**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 16 02:59:59 2013 Sep 16 03:01:54 oops Sep 16 03:16:30 java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to start activity ComponentInfo{net.bitwise.apps.clevertext/net.bitwise.apps.clevertext.MainActivity}: android.view.InflateException: Binary XML file line #26: Error inflating class android.widget.ListView Sep 16 03:16:40 what is the minimum sdk required for google gcm? Sep 16 03:17:11 Bitwise, Sounds like a fun time Sep 16 03:19:00 Sonicadvance1, Idfk how to add a menu xD Sep 16 03:25:06 <^cheeky> if i setupListadapter(adapter ) in my onpostExecute() in my oncreate() of my listFragment .. is calling notifyDataSetChanged() in my doesnt update my view Sep 16 03:26:03 jasta: we didn't roll it as much as customize Google's Sep 16 03:34:23 <^cheeky> i tried seting the listadapter of the fragment .. in onattatch, onActivitycreated still .. nothing Sep 16 03:34:31 <^cheeky> could some one shed some light please Sep 16 03:36:32 I want a list of options, dynamically generated, with an on/off button next to each one. How can I do this? Sep 16 03:37:41 <^cheeky> Bitwise: ... you gonna use an activity ?? fragment ... Sep 16 03:38:58 <^cheeky> Bitwise: your layout for that activity/fragment is not being initiated ... i think Sep 16 03:39:33 ^cheeky, What? Sep 16 03:40:47 <^cheeky> your error Sep 16 03:40:56 I already figured that out. Sep 16 03:41:03 <^cheeky> i am sorry i did not read your previouse backlog Sep 16 03:41:07 <^cheeky> oh ok sorry Sep 16 03:42:23 I had an invalid attribute in the TextView tag Sep 16 03:45:02 <^cheeky> ahhh ok Sep 16 03:45:11 <^cheeky> yeah that woudl do it Sep 16 03:45:21 <^cheeky> you using eclipse or AS ? Sep 16 03:46:02 IntelliJ Sep 16 03:46:29 <^cheeky> oh nice Sep 16 03:47:48 <^cheeky> i dunno if its a good idea . i started to learn android development using android studio :/ rather than eclipse Sep 16 03:48:12 IntelliJ IDEA is the only IDE that has not pissed me off somehow. It's kind of strange. Sep 16 03:48:24 give it time ;) Sep 16 03:48:29 <^cheeky> I wish i knew about that earlier !!!!!!! Sep 16 03:48:44 It looks like AndroidStudio is the same as IntelliJ Sep 16 03:48:51 <^cheeky> i like eclipse tho .. but for android dev i am in <3 with AS Sep 16 03:48:57 The EAP did break the sbt plugin, but I forgive it for that because they've got a giant warning that says it might eat a kitten. Sep 16 03:49:17 nomnomnom Sep 16 03:49:21 Android Studio is a limited version of IntelliJ specifically for Android dev based on IntelliJ 13's EAP Sep 16 03:49:22 <^cheeky> ewwww thats gonna be all furrry !!!!! Sep 16 03:49:34 So it basically is IntelliJ, but with less stuff. Sep 16 03:49:45 <^cheeky> i absoloutely love it !!!! Sep 16 03:49:47 not really. afaik, nothing is cut out (compared with the community version) Sep 16 03:49:56 <^cheeky> i am just afraid i am getting spoilt by it :/ Sep 16 03:49:59 <^cheeky> :( Sep 16 03:50:13 Dunno, I haven't tried it, but my assumption is a large number of the plugins aren't included by default. Sep 16 03:50:26 yeah, maybe plugins Sep 16 03:50:35 but that's easy to fix, if needed :) Sep 16 03:50:42 Never really felt the need to actually download AS when I've already got IntelliJ. Sep 16 03:51:10 yea Sep 16 03:54:08 <^cheeky> man i wish i knew about IntelliJ prior Sep 16 03:54:10 <^cheeky> oh well Sep 16 03:54:14 <^cheeky> eating kittens now Sep 16 03:54:44 How can I create a dynamic list with two elements, text on the left and a on/off switch on the right. Sep 16 03:57:32 <^cheeky> LinearLayout Sep 16 04:00:48 <^cheeky> Bitwise: what do you mean dynamic ? Sep 16 04:01:07 ^cheeky, I want to load a list of the names of contacts. Sep 16 04:01:31 <^cheeky> ok ... Sep 16 04:01:38 <^cheeky> so whats the problem ? Sep 16 04:08:06 ^cheeky: I suspect the problem is "I don't know how to do that" Sep 16 04:09:49 <^cheeky> heh Sep 16 04:09:51 <^cheeky> ... Sep 16 04:09:54 <^cheeky> which part Sep 16 04:15:01 Has anyone in here used something like the IOIO board. I am trying to use the libaries and follow the examples, however, I need to pass a command from the UIThread (Main Activity) to the Looper thread that the IOIO creates. I can't seem to get it working using handlers like I have done with other situations. This is due to the fact that I do not know where to create the Handler (no run function in the looper class)??? Sep 16 04:17:02 epsilonorion_: you can directly specify the looper when creating the handler Sep 16 04:17:15 Instead of having to create it on the looper thread Sep 16 04:19:57 JesusFreke: I thought something like that could be done, but I can't find any example of doing it. I tried creating it in the looper class, but had no luck Sep 16 04:20:15 epsilonorion_: you pass the looper to the constructor of the handler Sep 16 04:20:29 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/Handler.html#Handler(android.os.Looper) Sep 16 04:22:34 JesusFreke, gotta hack intellij plug-ins to support As, maybe the manifest only Sep 16 04:22:58 but the majority of intellij plug-ins are not enabled to run on AS Sep 16 04:23:10 ah, ok Sep 16 04:23:14 didn't realize that Sep 16 04:23:17 JesusFreke: Thanks. I tried that, but it won't take the looper for IOIO since it is a special interface, extending IOIOLooper Sep 16 04:23:40 epsilonorion_: does IOIOLooper extend looper? Or does it contain a looper? Sep 16 04:23:52 If it contains a looper, can you get access to it? Sep 16 04:24:26 checking now Sep 16 04:24:56 looking at: http://www.java2s.com/Open-Source/Android-Open-Source-App/Development/AirCastingAndroidClient/ioio/lib/util/IOIOLooper.java.htm ... I don't think IOIOLooper has anything to do with Android's looper Sep 16 04:25:33 which means you won't be able to use Android's Handler with it Sep 16 04:29:29 Yeah, that is what I am seeing. I dug through IOIOLooper and IOIOActivity but had no luck. Sep 16 04:29:59 Does Android have any other way to pass an intent (or something similar) from the UI Thread to the IOIO "thread" Sep 16 04:30:54 It has nothing to do with Android at this point, it all depends on what the IOIOLooper supports Sep 16 04:32:24 It might be possible to create an Android Looper in the IOIOLooper and make it an actual Looper thread Sep 16 04:32:35 but that might also screw up other things Sep 16 04:32:52 I don't know enough about the architecture of this IOIO stuff to know :) Sep 16 04:34:44 no problem Sep 16 04:35:44 Hoped it may be more Android related. I will take a deeper look into the architecture and see what I can do Sep 16 04:45:28 so.. i'm a beginner at android/obj oriented prog. i'm trying to learn by doing simple things. i'm simply trying to do network request, then update a textview with the result. i've spent days trying to do just this.. what's the best way to handle this? Sep 16 04:46:11 do it faster Sep 16 04:46:18 ha! Sep 16 04:47:20 my first approach was to create a separate class that extends asynctask.. but i'm having trouble getting the response back to the main ui Sep 16 04:49:24 what's the actual problem ? Sep 16 04:50:51 well, its stuff i can google and eventually find the answer for. what i'm really asking is.. how would you write a simple app that simply made a network request and displayed the results on a textview Sep 16 04:51:23 as in.. is that the best approach? ie using a separate async task Sep 16 04:52:11 it just seems like there's so much involved to do such a simple thing Sep 16 04:52:56 depends what you're doing really, but for short downloads or feed grabs asynctask is fine Sep 16 04:53:40 but how do you update the textview if the textview is in a separate class? Sep 16 04:55:53 ^cheeky: I suspect the problem is "I don't know how to do that" Sep 16 04:55:57 Essentially, yes. Sep 16 04:59:01 use an inner class Sep 16 05:27:07 <^cheeky> is it good practice to always have inner or class .. created extending handlerThread for background tasks ? Sep 16 05:29:12 if it's used only inside the outer class - it's fine Sep 16 05:29:32 I always tend to create normal classes for such things though Sep 16 05:29:50 <^cheeky> sorry i should have been more specific Sep 16 05:30:05 <^cheeky> yeah i meant always create .. class for it Sep 16 06:30:26 trying to change the visibility of an ImageButton.... well more basic than that, i'm trying to initialize a variable to represent an image button.ImageButton imageButton = (ImageButton) findViewById(R.id.imageButton); Sep 16 06:31:03 R.id.imageButton has a non zero value... but when i try to findViewId at runtim it returns null Sep 16 06:33:34 supercell: well, there is no such view with that id in the content tree right now. Sep 16 06:33:47 you might be trying that call before setContentView(). Sep 16 06:34:30 ah yeah, I just stumbled across a stackoverflow talking about the scope etc and that.... vs Activity.findViewById Sep 16 06:34:31 thanks Sep 16 06:44:01 Halo all, I have a problem about EditText. Even I set the ellipsize to end, the EditText doesn't show "…" at the end when the text is too long. How can I have ellipsize at the end when the EditText is unfocus? Thanks Sep 16 07:05:34 reading about this blogging platform 'ghost' : For instance, the native installation has no provisions for commenting, as it’s intended more for publishing than discussion. Sep 16 07:05:39 phew, thats great - somebody gets it Sep 16 07:05:57 google+ might be cool if there were no comments Sep 16 07:06:18 hi g00s o/ Sep 16 07:06:27 hey hackkitten :) Sep 16 07:06:34 yeah, i kinda wish google+ would downgrade them or do a kind of slashdot style of only showing the highest ranking ones by default Sep 16 07:06:34 comments are often overrated, yes :3 Sep 16 07:06:51 I have noticed that no G+ search results ever show up in Google Sep 16 07:07:03 must mean there's no useful content on there :3 Sep 16 07:07:28 *sigh* Sep 16 07:07:48 we're waiting for jasta to be the first to put some useful content on google+ Sep 16 07:07:58 -whyareyoukeeping is throwing stackoverflowerror in proguard for a class it should definitely not be keeping but is Sep 16 07:08:01 I actually put interesting analyses on G+ Sep 16 07:08:04 but they don't show up either Sep 16 07:08:13 * hackkitten pats jasta Sep 16 07:08:26 * hackkitten got her NDK-based app to link and run without issues first try (o/ Sep 16 07:09:12 yay? :P Sep 16 07:09:18 I guess Sep 16 07:09:35 beats spending half a day debugging an issue only to find out I forgot one little config detail Sep 16 07:09:38 :P Sep 16 07:09:54 hackkitten trying out the ndk? the fun has just begun Sep 16 07:10:28 :) Sep 16 07:10:38 Don't try calling back in to the Java interface from a thread in the JNI. Tends to cause headaches :P Sep 16 07:10:46 wrote an OpenSL ES/DFT-based audio analysis thingy Sep 16 07:11:19 I think I'll switch to the C++/Qt-based framework for Android before trying anything serious like that :3 Sep 16 07:11:50 Sonicadvance1, meeh Sep 16 07:12:12 Sonicadvance1, just need to make sure you're using the jnienv for the correct thread Sep 16 07:12:18 yea Sep 16 07:12:27 Not impossible, just a headache Sep 16 07:37:09 g00s: the NDK is pretty fun once you have managed to bludgeon the JNI into doing what you demand from it :3 Sep 16 07:38:36 hackkitten, That's right Sep 16 07:39:13 it would be fun if instead of ndk we could just use renderscript... single binary, dynamic compilation for target, automatic use of neon if it's there Sep 16 07:39:29 but it sounds like it isn't designed for serious amounts of code Sep 16 07:40:09 heh yeah Sep 16 07:40:22 it'd be nice if you could just use straight C/C++ on Andriod Sep 16 07:40:24 Android* Sep 16 07:40:27 hello, what if /dev/qmi for? Sep 16 07:40:29 but one can dream~ Sep 16 07:40:38 hackkitten, should be possible with Qt for android Sep 16 07:40:39 NativeActivity is close Sep 16 07:40:40 *is Sep 16 07:41:05 BtbN: yeah, will look at that soon :) Sep 16 07:41:20 it'll be more mature with Qt 5.3, IIRC Sep 16 07:41:26 sure straight C/C++ is possible with some limitations. I've not tried a nativeactivity myself though Sep 16 07:41:43 er, Qt 5.2 I meant Sep 16 07:41:55 * hackkitten has been using so many Qt 5.x versions she's losing track :D Sep 16 07:42:08 I can't say I'm fond of the manual memory management implied by use of C++, or any of the complexity implied with it in general. Sep 16 07:42:16 'complexity'? Sep 16 07:42:17 hah Sep 16 07:42:26 * hackkitten is a 10+ year C++ programmer :P Sep 16 07:42:35 you never used Qt or modern C++, alankila Sep 16 07:42:42 I never catch myself thinking 'this would be so much easier with a GC...' ;) Sep 16 07:42:47 last time I saw it had like 4 different types of smart pointers and gcc spits out two pages of error messages for even the simplest mistakes. It's just not for me. Sep 16 07:42:48 One thing I found to be handy Sep 16 07:42:58 Is do the initial JNI stuff outside of Android Sep 16 07:43:11 Qt has its parent/child system which takes care of most memory issues, and for other things there are various smartpointers Sep 16 07:43:14 * hackkitten started programming in C++ using the command line Borland compiler Sep 16 07:43:20 yup, Qt makes it a snap Sep 16 07:43:30 else there is boost Sep 16 07:43:37 I just write a little non-Android Java class that does JNI stuff. Then I move it into Android. Sep 16 07:43:38 and hey, manual memory management isn't hard either Sep 16 07:43:39 no, there's C++11 Sep 16 07:43:42 it's just a 'delete' statement Sep 16 07:43:44 but when I do write C++ I write it exactly like it was java. It's just about manageable enough, just more verbose Sep 16 07:43:47 no need for boost for smartpointers anymore Sep 16 07:44:05 alankila: that's the issue, I guess. You treat C++ like it's Java. Sep 16 07:44:08 You can happily do that, just use smartpointers, and never direct ones Sep 16 07:44:11 There's not only the free() stuff needed with JNI, you have to clean up the JNI stuff too...lots of cleaning Sep 16 07:44:15 * hackkitten treats Java like the broken language it is :D Sep 16 07:44:35 Ologn: true enough. the GC isn't perfect either Sep 16 07:45:10 before Android 3.x bitmaps were also allocated natively, which meant that the GC would never clean them up Sep 16 07:45:10 JNI is the biggest mess i have ever seen Sep 16 07:45:14 heh Sep 16 07:45:16 go Java (o/ Sep 16 07:45:20 i prefer the way .NET/Mono handles stuff like that Sep 16 07:45:27 MSFT's JNI alternative was better Sep 16 07:45:31 the bitmap native GC was in 2.3, wasn't it? Sep 16 07:45:33 BtbN: you haven't seen SWIG. Sep 16 07:45:37 yes, alankila Sep 16 07:45:42 I had to debug it in a recent app Sep 16 07:45:45 jasta, hiding the mess doesn't make it any less messy Sep 16 07:45:47 Swig was fun Sep 16 07:45:50 * hackkitten smirks Sep 16 07:46:12 * alankila suggests that JNI is easy relative to e.g. trying to do bidirectional data communication in renderscript :-p Sep 16 07:46:23 :3 Sep 16 07:47:01 i seem to recall some glue libraries that basically automagically generate JNI. seems easy enough, but i cant remember the library's name now Sep 16 07:47:27 i pretty much just avoid broad trespasses into native code, though. Sep 16 07:47:33 Chainfire: where in the world can I download the supersu x86 su binary for intel? I can only find the arm binary. Sep 16 07:48:09 * hackkitten is a big fan now of just doing most logic in NDK, with the fluffy GUI stuff in Java :P Sep 16 07:48:21 though Qt on Android may be easier :o Sep 16 07:48:32 I actually have a qt application on android these days Sep 16 07:48:57 a customer sent a microsoft doc I wanted to read... was hard to find a viewer for it, but I eventually stumbled on coffice which began by downloading some 30 MB of Qt libraries with aid of some helper apk Sep 16 07:49:11 jasta, "javah -jni" generates some stuff for you Sep 16 07:49:22 nah it wasnt that Sep 16 07:49:38 couldn't show scandinavian characters and didn't exactly look like native anroid app but at least I was able to read the doc. So I guess Qt is probably soon a serious option for android development Sep 16 07:51:23 should probably look into how Qt sidesteps, if it sidesteps, any of the state-saving problems inherent on android Sep 16 07:53:17 If I need to rely on state I usually start up a Service and put it there... variables, objects, whatever Sep 16 07:53:26 It looks like it's not actually going to fix the architecture. Sep 16 07:54:08 the qt kit generates an activity and a glsurfaceview and my guess is that all events are just passed through to the native counterparts. Sep 16 08:02:40 how can i send the user to another activity but pop the last N activities off the "back" stack. Sep 16 08:03:08 or even better, replace the "back" stack Sep 16 08:03:24 currently i'm doing some hackery with startActivityForResult Sep 16 08:06:51 jedir0x, by starting a new task Sep 16 08:07:04 jedir0x, http://developer.android.com/guide/components/tasks-and-back-stack.html Sep 16 08:09:06 so i have A-B-C when C is done i want it to go to D, but the stack to look like: A->D Sep 16 08:09:38 so i have a stack of: A->B->C and when C is done i want it to go to D, but the stack to look like: A->D Sep 16 08:10:26 using startActivityForResult doesn't sound completely horrible to me. I thought about suggesting it. It's probably a bit of nasty plumbing though Sep 16 08:10:26 pragma- http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu ... inside the ZIP is an x86 folder Sep 16 08:11:58 alankila: it'd such if the resulting binary is that huge or requires a massive runtime... Sep 16 08:27:17 UNDAH DA SEA Sep 16 08:27:37 * jedir0x cues dancing fish Sep 16 08:31:26 * ^cheeky ques dancing lobsters and seaHorses Sep 16 08:33:44 jedir0x needs constant supervision ;) Sep 16 08:34:04 look at this stuff Sep 16 08:34:07 isn't it neat? Sep 16 08:34:14 would you think my collection's complete? Sep 16 08:34:19 wouldn't you think i'm a girl... Sep 16 08:34:23 a girl who has everything? Sep 16 08:35:06 hello, Sep 16 08:35:17 i need some help / advices Sep 16 08:35:58 i have some data in DB, and i want to refresh my db every 20 sec in background Sep 16 08:36:11 what is best idea to do such refresh / check ? Sep 16 08:36:24 :3 Sep 16 08:36:43 dejvid9: what kind of refresh? Sep 16 08:37:43 well my idea is to create reminder task, i have in database eg. event ID, event time, and event reminder ( 5 mins before event start-time ) Sep 16 08:37:56 i want my application to notify me 5 mins before this event Sep 16 08:41:34 ah okay Sep 16 08:41:43 sounds like a job for a timer instance Sep 16 08:42:26 help please its been a week and i cant launch my app because of our supports screen size tag Sep 16 08:43:23 because of what? Sep 16 08:45:25 dejvid9, that looks like a very wrong thing to do Sep 16 08:45:46 dejvid9, you'll destroy the battery by running update of db every 20 seconds Sep 16 08:45:56 ok Sep 16 08:45:57 Hello guys, what's the best way of displaying a long text / like terms and conditions in a view ? Sep 16 08:46:00 i understand Sep 16 08:46:06 so what would You preffer ? Sep 16 08:46:22 make two reminders Sep 16 08:46:39 another one 5 mins before reminder Sep 16 08:46:59 dejvid9, there's an AlarmManager system service that's meant to start your app on pre-set times Sep 16 08:47:26 dejvid9, what you do is read your database once (either when system boots if you want full background or when your app is running) and setup your notifies then Sep 16 08:47:41 and when the time comes the OS will wake your service up by waking an alarmreceiver Sep 16 08:47:49 ok Sep 16 08:48:12 but can I create my custom alert/alarm view by using AlarmManager ? Sep 16 08:48:32 i don't want to use android bulilt-in notification Sep 16 08:48:36 i want to have my own Sep 16 08:51:17 dejvid9, which part of "AlarmManager will wake your app up via receiver when the time comes" was not clear enough? :) Sep 16 08:51:32 it's just a way of scheduling your code to run. Sep 16 08:52:36 yeah, it's ok now :) i got it Sep 16 08:52:42 thank You guys :) Sep 16 08:54:15 i have 3 images that are hex shape, and i added each in an imageview and in a RelativeLayout, (one overlaping another); so how can i make sure only the imageview area is clickable? Sep 16 08:56:39 override onClick, determine position of click - make sure it's within your bounds Sep 16 08:58:19 approximate the shape by circle Sep 16 08:58:25 it's close enough. Sep 16 09:09:56 jedir0x: but imageviews will be expanded upon bigger devices/screens Sep 16 09:10:19 do the math to scale it Sep 16 09:11:07 guys of leadbolt ads, new release 6.0 is published Sep 16 09:11:12 Hey guys, anyone here done twitter integration before? Sep 16 09:11:30 fix your apps ASAP Sep 16 09:11:47 jedir0x: ok i will try that. but can i user onTouch method as well? Sep 16 09:14:06 I am trying to create an arc seek bar. Sep 16 09:14:11 It's more tiresome than I expected Sep 16 09:19:08 omid8bimo, yes, onTouch would probably work as well Sep 16 09:19:24 ok, off to bed for me Sep 16 09:19:27 TTFN Sep 16 09:42:52 hi Sep 16 09:47:33 i keep seeing gradle updates on sat / sun. is xavd working long hours :P Sep 16 09:49:40 six weeks later and it's release time again @mozilla Sep 16 09:50:21 * capella knows how much g00s enjoys that :P Sep 16 09:51:05 hey capella Sep 16 09:51:12 mobile or desktop ? Sep 16 09:51:28 both - we push all @ the same time Sep 16 09:51:33 woohoo Sep 16 09:51:49 hahaha - heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere we go ! Sep 16 09:52:57 how can i learn how to program for android? Sep 16 09:53:14 start writing android apps Sep 16 09:53:16 Leo145 whats your background ? Sep 16 09:54:50 ) Sep 16 09:55:28 c++ and event driven graphical programming using qt, and java in intermediate level. Sep 16 09:55:48 sounds cool Sep 16 09:56:18 you should be able to pick up android easily then Sep 16 09:57:32 i've downloaded android-sdk, but i don't know how to use it? is there a documentation or learning source? Sep 16 09:57:55 developer.android.com has everything you need Sep 16 09:58:34 > develop > training Sep 16 09:58:53 capella btw, since ff23 that event bug was fixed ; can use d.android.com with FF now Sep 16 09:59:03 > tools > exploring the sdk Sep 16 09:59:44 g00s ! Awesome ! still got the bug#? I tool me off the cc: list Sep 16 09:59:51 if I want to pass multiple values to an async task (different types) is it better to alter the signature for accepting objects as parameter or simply pass a bundle? Sep 16 09:59:57 capella i'll have to find it Sep 16 09:59:59 thanks Sep 16 10:00:10 meh - no biggie Sep 16 10:00:37 g00s just remembered I openned it - simple search for me to locate it Sep 16 10:00:39 though sometimes i cant find stuff clicking around the developer site, the menu seems a bit weird... i need to search on google and will take me to the right page on the developer site Sep 16 10:00:49 capella :) Sep 16 10:01:05 occ try using the docs offline Sep 16 10:01:12 broken links Sep 16 10:01:18 total suck ass Sep 16 10:01:58 i didnt know you could view the docs offline Sep 16 10:04:07 mmm bug still open ... something else fixed it by accident Sep 16 10:27:38 capella is the changelog for ff24 online yet ? Sep 16 10:28:02 mmm ... lemme dig Sep 16 10:36:40 g00s I found this - still calling it beta until couple more days Sep 16 10:36:44 https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/24.0/releasenotes/ Sep 16 10:36:53 capella cool, thanks Sep 16 10:37:51 'close tabs to the right' … wut Sep 16 10:40:08 oh heh never noticed that Sep 16 10:45:47 Hi all, I have to create a web page with a facebook login. When I go to the page on an android device, it can use the active account in the browser (if logged in before). Is it also possible to get the account from the native app? Sep 16 10:52:52 <^cheeky> if i am implementing a listFragment with images in a custime list_item layout and custome adapter .. do i need to recycle the bitmap images created from the downloaded links /.? Sep 16 11:06:23 ^cheeky, That depends if you think the number of bitmaps * resolution of each it going to take a lot of memory Sep 16 11:07:09 the recycling is automatic provided it is possible to do at all though. Sep 16 11:07:32 so strictly speaking no, the call to recycle is optional if the bitmap object itself is collectable. Sep 16 11:08:30 alankila, but the bitmaps need to be weak referenced to be GCed? Sep 16 11:09:42 Hello guys, what's the best way of storing a long text / like terms and conditions? Sep 16 11:10:02 Put it into strings.xml? Sep 16 11:10:18 weak or unreferenced Sep 16 11:10:32 or make a terms.xml with just that string, if you want. Sep 16 11:17:03 <\0x90\> ok this might be dumb question but anyone have any idea how to... or is there a way to 'save' nullpointexceptions that happen in application. Sep 16 11:17:34 <\0x90\> the thing is i'm getting crashes on my app in environments where i don't have logcat or similar. i don't know why it crashes because i can't see the error message Sep 16 11:17:48 ACRA Sep 16 11:18:26 <\0x90\> kakazza, is that a reply to my question ? Sep 16 11:19:56 Yes Sep 16 11:20:23 <\0x90\> oh i see. Sep 16 11:20:28 <\0x90\> cool. cheers.. Sep 16 11:21:38 You're welcome. Sep 16 11:55:25 Hi guys, what would you use to dynamically do some action when you type something into EditText .. so like you have text IN editText already, and as you type you rewrite the text, and if the char isnt equal to what next char in editText make it red colored. Sep 16 11:56:29 something like dynamic correction of text in EditText, but my problem still is, when you cick on EditText to type something, it will change acritivty to ::typing:: activity, and then when you push 'back' its in EditText \ Sep 16 11:57:29 how to remove this activity, i have it on Wildfire S Sep 16 12:01:03 hi with stuff like action bar icons, am i expected to have different sizes for each resolution? Sep 16 12:08:07 sylon: Yes Sep 16 12:08:25 But also no. Not each resolution. Each Pixel Density Sep 16 12:08:43 The docs recommend having mdpi, hdpi, xhdpi. If you're feeling up to it, xxhdpi. Sep 16 12:08:47 ldpi is usually left out. Sep 16 12:13:40 anyone can help with this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18827764/android-custom-shape-button-or-imageview-hit-area Sep 16 12:20:25 why is it so hard to do this actionbar ActionView? should i be using actionbarsherlock even if i dont want to support < ICS? Sep 16 12:21:18 omid8bimo: try this solution? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13861416/android-custom-shape-button Sep 16 12:22:03 sylon: ABS uses the native Actionbar on ICS and above. Sep 16 12:22:09 It's not a standalone implementation. Sep 16 12:22:24 but does it make it easier to use than stock? Sep 16 12:22:45 i have been trying to do this: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/actionbar.html#ActionView Sep 16 12:23:13 Hello there! I'm implementing a ListAdapterFilter. Now, everything works, but when I remove characters from my filter query; the original results are overwritten. This is logical; because I explicitly overwrite it. What would be the best solution for this? Sep 16 12:23:17 Store a deep copy of my array list? Sep 16 12:23:54 sylon: It has pretty much the same API as the native one. Sep 16 12:25:45 ok cool Sep 16 12:26:32 Meaning, you should not use it, if you're targetting API 14+ Sep 16 12:26:36 i am wondering how android developers write the non UI related code? do they get the UI working first? or do they use JUnit tests and code it in a library project? whats the best way Sep 16 12:32:10 mmathis: tried that, didnt work Sep 16 12:32:41 :( Sep 16 12:34:40 mmathis: problem is, still half of the green for example is considered as yellow. Sep 16 12:34:54 since still they are a rectangle button or imageview Sep 16 12:36:05 mmathis: by the way, if i use imageview or button, what should put instead of getPixel in that sample? Sep 16 12:38:12 i dunno :/ Sep 16 12:38:25 I was just hoping I had happened to find something different in Google than you did. Sep 16 12:38:44 mmathis: :) thanks anyway Sep 16 12:54:51 According to updating an app in the playstore with the intention of splitting it, i have the following setup: 1 APK minSDK=10, Version 2. Now i want to split it in two APKS , one for pre 4.0 and post-equal 4.0: PRE: minSDK=10, Version 2.1 POST: mindSDK=14, Version 2.1 - The Post APK gets uploaded first, then the pre apk. Would that work or do I need to increase the post APK version code? Sep 16 12:55:10 *Regarding Sep 16 13:00:56 hello all Sep 16 13:01:37 I'm new to android development and I've noticed there are a few XML files involved. Where can I read up on what each is used for? Sep 16 13:02:45 You will most likely want to look into Android Resources Sep 16 13:03:33 jaynewstrom: ty Sep 16 13:04:08 And follow the official Android Training. Sep 16 13:04:13 They go over them in their lessons. Sep 16 13:04:21 I'm getting excessive line spacing in logcat output under Eclipse, anybody know how to make it less? Font and/or font size changes doesnæt seem to fix it. Sep 16 13:04:22 cool Sep 16 13:04:38 https://developer.android.com/training/index.html Sep 16 13:04:57 Click on the "Building your First App" Title. Sep 16 13:05:06 CAUTION: It involves reading. Sep 16 13:05:11 Some people are scared away by that. Sep 16 13:05:16 But we'll love you, if you do. Sep 16 13:05:24 kakazza: I think I can find a text to speech Sep 16 13:05:29 ;) Sep 16 13:05:33 kakazza: thanks again Sep 16 13:05:38 You're welcome. Sep 16 13:06:02 unless of course someone is willing to do my hobby projects for me?? Sep 16 13:06:04 :) Sep 16 13:06:20 I just sit here and complain and someone else does all the work? Sep 16 13:07:19 Shush! Go and read! Sep 16 13:07:47 lol np Sep 16 13:19:29 I have a searchview in my actionbar. When the search is activated and a user presses the up-button, the searchview collapses. How can I catch this event? Sep 16 13:20:41 oncloselistener seems to do the trick :) Sep 16 13:26:33 has something changed with admob this month? my requests / revenue has dropped insanely this month, doesn't resemble the trend for the last year at all Sep 16 13:35:05 Hey. Is anyone aware of an android "view" or library project which allows you to show a "What's new" type carousel with images and text? Sep 16 13:39:35 A viewpager? Sep 16 13:41:04 viewflipper Sep 16 13:41:27 I have a transparent view on top and I want it to not pass through touch events, is there a simple way to do it? Sep 16 13:43:40 hello Sep 16 13:43:44 why is the topic here representing android studio, anyway... Sep 16 13:43:45 oops Sep 16 13:45:00 I don't want to call for help each time I got a problem here, so are there some docs that help to debug your own application without getting general system trash in android studio? Sep 16 13:45:24 I greatly dislike android studio Sep 16 13:46:16 for logcat, run monitor externally Sep 16 13:46:42 Will logcat then monitor only my application? Sep 16 13:46:48 but I irc android studio filters logcat by app Sep 16 13:46:54 if you set it Sep 16 13:47:00 With the newest android studio update the integrated logcat seems to work well Sep 16 13:47:32 I updated to the newest but when I filter by errors I get some launcher errors not from my Application crashing for example.. Sep 16 13:48:08 There is a search at the top. just type your package name there Sep 16 13:49:29 thanks that filters it correctly - but still not a crash report like in many books described, I get only this: E/pkg﹕ pkg=com.example.onlinetest Sep 16 13:50:07 Am I even in the right place to search for the crash report? Sep 16 13:51:06 I'm not sure what you mean, using the external monitor tool might be better. But I like it integrated, that way I can click on line numbers and it jumps to the code Sep 16 13:53:26 Got it working now - thanks guys, you are always helping out. Sep 16 14:28:37 http://developer.android.com/training/implementing-navigation/lateral.html#horizontal-paging --> i cant get the sample code to run Sep 16 14:28:42 can someone help me please Sep 16 14:29:58 import android.support.v4.app.Fragment its giving me a warning right there Sep 16 14:30:20 i think i imported support properly to my eclipse... its all up to date and what not Sep 16 14:43:44 hey, i'm using androidstudio and want to change / refactor a private variable and make it global, is there a easy way ? Sep 16 14:45:44 Hi! I just realized that a BroadcastReceiver is shortlived. I'm registering one from my application MainActivity. Do I need to re-register it everytime it receives a onReceive message? Sep 16 14:46:00 lmbd, what's wrong with the refactor menu? Sep 16 14:46:55 which function should i use there ? Sep 16 14:48:17 Move...? Sep 16 14:50:15 try until one does what you need Sep 16 14:50:32 hey, what part of android is responsible for displaying the android logo? Sep 16 14:50:52 I have a fully functional frame buffer device node and can write it seeing things popping up on the screen Sep 16 14:51:18 I'd like to try to generate some simple graphics on it to see if they render correctly but without the overhead of all the android's components Sep 16 14:52:17 lamedude: which android logo, the animated one or the non-animated one? Sep 16 14:52:28 zinx: whichever Sep 16 14:52:31 surfaceflinger starts and is waiting on anon_inode eventfd with epoll_wait() Sep 16 14:52:36 lamedude: one is controlled by the bootloader and the kernel Sep 16 14:52:57 normally when I type in "start" it pops up Sep 16 14:53:00 but now I can't do it Sep 16 14:53:19 lamedude: writing to the framebuffer works, but you'd have to disable android's surfaceflinger from updating anything Sep 16 14:53:21 lamedude: the other is controlled by the 'bootsplash' program or something like that Sep 16 14:53:50 helo: I succeeded in writing random data to the fb but I'd like to see sth that makes sense if possible, sth simple such as the android logo Sep 16 14:54:13 zinx: I need to start it from the console with surfaceflinger in the background Sep 16 14:54:35 lamedude: why? Sep 16 14:54:56 I disabled hwcomposer, otherwise my surfaceflinger just crashes Sep 16 14:55:00 I can't start it with "start" Sep 16 14:55:06 it only works when I execute the binary Sep 16 14:55:22 ah, it's called bootanimation Sep 16 14:55:37 lamedude: but why do you need to start it at all? Sep 16 14:55:54 zinx: the frame buffer? Sep 16 14:56:01 tfu, the surfaceflinger? Sep 16 14:56:06 lamedude: as long as it's using rgb565 format, it should work Sep 16 14:56:07 lamedude: the boot animation. Sep 16 14:56:26 zinx: I want any piece of graphics on the screen Sep 16 14:56:32 lamedude: i see Sep 16 14:56:45 lamedude: bootanimation likely doesn't use the same stuff to output Sep 16 14:57:02 helo: is there any such image at hand? Sep 16 14:57:48 lamedude: in fact, i'm not sure anything uses the actual surfaceflinger directly apart from the framework, which also starts it in a specific way Sep 16 14:58:33 lamedude: you can 'dd if=/dev/fb0 of=/my/file bs=1200K count=1' Sep 16 14:58:44 to write the current screen's contents to /my/file Sep 16 14:58:47 lamedude: there's minui in recovery, which uses direct framebuffer access more or less Sep 16 14:59:00 helo: if=file of=/dev/fb0, I know that Sep 16 14:59:05 but I need the file that fits Sep 16 14:59:06 then you could 'cat /my/file > /dev/fb0' and it would display it Sep 16 14:59:22 helo: I did cat /dev/urandom > /dev/fb0 and it's generating output on the screen Sep 16 14:59:28