**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 20 02:59:59 2013
Jan 20 03:14:23 <clever> http://privatepaste.com/e941d63151 i'm having trouble with .addView, it seems to only work once in this case
Jan 20 03:14:33 <clever> the 2nd and 3rd pass thru the loop are missing
Jan 20 03:25:18 <clever> ah, my inner layout was set to match_parrent width!
Jan 20 03:32:13 <Parhs> hello
Jan 20 03:32:35 <Parhs> i need to display a circle with 4 diferent colors as  drawablelEFT textview
Jan 20 03:32:47 <Parhs> what id the best way to do it?
Jan 20 03:34:38 <jda2000> How do I set the clock on my AVD?
Jan 20 03:35:15 <jda2000> I mean from the device not an api.
Jan 20 03:44:45 <jda2000> How do i go into WiFi mode on the AVD?
Jan 20 04:15:52 <lasserix> clever are you making sure it is iterating past the first element?
Jan 20 04:24:31 <MajorZero> Good evening android, I am trying to create an application with a list view and custom adapter for each of the rows. I want each of the rows to have a box of some sort and I can move each "box" with a horizontal scroll view. Is there anyway I can do this?
Jan 20 04:34:46 <lasserix> Anyone know a stat graph for tablet os ownership?
Jan 20 04:43:44 <clever> lasserix: yeah, the problem was the width of the inner layout
Jan 20 04:43:59 <clever> lasserix: it was set to match parrent, so all 3 items in the row, where 1 screen wide
Jan 20 04:44:06 <clever> making the whole thing 3 times too wide to fit
Jan 20 04:59:27 <liquidmetal> How would someone go about creating an interface like this: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma16f90BNj1r2wjwko3_1280.png
Jan 20 05:00:15 <brinsjt> make a new veiw
Jan 20 05:00:19 <brinsjt> a custom one
Jan 20 05:00:30 <hiemanshu> or use OpenGL to do it
Jan 20 05:00:59 <liquidmetal> Would that view contain everything? The circular buttons + titlebar at the top, etc?
Jan 20 05:01:13 <lasserix> Is there an api to the google speech input?
Jan 20 05:01:37 <lasserix> And what is it called, because "google voice" also refers to the virtual calling service
Jan 20 05:01:44 <brinsjt> yeah i was going to suggest that hiemanshu
Jan 20 05:02:14 <hiemanshu> liquidmetal: you're writing it, you can add anything you like
Jan 20 05:04:20 <DarkIRC2100> is it possible to access UI elements (a button for ex.) that lies within a different layout xml than layout xml currently active?
Jan 20 05:04:33 <lasserix> What are you trying to do?
Jan 20 05:04:38 <liquidmetal> brinsjt, hiemanshu: My main concern is that I might be writing code for stuff that already exists in the API.
Jan 20 05:04:53 <DarkIRC2100> lasserix, me?
Jan 20 05:05:00 <lasserix> liquidmetal: there is no api for that view implementation
Jan 20 05:05:13 <lasserix> you might be able to find a third party library i wonder
Jan 20 05:05:20 <lasserix> darkIRC yeah
Jan 20 05:05:36 <liquidmetal> lasserix: what about the stuff in the background? Would that have to be a custom view as well?
Jan 20 05:06:54 <DarkIRC2100> lasserix, I have 1 fragment that is a list of database entries, on another fragment I have buttons to add entries.....when I press a button on the first fragment I want it to add an entry and also refresh the entries shown on the other fragment
Jan 20 05:07:06 <lasserix> Uhh kinda well it just looks like a view hierrchy divided up as linearlayouts with the center content partitition containing a minimal listview
Jan 20 05:07:56 <lasserix> DarkIRC abstract the refresh function as a method in your secondary fragment, to be called whenever the first fragment's button is pushed (probably though an interface of somesort)
Jan 20 05:08:56 <lasserix> To answer your question yes it is possible as long as it is on the UI-thread, however if you don't encapsulate that kinda thing it can get thorny
Jan 20 05:09:21 <DarkIRC2100> thanks I'll try you suggestion
Jan 20 05:10:55 <lasserix> The pleasant thing too is if you use a refresh function you can call it after the fragment loads for devices displaying one the single fragment, or simply call it by the parent activity if the device is showing fragments side by side :)
Jan 20 05:12:12 <DarkIRC2100> yeah that is what I am wanting out of the button activity :D
Jan 20 05:23:22 <josiah14> I;m having a tiny issue.  I'm learning Android right now, so forgive the n00b questions/issues.  I have a program right now that launches a new layout when a button is clicked off the start layout (using the OnClick listener and startActivity(intent) methods).  in the view that pops up, I tried to use the same method to launch a new layout from a button click, but when I press the button, the OnClick listener never triggers.
Jan 20 05:23:47 <josiah14> Why is my event not firing, is it a a threading issue of some kind
Jan 20 05:24:10 <josiah14> let me know if I need to put anything for y'all up on pastebin
Jan 20 05:24:12 <lasserix> Are you instantiating any threads?
Jan 20 05:24:22 <josiah14> not explicitly
Jan 20 05:24:29 <k0nichiwa> a modification of an existing file which does not change it's size, but only changes binary content  ....   how slow might those be, to the sdcard ?
Jan 20 05:24:45 <k0nichiwa> just wondering if what makes writes to the file system slow is allocating new file space, or changing existing content
Jan 20 05:24:55 <lasserix> Then its probably not a threading issuing: can you pastebin your second activity's code?
Jan 20 05:25:11 <josiah14> any new threads would have been spawned in the bg automatically by the SDK
Jan 20 05:25:28 <lasserix> don't worry about it, i was being rhetorical :)
Jan 20 05:25:45 <k0nichiwa> josiah14, are you using Handler class ?
Jan 20 05:25:51 <lasserix> no no
Jan 20 05:26:44 <lasserix> unless you are an overachieving noob, why would you be messing with handlers and such? its probably a misstep with reusing ids or not properly linking the click handlers
Jan 20 05:26:45 <josiah14> I am not using Handler
Jan 20 05:27:56 <lasserix> where's the code?
Jan 20 05:29:15 <MajorZero>  I am trying to create an application with a list view and custom adapter for each of the rows. I want each of the rows to have a box of some sort and I can move each "box" with a horizontal scroll view. Is there anyway I can do this?
Jan 20 05:29:36 <josiah14> here is the code
Jan 20 05:29:37 <josiah14> http://pastebin.com/LSC3eH8p
Jan 20 05:30:10 <josiah14> if you need more, I don't mind sharing the repo since its all tutorial based anyway
Jan 20 05:30:34 <josiah14> https://github.com/josiah14/FuelConsumptionTutorial
Jan 20 05:33:06 <josiah14> just pushed the current code to the repo
Jan 20 05:33:27 <lasserix> brb a sec
Jan 20 05:33:40 <josiah14> sure thing
Jan 20 05:34:56 <josiah14> buttonAddRecord is the listener that fails to trigger
Jan 20 05:41:12 <jda2000> Anybody have experience running AVD in WiFi mode?  I googled for it but the instructions don't match what I'm seeing from Eclipse.
Jan 20 05:43:15 <jda2000> I need it to run from the wlan so it can respond to mDNS.
Jan 20 05:45:00 <josiah14> Could my issue have anything to do maybe with code that couldn't
Jan 20 05:45:18 <josiah14> sorry, couldn't be hot-swapped during testing?
Jan 20 05:45:36 <josiah14> I'm using a physical device for debugging
Jan 20 05:46:00 <jda2000> josiah14, Yep. That works.
Jan 20 05:47:47 <jda2000> So, does anyone know if any AVD can run as a WiFi connected device?
Jan 20 05:50:50 <[deXter]> josiah14, Are you the same Josiah as in Spackman?
Jan 20 05:51:30 <josiah14> jd, in that case, what do I have to do, delete the program from the phone before debugging again?
Jan 20 05:51:59 <josiah14> what is Spackman?
Jan 20 05:52:44 <[deXter]> Oh, dw. I thought you were Josiah Spackman
Jan 20 05:52:50 <[deXter]> From Google+
Jan 20 05:52:58 <josiah14> naw
Jan 20 05:53:04 <josiah14> sorry, man
Jan 20 05:53:11 <[deXter]> np :)
Jan 20 05:54:27 <jda2000> josiah14, Was that to me?   That's what I do.  I delete the app from the device before I rebuild it.
Jan 20 05:56:11 <dragorn> jda2000: the specifics of your request are going to be hard to fulfill
Jan 20 05:56:18 <josiah14> okay, Yah, I tried that and it didn't work for me
Jan 20 05:56:21 <dragorn> jda2000: namely, you're going to have to bridge it to a wired device
Jan 20 05:57:06 <pragma-> you don't have to delete the app, just adb install -r it
Jan 20 05:57:13 <dragorn> jda2000: so problem 1, get wifi virtual networking working in the emulator; i've never done this, not relevant to my life.  problem 2, bridge that to a WIRED interface on your host, not wireless - this is because wireless is weird, and you can't bridge multiple clients on one association
Jan 20 05:57:23 <winsen> hi all
Jan 20 05:57:34 <dragorn> jda2000: routed won't pick up mdns (unless it's from the laptop the emulator is running on)
Jan 20 05:57:48 <dragorn> jda2000: and you can't bridge to a wifi nic in client mode, because wifi.
Jan 20 05:58:25 <dragorn> jda2000: and if none of that made sense, you're in for a world of unhappy and learning more about networking than you want to
Jan 20 05:58:38 <jda2000> dragorn, Thanks, I just wanted to know if there was a button to push today.  If not, I'll keep testing on real hardware.
Jan 20 05:58:46 <ron_frown> cacks
Jan 20 05:58:51 <Pfhoenix> bawls
Jan 20 05:59:10 <dragorn> jda2000: you can get networking in the emulator; but getting it to talk mdns to your real network will be non-trivial
Jan 20 05:59:23 <winsen> can, you please help to root my phone (galaxy nexus 4.2.1)? thanks
Jan 20 05:59:30 <dragorn> winsen: #android-root
Jan 20 05:59:44 <winsen> it seems nobody at home
Jan 20 05:59:54 <dragorn> this channel is for app development
Jan 20 06:00:04 <dragorn> or check the xda forums
Jan 20 06:00:32 <winsen> dragorn: I agree, as I said it seems nobody there
Jan 20 06:00:52 <ron_frown> xda has that information
Jan 20 06:00:56 <winsen> how fo you ask the question in xda?
Jan 20 06:01:02 <ron_frown> you dont need to
Jan 20 06:01:04 <dragorn> winsen: unfortunately lack of anyone on that channel, doesn't mean this is the appropriate place to ask
Jan 20 06:01:05 <jda2000> dragorn, What you say makes a lot on sense.  I didn't think it would be easy.
Jan 20 06:01:10 <ron_frown> galaxy nexus has deidcated forums
Jan 20 06:01:26 <Engen> Hello. Just a general question, how close is the android store to catching up to the apple store for mobile apps?
Jan 20 06:01:39 <jda2000> Engen, Huh?
Jan 20 06:01:57 <dragorn> jda2000: i'm not even sure you can talk mdns in android?  I'd expect it to need raw network access which you wouldn't get normally
Jan 20 06:01:59 <jda2000> Engen, In downloads or offerings?
Jan 20 06:02:06 <dragorn> jda2000: unless they've added an API i didn't notice
Jan 20 06:02:14 <Engen> jda2000: offerings
Jan 20 06:03:43 <dragorn> jda2000: taking a quick look at the emulator docs; it's configured to run on its own virtual router so you can'te ven bridge it directly
Jan 20 06:03:58 <Engen> jda2000: I have been directed to the right place. Ty.
Jan 20 06:04:16 <dragorn> jda2000: you could try the vmware intel builds and bridge those, or I'm sure you COULD hack up the qemu internals of the emulator and get at the virtual network interface
Jan 20 06:04:57 <jda2000> dragorn, I'm happy to report that the code i found here works: svn checkout http://daap-client.googlecode.com/svn/ daap-client-read-only
Jan 20 06:05:26 <dragorn> jda2000: really.  huh.  must be an api to bind multicast addresses built in then; that's cool, didn't realize
Jan 20 06:05:37 <jda2000> dragorn, At least it works on real hardware.
Jan 20 06:08:23 <jda2000> dragorn, but according to this: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=42051   You have to have the SVN plugins installed to build it.
Jan 20 06:09:24 <jda2000> dragorn, in the AVD you just get a message saying you need to be in WiFi mode.
Jan 20 06:10:30 <dragorn> jda2000: your problem is really going to be getting the emulator network interface bridged to your real network
Jan 20 06:11:16 <jda2000> dragorn, I'm going to leave that to the ADT developers.  If it never happens, that's OK too.
Jan 20 06:12:52 <josiah14> what's the best forum for posting Android dev questions to?
Jan 20 06:13:24 <jda2000> josiah14, I think this is it.
Jan 20 06:13:41 <ron_frown> there are android-developer
Jan 20 06:13:48 <ron_frown> and android-platform
Jan 20 06:13:52 <dragorn> here, or stackexchange if you want to get webby
Jan 20 06:15:04 <winsen> good night
Jan 20 06:15:26 <jda2000> Engen: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57542502-94/google-ties-apple-with-700000-android-apps/
Jan 20 06:15:38 <jda2000> Engen?
Jan 20 06:16:09 <canadiancow> microsoft has 120k?
Jan 20 06:16:10 <canadiancow> wow
Jan 20 06:16:51 <g00s> "The number of /important/ apps offered for an operating system is an important factor for driving user adoption."
Jan 20 06:16:55 <jda2000> canadiancow, Yes, but how many actually run?
Jan 20 06:16:56 <g00s> ftfy ;)
Jan 20 06:18:30 <g00s> China Mobile has 100k android users with infected devices :O
Jan 20 06:18:59 <g00s> the apps were from China Mobile's own curated store
Jan 20 06:19:47 <jda2000> g00s, Gulp!  And the DHS says I should remove Java from my devices.
Jan 20 06:20:04 <josiah14> haha, I'm probably gonna post my questions here then https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/android-developers
Jan 20 06:20:18 <g00s> jda2000: yeah, who uses applets in 2012 anyhow :/
Jan 20 06:20:33 <g00s> oh, 2013 :D
Jan 20 06:22:43 <canadiancow> silly g00s doesn't even know what year it is
Jan 20 06:23:57 <g00s> i hope i didn't write any checks with 2012 on it
Jan 20 06:25:02 <jda2000> dragorn, But isn't it odd that  you can google for and find instructions on how to use features that don't exist?
Jan 20 06:27:01 <dragorn> jda2000: having a virtual wifi nic in the device is different than bridging it to a real network
Jan 20 06:27:06 <ArmyMan007> hey everyone... my SD card sometimes randomly disconnects itself from my phone (xperia play) and when I insert it back the phone says "damaged SD card". I've been looking at some fourms and it seems that the problem happenes because I transfer files to my SD card using my computer
Jan 20 06:27:15 <dragorn> jda2000: and the official docs I found said it's represented in the emulator as an ethernet device, not wifi, anyhow
Jan 20 06:27:17 <ArmyMan007> any idea how to solve this problem?
Jan 20 06:27:59 <ArmyMan007> notice the fact that sometimes my files are gone, meaning that the phone "deletes" the files in the SD card
Jan 20 06:28:46 <jda2000> ArmyMan007, I'm not sure.  Are you removing the SD card from your computer properly?
Jan 20 06:29:02 <ArmyMan007> jda2000, yes
Jan 20 06:29:16 <ArmyMan007> FYI: it's formatted into FAT32
Jan 20 06:31:09 <ArmyMan007> any ideas?
Jan 20 06:31:38 <DarkIRC2100> SD card could be going bad
Jan 20 06:31:44 <DarkIRC2100> happened to an old phone of mine
Jan 20 06:32:08 <dragorn> not really the channel for it; this channel is for app dev.  I'd check the xda forums specific to your device and see if there are suggestions there.  There's no issue using a sd card in a phone and a PC provided you eject it properly on both devices.
Jan 20 06:32:14 <jda2000> ArmyMan007, What OS is on the computer?
Jan 20 06:33:11 <ArmyMan007> dragorn, I'm sorry for posting the question here, I just don't have anywhere else to go to... jda2000, Windows 7 X64
Jan 20 06:42:42 <jda2000> dragorn, My last comment was not intended as a contradiction to anything you said.
Jan 20 06:43:13 <ArmyMan007> oh man... can't believe it's happening to me all over again T__T
Jan 20 06:43:23 <dragorn> jda2000: re: wifi emulation, I don't see any way to do it; the docs say it will show up as ethernet
Jan 20 06:43:35 <dragorn> jda2000: I suspect people in general conflate wifi and 'networking' and you get bad docs
Jan 20 06:44:09 <dragorn> jda2000: qemu already has an ethernet hw device emulation; it'd be a lot of work to make a generic wifi device emulator for it, unless they played tricks and just called it wifi in android
Jan 20 06:48:15 <ron_frown> oi
Jan 20 06:51:57 <jda2000> Thanks all and Good Night!
Jan 20 08:03:46 <josiah14> wow guys, lowest point of my week
Jan 20 08:03:55 <josiah14> all that trouble over a copy-paste error
Jan 20 08:04:08 <josiah14> I should probably start sleeping again
Jan 20 08:07:58 <TheBunny> it happens :)
Jan 20 08:13:34 <pierpark> Is MediaPlayer recommended if playing actual tracks rather than 1-5 second sound clips?
Jan 20 08:14:59 <thepoosh> yes
Jan 20 08:15:10 <thepoosh> if you want small tracks use SoundPool
Jan 20 08:16:21 <pierpark> Cool sounds good. Thanks
Jan 20 08:16:28 <thepoosh> pleasure
Jan 20 09:21:28 <Ologn> There are 106 million .com domains registered.  Geez.
Jan 20 09:30:44 <loin> hello, i can't get the sdcard to work in my emulator. i followed the instructions here http://developer.android.com/tools/help/mksdcard.html
Jan 20 09:30:51 <loin> al@gunoi:/home/stuff/workspaces/android/nexus$ mksdcard 256M ../nexusdcard.iso
Jan 20 09:30:51 <loin> al@gunoi:/home/stuff/workspaces/android/nexus$ emulator -sdcard ../nexusdcard.iso -skin NEXUS-S -scale 0.6  -cpu-delay 0 -no-boot-anim
Jan 20 09:30:56 <loin> but it won't work
Jan 20 09:33:35 <thepoosh> is there a way to cancel a Runnable from a ScheduledExecutorService
Jan 20 09:33:37 <thepoosh> ?
Jan 20 09:33:41 <thepoosh> clear
Jan 20 09:34:40 <thepoosh> is there a way to schedule more than one Runnable for a ScheduledExecutorService?
Jan 20 09:50:44 <StingRay_> is there are reliable way to see if a service is bound to an activity ? I keep getting a "Service not registered" Exception in my onPause, but the condition is set from onServiceConnected and **Disconnected so I dont see why it keeps crashing (I think I have to do it quite quick)
Jan 20 09:52:00 <thepoosh> your logcat has nothing?
Jan 20 09:52:06 <thepoosh> in the stacktrace
Jan 20 09:52:33 <StingRay_> well yeah it dead at my onPause where i unbind the service
Jan 20 09:52:42 <StingRay_> with the exception service not registered
Jan 20 09:53:12 <StingRay_> but my registered flag is set to true AND it delivered info to the activity
Jan 20 09:53:21 <StingRay_> so not quite sure whats going on
Jan 20 09:58:05 <thepoosh> did you debug and make sure that the service is bound?
Jan 20 09:59:54 <StingRay_> well it passes the content for a list view and delivers a Message that triggers setup of the listView, all that works, I'm using a non aidl  Messenger 2 way method and I think onServiceDisconnected may have a prob
Jan 20 09:59:59 <StingRay_> firing into debug now
Jan 20 10:00:56 <DOSP> guys can you tell me why suddenly Eclipse can find where si located adb
Jan 20 10:00:59 <DOSP> ?
Jan 20 10:01:44 <StingRay_> you moved it ? deleted it? a path var changed? eclipse lost it's prefs?  take you pick
Jan 20 10:01:58 <StingRay_> loads of potential things
Jan 20 10:02:29 <DOSP> nothing, of that
Jan 20 10:02:49 <DOSP> just turned off laptop and back on again
Jan 20 10:03:35 <pragma-> consider using something other than eclipse
Jan 20 10:03:52 <DOSP> well its late for that now , maybe later
Jan 20 10:07:44 <StingRay_> thepoosh has to be something with timing, I cant replicate the exception in the debugger
Jan 20 10:38:42 <rohdef> isn't there an official guide for the correct dbus settings under Linux?
Jan 20 10:38:56 <rohdef> or do I just have to copy paste from random blog posts?
Jan 20 10:42:07 <rohdef> nvm, found it
Jan 20 10:55:35 <lasserix> Anyone have a recomendation on best way to transmit images and strings from server to client android?
Jan 20 10:56:19 <timroes> lsa
Jan 20 10:57:06 <clever> what could i use to get the grid effect of a TableLayout, but the list effects of a ListView?
Jan 20 10:57:28 <timroes> clever: GridLayout?!
Jan 20 10:57:38 <timroes> eh gridview*
Jan 20 10:57:43 <clever> timroes: *looks*
Jan 20 10:57:47 <lasserix> timroes: lsa me?
Jan 20 10:58:04 <timroes> no `lsa` my console, but wrong window focused :D
Jan 20 10:58:09 <lasserix> oh! ;p
Jan 20 10:58:16 <clever> timroes: looks like a decent match
Jan 20 10:58:46 <timroes> clever: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/layout/gridview.html i guess thats what you want to have
Jan 20 10:59:11 <timroes> you use it with normal listadapters but have the grid layout
Jan 20 10:59:26 <clever> timroes: i'll have to fire up eclipse and try it once i have enough free ram
Jan 20 11:00:17 <timroes> :D
Jan 20 11:01:03 <clever> i'm a bit of a pack-rat with firefox tabs
Jan 20 11:01:08 <clever> at last count, i have 1400 tabs open
Jan 20 11:01:16 <g00s> wat !
Jan 20 11:01:17 <timroes> you conted them? :)
Jan 20 11:01:23 <clever> timroes: i wrote an extension to count them
Jan 20 11:01:29 <timroes> i doubt my system would have enough ram to have 1400 firefox tabs open
Jan 20 11:01:42 <g00s> yeah , after 14 its taking 500 megs
Jan 20 11:01:43 <clever> timroes: its at 1598 tabs right now
Jan 20 11:01:50 <lasserix> you're going to give your computer dementia doing that
Jan 20 11:01:57 <clever> 99% of those are showing about:blank, a memory saving trick
Jan 20 11:02:01 <g00s> clever: how much ram do you have ?
Jan 20 11:02:01 <clever> to speed up resuming the session
Jan 20 11:02:15 <clever> g00s: 3gig, firefox is currently eating 965mb resident
Jan 20 11:03:06 <timroes> 547mb ram for firefox with just one about:blank tab opened :)
Jan 20 11:03:23 <clever> g00s: about:memory shows that ~42% of it is in 'window-objects' and another 37% in 'non-js-window'
Jan 20 11:03:24 <Leeds> so if they're showing about:blank, I guess they each have a URL assigned - in which case you're pretty much using the tab list as a bookmark list
Jan 20 11:03:43 <clever> Leeds: yeah
Jan 20 11:03:56 <clever> Leeds: firefox will automaticaly load the page if i focus the tab, and then keep it loaded until i close the whole program
Jan 20 11:04:06 <g00s> clever: any url to this about:blank trick ?
Jan 20 11:04:11 <clever> similar to how many views in android lazily load fragments
Jan 20 11:04:21 <Leeds> I've got 220 real tabs open in Chrome right now
Jan 20 11:04:21 <clever> g00s: its automatic, within the tab restore system
Jan 20 11:05:03 <clever> g00s: you can see it working, because when you first focus a tab (after tab restore) it takes a while to load (network roundtrips)
Jan 20 11:05:43 <g00s> hmm, i get the impression mine always has everything loaded
Jan 20 11:05:43 <clever> oh, crap, lol
Jan 20 11:05:59 <clever> just knocked something heavy off a table, and picked it back up
Jan 20 11:06:08 <clever> then i noticed, the severed end of a usb cable on the floor.....
Jan 20 11:06:14 <clever> where did that come from....
Jan 20 11:06:27 <timroes> clever: damn now you have to go down again :)
Jan 20 11:06:57 <clever> i managed to slice clean thru a usb extension, just by dropping a 12v battery
Jan 20 11:08:01 <clever> atleast the power was off, lol
Jan 20 11:08:48 <clever> g00s: checking about:memory, it semes the single fattest tab is facebook, at 63mb!
Jan 20 11:09:06 <clever> g00s: mostly in js objects
Jan 20 11:09:09 <g00s> every chrome tab is about that much
Jan 20 11:10:51 <g00s> so is the trick to getting this to work to close down FF and restart it; FF doesn't preload the tabs - once you select one it loads it ?
Jan 20 11:11:07 <clever> g00s: kinda
Jan 20 11:11:21 <clever> g00s: just the framework to make 1500 tab objects eats up over 600-700mb of ram
Jan 20 11:11:43 <clever> if they actualy had content, it would probly run out of address space (32bit kernel)
Jan 20 11:13:04 <jigal> anyone here with experience of Junit for android
Jan 20 11:17:34 <Hiraghm> any one know of a tutorial on programming external joysticks/gamepads etc?
Jan 20 11:19:33 <clever> timroes: hmmm wait, does GridView have rows of a fixed width, or does it just arrange blocks to fit as many per row as it can?
Jan 20 11:25:03 <g00s> clever: i have to find something that allows hierarchical keywords for bookmarks
Jan 20 11:25:21 <g00s> the flat tagging FF has is not enough; chrome doesn't even have that
Jan 20 11:27:44 <SimonVT> clever: You tell GridView how many columns to have
Jan 20 11:28:04 <g00s> my favorite is 1 column
Jan 20 11:28:06 <pragma-> g00s: write a plugin/addon or create your own browser
Jan 20 11:28:13 <clever> SimonVT: ah, i'll try that
Jan 20 11:29:18 <clever> SimonVT: but will i need to output 3 items for each row?
Jan 20 11:29:42 <clever> i was looking for something more, where i can output a single TableRow type item, containing the fields
Jan 20 11:31:11 <g00s> clever: ok, i see the pref 'dont load tabs until selected'
Jan 20 11:34:32 <clever> SimonVT: yeah, each call to getItem winds up in a seperate cell, not row, so the whole ui is a mess now!
Jan 20 11:34:42 <clever> need to seperate things out
Jan 20 11:36:17 <g00s> wow, i was just reading about the WSJ iOS app in 2011 - they really screwed up their usability and irritated about 1/2 million users
Jan 20 11:36:40 <g00s> thats a UX foobar
Jan 20 11:37:12 <timroes> clever: if you want to have one row per item, why don't you use listview?
Jan 20 11:37:29 <clever> timroes: i want the columns within each row to line up, like a TableLayout
Jan 20 11:38:17 <timroes> okay I am still not sure, what you want. You have an adapter with items, should there be more then one item, in each row?
Jan 20 11:38:42 <clever> timroes: its a list of messages, with a line of text and a date/time stamp
Jan 20 11:38:45 <clever> i want the date/times to form a single column, all lined up
Jan 20 11:39:03 <timroes> but so you have one item per row
Jan 20 11:39:08 <timroes> meaning one message per row
Jan 20 11:39:11 <clever> yeah
Jan 20 11:39:42 <timroes> why don't you just use a list view, and design the view that is used to represent each item, so that the message and date are at a specified size
Jan 20 11:39:53 <timroes> so they will be all below each others in the different rows
Jan 20 11:40:12 <lasserix> Assuming i have an app with some of the basis of a visual text editor (justification, text style, spacing, etc) what's the best way to save formatting as to upload it to a server?
Jan 20 11:40:18 <clever> timroes: wont i run into clipping problems if the text winds up being too long then?
Jan 20 11:40:34 <lasserix> clever you can ellipsize it?
Jan 20 11:41:05 <clever> lasserix: the date/time field is more predicable in size, but then id be cutting off the time
Jan 20 11:41:16 <clever> and it would depend heavily on how the locale formats date/times
Jan 20 11:41:39 <lasserix> you can always measure the painted text and replace it if too great
Jan 20 11:42:02 <clever> that kinda defeats the point of using a TableLayout that does it automaticaly
Jan 20 11:42:09 <lasserix> heh
Jan 20 11:42:20 <clever> let me see what i can do with just right-aligning it
Jan 20 11:42:27 <g00s> does it have to all be on the same line? you can use a 2 line layout; first line is larger / bold text for title; 2nd line is smaller & lighter text for time
Jan 20 11:42:51 <clever> g00s: i'm currently using a layout file for each row, manualy calling inflate within getItem
Jan 20 11:42:56 <clever> so each row can be anything
Jan 20 11:43:05 <g00s> i'd right justify the second line to enhance the scanability of the titles
Jan 20 11:43:17 <clever> *gets screenshot*
Jan 20 11:43:48 <clever> http://gallery.earthtools.ca/index.py/android/device-2013-01-20-074332.png
Jan 20 11:43:54 <clever> as you can see, its rather unreadable as it is now
Jan 20 11:44:54 <g00s> ok, so you have everything on a single line
Jan 20 11:45:00 <lasserix> That poor, poor mountain
Jan 20 11:45:03 <clever> let me try tweaking the layout xml a bit
Jan 20 11:45:22 <clever> lasserix: lol :)
Jan 20 11:45:57 <lasserix> I don't like gridviews for this kind of information, a personal perference. Users should be able to switch how the information is presented.
Jan 20 11:46:34 <lasserix> However why not make it two lines <place> /n <Action> @ <Time>
Jan 20 11:46:45 <lasserix> put the second line in a horizontal scrollview
Jan 20 11:47:06 <clever> lasserix: i'm trying it out with 3 views, <msg><void weight=1><time>, all of them TextView
Jan 20 11:47:48 <lasserix> also dunno what this is for but i believe you are showing wayy too much time info
Jan 20 11:48:15 <clever> yeah, i'm just using Date.toString()
Jan 20 11:48:21 <clever> i plan to clean that up later
Jan 20 11:48:36 <clever> toString was faster to test out the ui component
Jan 20 11:48:49 <g00s> android has some nice time formatting utilities
Jan 20 11:48:54 <lasserix> oh well since you are designing the ui layout you may want to consider just doing that step so you know what you are working with
Jan 20 11:49:01 <g00s> for example, if the date is today, it only shows the time
Jan 20 11:49:18 <clever> yeah
Jan 20 11:49:20 <lasserix> because that accoutns for half your text length
Jan 20 11:49:47 <clever> lasserix: i plan to also make this into a fragment, to show the full content on the side
Jan 20 11:49:59 <clever> like this, http://gallery.earthtools.ca/index.py/android/device-2013-01-19-220529.png
Jan 20 11:50:24 <SimonVT> You could put a picture of a mountain to the left, top textview shows "Plundered by blah" or something and bottom textview show the timestamp
Jan 20 11:50:32 <lasserix> ahh then stick with a basic listview
Jan 20 11:50:52 <lasserix> "basic" i mean there's no point using something like grid or table it'll be convuluted
Jan 20 11:50:52 <SimonVT> http://developer.android.com/design/media/lists_main.png
Jan 20 11:50:57 <SimonVT> 2 line list, put the image to the left instead
Jan 20 11:51:14 <SimonVT> That'll probably also be a lot prettier than just text
Jan 20 11:51:42 <clever> http://gallery.earthtools.ca/index.py/android/device-2013-01-20-075121.png this works
Jan 20 11:51:56 <clever> i put a 3rd dummy TextView in the middle, with weight=1, so it will fill the gap up
Jan 20 11:52:09 <lasserix> you can use an arbitrary view to do that too :)
Jan 20 11:52:27 <lasserix> far more readable but you'll end up having to redo it before too long!
Jan 20 11:52:46 <clever> yeah, wasnt sure what was best on the memory footprint
Jan 20 11:52:52 <SimonVT> There is actually a view for that: https://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/Space.html
Jan 20 11:53:07 <clever> i tried putting that on another layout lastnight, it didnt do anything
Jan 20 11:53:12 <clever> didnt even show up in the xml
Jan 20 11:53:18 <lasserix> ahh thanks SimonVT good to know
Jan 20 11:53:33 <clever> i quickly threw in a LinierLayout with fixed width/height
Jan 20 11:54:22 <clever> SimonVT: yeah, its still doing it, when i drag&drop a Space in, nothing happens
Jan 20 11:54:35 <clever> api level 14??!?!?!, lol
Jan 20 11:54:42 <clever> thats probly why!
Jan 20 11:55:51 <clever> i think i'll just go with a bare <View>
Jan 20 11:56:17 <SimonVT> You can copy it to your own project if you want, it requires no changes
Jan 20 11:56:36 <SimonVT> But for something like that, positioning them using a relativelayout saves you an extra view
Jan 20 11:56:43 <clever> SimonVT: ive already tried that with CookieManager to get it on api 8
Jan 20 11:56:50 <clever> it didnt work out very well
Jan 20 11:56:59 <SimonVT> You can't really compare that
Jan 20 11:57:09 <clever> its using private methods/classes at several points, its like trying to pull out a loose thread
Jan 20 11:57:10 <lasserix> Anyone know ball park number of hours to code a port of a somewhat complex web app to android?
Jan 20 11:57:43 <clever> lasserix: thats what i'm doing, porting a javascript game (5mb of raw js, after minify) without the aid of the developer
Jan 20 11:57:59 <lasserix> oh ha
Jan 20 11:58:01 <clever> been at it a month now, part of the trouble is just decoding the network protocol
Jan 20 11:58:21 <clever> json fields with single letter names everywhere!
Jan 20 11:59:09 <clever> lasserix: and it gets worse, they used a custom base 92 encoding to jam as many bits into every ascii char, in some places
Jan 20 11:59:18 <clever> base64 wasnt good enough for them :P
Jan 20 11:59:27 <lasserix> and you are doing this for fun, i bet? ;p
Jan 20 12:00:27 <mahawksid> hey, here is a code snippet http://pastebin.com/1f8HhARs
Jan 20 12:00:27 <mahawksid> But the IS_READ works only for ICS  and above,
Jan 20 12:00:27 <mahawksid> Can someone suggest me some alternative to IS_READ
Jan 20 12:00:55 <mahawksid> i wish to use this function for gingerbread and above
Jan 20 12:01:54 <clever> plan to put the app on the play store
Jan 20 12:01:54 <clever> the performance is also massively better
Jan 20 12:01:54 <clever> the official client eats 100% cpu when idle, with animations off
Jan 20 12:02:33 <pragma-> sounds like a noob busy-wait loop
Jan 20 12:02:48 <clever> lasserix: hmmm, and it crashes if i turn the screen sideways!
Jan 20 12:03:35 <lasserix> probably cause the data set is  null?
Jan 20 12:04:13 <clever> lasserix: do i still need to do setContentView when things get restored from a save state?
Jan 20 12:04:54 <lasserix> umm i believe onstart will be called which is usu where setcontentview fires
Jan 20 12:05:09 <clever> ive always been doing it from onCreate
Jan 20 12:05:11 <lasserix> what i was saying is the data backing your listview probably needs to be requeried
Jan 20 12:05:14 <lasserix> err onCreate
Jan 20 12:05:25 <clever> this time, the listview itself didnt exist
Jan 20 12:05:33 <clever> probly because i skipped setContentView
Jan 20 12:05:37 <lasserix> yeah :)
Jan 20 12:05:43 <clever> 		if (sis == null) {
Jan 20 12:05:45 <clever> 			setContentView(R.layout.report_list);
Jan 20 12:06:34 <clever> lasserix: ok, half fixed now
Jan 20 12:06:43 <clever> it queries the server again when rotated
Jan 20 12:06:53 <clever> looses all state and just starts over
Jan 20 12:07:11 <lasserix> i believe you can use a non-ui fragment to hold state like that
Jan 20 12:07:38 <lasserix> depending on how costly the retrieval is
Jan 20 12:07:43 <clever> i was thinking of  onSaveInstanceState
Jan 20 12:07:59 <clever> its returning 100 rows, but i can probly change that to return less
Jan 20 12:08:10 <lasserix> oh yeah
Jan 20 12:08:43 <clever> just not sure if i should be saving 100 rows into the state, and there is the issue of how long it may wind up being paused
Jan 20 12:08:46 <clever> like if the user hit the home button
Jan 20 12:08:53 <clever> then the data will be out of date
Jan 20 12:09:31 <clever> with my current network bandwidth, it loads almost instantly
Jan 20 12:09:53 <marrrk> Hello! I have a service thread that I only want to run if the screen is on. What's the trick to achieve this or is it standard anyway?
Jan 20 12:11:25 <clever> lasserix: when using a ListView, how do i detect when i'm nearing the end of the list?
Jan 20 12:11:43 <clever> lasserix: could i just cheat, and wait for getView(90) to get called, or is there a proper way?
Jan 20 12:12:05 <clever> lasserix: i'm thinking of doing the server query to fetch more rows, as you near the edge
Jan 20 12:12:31 <lasserix> how often does the data change?
Jan 20 12:12:36 <SimonVT> That's pretty much it
Jan 20 12:13:01 <clever> lasserix: its basicaly a list of reports about things your doing in the game, but delayed by several hours
Jan 20 12:13:04 <clever> once the event finishes
Jan 20 12:13:09 <clever> or when somebody else attacks you
Jan 20 12:13:09 <SimonVT> Some put a view that says nothing but "Loading" at the bottom, when it's fetched, start loading
Jan 20 12:13:14 <clever> so it could change at any time
Jan 20 12:13:27 <lasserix> ^^SimonVT
Jan 20 12:17:35 <clever> just need to figure out how to properly combine the arrays then
Jan 20 12:18:03 <clever> need to decide how to tell the difference between 'more data' and 'start over'
Jan 20 12:18:34 <lasserix> at more data just reset the array with the last so many entries
Jan 20 12:18:40 <lasserix> otherwise you can simply append it
Jan 20 12:18:43 <clever> i wonder if i can just bump the page size up a ton, will the server care...
Jan 20 12:19:12 <clever> the request gives both parts of a limit clause
Jan 20 12:19:24 <clever> 01-20 08:19:14.873 31634 31634 V / Reports  list size:389
Jan 20 12:19:34 <clever> yep, the server doesnt enforce a 100 item/request limit
Jan 20 12:19:40 <Parhs> fuck
Jan 20 12:19:54 <clever> lasserix: i can probly just skip that whole mess and fetch everything!
Jan 20 12:20:04 <clever> (at the cost of network bandwidth)
Jan 20 12:20:28 <lasserix> better for the phone too
Jan 20 12:20:50 <clever> i plan to also add bandwidth logging, how many bytes every function consumes
Jan 20 12:21:01 <lasserix> you can also wrap it in a async task loader
Jan 20 12:21:18 <clever> its already got its own dedicated network thread
Jan 20 12:21:24 <lasserix> ahh ok
Jan 20 12:21:32 <clever> with handlers to pass things back and forth
Jan 20 12:21:44 <clever> all parsing gets done on the network thread, which then hands a simple array back to the UI thread
Jan 20 12:26:24 <clever> lasserix: biggest issue i have with the protocol, no long-polling
Jan 20 12:26:33 <clever> the server will respond to every request as fast as possible
Jan 20 12:26:47 <clever> so events wont be discovered until you issue a Poll request
Jan 20 12:27:03 <clever> which is bound to run up cell bills and run down batterys...
Jan 20 12:28:53 <lasserix> doesn't it notify its user if someone is plundering their mountain?
Jan 20 12:29:06 <clever> lasserix: city actualy, and yes
Jan 20 12:29:22 <clever> i just finished those notifications yesterday, also had to set it as a foreground service
Jan 20 12:29:30 <clever> netflix and facebook kept eating too much ram and killing it
Jan 20 12:29:38 <lasserix> cause if you get that, refresh otherwise let the user determine how frequently they want to refresh it
Jan 20 12:30:02 <lasserix> you can just use an alarmmanager and service intent
Jan 20 12:30:25 <lasserix> *intentservice
Jan 20 12:30:26 <clever> i'm not sure how long i can wait before the server thinks the client crashed and deletes the session
Jan 20 12:30:31 <clever> its meant to poll every second
Jan 20 12:30:41 <lasserix> oh
Jan 20 12:30:45 <clever> havent ran any tests on that part yet
Jan 20 12:32:29 <Mr_X> hi everyone
Jan 20 12:33:31 <Mr_X> i need some help in changing a time limit in a program i downloaded from the android marketoplace ok?
Jan 20 12:34:04 <Mr_X> meant marketplace
Jan 20 12:35:59 <lasserix> mr_x wrong channel but have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling it?
Jan 20 12:36:35 <Mr_X> android channel told me to come here about it
Jan 20 12:36:50 <Mr_X> its kinda programming thing i wanna learn on android 4.0.4
Jan 20 12:36:58 <Mr_X> ok lasserix?
Jan 20 12:37:21 <lasserix> you want to reverse engineer the app to change the time limit so you can use it without paying its developers?
Jan 20 12:37:44 <Mr_X> no its a free version app the way it is
Jan 20 12:38:17 <Mr_X> unless you can help me find a free app that will do exactly what i need
Jan 20 12:38:33 <lasserix> you can always write your own
Jan 20 12:38:42 <Mr_X> i dont know how to program yet
Jan 20 12:38:53 <Mr_X> that is the problem
Jan 20 12:39:45 <Mr_X> what im looking for is a program that will check for a blocked number then instantlky delete all received texts from the blocked # that are in the text messaging apps inbox instantly
Jan 20 12:39:53 <SimonVT> Unless you are going to develop an app, this is the wrong channel
Jan 20 12:40:26 <Mr_X> then what channel do you recommend
Jan 20 12:41:12 <SimonVT> None, I don't know any channels where decompiling play store apps is the topic
Jan 20 12:41:31 <lasserix> Mr_X I dont know what time limit you want to alter, but usually that involves some sort of reverse engineering of the software to modify the relevant code and then recompiling it and getting it to run correctly which requires some programming skill to say the least
Jan 20 12:41:31 <Mr_X> hows about finding one that does exactly what i need
Jan 20 12:41:40 <lasserix> that'd be #android
Jan 20 12:41:45 <Mr_X> ok
Jan 20 12:42:13 <Mr_X> well thanks just the same
Jan 20 12:42:23 <lasserix> you're better off to just pay for the no-time limit upgrade and move on with your life
Jan 20 12:43:14 <Waynes> I have to save a framebuffer before my application pauses but onPause doesn't let me do opengl stuff, what do to? (API level 8)
Jan 20 12:43:57 <Mr_X> thanks lasserix
Jan 20 12:45:39 <lasserix> hey goos did you see this one? http://gawker.com/5975736/ordinary-housecat-beats-professional-wealth-managers-in-year+long-stock+picking-challenge?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Jan 20 12:49:38 <spobat> hey
Jan 20 12:50:19 <spobat> I defined my Activity screenOrientation="landscape", but my phone accepts only one landscape mode - if I turn it by 180 degrees its still upside down :(
Jan 20 12:50:28 <spobat> I am using some opengl operations, if that matters
Jan 20 12:53:22 <SimonVT> Did you check the dev site for the flags screenOrientation supports?
Jan 20 12:55:19 <spobat> SimonVT, thank you :D
Jan 20 12:56:42 <clever> SimonVT: ive also run into very anoying problems related to that
Jan 20 12:56:48 <clever> SimonVT: the youtube app ignores the lock rotation switch
Jan 20 12:57:05 <clever> so i cant watch videos in bed, they always wind up sideways
Jan 20 13:02:20 <clever> SimonVT: do you know what causes that?
Jan 20 13:02:22 <StingRay_> clever thats just an advanced feature, it aligns to the orientation of your head
Jan 20 13:03:00 <clever> StingRay_: for most apps, i can just lock rotation, then turn it 90 and it stays
Jan 20 13:03:07 <clever> but not youtube and a few others
Jan 20 13:03:19 <StingRay_> take it up with the devs
Jan 20 13:03:36 <clever> just wondering what the cause could be, so i wont make any similar problems in my own app
Jan 20 13:03:50 <StingRay_> never lock orientation
Jan 20 13:04:00 <clever> lol
Jan 20 13:14:23 <mahawksid> hey i am stuck , need to get the unread missed call log.
Jan 20 13:14:23 <mahawksid> I get the log, but both the read and unread ones, i used CallLogs.Calls.IS_READ, it worked but only for API-14+ but i need some solution for API 10+
Jan 20 13:14:28 <mahawksid> Please help
Jan 20 13:14:38 <mahawksid> http://pastebin.com/1f8HhARs is the code snippet i used
Jan 20 13:19:19 <StingRay_> mahawksid sure there is a field/state in a field  for that
Jan 20 13:19:31 <StingRay_> like same in sms db
Jan 20 13:19:43 <StingRay_> state = 0,1,2 etc
Jan 20 13:20:49 <mahawksid> the problem is not that i do not know the state of IS_READ
Jan 20 13:21:18 <mahawksid> the problem is, i need a substitute for it, as IS_READ is not valid for api 10 to 13
Jan 20 13:21:25 <StingRay_> well llist all fields to see what it's changed to
Jan 20 13:21:36 <mahawksid> This code is working perfectly fine for API 14
Jan 20 13:22:02 <StingRay_> like i said, list all data so you can see what fields have changed
Jan 20 13:22:02 <mahawksid> how do i do that?
Jan 20 13:22:47 <mahawksid> Sorry, but i just started developing in android, and do not know much.
Jan 20 13:23:00 <Waynes> I want to save a framebuffer object when my application is exiting but I have to save it from my draw thread, how to do that?
Jan 20 13:25:43 <Anoia> Hi all
Jan 20 13:26:08 <Waynes> hi
Jan 20 13:26:09 <StingRay_> mahawksid you get column count and just get columnIndexName
Jan 20 13:26:19 <StingRay_> for all the columns
Jan 20 13:26:32 <StingRay_> also getString if you want value too
Jan 20 13:26:38 <Anoia> I;m writing a sync adapter for my application
Jan 20 13:26:39 <StingRay_> from your cursor
Jan 20 13:27:16 <Anoia> I can use setissyncable to provide a checkbox to allow sysncing once it's added, but how do I make it checked automatically?
Jan 20 13:27:37 <Anoia> or even so it's not optional but still provide the "sync now" button?
Jan 20 13:28:43 <StingRay_> Anoia could be lack of sleep, lack of experience, lack of coffee, or combo of all of them, but I dont understand your question at all
Jan 20 13:28:54 <StingRay_> :)
Jan 20 13:29:01 * StingRay_ off to make coffee
Jan 20 13:29:05 <Anoia> ok, I have all the framework to add a sync provider
Jan 20 13:29:08 <Anoia> which works
Jan 20 13:29:36 <Anoia> after it's been added, Android provides a "sync now" button in the accounts/sync settings
Jan 20 13:30:16 <Anoia> this is only available when I;ve called setissyncable, and MANUALLY ticked the box for that content provider
Jan 20 13:30:27 <StingRay_> ah now I understand that, yeah I aint got a clue sorry  :)
Jan 20 13:30:43 <Anoia> I would liek to make it syncable without having that option, or at least, making it ticked automatically
Jan 20 13:32:34 <Anoia> it's kinda' pointless to add the account without it syncing the primary content provider :)
Jan 20 13:37:21 <mahawksid> StingRay_: Actually what i want is, only to get the number Unread Missed Calls, and wish to display it on a livwallpaper, hence i just needed to get column count only. Rest i get only to confirm in LogCat.
Jan 20 13:38:15 <StingRay_> mahawksid either way you want to read the column names and data to see whats changed across versions so you can cope with it
Jan 20 13:38:58 <mahawksid> Ohk, i guess i got what u meant. Will give it a try.
Jan 20 13:44:55 <brx_> My app needs to establish the preffered Video Preview, I am currently using .getPreferredPreviewSizeForVideo(); however this member is only available > api 11
Jan 20 13:45:23 <brx_> I want to make the app support < api 11
Jan 20 13:49:25 <Quest> hi, its a bit long but will result in a good discussion benefiting others who have similar questions about freelancing.  would anyone like to discuss about this ? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14425126/freelancing-and-normal-job-in-php-java-and-android
Jan 20 13:49:36 <Parhs> Hello guys
Jan 20 13:49:41 <Parhs> onActivityResult is never called.. why ?
Jan 20 13:49:53 <Parhs> parent is singleTop
Jan 20 13:51:27 <brx_> Quest, your post was removed by the looks of it
Jan 20 13:51:40 <Quest> nevermind.
Jan 20 13:53:01 <Quest> http://pastebin.ca/2304848
Jan 20 13:56:44 <brx_> Quest, php is not necessary for an android developer. unless you are creating sites which require some intermediary between the app and the database from my experience
Jan 20 13:57:02 <Quest> brx_,  ok
Jan 20 13:57:33 <brx_> i wouldnt say im a php developer but I know enough to create simple apps that depend on some remote db
Jan 20 13:57:38 <brx_> and its not that difficult
Jan 20 13:58:22 <brx_> if you dont know any php at all them check out the w3schools tutorials you will learn a lot there about the fundamentals
Jan 20 13:58:34 <brx_> be back later
Jan 20 13:58:49 <Quest> thats not what i asked....
Jan 20 14:02:31 <Anoia> a follow up to my question earlier, the SetSyncAutomatically checks the tickbox, but doesn;t seem to agree with the description
Jan 20 14:24:46 <Quest>  what are the top f3 reelancer languages in regard to number of project available?
Jan 20 14:26:09 <clever> SimonVT: still there?
Jan 20 14:46:20 <misterli> Hi, any idea why it wont send a request? http://pastebin.com/MYg1VZw1  it works with a HTTP Post Debugging Software. URL is Correct. Output of the Webserver should be. It jumps in the Exception but without a Message in getMessage()
Jan 20 14:47:42 <clever> misterli: what about e.printStackTrace();
Jan 20 14:48:42 <misterli> NetworkOnMainThread...
Jan 20 14:48:56 <misterli> Okay. It seems that i cant run it in the MainUI Thread.. (in a Service?)
Jan 20 14:49:10 <StingRay_> on anything that is off the UI thread
Jan 20 14:49:29 <Looney> is there some app for collecting the logcat output of a device
Jan 20 14:49:40 <misterli> Okay. Ill put it in a ASyncTask
Jan 20 14:51:18 <clever> misterli: by default, Service's run on the UI thread
Jan 20 14:51:30 <Parhs> how to get a wrapped object with GSON ?
Jan 20 14:52:03 <clever> misterli: myself, i have a dedicated Thread for network (solves the issue of hitting the server with several concurrent requests, and gives me a place to off-load parsing replies)
Jan 20 15:01:18 <misterli> clever, thanks. Knew that. But i didnt know that HttpClient needs to be in an extra Thread. The Blocking is not the Problem
Jan 20 15:09:50 <StingRay_> on screen rotation i get the scroll position of a scroll view, and before the fragments return view, I set the scroll, that didn't work so added a postDelay of 10ms, that does work but there is a visual change, whats the correct way to do this ?
Jan 20 15:10:05 <clever> misterli: the problem is more, a user-experience safety
Jan 20 15:10:25 <clever> misterli: in older android, you could do blocking network on the ui thread, but the app would completely lock up
Jan 20 15:10:34 <clever> misterli: the exception is there to force you to do things right
Jan 20 15:11:04 <clever> misterli: ASyncTask is the simplest solution
Jan 20 15:13:13 <Parhs> helo i have this
Jan 20 15:13:36 <Parhs> {"MoveOrderResult":{"OrderClosed":true}}   how can i make it into a class ?
Jan 20 15:13:43 <Parhs> with gson?
Jan 20 15:16:17 <misterli> Would it even block in a Service?
Jan 20 15:16:46 <misterli> (Message: App is not responding) or would it just take longer to proceed the other stuff until the Blocking-Shit has been done?
Jan 20 15:17:05 <misterli> and.. would the blocking block other Apps/Services out of the Service too?
Jan 20 15:18:05 <clever> misterli: the service runs in the UI thread by default, so it will lock the whole UI
Jan 20 15:18:22 <clever> if your service is exposed to other apps, i dont know
Jan 20 15:18:28 <clever> havent looked into where that RPC runs
Jan 20 15:18:38 <misterli> okay, which means that the UI is the Thread which is been used by ALL Apps and Services
Jan 20 15:18:39 <pierpark> String rawFile = "name_of_file" .... how can I... R.raw.[whatever_the_string_name_is] ? As in.. String to... something ? :)
Jan 20 15:18:52 <misterli> and not by a single Thread for each app
Jan 20 15:19:04 <clever> misterli: every app gets its own process, and its own UI thread
Jan 20 15:19:30 <misterli> Okay thanks. :)
Jan 20 15:21:49 <misterli> by the way. Works in an AsyncTask. Thanks for the hint
Jan 20 15:24:34 <clever> in my case, i was already using a thread for Thread.sleep, so a second thread (via ASyncTask) was pointless
Jan 20 15:25:07 <pierpark> I'll rephrase... I know that I want to look up R.raw.sound_file ... but the way I know I want to use R.raw.sound_file instead of R.raw.sound_file_2 is because I have a tag available to me.... String tag = v.getTag().toString() which = "sound_file"... and I need to be able to take that String, and apply it to the R.raw.[my_string_which_was_"sound_file"] ... any ideas? String to resource
Jan 20 15:25:07 <pierpark> locator... ?
Jan 20 15:26:06 <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi, Im having some problems getting a popup window with multi select list working. My activity java file is: http://pastie.org/5722744 with the helper java being: http://pastie.org/5722750 - My xml for the activity is: http://pastie.org/5722746 with pop_up_window xml being: http://pastie.org/5722749 and drop_down_list_row xml being: http://pastie.org/5722748
Jan 20 15:26:34 <clever> pierpark: you could either have an if block, if (foo.equals("sound_file")) return R.raw.sound_file
Jan 20 15:26:43 <clever> pierpark: or maybe use reflection
Jan 20 15:26:56 <Waynes> pierpark: probably not the smartest way but you could use reflection to enumerate all static variables of R.raw and compare against their names (or put them all in a hashtable at initialization and perform a lookup later)
Jan 20 15:28:27 <pierpark> Thanks guys. I should probably re-work this a bit, on that note. I appreciate it.
Jan 20 15:29:18 <WhereIsMySpoon> Basically the icons shows up on the match_activity page but doesnt do anything when pressed
Jan 20 15:29:23 <WhereIsMySpoon> *icon
Jan 20 15:49:39 <Epilog> hi there
Jan 20 15:50:04 <Epilog> having a strange exception: 01-20 16:44:42.455: E/AndroidRuntime(9944): android.os.BadParcelableException: ClassNotFoundException when unmarshalling: foo.bar.activity.MatchArguments
Jan 20 15:50:15 <Epilog> the MatchArguments is a public class
Jan 20 15:50:29 <Epilog> that implements the parcelable and has a static CREATOR field
Jan 20 15:51:23 <k0nichiwa> android sh*t not working agin, ndk TARGET_PLATFORM doens't do anything ?? https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/android-ndk/QAXb_5cl3JI
Jan 20 15:51:44 <k0nichiwa> ugh well i should have assumed it wouldnt work, i guess ill jus tcopy the headers i need into my source directory
Jan 20 15:51:50 <Epilog> The MatchArguments class http://pastebin.com/y5M7WjXe
Jan 20 15:53:22 <Epilog> the exception: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=JGsVNxX6
Jan 20 15:53:24 <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi, Im having some problems getting a popup window with multi select list working. My activity java file is: http://pastie.org/5722744 with the helper java being: http://pastie.org/5722750 - My xml for the activity is: http://pastie.org/5722746 with pop_up_window xml being: http://pastie.org/5722749 and drop_down_list_row xml being: http://pastie.org/5722748 - Basically the icon shows up on the match_activity page but doesnt do
Jan 20 15:53:24 <WhereIsMySpoon> anything when pressed.
Jan 20 16:02:12 <StingRay_> I have a scrollview with various textfields (editText) and with nothing selected/focused rotating the screen seems to select on of those field, thus resulting in an undesirable position in the scroll, any info or ideas on why or how to prevent ?
Jan 20 16:02:42 <xorgate> what's the diff between a fragment's oncreate.Bundle and oncreateview.Bundle ?
Jan 20 16:08:47 <StingRay_> xorgate the time at which you can do something with them?
Jan 20 16:09:01 <StingRay_> other than that I dont think they are different
Jan 20 16:09:15 <xorgate> from what i understand it's the bundle from onSaveInstanceState
Jan 20 16:09:27 <StingRay_> yeah
Jan 20 16:09:34 <xorgate> but i'm getting null, maybe it's becaise of setRetainInsance(true)
Jan 20 16:09:44 <StingRay_> probably not
Jan 20 16:10:12 <StingRay_> if you put stuff onSaveInstanceState then it shouldn't be null
Jan 20 16:10:38 <xorgate> well it kinda is :(
Jan 20 16:10:44 <xorgate> maybe it's a bug in supprot lib
Jan 20 16:10:51 <StingRay_> I use support lib
Jan 20 16:11:06 <xorgate> i'm saving a string in onsaveinstancestate
Jan 20 16:11:27 <xorgate> if the fragment has setretaininstance(true) then the bundle is null
Jan 20 16:11:47 <xorgate> (on orientation change)
Jan 20 16:12:45 <StingRay_> oh orientation change
Jan 20 16:12:49 <StingRay_> maybe
Jan 20 16:22:44 <StingRay_> why does editText keep cursor and I presume focus even when you touch something else like a switch etc ?
Jan 20 16:28:49 <SimonVT> You're retaining the instance.. there's no need to save the state
Jan 20 16:29:34 <xorgate> but the views are reset because onCreateView is still called
Jan 20 16:29:50 <SimonVT> Yes, but it's still the same fragment instance
Jan 20 16:30:24 <xorgate> the i should store the values in member variables?
Jan 20 16:30:35 <SimonVT> That'd be a good idea
Jan 20 16:31:17 <xorgate> it all sounds a bit convoluted
Jan 20 16:31:28 <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi, Im having some problems getting a popup window with multi select list working. My activity java file is: http://pastie.org/5722744 with the helper java being: http://pastie.org/5722750 - My xml for the activity is: http://pastie.org/5722746 with pop_up_window xml being: http://pastie.org/5722749 and drop_down_list_row xml being: http://pastie.org/5722748 - Basically the icon shows up on the match_activity page but doesnt do
Jan 20 16:31:28 <WhereIsMySpoon> anything when pressed.
Jan 20 16:33:06 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon thats no question, thats a project :)
Jan 20 16:33:30 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: well it is a question, i just pasted all the relevant bits in case soem or more were needed
Jan 20 16:33:54 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: the problem is simple - the drop down list doesnt work
Jan 20 16:33:57 <WhereIsMySpoon> i just dont know why
Jan 20 16:34:42 <StingRay_> I think for a simple question all that info will put people off attempting to answer
Jan 20 16:34:46 <StingRay_> just a thought
Jan 20 16:35:09 <WhereIsMySpoon> oh
Jan 20 16:35:16 <WhereIsMySpoon> well, people ask for info when trying to solve a problem
Jan 20 16:35:17 <WhereIsMySpoon> soo
Jan 20 16:36:43 <k0nichiwa> anyone know in android how you can target android-8 yet build a shared library to load at runtime for android-10 ?
Jan 20 16:37:13 <k0nichiwa> target_platform should do it, i should just be able to define that in my enhanced shared lib android.mk
Jan 20 16:37:28 <k0nichiwa> but it doesn't work, its not finding the headers or libs it should for android-10
Jan 20 16:40:41 <k0nichiwa> i know, ill just edit the application.mk file for the app_platofrm, put in some ifeq's and ndk-build twice
Jan 20 16:47:18 <StingRay_> I really dont get this focus view crap
Jan 20 16:47:25 <StingRay_> really annoying
Jan 20 16:50:47 <StingRay_> no1 had focus problems with editText's before ?
Jan 20 16:51:12 <StingRay_> as in the view keeps focus and blinking cursor no matter what other elements get touched ?
Jan 20 16:51:29 <StingRay_> thus screwing up config changes ?
Jan 20 17:04:43 <deanclkclk> folks..I have a question
Jan 20 17:05:11 <deanclkclk> what if I have an app that's try to resume while having no internet access
Jan 20 17:05:13 <deanclkclk> is that possible?
Jan 20 17:06:59 <Pocket> Is inflating view really heavy than java code?
Jan 20 17:08:03 <Pocket> Some of my friend advice me for performance I should not use ViewInflater and I should create view by my self with Java hard-cording-UI.
Jan 20 17:08:44 <Pocket> But I can't believe that. Because I can't find any information or notion about ViewInflater.
Jan 20 17:12:23 <SimonVT> The performance difference is negligible, and certainly isn't worth it when you consider what you're sacrificing
Jan 20 17:13:49 <Pocket> thanks.
Jan 20 17:17:27 <k0nichiwa> chrome browser on 2.3 won't let me click the att wifi connect button at starbucks, is there a wokraround =) ??
Jan 20 17:17:38 <k0nichiwa> how annoying i wanted to test some http fetches here
Jan 20 17:25:59 <Loman> #c#
Jan 20 17:26:06 <Loman> mt
Jan 20 17:33:36 <gmag> hello, I am playing with the low level media api (MediaCodec object and friends...) and I am experiencing some issues on my hardware. I am trying to decode a H264 stream but the dequeueOutputBuffer() never returns a valid buffer index. It returns -1 instead, meaning that I should try again later. On he other hand everything works fine in a jellybean virtualbox
Jan 20 17:33:58 <gmag> any idea why this is happening on my hardware and working well in virtualbox
Jan 20 18:03:22 <iljo> hey, i'm trying to make a listview activity and i get source not found when i try to set adapter to said listview. i've searched all over stackoverflow but nothing helped... maybe someone here had the same problem and figured it out?
Jan 20 18:26:52 <Parhs> hello guys
Jan 20 18:27:03 <Parhs> i use ABS and i get tabs above title bar
Jan 20 18:27:21 <Parhs> hm with icon it works correctly
Jan 20 18:29:22 <sabton> hmm
Jan 20 18:29:41 <sabton> currently connected to moorcock.freenode.net
Jan 20 18:41:04 <pragma-> moorcock?  that's racist and sexist
Jan 20 18:42:41 <belgianguy> does anyone know a general purpose C/C++ IRC channel?
Jan 20 18:42:52 <belgianguy> I can't figure something out and I've been stuck for days
Jan 20 18:46:16 <funkbox> belgianguy: ##c++
Jan 20 18:46:20 <funkbox> just be careful
Jan 20 18:46:41 <funkbox> the only thing those people talk about is what is on topic in ##c++
Jan 20 18:47:23 <belgianguy> funkbox: oh, yeah, I bet as soon as they hear Android I'll get whisked off and they'll say they don't do Java
Jan 20 19:04:54 <WhereIsMySpoon> Im still trying to figure out this problem I have with my drop down list not working at all =/ anyone have any experience with drop down lists?
Jan 20 19:05:35 <canadiancow> ask a real question
Jan 20 19:05:59 <RobinJ> god damnit not again
Jan 20 19:06:12 <RobinJ> anyone knows a solution for those pain in the backside NPObject issues?
Jan 20 19:06:30 <RobinJ> it's just fucking ridicilous how broken the android api is
Jan 20 19:06:51 <canadiancow> in what way
Jan 20 19:07:07 <sabton> maybe dont use NPObject whatever that is
Jan 20 19:07:15 <RobinJ> ... i'm not using it.
Jan 20 19:07:24 <sabton> nice, problem solved
Jan 20 19:07:26 <RobinJ> it's making it into an NPObject, whatever that is.
Jan 20 19:07:26 <sabton> NEXT
Jan 20 19:07:36 <WhereIsMySpoon> canadiancow: ive asked my question in a full-blown thing with lots of pasties and someone told me to take the pasties out cause people would be scared
Jan 20 19:07:38 <canadiancow> ive never heard of NPObject
Jan 20 19:07:38 <WhereIsMySpoon> so wtf do i do
Jan 20 19:07:51 <canadiancow> you ask a real question
Jan 20 19:07:59 <canadiancow> dont ask an irrelevant qeustion
Jan 20 19:08:02 <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi, Im having some problems getting a popup window with multi select list working. My activity java file is: http://pastie.org/5722744 with the helper java being: http://pastie.org/5722750 - My xml for the activity is: http://pastie.org/5722746 with pop_up_window xml being: http://pastie.org/5722749 and drop_down_list_row xml being: http://pastie.org/5722748
Jan 20 19:08:05 <canadiancow> like "does anyone have any experience with [feature]"
Jan 20 19:08:12 <WhereIsMySpoon> ok then, that better?
Jan 20 19:08:15 <canadiancow> no
Jan 20 19:08:20 <canadiancow> you havent described any problem
Jan 20 19:08:26 <RobinJ> canadiancow, it's something the broken android api does to a javascriptinterface when it can't be bothered to do what it's told.
Jan 20 19:08:31 <canadiancow> "x doesn't owrk" is not somethihng i would botherl ooking at
Jan 20 19:08:34 <WhereIsMySpoon> the problem is that the icon shows
Jan 20 19:08:37 <WhereIsMySpoon> but when you press it nothing happens
Jan 20 19:08:51 <canadiancow> what icon
Jan 20 19:08:57 <WhereIsMySpoon> the icon i use for the drop down list
Jan 20 19:09:12 <WhereIsMySpoon> you're supposed to press it and the drop down list will appear
Jan 20 19:09:25 <sabton> i would have assumed list item icons
Jan 20 19:09:31 <sabton> good think he clarified
Jan 20 19:09:33 <sabton> *hing
Jan 20 19:09:34 <WhereIsMySpoon> :)
Jan 20 19:10:10 <canadiancow> ok i dont believe a word of anything you said
Jan 20 19:10:17 <canadiancow> that code won't even compile
Jan 20 19:10:38 <WhereIsMySpoon> canadiancow: er, what? it compiles fine for me
Jan 20 19:10:47 <canadiancow> final TextView tv = (TextView) findViewById(R.DropDownList.SelectBox);
Jan 20 19:11:01 <canadiancow> R.DropDownList ???
Jan 20 19:11:40 <WhereIsMySpoon> canadiancow: drop_down_list_row
Jan 20 19:11:42 <WhereIsMySpoon> teh xml
Jan 20 19:11:47 <canadiancow> no
Jan 20 19:11:51 <canadiancow> that's absolutely not eral code
Jan 20 19:11:56 <canadiancow> there is no way you are building an apk from what you pasted
Jan 20 19:12:11 <WhereIsMySpoon> canadiancow: i am and i have, i can paste the whole project to github if you want
Jan 20 19:12:22 <canadiancow> go for it
Jan 20 19:13:51 <f2prateek> wow that actually compiles :/
Jan 20 19:14:11 <canadiancow> no
Jan 20 19:14:44 <canadiancow> here is a comprehensive list of every inner class to R
Jan 20 19:15:03 <canadiancow> attr, bool, color, dimen, drawable, id, integer, layout, menu, string, style, styleable, xml
Jan 20 19:15:22 <canadiancow> well actually that may not be comprehensive
Jan 20 19:15:28 <canadiancow> but there is definitely no DropDownList
Jan 20 19:15:34 <canadiancow> 1. because there isn't
Jan 20 19:15:40 <canadiancow> 2. becuase it's called a Spinner
Jan 20 19:15:45 <f2prateek> there isnt't but i just ccopied his code         android:id="@+DropDownList/SelectBox"
Jan 20 19:16:15 <canadiancow> wat
Jan 20 19:16:17 <WhereIsMySpoon> this is supposed to be a custom spinner
Jan 20 19:17:17 <canadiancow> take out DropDownList
Jan 20 19:17:22 <canadiancow> and replace it with "id"
Jan 20 19:17:25 <canadiancow> like a normal person
Jan 20 19:17:52 <f2prateek> lol yeah then it doesnt work
Jan 20 19:18:13 <f2prateek> i was surprised to see that xml line not give any errors
Jan 20 19:18:59 <WhereIsMySpoon> canadiancow: https://github.com/Jarob22/final_year_frontend
Jan 20 19:20:24 <f2prateek> so is that supposed to be a feature? you can have custom inner classes for R?
Jan 20 19:20:34 <canadiancow> im not convinced of that
Jan 20 19:21:56 <f2prateek> canadiancow: this all I did https://gist.github.com/4580983
Jan 20 19:22:17 <canadiancow> so because aapt added code to R.java, you assume it's a feature? :P
Jan 20 19:22:38 <canadiancow> i can get aapt to put syntax errors in R.java
Jan 20 19:23:17 <f2prateek> lol well i guess its broken then
Jan 20 19:24:33 <WhereIsMySpoon> so, anyone able to figure out whats wrong so that the drop down list doesnt drop down?
Jan 20 19:30:40 <gmag> hey what do you guys suggest for communication over ethernet?
Jan 20 19:30:50 <gmag> I mean, something high level
Jan 20 19:31:06 <gmag> don't need to deal with sockets directly
Jan 20 19:32:33 <belgianguy> HTTP?
Jan 20 19:32:47 <belgianguy> and shuttle JSON or XML around
Jan 20 19:33:05 <p_l> HTTP when using brain-damaged networks
Jan 20 19:33:39 <gmag> maybe json should be the best
Jan 20 19:37:15 <canadiancow> protobufs
Jan 20 19:49:27 <pixelfire> hey guys, quick question, is there any disadvantage to using the support libraries vs regular libraries?
Jan 20 19:53:26 <wordToDaBird> I have an odd situation that I am in, and could use some expert assistance.  I am connecting to a secure server and the server is prompting me to download a file a pdf.  Because android has no support for viewing pdf's I find a library and creating my own pdfviewer.
Jan 20 19:54:42 <wordToDaBird> The problem I have is that I need to download the file and when I just use a regular webview without adding my own webviewclient the file is downloaded, but whenever I use my own webviewclient it is not.  My question is, is anyone aware of what I should be doing that I am not, or anything that could point me in the right direction.
Jan 20 19:55:37 <wordToDaBird> If I use my own webviewclient but have no methods in it, the file is still not downlaoded which leads me to believe there are etrics I am not handling.
Jan 20 19:56:16 <wordToDaBird> isn't* downloaded*
Jan 20 20:05:38 <iljo> hey, i'm trying to make a listview activity and i get source not found when i try to set adapter to said listview. i've searched all over stackoverflow but nothing helped... maybe someone here had the same problem and figured it out?
Jan 20 20:07:40 <canadiancow> stack trace or gtfo
Jan 20 20:15:57 <k0nichiwa> AAssetManager_fromJava ... doesn't seem to be defined in libandroid.so
Jan 20 20:16:24 <k0nichiwa> i did dlopen, dlsym, the other native asset stuff i need is there, i got an error on that one
Jan 20 20:18:50 <belgianguy> k0nichiwa: are you including #include <android/asset_manager.h>
Jan 20 20:18:50 <belgianguy> #include <android/asset_manager_jni.h>
Jan 20 20:19:04 <k0nichiwa> im dynamically loading it with dlopen
Jan 20 20:19:14 <k0nichiwa> so that i can run on both 2.2 where i have my own jni implementation to get assets
Jan 20 20:19:26 <k0nichiwa> on 2.3 and above i want to dlopen libandroid.so, dlsym to get my functions
Jan 20 20:19:39 <k0nichiwa> dlsym works on the other native asset manager methods, i seem to get anerror on that one
Jan 20 20:20:12 <Jonathan_Eyre>  I have two similar android ICS devices, one is transmitting data at 1.1Mps, and the other is transmitting around 20Mbps.
Jan 20 20:20:28 <Jonathan_Eyre> It looks like the slow one has had erorrs (or something), and has dropped to the slower speed.
Jan 20 20:21:02 <Jonathan_Eyre> Is there any way to tell 1) What speed is the USB actually tramitting at. 2) Are there any errors on the USB traffic?
Jan 20 20:21:26 <Parhs> http://i.imgur.com/U0DQQwB.png hello
Jan 20 20:21:36 <Parhs> how can i do this in android
Jan 20 20:21:39 <Parhs> which layout?
Jan 20 20:22:00 <k0nichiwa> maybe not, maybe its ok, it snot returning null but i got an error code
Jan 20 20:26:03 <belgianguy> hmm
Jan 20 20:26:19 <belgianguy> could I be getting segfaults by addressing sensors I don't have?
Jan 20 20:27:07 <belgianguy> my (very old) phone utterly crashes, and my tablet doesn't
Jan 20 20:27:28 <kbs> Using the 4.2 emulator GPU overdraw flag, I see a large block of overdraw like this http://i.imgur.com/Z82yvon.png , although I'm only drawing 3 lines in a Path. http://pastebin.com/D6c5m3Dm Is there a better way to handle this to avoid overdraw?
Jan 20 20:30:21 <Jonathan_Eyre> Is there a handy way to see what speeds the usb is transmitting at?
Jan 20 20:32:19 <k0nichiwa> belgianguy, i bet my fone is older than yours
Jan 20 20:33:45 <belgianguy> k0nichiwa: that might very well be the case :)
Jan 20 20:33:58 <belgianguy> mine's an Xperia X10 Mini Pro
Jan 20 20:36:52 <Parhs> i thought that apple sucked and was harder to install apps but struggling whole day to install apk to another phone
Jan 20 20:39:57 <kbs> fwiw -- think I discovered the source of my problem vis-a-vis overdraws using Path()s. It appears that when hardware accelerated, paths are rendered with a texture-map. So, it doesn't matter what's inside it -- the whole thing is probably overdrawn.
Jan 20 20:43:03 <k0nichiwa> moto droid 1
Jan 20 20:48:02 <k0nichiwa> perhs dont u just download the apk form the device ?
Jan 20 20:48:56 <Parhs> it didnt have sd card
Jan 20 20:49:00 <Parhs> now it has sd card
Jan 20 20:49:04 <Parhs> and cant connect to the pc
Jan 20 20:49:08 <Parhs> downlaoded from browser
Jan 20 20:49:13 <Parhs> he gets not installed...
Jan 20 20:49:28 <Parhs> i my device apk installs .. same android version
Jan 20 20:49:30 <k0nichiwa> u have to put the apk on a web server .. at least that sone way
Jan 20 20:49:35 <Parhs> i did
Jan 20 20:49:40 <Parhs> but i get now different problems
Jan 20 20:49:47 <k0nichiwa> on that device do you have selected install from other srouces ?
Jan 20 20:50:04 <Parhs> not sure
Jan 20 20:50:15 <Parhs> i dont have it in from of me
Jan 20 20:50:41 <k0nichiwa> you can only install fromt he marketplace
Jan 20 20:50:48 <k0nichiwa> untill you click that checkbox in settings
Jan 20 20:51:21 <Parhs> i think that i had checked it but i am asking him now to check it
Jan 20 20:52:14 <Parhs> it is checked
Jan 20 20:52:20 <Parhs> maybe because there is an older version there
Jan 20 20:52:32 <Parhs> i ll try unistall first
Jan 20 20:52:37 <k0nichiwa> there coudl be someting in the manifest, a requiremnt, that is not being satisfied
Jan 20 20:52:52 <Parhs> it could but it works in my device
Jan 20 20:53:01 <Parhs> same version , and at that device used to work
Jan 20 20:53:09 <Parhs> ok success
Jan 20 20:53:10 <Jonathan_Eyre> There really must be some sort of error going on with my USB slot on my Anroid's hardware. I've taken the wifi module out (with a soldering iron) and connected it to a USB Connector. When it is connected to a Windows Machine, my wifi module can run at nearly full N speeds.
Jan 20 20:53:11 <Parhs> few
Jan 20 20:53:35 <Jonathan_Eyre> When it is connected to the Android device, it recieves data at close to 1.1 Mbps.
Jan 20 20:53:38 <MajorZero> I want to implement a custom listViewadapter to contain items that receive information from a mysql db. Should I extend my custom adapter with a cursoradapter or should i use an arrayAdapter?
Jan 20 20:53:46 <Jonathan_Eyre> This is the "low-speed" for USB.
Jan 20 20:54:27 <StingRay_> MajorZero depends on how your going to get data from your mysql db
Jan 20 20:54:31 <Jonathan_Eyre> Since it is connected to an internel USB port on the Android's motherboard, it looks like the error has something to do with the USB.
Jan 20 20:54:46 <Jonathan_Eyre> Either a driver or a hardware error...
Jan 20 20:55:39 <MajorZero> Stingray, id I want to parse json data, what would be better?
Jan 20 20:56:06 <StingRay_> MajorZero custom arrayAdapter
Jan 20 20:58:12 <MajorZero> StingRay_ thank you! I was thinking of going that route before i read about the cursor adapter. Also should it be optimized if i implement a holder cache to inflate my object's beforehand or do you think it'll lag? And if so, should I look for an async solution?(Thank you very much for the advice)
Jan 20 21:00:13 <StingRay_> inflate ? you mean your views ? dont really need a cache as the listView takes care of recycling
Jan 20 21:02:09 <MajorZero> Oh ok. I was worried about optimization issues because my custom adapter is pretty much going to make each row a collection of about 3 views with a horizontal scrollview to navigate through them on the fly.
Jan 20 21:12:11 <Jonathan_Eyre> I see how there are statistic files for the wifi at /sys/class/net/wlan0/statistics... Is there a similar location for USB stats?
Jan 20 21:12:43 <dragorn> i'm not sure what usb stats you'd get
Jan 20 21:12:47 <dragorn> of that form
Jan 20 21:13:12 <Jonathan_Eyre> I just want to see what speed it is running at, and if there are any retransmission or errors.
Jan 20 21:13:32 <dragorn> do you mean a usb network interface?
Jan 20 21:13:39 <Jonathan_Eyre> Actually, I just want it to run fast, but I'm in debug mode, so I have to be more specific.
Jan 20 21:14:59 <Jonathan_Eyre> There are (apparently) 5 native usb endpoints on the Android device. One of these endpoints goes to a USB hub chip. This hub looks like it is running at 480 speed. Anther of these endpoints connects to a USB wifi module.
Jan 20 21:15:33 <Jonathan_Eyre> The wifi module works at plausible N speeds when snipped off the Android board and plugged into a Windows machine.
Jan 20 21:16:07 <Jonathan_Eyre> When connected to its native usb endpoint, it runs at 1.1Mbps speeds, which should be "low-speed" USB.
Jan 20 21:17:29 <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi, Im having some problems getting a popup window with multi select list working. My project is at https://github.com/Jarob22/final_year_frontend and the problem is that the icon for the drop down list shows but it doesnt do anything when pressed. Wondering whether anyone can please help :(
Jan 20 21:17:40 <dragorn> Jonathan_Eyre: watch dmesg when it enumerates a usb device
Jan 20 21:17:55 <Jonathan_Eyre> dragorn: Would I be able to do that with logcat?
Jan 20 21:17:58 <dragorn> Jonathan_Eyre: that will tell you the speed.  low, full, high, super...  you won't see super on android, that's usb3
Jan 20 21:18:04 <dragorn> no.  dmesg != logcat
Jan 20 21:18:12 <Jonathan_Eyre> dragorn: How do I watch dmesg?
Jan 20 21:18:12 <dragorn> you can do it via a shell though
Jan 20 21:18:21 <Jonathan_Eyre> okay, I'm game for that.
Jan 20 21:18:34 <Jonathan_Eyre> Do you tail it?
Jan 20 21:18:49 <Jonathan_Eyre> Hope not: Tail not found.
Jan 20 21:18:59 <dragorn> no; you just keep running it over and over again
Jan 20 21:19:03 <dragorn> it's a ring buffer
Jan 20 21:19:11 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon thats even worse, ppl will have to look through your project, attempt to get a feel, run it, god know
Jan 20 21:19:12 <Jonathan_Eyre> So where is this magical dmesg?
Jan 20 21:19:23 <dragorn> Jonathan_Eyre: it's a program.  run 'dmesg' in a shell.
Jan 20 21:19:25 <WhereIsMySpoon> jesus what do you want me to do
Jan 20 21:19:28 <Jonathan_Eyre> Wow, just typed it in...
Jan 20 21:19:28 <WhereIsMySpoon> T_T
Jan 20 21:19:37 <StingRay_> ask a question  lol
Jan 20 21:19:40 <WhereIsMySpoon> i am
Jan 20 21:19:45 <StingRay_> no
Jan 20 21:19:55 <WhereIsMySpoon> my drop down menu with multi select isnt working
Jan 20 21:20:00 <StingRay_> you saying fix my project, or worse, "whats wrong with this"
Jan 20 21:20:02 <WhereIsMySpoon> i dont know why
Jan 20 21:20:04 <dragorn> Jonathan_Eyre: that's the kernel message buffer.  You'll see USB enumeration, etc in there, as well as tons of other crap
Jan 20 21:20:13 <StingRay_> but this = your project
Jan 20 21:20:16 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: what do you want me to do? I dont know why it isnt working
Jan 20 21:20:22 <StingRay_> not like a snip or anything
Jan 20 21:20:24 <WhereIsMySpoon> if i knew, i wouldnt have to ask
Jan 20 21:20:37 <dragorn> WhereIsMySpoon: usually a good move is t paste the part of the code that isn't working into pastebin and refer to that
Jan 20 21:20:39 <StingRay_> isolate so it's clear to look at
Jan 20 21:21:26 <StingRay_> I've actually wanted to take a look 3 times at the info you pasted, but just keep giving up as I dont know what your attempting to do and where and with what
Jan 20 21:21:36 <StingRay_> and dont have time to go through it
Jan 20 21:21:42 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: activity java file: http://pastie.org/5722744 with the helper javafile  being: http://pastie.org/5722750
Jan 20 21:21:49 <WhereIsMySpoon> its prolly the helper file thats wrong
Jan 20 21:21:56 <WhereIsMySpoon> seen as thats the one im least sure about
Jan 20 21:22:02 <WhereIsMySpoon> teh xml is prolly fine
Jan 20 21:22:06 <WhereIsMySpoon> thats mostly trivial
Jan 20 21:22:15 <StingRay_> ok lets put it this way
Jan 20 21:22:22 <StingRay_> what does not work ??? just 1 thing???
Jan 20 21:22:35 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: the drop down menu does not activate when i press the icon for it
Jan 20 21:22:45 <WhereIsMySpoon> that is what doesnt work
Jan 20 21:22:46 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon is the icon just a button ?
Jan 20 21:22:57 <StingRay_> imageButton ?
Jan 20 21:23:02 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: yes
Jan 20 21:23:05 <WhereIsMySpoon> no, just button
Jan 20 21:23:12 <StingRay_> does it fire any event when you press it ?
Jan 20 21:23:18 <WhereIsMySpoon> nothing comes out of logcat
Jan 20 21:23:52 <StingRay_> and you have a log line in there just to say "hey I'm pressed"  ?
Jan 20 21:24:25 <StingRay_> as in whatever listener you have attached to that button
Jan 20 21:24:38 <StingRay_> has a log.d to say something
Jan 20 21:24:39 <StingRay_> ?
Jan 20 21:25:45 <WhereIsMySpoon> no
Jan 20 21:25:50 <WhereIsMySpoon> i should probably do that <_>
Jan 20 21:26:35 <StingRay_> you should
Jan 20 21:26:45 <StingRay_> then maybe you could ask a rather specific question
Jan 20 21:27:13 <Parhs> What should i use for preferenceS? Becausei got stuck..
Jan 20 21:27:30 <Parhs> In gingerbread although says deprecated i cant find anything else that works
Jan 20 21:27:57 <belgianguy> anyone ever used the NDK with the sensors API?
Jan 20 21:28:23 <belgianguy> atm my app doesn't crash, but the callbacks aren't executed (but I can read out the minDelay)
Jan 20 21:28:46 <belgianguy> the callback has a print statement in it that should put something in logcat
Jan 20 21:34:33 <Jonathan_Eyre> Looking on dmesg... It looks like the wifi is constantly switching on and off power saving mode.
Jan 20 21:34:50 <Jonathan_Eyre> This is during a file transfer...
Jan 20 21:35:12 <Jonathan_Eyre> Should it stay online the whole time, and turn on power saving mode when the file transfer is done?
Jan 20 21:42:45 <g00s> "Kyrgyz herders adore their cell phones, which they acquire by trading and keep charged with solar-powered car batteries. Though useless for communication—cellular service doesn’t reach the isolated plateau—the gadgets are used to play music and take photos." :O
Jan 20 21:43:46 <p_l> now send them solar-powered mesh wifi ;>
Jan 20 21:44:10 <p_l> and chromebooks modded for android dev. See madness ensue :P
Jan 20 21:44:19 <g00s> :)
Jan 20 21:57:50 <WhereIsMySpoon> ok ive redone everything to make it less weird, im getting an npe on line 6 of this pastie: http://pastie.org/5739870
Jan 20 21:58:04 <WhereIsMySpoon> i dont understand how thats possible as i can see in R that in id it has spinner2
Jan 20 21:59:25 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon so tis either spinner2 or dataAdapter that is null
Jan 20 21:59:39 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: how can it be dataAdapter? it's actually created the line before
Jan 20 21:59:47 <WhereIsMySpoon> and if that wouldnt work the error would be there surely?
Jan 20 22:00:20 <Sepho> Hi guys
Jan 20 22:00:51 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon well logic dictates then ? it's that spinner
Jan 20 22:01:03 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: but how? I can actually see it right here in my R
Jan 20 22:01:08 <myndzi> hey, i was trying to modify an xml file in a soft keyboard to experiment with different keyboard layouts
Jan 20 22:01:26 <myndzi> i managed to disassemble, modify, and reassemble, sign, etc. the package, but when i run the application i get force closes when i try to go to any submenus
Jan 20 22:01:27 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon R does not mean it's available to the current activity
Jan 20 22:01:32 <WhereIsMySpoon> oo
Jan 20 22:01:40 <Sepho> I was thinking to create a learning app. In this app I have a phone number as variable and I want to wait for incoming calls and then check if that number is my var number or not. What is better for this approach, use a service or broadcast reciver?
Jan 20 22:01:41 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: how do I check if thats the problem
Jan 20 22:01:42 <myndzi> what should i be looking into?
Jan 20 22:01:51 <StingRay_> it would need to be in the view that is current by setContent
Jan 20 22:02:01 <StingRay_> or downstream of it
Jan 20 22:02:18 <StingRay_> btw: see how much quicker this is when being specific  :)
Jan 20 22:02:22 <FrozenCow> is there a way i can reply to comments on google play? some people in the comments somehow presume i can
Jan 20 22:03:01 <FrozenCow> or is this not the right place to ask?
Jan 20 22:05:43 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: i do do setContentView(R.layout.main); in my onCreate in matchActivity
Jan 20 22:05:57 <WhereIsMySpoon> wait, would i need to do soemthing to do with setContentView with id?
Jan 20 22:06:10 <StingRay_> ok so spinner2 resides in the layout  R.layout.main  ?
Jan 20 22:06:50 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: spinner2 is a spinner inside match_activity which is inside R.layout.main
Jan 20 22:06:55 <WhereIsMySpoon> with id spinner2
Jan 20 22:07:21 <StingRay_> pastbin R.layout.main
Jan 20 22:07:43 <WhereIsMySpoon> er
Jan 20 22:07:45 <WhereIsMySpoon>         public static final int main=0x7f030004;
Jan 20 22:08:05 <WhereIsMySpoon> did you mean the xml?
Jan 20 22:08:11 <WhereIsMySpoon> for match_activity
Jan 20 22:08:16 <pragma-> FrozenCow: you can't reply to comments unless you're flagged as a "Top Developer"
Jan 20 22:08:24 <mdkess> Is here any difference between a ListView and a GridView with numColumns=1?
Jan 20 22:08:43 <pragma-> google claims to allow regular developers to reply to comments someday, but don't hold your breath
Jan 20 22:08:58 <StingRay_> wherever your using that spinner...i take it in an activity
Jan 20 22:09:29 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: yes, but do you want the .java or the .xml for that activity/
Jan 20 22:09:31 <WhereIsMySpoon> ?&
Jan 20 22:09:34 <WhereIsMySpoon> **
Jan 20 22:10:04 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon well the activity that has spinner2 in it I want the layout file that you using in setContent(****)
Jan 20 22:10:30 <pragma-> some so-called "Top Developers" are already getting in immature arguments with their reviewers; once every developer has the ability to reply to comments, the reviews are going to look like silly schoolyard fights
Jan 20 22:10:40 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: http://pastie.org/5740184 this?
Jan 20 22:17:36 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon  under your spinner2 finView line   add  if(spinner2 == null)Log.e("error","not view found for id" );
Jan 20 22:17:44 <StingRay_> then you will know it is spinner
Jan 20 22:18:10 <StingRay_> then whatever content findViewById operates in, you pretty much know does not have that spinner id
Jan 20 22:26:16 <belgianguy> canadiancow: are you familiar with the NDK?
Jan 20 22:29:20 <gmag> guys I need an android app listening to python clients, what do you recommend on the android side?
Jan 20 22:29:53 <gmag> by python clients I mean apps running in python language in remote PCs
Jan 20 22:30:11 <g00s> maybe protobufs
Jan 20 22:30:20 <pragma-> what does it matter what language the client is written in?
Jan 20 22:30:39 <pragma-> a protocol is a protocol
Jan 20 22:30:41 <gmag> pragma-, I dont know, just giving the more information I can
Jan 20 22:31:45 * gmag is reading about protobufs
Jan 20 22:33:41 <g00s> thats only the application layer
Jan 20 22:34:14 <p_l> g00s: it seems knowledge of network layers is lost because "everything runs HTTP" ;)
Jan 20 22:34:31 <g00s> :)
Jan 20 22:38:36 <gmag> g00s, what does that mean?
Jan 20 22:38:37 <g00s> hmm, my cancellation rate has gone up significantly in the past month. i wish there was some way of knowing why
Jan 20 22:39:04 <g00s> kinde like when you return something from amazon, and have a few choices
Jan 20 22:39:11 <g00s> (1) was defective (2) didn't like (3) etc
Jan 20 22:39:42 <g00s> also would be nice to know what phones the item was purchased from and cancelled from
Jan 20 22:39:55 <g00s> if i see everybody with a Foo model X cancel, there might be something to that
Jan 20 22:40:01 <p_l> gmag: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_layers
Jan 20 22:41:00 <g00s> oope, i was wrong, protobufs would be presentation
Jan 20 22:42:04 <p_l> g00s: well... technically mix of both, a bit, unless you're doing "REST" or REST-Style protocol, then it would be presentation only
Jan 20 22:44:28 <AlCapwn> when using the support package version of Notification.Builder, on Android 2.3, it doesn't show a notification count overlay on the small icon, is this a bug?
Jan 20 22:45:05 <AlCapwn> on older apis, you would do notification.number = 10, and it would show a red overlay with 10 in the status bar
Jan 20 22:45:52 <meck0> Hi! Are there design guidelines for how large the text size should be in e.g. a list? Have googled but not found any document yet.
Jan 20 22:46:24 <g00s> yeah, there are a few styles for that
Jan 20 22:46:29 <g00s> textAppearance
Jan 20 22:46:48 <AlCapwn> meck0: you could use something like ?android:attr/textApperanceLarge
Jan 20 22:47:10 <g00s> http://developer.android.com/design/style/typography.html
Jan 20 22:47:58 <AlCapwn> hmm...well it looks like it is a bug
Jan 20 22:50:51 <meck0> g00s, AlCapwn: thx for the tip!
Jan 20 22:59:02 <AlCapwn> is it possible to force Proguard to do its work on a debug build?
Jan 20 23:04:40 <g00s> AlCapwn: the only reason i can see for that … is so that you are under the 65k method limit :|
Jan 20 23:06:11 <AlCapwn> g00s: no, i just want to run it with proguard on so I can see if I have any problems
Jan 20 23:06:22 <AlCapwn> doing the whole signing and installing business takes a while
Jan 20 23:52:48 <phek> anyone know why eclipse won't let me replace my main activity file?  I'm trying to delete it and replace it with one that has a tablelayout instead of relative but when I recreate the file i get the same relativelayout with the same default helloworld text
Jan 20 23:56:16 <bankai_> if you've deleted the xml file and replaced it with another with different contents you probably need to clean your project
Jan 20 23:57:45 * phek ahh, yeah i bet that's what the problem is
Jan 21 00:00:38 <phek> nope delete > clean project > new file still gives me the same file
Jan 21 00:02:57 <bankai_> are you testing this by running your application ?
Jan 21 00:04:30 <Ologn> Broke 2 million downloads, cool
Jan 21 00:05:34 <phek> No, i'm just creating a new android project.  deleting the activity layout file which is automatically created (includes hello world text), clean project, creating a new activity file that is supposed be a tablelayout but instead it's the same relativelayout with the hello world text
Jan 21 00:19:40 <MajorZero> would it be possible for me to use a horizontal scrolling view pager, for individual listview items?
Jan 21 00:20:39 <WhereIsMySpoon> how to i transform http://www.mkyong.com/android/android-spinner-drop-down-list-example/ this into a drop down list which has checkboxes where you can select multiple items, such as for preferences etc
Jan 21 00:21:28 <WhereIsMySpoon> *do i
Jan 21 00:22:11 <WhereIsMySpoon> basicalyl some sort of custom spinner
Jan 21 00:27:56 <Parhs> is tablelayout deprecated?
Jan 21 00:30:27 <AlCapwn> Parhs: I don't recall it being marked as such in the docs
Jan 21 00:54:58 <romainguy> Parhs: no it's not
Jan 21 00:56:28 <belgianguy> romainguy: would you know any good resources on NDK wrt to usage of the Sensors API? The Google Groups I already posted to, but the internet seems to be quite low on information about this
Jan 21 01:05:00 <Jonathan_Eyre> I'm getting a strange compile error... error: out/target/product/generic/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/libdbus_intermediates/dbus-message.o: file is empty
Jan 21 01:05:12 <Jonathan_Eyre> Any ideas on how to recompile this file?
Jan 21 01:05:26 <Jonathan_Eyre> I REALLY hope I don't have to do a make clean.
Jan 21 01:09:31 <ron_frown> wrong channel
Jan 21 01:09:50 <ron_frown> I've found that trying to compile on osx
Jan 21 01:10:01 <ron_frown> works fine with appropriate dependencies on linux
Jan 21 01:10:28 <Jonathan_Eyre> How is android-dev the wrong channel for developing android?
Jan 21 01:15:09 <romainguy> Jonathan_Eyre: this channel is mostly about writing apps for Android
Jan 21 01:15:12 <romainguy> Jonathan_Eyre: check out the topic
Jan 21 01:17:59 <belgianguy> romainguy: is there a better place to find info on the NDK functions?
Jan 21 01:21:02 <belgianguy> I'll take that as an "I don't know"
Jan 21 02:08:28 <torger> how can I bind a pixel array of integer colors to a texture using the Android NDK?
Jan 21 02:15:41 <Mgamerz> Is there a way to make a dialog fragment persist through an intent launch?
Jan 21 02:16:26 <Mgamerz> Like, I have a dialog fragment that says 'Options' or 'Settings'. Settings opens a settings page from the system. But when I come back, the dialog has closed itself, and I want it to stay open (and only close when a broadcast receiver closes it)
Jan 21 02:33:53 <torger> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14431693/how-can-i-bind-a-pixel-array-of-integer-colors-to-a-texture-using-the-android-nd
Jan 21 02:34:19 <HorizonXP> hey, has anyone worked with the camera api?
Jan 21 02:34:34 <HorizonXP> i'm trying to figure out how values for the getTimestamp() function are determined
Jan 21 02:40:53 <Mgamerz> Spent the last 20 mins trying to figure out why my code wasn't doing anything and I was editing the wrong class...
Jan 21 02:41:45 <barque> I'm trying to use stagefright on apilevel-9 (Android 2.3.1) ... somehow... anyhow...
Jan 21 02:41:55 <barque> can anyone tell me what's the best/only way to do it?
Jan 21 02:42:12 <barque> of course, I'm trying to use it natively
Jan 21 02:42:20 <barque> (JNI etc.)
Jan 21 02:42:38 <barque> none of the header files are available :(
Jan 21 02:42:44 <barque> maybe those are for AL? and I need to use IL?
Jan 21 02:43:43 <Mgamerz> don't know what stagefright is
Jan 21 02:43:54 <barque> libstagefright, OpenMAX etc.
Jan 21 02:44:02 <Mgamerz> And I likely am not good enough at programming to help you.
Jan 21 02:44:18 <Mgamerz> sorry :/
Jan 21 02:44:19 <barque> it is (for all I know) available to apilevel-14
Jan 21 02:44:20 <barque> it's ok
Jan 21 02:44:25 <barque> hopefully someone will help me
Jan 21 02:44:36 <Mgamerz> stack overflow is... good sometimes
Jan 21 02:44:41 <barque> ok basically it's for decoding videos (e.g. h264) hardware accelerated
Jan 21 02:44:44 <barque> natively
Jan 21 02:44:47 <barque> so you can use the buffers etc.
Jan 21 02:44:51 <Mgamerz> nothing i've asked hs been useful
Jan 21 02:45:06 <Mgamerz> Yeah they added that in ICS right? Or at least some new codecs
Jan 21 02:45:11 <barque> it's available to Java through classes such as MediaCodec
Jan 21 02:45:16 <barque> or MediaPlayer and SurfaceTexture
Jan 21 02:45:20 <barque> yeah
Jan 21 02:45:35 <barque> MediaPlayer->SurfaceTexture->attachToGLContext etc.
Jan 21 02:45:43 <barque> GL_TEXTURE_EXTERNAL_OES or some such
Jan 21 02:45:51 <barque> and you can use your decoded video frame as a GL texture
Jan 21 02:45:54 <yoshta_> Can you use html5 webviews in Android with simple javascript/ajax to refresh the page often ie for my news section w/o any major problems? running smoothly?
Jan 21 02:45:58 <barque> do whatever you feel like etc.
Jan 21 02:46:02 <Mgamerz> I haven't got into GL's yet
Jan 21 02:46:07 <Mgamerz> err GL*
Jan 21 02:46:13 <barque> but all of that is Apilevel-14 and up
Jan 21 02:46:17 <barque> sadly
Jan 21 02:46:18 <Mgamerz> I jumped in right before gingerbread went out of style
Jan 21 02:46:24 <barque> some of it apilevel-16
Jan 21 02:46:36 <Mgamerz> fragments baffle me when im used to activities
Jan 21 02:46:47 <barque> basically what's available to me right now (apilevel-9) is MediaPlayer, but that's just render to screen :(
Jan 21 02:46:47 <Mgamerz> still trying to figure out how to use fragment manager... transactions...
Jan 21 02:46:53 <barque> I want the byte buffers to do crazy stuff
Jan 21 02:47:19 <barque> And I need the stuff in native (native or not I don't care, I need the raw pixels)
Jan 21 02:47:29 <barque> but decode hardware accelerated
Jan 21 02:47:37 <barque> I'm using libffmpeg right now, it's slow as dog crap
Jan 21 02:47:45 <barque> I mean , it's good enough for low res videos
Jan 21 02:48:00 <barque> like avi/mpeg4 with like ... 320x240 resolution
Jan 21 02:48:06 <barque> but what good is that? :/
Jan 21 02:48:28 <barque> so yeah I need to use OpenMAX AL or IL on apilevel-9
Jan 21 02:48:29 <barque> somehow
Jan 21 02:48:37 <barque> natively or not... hell I don't care
Jan 21 02:48:44 <barque> if it's in Java, I'll pass it back
Jan 21 02:49:10 <barque> so any one? please....? pretty please ...? :)
Jan 21 02:51:30 <bankai_> wow, wanna use the enter key a few more times? bloody hell ...
Jan 21 02:51:44 <barque> sorry about that
Jan 21 02:52:45 <Mgamerz> i do it all the time too
Jan 21 02:53:04 <Mgamerz> I wish wifi direct in android wasn't broken
Jan 21 02:53:07 <Mgamerz> that'd be pretty cool
Jan 21 02:53:54 <barque> Seriously, is no OpenMAX coding for Java or native supported at api-level9? am I really stuck with MediaPlayer render-to-screen or libffmpeg.so?
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