**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 17 03:00:01 2012 Oct 17 03:09:09 http://pastebin.com/PDKM9zGS <-- does this use of 'final' result in leaking the Intent object every time view is clicked on? Oct 17 03:10:38 I have a problem w hen I call .show() on my dialog it executes and then executes the next line after .show() before the dialog selections can be made Oct 17 03:10:52 is there a way to wait for the dialog to be submitted/canceled/oked before continuing to the next line Oct 17 03:11:32 no, you need to put that sort of code int the click listeners for the dialog.. Oct 17 03:12:32 mahamoti: here is what i have http://pastebin.com/T29zDvS5 Oct 17 03:12:37 try this: http://pastebin.com/Dgz2CUzi Oct 17 03:13:15 and i'm using the date picker dialog from here http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/controls/pickers.html Oct 17 03:14:10 i assume your question is answered by my paste Oct 17 03:14:59 my dialog doesnt have a builder Oct 17 03:15:33 pico idea is in your dialog set up the logic that executes whatever you need to do from input from the dialog Oct 17 03:15:49 ie in the onclick listener in the dialog, not from outside of the dialog Oct 17 03:15:52 http://pastebin.com/PDKM9zGS <-- does this use of 'final' result in leaking the Intent object every time view is clicked on? Oct 17 03:15:55 and you should be using dialogfragment Oct 17 03:16:16 lasserix: ok ill try that Oct 17 03:17:53 lasserix: so if I wanted to pass a # from dialog to the activity that has .show(), there is no way to do that unless I set a textview or something similar? Oct 17 03:19:09 you can use an interface? Oct 17 03:19:37 although there might be a simpler way, and if you are using dialog fragments you can send information to a particular fragment Oct 17 03:19:50 or you can set some state variable Oct 17 03:20:22 but the idea is in your dialog set an onclicklistener like mahamoti showed which, on clicking, sets the variable up somewhere else Oct 17 03:20:35 k Oct 17 03:20:48 I didnt know that was how it had to be Oct 17 03:21:04 I have an activity class and dialog class so i wasn't sure how to pass between the two Oct 17 03:21:30 from within the click listener you can set any variable outside that is in scope..ie, a class member on your activity, or something you declared above as final Oct 17 03:24:04 what if i make the value static? Oct 17 03:24:29 normal scoping rules apply... Oct 17 03:25:10 i would say it is bad practice but it looks like the best solution for me Oct 17 03:31:23 pretty interesting, about google, moto, and VZ http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/16/3513860/motorola-stock-android-customization-verizon Oct 17 04:03:41 What's the easiest way of changing an icon in the action bar if the action is to chose from 3 catagories? Oct 17 04:15:03 setIcon isn't what you're looking for? Oct 17 04:26:50 Is there a good way set an animation for a menu item Image Oct 17 04:30:36 anyone know of a good way to set an animation for a menu item image. I need to start an animation for a menu item, but only see how to do so with ImageViews Oct 17 04:30:49 what do you mean? Oct 17 04:30:59 how can there be an animation for a menu item? Oct 17 04:32:08 menu item image Oct 17 04:32:28 the image/drawable next to a menu item Oct 17 04:33:56 what do you expect to happen? i've never heard of someone wanting to do that, im not sure if it's possible Oct 17 04:35:11 not sure either. It seemed as if it was online, but I kept seeming to miss something from some of the descriptions Oct 17 04:35:27 setActionDrawable? Oct 17 04:36:34 do you mean setActionView? Oct 17 04:36:40 and how does that help him? Oct 17 04:36:49 yeah Oct 17 04:37:02 I was looking at doing an animation list for the image of the menuitem. Sequence of image cycled by a delay in duration Oct 17 04:37:05 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9731602/animated-icon-for-actionitem Oct 17 04:38:22 ah yes, that's what he wants. Oct 17 04:38:32 excuse my ignorance :o Oct 17 04:38:49 I wish google would just put actionbarsherlock into the compat pack Oct 17 04:39:58 AlexanderZ: I appreciate it, but I found this and am missing something. I created the standard menu xml file, with various items in there. These items have an image, but I wasn't quite sure how to make it an imageview Oct 17 04:40:39 AlexanderZ: that would be officially admitting that they suck at something Oct 17 04:41:24 you need to set an imageview as the actionview for the menu item. and then animate that imageview Oct 17 04:44:38 AlexanderZ: Sorry for being annoying, but that one is new to me and I am having a hard time finding how to do this. I see that I can create an actionViewClass, but it seems as if that is overkill Oct 17 04:45:53 there is a way to do it, someone on a blog posted how to for spinning a refresh icon Oct 17 04:45:59 i dont remember the link sorry Oct 17 04:46:26 the answer to the so question AlexanderZ posted is pretty explicit Oct 17 04:46:28 just do that Oct 17 04:46:36 (I haven't actually done this yet, I am planning on doing it tomorrow) but when you want to animate it, call setActionView(imageView2) on the menuitem, and then call imageView2.startAnimation() Oct 17 04:47:19 I am calling invalidateOptionsMenu / onCreateOptionsMenu when I'm loading different fragments, but the action bar menu actions are stacking Oct 17 04:47:51 menu.clear() Oct 17 04:47:58 thanks Oct 17 04:48:25 onPrepareOptionsMenu might be useful to you as well Oct 17 04:48:33 when is it called? Oct 17 04:48:49 I have a sort by catagory icon i want to change the icon depending on the sort Oct 17 04:49:26 it's in the docs, im not sure Oct 17 04:49:31 oh ok Oct 17 04:49:50 I have 2 questions, for someone myself about those menus: is the only way to get access to the menu in oncreateoptionsmenu? there is no way to get it from an actionbar reference right? and the second question is, how do I change the icon of a menu item? my method of changing it in on prepare/oncreateoptionsmenu, made it switch to the new icon for like 100ms and then switch back to the original Oct 17 04:49:52 i saw it but haven't figured out how to use it, actually I've seen i can change the action bar in the fragment / not in the activity but couldn't get it working Oct 17 04:58:02 ahh cool got it to work with onprepare thanks sampullman Oct 17 04:58:54 now i get to spend a wonderful amount of time pixel perfect editing Oct 17 04:59:28 http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/menus.html#ChangingTheMenu Oct 17 05:03:01 Anyone know why a ListView would slightly scroll up when I display a PopupWindow using IcsListPopupWindow? Oct 17 05:13:20 Somehow I got a java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com.actionbarsherlock.R$styleable crash reported - even though my app includes ABS properly, it is a library in eclipse and it seems to work on two different android versions for me. What could be the cause of this? Oct 17 05:26:50 If I have a listview with different catagories that will end up showing >500 items, should I bother implementing a descending/ascending ordering? Oct 17 05:27:29 The difference being w/o the ordering, I can just swap the icons in the action bar, but w/ I have to set up a popupmenu and have catagories x2 for either up or down Oct 17 05:34:17 AlexanderZ: thanks for the help earlier. Think I almost have it working, however, the animation starts, but doesn't actually animate. It loads the first image, but no subsequent images. Any ideas while I look into it. Oct 17 05:51:42 I have a layout wrapper to be shared by 4 of my activities. What is the best way to implement such a functionality. It is not an actionbar or some standard view elements. Oct 17 05:52:40 put it in one file and use Oct 17 05:53:21 sampullman: and inside the activity add a child to shared_view Oct 17 05:53:21 ? Oct 17 05:53:58 no, it should be like a template used by html frameworks, if you've seen that Oct 17 05:54:09 sampullman: ok got it Oct 17 05:54:15 include can hold other views Oct 17 05:54:30 so the hierarchy is in layouts, not in activities right? Oct 17 05:54:35 main view Oct 17 05:54:35 -include header Oct 17 05:54:35 custom stuff Oct 17 05:54:35 -include footer Oct 17 05:54:35 /main view Oct 17 05:54:46 ok Oct 17 05:54:52 yeah, that would be in xml Oct 17 05:55:31 ty sampullman Any other suggestion like extending activities? Oct 17 05:55:50 well, you can reuse fragments if you're doing it that way Oct 17 05:56:26 one fragment can be used in many activities Oct 17 05:56:31 ok fragments. Looking into both of these. Thanks :) Oct 17 05:56:44 no problem Oct 17 06:16:22 can a pop up window use a menu action as its anchor view? Oct 17 06:34:18 does anyone know how to take advantage of 9 patch scaling when manually loading a resource? Oct 17 06:34:28 as a bitmap, i mean Oct 17 06:36:32 you mean 9patching at run time? Oct 17 06:36:55 yiss Oct 17 06:36:58 How am I supposed to display a contextual menu on a single item in 3.0+? Oct 17 06:37:19 getNinePatchChunk? Oct 17 06:37:37 nm Oct 17 06:38:03 it seems BitmapFactory.decodeStream should do it on a pre compiled 9 patch Oct 17 06:40:53 so I now have a menu item that I was able to add an animation to, however once it is animated, it loses the clickable aspect. Is there a way to fix this? Oct 17 06:45:31 Is there any way to set the anchor of a popup window's show as drop down as an action item in the action bar? Oct 17 06:58:18 when i my app tries to sign a user in via facebook, facebook tells me that an error has occurred. i think it may be due to an incorrect key value. can i, for example, use my key for multiple apps? Oct 17 07:00:06 how can i read source code of ListView? Oct 17 07:00:14 How do you make an action view (for an action item) clickable Oct 17 07:23:55 hi! Oct 17 07:32:22 i'm trying to rebuild a boot.img to turn on ro.debuggable, but when i reboot the device (an sgs2) it just gets stuck in a reboot loop. can anyone help? Oct 17 07:33:04 What is the overflow menu doing when it pops up the menu items in the overflow? Oct 17 07:33:33 what? Oct 17 07:34:04 alch__: #android-root might get you an answer Oct 17 07:34:37 ahh, thanks Oct 17 07:35:35 hi Oct 17 07:35:47 Hiya Oct 17 07:36:13 how do I make any layout which will scale to parent but with proportional size? Oct 17 07:36:41 xml / programming are also preferred Oct 17 07:38:22 for example, my relativeLayout will be rescaled between portrait & landscape Oct 17 07:38:35 the contents in the relativelayout will be all stretched Oct 17 07:38:55 i wish to keep the contents in the original proportion Oct 17 07:39:00 not stretched Oct 17 07:40:47 Is it possible to make a drop down list like the share action provider on the developer website for an action bar item? Oct 17 07:41:51 vanson2012: you can create two separate (xml) layout files, and load one according to the current orientation (in onCreate) Oct 17 07:44:22 http://ScrnSht.com/hdmqux Oct 17 07:44:45 http://ScrnSht.com/gvcurf Oct 17 07:44:57 both portrait & landscape layout are stretched... Oct 17 07:45:24 i just wish to replicate this ->> http://ScrnSht.com/glgrdj Oct 17 07:46:16 (12:41:51 AM) sampullman: vanson2012: you can create two separate (xml) layout files, and load one according to the current orientation (in onCreate) Oct 17 07:47:00 but how about different android devices' resolution? Oct 17 07:47:06 there are more than 10 Oct 17 07:47:19 am i creating more than 10 xmls for 1 single page? Oct 17 07:47:38 the android design guidelines cover this Oct 17 07:48:08 for the love of Oct 17 07:48:10 How can I use action provider to make a drop down menu Oct 17 07:48:11 you may want to look at http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/resources/providing-resources.html#AlternativeResources Oct 17 07:48:25 I can't use navigation mode to do it because I have other icons that need non-drop down functionality Oct 17 07:49:17 damn… ive spent a whole day putting this thing there, and that thing over there Oct 17 07:52:16 i miss iOS's autolayout Oct 17 08:03:35 eventually i took you guys' suggestions Oct 17 08:04:00 and voila i got a better result, and i will temporarily stop landscape layout Oct 17 08:04:20 then i guess i have to invest a few days to make more layouts later on Oct 17 08:11:33 Is there a way that I can find out whether the ActionBar Overflow icon is shown in the ActionBar? I mean it depends on the size of the device, so I need to know if it's visible or not? Oct 17 08:13:45 has anyone here used the twitter api? i can't figure out how to deal with the callback, for which the documentation is almost nonexistent Oct 17 08:21:59 BaseAdapter has a position parameter in getView, which the SimpleCursorAdapter in its newView and bindView methods does not... is there a way to get an equivalent value in it? Oct 17 08:30:32 hi Oct 17 08:30:40 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12930083/how-to-debug-listview-code-when-programming-android Oct 17 08:36:57 bigmeow: answered you Oct 17 08:38:06 getResources().getDisplayMetrics().density always returns 1 1.5 or .75? Oct 17 08:59:04 timroes: still not solved Oct 17 08:59:14 Is there a way to get the y position at the bottom of the action bar? Oct 17 08:59:52 bigmeow: i have no idea, if its possible to download only part of it :) Oct 17 08:59:58 i have always a full copy :) Oct 17 09:00:21 timroes: dude, are you rom developer? Oct 17 09:00:43 nope, but its neither a harm to have a full copy, its not that large Oct 17 09:02:23 hypothetical situation: I query the DB, check the resulting Cursor against the up-to-date dataset I've got, and find one entry that's not in the DB and I insert it. Does the Cursor update to reflect that this value is now in the DB or do I have to re-query? Oct 17 09:06:50 Tee_Pee: your statement is a little low on details, but for most cases you can just call notifyDataSetChanged() or notifyDataSetInvalidated() and it'll reload. Oct 17 09:12:48 Anyone in here using in-app billing? I'm considering using it for a "upgrade free app to full version" strategy, but it seems awfully complicated. Oct 17 09:18:49 just redirect them to the play store for the full version? Oct 17 09:20:23 Shit, finally I understand the error of my ways. Oct 17 09:21:36 Please share? Oct 17 09:22:34 I've spent hours trying to figure out how to cache images via a ContentProvider and a SQLite database, because the android official documentation told me that a contentprovider is the right way to do it for gallery applications Oct 17 09:23:33 and I've set up the content provider, the database, and was helplessly stuck on the SimpleCursorAdapter... turns out I was going about it all wrong, trying to cache and display images in parallel, rather than sequentially. Oct 17 09:24:23 dun dun dun! Oct 17 09:24:27 good job Oct 17 09:24:50 seriousily development programming is like a game of chutes and latters ;) Oct 17 09:25:18 lasserix: I don't think you learn much playing chutes and ladders Oct 17 09:26:09 ha yeah not what it teaches you as much as the way it progresses Oct 17 09:26:40 lasserix: toe Oct 17 09:26:40 Yeah, gave myself a nice smack for missing the obvious. I got so distracted by trying to figure out how these contentproviders that I missed obvious things... Not seeing the forest from all the trees etc. Oct 17 09:26:55 lasserix: touche Oct 17 09:28:03 Tee_Pee: trying to use contentproviders feels like you've genetically regressed to neanderthal, nothing makes sense any more Oct 17 09:28:20 mitch0: well, the arguments against that are having to manage a separate app + codebase and in my case, a means of exporting and importing data from and to the paid app. Oct 17 09:29:01 I'm considering a simple unlocker app so I can add a "is package installed?" check to the free version... drawback is that it's quite easy to crack. Oct 17 09:29:11 Ankwatcher - It's convoluted. Create DB, create provider, create adapter, create view. Oct 17 09:30:27 I don't want to say "needlessly convoluted" because content providers are primarily for app-to-app communication, and they make sense for that Oct 17 09:31:05 Tee_Pee: yeah, been there. There is that point where you scream at eclipse "Why am I creating a framework to share data with myself?" Oct 17 09:35:13 https://github.com/robotmedia/AndroidBillingLibrary hmm this is interesting Oct 17 09:36:20 hi. I will be working on software for Android soon, and so I was wondering whether anyone has any tips on workflow stuff as I'd like to get set up. all I know is I'll be using vim for my editing, and a free software VM. Oct 17 09:50:32 alexander__b: you probably won't be working in vim. http://developer.android.com/tools/index.html for what/how to setup and then http://developer.android.com/training/basics/firstapp/index.html for Hello World, but i highly recommend getting a beginners book. or watching tutorials online. Oct 17 09:50:59 DysonReturns: nothing wrong with working in vim Oct 17 09:51:33 Leeds: agreed, but I said he "probably won't be". my boss codes in vim, like a boss :) Oct 17 09:52:09 DysonReturns: I will definitely be working in vim Oct 17 09:52:30 alexander__b: are you writing things in C or java? Oct 17 09:52:43 (as a matter of interest) Oct 17 09:53:05 I'm not writing anything yet, but I thought you needed to write in java for android? if you can use C, I'd prefer that, heh. Oct 17 09:53:37 hy all Oct 17 09:53:51 So I have an activity that allows the user to change some values. These values originally came from an object stored in an arraylist in the previous activity, and that object was loaded into this activity when it started. Now I need to overwrite the previous information in the arraylist stored in the previous activity before finishing this activity. Oct 17 09:54:18 well, I start my program, ask for turn on the bluetooth, and finds nothing. After it I kill the program's process, bluetooth stayed on, restart the program and it finds the modul Oct 17 09:54:33 alexander__b: 'native' Android is in Java - you can write in C, but it's really meant for games and other performance-hungry stuff... it means bypassing a bunch of Android's native API Oct 17 09:54:50 how should I correct this? how can I detect if the bluetooth is already turned on or not? Oct 17 09:55:15 or how should I recognise if the discovery process is already stopped or not? Oct 17 09:55:32 HDroid: you can still do the "install this unlocker app" link Oct 17 09:55:43 and worrying about cracking it is pointless Oct 17 09:55:57 make app good, honest folks will pay for it Oct 17 09:56:06 Leeds: I am a game developer, so I might be doing some games sometime. but for my initial "getting to know android app", I thought maybe write a free SMS app that does GETs and POSTs to providers that have n free SMSs per month in a Web interface. Oct 17 09:56:10 dishonest folks will crack it no matter what you do Oct 17 09:56:21 alexander__b: right, you'd be doing that in Java Oct 17 09:56:29 Leeds: I imagined. Oct 17 09:57:11 I don't mind the language, but I don't really like the things that come with it, heh. also I haven't done it with android ever, so I'm keen on getting a workflow set up before my class starts. Oct 17 09:58:03 right now I'm reading the android sdk licence, and after that I'll be compiling the sdk and taking it from there. Oct 17 09:58:47 um... compiling the SDK? Oct 17 09:58:55 for my computer Oct 17 09:59:02 right... Oct 17 09:59:12 * Leeds backs away slowly, not breaking eye contact Oct 17 09:59:39 OK compiling "android-sdk-update-manager" then. Oct 17 09:59:53 Leeds: a vim user is crazy and builds all his own tools, big surprise Oct 17 10:00:51 trying to insult people who work in a different way from you makes people respect you on the internet Oct 17 10:00:54 oh wait... Oct 17 10:01:35 alexander__b: sorry I can't hear you through your beard Oct 17 10:02:06 Ankhwatcher: be nice Oct 17 10:02:24 I have catagories with three sorting modes (alphabetically, frequency, random) that populate a list view (>300 rows) depending on the user choice, as a design implementation should I bother adding the ability to do reverse alphabetical / reverse frequency ? Oct 17 10:02:26 oh lighten up, I'm only playing around Oct 17 10:02:33 somebody? Oct 17 10:03:05 alexander__b: just to flag, it'll probably be easier to user Eclipse for java. You can use whatever, but I'm just trying to help. Oct 17 10:03:45 DysonReturns: eclipse doesn't sit well with me. I am positive I can make a workflow that is better for me. Oct 17 10:04:31 gregtom6: have you tried googling? Oct 17 10:05:10 obviously, but I try that again Oct 17 10:06:12 gregtom6: maybe this will help: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11242519/check-if-bluetooth-is-enabled-using-an-android-application Oct 17 10:07:24 true, I used that previously, lol Oct 17 10:13:57 Why would a popup window ignore the offset in showing? Oct 17 10:14:03 *ignore in only one direction Oct 17 10:14:28 nm it spuriousily works now Oct 17 10:23:26 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12932159/why-there-are-so-many-git-projects-related-to-framework-in-android-source Oct 17 10:24:51 bigmeow: have you tried turning it off and on again. Oct 17 10:27:46 Ankhwatcher: how to turn off a project? Oct 17 10:28:08 BluetoothDevice.ACTION_FOUND this is an action. what kind of values can it get? Oct 17 10:28:26 will it be null until it finds something? Oct 17 10:29:56 gregtom6: it's just a constant, it gets sent to a listener somewhere, I presume (not entirely up to speed on how bluetooth works in Android). Oct 17 10:31:22 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/bluetooth/BluetoothDevice.html#ACTION_FOUND Oct 17 10:31:29 "Your application must register a BroadcastReceiver for the ACTION_FOUND Intent in order to receive information about each device discovered. For each device, the system will broadcast the ACTION_FOUND Intent. This Intent carries the extra fields EXTRA_DEVICE and EXTRA_CLASS, containing a BluetoothDevice and a BluetoothClass, respectively. For example, here's how you can register to handle the broadcast when devices are discovered:" Oct 17 10:31:36 http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/bluetooth.html Oct 17 10:31:52 any hints on how you set up/use the android emulator thing? Oct 17 10:32:12 Yes, developer.android.com Oct 17 10:32:21 how can I detect if the bluetoothdevice instance has finished the discovery action? Oct 17 10:36:07 hm. apparently my $ANDROID_SDK is supposed to be set but isn't. I installed the SDK via android-sdk-update-manager, then added my user to the android group and logged back in. do I need some extra steps to set $ANDROID_SDK Oct 17 10:36:09 ? Oct 17 10:40:24 shold it be /opt/android-sdk-update-manager/ or /opt/android-sdk-update-manager/platform-tools/ or something? Oct 17 10:41:11 I'm assuming the root of your sdk install, i.e. the dir that contains platform-tools/, etc. Oct 17 10:41:26 For me it defaulted to ~/android-sdks but apparently not on your setup. Oct 17 10:41:46 HDroid: it wasn't set at all here Oct 17 10:42:20 I mean the sdk path, I'm not aware of anything setting $ANDROID_SDK (I use eclipse, anyhow). Oct 17 10:42:21 oh. I meant the variable wasn't set at all. the SDK tools are installed to /opt/android-sdk-update-manager/ Oct 17 10:42:30 I imaghine you'd set it in your bash profile or something. Oct 17 10:42:37 -h Oct 17 10:42:57 I'll probably set it in .bashrc Oct 17 10:43:05 but I'm not entirely sure what it's supposed to be, heh Oct 17 10:43:21 Whatever dir has platform-tools, etc. Oct 17 10:43:46 that would be that dir Oct 17 10:45:18 hm. apparently that's not what it should be. Oct 17 10:45:27 the script I'm trying to use is trying to do if ! ctags --recurse --langmap=Java:.java --languages=Java --verbose -f ~/.vim/tags $ANDROID_SDK/sources Oct 17 10:45:50 I imagine that won't work if you haven't actually installed any sources. Oct 17 10:45:53 which gives "ctags: Failure on attempt to read file : Is a directory" when set to that dir. Oct 17 10:45:56 HDroid: aha Oct 17 10:46:07 Hi guys, how do I create a non-visible/translucent activity on top of my app? I need to create an activity that just listens to an openAuth library to call back onActivityResult. I used the following code, but it makes the screen black: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2176922/how-to-create-transparent-activity-in-android?lq=1 Oct 17 10:46:50 HDroid: I have only installed android sdk tools and android sdk platform-tools. what more should I get? Oct 17 10:47:02 just tick and install everything in the latest android version? Oct 17 10:47:34 There's one that should say source (but you'll need at least one platform as well) Oct 17 10:48:13 Note that I haven't ever installed a source package, so unless your situation requires it, it may not be needed. Oct 17 10:53:07 HDroid: I apparently need it to build autocompletion for ctags. Oct 17 10:53:08 Anyone knows where is frameworks/av/media/libmedia/ on http:/github.com/android ? Oct 17 10:53:40 HDroid: can't say I see any "source" in the sdk-update-manager though Oct 17 10:53:55 I have tools, a bunch of apis, and extras. Oct 17 10:54:33 extras is libraries, drivers, sdks, "cloud messaging" and x86 emu accelerator Oct 17 10:54:42 oh Oct 17 10:54:51 sources are in the api dirs. heh. silly me. Oct 17 11:00:40 I hate the bluetooth, I want to discover a device, but I can't. It asked to turn on the BT, can't find anything. I kill the program's process, restart the program with the BT is already on and it finds the device Oct 17 11:02:45 can somebody advice something? Oct 17 11:03:22 since the SDK keeps changing, what's the best target api to use? the newest, or the most used, or the oldest used, or what? Oct 17 11:05:23 HDroid: apparently ctags still dies. guess I'll have to ask the script author. Oct 17 11:06:23 alexander__b: probably target=16 min=8 or 9 Oct 17 11:06:47 What's the best way to zero/"calibrate" a rotation matrix about the device? (rotation matrix is pulled from sensors) Oct 17 11:06:50 sad thing is, i think that will be the situation this time next year hahahaha Oct 17 11:07:09 that is, the min :) Oct 17 11:09:14 Froyo (8) is down to 12.9% Oct 17 11:09:40 HDroid: heh I think the error is elsewhere entirely. "ctags: Failure on attempt to read file : Is a directory" Oct 17 11:09:58 alexander__b: not sure what it expects to find, frankly. Oct 17 11:10:01 I think the error is somewhere in here "ctags --recurse --langmap=Java:.java". guess man ctags is next. Oct 17 11:10:37 HDroid: it's looking for the android sources, and I think that portion is correct now. the sources directory has been made in /opt/android-sdk-update-manager/ - so I think the script is broken elsewhere. Oct 17 11:11:12 i think next year, this time, GB will be still very large, maybe 30%-40% Oct 17 11:11:12 Isn't there a vim plugin for eclipse or something? Oct 17 11:11:33 This is all so complicated Oct 17 11:13:17 Hey Guys Oct 17 11:13:29 is anyone here ? Oct 17 11:13:41 Just a lots bots echoing about bots echoing Oct 17 11:13:59 echo echo echo Oct 17 11:14:07 What is your question? Oct 17 11:14:12 that's good Oct 17 11:14:35 anyway in my layout I have a listview below it a linearlayout which has buttons Oct 17 11:14:40 Just going a little mind numb, been working too many hours straight Oct 17 11:14:47 but button eats up the last row of my list Oct 17 11:15:03 Want's your parent viewgroup containing these? Oct 17 11:15:14 It's a RelativeLayout Oct 17 11:15:17 Om nom Oct 17 11:15:44 echo om nom copy over echo om nom Oct 17 11:15:46 Should probably use a LinearLayout as a container instead of relativelayout and use layout_weight="1" on the listview. Oct 17 11:16:05 and set the layout_height=0 Oct 17 11:16:07 oh, I've set listview height as fill_parent Oct 17 11:16:13 that's bad right Oct 17 11:16:13 that' Oct 17 11:16:15 yeah Oct 17 11:16:34 layout_weight 1 will force the listview to take up remaining space not occupied by the button row Oct 17 11:17:10 putting layout_weight 1 in both the linear layout button row and listview will make them each occupy equal halves of the screen Oct 17 11:17:33 lasserix: I used RelativeLayout as I wanted the button layout to stick to the bottom Oct 17 11:17:42 yes Oct 17 11:17:53 brickhead: this is what the weight will do, since the listview will push it down. Oct 17 11:18:15 cool will give it a try ..thanks Guys Oct 17 11:18:34 np goodluck Oct 17 11:20:14 HDroid: fixed it. once I found out which argument was the actually broken one, things got easy, heh. Oct 17 11:22:15 how can i force the menu button onto the navbar? Oct 17 11:22:28 you are not supposed to do that Oct 17 11:22:35 :/ Oct 17 11:22:44 i don't have a place in my app where i can put a menu button Oct 17 11:22:59 tell me about i spent the last two hours making a popup window act as a dropdown menu since i can't use navmode dropdown Oct 17 11:23:09 are you using ABS? Oct 17 11:23:17 ABS? Oct 17 11:23:22 actionbar sherlock Oct 17 11:23:28 nah, i don't have an action bar Oct 17 11:23:52 this is full screen… i just have the navbuttons at the bottom Oct 17 11:24:00 oh sorry I misinterpretated your question, what do you mean by navbar? Oct 17 11:24:01 are there any formatting guidelines? wrt indentation, bracer placement, etc? Oct 17 11:24:48 in honeycomb+ there's the back, home, and appswitch softkeys…for legacy apps, there's also a menu button… this app is for honeycomb+, but i want that button Oct 17 11:24:54 just add a menu button and tell it to invalidateoptionsmenu Oct 17 11:25:13 that'll force oncreateoptionsmenu which is what the menu button does Oct 17 11:25:18 *physical menu button Oct 17 11:25:37 ultra-: the options button is deprecated Oct 17 11:25:40 what CPU/ABI should I use for my emu? Oct 17 11:25:56 but if you'll put your target sdk < 10 then android will show the soft options menu button for you Oct 17 11:26:18 ultra-: but you should have a very good reason for not using actionbar Oct 17 11:26:29 target or minimum? Oct 17 11:26:46 ultra-: target Oct 17 11:27:00 that tells android that it is an old legacy app Oct 17 11:27:13 oh sorry that's right Oct 17 11:27:16 that's android's way saying "don't use it" Oct 17 11:27:28 :/ Oct 17 11:27:38 ok, well i don't like the space taken up by the action bar Oct 17 11:27:51 what is your app doing? Oct 17 11:27:55 also, this interface is 100% custom (it's music performance related), and that action bar looks like crap Oct 17 11:28:08 controlling sequencing software on a computer Oct 17 11:28:16 ahh cool Oct 17 11:28:26 designed for tablets? Oct 17 11:28:34 yep Oct 17 11:28:46 well you can put tabs in it and stuff and move the navigation to it, but well that's all you got Oct 17 11:29:06 or go the Evernote kind of menu Oct 17 11:29:10 "PANIC: Missing arch-specific emulator program: /opt/android-sdk-update-manager/tools/emulator-mips" uhm Oct 17 11:29:16 let me check evernote's menu Oct 17 11:29:29 so not mips then? Oct 17 11:29:34 Since the last time I ran my project, I've implemented a custom database that holds thumbnail BLOBS, a custom content provider, and a custom SimpleCursorAdapter to my gridview. Wanna take bets on which part it'll crash on first? Oct 17 11:29:37 although I don't know how they do it Oct 17 11:30:01 contentprovider! Oct 17 11:30:18 what do you mean about evernote's? Oct 17 11:30:23 alright, here goes nothing... Oct 17 11:30:28 emulator x86 starts. or... I have a process that uses a lot of CPU at least. no actual window or anything. Oct 17 11:31:05 nullpointer exception in the adapter! Oct 17 11:31:19 more and more it's looking like i'll be using an actionbar Oct 17 11:31:25 so Evernote and couple of other apps (I guess G+ too) uses a slider kind of options Oct 17 11:31:27 maybe i should just accept it Oct 17 11:31:44 you click on a home and it slides the menu for you Oct 17 11:31:49 oh, yeah… where the entire view can be dragged over Oct 17 11:32:01 yep g+ too Oct 17 11:32:10 5. Select the new AVD from the Android Virtual Device Manager and click Start. - check. 6. After the emulator boots up, unlock the emulator screen. - the what now? Oct 17 11:32:35 i'd think that's just animating the leftMargin property on subviews within another view Oct 17 11:33:35 ultra-: it looks classy Oct 17 11:33:47 yeah it is nice Oct 17 11:33:59 about ABS, it can be themed to look less crappy, but it will save you tons of code Oct 17 11:34:00 "starting emulator" reaches 100%. then I get some emulator-x86 process. then there's no window, no nothing. is this WAI? Oct 17 11:35:07 android avd is very helpful by being a GUI app that spits nothing to STDOUT about wtf's going on. so that's nice. something is eating up HDD space though. Oct 17 11:35:30 I assume that would be the snapshot behaviour I activated. Oct 17 11:37:30 First, run ./adb logcat from the platform-tools dir Oct 17 11:37:49 «If your Linux is x86_64 system then is likely that sound in Android emulator will not work out of the box.» right Oct 17 11:37:58 Not sure what the standard way of deploying is for non-Eclipse... but build the apk and adb install or something. Oct 17 11:38:14 Is there an ant script that you're using to build? Oct 17 11:38:17 I have built the apk. Oct 17 11:38:37 ant debug && ant install bin/foo.apk Oct 17 11:38:44 the problem is no emulator. Oct 17 11:39:06 Oh Oct 17 11:39:12 Not how it should be. Oct 17 11:39:19 Should spawn a window Oct 17 11:41:14 I am on a multilib system, so the fact that the emu is for 32-bit atom shouldn't be a problem. in avd there's a nice green check next to the emulator. running it produces no errors anywhere. but... no window. Oct 17 11:42:22 Did it spawn the little loader window though? Oct 17 11:42:42 yes. the bars fills up. then nothing. Oct 17 11:43:33 *bar Oct 17 11:45:30 trying to start it from the command line now Oct 17 11:45:37 emulator: ERROR: Could not load OpenGLES emulation library: libOpenglRender.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Oct 17 11:45:39 emulator: WARNING: Could not initialize OpenglES emulation, using software renderer. Oct 17 11:46:08 Either install that or disable hardware accel. Oct 17 11:46:17 it says it's using software renderer Oct 17 11:46:27 Did you enable GPU as well? Oct 17 11:46:59 Oh, this is GPU acceleration I guess, not hardware acceleration. Oct 17 11:47:15 It's tricky, best try without any acceleration at all and go from there. Oct 17 11:47:19 I didn't enable anything. I just added an emulator with intel atom. Oct 17 11:47:32 how do I specify to not use any acceleration? Oct 17 11:47:50 here's a stupid question: my menu button has "new" and "settings" items in it… so there must be a default menu somewhere… where is it?? Oct 17 11:48:08 i think you can use popupmenu Oct 17 11:48:13 check api level though Oct 17 11:48:17 It's an option if you add a new avd (or you can use the edit button) Oct 17 11:48:19 its different from popupwindow Oct 17 11:49:10 if I want to build an application with a workflow (several 'screens' that the user navigates like a web browser) what is the best way to do this? Oct 17 11:49:33 fragments fragments pager ? Oct 17 11:50:44 using activities would have been the 1.5 way of doing it Oct 17 11:50:49 but that seems to 'heavy' Oct 17 11:50:53