> someone using accelerometer data here?
Jun 24 16:52:23 <vol_> yes, I'm using all of it
Jun 24 16:52:24 <vol_> from everyone
Jun 24 16:52:30 <vol_> don't move your phone please
Jun 24 16:52:44 <Paperino> :-)
Jun 24 16:53:11 <blau-mikeDG> any ideas whats wrong with 	List<ResolveInfo> ri = pm.queryIntentActivities(new Intent(Intent.ACTION_BOOT_COMPLETED), PackageManager.MATCH_DEFAULT_ONLY);
Jun 24 16:53:24 <Paperino> I don't understand why vector module is greater than 9.80665...
Jun 24 16:53:25 <blau-mikeDG> im not getting anything back, ri.size is 0
Jun 24 16:57:46 <blau-mikeDG> doh sohuld be broadcast recievers dur
Jun 24 17:07:46 <meanburrito920_> does anyone know an easy way to convert a string into a Uri?
Jun 24 17:08:00 <blau-mikeDG> new Uri(string);?
Jun 24 17:08:07 <blau-mikeDG> doesnt work?
Jun 24 17:09:20 <meanburrito920_> nope
Jun 24 17:09:27 <meanburrito920_> Uri cant be instantiated
Jun 24 17:09:43 <KNY> Uri.parse()
Jun 24 17:09:55 <blau-mikeDG> Uri.parse
Jun 24 17:10:00 <KNY> too slow, blau-mikeDG :)
Jun 24 17:10:01 <blau-mikeDG> knew it was something simple
Jun 24 17:10:56 <meanburrito920_> thanks
Jun 24 17:13:22 <Paperino> I'm leaving now, cu.
Jun 24 17:15:03 <meanburrito920_> strange. I used the ImageView .setImageURI method but when it goes to display it claims bad bitmap uri
Jun 24 17:15:10 <meanburrito920_> does the uri have to point to a bitmap?
Jun 24 17:15:18 <meanburrito920_> should I load the image as a drawable first?
Jun 24 17:15:32 <blau-mikeDG> are you doing like file://dedehwekj/diwe
Jun 24 17:15:34 <blau-mikeDG> what is the actual uri
Jun 24 17:17:05 <meanburrito920_> the uri is http://<domain>/<path>/<filename>.jpg
Jun 24 17:19:45 <blau-mikeDG> 06-24 13:19:31.358: DEBUG/XXX(7544): java.lang.SecurityException: Permission Denial: attempt to change component state from pid=7544, uid=10064, package uid=10038
Jun 24 17:19:47 <blau-mikeDG> hrmmm :(
Jun 24 17:50:38 <meanburrito920_> hm. ell I got the Uri thing all working, thanks everyone. Now a new issue: I have all the URLs for my images in a database. am using a cursor to display other info about the images in a RelativeLayout. I want to hook up my images to the cursor. is there a simple way to do this?
Jun 24 17:53:42 <KNY> SimpleCursorAdapter.ViewBinder would be the easiest way
Jun 24 17:55:03 <sammyF> KNY: you're american, right?
Jun 24 17:55:12 <KNY> sammyF, yes sir
Jun 24 17:55:27 <sammyF> KNY: you know, with my name, I could also be female
Jun 24 17:55:29 <sammyF> lol
Jun 24 17:55:41 <KNY> sam?
Jun 24 17:55:55 <meanburrito920_> KNY: can you please elaborate? I acutally was just looking at those docs when I saw your reply but I'm a bit confused as to what would be involved
Jun 24 17:56:00 <sammyF> samANTA ... could have been. it's not, I can reassure you
Jun 24 17:56:22 <sammyF> anyway, need your american experience on something. mind if I pm you?
Jun 24 17:56:35 <KNY> sammyF, go for it
Jun 24 17:57:07 <KNY> meanburrito920_, just create an instance of viewbinder and start debugging through :) It's pretty straightforward
Jun 24 18:01:14 <[OpenSys]> hello, exist any application to sync the contacts with microsoft activesync ?
Jun 24 18:06:46 <famast> With the new release, can android record audio to an OutputStream?
Jun 24 18:14:03 <KNY> famast, I believe it has always supported that
Jun 24 18:14:15 <famast> it goes to a file
Jun 24 18:14:46 <famast> i could try reading the file, but its probably a little messy
Jun 24 18:14:49 <KNY> oh I see what you mean.
Jun 24 18:14:54 <KNY> yeah, that's how sipdroid does it
Jun 24 18:15:14 <famast> ok thanks
Jun 24 18:15:18 <KNY> they essentially run a `tail -f` on the recording file, IIRC
Jun 24 18:15:24 <famast> pleasent
Jun 24 18:15:49 <KNY> yeah it's pretty messy stuff
Jun 24 18:20:04 <famast> i noticed sipdroid says the voip will only work over the wireless lan. Tmobile blocking a port or something more sophisticated then that?
Jun 24 18:31:23 <yacc> Wondering, any reason why ArrayAdapter is claiming not to find my resource?
Jun 24 18:33:44 <yacc> http://pastebin.com/d30557c28
Jun 24 18:36:18 <KNY> yacc, are you importing the wrong R?
Jun 24 18:36:32 <KNY> did you import android.R instead of your.package.here.R ?
Jun 24 18:37:59 <jasta> hmm
Jun 24 18:38:00 <KNY> yacc, also, do not cross-post questions between channels
Jun 24 18:38:27 <jasta> hmm, checked state is not shown in hierarchyviewer :(
Jun 24 18:41:47 <yacc> KNY, well, I did not import android.R
Jun 24 18:42:04 <KNY> did it get automatically imported?
Jun 24 18:42:12 <yacc> KNY, if you look at the paste, you'll notice that the id matches.
Jun 24 18:42:23 <yacc> KNY, yes, automatically imported as it's in the same package.
Jun 24 18:42:52 <KNY> yacc, oh right, it's looking for a layout, not an ID, no?
Jun 24 18:43:21 <yacc> So I need to give the ArrayAdapter the layout and not the id of the textview?
Jun 24 18:43:33 <KNY> check the docs
Jun 24 18:44:09 <pfritzsc> hey, would anyone know why cursor.moveToPosition(pos)  might not work? it's breaking my program, though I know the position it's trying to access is there.. http://pastebin.ca/1472980 is the log if it helps @_@
Jun 24 18:44:18 <KNY> it depends on which form of the constructor you're using, IIRC
Jun 24 18:44:48 <KNY> pfritzsc, what is cursor.getCount()?
Jun 24 18:45:03 <pfritzsc> 2
Jun 24 18:45:12 <pfritzsc> 3* typo
Jun 24 18:45:46 <yacc> KNY, right it's a layout id.
Jun 24 18:45:46 <KNY> well, you're trying to go to position 19 of a possible 3
Jun 24 18:46:00 <KNY> yacc, so you need R.layout.layout-id
Jun 24 18:46:06 <pfritzsc> it's a larger db of may files; the uri's are content://media/external/video/media/17, 18, 19
Jun 24 18:46:10 <pfritzsc> many files*
Jun 24 18:46:24 <pfritzsc> does that make a difference?
Jun 24 18:47:00 <pfritzsc> hrm. stupid question, in retrospect, i'm thinking, lol.
Jun 24 18:47:29 <KNY> haha
Jun 24 18:47:42 <pfritzsc> <_< lol
Jun 24 18:47:55 <pfritzsc> i guess i need to make the cursor access everything, then
Jun 24 18:58:22 <pfritzsc> ah. hooray for stupid mistakes! thanks KNY
Jun 24 18:58:30 <KNY> no problem
Jun 24 19:01:35 <CursedMonkey> For I'm using android.graphics.Region, and im want the op function to combine two Regions. Which Region.Op parameter should i use? INTERSECT or UNION?
Jun 24 19:02:13 <vol_> union
Jun 24 19:02:18 <vol_> if you want the sum of both of them
Jun 24 19:02:25 <vol_> intersect will only give you where both regions are intersecting
Jun 24 19:02:33 <CursedMonkey> o ok
Jun 24 19:02:34 <CursedMonkey> thanks
Jun 24 19:03:05 <vol_> toodles.
Jun 24 19:05:49 <meanburrito920_> For some reason the scrolling on my RelativeLayout is extremely slow. is there a memory profiler for android i could use?
Jun 24 19:07:54 <KNY> ddms
Jun 24 19:11:46 <rohan> is the android dev plugin compatible with eclipse 3.5 galileo?
Jun 24 19:11:53 <meanburrito920_> KNY: how do ou work with ddms from eclipse?
Jun 24 19:12:08 <KNY> `ddms`
Jun 24 19:12:19 <KNY> rohan, do not cross-post questions between channels.
Jun 24 19:12:28 <Tianon> meanburrito920_: just switch to the DDMS perspective
Jun 24 19:12:48 <KNY> Tianon, it doesn't expose a lot of the functionality from within eclipse
Jun 24 19:13:00 <rohan> KNY: why, are #android and #android-dev mirrored to each other?
Jun 24 19:13:20 <Tianon> right, but it answers his question :)
Jun 24 19:13:35 <KNY> rohan, no?
Jun 24 19:13:48 <KNY> Tianon, does it offer memory profiling?
Jun 24 19:14:05 <rohan> KNY: then how do i ensure that people in both #android and #android-dev read my question?
Jun 24 19:14:25 <Tianon> KNY: I wouldn't know, really, I just know how to get to it :P
Jun 24 19:14:30 <KNY> rohan, you don't. You ask in the channel that's more appropriate.
Jun 24 19:15:06 <sammyF> and in this case, it's this one
Jun 24 19:15:53 <rohan> ok, my bad then.
Jun 24 19:16:18 <rohan> so, anyone know whether the plugin works with eclipse 3.5?
Jun 24 19:16:31 <KNY> I would guess that it does. Try it and see.
Jun 24 19:17:05 <doc_savage> rohan: I think it's only 3.4, at least it didn't work in 3.5 in F10 for me a month or 2 ago, and I remember reading then it stated 3.4, which is what I'm using now
Jun 24 19:17:06 <sammyF> rohan: I'm using 3.4.2 myself, but I think someone tried it with 3.5 and had sometroubles
Jun 24 19:17:23 <sammyF> (okay ... it was doc_savage;)
Jun 24 19:17:32 <doc_savage> :D lool
Jun 24 19:18:39 <rohan> oh ok.. thanks.. i won't rush to download 3.5 then.
Jun 24 19:28:03 <famast> has anyone mastered this sipdroid
Jun 24 19:28:18 <famast> i can't for the life of me get it to dial
Jun 24 19:30:56 <meanburrito920_> does anyone know how i could locally cache images that i grab over http?
Jun 24 19:31:17 <jasta> hmm.
Jun 24 19:32:05 <meanburrito920_> I found that it was causing my scrolling to slow down to pitiful levels because it was trying to re-load the image whenever it came back into view
Jun 24 19:32:44 <jasta> romainguy: you around?
Jun 24 19:32:56 <romainguy> yes?
Jun 24 19:33:07 <jasta> i'm confused by the code in CheckedTextView#setItemChecked.
Jun 24 19:33:34 <jasta> it seems that if the item was previously checked, setItemChecked(position, true) would set it to false?
Jun 24 19:33:47 <jasta> that cant possibly be the intended behaviour?
Jun 24 19:33:57 <romainguy> I don't see any method called setItemChecked in CheckedTextView
Jun 24 19:34:05 <jasta> err ListView i meant
Jun 24 19:34:15 <jasta> sorry
Jun 24 19:34:40 <romainguy> yeah looks like a bug
Jun 24 19:34:44 <romainguy> it toggles instead of setting
Jun 24 19:34:58 <jasta> right, should i just try to fix it?
Jun 24 19:35:24 <romainguy> you can try and hope that it's not going to break anything relying on this behavior :p
Jun 24 19:35:37 <jasta> maybe i'll fix it in javadoc :)
Jun 24 19:36:13 <jasta> actually this method is hardly ever used.  should be easy to prove that at least nothing in android will break.  maybe third party apps could
Jun 24 19:37:07 <romainguy> yeah I see 10 usages
Jun 24 19:38:05 <KNY> I'm loading a bunch of JSON data and each one represents a different model (not all unique, but not all the same type). How can I display these in a listview with each one having the layout which best fits it?
Jun 24 19:38:49 <KNY> for example, let's pretend this was a call log-type system where I was showing SMS and call logs in a unified list (but they would each be represented differently)
Jun 24 19:38:53 <jasta> romainguy: a quick glance suggests that none of these usages would be affected.  hmml
Jun 24 19:38:56 <jasta> at least i'll file a bug.
Jun 24 19:39:23 <jasta> this actually tripped me up becuse i wasnt first checking if an item was checked before i just force it to true.
Jun 24 19:39:40 <jasta> but code running previously might have already also set it to true
Jun 24 19:39:49 <jasta> very confusing behaviour :)
Jun 24 19:39:52 <romainguy> agreed
Jun 24 19:39:54 <romainguy> should be fixed
Jun 24 19:40:00 <romainguy> not the javadoc fixed
Jun 24 19:40:03 <romainguy> because the API would not make sense
Jun 24 19:40:14 <jasta> right, i'll fix it.
Jun 24 19:40:17 <romainguy> thanks
Jun 24 19:40:23 <romainguy> I'll integrate the change in donut manually
Jun 24 19:40:40 <romainguy> speaking of fixes, I finally fixed RelativeLayout so that it allows its children to be declared in any order
Jun 24 19:40:47 <KNY> yay
Jun 24 19:40:48 <romainguy> much easier to use this way :)
Jun 24 19:41:53 <romainguy> (except that right now half of the relativelayouts in the system are broken :)
Jun 24 19:42:10 <KNY> it breaks existing ones?
Jun 24 19:42:25 <romainguy> KNY: because of a bug I introduced
Jun 24 19:42:30 <KNY> heh
Jun 24 19:43:08 <KNY> what is the difference between PhoneNumberUtils.PAUSE and WAIT? (other than one is a , and the other a ;
Jun 24 19:45:10 <jasta> telephony weirdness
Jun 24 19:45:52 <KNY> jasta, what is the difference when they're used, though?
Jun 24 19:46:23 <romainguy> oh wait
Jun 24 19:46:30 <romainguy> jasta, the code in setItemChecked is correct
Jun 24 19:46:52 <jasta> ...is it?
Jun 24 19:47:03 <romainguy> it's for the case CHOIDE_MODE_SINGLE
Jun 24 19:47:13 <romainguy> it sets the new position and unsets the previous position
Jun 24 19:47:20 <romainguy> this is achieved by the call to mCheckStates.clear()
Jun 24 19:47:35 <jasta> it does so conditionally, based on the previous set value.
Jun 24 19:47:47 <jasta> if you run setItemChecked(pos, true); twice, it will be set to false.
Jun 24 19:47:52 <romainguy> yes
Jun 24 19:47:57 <romainguy> there is a bug
Jun 24 19:48:00 <jasta> in effect, nothing will be selected
Jun 24 19:48:06 <jasta> but that makes no sense given the API
Jun 24 19:48:37 <romainguy> the bug is that mCheckStates.clear() should be in the if (!oldValue)
Jun 24 19:48:42 <jasta> exactly
Jun 24 19:48:58 <romainguy> from our discussion earlier I thought it was always toggling
Jun 24 19:48:59 <jasta> well actually not quite
Jun 24 19:49:09 <jasta> because if setItemChecked(pos, false) was used, it should still clear.
Jun 24 19:49:11 <jasta> even if it was previously true
Jun 24 19:49:21 <romainguy> oh yeah right
Jun 24 19:49:26 <jasta> the bug is that it doesnt look at `value' at all, and it must.
Jun 24 19:50:01 <jasta> it looks like someone just thought they were being clever :)
Jun 24 19:50:26 <jasta> because obviously the easiest path is to do mCheckStates.clear(); if (value) mCheckStates.put(position, true);
Jun 24 19:50:31 <unix_lappy> getting ReaderException: Index was outside the bounds of the array. with zxing and QRCodeReader
Jun 24 19:50:35 <unix_lappy> any ideas?
Jun 24 19:50:35 <jasta> and, arguably, the most efficient.
Jun 24 19:51:11 <romainguy> jasta: yep
Jun 24 19:51:53 <jasta> clear() has a sexy implementation in SparseArray hehe
Jun 24 19:51:55 <jasta> just looked at it
Jun 24 19:52:20 <romainguy> yeah :)
Jun 24 19:52:27 <yacc> How do I specify android:dividerHeight in the XML?
Jun 24 19:52:37 <yacc> ="0" => complains about the wrong type
Jun 24 19:52:42 <romainguy> 0dip
Jun 24 19:52:43 <jasta> yacc: 0px
Jun 24 19:52:45 <yacc> =0 => complains about malformed XML?
Jun 24 19:52:58 <jasta> or 0dip, if you prefer :)
Jun 24 19:53:09 <yacc> dip?
Jun 24 19:53:19 <jasta> device-independent pixel.  it is scaled by the devices current DPI
Jun 24 19:53:22 <romainguy> jasta: it's a good habit to have
Jun 24 19:53:32 <jasta> when the value is 0, of course it yields the same value as pixel
Jun 24 19:53:34 <jasta> or any other unit
Jun 24 19:53:45 <jasta> but yes, you should never use px normally
Jun 24 19:53:53 <unix_lappy> halp?
Jun 24 19:53:58 <KNY> jasta, not true. 0C != 0F ;-)
Jun 24 19:54:09 <unix_lappy> been googling for a while now.
Jun 24 19:54:09 <yacc> jasta, so how does that dpi work? which resolution does it assume?
Jun 24 19:54:12 <jasta> KNY: cute, but i meant any unit android supports :)
Jun 24 19:54:27 <jasta> yacc: 1dpi === 1px for the G1, calibrated at 160dpi
Jun 24 19:54:49 <jasta> if the DPI goes up, 1dpi will be greater than 1px.
Jun 24 19:54:59 <jasta> err, s/dpi/dip/
Jun 24 19:55:19 <jasta> also note that dp is a synonym for dip
Jun 24 19:55:27 <zinx> KNY: -40C = -40F!
Jun 24 19:55:35 <_annex_> hi all, when using the Gallery widget, what options do I have to "slow" down the fling speed?
Jun 24 19:55:47 <romainguy> _annex_: none
Jun 24 19:55:48 <jasta> move your finger slower? :)
Jun 24 19:55:57 <_annex_> doh :(
Jun 24 19:56:02 <_annex_> it flings way too fast
Jun 24 19:56:15 <_annex_> maybe overload the draw()?
Jun 24 19:56:34 <yacc> jasta, guess no devices that are compatible with G3 fine fax resolution will ever come? (204x196 dpi) Or does Android somehow handle different resolutions for horizontal versus vertical?
Jun 24 19:56:36 <romainguy> _annex_: won't work
Jun 24 19:57:23 <yacc> Anyway, dividerHeight did not do what I want, I'm currently getting these thin lines between textviews in my ListView, ...
Jun 24 19:57:28 <yacc> How do I get rid of them?
Jun 24 19:57:40 <_annex_> romainguy, are there any other builtin widgets to solve this or do I have to make my own?
Jun 24 19:57:50 <romainguy> _annex_: make your own
Jun 24 19:58:00 <kRutOn> animation going too fast.. good problem to have
Jun 24 19:58:04 <romainguy> yacc: android:divider="@null"
Jun 24 19:58:07 <KNY> yacc, set the divider to @null
Jun 24 19:58:11 <_annex_> romainguy, ok thanks
Jun 24 19:58:11 <KNY> damn you, romainguy :)
Jun 24 19:58:44 <_annex_> kRutOn: yes and no, people tend to "swipe" their phone with a ferocity
Jun 24 19:58:53 <KNY> _annex_, then they'll learn
Jun 24 19:59:04 <srm> is there a special meaning of @ in front of null? some kind of annotation?
Jun 24 19:59:10 <_annex_> KNY, thats not very user friendly
Jun 24 19:59:23 <_annex_> if I can make my app easier for the user to use, then I'll go that route
Jun 24 19:59:34 <kRutOn> _annex_: Yes, but it's much easier to solve than the opposite problem.
Jun 24 19:59:57 <KNY> _annex_, how long until you get a user complaining that it scrolls too slowly?
Jun 24 20:00:10 <_annex_> kRutOn: true, but half the fun is solving it your own way, right? :)
Jun 24 20:00:34 <yacc> android:layout_gravity="right" would make my TextView right-justify?
Jun 24 20:01:12 <_annex_> KNY: I just think it would have been nice if Gallery came with a param to change the speed of the motion
Jun 24 20:01:25 <romainguy> yacc: no, it will move the TextView to the right within its container
Jun 24 20:01:36 <romainguy> to right-justify the text inside the TextView you need to use android:gravity="right"
Jun 24 20:01:56 <romainguy> _annex_: the speed is based on the actual velocity of your finger in pixels per second
Jun 24 20:02:01 <yacc> romainguy, that's what I want, in this case, but thx ;)
Jun 24 20:02:09 <romainguy> and on the coefficient of friction of idontrememberwhat on idontrememberwhat
Jun 24 20:02:13 <romainguy> it was something like leather on ice
Jun 24 20:02:37 <_annex_> romainguy: yes, but being able to set that coefficient would be perfect, instead of a fixed value
Jun 24 20:02:44 <romainguy> no
Jun 24 20:03:16 <_annex_> ... why?
Jun 24 20:03:26 <srm> can someone explaing this "@null" syntax to me? is this a general annotation?
Jun 24 20:03:30 <_annex_> some apps don't want to "fly" through the Gallery as it is by default
Jun 24 20:03:42 <srm> or only related to android:divider?
Jun 24 20:03:53 <_annex_> for example, the YouTube app is ridiculous, you have to move your finger so slow to go through the Gallery at the top
Jun 24 20:03:54 <romainguy> _annex_: because we want scrolling to be consistent
Jun 24 20:04:08 <romainguy> and in this case the solution is to fix the Gallery widget
Jun 24 20:04:12 <romainguy> to not scroll that fast
Jun 24 20:04:18 <KNY> srm, @null is a special token to indicate null in XML
Jun 24 20:04:19 <romainguy> not to let apps scroll at different speeds
Jun 24 20:04:49 <_annex_> romainguy: I see, I personally think that's a poor design choice, but I understand the philosophy behind it
Jun 24 20:04:56 <srm> KNY: thank you :)
Jun 24 20:05:07 <romainguy> _annex_: yeah well, everything we do is a poor design choice to someone :)
Jun 24 20:05:26 <herriojr> and that's why you can make your own custom view ;)
Jun 24 20:05:42 <_annex_> yup
Jun 24 20:08:14 <unix_lappy> hmm, nararowed it down to getDataBlocks
Jun 24 20:08:49 <_annex_> i guess I could just take the Gallery code and modify that single coefficient variable
Jun 24 20:09:08 <_annex_> i guess I could just take the Gallery code and modify that single coefficient variable
Jun 24 20:09:17 <digitalspaghetti> hey guys, i;m trying to improve a custom view class i wrote by putting into XML.  I'm looking at the LabelView example and in the comments it references a file called SDK/assets/res/any/classes.xml
Jun 24 20:09:31 <digitalspaghetti> for defining custom namespace tags.. but the file seems to be missing :(
Jun 24 20:09:50 <digitalspaghetti> any ideas where i can a) find it or b) find docs on it?
Jun 24 20:10:22 <romainguy> _annex_: that variable is not defined in Gallery
Jun 24 20:10:43 <romainguy> it comes from the ViewConfiguration, used in Scroller, used in Gallery
Jun 24 20:11:44 <_annex_> ahh thanks
Jun 24 20:15:25 <dkoh> hi, I've got a quick question.  Does anyone know if there's a way to release two apps together in the app store?  In other words, can I write an auxilary app, package it up, and have other devs write code using it and release it as a dependency to their app?
Jun 24 20:15:36 <meanburrito920_> is it possible to add an onTouchEvent handler to an ImageView class without making a new class with the method overwritten?
Jun 24 20:15:45 <KNY> dkoh, no dependency support
Jun 24 20:16:12 <digitalspaghetti> romainguy: ? ^^  I'm trying to define a custom namespace for a View, but the example namespace XML seems to be missing from the APISamples :(
Jun 24 20:16:18 <yacc> How to make a ListView unclickable? (do I need to create the textviews disabled?)
Jun 24 20:16:24 <meanburrito920_> or do I have to just make a new class... :(
Jun 24 20:16:46 <romainguy> digitalspaghetti: ?
Jun 24 20:16:50 <dkoh> KNY: I thought that might be the case, thanks for confirming.
Jun 24 20:17:06 <unix_lappy> ok, tested my image with this and it works fine.
Jun 24 20:17:08 <unix_lappy> http://zxing.org/w/decode.jspx
Jun 24 20:17:27 <digitalspaghetti> classes.xml file as in the LabelView example
Jun 24 20:17:34 <unix_lappy> but still getting a readerexception inside decoder.DataBlock.getDataBlocks
Jun 24 20:17:42 <digitalspaghetti> for example you have an app:text namespace
Jun 24 20:17:59 <herriojr> digitalspaghetti: yeah, I've done it, just a sec
Jun 24 20:18:15 <digitalspaghetti> but i cannot find the file at all that allows the custom xmlns
Jun 24 20:18:25 <herriojr> you don't need a file
Jun 24 20:18:29 <romainguy> digitalspaghetti: what file are you talking about?
Jun 24 20:18:38 <romainguy> and there's no file needed to declare a custom XML namespace
Jun 24 20:19:11 <romainguy> it's defined right in the XML file:
Jun 24 20:19:12 <romainguy> xmlns:app="http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/com.example.android.apis"
Jun 24 20:20:47 <yacc> android:clickable="false" did not help :(
Jun 24 20:20:58 <herriojr> yacc: what are you trying to do?
Jun 24 20:21:36 <yacc> herriojr, I'm trying to use a ListView just for displaying a scrollable list of completely inert textviews, ...
Jun 24 20:22:09 <yacc> Now, when I click on one of the textviews, the stupid thing reacts to the click by highlighting itself in yellow-orange.
Jun 24 20:22:19 <romainguy> I have a bug open for that
Jun 24 20:22:23 <romainguy> won't be fixed before Eclair
Jun 24 20:22:33 <yacc> longClickable="false"?
Jun 24 20:22:34 <romainguy> in the meantime you can just set a transparent selector on the list
Jun 24 20:22:36 <romainguy> and you're done
Jun 24 20:22:37 <herriojr> yacc: set the list_selector to a single image
Jun 24 20:22:45 <yacc> list_selector?
Jun 24 20:22:50 <romainguy> although that won't help for trackball navigation
Jun 24 20:22:52 <romainguy> so forget that
Jun 24 20:22:59 <yacc> android:list_selector="@null"?
Jun 24 20:23:08 <romainguy> but you can  make your own list selector with no long press animation
Jun 24 20:23:25 <herriojr> yacc: I'll send an example they use for a button in the android code
Jun 24 20:23:44 <herriojr> it's what I send to my artists when I keep telling them to make all the states and they still never do
Jun 24 20:24:44 <meanburrito920_> How would i get the phone's phone number?
Jun 24 20:25:23 <yacc> meanburrito920_, you cannot rely on that, it seems that not all SIMs provide that information gem ;)
Jun 24 20:25:29 <herriojr> yacc: here's what a button uses as its selector: http://pastebin.ca/1473168
Jun 24 20:25:48 <digitalspaghetti> sorry had to go afk for a sec there when you were replying to me guys
Jun 24 20:25:48 <herriojr> it essentially just says what image to use as the background in what state
Jun 24 20:26:12 <herriojr> it's essentially the same thing for a list selector
Jun 24 20:26:29 <yacc> herriojr, so where in the resources do I put such things?
Jun 24 20:26:51 <herriojr> color or drawables is where they are stuck in android code
Jun 24 20:26:59 <herriojr> I usually try to follow their conventions
Jun 24 20:27:22 <herriojr> just because I like consistency
Jun 24 20:27:37 <yacc> And how do I reference them? Stick an id on the selector and reference it in list_selector of the ListView?
Jun 24 20:28:05 <herriojr> so when you set the background, and your selector is in the color folder, just do color/list_selector.xml
Jun 24 20:28:17 <herriojr> or rather @color/list_selector.xml
Jun 24 20:28:39 <herriojr> since I'm assuming you are doing it in the layout
Jun 24 20:29:00 <romainguy> you'd be better off putting it in drawable/
Jun 24 20:29:36 <herriojr> android:listSelector="@drawable/list_selector.xml
Jun 24 20:29:38 <herriojr> "
Jun 24 20:30:09 <herriojr> romainguy: yeah, the location changes depending on what android project you're looking at, but I've narrowed it down to color or drawable
Jun 24 20:30:25 <herriojr> but for future reference, I'll just stick it in drawable
Jun 24 20:32:39 <digitalspaghetti> romainguy: ok, so i've pointed my xmlns:foo="http://schemas.android.com/apk/res/com.example.customview" ERROR No resource identifier found for attribute 'src' in package com.example.customview
Jun 24 20:33:05 <romainguy> have you declared an src attribute?
Jun 24 20:33:26 <digitalspaghetti> no, this is what i was asking, where do i define this?
Jun 24 20:33:39 <romainguy> look for attrs.xml in the ApiDemos
Jun 24 20:34:38 <digitalspaghetti> right, thats what I was looking for - the example was talking about a classes.xml file
Jun 24 20:34:48 <herriojr> digitalspaghetti: <declare-styleable name="ViewName"> <attr name="src" format="string"/></declare-styleable>
Jun 24 20:36:42 <yacc> Ok, how can it be, I've uploaded a new version of my "app" to the market, cyrket already shows the new version, but my phone installs an old version???
Jun 24 20:37:00 <yacc> Despite showing the new description of the app?
Jun 24 20:37:01 <herriojr> yacc: luck?
Jun 24 20:37:07 <herriojr> ;)
Jun 24 20:37:10 <digitalspaghetti> herriojr, romainguy thanks :)
Jun 24 20:38:02 <herriojr> digitalspaghetti: are you handling the xml defined attributes on instantiation of the view?
Jun 24 20:38:02 <meanburrito920_> yacc, but somehow it can be gotten: it shows up in the phone settings...
Jun 24 20:38:48 <yacc> meanburrito920_, ?
Jun 24 20:38:50 <herriojr> digitalspaghetti: I'm guessing you are if you're following the tutorial
Jun 24 20:38:55 <KNY> yacc, cache?
Jun 24 20:39:20 <yacc> KNY, so why does it show the new description already?
Jun 24 20:39:38 <digitalspaghetti> herriojr: yea, basically i have a rather badly written custom view that is a image scrolling view for loading larger images in and being able to scroll around
Jun 24 20:39:46 <digitalspaghetti> so i'm trying to clean it up and make it XML based
Jun 24 20:39:49 <KNY> yacc, maybe you're going through a proxy server for the download? I don't know, just relax and wait a minute :)
Jun 24 20:40:18 <digitalspaghetti> should the format="reference" if I'm wanting to load a @drawable, or is a string type of?
Jun 24 20:40:21 <digitalspaghetti> ok?
Jun 24 20:40:34 <yacc> KNY, so why does it not cache the description?
Jun 24 20:40:58 <KNY> yacc, I don't know, I didn't implement the server.
Jun 24 20:41:57 <yacc> KNY, well, I can relax, as this is a rather small irrelevant app, but what if it was a paid app? I change the description to explain the newest coolest features, and the market delivers the old one without the features, but with a couple of old bugs?
Jun 24 20:42:28 <KNY> yacc, b.android.com
Jun 24 20:48:15 <meanburrito920_> yacc, referring to the phone's number question
Jun 24 20:49:01 <meanburrito920_> its back a ways. I was wondering the best way to get a phone's number
Jun 24 20:52:14 <yacc> meanburrito920_, yeah, it shows up in the configuration, but not for all SIMs. There are SIMs where it does not show up ;)
Jun 24 20:52:42 <meanburrito920_> that makes me sad :(
Jun 24 20:53:03 <meanburrito920_> but what is it for configs where it does show up?
Jun 24 20:53:17 <yacc> meanburrito920_, no idea ;)
Jun 24 20:54:12 <yacc> meanburrito920_, http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/f6aeef55f1e8d2c7
Jun 24 20:55:55 <meanburrito920_> how about making RelativeLayouts scrollable?
Jun 24 20:57:05 <meanburrito920_> :)
Jun 24 20:57:36 <unix_lappy> is there a channel for ZebraCrossing?
Jun 24 20:58:07 <yacc> meanburrito920_, android.telephony.TelephonyManager.getLine1Number()
Jun 24 20:58:16 <yacc> meanburrito920_, http://d.android.com/reference/android/telephony/TelephonyManager.html
Jun 24 20:58:36 <yacc> meanburrito920_, the question is what permissions you need to call that method, ...
Jun 24 20:59:18 <yacc> meanburrito920_, READ_PHONE_STATE
Jun 24 20:59:30 <meanburrito920_> you are amazing
Jun 24 21:00:13 <yacc> meanburrito920_, no, just a decade training in the use of the google text entry box.
Jun 24 21:00:39 <yacc> meanburrito920_, OTOH, I do ask googleable things from time to time too, because perhaps somebody else can figure it out faster than me.
Jun 24 21:01:07 <yacc> Just wondering, did I get this right, there is no way to query if a device is connected via HSPA or not?
Jun 24 21:01:36 <unix_lappy> non-googleable thing of the day ReaderException in the for (int i = shorterBlocksNumDataCodewords; i < max; i++) code block for decoder.DataBlock.getDataBlocks
Jun 24 21:02:08 <unix_lappy> when working with a standard BufferedImageMonochromeBitmapSource on decoding a QRReader
Jun 24 21:06:14 <famast> is it possible to programatically change the call forwarding settings?
Jun 24 21:13:11 <yacc> famast, no
Jun 24 21:13:15 <yacc> famast,
Jun 24 21:13:15 <yacc> Do to security restrictions in Android, third party apps like Locale cannot change call forwarding.
Jun 24 21:19:20 <Poke53281> how accurate is ddms when tracking allocation? i do the tracking but it seems like when i do "get allocations" the list is not big enough and some objects i expect to be listed are not listed. does it list objects which already got garbage collected?
Jun 24 21:27:13 <unix_lappy> hmm, why would the decoder class work for some 2D barcodes but not others.
Jun 24 21:27:14 <unix_lappy> that is troublesom.
Jun 24 21:27:16 <unix_lappy> e
Jun 24 21:27:50 <unix_lappy> both of which the online decoder can decode, but my local decoder.
Jun 24 21:30:56 <meanburrito920_> my CatLog is broken. wht is the command line tool for it?
Jun 24 22:07:22 <sasq> Does anyone here know how to insert a jni library into an apk correctly ?
Jun 24 22:17:43 <raugust> jni?
Jun 24 22:17:53 <raugust> does jni work on dalvik?
Jun 24 22:18:09 <jasta> yes
Jun 24 22:18:19 <jasta> and is being used extensively by android
Jun 24 22:18:20 <raugust> ic.. that's cook
Jun 24 22:18:23 <raugust> cool even
Jun 24 22:19:48 <raugust> hmmm Cursor cursor = getContentResolver().query(People.CONTENT_URI, null, null, null, null); returns a few too many results for me :-)
Jun 24 22:21:46 <sasq> I think I've managed to build it correctly
Jun 24 22:21:54 <sasq> just a pain to get it into a signed apk
Jun 24 22:22:17 <sasq> and also not sure what PATH android looks in when loading librarues
Jun 24 22:26:56 <benh> doc_savage: hey !
Jun 24 22:27:25 <meanburrito920_> does anyone know how to make relativeLayouts scroll?
Jun 24 22:27:25 <benh> doc_savage: the problem with Davlik conversion not working in eclipse was .... the JVM :-)
Jun 24 22:27:41 <benh> doc_savage: switched from IBM JVM 1.5 to Sun Java 6 yesterday, didn't help
Jun 24 22:28:05 <benh> doc_savage: but while installing the android -source-, I saw a mention that building it needed JDK 5, not 6 due to a problem with @override
Jun 24 22:28:38 <benh> doc_savage: that rang a bell, so I switched to JDK 5 and now, projects created from the template in eclipse work too
Jun 24 22:28:47 <benh> doc_savage: probably worth putting in a FAQ somewhere
Jun 24 22:29:47 <raugust> meanburrito maybe wrap it in another layout?
Jun 24 23:05:35 <sasq> yay! "dalvikvm   Added shared lib /data/data/com.ssb.droidsound/lib/libmodplug.so 0x437b550"
Jun 24 23:29:42 <raugust> sasq libmodplug.so ?
Jun 24 23:30:01 <raugust> oldskool .mod tracker music?
Jun 24 23:31:13 <unix_lappy> any ideas on my previous question regarding ZXing and the RequestException on getDataBlocks inside of the decode method?
Jun 24 23:31:45 <unix_lappy> the online decoder is able to decode the application, but not the local client.
Jun 24 23:32:10 <unix_lappy> I'm using a QRDecoder with no "hints"
Jun 24 23:38:51 <unix_lappy>  been googling cumulatively for about an hour now.
Jun 24 23:47:41 <jasta> romainguy: is there any way to detect when the window animation that brought my screen to the foreground is finished?
Jun 24 23:47:54 <jasta> onResume seems to be called sooner than that.
Jun 24 23:48:06 <romainguy> no idea
Jun 24 23:49:06 <svm_invictvs-> So who's working on games in here?
Jun 24 23:49:09 <svm_invictvs-> Android games?
Jun 24 23:51:32 <jasta> ok, nevermind then :)
Jun 24 23:54:17 <chouman82> what is a good way to package some data in the database of an application in the apk?
Jun 24 23:55:16 <jasta> there isn't a good way, because this bloats your apk
Jun 24 23:55:27 <jasta> but you could store it as a raw resource and just read it.
Jun 24 23:56:01 <chouman82> like just csv?
Jun 24 23:56:07 <chouman82> and read it in and insert them
Jun 24 23:58:51 <jasta> well, or sqlite3.
Jun 24 23:58:53 <jasta> its a portable format
Jun 24 23:59:09 <jasta> but at some point the format may change and the engine upgraded on android
Jun 24 23:59:22 <jasta> if you really want to be portable, you'd need to design your own format and initialize though this will be slow
Jun 25 00:04:17 <chouman82> so i can store it as sqlite3 and use the SQLiteDatabaseHelper to read from it?
Jun 25 00:07:07 <meanburrito920_> how can I make a relative layout that doesnt fit in the screen scroll
Jun 25 00:07:08 <meanburrito920_> ?
Jun 25 00:07:30 <herriojr> meanburrito920: can you rephrase that?
Jun 25 00:08:31 <jasta> meanburrito920_: place it insid ea ScrollView
Jun 25 00:09:18 <herriojr> jasta: ah, now I understand what he was asking :)
Jun 25 00:11:03 <unix_lappy> BAH! tried the barcode decoder on a secondary port and it worked!
Jun 25 00:11:08 <unix_lappy> *le sigh*
Jun 25 00:13:21 <meanburrito920_> jasta, i did that and it threw an xml parse error: unbound prefix when I tried to set layout_width="fill_parent"
Jun 25 00:13:32 <meanburrito920_> rather, android:layout_width
Jun 25 00:16:23 <herriojr> meanburrito920: what's the height?
Jun 25 00:16:54 <herriojr> I don't think you can fill the parent on a ScrollView, but it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong
Jun 25 00:17:22 <jasta> herriojr: yes you can
Jun 25 00:17:24 <meanburrito920_> herriojr, well i had to do fill parent because the first time i tried without it, i got a catlog error saying that i needed to specify a layout_width
Jun 25 00:17:27 <jasta> meanburrito920_: then compose XML properly.
Jun 25 00:17:37 <meanburrito920_> i dont know whats wrong though...
Jun 25 00:17:38 <jasta> the problem is that your XML isn't well formed
Jun 25 00:17:43 <jasta> read it -- you'll see.
Jun 25 00:18:22 <meanburrito920_> :) its not that obvious. i checked all the tags, everything is closed, everything is in the proper tags...
Jun 25 00:18:42 <herriojr> jasta: so it properly makes that to not be a circular reference?
Jun 25 00:18:49 <herriojr> that's interesting
Jun 25 00:18:54 <jasta> herriojr: no, its not well formed XML
Jun 25 00:19:07 <jasta> meaning, he probably has some dumb shit like <ScrollView> <Foo /> </LinearLayout>
Jun 25 00:19:16 <jasta> or something like andriod:...
Jun 25 00:19:21 <herriojr> jasta: I understand that portion, I'm just talking about the scrollvew functionality itself
Jun 25 00:19:23 <herriojr> :)
Jun 25 00:19:35 <jasta> oh, ScrollView works by just embedding a view at fill_parent height
Jun 25 00:19:35 <meanburrito920_> jasta, i understand xml. i didnt do that.
Jun 25 00:19:40 <jasta> a single child.
Jun 25 00:19:43 <jasta> meanburrito920_: yes, you did.
Jun 25 00:19:52 <jasta> i trust the XML parser a lot more than i trust you :)
Jun 25 00:20:26 <herriojr> meanburrito920_: can you post your layout?
Jun 25 00:21:13 <meanburrito920_> herriojr, sorta, give me a sec, i git reverted it to an earlier state
Jun 25 00:21:22 <unix_lap1y> ok, maybe i'm doing something wrong? but i looked at the code behind the zxing.org decoder and it's the exact same...
Jun 25 00:21:30 <unix_lap1y> http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?cht=qr&chs=350x350&chl=MECARD%3AN%3Asaldfkj%3BORG%3Aasdlkfj3o%3BTEL%3A209843029384%3BURL%3A9w8fasdf.com%3BEMAIL%3A234098%40gmail.com%3BADR%3A293874297%3BADR%3A293874297+23298379q8n%3BNOTE%3Aasfdkj%3B%3B
Jun 25 00:21:53 <unix_lap1y> maybe i'm doing something extraneous wrong?
Jun 25 00:25:44 <meanburrito920_> jasta, herriojr, http://pastie.org/523699
Jun 25 00:27:25 <KNY> meanburrito920_, you need layout_height on ScrollView as well
Jun 25 00:27:34 <herriojr> meanburrito920_: your xmlns:android is in the wrong tag
Jun 25 00:27:42 <KNY> and you need the xmlns on the ScrollView
Jun 25 00:28:09 <meanburrito920_> herriojr, yeah, i just figured out that
Jun 25 00:28:17 <meanburrito920_> i should have googled it first :)
Jun 25 00:28:28 <KNY> that can be said for a lot of questions in here ;-)
Jun 25 00:28:51 <pfritzsc> yeah but this way you get to sass people for asking dumb questions [people like me!]
Jun 25 00:28:54 <pfritzsc> thus providing entertainment
Jun 25 00:28:56 <pfritzsc> so it's totally ok
Jun 25 00:28:58 <meanburrito920_> exactly
Jun 25 00:29:09 <meanburrito920_> be lazy :P
Jun 25 00:45:27 <meanburrito920_> is there a way to refactor out parts of your xml for use in multiple layouts, eg. i have a lsit view that i want to use in multiple layouts, but in one layout i want it to have a search box above it, and in the other i do not.
Jun 25 00:45:35 <jasta> yes, <include>
Jun 25 00:50:07 <meanburrito920_> awesome, thanks jasta
Jun 25 00:50:45 <meanburrito920_> how would i do the grey bar that surrounds the buttons in the contact editor, etc
Jun 25 00:54:16 <jasta> its just an asset
Jun 25 00:54:19 <jasta> you can copy it out of those apps if you want
Jun 25 01:09:23 <meanburrito920_> jasta, how would i place a text box and a button next to each other in a relative view? I currently use layout_toRightOf but It isnt doing anything
Jun 25 01:18:09 <andChRis> hi there.
Jun 25 01:18:33 <andChRis> cant get my nofification.sond from looping
Jun 25 01:18:38 <andChRis> *sound
Jun 25 01:18:45 <andChRis> any advice?
Jun 25 01:18:58 <andChRis> its flagged for playing once
Jun 25 01:47:00 <hunterp> yo. anyone have any idea what this means??:06-24 18:43:23.514: ERROR/AndroidRuntime(854): java.lang.VerifyError: com.ochosi.lolo.LineActivity
Jun 25 01:47:37 <hunterp> oh nevermind
Jun 25 01:47:50 <hunterp> couldnt find GeoPoint
Jun 25 02:58:50 <_avatar> does anyone have a link to the 565 photoshop dither plugin handy? i can't find it to save my life
Jun 25 02:59:03 <_avatar> and yes, i've asked this before, but i lost it in a format and can't find it in my bookmarks :(
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