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Jan 23 03:05:54 <hip2p> I'm having an issue with order of events. I run a function that initiates an animation that changes a view. However, the code after the function call is run before the animation completes. Are there any links that explain the logic of this behavior?
Jan 23 03:06:37 <StingRay_> hip2p you would require an AnimationListener
Jan 23 03:06:38 <hip2p> I was hoping that the code after the function call wouldn't run until the function was complete
Jan 23 03:06:45 <hip2p> yeah that's what I use
Jan 23 03:06:47 <StingRay_> and override onAnimEnd
Jan 23 03:06:58 <StingRay_> or whatever it's really called
Jan 23 03:07:03 <StingRay_> or
Jan 23 03:07:13 <StingRay_> postDelay your other action
Jan 23 03:07:19 <StingRay_> with the same time as your anim
Jan 23 03:07:21 <StingRay_> :)
Jan 23 03:07:31 <hip2p> StingRay_ so instead of having the code below the function call, place it inside the onanimend
Jan 23 03:07:41 <StingRay_> yeah
Jan 23 03:07:47 <StingRay_> or postDelay like i said
Jan 23 03:07:50 <hip2p> yeah I could do that
Jan 23 03:07:54 <StingRay_> either or should work
Jan 23 03:07:58 <hip2p> alright thanks
Jan 23 03:10:59 <vuln> The $25 Google charges is for account to publish apps or for each app published in Google Play?
Jan 23 03:11:52 <StingRay_> acct
Jan 23 03:12:02 <StingRay_> then it's $400 for each app
Jan 23 03:12:13 <StingRay_> jk  :)
Jan 23 03:12:13 <g00s> :) that would actually solve some problems :)
Jan 23 03:12:38 <sabton> lots of problems
Jan 23 03:13:22 <StingRay_> like what problems ?
Jan 23 03:13:46 <StingRay_> rich cash expendable folks are the only ones to do apps ?
Jan 23 03:14:28 <g00s> StingRay_: well, $400 is steep; there is a middle ground like the MS store: upfront fee gives you X apps to publish, each app is N more
Jan 23 03:14:51 <g00s> it would greatly improve the quality of the market
Jan 23 03:15:10 <StingRay_> well for ppl like me that ditched a career that was worth lots to do this and with sinking finances...no.....no it would not be good
Jan 23 03:15:23 <g00s> StingRay_: we're in the same boat :)
Jan 23 03:15:43 <StingRay_> I bet your not as much and it hasnt been as big a jump
Jan 23 03:15:50 <StingRay_> jump = sys shock
Jan 23 03:15:59 <g00s> btw, how is your career change going :D
Jan 23 03:16:07 <StingRay_> crap atm
Jan 23 03:16:14 <StingRay_> :)
Jan 23 03:16:19 <g00s> same
Jan 23 03:16:20 <g00s> :)
Jan 23 03:16:38 <g00s> so maybe we didn't have such a good plan :P
Jan 23 03:16:57 <StingRay_> well i was never and never wanted to be a coder
Jan 23 03:16:59 <StingRay_> :)
Jan 23 03:17:12 <StingRay_> thats why I chose art/tech
Jan 23 03:17:20 <StingRay_> but now look at me
Jan 23 03:17:29 <StingRay_> I think I'm almost a coder
Jan 23 03:18:01 <sabton> StringRay_ see your point but let's not get crazy, $400 can be acquired by more than just "rich cash expendable" folks :)
Jan 23 03:18:13 <g00s> StingRay_: if you do art, maybe it would be beneficial to work with an app dev firm doing graphics design or something
Jan 23 03:18:19 <sabton> $400 is nothing in the grand scheme of startup costs
Jan 23 03:18:44 <StingRay_> g00s I do/have done   film VFX and console game art
Jan 23 03:18:52 <g00s> thats awesome
Jan 23 03:18:56 <StingRay_> graphics design would just mind numb me
Jan 23 03:19:02 <g00s> :(
Jan 23 03:19:29 <g00s> well, i'm sure there must be a market for indie game devs that want artwork done
Jan 23 03:20:02 <g00s> lots of guys that are great with the game engines / nifty algos aren't much good at the artwork, but of course it needs to be done
Jan 23 03:20:07 <StingRay_> well I'm close to the acceleration point with my app framework
Jan 23 03:20:37 <g00s> inflection point :P
Jan 23 03:20:42 <StingRay_> when thats done I should be able to get lots of nifty artistically pleasing apps done
Jan 23 03:20:43 <g00s> dont accelerate too fast XD
Jan 23 03:21:01 <StingRay_> all the apps that I want that havent been done
Jan 23 03:21:05 <StingRay_> :)
Jan 23 03:22:44 <tona> hello
Jan 23 03:22:53 <g00s> looks like Larry took some heat for the poor N4 supply woes
Jan 23 03:22:58 <g00s> i have a solution to this problem
Jan 23 03:23:16 <g00s> no googler gets a new nexus device until the wait time / queue is 0
Jan 23 03:23:17 <tona> i am trying to run one application done in sdk android software but it  ask me for a target is there one way to select it,
Jan 23 03:24:59 <StingRay_> how do i check for a table in sqlite exists b4 creation cursor for it and it throwing and exception ?? :(
Jan 23 03:25:03 <g00s> tona: maybe you haven't installed an android target ?
Jan 23 03:25:15 <g00s> run android tool to see what you have, and grab stuff
Jan 23 03:25:42 <tona> can you be more specific i am new with it
Jan 23 03:25:50 <g00s> StingRay_: why would you query a table that may not exist :P
Jan 23 03:26:21 <StingRay_> well onUpgrade I had the amzing idea to just read all records
Jan 23 03:26:22 <g00s> you can say something like CREATE TABLE IF NOT EXISTS
Jan 23 03:26:28 <StingRay_> so I dont loose them
Jan 23 03:26:47 <StingRay_> cept not too bright if that happens b4 (a new) table is created
Jan 23 03:27:30 <tona> i connect my adroid directly usb and my target android is empty, how can i run my apps
Jan 23 03:28:01 <g00s> tona: you didn't read the docs
Jan 23 03:28:09 <StingRay_> tona you have enabled debugging on the phone/device ?
Jan 23 03:28:25 <tona> ok
Jan 23 03:31:11 <tona> ok i run my apps thanks
Jan 23 03:51:11 <tona> one question run first tiime but it not working anymore, i tried to enable again debugger usb but it ask me for a drivers
Jan 23 03:51:37 <tona> what drivers should i install
Jan 23 03:55:08 <StingRay_> tona should find and install them if it did 1st time
Jan 23 03:55:21 <StingRay_> unless you A) removed them  or B) have a crappy OS
Jan 23 03:55:32 <StingRay_> windows right :)
Jan 23 03:55:39 <cooldman224> forever
Jan 23 03:56:06 <StingRay_> ugly and bloated
Jan 23 03:58:59 <tona> the first time run perfectly but second and third time never run
Jan 23 03:59:06 <tona> how can i run my apps again
Jan 23 03:59:18 <tona> i enable and diable several times debugger usb
Jan 23 04:00:03 <tona> lge android net  mtp device error device unplug
Jan 23 04:00:10 <tona> this is my error
Jan 23 04:00:14 <tona> how can i fix it
Jan 23 04:00:35 <StingRay_> "google"
Jan 23 04:03:56 <tona> i am doing it
Jan 23 04:07:42 <lasserix> tona: you using physical device? make sure the cord is well put, I have lots of problems connecting various devices simply because of the cable coming loose of one side of the phone connector
Jan 23 04:30:16 <StingRay_> is there some trick to setting compound drawables on a button ?
Jan 23 04:30:58 <StingRay_> my drawable seems to be...well ... not all that "draw"able
Jan 23 04:33:54 <StingRay_> oh boundaries
Jan 23 04:33:58 <StingRay_> interesting
Jan 23 04:41:53 <tona> hello
Jan 23 04:41:55 <tona> again
Jan 23 04:42:06 <tona> how can i download market android i have ics
Jan 23 04:44:36 <chrisryn> what is the best way to retain data in an app other than database as it will be very small amount of data
Jan 23 04:45:17 <dragorn> sharedprefs
Jan 23 04:45:23 <dragorn> or just write it to files
Jan 23 04:47:10 <chrisryn> shared prefs sounds like what i want of to google  trying to get the hang of java coming from vb.
Jan 23 04:47:13 <chrisryn> thans dragorn
Jan 23 05:15:51 <KNERD> If ANT is an apache item, then why is there an ANT DEBUG for android ?
Jan 23 05:18:50 <snowinferno> Hi all, my project won't compile and in the Problems tab I literally see nothing but "R cannot be resolved to a variable" and "R cannot be resolved to a type" under Errors. What are some of the common causes of this?
Jan 23 05:49:29 <ron_frown> oi oi oi
Jan 23 05:57:09 <mag> I apologize for the stupid newbie questions but...
Jan 23 05:57:18 <mag> I can't even run the basic helloworld tutorial
Jan 23 05:57:40 <mag> on the avd or my phone
Jan 23 05:58:09 <mag> avd works fine, i can click buttons & it works but I can't get the app to run on it
Jan 23 05:58:14 <mag> anybody have time for this?
Jan 23 05:58:29 <ron_frown> compilation errors?
Jan 23 05:58:37 <ron_frown> and kill adb and restart it
Jan 23 05:58:39 <mag> don't think so
Jan 23 05:58:51 <mag> in fact, none of the links in the eclipse window work
Jan 23 05:58:57 <mag> in the welcome page
Jan 23 05:59:13 <mag> tried killing everything
Jan 23 05:59:15 <mag> no change
Jan 23 05:59:32 <mag> this is on ubuntu 10.04
Jan 23 06:00:33 <mag> i'm using eclipse from the adt bundle
Jan 23 06:01:44 <ron_frown> poopclipse
Jan 23 06:01:46 <squ> I have just sent my first sms via java :)
Jan 23 06:01:53 <mag> heh
Jan 23 06:01:58 <squ> with programming skills :)
Jan 23 06:02:23 <mag> i can't even run helloworld :-/
Jan 23 06:02:52 <ron_frown> doesnt run isnt good enough for a question
Jan 23 06:03:17 <Syzygy_> I have an activity that's .finish()-ed, but when I send a new intent for that activity all the values from that activity remain. how can I get rid of those values?
Jan 23 06:03:18 <mag> well, i follow the tutorial step for step
Jan 23 06:03:35 <ron_frown> intent flags
Jan 23 06:03:38 <ron_frown> such as new_task
Jan 23 06:03:41 <ron_frown> or whatever
Jan 23 06:03:52 <Syzygy_> the old one is erased from memory in that case?
Jan 23 06:04:04 <ron_frown> gc is guarenteed to happen immediately
Jan 23 06:04:08 <mag> I open the AndroidManifest.xml of my project from file menu
Jan 23 06:04:09 <ron_frown> new task is a new task
Jan 23 06:04:28 <Syzygy_> that doesn't mean that the old one is purged though
Jan 23 06:04:32 <mag> then from run tab, select 'Run As..' 'Android App'
Jan 23 06:05:03 <mag> then run and nothing change
Jan 23 06:05:21 <mag> i think eclipse is horked.  none of the links in the welcome page work/do anything
Jan 23 06:09:12 <Syzygy> ron_frown, FLAG_ACTIVITY_NEW_TASK  doesn't show up in the constants for Intent, even though it's supposed to according to the documentation
Jan 23 06:09:25 <Syzygy> I tried the constant value and unsuprisingly it's not working
Jan 23 06:09:28 <ron_frown> maybe its deprecated
Jan 23 06:09:46 <ron_frown> or your target sdk is too low
Jan 23 06:10:09 <snowinferno> Hi all, my project won't compile and in the Problems tab I literally see nothing but "R cannot be resolved to a variable" and "R cannot be resolved to a type" under Errors. What are some of the common causes of this?
Jan 23 06:10:26 <ron_frown> not an android project, or you need to clean
Jan 23 06:10:28 <ron_frown> rebuild
Jan 23 06:10:54 <snowinferno> ron_frown: already cleaned and rebuilt, definitely is an android project
Jan 23 06:10:56 <ron_frown> r is a class that gets generated by aapt during your automatic compilations in adt
Jan 23 06:11:07 <Syzygy> ron_frown, added in API level 1 and not deprecated according to the doc.
Jan 23 06:11:13 <ron_frown> weird
Jan 23 06:11:51 <Syzygy> snowinferno, if you had an error in your project and tried to clean sometimes R is deleted and not rebuild because if you have errors in your project R simply won't get generated.
Jan 23 06:12:18 <Syzygy> try to fix all errors (including R can not be resolved) and then clean/rebuild
Jan 23 06:12:47 <ron_frown> I've yet to see something like that in intellij too btw
Jan 23 06:12:51 <ron_frown> that could be a potential solution
Jan 23 06:12:55 <snowinferno> Syzygy: yes, but the problem is what is the error? The only thing showing up in the problems tab is that R cannot be resolved, which as far as I know is because the project can't compile for some inexplicable reason. R is an automatically generated file, so I can't exactly fix it
Jan 23 06:14:38 <Syzygy> The error right now is that R can not be accessed because the R file doesn't exist. Try removing all references to R (put them in comments, along with everything that throws errors), then rebuild, that should generate a new R file. Then you can reintroduce all references to R
Jan 23 06:14:47 <Syzygy> I know it's BS, but that's how it is.
Jan 23 06:15:47 <snowinferno> Well, this is interesting, the R file is under a different package name than the rest of my project
Jan 23 06:16:29 <Syzygy> I'm still looking for a way to purge an old activity and starting a fresh one.
Jan 23 06:17:30 <snowinferno> Syzygy: are you using a new Intent or do you have a variable defined for the Intent and are reusing the variable?
Jan 23 06:17:44 <Syzygy> new intent
Jan 23 06:18:04 <Syzygy> Intent intent = new Intent(this, GameActivity.class);
Jan 23 06:18:48 <snowinferno> hmm that was unfortunately the only thing I could think of
Jan 23 06:19:41 <snowinferno> aaaand now that R is being generated with the correct package (silly refactor didn't catch everything it was supposed to) I no longer get the R cannot be resolved problem
Jan 23 06:20:00 <Syzygy> maybe I can do some onDestroy magic so that everything will need to reinitialize
Jan 23 06:20:49 <progzer> Don't have your answer Syzygy, but I was reading a bit about a deprecation warning in a service's onStart method. The onStartCommand is to be used instead which receives a unique ID identifying which intent it is and you can dismiss the old call accordingly.
Jan 23 06:21:37 <progzer> Maybe android.app.Service.START_NOT_STICKY might give you a line of thought/research.
Jan 23 06:22:20 <progzer> Anyway, I'm looking to access the Android gallery or photo picker from a native (cocos2d-x) app. Any ideas on that?
Jan 23 06:22:22 <Syzygy> I'll look into it.
Jan 23 06:23:30 <stiki> I'm having an issue with LayoutInflater
Jan 23 06:23:45 <stiki> I'm not sure what to use as the Context.
Jan 23 06:24:05 <stiki> I'm calling the LayoutInflater from a class.
Jan 23 06:24:14 <stiki> LayoutInflater vi = (LayoutInflater) TimeZonesList.this .getSystemService.(Context.LAYOUT_INFLATER_SERVICE);
Jan 23 06:24:54 <stiki> The TimeZoneList is not correctly referenced as it doesn't exist anywhere else in the sample code.
Jan 23 06:25:05 <stiki> I'm not sure what to replace it with.
Jan 23 06:25:08 <MajorZero> I have a viewPager with 3 different layouts. One layout is a listView with an adapter to give it items through an activity.Basically I use this activity to give the listView its items. How can I set the PagerAdapter of the ViewPager to do the same?
Jan 23 06:25:34 <MajorZero> it only sets to the layout but the layout is empty because I havn't been able to call an intent of my activity that gives my listview items
Jan 23 06:30:37 <Syzygy> oh god, my game is so bugged D:
Jan 23 06:32:26 <Syzygy> when moving my player sometimes teleports to a random position for no reason, highscores are written 4 times for some reason.
Jan 23 06:32:27 <MajorZero> keep on chuggin in there bud
Jan 23 06:39:37 <ron_frown> I need something that pretty much equivalent to a very simple data store
Jan 23 06:39:42 <ron_frown> not sqlite
Jan 23 06:40:13 <Leeds> csv?
Jan 23 06:41:14 <ron_frown> hmm
Jan 23 06:41:30 <ron_frown> maybe I'll just open a file and use bson or something like it to store objects
Jan 23 06:43:03 <Syzygy> http://pastie.org/5828622 can someone tell my why this leaves 3-6 entries into my highscores? (6 being max)
Jan 23 07:13:54 <lasserix> syz are you missing else conjuctions there?
Jan 23 07:16:53 <lasserix> random results can be some sort of noise entering somewhere when you process the user input to move, dunno about why it'd call high scores though
Jan 23 07:28:10 <tagrudev> hello, I have sherlock tabbar with several, tabs in it, is it possible to control multiple activities from that tabbar and if so how "?
Jan 23 07:28:41 <skyred> Can I use SyncAdapter without using ContentProvider?
Jan 23 07:37:08 <JakeWharton> tagrudev: no
Jan 23 07:37:11 <JakeWharton> it is not possible
Jan 23 07:37:57 <tagrudev> JakeWharton, I see now (headbang) tried to do that yesterday
Jan 23 07:38:12 <tagrudev> JakeWharton, the way it is done is by extending SherlockFragmentActivity
Jan 23 07:38:18 <tagrudev> am I right ?
Jan 23 07:38:34 <tagrudev> if so can you point me out to a simple example or maybe a tutorial on how it is done
Jan 23 07:38:49 <JakeWharton> there is no way to have multiple activities with the action bar tabs
Jan 23 07:40:14 <tagrudev> JakeWharton, so any suggestions ?
Jan 23 07:40:32 <JakeWharton> i have no idea what you're trying to do
Jan 23 07:40:35 <JakeWharton> maybe use fragments
Jan 23 07:41:48 <tagrudev> basically I want't to have a tab bar which controlls Contacts, About, News and stays on top all the time
Jan 23 07:42:27 <tagrudev> JakeWharton, ^
Jan 23 07:42:36 <JakeWharton> use fragments
Jan 23 07:48:11 <tagrudev> JakeWharton, example of doing that ?
Jan 23 07:48:34 <JakeWharton> http://developer.android.com/guide/components/fragments.html
Jan 23 07:48:38 <JakeWharton> there's a bunch in the SDK samples
Jan 23 07:50:30 <Udmurt> Hi! Is there any chance to find example of working broadcast receiver for android.intent.action.PROVIDER_CHANGED? (I need for ContactsProvider)
Jan 23 08:31:17 <w32stuxnet> hi all
Jan 23 08:32:01 <w32stuxnet> anyone have a quick tip for me on how to predefine a layout of a specific size, then repeatedly programmatically fill it up with information and add it to the layout?
Jan 23 08:33:30 <timroes> you mean like a list?
Jan 23 08:34:46 <w32stuxnet> er, nope. I am aware I could use a ListView, and I have implemented it before. But I want to just add numerous child layouts with custom contents
Jan 23 08:35:04 <w32stuxnet> would a custom listview be the easiest way to do it?
Jan 23 08:35:12 <timroes> listview is always custom :)
Jan 23 08:35:21 <timroes> you define the view of each item in your adapter
Jan 23 08:35:29 <timroes> and ofc you can put in there anyview you would like
Jan 23 08:35:34 <timroes> any layout
Jan 23 08:53:59 <Syzygy_> I made some screenshots with my phone, edited them and now when I want to display them they won't fit on the screen (I didn't change the size. what should I do for them to match the screen size?
Jan 23 08:54:32 <Syzygy_> android.layout_width="fill_parent" or "wrap_content" doesn't work
Jan 23 08:58:30 <\0x90\> hey people a question. i need a service that will do network operations get data, then update activity. i could do this by binding a service to an activity and passing back data to activity, or running a service and writing into sqllite database, and on activity reading data from database
Jan 23 08:59:06 <\0x90\> the service needs to run constantly getting data every 5 minutes and writing every 5 minutes. activity needs to be refreshed every 5 minutes
Jan 23 09:02:09 <p_l> I'd use kinda both
Jan 23 09:02:29 <p_l> namely, service would write *and* read from database, and Activity would bind to service
Jan 23 09:03:12 <\0x90\> yeah was just thinking about it even if i write to db i would still need to read it.. from service
Jan 23 09:03:39 <p_l> database as way to cache results (and possibly do time series?), Activity for UI
Jan 23 09:06:29 <\0x90\> well, actually if i attach an activity to service and make service fetch data and report results to an activity then i don't need db. bbecause thing is.. i'll have a lot of data (refreshing every 5 minutes)
Jan 23 09:07:03 <\0x90\> and don't want to have a huge database since i don't need 'history' .. of that data.
Jan 23 09:07:31 <minikomi> hi there
Jan 23 09:07:38 <\0x90\> so might just as well skip database... and just attach the activitty to a service.
Jan 23 09:08:48 <minikomi> If I have a view which must communicate with a remote API, on the result of some event, is there a way to group events which happen too close together so as to avoid too much communication?
Jan 23 09:09:01 <minikomi> eg. get new info if > 200 ms has passed since last event
Jan 23 09:11:06 <Udmurt> \0x90\, why do you need service if you have activity?
Jan 23 09:12:07 <\0x90\> Udmurt,  i need a service because i have 10-20 data sources that my app connects to and fetches data "all the time". that data need to be parsed and displayed in a activity
Jan 23 09:12:19 <\0x90\> even when the aplication is "closed"
Jan 23 09:12:33 <\0x90\> notifications need to work
Jan 23 09:12:42 <\0x90\> so service still need to do its job
Jan 23 09:12:53 <Udmurt> in this case yes
Jan 23 09:13:56 <Udmurt> You may not bind service to activity, you can send intent to your activity when service done load data
Jan 23 09:14:18 <Udmurt> or use content observer
Jan 23 09:15:00 <\0x90\> activity needs to be refreshed when new data arrive
Jan 23 09:15:27 <\0x90\> the activity will be like a "dashboard" of sorts.. it needs to be interactive refreshing based on new data, while opened.
Jan 23 09:16:41 <Udmurt> I think use of cursor with database and content observer is best in this case
Jan 23 09:17:06 <Udmurt> register it in onResume of activity and unregister in onPause
Jan 23 09:17:29 <Udmurt> so only when activity is active it refresh data
Jan 23 09:20:37 <\0x90\> hm. wasn't aware of this contentobserver thing. ok, yes, might just go with database/content observer
Jan 23 09:22:09 <Udmurt> If you have not much data you still may send it with intent
Jan 23 09:26:49 <\0x90\> don't have much in .. size, but have many different 'servers' to which i connect and issue multiple commands for many different types of data which i need to parse per server. if user wants it.
Jan 23 09:27:00 * capella too way too long to look for and find this http://androidxref.com/source/
Jan 23 09:46:19 <memoryleak> I'm using the 4.2 Emulator on Mac OS, but tried with 4.1 on a S3 too: NullPointerExceptions that are thrown aren't shown neither in log nor in the debugger, the application just quits silent. What could cause this?
Jan 23 09:49:10 <pierpark> Friggin' Comcast P.O.S. :/
Jan 23 09:49:24 <pierpark> Alrighty, so I'm back. Yay me. Bet everyone is asleep.
Jan 23 09:51:30 <pierpark> Question-- I'm looking for concept ideas here... Looking to implement a 'popup' message but I'd like to just... design the exact look of that popup... Trying to get ideas for the best way to do this, because I don't want an actual "dialog"... I'd rather have like... an ImageView center screen containing the graphical 'popup', and achieve the same effect as a popup window.. Any ideas on
Jan 23 09:51:30 <pierpark> how this is actually done, before I go trying to set the light gray overlay across the other content and try to make an ImageView visible, in attempt to 'appear' authentic... ?
Jan 23 09:52:21 <pierpark> Or, perhaps, a borderless/buttonless PopupDialog window (if possible) and load in my XML content, which would contain the ImageView ... ?
Jan 23 09:52:35 <lasserix> Use a framelayout as the parent of whatever holds your non pop-ui, change visibility or add and remove it from the frame
Jan 23 09:52:59 <lasserix> Though if you are going for authentic, just use a popup window?
Jan 23 09:53:23 <BrixSat> Hello
Jan 23 09:54:24 <BrixSat> Im having an issue with videoview where it plays some videos at a variable speed due to TBN (Stream #0.0: Video: mpeg4 (Simple Profile), yuv420p, 800x600 [PAR 1:1 DAR 4:3], 25 tbr, 50 tbn, 25 tbc) being higer than tbc is there any way to avoid it?
Jan 23 09:54:24 <BrixSat> )=
Jan 23 09:54:53 <pierpark> Thanks, lasserix. I'm going for the 'proper' or 'most commonly used' method to achieve a 100% graphical popup message, so that it fits the UI rather than disrupt the flow by using the default theme's window to display my message.
Jan 23 09:55:25 <lasserix> You can use toast if you don't need to prompt the user
Jan 23 09:55:28 <lasserix> *custom toast
Jan 23 09:55:31 <Leeds> pierpark: are you already drawing your entire UI without standard widgets?
Jan 23 09:57:20 <push[RAX]> I have a working TabHost and tabs inside a TabActivity. Is it possible to add a TextView on top of them ? Somehow I can't find where to put that TextView in the layout without making the app crash
Jan 23 09:58:06 <pierpark> Leeds: I've tweaked the defaults... Give me two seconds so you can just 'see' it... Such as adding rounded corners to my list, etc. I'm just looking for a cooler popup window. Just wanted to take the best approach before I take a step. http://lifeofchance.com/android-dev.png <-- should be it.
Jan 23 09:58:34 <pierpark> lasserix... Thanks
Jan 23 09:59:38 <lasserix> For that probably a custom popupwindow will be best
Jan 23 10:00:21 <pierpark> Okay, that sounds good then.. I just didn't know what people normally applied... Let me show you another image real quick, so that I can pick your brain about it and see if that is also how you think they are accomplishing it... Two seconds...
Jan 23 10:01:05 <lasserix> you could also use a custom dialog fragment, depending on how much you want to tweak it. imo they take same amount of boilerplate to get a skeleton
Jan 23 10:01:11 <pierpark> Describe how you think they are pulling this entire screen off: https://lh6.ggpht.com/gBFNQBb35jjr2rOgvZ1wwvWqFP7uhyoE2GMtYoTk1G-6sntMpkpAnTJvGQTwSKKg4w
Jan 23 10:01:59 <pierpark> Okay. I think I'll try to do a custom popup.. have the code laying around somewhere, and I think I can style it the way I'm talking, now that you've mentioned it.
Jan 23 10:02:21 <lasserix> that's a lot of widgets with transparency with a background bitmap
Jan 23 10:02:24 <lasserix> would be my guess
Jan 23 10:02:54 <lasserix> Android handles alpha channels well, you could do all that with a custom view but it'd be a lot of "fun" to flesh out dimensions in code
Jan 23 10:03:55 <pierpark> No joke.... I don't think I can handle that much fun right now. Ha ha.
Jan 23 10:05:08 <gmag> hey, trtying to find out the corresponding containers in android to c++ vector, list, map, etc. You guys have a good reference to read?
Jan 23 10:05:22 <lasserix> basically a rating bar with custom mushrooms to top left, two transparent textviews top right, mushroom imageview center, maybe a custom listview for the green with custom checkboxes
Jan 23 10:05:34 <pierpark> Alright, solution sounds good. I appreciate the input. Half of my battle is just getting the concept of the development down, before I run off and go stupid when there is a simpler approach.... Not _as_ stumped by the code as I was on day one about 4 months ago... That was one bad bad bad two weeks.
Jan 23 10:05:38 <lasserix> all in a parent relativelayout with that wood background bitmap
Jan 23 10:06:22 <Leeds> gmag: they're just java
Jan 23 10:06:58 <pierpark> Ah, so all very simple, but styled to make it look more complicated. Eases my mind. Thanks for the input guys. Going to go see about implementing this dialog now. Be back around in a bit, if anyone is still up.
Jan 23 10:08:12 <pierpark> No idea how it got to be 4:00 in the morning... screw it... I guess I'll pretend I just got up early. (Words I'll regret by 6pm).
Jan 23 10:08:41 * Leeds checks... yup, 6pm
Jan 23 10:10:09 <pierpark> Oh, one more thing...what did you think of my Engvall layout? I'm basically trying to build a template for myself for a few apps I have in mind, and was hoping this looked pretty decent.
Jan 23 10:10:10 <lasserix> One of the greatest myths of the human species: time is linear :)
Jan 23 10:10:23 <pierpark> hahaha. Nice
Jan 23 10:10:58 <lasserix> Start just getting everything working, ui refreshes are easy once the scaffolding is in place. ultimatly the social use and behavior of your app with tailor its own design
Jan 23 10:11:32 <Udmurt> Sorry for spam, write check
Jan 23 10:11:42 <lasserix> that's an iphone app though, look at the action bar as navigation for you UI--it's the recomended thing now
Jan 23 10:12:42 <pierpark> I need to get a _real_ device with 3.0 > (that's where the action bar comes in, right?) ... so I can actually confidently test on it rather than rely on this emulator which bugs me to no end.
Jan 23 10:12:46 <lasserix> Personally I think swiping is more natural for touch-interface users (as opposed to people like us, with point and click mouse) than "clicking" with the finger and think a transparent slide out drawer is more organic
Jan 23 10:12:55 <pierpark> I should probably flip that back button into something less iPhony.
Jan 23 10:13:01 <lasserix> look at actionbarsherlock library for adding actionbar to your 2.x devices
Jan 23 10:13:14 <lasserix> that's exactly what the action bar up carrot does
Jan 23 10:13:15 <lasserix> brb
Jan 23 10:13:20 <pierpark> K.
Jan 23 10:15:55 <_kud> Hello
Jan 23 10:15:57 <pierpark> Oooh... yeah, I remember downloading the actionBarSherlock project and looking through some demos... that was a very very nice bunch of tools to have for reference.
Jan 23 10:16:01 <pierpark> Mornin, _kud
Jan 23 10:16:18 <_kud> I've got a question about webapp on Android, is it the correct channel?
Jan 23 10:17:00 <pierpark> I want to say yes, but I'm teetering on that until you give a slightly better worded questoin...
Jan 23 10:17:08 <pierpark> ^ _kud
Jan 23 10:17:23 <_kud> I'm a web developer and I'm developing a full js application, but I'm stuck with video tag
Jan 23 10:17:56 <_kud> On android (android browser or chrome or whatever else) I have no clue when the user comes back to my app when he was on the native player
Jan 23 10:18:09 <pierpark> ah... I don't think this is the right channel :) You might check the #jquery <-- (I think) channel if you're making mobile-web "apps".
Jan 23 10:18:18 <_kud> Haha it won't help me
Jan 23 10:18:37 <_kud> first of all because jquery users are noobs, and mostly because it's especially an android question :D
Jan 23 10:18:45 <pierpark> Why not just develop on Android? If you're familiar with js, you should be able to get a grasp on Java.
Jan 23 10:18:52 <_kud> it's managing between android browsers and native player
Jan 23 10:18:57 <pierpark> Okay let me back up and read. Hold on.
Jan 23 10:19:18 <_kud> In fact, I play my video via <video> which works great, but I also have a fullscreen button
Jan 23 10:19:25 <_kud> when I click on it, it starts the native player
Jan 23 10:19:31 <_kud> and plays the video
Jan 23 10:19:50 <_kud> Everything is ok except that: I have no idea in javascript when the user quits the native player
Jan 23 10:20:34 <_kud> I've got no event, I don't know on what to bind my eventListener
Jan 23 10:21:59 <pierpark> I wouldn't really know what to tell you, except.... at first guess, since you aren't communicating with any API (right?) , I'd be using some sort of onFocus ... set some flags for when you lose focus, and when you re-gain it... I think under JQuery Mobile, you can listen for these changes and proceed from there. That's about all I can suggest, since I don't develop in that area anymore,
Jan 23 10:21:59 <pierpark> and when I did, I don't remember having a reason to know those things.
Jan 23 10:22:33 <_kud> I see
Jan 23 10:22:41 <pierpark> Maybe check Stack Overflow for some suggestions, or maybe one of these guys in here can suggest a more direct approach.
Jan 23 10:22:49 <_kud> Yep
Jan 23 10:24:18 <pierpark> If you haven't tried, I really would suggest talking in JQuery because it has a lot of these built-in solutions ... handling screen swipes, listeners, etc. If not there, maybe a javascript channel. This isn't really an Android specific problem... But, if you were developing in Android, we could all help you out, and you might be glad you started learning :)
Jan 23 10:25:18 <_kud> hehe, thank you
Jan 23 10:25:28 <_kud> the thing is it's like a bug on native player in fact
Jan 23 10:25:40 <pierpark> That, or make the video play in the browser and not the native player. That, I know can be done, because I've done it. HTML5 meta information and whatnot...
Jan 23 10:25:45 <_kud> all my listeners are not available when the user comes on native player
Jan 23 10:25:49 <_kud> which is a real trouble
Jan 23 10:25:50 <osxorgate> GCM working for anyone? as in right now
Jan 23 10:26:07 <_kud> yeah pierpark but I can't do fullscreen without native player
Jan 23 10:27:14 <pierpark> YouTube has an HTML5 player (since they aren't doing 'Flash' on mobile), and it plays in browser (appears to, anyway)... and doesn't launch the native player. So there's a way, but I'm not of any help of 'how to'.
Jan 23 10:27:27 <_kud> the thing is they play webm
Jan 23 10:27:28 <pierpark> osxorgate: I don't use GCM yet, so sorry man.. can't tell you.
Jan 23 10:27:31 <_kud> and we play h264
Jan 23 10:27:54 <_kud> i've got to do some tricks in javascript to use h264 in native player :D
Jan 23 10:28:16 <_kud> which works, but I need to know when the user quits the native player, which isn't possible for the moment (or at least I don't know how)
Jan 23 10:28:50 <pierpark> _kud... eh... sorry I'm not of any help. I don't think you're going to find an answer in here on the Android side of things.. but you might be able to trap for focus on your web app.. meaning... when the BODY of your HTML document $('#body_id') loses focus, you know they ran off... set a flag... a boolean.. hasLostFocus = true.
Jan 23 10:29:11 <_kud> yep thank you ;)
Jan 23 10:29:24 <_kud> that's what I thought
Jan 23 10:29:31 <_kud> managing with focus
Jan 23 10:29:38 <pierpark> When they quit the player, it's automatically going to reattach focus to the last thing they were on, which in that case would be the browser element of your app... so listen for that focus also, change your boolean and proceed. That's the only way I can even see it going down like that.
Jan 23 10:29:51 <pierpark> Cool. Good luck man. See you around one of these days if you pick up Android dev. Take care.
Jan 23 10:30:01 <_kud> thanks!
Jan 23 10:30:06 <pierpark> No problem.
Jan 23 10:30:55 <pierpark> lasserix: are you taking an exceptionally long piss or something? j/k. You've got me thinking about that sliding drawer now.
Jan 23 10:31:55 <g00s> i think sliding drawer is deprecated
Jan 23 10:32:31 <g00s> google wants you to roll your own :)
Jan 23 10:32:36 <pierpark> g00s whaaaaaaa? Really? That's a damn shame...
Jan 23 10:32:50 <g00s> yeah, see ? http://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/SlidingDrawer.html
Jan 23 10:32:50 <lasserix> Yeah not the api sliding drawer
Jan 23 10:33:12 <g00s> how many sliding drawers are there :P
Jan 23 10:33:17 <lasserix> In your case, for now use AB / ABS since it is the standard. I was just saying in the future
Jan 23 10:33:26 <lasserix> SimonVT has a sliding drawer
Jan 23 10:33:45 <g00s> oh, the menu thingy
Jan 23 10:34:07 <pierpark> Now I'm looking like this>    o_0
Jan 23 10:34:27 <pierpark> Especially if you throw in an ALT = 0... upside question mark beside it...
Jan 23 10:34:34 <lasserix> but I meant generically if you pull from the left of the screen, then your options should show up. partly because i think swiping is more natural, but also because the action bar takes up too much space on a phone
Jan 23 10:35:08 <pierpark> Okay, so SlidingDrawer widget = no go...   and.... listen for screen swipe and run something in the anim/ folder to make it slide, right?
Jan 23 10:35:17 <pierpark> Any examples out there that you would suggest looking at?
Jan 23 10:35:32 <lasserix> Yeah yeah but that's only once you get version one up and running and have your app have a userbase
Jan 23 10:35:53 <lasserix> for now, sticking to the action bar if you can is the best
Jan 23 10:36:58 <pierpark> That sounds like a plan. I originally had thought that the action bar was just too .. 'corporate' for apps that were more laid back or game-like... maybe I need to take a second look? What about full screen apps.. does it auto-hide or something?
Jan 23 10:37:45 <pierpark> Hmm. I need to go pull up this emulator because I think I'm remembering it backwards.
Jan 23 10:37:50 <BrixSat> How the hell can my sdcard be mounted as red only? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1562254/ im on shell with adb
Jan 23 10:37:52 <lasserix> Heh corporate. It's just a UI pattern, which works well on both phone and tablet
Jan 23 10:41:35 <pierpark> Sounds good. Hey thanks a lot, man. Gonna go try it out and see how things go.
Jan 23 10:42:00 <squ> will activity and service use the same SharedPreferences file ?
Jan 23 10:45:20 <lasserix> they can i believe
Jan 23 10:45:36 <lasserix> since the service lives in the application process
Jan 23 10:55:48 <osxorgate> do FragmentActivities with style Theme.Dialog have a minimum size ? wrap_content still seems to show a big empty space below my widgets
Jan 23 10:56:38 <lime> alright, so i've setup a menu.. everything is working, but how do i close the menu after i've chosen my option in onItemClick()?
Jan 23 10:56:54 <pierpark> What is the correct 'syntax' for providing a method description? So if I'm using it later and hover over my usage, it'd give me some custom wordage in there that I wrote in the method body? Does that make sense? If not, it's because it's stupid o'clock for me.
Jan 23 10:57:19 <osxorgate> pierpark:  /**
Jan 23 10:57:36 <pierpark> osxorgate... me and dialogs don't get along... or I'd be here helping. my only social life these days. Sorry :/
Jan 23 10:57:42 <pierpark> Thanks for that!
Jan 23 10:58:06 <pierpark> lime: Man there are several types of menus.. ContextMenu? What type of menu are you talking about?
Jan 23 10:58:35 <lime> listview, i think it's called
Jan 23 10:58:43 <lime> it's similar to this --> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13737394/retrieve-selected-menu-item-text-from-onitemclick-android
Jan 23 10:59:21 <lime> (my menu is based on that example)
Jan 23 10:59:36 <lasserix> lime dismiss?
Jan 23 10:59:48 <osxorgate> lime that has nothing to do with menu
Jan 23 10:59:50 <lime> probably.. what is the command?
Jan 23 10:59:55 <lasserix> dismiss()
Jan 23 10:59:58 <lime> ah ok
Jan 23 11:00:00 <lime> i'll try that
Jan 23 11:00:13 <pierpark> lime: I can help you .. give me a minute, but... that's a ListView widget... not a "menu"
Jan 23 11:00:39 <pierpark> ooooooooooh
Jan 23 11:00:45 <lime> yeah ok, well i've made this work as a settings menu for my live wallpaper
Jan 23 11:00:48 <pierpark> Yeah, what lasserix said.
Jan 23 11:01:16 <lasserix> pierpark: /**   * * * */
Jan 23 11:01:16 <pierpark> Sure, that's okay... Wasn't trying to be snoody... Using it as a menu is common... just could have had us confused for a few minutes :)
Jan 23 11:01:23 <lime> well, for now it tells me that dismiss is an undefined method
Jan 23 11:01:40 <lime> yeah well, i'm a total noob, so i'm not sure how to ask these kinda questions :D
Jan 23 11:02:49 <pierpark> lime... fake it until you make it man.... I only started toying with Android development 4 months ago... if even.. maybe 3... and I've come a looooooooong way since. You will, too.
Jan 23 11:03:13 <lime> haha, that's my plan pierpark, it's been 3 weeks for me :D
Jan 23 11:03:16 <lime> and i've gotten quite far
Jan 23 11:03:19 <pierpark> Did you try view.dismiss(); ? err... something like that. Or did you just go write out "dismiss()"
Jan 23 11:03:37 <lime> i just wrote dismiss(); hehe
Jan 23 11:03:44 <lasserix> lime: what's the class of the whatever you are trying to dismiss?
Jan 23 11:04:41 <pierpark> Yeah, lime, I'm still slightly confused, too, since this is a listview... I get that you're loading in an array list, and upon selection/click of an item, you are wanting to.... [fill in the space here]
Jan 23 11:05:21 <lime> once the item is clicked i just want to go back to the 'main screen' ie. close the listview down again
Jan 23 11:05:27 <pierpark> finish()
Jan 23 11:06:11 <lime> sweet, that did the trick
Jan 23 11:06:19 <lime> thanks alot guys
Jan 23 11:06:45 <pierpark> finish(); is going to return you to the last activity you opened before launching the activity with the ListView/"menu" ... But only if you didn't "finish();" the previous activity when launching your "menu" activity.. it can get a little grumpy if you are trying to return to a place that you closed.
Jan 23 11:07:08 <lime> yeah i see
Jan 23 11:07:25 <pierpark> No problem. Hang around. Don't be a drive-by coder... you'll learn by reading others' problems and solutions, too.
Jan 23 11:07:37 <lime> well for now this does the trick, and i guess google can help me out if i stumble into issues with the finish() funtion
Jan 23 11:07:46 <pierpark> :)
Jan 23 11:08:01 <lime> pierpark, yeah definitely, i've been idling here as much as possible
Jan 23 11:08:07 <k-joseph> [13:42] <k-joseph> hi, every one am new toandroid development, am trying to run the firstapp from eclipse, following up tutorials fromthenewboston site and am getting the error:
Jan 23 11:08:07 <k-joseph> [13:42] <k-joseph> [2013-01-23 13:34:40 - DexLoader] SecurityException: Unable to find field fordex.jar
Jan 23 11:09:50 <pierpark> lime: The only issues you are going to run into when calling finish() is if you are outside the scope of your activity and it will not let you compile the code... it'll be like 'uh? finish what?' ... Otherwise, it's going to close that activity. Think of it as two things: 1) it'll finish that activity and return to previous one (if you didn't close it), and 2) your 'exit' button should
Jan 23 11:09:50 <pierpark> just be a finish(); also.
Jan 23 11:10:34 <lime> alright, i'll keep that in mind
Jan 23 11:10:46 <lime> even though it already got a bit abstract :)
Jan 23 11:12:16 <pierpark> So if I were 'back on the block' and telling you that.. I'd say... If you try to call finish() from Joe's front yard, expecting that it knows you are talking about closing your garage, three houses down... it's not going to happen. You'll have to be within the scope/range of the activity to properly communicate that you want to shut it down. :)
Jan 23 11:12:39 <pierpark> Yeah I hear ya. I make more problems for myself than I should.. still learning. Always learning. :) Gonna go do some coding be back in a bit
Jan 23 11:13:01 <lime> hahaha, i like your 'down to earth' example :)
Jan 23 11:13:12 <lime> but i think i get it for now..
Jan 23 11:13:17 <lime> happy coding, see you around
Jan 23 11:13:29 <k-joseph> [14:07] <k-joseph> [13:42] <k-joseph> hi, everyone am new toandroid development, am trying torun the firstapp from eclipse, following uptutorials fromthenewboston site and am getting the error:
Jan 23 11:13:29 <k-joseph> [14:07] <k-joseph> [13:42] <k-joseph>[2013-01-23 13:34:40 - DexLoader] SecurityExcepti on: Unable to find field fordex.jar
Jan 23 11:13:51 <k-joseph> any one to please help me fix this error, thanks
Jan 23 11:13:54 <lime> i think k-joseph is trying to say something
Jan 23 11:13:55 <pierpark> Yeah...sometimes that's what I require... somebody to break it down Barney style for me so I can wrap my head around it, then tackle the coding. Alright get back to coding. Good luck man.
Jan 23 11:14:28 <pierpark> k-joseph: we saw the message.
Jan 23 11:16:13 <pierpark> k-joseph: suggestion... because I can't help you... First, "fromthenewboston site" ... means nothing to me.. Second, if I were you and really wanted some help, I'd explain the situation, provide a link to the specific example you are trying to use, and maybe throw in a few words that make sense... Then, you'd be a lot easier to help. Not trying to be rude, but that was a garbled message.
Jan 23 11:18:20 <pierpark> Not saying I have the only or even 'correct' approach here.. but at least try to explain your situation.
Jan 23 11:19:00 <lime> i was gonna say something like that, but since i'm new and don't wanna make a big scene i decided to keep my mouth shut
Jan 23 11:19:19 <lime> but i agree with pierpark, if your first attempt at getting help failed, try a different approach
Jan 23 11:19:44 <k-joseph> lime: pierpark: thanks for your attension, am sorry to be that rude,
Jan 23 11:20:02 <pierpark> k-joseph: Here's what you need to do:
Jan 23 11:20:23 <lime> it's alright, i simply don't understand your language or your case :)
Jan 23 11:20:39 <k-joseph> pierpark: :-|
Jan 23 11:20:44 <pierpark> First, read this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13743394/securityexception-unable-to-find-field-for-dex-jar-android
Jan 23 11:21:51 <pierpark> And then you should probably update your platform SDK to the latest (as it is hinting at/suggesting), because that's what I've found on the first few search results for that same problem.
Jan 23 11:22:46 <pierpark> And make sure you restart Eclipse before trying again. See if that helps.
Jan 23 11:23:18 <k-joseph> pierpark: thanks alot, please am trying that
Jan 23 11:23:27 <valgrind> Does the sdk provide a spinner containing all the countries so that the user can pick his?
Jan 23 11:23:47 <lasserix> it provides the spinner, you provide the data
Jan 23 11:24:27 <pierpark> k-joseph: And it's fine... it wasn't all that 'rude'... Just gave us nothing to go by, and then pasted your multi-line question twice... It is all good :) But let me/us know if that fixes the problem, so that it can be remembered. Thanks!
Jan 23 11:24:29 <lasserix> but the decive will resolve localle contexts
Jan 23 11:24:36 <valgrind> pff might be easier to get the location of the user himself without using a spinenr then
Jan 23 11:26:04 <k-joseph> pierpark: ok, will give you a reply:-)
Jan 23 11:26:26 <pierpark> Thanks
Jan 23 11:26:45 <osxorgate> i use a tiled bitmap drawable as background for my activity. The activity always has at least the size of the bitmap, maybe larger. How can I disable this minimum size?
Jan 23 11:30:56 <pierpark> osxorgate: if you're asking how you can tile your bitmap so that it will cover the entire background no matter the device size... I'd go google "android how to tile bitmap as background" if it were me.
Jan 23 11:31:31 <osxorgate> pierpark: the thing is that the bitmap is larger than the preferred size of the activity
Jan 23 11:31:58 <osxorgate> (which is a floating dialog)
Jan 23 11:32:08 <pierpark> so what are you trying to do then?
Jan 23 11:32:40 <pierpark> oh.. you want your dialog to be smaller than the bitmap?
Jan 23 11:32:49 <pierpark> without having to cut your bitmap to a specific size?
Jan 23 11:32:55 <osxorgate> the widgets mount up to say 200 pixels, the bitmap is 300 pixels. endresult: activity is 300 pixels
Jan 23 11:33:15 <pierpark> I want to smile, and say cut the bitmap image to the right size.
Jan 23 11:34:40 <pierpark> I've run into that myself a couple times in the last 24 hours.. and... it wasn't important enough for me to find a solution. I usually just crop my bitmap.
Jan 23 11:35:42 <pierpark> Programatically resizing the dialog crossed my mind, but I didn't do it because I knew it wasn't the right approach. But if you figure it out, please pass the info to me :)
Jan 23 11:36:45 <pierpark> But yes, why "background" takes up dimensional space just like a foreground widget is beyond me.
Jan 23 11:59:07 <fjallagyldir> hei together
Jan 23 12:01:50 <fjallagyldir> got some troubles with my acer iconiatab a501
Jan 23 12:02:10 <fjallagyldir> it doesn't want to recognize my USB GPS mouse ...
Jan 23 12:02:16 <fjallagyldir> any hints for me?
Jan 23 12:06:51 <novie> fjallagyldir: that's not really a dev question
Jan 23 12:10:43 <valgrind> well, not a dev question atl east :D
Jan 23 12:11:32 <fjallagyldir> hmm ok, but what kind of question is it then?
Jan 23 12:12:58 <Daani> I am totally stuck, trying to interact with a webservice using ksoap2 on button click, the webservice is contacted from an AsyncTask. The result is passed from the OnPostExecute to a method using delegate. http://pastebin.com/ifWk4BVq
Jan 23 12:13:33 <Daani> Problem is, I get different errors, socket excpetions, timeout exceptions, on the phone the app crashes after a few seconds.
Jan 23 12:13:43 <Daani> sometimes it says, could not connect to url../ ip
Jan 23 12:20:11 <Daani> I would really appreaciate if someone know pitfalls that can occur by doing this. No documentation can help me at the moment
Jan 23 12:22:02 <fjallagyldir> dont think that the guys in here are interesting in helping people ....
Jan 23 12:22:55 <appel1> Daani: debug your app and fix the errors that crashes your app.. with the info you've given there's not much more anyone can tell you
Jan 23 12:23:08 <m1hael> fjallagyldir: try the android channel and not the dev channel
Jan 23 12:24:06 <fjallagyldir> thanks, will try
Jan 23 12:25:24 <Daani> appel1: I did, now I got: Server did not recognize the value of HTTP Header SOAPAction: Service/Method
Jan 23 12:28:54 <appel1> Daani: then you need to use something your server recognizes, or add support for what it is you want to do to the server
Jan 23 12:32:41 <MrMaffen> is there any way i can get a reference to the home actionItem in the top left corner inside my actionbar? I'm using ActionBarSherlock and i'm trying to exchange the home actionItem dynamically
Jan 23 12:33:14 <MrMaffen> i've tried to get the reference by calling menu.findItem(android.R.id.home); inside my onCreateOptionsMenu method
Jan 23 12:33:19 <MrMaffen> had no luck though :S
Jan 23 12:42:30 <Zharf> I'm guessing that thing is added after the call to the method
Jan 23 12:42:49 <Zharf> what exactly do you want to do to it?
Jan 23 12:45:25 <MrMaffen> Zharf: i think I've found a solution to my problem. thanks for answering though :)
Jan 23 12:50:11 <squ> is it possible to use compound drawables with scaleType like fitStart
Jan 23 12:59:13 <Drager> What's the font called in jellybean?
Jan 23 12:59:45 <funkbox> Drager: roboto
Jan 23 12:59:59 <funkbox> is okay
Jan 23 13:02:11 <Drager> funkbox: thanks
Jan 23 13:02:18 <funkbox> Drager: domo origato
Jan 23 13:02:32 <funkbox> err domo arigato
Jan 23 13:03:41 <Drager> :)
Jan 23 13:11:19 <Zharf> funkbox, grr, you just reminded me of that stupid song
Jan 23 13:11:31 <funkbox> Zharf: you're welcome
Jan 23 13:11:53 <funkbox> ava.lang.IllegalArgumentException: View not attached to window manager << anyone know what usually causes this
Jan 23 13:12:06 <funkbox> i've got a android.widget.PopupWindow.dismiss(PopupWindow.java:1271) down the line in the stack
Jan 23 13:17:24 <Anoia> funkbox: created on the wrong thread/context?
Jan 23 13:18:18 <funkbox> Anoia: the popupwindow ?
Jan 23 13:18:25 <funkbox> i'm *very* careful about threading
Jan 23 13:21:11 <osxorgate> i have this layout which is shown in an activity with dialog theme: https://gist.github.com/4605499  in my editor it looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/IGq13y4.png  on my nexus7 it looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/xPpU8yK.png What could cause the cutoff at the bottom? On my 2.2 device it does not cut off
Jan 23 13:22:31 <osxorgate> what i wish to do is have the dialog window take its width from the edittext, and have all others adjust to that width
Jan 23 13:31:44 <Drager> Any idea why images would be "blurred", like bad quality
Jan 23 13:32:14 <osxorgate> Drager: theyre getting zoomed because they fetch the wrong resource?
Jan 23 13:33:07 <lov> ^^
Jan 23 13:33:09 <Drager> osxorgate: Maybe it's the DPI that's wrong on the iamges
Jan 23 13:33:12 <lov> You're probably upscaling or something
Jan 23 13:33:28 <lov> Do you have images for your density level?
Jan 23 13:33:37 <lov> if you only have drawable-mdpi and you're doing xhdpi or something, it's gonna be bad
Jan 23 13:33:44 <Drager> Ah, alright
Jan 23 13:56:36 <MrMaffen> i want to rotate a drawable with the use of a RotateDrawable object. Can anybody explain to me how i can apply the rotateDrawable to my drawable?
Jan 23 13:57:12 <MrMaffen> i have a drawable and want to apply a rotation to this drawable. i guess this would then be done with setLevel(5000); or something
Jan 23 13:57:33 <MrMaffen> after that i want to get my drawable back. but now it should be rotated by 180 degrees
Jan 23 14:15:15 <zipoboy> if i put all my images(action bar icon, luncher icon, itd) in xhdpi folder - making them appropriate xhdpi size. Does android resize them to smaller sizes, if i don't make hdpi, ldpi variations???
Jan 23 14:24:09 <clever> zipoboy: i think it will scale it down at run-time, chewing up plenty of ram and cpu
Jan 23 14:34:14 <zipoboy> clever:  aha ok.. so that is the reason why i should make other variations of images
Jan 23 14:34:18 <zipoboy> tnx
Jan 23 14:35:14 <zipoboy> it makes sense
Jan 23 14:40:16 <belgianguy> what are competences most welcome in an Android developer
Jan 23 14:41:03 <belgianguy> experience I don't yet have (officially at least)
Jan 23 14:41:07 <belgianguy> so where do I start?
Jan 23 14:41:16 <belgianguy> github my projects?
Jan 23 14:41:20 <belgianguy> show off what I can do?
Jan 23 14:42:07 <belgianguy> I'm super pissed because I just signed up to do some data entry for my old employer as a temp, and he couldn't even contain himself to chide me on my Android related skills
Jan 23 14:42:20 <belgianguy> which are fine, good even, but it's a Microsoft oriented outfit
Jan 23 14:43:05 <belgianguy> and I want to show that no-good backstabbling POS that I'm worth every cent
Jan 23 14:43:15 <rohdef> is there a way in XML to include a custom view to another view. As a simple example option_buttons.xml could have <ScrollView ..><LinearLayout ...><Button ... /><Button ... /></Lin..., then I'd like to do something like <OptionButtons ... /> in my other views
Jan 23 14:44:52 <rohdef> I've found this, but is it really the best/only solution? http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/custom-components.html#modifying
Jan 23 14:52:05 <novie> rohdef: in XML you can use <include>
Jan 23 14:52:51 <rohdef> novie, thanks, exactly what I'm looking for it seams
Jan 23 14:52:59 <novie> np
Jan 23 15:00:02 <thepoosh> anyone has a thought about this?
Jan 23 15:00:03 <thepoosh> http://stackoverflow.com/q/14482480/1056359
Jan 23 15:25:03 <xgear> Hello! Is there any way to add fragment over viewpager's fragment (hide viewpager's  fragment and show new)?
Jan 23 15:25:18 <xgear> a have viewpager with tabs
Jan 23 15:39:11 <censor> hi all
Jan 23 15:40:53 <Silox|> Hello there. Is there a default icon for a menu item to open a mapsview?
Jan 23 15:41:01 <censor> how can i access the textview items of a listview that where created from a fragment? basically the two-pane project that Eclipse in the SDK provides
Jan 23 15:41:18 <rendar> can google calendar notice me when there is an event or i have to poll from the client?
Jan 23 15:42:22 <censor> i'm creating the listview items from an ArrayAdapter, which is accessing a JSON array, and i want to disable some of the items in the listview based on the values in that JSON array
Jan 23 15:48:14 <novie> censor: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/BaseAdapter.html#isEnabled(int)
Jan 23 15:48:24 <novie> censor: also: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/BaseAdapter.html#areAllItemsEnabled()
Jan 23 15:50:44 <censor> novie: thanks, but how can i access the listview's items once it already exists?
Jan 23 15:52:14 <xgear> Hello! Is there any way to add fragment over viewpager's fragment (hide viewpager's fragment and show new)? a have viewpager with tabs.
Jan 23 15:54:39 <novie> censor: through the ListAdapter
Jan 23 15:57:02 <censor> novie: uhm, okay, i'll check
Jan 23 15:59:28 <novie> censor: I'd recommend looking at some of the listview samples on http://d.android.com
Jan 23 15:59:47 <censor> okay, will do
Jan 23 16:00:18 <timroes> censor: best listview tutorial imho http://www.vogella.com/articles/AndroidListView/article.html
Jan 23 16:06:25 <StingRay_> if i Use a library project and use lets say 20% of the classes from that project, when an app is exported, does it actually include all of that library project or is it smart about it ?
Jan 23 16:11:41 <SimonVT> Everything is included
Jan 23 16:11:49 <SimonVT> If you want to remove unused classes, etc, use proguard
Jan 23 16:12:05 <StingRay_> ah ok, I can add excludes in there
Jan 23 16:12:25 <StingRay_> ok next question, how about asking eclipse for whats used ?
Jan 23 16:12:32 <StingRay_> am I hoping for too much there?
Jan 23 16:12:42 <SimonVT> What do you mean?
Jan 23 16:13:34 <StingRay_> asking eclipse for a list of unused resources/classes/anything
Jan 23 16:13:43 <StingRay_> from a project centric sense
Jan 23 16:13:51 <f2prateek_> i think lint does that right?
Jan 23 16:14:14 <f2prateek_> at least for resources
Jan 23 16:20:35 <Afzal> is HttpUrlConnection still better than Apache HttpClient?
Jan 23 16:21:06 <Afzal> i know that the android devs advised in 2009 to use the former
Jan 23 16:21:36 <Leeds> Afzal: you've seen the developer blog post?
Jan 23 16:21:42 <Afzal> yeah
Jan 23 16:21:52 <Afzal> http://android-developers.blogspot.ca/2011/09/androids-http-clients.html
Jan 23 16:21:56 <Leeds> that was 2011, not 2009
Jan 23 16:22:22 <Leeds> AFAIK the advice still stands: "For Gingerbread and better, HttpURLConnection is the best choice"
Jan 23 16:22:24 <Afzal> ah right >_<
Jan 23 16:23:24 <Afzal> hmm i see. I think I missed the part in the documentation where it says "use getErrorStream() to read the error response" and panicked
Jan 23 16:23:34 <Afzal> :) thanks for the quick reminder Leeds
Jan 23 16:27:36 <jcase> having problems executing a dex with dalvikvm (im on 4.2), the vm doesnt find the class. can anyone tell me my issue? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=4LGDHHBs
Jan 23 16:27:43 <jcase> probably something related to me not being awake
Jan 23 16:31:28 <yamenajjour> hi guys !
Jan 23 16:31:46 <yamenajjour>  i am trying to debug using gdb in the ndk part of my project
Jan 23 16:31:52 <yamenajjour> after i run the program
Jan 23 16:32:10 <yamenajjour> and let the debugger attach by running ndk-gdb
Jan 23 16:32:19 <yamenajjour> i am getting a strange error saying
Jan 23 16:33:02 <yamenajjour> Error in final launch sequence Failed to execute MI command: -gdb-set target-async off
Jan 23 16:33:05 <yamenajjour> man !
Jan 23 16:33:09 <yamenajjour> what is this !
Jan 23 16:34:27 <yamenajjour> seems challenging cause i 've got no answer on SOF
Jan 23 16:36:30 <sleepster> is there a way to create constants in AIDL
Jan 23 16:36:31 <sleepster> or enums
Jan 23 16:39:48 <mikedg> why do you want to do that
Jan 23 16:44:13 <kitallis> my VideoView is failing to show the rtsp 3gp video and instead only plays the audio and shows the controls, would anyone know why?
Jan 23 16:45:24 <sleepster> mikedg, oh, so I would like them to provide me "flags"
Jan 23 16:45:35 <sleepster> which are just bit flag values
Jan 23 16:46:04 <sleepster> I was hoping to be able to define these flags in the AIDL
Jan 23 16:46:52 <mikedg> did you try it?
Jan 23 16:46:52 <speeder> it is only me or the dashboard really is refusing to give data of yesterday?
Jan 23 16:47:55 <mikedg> if you tried the obvious way and it fails, then i doubt its possible
Jan 23 16:49:46 <mikedg> provide an enum and send the ordinal value
Jan 23 16:53:06 <canadiancow> mikedg,
Jan 23 16:53:13 <canadiancow> you're never on during reasonable hours anymore
Jan 23 16:53:40 <Looney> reasonable hours on Internet canadiancow  ? ?
Jan 23 16:53:46 <canadiancow> yes?
Jan 23 16:54:08 <Looney> :-(
Jan 23 16:54:18 <Looney> even Internet has hours
Jan 23 16:54:28 <canadiancow> mikedg, has hours
Jan 23 16:54:37 <canadiancow> ugh why does this damn client stick in a cmma
Jan 23 16:54:39 <canadiancow> comma*
Jan 23 16:55:36 <timroes> canadiancow: I guess you are familiar with android review process? :)
Jan 23 16:55:46 <canadiancow> "android review process" ?
Jan 23 16:55:50 <canadiancow> never heard of it
Jan 23 16:56:06 <timroes> sarcasm?
Jan 23 16:56:43 <canadiancow> no
Jan 23 16:56:48 <canadiancow> i have no idea what you're talking about
Jan 23 16:57:03 <timroes> i mean reaching in patches to the android project
Jan 23 16:57:10 <timroes> https://android-review.googlesource.com this stuff
Jan 23 16:57:14 <canadiancow> oh
Jan 23 16:57:15 <canadiancow> yes
Jan 23 16:57:19 <timroes> :)
Jan 23 16:57:20 <canadiancow> i know exactly how that works
Jan 23 16:57:40 <canadiancow> you submit a patch, then you bug someone who has approval rights in that project to merge it
Jan 23 16:57:53 <timroes> if i uploaded some commit, should I add reviewers to it, or should i leave it empty, and anyone who would like to review it, will review it?
Jan 23 16:58:09 <canadiancow> if you know who to add, you should add them
Jan 23 16:58:11 <timroes> because there are groups like approver-platform-base, and such
Jan 23 16:58:23 <canadiancow> i dont know what those groups are
Jan 23 16:58:24 <timroes> platform-build*
Jan 23 16:58:28 <StingRay_> if I'm asking a image app to return an image, how do I know what kind of data/content it's passing back? eg Some may choose gallery returning media uri, other may choose dropbox, returing a file location ? Is is ok to presume that if it hasnt got a "." then it's content Uri ?
Jan 23 16:58:33 <timroes> some ppl are in there accodring to the list :D
Jan 23 16:58:52 <timroes> but one commit i made was at the framework-base project, and there are a lot of ppl in that gruop :D
Jan 23 16:58:59 <canadiancow> ah hmm yeah i'd add a group like that
Jan 23 16:59:03 <timroes> thats why I didn't dare to add it :D
Jan 23 16:59:09 <canadiancow> timroes, what's the commit
Jan 23 16:59:24 <timroes> https://android-review.googlesource.com/50390 and https://android-review.googlesource.com/50400
Jan 23 17:00:02 <timroes> at the second one the person added himiself, i didn't add anyone there
Jan 23 17:00:03 <canadiancow> you know you're allowed 70 characters per line in the description, right? :P
Jan 23 17:00:05 <funkbox> is there a way to programatically invoke that "take bug report" functionality ?
Jan 23 17:00:09 <timroes> the first one i added the apporver group :D
Jan 23 17:00:43 <timroes> canadiancow: hmm to what did i cut my lines  I am just wondering
Jan 23 17:00:58 <canadiancow> i dont know
Jan 23 17:00:59 <canadiancow> it looks short
Jan 23 17:01:08 <canadiancow> in your second one, you have a trailing space in your comments
Jan 23 17:01:10 <canadiancow> it's fugly
Jan 23 17:02:08 <timroes> oh thanks, I also wonder where that come from :D
Jan 23 17:02:11 <timroes> but i will correct it
Jan 23 17:02:21 <canadiancow> but yeah, if someone added themself, i think you're fine
Jan 23 17:02:33 <canadiancow> or just message ctate when he's on
Jan 23 17:02:46 <canadiancow> anyway, g2g
Jan 23 17:04:52 <timroes> thanks dude
Jan 23 17:08:49 <karni> Hi guys. If any of you thinks 'Advangates of using addAccount over exporting LoginActivity in another app?' is an interesting question, feel free to share your opinion here or answer at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14484859/advangates-of-using-addaccount-over-exporting-loginactivity-in-another-app
Jan 23 17:08:55 <karni> Appreciated, thanks :)
Jan 23 17:09:30 <karni> I genuinely think it's a pretty interesting question, which of the two ways of performing one task is better. (disclaimer: yes, I wrote that question)
Jan 23 17:12:48 <tona> i have ics on my phone, i tried to install google store it install sucessfully but unfortunately it doesnt run, just appear one windows and disapper suddenly
Jan 23 17:21:29 <MajorZero> I wan't to contain a viewpager in a layout where the viewpager will be in between a header(ontop of it) and a set of three buttons below it. What's the best way to do this? Can i use a table layout?
Jan 23 17:26:04 <WhereIsMySpoon> This TableLayout view is useless (no children, no background, no id, no  style) :(
Jan 23 17:26:18 <WhereIsMySpoon> Well fsck you too, eclipse
Jan 23 17:27:03 <lime> moar rage \o/
Jan 23 17:27:26 <tibbi> anyone using the builtin tab+swipe navigation? i just cant style the tabs..
Jan 23 17:28:23 <Quacked> hey
Jan 23 17:30:22 <StingRay_> "This TableLayout view is useless (no children, no background, no id, no  style)" I'm not quite sure any of those are all that correct
Jan 23 17:30:58 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon  well maybe the useless bit is like 30% true but the stuff in the ( )  are all wrong
Jan 23 17:31:31 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon  http://developer.android.com/reference/android/widget/TableLayout.html  <--- all here
Jan 23 17:32:23 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: it was more just an amusing thing
Jan 23 17:32:32 <WhereIsMySpoon> i wasnt asking for help ^^
Jan 23 17:40:39 <funkbox> FYI, tmobile has the nexus 4
Jan 23 17:43:55 <misterli> my sharedPreferences (MODE_WRITE)  are deleted after devicereboot. Any idea why?
Jan 23 17:44:52 <ankitkv> when trying to use jni, I get error: undefined reference to 'GetByteArrayElements'
Jan 23 17:44:55 <ankitkv> what am i missing?
Jan 23 17:46:04 <karni> misterli: maybe you don't commit your preference editor
Jan 23 17:46:06 <tona> can someone help me
Jan 23 17:46:12 <tona> i have ics on my phone, i tried to install google store it install sucessfully but unfortunately it doesnt run, just appear one windows and disapper suddenly
Jan 23 17:46:14 <karni> It's sad all I see on this channel is questions.
Jan 23 17:46:27 <SpeedEvil> indeed
Jan 23 17:46:32 <misterli> It is :S
Jan 23 17:50:26 <karni> Maybe somebody knows of a different "android dev" channel, with less devs, but more actual traffic/communication?
Jan 23 17:50:38 <funkbox> what does that mean ?
Jan 23 17:51:12 <karni> funkbox: That means, maybe somebody here knows of a more helpful IRC channel. This channel is _usually_ (not allways) just questions.
Jan 23 17:51:46 <karni> Over a year I met 2-3 helpful people here. StackOverflow is a better (although much slower) shot at getting things answered.
Jan 23 17:56:14 <SimonVT> The main difference is the quality of the questions
Jan 23 17:57:56 <H3bus> Hi guys, i'm trying to disable adb on my terminal, i've set ro.debugable to 0 and ro.secure to 1, but after reboot i still have acess to adb... Do you know why could it be ?
Jan 23 17:59:00 <SimonVT> Just disable usb debugging on your device
Jan 23 17:59:35 <H3bus> yeah, but let's assume that I can't... my screen is dead
Jan 23 17:59:56 <karni> SimonVT: That is true. That's why I decided for a stackoverlow paste rather than trying to compile one here on the fly :) But I agree.
Jan 23 18:00:02 <SimonVT> Buy a new device, disable usb debugging
Jan 23 18:00:19 <H3bus> SimonVT, thanks pal
Jan 23 18:00:23 <karni> lol
Jan 23 18:00:49 <karni> SimonVT: and quality of answers ;) (for whatever reason H3bus wanted to do that on a broken device ;) )
Jan 23 18:01:44 <N3o> hi guys! I'm starting to develop my first Android application and I have a question regarding the way an Android app should communicate with an SQL server; what is the best practice if there is one? Should I connect directly from the app via JDBC or should I have a "middleware" between, like PHP+JSON
Jan 23 18:01:46 <N3o> ?
Jan 23 18:02:18 <N3o> I need basic CRUD operations performed via de app
Jan 23 18:02:35 <SimonVT> My answer roughly translates to "I don't know"
Jan 23 18:02:41 <goodwin> i made a simple 3d wallpaper which can run on emulator but shows nothing on device, what's possible reason?
Jan 23 18:03:11 <timroes> N3o: you should definately not want to connect to sql directly if you want a good user experience
Jan 23 18:03:32 <timroes> be aware that mobile network isn't compareable to a stable broad bandwith connection
Jan 23 18:04:20 <N3o> timroes: I see, you have a very valid point!
Jan 23 18:04:25 <timroes> you must expect aborts, very slow connection and all that. So if you really want to handle that well, it is also wise to have a server side component, that knows about all that, and can handle that, so the sql server won't see it
Jan 23 18:04:49 <timroes> but in the very beginning I would start with a simple e.g. php+json interface, especially if you are familiar with it
Jan 23 18:05:31 <N3o> I'm not very familiar but I can manage
Jan 23 18:06:17 <timroes> N3o: client+server is always a bigger challenge then a simple app, so I would highly recommend, before trying that, do at least the basic trainings on the developer page
Jan 23 18:06:28 <timroes> http://developer.android.com/training/index.html
Jan 23 18:06:30 <karni> N3o: concepts you may find useful: Service, IntentSerivce, AsyncTask, ContentProvider, SyncAdapter, [AccountManager].
Jan 23 18:06:36 <karni> +1 to what timroes said
Jan 23 18:06:48 <karni> N3o: baby steps, start simple and build up from that
Jan 23 18:06:54 <Poesghost> got a quick question about webview. I have a location based app that displays a page by webview. When the user nears the location the page displayed should change. It only changes when the app is closed and re-opened.
Jan 23 18:07:10 <timroes> in general I would recommend doing all the trainings before trying some complex client+server stuff, but of course thats personal taste
Jan 23 18:07:25 <karni> N3o: Ideally, you'd have a REST API your app can talk to.
Jan 23 18:07:30 <Poesghost> Is there a way to change the page displayed in webview without having to shut the app down and reload it?
Jan 23 18:07:51 <MDijkstra> sure
Jan 23 18:08:20 <MDijkstra> webView.loadUrl("http://www.anothersite.com/");
Jan 23 18:08:40 <N3o> timroes && karni you're right, I went head-first and I've managed to connect to the server via JDBC but I had some bumps along the way like not knowing that I had to give internet access permission to the app
Jan 23 18:08:57 <N3o> and I wasted time debugging the database connection on the sql server
Jan 23 18:09:02 <Poesghost> I've done that but it doesn't change while the app is running, only when it is closed and reopened.
Jan 23 18:09:57 <MDijkstra> you're most likely calling this from a place that's only run when you 'reopen' the app
Jan 23 18:10:14 <Poesghost> I see, yes you're right.
Jan 23 18:10:26 <karni> N3o: Yes, the worst part is that you should expect connectivity issues, thus communicating with a REST service and (optionally, but usually, caching responses) is a much better idea than connecting to the remote db directly.
Jan 23 18:10:29 <timroes> N3o: so do the trainings. I guess all basic trainings will take you around half a day to a day if you are reading carefully. And afterwards just jump into the API guides you need
Jan 23 18:10:41 <MDijkstra> Poesghost: also, when you press home, you're just sending it to the background
Jan 23 18:10:45 <karni> N3o: The device can constantly switch from mobile to wi-fi and vice versa, or worst, no connection at all.
Jan 23 18:10:46 <Poesghost> I think I got it now, thanks MDijkstra.
Jan 23 18:10:55 <MDijkstra> you're not really reopening it as much as maximizing the app's window
Jan 23 18:11:00 <MDijkstra> to use a desktop metaphor
Jan 23 18:11:42 <Poesghost> yea, I goofed. But I know where I went wrong now, thanks!
Jan 23 18:12:19 <Quacked> If I'm using android:onClick on a button to trigger a notification in status bar, how do I get the buttonID in order to display the button's String in the notification? The guide from Google only shows how to set a custom string to NotificationCompat.Builder with .setContentText.
Jan 23 18:12:57 <N3o> thank you both, timroes and karni ! I'll get started with the basic training tuts!
Jan 23 18:13:24 <Quacked> I've only been able to get "android.widget.Button{40d0f0b0 VFED..C. ...P..I. 0,0-180,259 #7f070002 app:id/button1}"
Jan 23 18:14:54 <karni> N3o: Enjoy!
Jan 23 18:15:33 <SimonVT> Quacked: btn.getId() / btn.getText()
Jan 23 18:16:05 <Quacked> getId() only got me a long weird number :P
Jan 23 18:16:21 <SimonVT> That's the id
Jan 23 18:16:41 <SimonVT> You shouldn't need to look at the value anyway
Jan 23 18:17:03 <Quacked> The ID I meant is called button1 :P
Jan 23 18:17:10 <SimonVT> Yes, getId
Jan 23 18:17:18 <SimonVT> The id is an int
Jan 23 18:17:20 <Quacked> ok, cool
Jan 23 18:17:32 <SimonVT> Accessible in code with R.id.button1
Jan 23 18:25:58 <Quacked> but, how can I find the String when only having the ID?
Jan 23 18:26:38 <misterli> hello again: how do i check/listen if the defaults keylocks are correctly or incorrectly used? like wrong/correct pin or correct/wrong pattern used?
Jan 23 18:30:15 <sonOfRa> The text of that Button, Quacked?
Jan 23 18:30:18 <sonOfRa> or what do you want to grab?
Jan 23 18:31:02 <Quacked> yes, the String of the button
Jan 23 18:31:22 <SimonVT> getText
Jan 23 18:31:37 <sonOfRa> CharSequence text = button.getText();
Jan 23 18:32:36 <Quacked> I guess the problem is that the variable is a View
Jan 23 18:33:08 <sonOfRa> Well, if you are sure that is a Button, you can cast
Jan 23 18:33:19 <Quacked> Trying
Jan 23 18:33:57 <sonOfRa> Button btn1 = (Button) findViewByID(R.id.button1);
Jan 23 18:34:09 <Quacked> it worked :)
Jan 23 18:34:17 <Quacked> text = ((TextView) v).getText();
Jan 23 18:34:35 <sonOfRa> you don't need to cast the button to a textview Oo
Jan 23 18:35:07 <sonOfRa> Button inherits from TextView, and with that also inherits the GetText method
Jan 23 18:35:09 <Quacked> Eclipse wanted me to :)
Jan 23 18:35:26 <sonOfRa> v is the view you grabbed with getViewByID?
Jan 23 18:36:17 <Quacked> IIRC I needed View in my method in order for the status notification to work
Jan 23 18:36:38 <Quacked> android.onclick="startAlarm" and public void startAlarm(View v){ .... }
Jan 23 18:36:58 <sonOfRa> oh
Jan 23 18:37:13 <Quacked> and in startAlarm I have a setNotification method that starts a method with NotificationCompat.Builder
Jan 23 18:37:25 <sonOfRa> cast it to a button, not to a textview
Jan 23 18:37:29 <Quacked> OK
Jan 23 18:37:35 <sonOfRa> the View v is a reference to the object that was clicked
Jan 23 18:37:46 <Quacked> Yeah
Jan 23 18:37:56 <sonOfRa> Which is a Button, not a textview
Jan 23 18:38:11 <sleepster> is there a way to define constants or enums in AIDL?
Jan 23 18:38:16 <Quacked> Yeah, I need to stop following Eclipse blindly :)
Jan 23 18:47:33 <StingRay_> sleepster I've just done a service for my app, data backend, didn't bother with AIDL
Jan 23 18:50:27 <WhereIsMySpoon> How do I get the selected items in a dialog box with check boxes to persist?
Jan 23 18:51:00 <WhereIsMySpoon> I've tried passing the data to the parent activity then populating hte selected items when the dialog box is created but it doesnt work
Jan 23 18:52:00 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon how are you passing the info into and using ?
Jan 23 18:53:31 <trograin> Trying to ziplign a .apk file both through commandline and through graphical inside Eclipse. I have verified the .apk file and it is verified. I have created a keystore with password that is NOT the default debug.keystore. BUT, no matter how I try to export a signed version of the .apk file it simply gets wrong somewhere. It does not say its wrong but sudenly the .apk file will NOT run on the phone ( it runs nicely unsigned,
Jan 23 18:53:31 <trograin> if I just use the .apkfile directly found in Bin folder after the project is build). HELP! :(
Jan 23 18:53:42 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: eh, i was just trying to see if i could get it to work in a kinda hacks-y way, by passing hte arraylist of selected items to the parent activity, then making a static method in the parent activity that can be called by the dialog when it was created to populate it
Jan 23 18:54:54 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon and does that work ?
Jan 23 18:55:03 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: no, all checkboxes are unticked
Jan 23 18:55:22 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon is the array empty ?
Jan 23 18:55:35 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: cant be, i check for that
Jan 23 18:55:52 <StingRay_> and your setting the state on each checkbox view ?
Jan 23 18:56:39 <StingRay_> based of your info in that array ?
Jan 23 18:57:04 <Quacked> How do I set text size variable to resolution?
Jan 23 18:57:50 <StingRay_> Quacked use a unit that does that like dp or one that does that with user font scale sp, or work it out yourself and set px
Jan 23 18:57:56 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: yea, every time onCreateDialog is called, I either take values from parent activity and set selectedItems to that if it isnt null or empty, or create new arraylist
Jan 23 18:57:58 <trograin> Ido get ONE error though. When trying to jarsign the bin version of the .apk file with my release keystore, I get this as an aerror: unable to sign jar: java.util.zip.ZipException: invalid entry compressed size <expected 3682 but got 3710 bytes>
Jan 23 18:58:05 <Quacked> StingRay_: thanks.
Jan 23 18:58:06 <WhereIsMySpoon> i was just wondering if there was a better way to do this
Jan 23 18:58:26 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon pastebin
Jan 23 19:01:34 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: http://pastie.org/5838821
Jan 23 19:02:39 <StingRay_> and that "previous items" shows you your last selection
Jan 23 19:02:55 <StingRay_> where do you set that/handle it ?
Jan 23 19:03:03 <StingRay_> for the views ?
Jan 23 19:03:40 <hip2p> am I better off using loaders to get data from a MySQL database, or is it ok to simply use AsyncTask?
Jan 23 19:04:13 <StingRay_> hip2p i use Asyc for my mySql data
Jan 23 19:04:14 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: http://pastie.org/5838839
Jan 23 19:04:14 <StingRay_> :)
Jan 23 19:04:19 <WhereIsMySpoon> thats in my MatchActivity
Jan 23 19:04:28 <WhereIsMySpoon> its auto called when positive button (I.e. the OK button) is pressed
Jan 23 19:04:52 <hip2p> StingRay_ yeah I do, too. Just wondering if loaders are more efficient
Jan 23 19:05:00 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon would need to see all the code rather than just that
Jan 23 19:05:24 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: which code do you want
Jan 23 19:05:33 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon the activity
Jan 23 19:05:35 <StingRay_> all of it
Jan 23 19:05:38 <StingRay_> inc dialog
Jan 23 19:05:51 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: http://pastie.org/5838848
Jan 23 19:06:17 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: http://pastie.org/5838851 the dialog
Jan 23 19:06:22 <WhereIsMySpoon> the first is the activity
Jan 23 19:08:47 <trograin> Anyone? :( my app works fine but I cant get it properly signed and Zipaligned. I have followed the howtos at Google developers pages but it stil gives me the unable to sign jar message. anyone with any ideas?
Jan 23 19:14:34 <belgianguy> any Math heads here?
Jan 23 19:15:24 <belgianguy> it's about a process noise matrix in a Kalman filter :)
Jan 23 19:16:00 <belgianguy> there's accelormeter variance and bias variance
Jan 23 19:16:14 <belgianguy> accelerometer variance is a property you can just ask of the sensor
Jan 23 19:16:24 <belgianguy> but what is bias variance?
Jan 23 19:17:49 <SpeedEvil> ask over in #highaltitude, ##electronics, ##openpilot perhaps too
Jan 23 19:18:16 <StingRay_> belgianguy no idea, maybe towards a static state? So it alters interpolation ?
Jan 23 19:18:57 <belgianguy> yeah, I wonder if it's just something you can set yourself, or whether this is a calculable variable
Jan 23 19:19:14 <belgianguy> and thanks SpeedEvil, those might know :)
Jan 23 19:19:43 <SpeedEvil> also, ##physics and math
Jan 23 19:21:26 <yamenajjour> hi every body
Jan 23 19:21:36 <yamenajjour> i am facing a problem while debugging ndk portion
Jan 23 19:21:56 <yamenajjour> after i attach the debug by running ndk
Jan 23 19:22:10 <yamenajjour> and start the gdb client
Jan 23 19:22:15 <yamenajjour> i am getting the following error
Jan 23 19:22:22 <yamenajjour> Error in final launch sequence Failed to execute MI command: -gdb-set target-async off Error message from debugger back end: Cannot change this setting while the inferior is running. Cannot change this setting while the inferior is running.
Jan 23 19:22:24 <yamenajjour> for more info
Jan 23 19:22:28 <yamenajjour> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14462730/error-in-final-launch-sequence-failed-to-execute-mi-command-gdb-set-target-asyn
Jan 23 19:29:56 <boily> hi all! is it possible to take a relative or linear layout, and have it drawn on an opengl shape?
Jan 23 19:40:55 <hip2p> has anyone ever had an issue where you set a View to invisible in its layout xml, you programmatically set it to invisible in the onResume, and when you set a different view to visible, the first one becomes visible?
Jan 23 19:42:29 <StingRay_> hip2p let me guess
Jan 23 19:42:39 <StingRay_> you creating those views in code?
Jan 23 19:42:53 <hip2p> StingRay_ no
Jan 23 19:42:57 <StingRay_> oh then no
Jan 23 19:43:01 <hip2p> they're created in xml
Jan 23 19:43:13 <StingRay_> well if they have different ID's
Jan 23 19:43:18 <StingRay_> all should be good
Jan 23 19:43:26 <hip2p> yea different IDs, it's very odd. Eh, I'll deal with it later
Jan 23 19:44:20 <StingRay_> clean project sometimes fixes R ref probs
Jan 23 19:44:26 <hip2p> hmm I'll try that
Jan 23 19:44:43 <StingRay_> I had a textView thinking it was a scroll view
Jan 23 19:44:49 <StingRay_> classCast
Jan 23 19:44:55 <StingRay_> but then clean and back to norm
Jan 23 19:45:07 <StingRay_> funny thing this eclipse
Jan 23 19:45:09 <StingRay_> :)
Jan 23 19:45:12 <hip2p> nope, oh well
Jan 23 19:45:46 <hip2p> I have a lot of code to tidy up, so maybe I'll find a problem
Jan 23 19:54:15 <jdawes> Hi everyone, I've got a question for you.
Jan 23 19:55:22 <jdawes> In a ViewPager, is it possible to have a title bar connect to, say, the top left of the current page, so that when you go to the next page, there will be a new title for that page. Each title is hard-connected to the top left of the page.
Jan 23 19:55:47 <jdawes> Is this possible?
Jan 23 19:56:03 <StingRay_> is that just the content view of that particular page ?
Jan 23 19:56:23 <StingRay_> as in .... just a textView that is on that page ?
Jan 23 19:56:25 <jdawes> Right, I've got a grid view in each page, but I want to add a title to each grid.
Jan 23 19:56:32 <jdawes> Sorry for not specifying
Jan 23 19:56:41 <jdawes> Can you put multiple views per page?
Jan 23 19:56:47 <StingRay_> add a textView "above" the gidView then
Jan 23 19:57:31 <jdawes> Well, they are dynamically generated so I don't have a gridView in my XML layout.
Jan 23 19:57:47 <hip2p> man, this is mind boggling, I set one view to visible, and a different view becomes visible.
Jan 23 19:58:25 <StingRay_> hip2p log ouput of getId() on both views, just to be 100% sure
Jan 23 19:58:33 <hip2p> ok
Jan 23 19:58:55 <StingRay_> are they in a special container view or something, or controlled up-stream by something ?
Jan 23 19:59:14 <hip2p> they're set to visible / invisible in separate animations
Jan 23 19:59:22 <jdawes> They are set by using Fragments
Jan 23 20:00:37 <jdawes> so in the fragment "onCreateView" I return the gridView and is shows up, I apologize for my lack of knowledge, I'm really just getting started with Android and I've been given this project.
Jan 23 20:04:10 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: did you get a look at my stuff?
Jan 23 20:04:55 <jdawes> I'll try to explain a bit better. I've got an activity that extends FragmentActivity, inside it has a FragmentPagerAdapter class and inside that there is a Fragment class where the gridview for the page is returned in the onCreateView method
Jan 23 20:05:38 <SimonVT> So return a layout that contains both a textview and a gridview
Jan 23 20:05:41 <SimonVT> Set your title
Jan 23 20:06:39 <jdawes> I didn't know layouts were a subclass of Views, wow. Sorry.
Jan 23 20:06:49 <jdawes> Thanks. I'll try it out.
Jan 23 20:10:34 <StingRay_> hip2p do you still have a listener attached to anims that both the views are attached to ?
Jan 23 20:13:05 <brx_> if you havnt ever come across this its teh funneh http://stackoverflow.com/questions/184618/what-is-the-best-comment-in-source-code-you-have-ever-encountered
Jan 23 20:13:10 <timroes> why the hell is there the possibility to give an path to an jdk via ANDROID_JAVA_HOME to the build process, if then everys cript uses the default javac and not the one within that dir?
Jan 23 20:13:21 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon sorry no, I went off and made a coffee to wake up a bit.... I'm probably not best to ask about that as I would never use dialog's for such things
Jan 23 20:14:03 <WhereIsMySpoon> i see, np
Jan 23 20:15:30 <jdawes> SimonVT, works like a charm. Thanks for your help.
Jan 23 20:25:55 <mikedg> problem solved!
Jan 23 20:28:52 <g00s> mikedg: but you're still here :(
Jan 23 20:29:01 <mikedg> :)
Jan 23 20:40:27 <hip2p> View 'wait' is supposed to become visible on line 50, however View 'main' instead becomes visible. Can someone explain why the wrong View is becoming visible? http://pastebin.com/1JdES1SW
Jan 23 20:41:40 <sleepster> StingRay_, for your service, did you expose that service to any third party (non-internal) people?
Jan 23 20:42:08 <sleepster> the problem I have, is that I need to create a service that is implemented completely independent of any of my customers
Jan 23 20:42:18 <sleepster> so therefore, AIDL is pretty much my only option
Jan 23 20:42:54 <KaosMcRage> Hey all. I have a service (extends GCMBaseIntentService) and I'd like to be able to toggle the status (enabled/disabled) of a button in my main activity when something happens in that service. Do I need to fire off an intent and associated receiver to do this, or is there another way?
Jan 23 20:44:32 <sleepster> KaosMcRage, you could use messengers http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/Messenger.html
Jan 23 20:45:22 <KaosMcRage> sleepster: that looks promising, I'll check that out - thanks
Jan 23 20:45:26 <sleepster> sure np
Jan 23 20:45:39 <sleepster> you just pass the handler to any component and it will use that
Jan 23 20:45:49 <sleepster> to callback into your activity
Jan 23 20:46:05 <KaosMcRage> I'm new, haven't messed with handlers yet.
Jan 23 20:51:05 <replman> Hi! Is it possible to have animated stars in a ratingbar? And if, how? :-)
Jan 23 20:54:02 <tophyr> i need some help implementing billing - specifically, in testing it. i can't seem to get a signed response back from the static test products, no matter
Jan 23 20:54:03 <tophyr> what
Jan 23 20:54:27 <tophyr> any advice? the docs say they should return signed responses if you're on a developer or test account, or if the app is uploaded as a draft
Jan 23 21:00:20 <mikedg> im touching a nexus 4
Jan 23 21:00:22 <mikedg> oooh ahhh
Jan 23 21:00:34 <tophyr> careful not to crack its back
Jan 23 21:06:36 <tibbi> is it possible to put the context in a bundle?
Jan 23 21:06:40 <tibbi> or the question makes no sense :p
Jan 23 21:08:07 <hip2p> Views 'wait' and 'main' are set to invisible in the layout XML. View 'wait' is supposed to become visible on line 34, but it does not. If I remove the comment // from line 43 where 'main' is set to invisible, 'wait' appears. Can someone explain why it takes setting the already invisible 'main' to invisible again for 'wait' to appear? http://pastebin.com/PJA3zcNm
Jan 23 21:09:11 <DOSP> Hey guys, can you tell me how can i set background color of activity  for example from class file ? thanks
Jan 23 21:12:46 <tophyr> tibbi: no, contexts aren't parcelable, and if you think about it, it really wouldn't make sense to have them be
Jan 23 21:13:05 <tophyr> Parcelables are for passing data *between* contexts, basically
Jan 23 21:13:31 <jdawes> DOSP, try what is posted here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4761686/how-to-set-background-color-of-activity-to-white-programmatically
Jan 23 21:13:45 <tibbi> ok thanks
Jan 23 21:14:42 <DOSP> I think thats what i was searching for :) thank you very much jdawes
Jan 23 21:15:22 <jdawes> np
Jan 23 21:17:44 <tophyr> nobody knows about billing? sad panda :(
Jan 23 21:21:18 <tibbi> hmm having some problems finding a button with findViewById in fragment :<
Jan 23 21:21:27 <tibbi> its just returning null
Jan 23 21:21:44 <tophyr> tibbi: gist.github.com
Jan 23 21:23:30 <tibbi> moment, maybe i found it
Jan 23 21:27:16 <tibbi> cool got it
Jan 23 21:27:18 <tibbi> thanks anyway
Jan 23 21:47:09 <WhereIsMySpoon> Ok I've debugged my dialog box problem a bit more and it appears the items are actually being remembered by the dialog box, the ticks just arent showing for the items that are selected. Anyone got any idea?
Jan 23 21:51:01 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon how are the states of the checkboxes maintained ?
Jan 23 21:52:43 <WhereIsMySpoon> oh wait.
Jan 23 21:52:54 <WhereIsMySpoon> setMultiChoiceItems's 2nd parameter is what items should be checked
Jan 23 21:52:58 <WhereIsMySpoon> derp.
Jan 23 21:53:03 <WhereIsMySpoon> :D
Jan 23 21:54:08 <pleed> Hi
Jan 23 21:54:59 <pleed> here's my question: Is it principally possible (and how would one do it) to call a service, which is potentially located in another application, without being in the context of an android application component (having no Context)?
Jan 23 21:55:26 <pleed> I'm currently into the native binder interface since it does not seem to require a context object
Jan 23 21:55:38 <pleed> but maybe someone knows more than me regarding this
Jan 23 21:56:32 <pleed> As far as I've seen it's not possible on using the android framework on the java layer
Jan 23 22:01:58 <replman> Hi! Is it possible to have animated stars in a ratingbar?
Jan 23 22:02:12 <StingRay_> animated  how ?
Jan 23 22:02:23 <StingRay_> neways, odds are yes
Jan 23 22:02:35 <StingRay_> depending on how "animated"
Jan 23 22:03:48 <replman> Lets say i have 10 images of a star and i want to play them endless in a loop
Jan 23 22:04:27 <StingRay_> you mean a fame animation ?
Jan 23 22:04:56 <StingRay_> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/graphics/drawable/AnimationDrawable.html
Jan 23 22:06:30 <replman> I already tried to set <item android:id="@android:id/background" android:drawable="@drawable/anim_star" />. But then only the first image is shown and the animation isn't running
Jan 23 22:06:41 <JulienDev> During an animation I need to resize a button with singleLine=true but it is extremely laggy. When using lines=1 and singleLine=false the animation is smooth. Do you know the reason? Animation is also smooth with TextView and  singleLine=true
Jan 23 22:07:33 <replman> ...where anim_star is a <animation-list>
Jan 23 22:07:52 <hip2p> Any idea why View 'main' appears at line 5 and then disappears after line 15? If I add a breakpoint to line 15, 'main' doesn't disappear. http://pastebin.com/AzLTSCDR
Jan 23 22:08:02 <StingRay_> replman read that link
Jan 23 22:10:53 <StingRay_> hip2p you mean main disappears when wait is meant to ?
Jan 23 22:11:05 <hip2p> yeah
Jan 23 22:11:06 <StingRay_> hip2p pastebin the layout
Jan 23 22:11:55 <hip2p> StingRay_: http://pastebin.com/RCi0nYnw
Jan 23 22:12:19 <hip2p> main is screen_main and wait is screen_wait
Jan 23 22:12:39 <StingRay_> i figured that
Jan 23 22:12:41 <StingRay_> ;)
Jan 23 22:13:17 <hip2p> it's almost like the animation is so short that by the time wait is told to disappear, main hasn't finished getting set, so it gets taken away too
Jan 23 22:13:33 <hip2p> and so by setting the break point, I give main enough time to get set... *shrugs*
Jan 23 22:14:26 <StingRay_> hip2p same thing happens if you setvis on main outside the listener, above when you call it ?
Jan 23 22:14:36 <StingRay_> or above when you start the anim
Jan 23 22:15:14 <hip2p> I'll try setting main to visible and wait to invisible in the onResume and disabling the animation
Jan 23 22:15:23 <hip2p> if that's what you mean
Jan 23 22:15:34 <StingRay_> i just ment when you call that anim to play
Jan 23 22:15:41 <StingRay_> the line b4 doing that
Jan 23 22:15:48 <StingRay_> setvis on main
Jan 23 22:17:10 <hip2p> what happens is wait gets set to visible, some stuff happens in background, then back on the main thread, the animation is triggered with main.startAnimation(fadeIntoMain);
Jan 23 22:17:35 <hip2p> I can add another line where I set main to visible outside of the listener
Jan 23 22:17:41 <hip2p> instead of inside to see if anything changes
Jan 23 22:19:52 <hip2p> I put main.setVisibility(View.VISIBLE); before I call the animation, and it still removes main along with wait
Jan 23 22:20:27 <hip2p> but again if I set the breakpoint, main doesn't disappear
Jan 23 22:25:53 <hip2p> and if I set main to visible before the animation and in the animation start, it doesn't disappear
Jan 23 22:26:10 <StingRay_> for a laugh
Jan 23 22:26:12 <hip2p> setting it before and during fixes the problem, but that seems silly
Jan 23 22:26:13 <StingRay_> call remove view
Jan 23 22:26:37 <StingRay_> what is it your doing?
Jan 23 22:26:46 <StingRay_> would you not just have a dialog for this
Jan 23 22:26:53 <StingRay_> rather than lots of hidden views
Jan 23 22:26:58 <StingRay_> ?
Jan 23 22:27:07 <hip2p> I bring up a loading screen while the activity gets ready
Jan 23 22:27:18 <hip2p> when it's done, I fade into the main activity screen
Jan 23 22:27:28 <bankai_> oh man i hate loading screens >_<
Jan 23 22:27:54 <hip2p> I'm not sure what the alternative is. A progressdialog is essentially the same thing
Jan 23 22:28:20 <StingRay_> what are you loading ?
Jan 23 22:28:31 <hip2p> I call some user data from a mySQL database
Jan 23 22:28:42 <hip2p> and i populate a few Views with some other mySQL data
Jan 23 22:29:08 <StingRay_> is that data known b4 firing the activity to view it ?
Jan 23 22:29:21 <StingRay_> as in the source / call
Jan 23 22:29:58 <StingRay_> cause I populate popus and choices from mySql
Jan 23 22:30:01 <hip2p> the activity is started first, then the loading screen comes up, then the data is retrieved
Jan 23 22:30:16 <replman> StingRay_: So it looks like the only thing i have to do is to start the animation. But how to start it? I set the ratingbar this way: http://pastebin.com/cMABBsR5
Jan 23 22:30:17 <hip2p> if there's no connection, the loading screen switches to a no connection screen
Jan 23 22:30:36 <hip2p> it's like bring a curtain down inbetween acts in a play, ya know
Jan 23 22:31:06 <StingRay_> replman did you read that link
Jan 23 22:31:11 <replman> yes
Jan 23 22:31:21 <StingRay_> replman the bit that is titled "how to start your anim"
Jan 23 22:31:46 <solidoodlesuppor> Anyone do any work with GPS in their apps? Is it hard to pull off? I have a client who wants augmented reality + GPS
Jan 23 22:32:01 <replman> StingRay_: Yes. They say: AnimationDrawable frameAnimation = (AnimationDrawable) img.getBackground();, frameAnimation.start()
Jan 23 22:32:14 <replman> But if i do this with the Ratingbar, i get null as drawable
Jan 23 22:32:50 <StingRay_> cause your not setting the drawable are you???
Jan 23 22:32:55 <StingRay_> android:progressDrawable  <---- your paste
Jan 23 22:33:17 <belgianguy> anyone familiar with NDK and Sensor variance ?
Jan 23 22:33:43 <replman> The animation is in <item android:id="@android:id/background" android:drawable="@drawable/anim_android" />
Jan 23 22:34:02 <StingRay_> replman i know
Jan 23 22:34:12 <StingRay_> u said that already
Jan 23 22:34:15 <replman> i want the stars to be animated when no selection is made
Jan 23 22:34:35 <Quacked> if I want to make a countdown timer for given minutes that sounds an alarm, is AlarmManager the best option?
Jan 23 22:34:51 <solidoodlesuppor> Any ideas on GPS?
Jan 23 22:35:05 <StingRay_> solidoodlesuppor I have done some location tracking
Jan 23 22:35:10 <StingRay_> ideas on it ?
Jan 23 22:35:26 <replman> If i try to start the animation by ((AnimationDrawable) mRatingbar.getBackground()).start(); i get a nullpointerexception because getBackground() returns null
Jan 23 22:35:29 <StingRay_> not really, other than making the sirf chips better
Jan 23 22:35:54 <solidoodlesuppor> StingRay_: Erm I have a client wants augmented reality + GPS. Never done either. Didn't know if it was hard or what
Jan 23 22:36:01 <StingRay_> replman thats cause you have not set a backgroud
Jan 23 22:36:04 <solidoodlesuppor> I could see things getting tricky
Jan 23 22:36:07 <StingRay_> look at your own pastebin
Jan 23 22:36:23 <tophyr> i need some help implementing billing - specifically, in testing it. i can't seem to get a signed response back from the static test products, no matter what. any advice? app is built and signed with release key, uploaded as draft to play store, AND i'm testing the static products with a designated "test account". no signed response. only way i can get a signed response is to buy an actual product... kind of frustrating.
Jan 23 22:36:23 <replman> ah, you are right :-)
Jan 23 22:37:21 <StingRay_> solidoodlesuppor depends, aug real and gps, you gonna rely on quite possible the weakest sensor set, gps 50-5m ... orientation, calibration slips
Jan 23 22:37:50 <solidoodlesuppor> ah
Jan 23 22:38:03 <StingRay_> dont know of many apps that get gps + aug reality quite right
Jan 23 22:38:19 <StingRay_> and there is a massive diff in quality from even jus the handsets I own
Jan 23 22:38:41 <StingRay_> EG. asus seems to make skyMap un-usable
Jan 23 22:38:51 <StingRay_> on my transformers and nex7
Jan 23 22:39:11 <replman> StingRay_: Hehe, now it works :-). Thank you!
Jan 23 22:39:15 <StingRay_> it thinks I'm looking about 30' away from where I am
Jan 23 22:40:22 <solidoodlesuppor> hmmm but maybe I could make something presentable for the client? .... they don't seem too bright ^_^
Jan 23 22:40:35 <dragorn> there are a bunch of AR toolkits out there
Jan 23 22:48:27 <solidoodlesuppor> #wp7-dev
Jan 23 22:49:20 <sonOfRa> any of you guys use eclipse on ubuntu and ran into this weird javadoc "rendering" before?: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/47991161/javadoc-ubuntu.png https://dl.dropbox.com/u/47991161/javadoc-win7.png
Jan 23 22:49:59 <sonOfRa> it feels like ubuntu doesn't even treat it as html or something like that
Jan 23 22:52:08 <pleed> Is it possible to call a service using binder framework in another process without having access to a "Context" object?
Jan 23 22:53:33 <StingRay_> sonOfRa i just but deb Mint on my macbook today, and have all sorts of java problems...that look pale in comparison :)
Jan 23 22:56:53 <SpNg> When making a home screen launcher app, is it possible to not have the default settings revert when a new update is pushed to the market? My tests show the custom launcher app is removed and the home screen set to default, and the launch has to be reset.
Jan 23 22:58:17 <ron_frown> ladies
Jan 23 22:58:56 <ron_frown> just reworked how firmware uploading worked with some embedded android hardware (firmware for one of the chips)
Jan 23 22:59:05 <ron_frown> man burned through the day REAL quick
Jan 23 23:00:42 <g00s> ron_frown: did you put that on your TPS report?
Jan 23 23:01:02 <ron_frown> I dont need to, my boss is out of town and we found out about this problem last night
Jan 23 23:01:08 <ron_frown> he was like shitting himself badly
Jan 23 23:01:08 <ron_frown> haha
Jan 23 23:01:24 <ron_frown> the fix wont go unnoticed
Jan 23 23:02:21 <g00s> he was out of town and … shitting himself. sounds like a great manager :)
Jan 23 23:02:26 <Quacked> if I want to make a countdown timer for given minutes that sounds an alarm, is AlarmManager the best option?
Jan 23 23:02:44 <ron_frown> quacked depends
Jan 23 23:02:52 <ron_frown> its good for waking up the device etc
Jan 23 23:03:12 <ron_frown> but for displaying the counting down of seconds, the android AOSP apps actually just create datetime form time.seconds
Jan 23 23:03:21 <ron_frown> then have a regular timer updating the views
Jan 23 23:03:33 <ron_frown> that way if the app goes to sleep you can still wake it up (alarm manager with wakelock etc)
Jan 23 23:03:48 <Quacked> Hmm
Jan 23 23:04:06 <Quacked> It's a cooking timer, so maximum countdown would probably be 60 minutes
Jan 23 23:04:50 <ron_frown> quacked, just get source for alarm clock app
Jan 23 23:04:54 <ron_frown> as it has countdown timers
Jan 23 23:04:55 <replman> StingRay_: I have another problem: When i set the drawable to the animation-list, i only have one star which is scaled to the size of the ratingbar. If i set the drawable to the image there are 5 stars...
Jan 23 23:06:58 <Quacked> getting the source kinda looked like a hassle
Jan 23 23:07:48 <Quacked> or maybe it is this: http://grepcode.com/file/repository.grepcode.com/java/ext/com.google.android/android-apps/4.1.1_r1/com/android/deskclock/AlarmClock.java?av=f
Jan 23 23:11:04 <Quacked> is android.os.CountDownTimer accurate? I know setInterval for javascript isnt, so in javascript you should rather use Date()
Jan 23 23:23:40 <wabz> so if I have an activity that wants to know if connectivity has changed, is it reasonable to have a broadcastreceiver that the activity sorta hooks into? i.e. when the activity resumes tell the broadcast receiver that it wants to know about changes
Jan 23 23:23:49 <wabz> or something better?
Jan 23 23:32:17 <wabz> http://developer.android.com/reference/android/net/ConnectivityManager.html#CONNECTIVITY_ACTION
Jan 23 23:32:20 <wabz> this is realyl confusing
Jan 23 23:32:21 <ron_frown> I want to say there are ways you can quickly query activity
Jan 23 23:32:39 <wabz> "The NetworkInfo for the affected network is sent as an extra; it should be consulted to see what kind of connectivity event occurred."
Jan 23 23:32:57 <wabz> public static final String EXTRA_NETWORK_INFO This constant was deprecated in API level 14.
Jan 23 23:32:58 <g00s> i think its also changed a bit since GB
Jan 23 23:33:04 <Winslow> Does the google analytics sdk v1.4.2 no longer send data properly to the google analytics web portal?
Jan 23 23:38:07 <ron_frown> is there much of a case where an activity would need to know anyway
Jan 23 23:38:19 <ron_frown> are you using raw sockets to connect this to that anyway?
Jan 23 23:39:04 <wabz> it's long form video streaming
Jan 23 23:39:18 <wabz> requirement to notify the user if wifi drops out
Jan 23 23:39:29 <wabz> because we have terrific data plans here...
Jan 23 23:40:11 <replman> StingRay_: still there?
Jan 23 23:40:23 <StingRay_> ish
Jan 23 23:41:28 <replman> Can you help me with the background problem? I cannot figure out how to fix that :-(
Jan 23 23:41:43 <wabz> hmm maybe I want WifiManager
Jan 23 23:42:13 <StingRay_> replman a background ?
Jan 23 23:43:15 <replman> there is this layer-list with background, secondaryProgress and progress. If i set the background-item to the animation drawable i only see one star instead of 5
Jan 23 23:43:38 <replman> if i set it to the star image i see 5 stars
Jan 23 23:44:02 <StingRay_> I dont understand
Jan 23 23:44:04 <StingRay_> sorry
Jan 23 23:44:33 <replman> ok, i'll try to show you
Jan 23 23:49:42 <replman> whats a good pastebin for images?
Jan 23 23:49:51 <wabz> imgur.com
Jan 23 23:50:08 <replman> thanks
Jan 23 23:51:12 <tona> how can i move one file internal memory to sd card
Jan 23 23:51:33 <replman> StingRay_: see http://imgur.com/gst09it,TRgkRRU#0 and http://imgur.com/gst09it,TRgkRRU#1
Jan 23 23:52:34 <StingRay_> replman ok, I see that you have set a drawable consisting of one start and then another consisting of 5
Jan 23 23:53:12 <StingRay_> start = star
Jan 23 23:54:49 <replman> That is the only difference: http://pastebin.com/HiGSxtTt
Jan 23 23:55:32 <replman> where anim_android is a xml file containing the animation-list and android_1 is a png
Jan 23 23:55:58 <replman> android_1 is also used in the animation-list as one of the animation images
Jan 23 23:56:07 <StingRay_> android_1 = png = 1 star ?
Jan 23 23:56:13 <replman> right
Jan 23 23:56:30 <StingRay_> and your surprised at what exactly ?
Jan 23 23:56:34 <StingRay_> I still dont get it
Jan 23 23:56:36 <StingRay_> :)
Jan 23 23:56:39 <replman> :-)
Jan 23 23:57:07 <StingRay_> replman your attempting to replace a "widget" with a drawable ?
Jan 23 23:57:13 <StingRay_> is that what you mean ?
Jan 23 23:57:17 <StingRay_> or are doing
Jan 23 23:59:32 <replman> there is this layer-list for the ratingbar with 3 items background, secondaryProgress, progress. If i set the drawable for the background-item to android_1 (png, 1 star) i get 5 stars on the screen. If i set the drawable for the background-item to anim_android (xml, animation-list of android_1, _2, _3, _4) i only get one large scaled star
Jan 24 00:01:46 <oGMo> aren't there higher-res android devices than 1280x800?
Jan 24 00:01:51 <MajorZero> I wan't to store 3 buttons next to eachother in a tablerow of a tablelayout, but everytime I add a button, its completely far apart from the previous button. How do I make them right next to eachother?
Jan 24 00:02:14 <oGMo> (max i see in the emulator)
Jan 24 00:05:15 <replman> StingRay_: did you get my problem?
Jan 24 00:10:36 <StingRay_> replman but are you not attempting to just use a drawable as the replacement of a widget and viewType of ratingsBar or something ?
Jan 24 00:11:02 <StingRay_> would you not have to create your own view class that extends the rating bar to do what you want ?
Jan 24 00:12:01 <replman> i just want the stars to have a little animation (some glow)...
Jan 24 00:12:48 <StingRay_> replman your wanting to animate a widget though, that consist of more than just drawables, it's a widget....I could be wrong
Jan 24 00:12:57 <StingRay_> but my approach would be creating a customView
Jan 24 00:13:14 <replman> you mean to write my own ratingbar?
Jan 24 00:13:19 <StingRay_> ya
Jan 24 00:13:21 <StingRay_> well no
Jan 24 00:13:26 <StingRay_> extend the one thats there
Jan 24 00:14:01 <replman> and what should i do inside my ratingbar? I mean what should i override?
Jan 24 00:14:19 <StingRay_> whatever you need to
Jan 24 00:14:26 <StingRay_> to get the functions you want
Jan 24 00:15:10 <replman> somehow everything is there, except that when i replace the image drawable by the animation the behavior of the ratingbar is different
Jan 24 00:15:21 <replman> the image is repeated 5x, the animation not
Jan 24 00:15:40 <StingRay_> yeah
Jan 24 00:15:52 <StingRay_> cause it's a complex view
Jan 24 00:15:58 <StingRay_> not just a drawable to begin with
Jan 24 00:16:31 <replman> so is there a way to solve this easily?
Jan 24 00:16:33 <StingRay_> how would it know how to apply animations to the 5 drawables
Jan 24 00:16:44 <StingRay_> how would it know how the anims relate to each other
Jan 24 00:16:59 <StingRay_> yeah, extend the ratingsBar class
Jan 24 00:17:04 <StingRay_> and do your own drawable
Jan 24 00:17:24 <StingRay_> thats what I had to do when I wanted a simple switch that animates
Jan 24 00:17:33 <StingRay_> rather than just has 2 states
Jan 24 00:19:01 <replman> what exactly do you mean with "do your own drawable"?
Jan 24 00:19:30 <replman> Sorry, i'm pretty new in developing android apps...
Jan 24 00:19:59 <StingRay_> replman well I mean doing your own view
Jan 24 00:20:22 <StingRay_> wrong wording sorry
Jan 24 00:22:15 <replman> Isn't it the same then writing my own ratingbar (without extending the one from android)?
Jan 24 00:22:47 <WhereIsMySpoon> Hi - how do I make buttons dynamically resize so that if I turn the screen, the buttons will fit the screen length at the bottom of the screen?
Jan 24 00:23:07 <StingRay_> no i mean creation of your own view by extending a view that almost suits your purpose
Jan 24 00:26:30 <WhereIsMySpoon> ive made sure the width is wrap_content but all they seem to do is snap themselves to the minimum size needed to contain the word of the button
Jan 24 00:26:45 <replman> StingRay_: Ok, i have to think about that...tomorrow. It's 1:25am here so i will stop now. Thank you very much for you help!
Jan 24 00:27:01 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon  what do you thing "WRAP" content means ?
Jan 24 00:27:21 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: well i went to multiple SO posts and they were saying to use that, so
Jan 24 00:27:41 <WhereIsMySpoon> i tried fill_parent but all that does is make one button fill the whole width of the screen
Jan 24 00:27:48 <WhereIsMySpoon> :|
Jan 24 00:28:13 <StingRay_> WhereIsMySpoon look at layoutWeight
Jan 24 00:38:15 <WhereIsMySpoon> StingRay_: ha, got it, thx
Jan 24 00:39:33 <belgianguy> ouch, seems Apple stock tumbled by 10%
Jan 24 00:40:06 <belgianguy> and Google rose by 6%
Jan 24 00:41:30 <WhereIsMySpoon> belgianguy: hm, how come
Jan 24 00:41:38 <g00s> apple doesn't seem to be a very rational stock
Jan 24 00:44:49 <funkbox> g00s: why not
Jan 24 00:45:13 <funkbox> their PE 11
Jan 24 00:45:49 <funkbox> comparison, msft is 14.9, and amazon is something like 2500
Jan 24 01:06:27 <WhereIsMySpoon> funkbox: what's PE?
Jan 24 01:10:57 <StingRay_> price earnings
Jan 24 01:11:01 <StingRay_> a ratio
Jan 24 01:11:28 <vuln> By running my android app with this piece of code, http://pastebin.com/CBW0BYVF, it means when he activity set by my HomeClass is started, CurrentClass wil be destroyed? (.finish())
Jan 24 01:37:14 <StingRay_> vuln finish() will stop destroy yes
Jan 24 01:38:03 <vuln> StingRay_: that snippet of code does exactly what I said, right?
Jan 24 01:39:50 <StingRay_> it finish() will close the activity that it is called in
Jan 24 01:40:47 <pierpark> Are there any secrets to getting this emulator to run faster? It's been slug as hell for the last day... and I develop on an Alienware M18x with like 8GB of ram, etc... the Nexus 7 avd has been doing the "Android" thing for like 3 minutes... grr
Jan 24 01:41:09 <pierpark> its generally slug, anyway.. but today has been stupidly slow
Jan 24 01:41:22 <StingRay_> use a device
Jan 24 01:41:27 <StingRay_> that fixes it
Jan 24 01:41:34 <pierpark> hahaha.
Jan 24 01:41:54 <pierpark> Any ideas for the cheapest place for a N7 then?
Jan 24 01:42:01 <StingRay_> google ?
Jan 24 01:42:16 <StingRay_> well, the play store
Jan 24 01:42:20 <pierpark> k
Jan 24 01:42:27 <vuln> StingRay_: Thank you ;)
Jan 24 01:42:33 <vuln> How long have you been developing in Androið²
Jan 24 01:42:34 <vuln> d?*
Jan 24 01:42:51 <StingRay_> year and a half
Jan 24 01:44:01 <vuln> StingRay_: Have you been paid for it, or it's just a hobby so far?
Jan 24 01:44:07 <StingRay_> hobby
Jan 24 01:44:13 <StingRay_> I'm a vfx/games artist
Jan 24 01:44:28 <StingRay_> but slowly becoming an android dev
Jan 24 01:44:30 <StingRay_> :)
Jan 24 01:46:32 <vuln> StingRay_: nice. Congrats and thanks for being in here helping new developers :)
Jan 24 01:46:47 <vuln> developing for iOS seems to still be more profitable, but I think it will slightly change soon
Jan 24 01:46:58 <StingRay_> well I'm actually also an autodesk instructor/trainer
Jan 24 01:47:06 <StingRay_> so tis in my nature to help when i can
Jan 24 01:47:45 <vuln> Nice :)
Jan 24 01:49:36 <StingRay_> so if you have any art/color/3d/rendering questions... I'm better at those by quite a margin
Jan 24 01:49:55 <JakeWharton> pierpark: are you using the x86 emu with GPU acceleration?
Jan 24 01:51:23 <StingRay_> JakeWharton out of interest why cant I see any intel images in sdk manager ?
Jan 24 01:51:37 <StingRay_> or are they separate somewhere ?
Jan 24 01:51:40 <funkbox> WhereIsMySpoon: PE is price earnings ratio
Jan 24 01:51:42 <pierpark> I put in Use Host GPU and... and that armeabi thing is in the drop down... Intel x86 is a choice and so is something called mips... it finally loaded my app a minute ago but if I were to do a change and rebuild, it would probably take 10 minutes again
Jan 24 01:51:53 <pierpark> JakeWharton ^^
Jan 24 01:51:58 <funkbox> anyone have any tips on getting a ticket to google io ?
Jan 24 01:52:07 <JakeWharton> pierpark: if you have the emulator set up correctly it will be faster than any physical device
Jan 24 01:52:24 <funkbox> StingRay_: you should be able to see it
Jan 24 01:52:25 <vuln> StingRay_: Do you know any tutorial/article about making your Android apps look nicer? :P
Jan 24 01:52:28 <vuln> mor awesome?
Jan 24 01:52:41 <StingRay_> funkbox may not shown in "OSX"
Jan 24 01:52:48 <funkbox> i use OS X and i can see them
Jan 24 01:52:56 <funkbox> you need to install that intel hyper crack thing
Jan 24 01:53:01 <StingRay_> oh sod it then
Jan 24 01:53:06 * StingRay_ looks really hard
Jan 24 01:53:53 <StingRay_> funkbox hyper crack ?
Jan 24 01:54:18 <JakeWharton> pierpark: http://codebutler.com/2012/10/10/configuring-a-usable-android-emulator/
Jan 24 01:55:27 <funkbox> yeah that has all the stuff
Jan 24 01:57:05 <StingRay_> i dont have intel in extras
Jan 24 01:57:30 <pierpark> thanks brb phone
Jan 24 01:58:34 <StingRay_> funkbox from the standard adt package for mac you have extras/intel ?
Jan 24 02:01:59 <StingRay_> oh listing by repo in sdk manager show intel stuff as disabled
Jan 24 02:11:32 <tona> hello
Jan 24 02:11:41 <tona> lge e400 android net mtp device unknown
Jan 24 02:11:54 <tona> how can i deply my apps
Jan 24 02:14:21 <tona> can someone help me
Jan 24 02:15:43 <StingRay_> what kinda help do you want ?
Jan 24 02:16:16 <StingRay_> seems like you have a windows driver issue
Jan 24 02:20:23 <funkbox> tona: what does any of that mean ?
Jan 24 02:26:23 <StingRay_> think he means there is a prob with mtp connection, and that debug being on, his device is not showing in adt
Jan 24 02:26:43 <StingRay_> but I'm guessing there :)
Jan 24 02:27:51 <StingRay_> funkbox you have many monitors in OSX ? or just the one ?
Jan 24 02:28:11 <funkbox> StingRay_: yes, 3.
Jan 24 02:29:20 <StingRay_> ooo do you know the coordinates across you monitors ? I have 3x24" and for some reason any AVD wont fire up if I close it on the left most due to negative window coords
Jan 24 02:29:37 <StingRay_> do you get that? or is your left monitor your primary one >
Jan 24 02:29:40 <StingRay_> >?
Jan 24 02:29:59 <funkbox> i don't know
Jan 24 02:30:01 <StingRay_> my primary is middle
Jan 24 02:30:07 <StingRay_> I think thats my problem
Jan 24 02:30:43 <StingRay_> but you dont have probs ? and your left monitor is the primary ?
Jan 24 02:31:46 <snowinferno> Hi all, I'm trying to add facebook login to my app, but my device doesn't have the Facebook app installed and I would rather not install it. Does anybody know if the Facebook SDK requires the Facebook app to be installed on the device?
Jan 24 02:32:18 <StingRay_> snowinferno I would guess it would do due to accountSync
Jan 24 02:32:27 <StingRay_> dunno though
Jan 24 02:32:51 <snowinferno> StingRay_: i would think using the SDK, nothing would be required other than including it in your project
Jan 24 02:35:37 <cliffer> i always getting a java.io.FileNotFoundException while trying to fetch an image.php. just 4 lines of code: http://pastebin.com/UXw6HbGU. normal images are working.
Jan 24 02:56:56 <jda2000> Is it still true that you have to build the
Jan 24 02:57:43 <jda2000> Aosp code on a 64 bit linux?
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