**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 04 02:59:58 2013 Nov 04 03:09:07 Hi fellows. I've a question: how can I enable 16-bit transparency without using any app? Is there a conf somewhere I can tweak? And yeah, my test device is rooted. Nov 04 03:15:06 why would you need 16bits for an alpha channel? Nov 04 03:15:08 sounds overkill Nov 04 03:18:58 hi guys Nov 04 03:25:56 pfn: nah, I'm just curious about how some apps are able to enable that. Is it set-able through some text conf file? Nov 04 03:26:12 ...or if it's in a sqlite thingy, where's it? Nov 04 03:29:34 <|0xD34D|> emdete: persist.sys.use_16bpp_alpha Nov 04 03:29:41 <|0xD34D|> set that property to 1 and reboot Nov 04 03:30:57 <|0xD34D|> eMyller: ^^ sorry tab completion failure on my part Nov 04 03:32:09 |0xD34D|: np. I appreciate your help! :) Nov 04 03:32:28 |0xD34D|: I guess one could bundle that into build.prop, right? Nov 04 03:32:36 <|0xD34D|> no problem, I have that setting in my ROM and I looked at the settings and that was what it used Nov 04 03:33:53 <|0xD34D|> you probably can add it to build.prop but it's not a read only property so it should persist between reboots Nov 04 03:35:11 |0xD34D|: that was the idea, thank you :) Nov 04 03:36:10 I'm just packaging a conf-patch to my nexus 4 so I can easily flash any ROM without having to manually set everything up before testing some apps. Nov 04 03:37:10 hi guys, what do i need to program android app Nov 04 03:37:18 can anyone show me books or site Nov 04 03:37:24 <|0xD34D|> d.android.com Nov 04 03:37:25 that show step by step to do something/ Nov 04 03:37:58 ? Nov 04 03:38:05 phong_: yes Nov 04 03:38:26 can u tell me what do i need to do programming Nov 04 03:38:52 1) go to d.android.com Nov 04 03:38:57 in there Nov 04 03:39:08 2) do what it tells you to do to get started Nov 04 03:39:10 seand, do u want to remote to my mahcnie? Nov 04 03:39:12 machine* Nov 04 03:39:17 why would i want to do that? Nov 04 03:39:21 show me Nov 04 03:39:25 :) Nov 04 03:39:58 here's a better link: http://developer.android.com/training/index.html Nov 04 03:40:08 i need the dev tools too man Nov 04 03:40:12 not sure what are the requirement. Nov 04 03:40:26 if you can't get started from there, you shouldn't be programming in android Nov 04 03:40:36 wow Nov 04 03:41:00 outch! Nov 04 03:41:20 i'll be in touch with you soon.... Nov 04 03:41:22 seand: you will find anything you need to develop android apps in there but how tos on programming itself. Nov 04 03:41:39 seand: bad autocomplete, that was for phong_. Nov 04 03:41:40 that sounded ominous Nov 04 03:41:43 oh wells. Nov 04 03:43:06 for real though, i have little patience for people who can't take the initiative and search for the solution to a problem themselves Nov 04 03:43:22 i already have to deal with a few of those at work :/ Nov 04 03:44:50 I feel that. he/she might be a kid looking for easy howtos. :) Nov 04 03:46:23 bankai_, thanks for pointing that Services are singleton by nature, that solved my issue even if it took me a bit of refactoring to clean up :) Nov 04 03:48:20 bedtime, cya. Nov 04 04:36:33 how to stream adio using nanohttpd server in android app? Nov 04 06:05:27 Anybody else unable to change developer name in Google Play? Nov 04 06:27:07 hiya. I have activity that implements OnGesturePerformedListener, have created two simple gestures(left and right) and it seems to work. Except for some reason when swing is STARTED from top of title bar program crash 100% quaranteed. Now obviously it's something from my code but is there some simple pitfall I managed to stumble into? Nov 04 07:01:29 does anyone have experience with using GreenDao ORM? Nov 04 07:07:12 someone? Nov 04 07:52:04 do you have to have a CREATOR in every subclass of a parcleable class? or can you somehow unify it? Nov 04 07:52:32 i have like 50 classes I need to implement, dont particularly want to have to write a creator for each one Nov 04 09:07:55 hello Nov 04 09:08:14 anyone can make a teamspeak server for android application development ? Nov 04 09:12:22 sry changed idea, is it possible to make a Mumble server ? Nov 04 09:16:06 cortexA9: good choice Nov 04 09:16:06 hi Nov 04 09:27:33 So Java is very foreign and hard to understand for me compared to the scripting languages I'm used to. I'm looking for an easy-to-use option for working with simple databases (1 table, pull X items randomly from a ~1000 item db to make an X-item db). Someone suggested ORMLite; is this the best option, or does anyone have another (simpler?) option they'd suggest? Nov 04 09:30:48 Twinge: android.database.sqlite provides fairly simple low-level access to SQLite that might be familiar Nov 04 09:31:26 p_l: I'll take a look, thank you. Nov 04 09:32:11 Twinge: have a look at sqlite, classes like SQLIteHelper, there's a bunch of tutorials out there Nov 04 09:34:56 Alrighty, thanks. I'm used to mostly just being able to look up 'these are the commands to do X', punching out a couple lines, and being able to test it right away, hehe. None of that actually having to know what I'm doing nonsense. Nov 04 09:36:23 yeah sqlite is a little harder, but the tutorials should help Nov 04 09:36:50 Twinge: it's not that much different in Java, you just have to understand the concept of OOP Nov 04 09:37:13 Twinge: invest a day to understand it and all your android endeavors will be much easier Nov 04 09:37:23 OOP is sexeh Nov 04 09:38:46 nb-ben: Looking like I should really do that, yeah. I'm just used to being able to say, look at some Python code and have a decent idea of what ot does even if I don't know the language well; in Java I just see everything repeated in triplicate and it looks like an insane mess ;) Nov 04 09:39:19 Twinge: chinese doesn't look like chinese for the people who understand it Nov 04 09:39:46 Twinge: just as much as plain english looks like chinese for a chinese person that is not familiar with the language Nov 04 09:39:51 nb-ben: Haha, indeed. Nov 04 09:40:55 Past experience has been more like different dialects rather than an entirely different language, so I'm jsut used to picking up the jist of it without too much effort. Clearly there shouldn't be *other* ways of doing things! Nov 04 09:41:16 Twinge: you will do that in Java too then Nov 04 09:41:28 Twinge: well unfrotunately you're going to do that while developing for Android Nov 04 09:41:56 Twinge: just remember that the practices you're going to learn are most likely not the proper way to do it, Java is a beautiful language Nov 04 09:46:05 But yeah, sounds like I probably won't be able to shortcut past everything this time, alas. I'll take your advice and try to get some basics down first. Nov 04 10:08:38 Does anyone has any experience providing beta testing through the play store? Nov 04 10:11:26 Will a beta version be provided instead of the 'stable' version? Or does it have a seperate entry in the play store? Nov 04 10:11:44 it replaces Nov 04 10:13:43 Ok thanks Nov 04 10:13:48 no worries Nov 04 10:14:39 Documentation about beta testing seems really scarce :-/ Nov 04 10:19:51 am I understanding right, that I can use language features of java7/8 as long as they dont require builtin classes/interfaces like try()? Nov 04 11:08:03 hi everyone Nov 04 11:09:22 I am using Google Maps V2, and I'd like to have polylines with gradients, instead of one single colour Nov 04 11:09:31 is that by any chance possible? Nov 04 11:17:34 I mean, something like the first image here: http://www.bdcc.co.uk/Gmaps/BdccGmapBits.htm Nov 04 11:31:58 Guys, is there a channel for android app ui? Nov 04 12:00:09 Nope Nov 04 12:00:17 That's pretty much covered by the -dev Nov 04 12:30:14 nobody can help me? Nov 04 12:30:23 morning guys Nov 04 12:32:45 anyone has an idea of how to duplicate a webview without loading the url again? Nov 04 12:33:17 I need to put the same GIF in two places in the screen Nov 04 12:39:58 Android custom ROM dev channel? Nov 04 12:41:52 ls Nov 04 12:45:57 suppose i want to have a user login to my server once and then remember that info, how does that work? Cookies or sth? I'm totally cluesless in this Nov 04 12:48:02 osxorgate, mostly people use oauth Nov 04 12:48:15 osxorgate, basically you generate a token which is then stored in your app Nov 04 12:48:25 and that token (pair) authenticates user Nov 04 12:48:44 the way how you send the token is entirely up to you, most services send it either as HTTP header or as a parameter Nov 04 12:51:11 Mavrik: ok so my app says here's my login+pass, then the server generates a token and remembers it, next time the app sends the token ? Nov 04 12:52:17 osxorgate, usually this works like App: "Here's users username and encrypted+hashed password (!!!!!!)" Server: "Okeh, I've authenticated you, your access token is " Nov 04 12:52:45 osxorgate, read up on proper OAuth 2.0 implementation, it usually also has token expiration and some other stuff that help security Nov 04 12:52:50 also... use HTTPS ;) Nov 04 12:52:59 also... check SSL certificates Nov 04 12:54:33 so suppose i'm running something on gogle app engine, what's the process for checking ssl cert? Nov 04 12:54:56 Hi Nov 04 12:55:09 Could somebody please explain this shit? http://i.imgur.com/dKbLx8P.png Nov 04 12:55:10 osxorgate, you tell GAE to use your SSL cert Nov 04 12:55:26 then in the client you check if the cert hash matches when connecting to server Nov 04 12:55:30 The NDK build script simply cut off the first letter of an object file name Nov 04 12:55:44 ivp_compact_surface.o became vp_compact_surface.o in the linker arguments Nov 04 12:55:53 So I can't link the .so Nov 04 12:55:57 osxorgate, client side certs aren't supported in GAE tho Nov 04 12:56:10 In /objs/local, the name is correct, the .d file with the correct name is there too Nov 04 12:56:18 There were no compilation errors, as you see Nov 04 12:58:34 Mavrik: ok so i generate a cert somehow, then tell appengine to use it, then in my app i have stored a hash that should correspond to the cert Nov 04 12:59:11 osxorgate, yes... that is to make sure you're connecting to your server and not something a guy put between your user and your server on public wifi ;) Nov 04 12:59:59 ok then lastly, ssl. i've seen things like x59 or something? can't figure out how to actually use ssl :/ Nov 04 13:01:54 osxorgate, by calling "https://yourserver" not "http://yourserver" and having SSL certs set in GAE ;) Nov 04 13:02:15 hm that simple huh Nov 04 13:02:22 and not rerouting https to http i read :0 Nov 04 13:02:58 but ok i can download a file, where in the process does the cert come into play? Nov 04 13:09:39 osxorgate, on connection Nov 04 13:10:02 Android will automatically throw IOException if you connect to a server with invalid certificate over HTTPS Nov 04 13:10:21 so downloading a file goes like: connect over https, verify server certificate hash, start transfer Nov 04 13:12:57 has anyone noticed weird behavior with the ExpandableListView recycling? Nov 04 13:16:15 it appears to pass in the incorrect view type Nov 04 13:21:20 Mavrik: ok thanks for the help Nov 04 13:21:30 funkbox: you're probably doing it wrong Nov 04 13:21:35 osxorgate: probably. Nov 04 13:22:02 how about you show us the adapter Nov 04 13:22:25 osxorgate: it's a massively complicated one with many different kinds of views etc Nov 04 13:22:33 and it's not a single class Nov 04 13:25:39 well then we won;t be of much help im afraid Nov 04 13:28:49 osxorgate: it's more of a "is there somethign weird with expandablelv recycling with lots of child view types" than a "omg i just started doing android and i don't get recycling" Nov 04 13:32:22 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18079304/remove-actionbar-tabs-padding-in-android Nov 04 13:32:38 does anyone have an icea how to solve this? Nov 04 13:33:13 I didn't start the topic, but I'm interested in a solution Nov 04 13:35:42 funkbox: how much is lots? i guess if you propertly specify the type in getChildType Nov 04 13:35:56 osxorgate: maybe 30 view types. yes Nov 04 13:39:10 30.. gotta ask what's your app doing? Nov 04 13:40:58 think like an FB-like activity stream with many different types of items Nov 04 13:41:31 i may just ignore convertView and do my own recycling Nov 04 13:42:47 yeah it looks like the RecycleBin in AbsListView is based on positions and not on child types Nov 04 13:42:58 wait nmv Nov 04 13:54:00 yeah the recycler is fucked Nov 04 13:54:39 aannd doing my own recycling fixes it Nov 04 13:54:40 neat Nov 04 13:57:39 maybe use hasStableIds or what's it called Nov 04 14:03:41 osxorgate: using that Nov 04 14:04:40 osxorgate: stable ids = true, and the ids returned by getGroupId and getChildId are stable Nov 04 14:05:31 osxorgate: although i may have a bug in there Nov 04 14:10:08 where does eclipse new -> android -> android project form existing source derives the project name from? Nov 04 14:10:47 nope, returns correct and stable ids Nov 04 14:23:43 does 4.4 not allow debugging if phone is in a dock? Nov 04 15:24:22 does anybody know where to find genymotion devices with older android versions? Nov 04 15:59:27 does anybody know if the ability to add accounts to the play store app has been removed in newer android versions? Nov 04 16:00:13 http://www.androidcentral.com/android-forums-multiple-google-accounts-one-device-google-play is an example of this feature Nov 04 16:00:27 (not in my 4.3 menu) Nov 04 16:01:59 sabgenton: the new google play app has a menu in the upper left corner, when I tap that I see my accounts listed Nov 04 16:02:44 what device, android 4.3? Nov 04 16:03:01 are sharedpreference "reboot-proof" Nov 04 16:03:46 Ge0rG: oh yes I missed that *slap* Nov 04 16:03:49 sabgenton: galaxy nexus, 4.3 Nov 04 16:04:02 mines nexus 7 Nov 04 16:04:21 Ge0rG: do you see a way to change the account? Nov 04 16:04:23 I'm really hot for the new 4.4 NFC emulation API. I wonder what devices it will be supported on Nov 04 16:05:04 sabgenton: maybe you need to register it in the android prefs first? I'm only using one single account Nov 04 16:05:06 The card emulation? It's in place? Nov 04 16:05:17 Ge0rG: nope done that Nov 04 16:05:28 Thorbear: its part of the 4.4 API Nov 04 16:05:39 Thorbear: I assume this means it will be supported on the Nexus5 Nov 04 16:05:50 not sure though about the code on other devices... Nov 04 16:06:06 https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/2521798?hl=en-GB says associate google wallet with it Nov 04 16:06:10 Shouldn't it be supported on any device with NFC and 4.4 ? Nov 04 16:06:13 no idea how Nov 04 16:06:32 Thorbear: there is a hardware feature for it. I suppose not all NFC controllers can support it Nov 04 16:06:39 Aha Nov 04 16:07:44 I'd really love to see it in an eventual 4.4 maguro backport though Nov 04 16:22:23 hey guys, this fragmentation problem is killing me.. I'm trying to draw just a single button on my screen so it looks the same on all kind of displays and cannot do it.. Is there's a chance to sucess playing just with xml file? I have a background with picture, so I need my button to be on 2/3screen height, I also want the button to be the same size according screen size Nov 04 16:27:20 trying to run my app on mobile phone, I get the error "out of memory on a 49348624-byte allocation Nov 04 16:27:35 what the hell could be making such an allocation? Nov 04 16:27:50 (works fine on tablet) Nov 04 16:28:38 s/(works fine on tablet)/(works fine on devices with more memory than the one I'm using)/ Nov 04 16:28:41 huh, 50 MB? Nov 04 16:28:52 The stack trace tells you what would make such an allocation Nov 04 16:28:53 JeremieDeNoob, are you loading any awesomely huge images? :) Nov 04 16:29:04 no Nov 04 16:29:18 s/more memory/larger heap/ rather Nov 04 16:29:20 ( i also took ou all the images from the layout file to make sure but this didnt stop the crash Nov 04 16:30:37 JeremieDeNoob, well, check out the stack trace then Nov 04 16:32:46 ah shit you guys are right Nov 04 16:32:52 there was a image that i forgot to comment out... Nov 04 16:33:11 use bitmap scaling -_- Nov 04 16:34:02 so what the hell... is there really that much difference in available memory from mobile to tablet? its a samsung note... I was planning on optimizing regardless but i mean, for testing purposes i expected it to have no problem on either devices Nov 04 16:34:16 neither are shit bottom end devices. Nov 04 16:34:44 whats the prefered type for android? png? Nov 04 16:36:32 hi all , I am on ubuntu , and useing android studio, when i click run i get this : Error: could not access the Package manager, is the system running, can someone assist ? i see how to fix for win but not for lin Nov 04 16:37:47 Heap size depends on device, os version, and whatever the manufacturer thought was appropriate.. It isn't tablet vs phone Nov 04 16:38:08 Higher resolutions usually means larger heap Nov 04 16:39:03 Providing your drawable as another file type isn't going to change anything, it's just loaded as a bitmap that uses width*height*4 bytes memory anyway Nov 04 16:39:13 As Mavrik said, scale your bitmaps Nov 04 16:39:59 hi there, is there something like google cloud messaging which doesn't rely on the google infrastructure? Nov 04 16:40:33 A 50 MB allocation is a pretty large bitmap.. There's no devices that needs that size Nov 04 16:42:51 SimonVT: doubt it Nov 04 16:46:30 hey guys, are there any mobile developers in here? If so I was wondering how you guys handle versioning for android apps. Like if you wanted to deprecate a version and force a user to upgrade, how you go about it Nov 04 16:46:57 have a webservice that dishes out version information and have your app consume that data Nov 04 16:47:06 and then force going to market to upgrade or quit Nov 04 16:47:26 pfn: do you have a minimum version required for your apps? Nov 04 16:47:34 or if the app's version is different, upgrade it Nov 04 16:47:43 ? Nov 04 16:48:18 so for example, when the app boots up it'll query the api and see that the minimum version to run is 1.2 Nov 04 16:48:25 so anything lower than that will be forced to upgrade Nov 04 16:49:12 depends on your business requirements Nov 04 16:49:16 that's for you to figure out Nov 04 16:49:24 Okay. Thanks. Nov 04 17:13:13 Ge0rG: when you click on the three dots in the play store do you see 'accounts' or just 'settings' ? Nov 04 17:13:51 sabgenton: Settings and Help Nov 04 17:15:28 odd me too. but look here http://android.stackexchange.com/a/43597 it's there for some people! Nov 04 17:19:45 4.3 did add multiple logins maybe they removed this feature :( Nov 04 17:21:45 Woot. Nexus 5 will be here tomorrow Nov 04 17:22:37 when i try to create an avd, under target, there is only one option, and it is 4.3 how ever when i create a project for target, build and min version i have more options, can someone assist , Nov 04 17:27:21 saturation: these screenshots are pre-4.3 Nov 04 17:30:16 * Ge0rG is btw looking for creative solutions to http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19769312/android-action-bar-home-button-not-including-activity-title Nov 04 17:37:57 anyone go to the samsung conference ? Nov 04 17:42:40 Ge0rG: Just backport the 4.2 action bar to 4.1 Nov 04 17:42:48 Or stick to platform behavior and stop wasting time Nov 04 17:53:38 the 4.4 action bar has the menu button slide down gesture like in Chrome, so if you're going to backport one you should backport that one Nov 04 17:55:40 meh. Chrome FCs on 4.3 Nov 04 17:56:03 kevinb is that where you drag your finger to open the menu ? Nov 04 17:56:10 yeah Nov 04 17:56:31 i saw a video of that and thought, "is that it? am i missing something?" Nov 04 17:56:56 it's subtle but it's neat Nov 04 17:57:25 i don't think it's actually any technically faster than two taps, but i think it feels smoother. if users remember/know to use it Nov 04 17:57:46 it adds another fluency into the vocabulary of microinteractions Nov 04 17:57:55 how and when does the user know to use it ? Nov 04 17:59:14 well users learn to swipe to scroll or long-press for extended actions Nov 04 17:59:36 they can learn by accident once, but then start using it Nov 04 17:59:45 and the interface doesn't take away from the standard interface at all Nov 04 17:59:54 It's a secondary way to do an action, it doesn't necessarily have to be completely obvious Nov 04 18:00:09 One of those hidden "oh, neat" things Nov 04 18:01:14 * g00s yawns Nov 04 18:02:18 I have a custom view, in which this function *is* called… http://pastie.org/8454985 the purpose is to make subviews clickable and their click events are sent up to the mStudioDrawerViewListener, if it isn't null. When I click these views, however, no log statements are generated… Nov 04 18:03:01 * Nilium giggles in delight at the news that BlackBerry wants to continue riding its dead pony into the void Nov 04 18:03:08 Hey Guys - I have a ListView showing 10 webview rows. Each row is an extended WebView class. I have a custom ListViewAdapter that would serve the correct webview object based on the row index, and it also maintains an array of the current rows. In order to make sure that convertview always matches the right index, I do 2 things: 1. override the getViewTypeCount to 10, and 2. override the getView, so it maintains the correct Nov 04 18:03:49 Nilium its not dead yet; Charlie is only missing one kidney so far Nov 04 18:04:28 * g00s looks over towards candy mountain Nov 04 18:04:33 toofan: You have 10 different WebView subclasses? Nov 04 18:04:38 Charlie? Nov 04 18:04:42 Is this a reference to that.. yeah.. Nov 04 18:04:57 yes - they all do pretty unique things Nov 04 18:05:11 exemplary piece of fine art and literature; surely something Nilium appreciates Nov 04 18:05:30 toofan, ok what was the other part of your question Nov 04 18:06:17 If we're going with nonsensical non-sequitur humor, I'm going to sit in my Invader Zim boat and feel like it's still the early aughts Nov 04 18:06:44 its if this is the right approach - to make scrolling smooth and avoid my webview objects to be recreated, I have getViewTypeCount to 10, and just returning the convertView from getView method in the adapter Nov 04 18:07:14 my other option would be to decouple the logic from extending webview, and then just use the standard webview objects in the adapter Nov 04 18:07:24 toofan: yes that is the correct approach Nov 04 18:07:27 the first one Nov 04 18:08:04 ok thanks! Nov 04 18:08:21 as a followup - is there any chance that the ListAdapter would automatically shuffle around the views? Nov 04 18:08:32 to clarify - Nov 04 18:09:59 lets say if row 1 is set as WebViewRow1, and in getView for index 1, it usually passes the convertView for row 1. However, once in a while, the app doesn't get the same convertView (for example, convertView for row 1 would be WebViewRow2). This happens when the RowType won't match the actual rows, but I wonder if there is anything else that might trigger that Nov 04 18:21:45 anyone can explain how can I display the version of the gradle plugin I am using? Nov 04 18:22:05 not that I am using, that is available to me Nov 04 18:28:17 Guh, any hints on making my custom view clickable... Nov 04 18:28:23 I got no response Nov 04 18:29:41 I would like to create a Hell's Kitchen equivalent of programmers competing to make an app, and I'll be the shouting boss ;) Nov 04 18:30:45 you call this an app? GTFO of here! Nov 04 18:31:46 is there an easy way to print the top three lines of a stack trace to logcat Nov 04 18:32:04 Strictly JUST the top 3 lines? Nov 04 18:32:14 well 2 or 4 might work Nov 04 18:32:17 i do not want the whole thing Nov 04 18:32:20 it takes up too much space Nov 04 18:32:31 check out (new Exception("x")).getStackTrace() Nov 04 18:32:49 it returns a StackTraceElement[] Nov 04 18:33:04 yeah, im familiar with that :( Nov 04 18:33:09 oh Nov 04 18:33:12 well idk! Nov 04 18:33:13 * Ge0rG just misread that as StackTraceExcrement Nov 04 18:33:24 i'll do that though if no one knows of anything better Nov 04 18:33:25 Isn't that what it is, though, usuallyy Nov 04 18:34:27 if I do this.findViewById(R.id.foo).setOnClickListener(myListener) it SHOULD a) make foo clickable and b) call myListener.onClick when the foo is clicked, yes? Nov 04 18:34:48 So why would it not be doing that... Nov 04 18:36:08 explodes: you could use tail -n 3 if you have that command somewhere Nov 04 18:36:27 danieleB try http://gradleplease.appspot.com/ Nov 04 18:36:33 i put in gradle and it said 0.6.3 Nov 04 18:36:52 oops I meant, the head command, head -n 3 Nov 04 18:37:09 shmooz canadiancow is the one asking :p Nov 04 18:37:32 oh yeah, thanks explodes Nov 04 18:38:23 thank you g00s Nov 04 18:40:14 I wish someone else at my job had any android experience Nov 04 18:40:17 I barely have any Nov 04 18:41:41 ContactsContract... I'm adding a RawContact (http://pastebin.com/yt0904it), seeing a no-name contact in the address book, but am unable to query for it (and it should be attached to the contact in question, yes?) Nov 04 18:44:24 I can query for the account type and name and get a list of raw contacts, but I can't constrain the search to the contact in question and still get a result. Nov 04 18:44:33 What am I doing wrong? Nov 04 18:45:23 are you getting a new cursor after doing the edit? Nov 04 18:46:43 somebody help :| Nov 04 18:48:21 none of my .setOnClickListener listeners are doin' a damn thing! Nov 04 18:48:32 Then something else is handling the touch events Nov 04 18:48:33 except for on Button and ImageButton views Nov 04 18:48:34 Find out what Nov 04 18:49:13 hmm Nov 04 18:49:50 Bourbon: I'm applying in batch (the call for that is further down) and am getting no errors as either exceptions, or logcat errors. Nov 04 18:51:01 But there is no cursor coming back from the batch operation, I will check the content provider results, which may help. Nov 04 18:51:21 SimonVT: There is no other point where .setOnClickListener is being called in my, no point in the XML defines onClick or anything Nov 04 18:51:39 Is that something else is capturing the event the only reason it would not work? Nov 04 18:52:41 explodes: Are you trying to set up gesture controls? Nov 04 18:53:14 Yes, something else is handling the events Nov 04 18:53:30 grey, no Nov 04 18:53:38 greymalkin: * Nov 04 18:54:09 Is there some .getListeners that can retrieve anything possibly intercepting the onClicks Nov 04 18:54:10 ? Nov 04 18:55:11 No Nov 04 18:56:01 Well, isClickable is FALSE before I set the onClickListener... Nov 04 18:56:15 hello\ Nov 04 18:56:22 whats a good book for making apps? Nov 04 18:57:43 pogiako: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C893P8U Nov 04 18:57:47 There is none that I know of… Look up android tutorials and get familiar with the app structure, then try to create more complicated projects, then more complicated, then more... Nov 04 19:00:30 pogiako also http://www.amazon.com/Building-Mobile-Experiences-ebook/dp/B00A9WE3MK :) Nov 04 19:00:53 you asked building apps, not /coding android/ ;) Nov 04 19:01:46 i'm looking forward to http://www.amazon.com/Mobile-User-Experience-Patterns-ebook/dp/B00F8I2534 also Nov 04 19:05:06 Okay, batch results are showing that I'm getting a raw contact and data uri back. Nov 04 19:07:16 Whelp. Here is some sudo-code for how I am handling the events: http://pastie.org/8455182 Nov 04 19:07:26 pseudo-code :P Nov 04 19:07:50 If there is nothing fundamentally wrong with this paradigm, it must be something else going wrong. Nov 04 19:08:11 hehe, sudo-code. Nov 04 19:08:28 sudo code? Nov 04 19:08:39 pseudocode* Nov 04 19:08:59 pfn: uid0 code Nov 04 19:09:13 i'm an android kernel programme Nov 04 19:09:16 +r Nov 04 19:09:43 explodes: you haven't actually initialized any of those variables -- listener will be null in this case, thus none of your onclicks are handled. Nov 04 19:09:45 it's just a fun typo. :) Nov 04 19:10:06 greymalkin: in the real code they are initialized Nov 04 19:10:26 I am more or less demonstrating the design pattern of how the events are bubbled back to the activity Nov 04 19:10:41 Ah but I see what you're saying Nov 04 19:10:55 I have it in my real code, not in that sample Nov 04 19:10:59 Nothing's wrong with your sudo code Nov 04 19:11:48 in my activity I have this.drawer.setDrawerViewListener(this) Nov 04 19:12:16 explodes: Why not just do new OnClickListener() { public void onClick( View v ) { clickMarket(); } } instead of setting up the drawerviewlistener? Nov 04 19:12:47 Before that line, even, if I do Log.d(TAG, "ALready clickable?" + this.drawer.isClickable()) it prints "ALready clickable?false" Nov 04 19:12:57 cool, this $100 hdmi panel should work with a panda board; seems like a neat little android dev-kit Nov 04 19:13:04 low cost Nov 04 19:13:18 g00s: link? Nov 04 19:13:18 g00s lemme know if you need any tips with that Nov 04 19:13:27 I got intimate knowlege of panda Nov 04 19:14:22 I wonder how this chromium webview shit is going to work versioning whise Nov 04 19:14:24 wise Nov 04 19:14:38 because the one I have in kitkat is basically broke. Nov 04 19:14:56 greymalkin: the actual "wireEvents" looks like this: http://pastie.org/8455202 the first line in the onClicks is never fired (the logging) Nov 04 19:15:17 greymalkin: so, no matter what I do in that function, it's fruitless at this time :P Nov 04 19:16:01 greymalkin one sec ... Nov 04 19:17:30 at least hardware accel looks fucked Nov 04 19:17:32 this is depressing; this project has been nothing but 4 hour problems after 4 hour problems, instead of just 20 minute feature, 20 minute feature D: Nov 04 19:17:45 that will get better Nov 04 19:17:59 greymalkin http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/697708033/hdmipi-affordable-9-high-def-screen-for-the-raspbe Nov 04 19:18:52 explodes: If the isClickable is false, that could be your whole problem -- looks like a customized view, did you override the isClickable, or set it elsewise to false? Nov 04 19:19:03 no i did not Nov 04 19:19:54 it is false because nowhere has an OnClickListener been set on that view Nov 04 19:20:17 god dammit you know what Nov 04 19:20:25 I think I know the problem now Nov 04 19:20:39 this.mDrawerStudio.setStudioDrawerViewListener(this); doesn't make the view clickable. Nov 04 19:20:44 ron_frown is WebView and Chrome using the same shared lib now? i remember it being similar / same code ... Nov 04 19:20:59 .setStudioDrawerViewListener needs to explicilty make the view clickable. Nov 04 19:21:33 let me see if that fixes it :I Nov 04 19:22:30 ugh nope :\ Nov 04 19:22:55 Does a parent view need to be clickable in order to let its subviews become clickable? Nov 04 19:23:02 No Nov 04 19:23:09 Hmmm :\ Nov 04 19:23:34 Ok i'm gonna take a 10min break before i lose my cool Nov 04 19:25:17 greymalkin also http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/04/raspberry-pi-monitor-hdmipi-kickstarter Nov 04 19:25:28 Yeah, I'm drooling Nov 04 19:26:43 "The display is slightly larger, but of similar resolution to those found on the Tesco Hudl and 2012 Google Nexus 7 tablet computers, and could be used with other computers and devices - anything with an HDMI output including phones, computers and games consoles." Nov 04 19:26:44 :) Nov 04 19:34:47 hey, been 2 years since I developed java project... wanted to write a small android app... used to write project with a lot of test CI etc Nov 04 19:35:18 for the love of god, can somone point me to simple workign solution to have test that not require emulatro run in Adrnodi studio? Nov 04 19:35:55 You could probably use JUnit from the command line as long as your tests don't require the emulator to run. Nov 04 19:36:12 groundnuty_m i think JakeWharton made a plugin for that Nov 04 19:36:17 explodes: srsly its not basic functionality supported out of the box? Nov 04 19:36:32 https://github.com/JakeWharton/gradle-android-test-plugin Nov 04 19:36:47 https://github.com/JakeWharton/gradle-android-test-plugin Nov 04 19:36:48 if i'm following you Nov 04 19:36:53 dang, tooslow Nov 04 19:36:55 doesn't work in IntelliJ Nov 04 19:37:02 bug the Android tools team Nov 04 19:37:22 yes, I dead about it tried to make android studio to use my junit insted of the one form android.jar for the last 1h... Nov 04 19:37:27 *I read Nov 04 19:38:01 a Nov 04 19:38:21 after that unproductive 1h fight with tools, I decided to ask here - is this functionality not something basic, and why is it not workign? :O Nov 04 19:38:24 groundnuty_m: plain java library for stuff that can be plain java Nov 04 19:38:37 there's stuff like roboelectric but it's suboptimal Nov 04 19:39:02 funkbox: I wanted to test plain java lib that I'm using in android project Nov 04 19:39:15 and I wanted to have unit tests to be the part of android project Nov 04 19:39:39 groundnuty_m: i use maven and have a lib that has all the fancy business logic in there for easy testing etc.. Nov 04 19:39:54 groundnuty_m: if you get genymotion the android UTs aren't horrible Nov 04 19:40:49 funkbox: so like really, really the obvious thing I wanted to do is impossbile out of the box in Android Stuio? :O Nov 04 19:41:23 groundnuty_m: "obvious" isn't obvious. i use maven and it all just works* Nov 04 19:41:32 asterisks for being when you set it up Nov 04 19:42:17 funkbox: ok, so I would be gratefull for few tips if you dont mind ;) Nov 04 19:42:48 funkbox: what is the least pain in the ass setup maven/grade + what IDE + extra services (maby online) etc? Nov 04 19:43:34 is there somewhere a good working tutorial that describes configuring this setup/parts of it Nov 04 19:44:16 when i make one of these custom views clickable, do I need to override the setOnClickListener function so that the listener is applied to all of my custom view's subviews? Nov 04 19:45:05 groundnuty_m: https://code.google.com/p/maven-android-plugin/wiki/Samples the MorseFlash sample Nov 04 19:45:09 it has it all Nov 04 19:45:25 this custome view has a linear layout with a textview and an imageview. do I need to propagate the listener from setOnClickListener to these subviews? Nov 04 19:45:36 s/has a/is a/ Nov 04 19:45:50 No Nov 04 19:45:53 funkbox: thank you :) Nov 04 19:45:57