**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 22 02:59:58 2014 Jun 22 03:03:53 wow... did stewie have reproductive sex with a dog when I wasnt looking =P? Jun 22 05:51:23 ... Jun 22 07:02:42 Anyone know of a good source to look at to see how to successfully abstract the iteration loop for retrieving values from a sqlite table? Jun 22 07:56:20 abstract how? Jun 22 08:05:13 for instance, i want to be able to add a progress observer Jun 22 08:05:54 i was wondering, though I don't see how it could be done, if the different parts of a method (the iteration loop) could be split, so i could "decorate" the parts Jun 22 09:30:54 Sort of a noob questions, what's the best way to take the unique package name and turn it into a long? Jun 22 09:34:56 .hashCode() Jun 22 09:35:07 ahh okay, thanks just wanted to make sure Jun 22 09:37:02 Hey guys, I am one step closer to fixing the error that has been bugging me for the last week http://pastebin.com/sqAXhLZf after I create a on click listener it is when the app starts crashing Jun 22 09:37:32 Can someone maybe check for me what may cause it Jun 22 09:40:21 most probably you want that code in the fragment, not activity as that's where the view lives Jun 22 09:42:56 Hey guys this is a really off question I am using android sdk with Xubuntu 12.04 and with the default grayish theme, and alkl the text inside the editor is white and the text editor background is dark gray on dark blue text, is this a theme issue or can i change these things within the application? Jun 22 09:42:59 elipse? Jun 22 09:47:41 is there anyone who really use *Ubuntu today? Jun 22 09:58:06 lol Jun 22 09:58:18 well i keep getting this error, perhaps maybe you have seen it before when i try to start the emulator java.io.IOException: error=2, No such file or directory Jun 22 10:00:11 ah solution i need 32bit libraries Jun 22 10:00:12 sheesh :P Jun 22 10:00:59 haha i have to download 250mbs, of libraries to create a silly few kbs of an application to learn xD what a world we live in Jun 22 10:08:17 like now i see the android emulator logo, but i cannot physically see the OS...or view my application and it keeps saying an Android virtual device that faild to load, click details but details does not list why :P Jun 22 10:08:18 gah Jun 22 10:46:33 hey guys anyone use android sdk on linux i need help with a few questions getting it started Jun 22 10:46:45 ? Jun 22 10:46:48 Psil? Jun 22 10:46:57 Psil0Cybin? Jun 22 10:47:22 i got it working but i could not get my application to load in the emulator so i tried to download new java Jun 22 10:47:30 7 open, and it caused more problems so i am thinking of removing it Jun 22 10:47:35 but i cannot figure out how to test my application Jun 22 10:47:53 tried to install openjdk-7-jdk but i keep getting errors when i start eclipse of missing links etc Jun 22 10:48:39 Warning: EGit couldn't detect the installation path "gitPrefix" of native Git. Hence EGit can't respect system level Jun 22 10:48:39 Git settings which might be configured in ${gitPrefix}/etc/gitconfig under the native Git installation directory. Jun 22 10:48:39 The most important of these settings is core.autocrlf. Git for Windows by default sets this parameter to true in Jun 22 10:48:39 this system level configuration. The Git installation location can be configured on the Jun 22 10:48:41 Team > Git > Configuration preference page's 'System Settings' tab. Jun 22 10:48:43 This warning can be switched off on the Team > Git > Confirmations and Warnings preference page. Jun 22 10:53:53 hey Jun 22 10:53:58 ? Jun 22 11:04:18 Anyone know if in upgrade mode you can break-\in and stop the upgrade? Jun 22 11:04:47 Key press or combination of keys? Jun 22 11:05:42 hey guys i have a problem i get the emulator working in linux ubuntu 12.04 64bit, and when i try to get my applciation to load/install but running it via the > button, it does not load and nothing happens Jun 22 11:05:51 but i am able to navigate around the emulator and see the preinstalled applications Jun 22 11:08:05 sigh nvm finallly got it working sorry for whinning, just seems like chance Jun 22 11:29:55 Guys I need some help: I want to create an android app that can store data (images, text) on a server and access a remote database (on the server). Also, the app needs to be able to retrieve data from the server. Now I do not know how the architecture of this should be. I was thinking about the following: APP <----via http---->Server. But how should I handle requests from the app and responses from the server TO the app? I read something ab Jun 22 11:29:55 out REST, but have problems understanding that fully and thus do not know how to incorporate REST. Jun 22 11:30:17 anybody can give me some directions for achieving this (probably) simple task? Jun 22 11:42:18 where is samosa? Jun 22 11:46:46 The fridge? Jun 22 11:48:32 I had a simple website, where presentation and logic were seperated. Whenever I needed to request a database entry from the front end, The front end interacted with an object that handled the database interaction. For example, the Frontend called a method from the object controller and the parameters passed where the data to retrieve from the database. Jun 22 11:54:01 hey guys. question: why does everyone use Parcelable.getByteArray rather than Parcelable.createByteArray? Jun 22 11:54:51 Hi all! I'm working on the method profiler(dalvik/vm/profile.cpp). Jun 22 11:55:28 Is there any useful documentation on the same? Jun 22 11:56:09 I'd like to extend it to display info on the actual method parameters as well! Jun 22 11:56:29 Any help is greatly appreciated! Jun 22 12:19:05 anyone here? Jun 22 12:24:16 dkathayat: no Jun 22 12:24:57 LtRipley: :) Jun 22 12:34:27 me neither Jun 22 12:35:42 LtRipley, thepoosh: care to help me get started with the source? Specifically, the dalvik method profiler? Jun 22 12:36:09 dkathayat: I saw your question, I cannot help you Jun 22 12:36:14 I know nothing about NDK Jun 22 12:37:59 ah. Never mind. Thanks! :) Jun 22 12:38:44 thepoosh: I wonder how do developers really get started with contributing to the source Jun 22 12:42:03 very few do, particularly if they're not getting paid for it, or at least involved in a community group Jun 22 12:53:31 dkathayat: same for me, i am a bloodie noob :) Jun 22 13:00:11 Any robolectric users? Jun 22 13:06:48 It seems like EventBus is the much more mature event bus library than Otto Jun 22 13:22:28 If someone did not know this before I shared this http://androidniceties.tumblr.com/ Jun 22 13:26:54 Wow, Looney, there are actually some nice ones there now. Almost unbelievable that it’s actually Android. Jun 22 13:30:40 Sunrise might look nice, if it didn’t use Roboto. Jun 22 13:39:38 hey guys quick question , if say I have if (tx.getText().toString().equals("50")) how would a implement an OR statement (||) in this like say ("50")||("60") ? Jun 22 13:41:14 on What basis is onDialogPositiveClick is called here - http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/dialogs.html#PassingEvents - I can't see how it gets set as listeners? can someone help me understand Jun 22 13:41:44 Jared603: i'd use the same long expression two times Jun 22 13:42:33 Alrighty, thanks, :) just trying to find the quickest way haha, i'm lazy :P Jun 22 13:42:42 nvm, I didn't see the 3rd block of code :D Jun 22 13:42:47 ctrl-c, ctrl-v :D Jun 22 13:43:20 Remember kids, copy and paste, is the programmer's best friend! Jun 22 13:43:39 No. Seriously. Don't. Jun 22 13:43:58 Ofcourse haha Jun 22 13:44:01 I've seen programs with 800 cp'ed if statements instead of a lookup table. Please! Jun 22 13:44:11 What's going on here, so much noise Jun 22 13:44:19 flan3002: we're talking about one-liners Jun 22 13:44:21 yup true that marrrk Jun 22 13:44:55 LtRipley: Those if statements were three-liners. A lot of them. It hurt. Jun 22 13:45:09 I would love to see how they get around shit like drawable-xhdpi drawable-mdpi and so on. I try to use icon fonts as much as I can. Jun 22 13:45:17 coming from a c sharper , java is a bit more tricky Jun 22 13:45:35 marrrk: Have you managed to replace the Overflow icon with a vector font drawable without reflection? Jun 22 13:45:39 but layout is much the same Jun 22 13:45:58 What overflow icon? Jun 22 13:46:03 marrrk: I wrote a method hackOverflowIcon, but I feel like there must be a better way. Jun 22 13:46:21 I’m just using textviews and use that for icons. Jun 22 13:46:21 marrrk: The overflow icon on the right side of the actionbar. Jun 22 13:46:30 Oh haha Jun 22 13:46:44 Anything related to the actionbar I can never figure what stuff to change in the theme. Jun 22 13:46:58 It’s crazy. You mean that ugly ellipsis? Jun 22 13:47:25 So how did you do it? I’m curious now, flan3002 ? How do you even get that icon? Jun 22 13:47:26 i am trying to have a gui (multiple landscapes) that control a MusicPlayer that has some basic functions and some state (like playing/not playing, current Song, etc.) and i wonder what is the best design, as I can't just have the PlayerObject created by the activity Jun 22 13:47:41 The problem is that those SVGs are not loadable via XML, so I had to go through loads of implementation code for the ActionBar. Jun 22 13:47:43 i thought about using an IntentService, but i don't think i can query the state in the activity Jun 22 13:48:31 marrrk: Yes, those 3 squares. Jun 22 13:49:10 hmm, any idea what I can do about 'Error:(1, 0) Plugin with id 'android' not found.' in AS 0.6.1? Jun 22 13:49:42 marrrk: The cool thing about vector fonts is that you can color however you like, at runtime. Unfortunately, some places don't like to accept programatic Drawables. :( Jun 22 13:49:43 flan3002: I always wonder with things like that how anybody has the nerve to create this and then think: Oh yeah it’s completely fine if millions of people have to look at this rubbish. Jun 22 13:50:24 marrrk: I actually think XML was the wrong approach for this, since it complicates it quite a lot... Looking at Scaloids UI code makes me jealous. Jun 22 13:50:45 Jealous of what? Why don’t you use it? Jun 22 13:51:02 marrrk: Now, we always have to deal with XML and Java, always crossing boundaries. Jun 22 13:51:14 flan3002: Don’t write your apps in Java! Jun 22 13:51:33 marrrk: Jealous of the brevity. Jealous of everything about it. Well, Scala is heavy... Jun 22 13:51:41 What do you write your apps in? Jun 22 13:51:51 Scala, if I’m allowed to. Jun 22 13:52:05 How is Scala heavy? Jun 22 13:52:18 I don’t think it’s any worse than Guava after proguarding the shit out of the libraries. Jun 22 13:52:20 * flan3002 is hoping to write his next app (a hobby game) in Rust. However, he's afraid of fighting the NDK. Jun 22 13:52:28 assuming i have an IntentService with some specific state (like current song played), is there a good way to query that state from an activity? Jun 22 13:52:45 hi people, can I ask you for commit code review on android-async-http library? https://github.com/loopj/android-async-http/commit/67bd2273a79944df8c7f68726bd8293b6108a83d Jun 22 13:53:16 flan3002: Ah okay that’s quite bold to go that route. Jun 22 13:53:28 haven't found more elegant solution, than silent reflection access, pity for default version of HttpClient in Android distribution Jun 22 13:53:39 marrrk: If Java does one thing right, it's that costy things look like they're costy. (Java 8 not so much anymore) Jun 22 13:53:55 marrrk: And Scala... Well... It starts with the for-comprehensions. Jun 22 13:54:47 marrrk: I'm not saying I don't like them conceptually, but you trade a lot of performance for that sweetness. Jun 22 13:55:01 Performance that you don’t need in 99% of cases. Jun 22 13:55:18 And if you do, you can always take them out. Jun 22 13:55:52 marrrk: And, while I appreciate that they don't want to give those constructs special privileges, it's just not the most pragmatic approach. Jun 22 13:56:34 marrrk: Sure. Maybe I should translate my current hobby app to Scala. Just for fun. Jun 22 13:56:55 Well, if you want to be able to still write anything in Java, don’t start with Scala. Jun 22 13:57:02 You will hate Java so much afterwards. Jun 22 13:57:12 But maybe you do already. Jun 22 13:57:13 I already hate Java. Jun 22 13:57:18 Haha! Jun 22 13:58:28 flan3002: It’s your choice. Me in general, I very much like trying out new things and there’s still loads of stuff that I don’t get in Scala, so it’s always a nice opportunity to use my head. Jun 22 13:58:36 It may have a good ecosystem for big enterprises and the JVM is a good piece of software, but it starts with the giant JRE libraries and the Google-Oracle fight... Jun 22 13:59:01 So if you want to try Rust+NDK I would also encourage it. I’ve used neither so far. Jun 22 13:59:03 marrrk: Yes, I'm very fond of trying new things as well, and I already tried Scala... Jun 22 13:59:53 Sure, I'll definitely *try* using Rust. I just don't know how long I'll try before giving up and resorting to something else for a while. Jun 22 13:59:55 flan3002: So how did you change that overflow icon? Jun 22 14:01:02 As I said, Reflection. As the name hackOverflowIcon says, it is a stupid hack. It will blow up when they change a field name. And they will. :[ Jun 22 14:02:11 flan3002: I don’t get how that would work yet. Could you paste the file somewhere? Jun 22 14:02:42 I mean do you override setMethod or something like that? Jun 22 14:02:56 The method using setMethod, I mean. Jun 22 14:04:27 Hi, I'm trying to understand how does DialogFragment (and using it as wrapper around AlertDialog.Builder) help me than just creating and using AlertDialog.Builder ? Jun 22 14:04:32 Or just accessing a private method? Jun 22 14:04:46 marrrk: This is only the relevant method: https://gist.github.com/0f7784127f2dd60ea181 Jun 22 14:05:59 marrrk: So, obviously, I'm pretty much f*cked if they ever change those names. :/ Jun 22 14:06:02 ah, I see now. Jun 22 14:06:22 anyone ? Jun 22 14:06:24 Yeah, but I still like that you hated the icon enough to go that route. Jun 22 14:07:09 flan3002: Are you creating the drawables from SVG files? What’s your workflow for that? I couldn’t replace it my way because it’s a drawable and not a text field. Jun 22 14:07:19 marrrk: No, I just wanted the flexibility to be able to change the overflow icon's color along the color of all other icons to maintain the correct contrast. Jun 22 14:07:34 I see. Jun 22 14:09:14 marrrk: Yes, basically. I use some library for rendering the SVGs to bitmaps of the appropriate size and use those bitmaps. Jun 22 14:09:32 Hmm, also not a very nice approach. What’s the library? Jun 22 14:09:35 com.larvalabs.svgandroid Jun 22 14:09:45 Is the package name. Jun 22 14:10:01 http://stackoverflow.com/a/3056862 recommends having a static SoundManager instead of using a service, i can't see whether this is a reasonable approach, any insights? Jun 22 14:10:12 flan3002: Can you use characters from a font with that or do you have to supply the svg files additionally? Jun 22 14:10:18 marrrk: Exactly, and I'm not proud of that, but there were some... complications with using a SVGDrawable. Jun 22 14:11:02 I also tried the Vector Icon font... But its glyphs weren't centered, which defeated the whole purpose... Jun 22 14:11:19 And hey, we got all those icons as SVG anyways. :) Jun 22 14:11:34 Or at least, we can export them as SVG... Jun 22 14:12:04 So but then you have an svg for each icon, right? Jun 22 14:12:12 I like when they’re all neat in one file. Jun 22 14:12:34 marrrk: Yes. But thats better than having three to five icons for different densities. Jun 22 14:12:45 flan3002: Anything is better than that. Jun 22 14:12:50 Now they're just res/drawable/refresh.svg. Jun 22 14:12:57 Yeah, much better. Jun 22 14:13:36 It obviously has some extra cost... But you get to change the colors pretty much on the fly without a ColorMatrixFilter which is reasonably cool. If it works, that is. Jun 22 14:13:56 The SVG support is also not great, right? Jun 22 14:14:14 What do you mean? It renders correctly to bitmaps. Jun 22 14:14:21 is there a way to get an Service-Object from an Activity, to be able to query its state? Jun 22 14:14:40 and if so, is that the most sane way to get it? Jun 22 14:14:47 Ah, I thought that at least in most cases you could avoid that rendering to bitmap. I thought it was just for that hacky bit. Jun 22 14:15:15 marrrk: Well, you have to render it anyway. Either while loading or when first drawing and then caching. Jun 22 14:15:35 Yeah, but I lke not having to worry about that when using TextViews. Jun 22 14:15:52 But if that library does it nicely, it’s probably fine, too. Jun 22 14:16:16 It's still uglier than just using Bitmaps, code-wise. Jun 22 14:16:54 Hmm, I wonder why they don’t just natively allow to place svgs in the xml layouts. Jun 22 14:17:17 Didn’t anybody come up with this when they realised they want to support lots of screen resolutions? Jun 22 14:17:38 * flan3002 thinks they should work on redoing the whole thing... But nobody at Google listens to developers anyways, so why bother. :) Jun 22 14:17:55 marrrk there is an svg library - but as you imagine, it is slower Jun 22 14:18:22 g00s: by whom? Jun 22 14:18:34 flan3002 maybe google realizes they designed themselves into a corner, but without being able to quickly push out updates, how do they make architectural changes without breaking all the things ? Jun 22 14:18:39 marrrk i thought a googler Jun 22 14:18:55 i see its used in iosched 2014 still Jun 22 14:18:58 Why wouldn’t they break all the things? Jun 22 14:19:02 g00s: Don't. Just break all the things. Jun 22 14:19:09 exactly. Jun 22 14:19:18 everybody's apps would break :| Jun 22 14:19:29 yes, because fucking over your installed base which is the more valuable resource is such a damn good idea Jun 22 14:19:32 Hi, I'm trying to understand how does DialogFragment (and using it as wrapper around AlertDialog.Builder) help me than just creating and using AlertDialog.Builder ? Jun 22 14:19:38 Not if they shipped two runtimes for the transition time. :/ Jun 22 14:19:58 haha, yeah, right, and make everyone develop two separate applications, right? :P Jun 22 14:20:09 Sometimes, breaking backwards compatibility is the cheapest way. Jun 22 14:20:09 and oems are going to add their secret sauce to both right, hehe Jun 22 14:20:27 They should have done that with Java years ago... Jun 22 14:20:30 Well otherwise it’s always going to remain the same shit it is now. Jun 22 14:20:40 Starting at these awful generics... Jun 22 14:20:49 apple can do this easily; i think thats why they can evolve the OS faster - even if they don't iterate calendar-wise as quickly as google does Jun 22 14:21:14 g00s: apple *could* (and did) do it easily, nowadays it's a bit harder Jun 22 14:21:17 And Google can do that too. It's just harder... :P Jun 22 14:21:38 marrrk its this one https://code.google.com/p/svg-android/ Jun 22 14:21:45 I always assumed there were a few clever people working at google. Jun 22 14:21:50 That one got me some problems... Jun 22 14:21:52 Wow, hosted at google code. Jun 22 14:22:01 I already don’t trust it. Jun 22 14:22:07 marrrk yeah, but lots of clever people with poor management / poor leadership = ? Jun 22 14:22:12 Ah no they moved it. Jun 22 14:22:51 oh bummer, is anyone still supporting it ? Jun 22 14:22:51 Hmm 2 years ago last change which was „Initial commit“. I can see how that could have lead flan3002 into trouble. Jun 22 14:23:03 ugh, yuck Jun 22 14:23:32 hey g00s could you help me with that ? Jun 22 14:23:58 Hi, goa a problem implementing a global layout listener for some reason. Using Google API16 in a project and the following fails to compile in the onCreate method for an activity: http://pastebin.com/yVzcWLS4 Jun 22 14:24:04 prishabh hmm, comparing DialogFragment to … old stuff; i don't remember much how the managed dialog protocol worked Jun 22 14:24:17 if they break all the things, at least change java for a different language :P Jun 22 14:24:20 hi i got a question Jun 22 14:24:24 just use DialogFragment ;) Jun 22 14:24:26 XML meh, not that bad, WP xaml es way better though Jun 22 14:24:31 probably works better with rotation changes, etc Jun 22 14:24:39 Apparently OnGlobalLayoutListener cannot be resolved to a type. Pretty sure it should be available though! Jun 22 14:24:40 is it good practise to store data as text view (used for viewpage) for a simple revision app? Jun 22 14:24:42 Hello. I'm getting an error cannot resolve method add(int, com.frags.frag1) here: http://pastebin.com/t4pa9Kau It works though if i change from getSupportFragmentManager to getFragmentManager. Any1 can help me out? Jun 22 14:24:57 g00s: hm Jun 22 14:25:17 is iosched 2k14 source out btw? Jun 22 14:25:22 not yet Jun 22 14:25:37 check this out http://www.wired.com/2014/06/gm-license-app-text/ Jun 22 14:25:45 yeah, this is why i don't want a consumer OS in my car haha Jun 22 14:25:48 2013 one seems cool, but will be dated I guess Jun 22 14:25:50 DarkChaoz: no. If anything, I'd think storing it in strings resource that might be referred by application would be better Jun 22 14:27:19 its because my viewpager uses xml layouts atm i have like 25 xml layouts and uses 5 per activity Jun 22 14:28:50 Hello!!!� Jun 22 14:29:02 I'm a new Android Programmer!!! Jun 22 14:29:12 I have 2 questions Jun 22 14:29:15 if i do string resource how would I go about it with using viewpager Jun 22 14:29:48 I am new also, but Java is not much surprise Jun 22 14:29:49 :P Jun 22 14:29:53 the first is how can I calculate the time for example to write "last update 5 minutes ago" ? Jun 22 14:30:01 I'm wondering if Android no longer has "OnGlobalLayoutListener" should I just set up a thread to constantly check the dimensions of the outer container, I guess 10 times per second would be enough Jun 22 14:30:17 the second I have a background service Jun 22 14:30:27 same Jun 22 14:30:30 lol Jun 22 14:30:44 Smashcat: If you can avoid busy waiting, do so. See if you can hook into the resize/move/whatever events. Jun 22 14:30:44 how can I stop when I leave the intent started the service? Jun 22 14:31:34 any suggestions on to store large amount of data to be used with viewpager, currently i use alot of xml layout files and store them as text view in order to be used with viewpager Jun 22 14:31:45 flan3002: Yeah, the layout listener used to trigger when layout dimensions changed. Looks like it's been removed though, so I think polling is the only way to measure the container now. Jun 22 14:31:57 ok, in lack of a response i am now trying to fit all my media related code in a service and find a way how to directly access my Service-subobject by my activity Jun 22 14:32:39 anyone can helpme please Jun 22 14:33:35 i need help Jun 22 14:33:50 * flan3002 knows everyone needs help. Jun 22 14:33:56 Oh FFS, it was Eclipse being stupid again. OnGlobalLayoutListener IS available - for some reason it was just not pulling the class in, and there was no option to add it. Had to add it manually! Jun 22 14:33:58 btw. when my phone goes to power save mode and all activities are destroyed, will the Activity class be unloaded as well? Jun 22 14:35:01 massimiliano: You need a timestamp of the last update. With it, you can calculate the time difference to now and then calculate the amount of minutes passed. Jun 22 14:35:09 ok so instead of putting the content as textview I just simply add the text into the string file and use the textview in the layout file to refer to the string source name? Jun 22 14:35:35 @Msci_p_l Jun 22 14:36:36 hello? anyone alive lol? Jun 22 14:36:59 DarkChaoz: People may be reading your question but not know an answer. Jun 22 14:37:12 ahh... Jun 22 14:37:16 thank you flan3002 Jun 22 14:37:40 DarkChaoz: or not understand the question :) Jun 22 14:37:47 that too lol Jun 22 14:38:08 DarkChaoz: Yes, I don't understand your question indeed. :) Jun 22 14:38:15 ok my aim is to make a simple revision app, currently Im using ALOT of xml files for viewpager Jun 22 14:38:33 DarkChaoz: i am kind of giving up now, i tried several ways of putting somethign which seems like a newbie question Jun 22 14:38:44 using the switch method to switch between xml files in one activity. Jun 22 14:38:53 understanding so far? Jun 22 14:38:56 i don't know ViewPager :) Jun 22 14:39:00 Smashcat that happens in AS too. if its an inner class, and you don't have the right auto-import etc Jun 22 14:39:12 DarkChaoz: Yes, go on. Jun 22 14:39:38 so in the xml files I have used alot textviews to show the revision content Jun 22 14:39:50 g00s: Yeah it's a bit irritating as the "error" message is a little misleading Jun 22 14:39:52 should I deal with event bus unregistraitons in onPause() or onStop(), not quite sure Jun 22 14:39:59 I am not sure this is a good way of storing the content Jun 22 14:40:26 DarkChaoz: You're hardcoding text into XML? Jun 22 14:40:36 yeah Jun 22 14:40:49 DarkChaoz: Bad, indeed. Very bad. :) Jun 22 14:41:12 so I should store them in the string file then? Jun 22 14:41:15 But the layout is identical? Jun 22 14:41:28 roughly yes.. Jun 22 14:41:47 Unbelievable Jun 22 14:41:58 should i store the content in the string file and call it on the textview? Jun 22 14:42:04 On what conditions do you switch the content? Jun 22 14:42:37 when user slides the current page Jun 22 14:42:49 to the next or goes back a page Jun 22 14:43:20 Then you should use a text file. Jun 22 14:44:05 mhmm, is there any resources that can provide an example? Jun 22 14:44:28 There may be, but my connections is too slow to search for them. Jun 22 14:44:41 I really wish the Android devs would add listeners for SoftKeyBoardOpen and SoftKeyboardClosed. The measuring hacks we've had to use for years shouldn't really be needed for something so simple. Jun 22 14:44:42 i see. Jun 22 14:45:39 would storing the content on the string file be just as good and refer the string source name to the textview Jun 22 14:45:45 or that still bad Jun 22 14:45:55 DarkChaoz: Basically, create a file and place it in assets or resources. Read and parse it to memory, then select and fill in the appropriate text for the current page. Jun 22 14:46:12 i see. Jun 22 14:46:42 wait, nvm layout sorta differs from page to page. Jun 22 14:46:56 How? Jun 22 14:47:28 can i pm you? Jun 22 14:47:34 I'll show you it Jun 22 14:48:01 hi, i'm trying to compile redphone github source on archlinux i have gradle (1.12) and I am getting the > Could not create plugin of type 'AppPlugin'. error. I have tried changing the classpath from 0.7.+ to 0.7.3 however the error still remains. I am struggling for ideas is there anything else i could try? Jun 22 14:48:11 I could but would rather not downgrade gradle Jun 22 14:48:17 DarkChaoz: There's no benefit from that. Please just post it to the channel. Jun 22 14:48:59 ok Jun 22 14:49:12 Context has startService and stopService, but is there a way to get the service Object? Jun 22 14:49:22 hold on let me take ss Jun 22 14:51:38 http://prntscr.com/3vd1pp http://prntscr.com/3vd20n @flan3002 Jun 22 14:52:59 hello, someone is experienced with maven and android ? i'm having problem with android.support.v4 use in app built with maven (with android-maven-plugin) Jun 22 14:54:18 DarkChaoz: In your case, you might even want to consider using HTML/Markdown. It allows for far greater flexibility than using layouts in XML for this kind of stuff. Jun 22 14:54:39 i see. Jun 22 14:54:55 * flan3002 would use MarkDown to HTML conversion at compile-time (and probably fail convincing Gradle to do that) and display them in a WebView. Jun 22 14:56:03 is this located at android site? Jun 22 14:56:14 and can i use this along with the viewpager? Jun 22 14:56:40 DarkChaoz: Or you could convert MD -> HTML at runtime with e.g. https://code.google.com/p/markdown4j/. It would raise your apps coolness level by around 42 points. :) Jun 22 14:58:24 whats MD? Jun 22 14:58:43 Markdown. Jun 22 14:59:04 oh xD Jun 22 14:59:20 You probably want http://markdownj.org/ though. Jun 22 14:59:21 any number of a dozen markdowns :) Jun 22 14:59:31 Is there any usable example of interacting with the GCalendar API on Android? Jun 22 14:59:45 DarkChaoz: http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/ Jun 22 15:01:04 for publish android to market we should pay only 25$ ? Jun 22 15:01:12 once Jun 22 15:01:33 yes Jun 22 15:01:38 I’m getting INVALID_SCOPE, but I’m confused as to how to even set a scope. Jun 22 15:01:44 i think it should be $25 per app, but heh :D Jun 22 15:01:52 ok thanks flan3002, Jun 22 15:02:02 also where do i use/save the markdown stuff too? Jun 22 15:02:48 do i use them directly on the activity file where the viewpager switch is (for each case) Jun 22 15:02:51 g00s: if we want to sell our app then google use the bank account we used for pay 25$ ? Jun 22 15:03:06 mintux i think so, its been a while ;) Jun 22 15:03:06 DarkChaoz: I'd put them in the assets directory. Jun 22 15:03:19 i see Jun 22 15:03:39 I'll definitely look into markdown Jun 22 15:03:51 so many xml files are bad bad bad :) Jun 22 15:04:34 Hi! I'm trying to add some libraries using maven and gradle but it can't find Guava and UIL when I sync project files Jun 22 15:04:36 http://pastebin.com/BGp6SKka Jun 22 15:04:45 g00s: should account details and developer details be same? i mean can my friend pay for me in my google account and then i publish apps later Jun 22 15:04:48 thats my build.gradle Jun 22 15:05:08 mintux hm, i dont remember, i filled that stuff out like 4 years ago , sorry Jun 22 15:05:23 anyone knows this? Jun 22 15:05:38 mintux i would use the account you plan on getting deposits from :D Jun 22 15:06:07 heh Jun 22 15:06:49 should I deal with event bus unregistraitons in onPause() or onStop(), not quite sure Jun 22 15:07:20 oh one more thing flan3002, would android compile the markdown to the normal fomat and not that output the html tags stuff Jun 22 15:07:23 jprobably onStop(), as long as the activity is still visible, I am interested in updating the interface Jun 22 15:07:36 platzhirsch probably register onStart, unreg in onStop Jun 22 15:07:46 g00s: *nod* Jun 22 15:08:09 DarkChaoz: Android has no notion of MarkDown. You'll have to convert it to HTML yourself (with that library, of course) and then feed a WebView with it. Jun 22 15:08:19 :( Jun 22 15:08:22 i see Jun 22 15:08:29 DarkChaoz: Note that you can mix MarkDown and HTMl to allow for more complex layout, if needed. Jun 22 15:09:04 so basically.. i use that lib to store the content and use webview to call the file to convert it to normal form? Jun 22 15:09:17 Nah, not really. :) Jun 22 15:09:34 i sorta understand what the lib does.. Jun 22 15:09:48 DarkChaoz: You load the file for the page you want to show, feed it through the MarkdownProcessor and feed the resulting HTML to the WebView. Jun 22 15:10:07 I see. Jun 22 15:10:50 what is the best channel from a Service to the current Activity? Jun 22 15:11:13 so what will be the content file? Jun 22 15:11:39 the ordinary file which will be processed by markdown thing then can be used with webview? Jun 22 15:11:53 LtRipley the airlock ! Jun 22 15:12:02 g00s: ? Jun 22 15:12:26 lol, i thought LtRipley was from Aliens Jun 22 15:12:29 nm Jun 22 15:12:47 i am, but this didn't answer my question Jun 22 15:12:59 DarkChaoz: The WebView can only parse and display HTML, however HTML is not as pleasant to write by hand as Markdown is. Therefore, I'd write the Markdown content by hand and convert it to a format the WebView can understand (HTML) later on. Jun 22 15:13:05 it feels so stupid, this must be standard knowledge, but nobody is able to help me Jun 22 15:13:35 DarkChaoz: Therefore, the files contain Markdown (possibly interleaved with HTML snippets). Jun 22 15:14:00 thought so.. that i was trying to say intially for the content file Jun 22 15:14:10 before being processed to html by the markdown thing Jun 22 15:14:16 2 more questions Jun 22 15:14:22 * flan3002 sighs. Jun 22 15:14:40 1. do i save it as a normal txt file? Jun 22 15:14:52 or is there special file extension needs to be used Jun 22 15:14:54 Yes, preferably UTF-8 encoded. Jun 22 15:15:00 i see. Jun 22 15:15:16 is there a kind of android-forum you guys can recommend for questions? Jun 22 15:15:18 and do i import the markdown plugin to eclipse? Jun 22 15:15:30 *eclipse project Jun 22 15:15:40 The extension doesn't matter usually, but Vim highlights files with .mkd as the extension automatically, so why not use it.. Jun 22 15:15:54 What build system do you use? Jun 22 15:16:36 buld target is android 4.4 Jun 22 15:16:42 *build Jun 22 15:17:01 Gradle/Ant/Maven? Or none? Jun 22 15:17:15 * flan3002 should learn Gradle. Jun 22 15:17:21 none Jun 22 15:18:16 Then I'd try cloning the repo from https://github.com/myabc/markdownj and using it as an Android source project. Jun 22 15:18:38 Or package it as a jar and include that one. Jun 22 15:19:05 ok Jun 22 15:19:23 LtRipley: Not sure what you're asking. Generally you create and bind the service in the activity you're using with the ServiceBuilder. Then you use that reference to the Service. Jun 22 15:19:36 ok, sorry for annoying with these noon questions flan3002 Jun 22 15:19:43 that will be all :) Jun 22 15:19:49 LtRipley: The service can't access any current activity unless on a hacked device I guess. Jun 22 15:20:08 DarkChaoz: :) Jun 22 15:21:47 LtRipley that question - has been asked countless times, and has many nuances. you can easily find the overview be searching "activity service communication" Jun 22 15:22:00 LtRipley: You can set up callback handlers in the activity that creates the service, so that the service can trigger events. Jun 22 15:22:14 (not sure if he's still here :)) Jun 22 15:22:46 hey, any good and cheap alternative to google's GCM to push data to apps? Jun 22 15:23:01 Smashcat: what do you mean by ServiceBuilder, i couldn't find anythin by this name in the android Api? Jun 22 15:24:08 LtRipley: Here's a tutorial :) http://www.vogella.com/tutorials/AndroidServices/article.html Jun 22 15:25:07 I've been working on services using JINI, so slightly different to what you want I think Jun 22 15:25:19 Smashcat: thanks, i will check whether that answers my question Jun 22 15:25:32 np Jun 22 15:26:18 LtRipley: I think exercise 7 there shows exactly what you want Jun 22 15:26:48 looks good Jun 22 15:29:53 Oh one more question fran3002 can gradle be used with eclipse or is it for android studio only Jun 22 15:30:08 you can Jun 22 15:30:27 Ahh i see Jun 22 15:32:15 Mhmm.looks like i need to install gradle plugin Jun 22 15:32:33 darkchaoz i think the android gradle plugin only works with AS Jun 22 15:32:47 o.o Jun 22 15:32:53 eclipse requires more manual work Jun 22 15:32:59