**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 08 02:59:59 2014 Jul 08 03:07:29 hi, im trying to debug a native app, but all i ever get with ndk-gdb is a hang continuing from the initial frame __futex_syscall3 Jul 08 03:15:46 Hello guys. Anyone know any utils that can extract a password protected 7zip file? Jul 08 03:18:18 sure Jul 08 03:18:51 dos Jul 08 03:19:11 i mean unix Jul 08 03:20:43 piracyd3: p7zip on *nix; 7-zip on windows Jul 08 03:21:22 I suspect he's talking about extracting it when he doesn't know the password Jul 08 03:22:02 i know the password. I need to download the 7z file first, then extract it locally in phone. Is this possible? Jul 08 03:22:22 mathstuf: thanks. Will look into it. Jul 08 03:22:53 oh, on a device? Jul 08 03:22:54 maybe convert it to .zip Jul 08 03:23:33 why don tou jusrt extract it and put it on you phone?! Jul 08 03:23:59 why the heck you ned .7zip on you phone? Jul 08 03:24:38 ia9371: not a one-off procedure? Jul 08 03:24:44 "a range of Japanese electronics giants are converting idled factories to agriculture." thats pretty interesting; maybe we should name android after produce growed in semiconductor facilities :D Jul 08 03:24:59 so L = Lettuce Jul 08 03:25:06 \o/ Jul 08 03:25:35 The downloading and extracting part will be done in background. Jul 08 03:25:37 maybe they can grow catfish in them Jul 08 03:26:12 they might come out with Defroms Jul 08 03:32:49 Oh, out of curiousity, what's a good LG phone? specs would be dual or quad core, 4-5" screen, 1GB+ RAM Jul 08 03:34:11 nexus 5 Jul 08 03:34:30 Oh, and unlocked GSM. Nexus 5 sounds good Jul 08 03:34:32 +1 nexus 5 Jul 08 03:35:07 https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_5_32GB_Black?id=nexus_5_black_32gb Jul 08 03:35:26 that'd be it Jul 08 03:35:44 however, I recommend against running over it with a unicycle Jul 08 03:35:58 I have first hand experience that it does not take well to that situation Jul 08 03:36:04 LOL Jul 08 03:36:36 (fell out of my pocket, hit my thigh, bounced in front of my wheel..) Jul 08 03:36:52 Gorilla Glass is strong, but not herculean Jul 08 03:36:56 yea Jul 08 03:37:05 surprisingly, the touchscreen still worked completely Jul 08 03:37:15 but the glass was cracked all over Jul 08 03:37:23 http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_nexus_5-5705.php (good specs too, universal phone, basically. Has all radios for all networks) Jul 08 03:37:57 plus unlockable bootloader, and quick updates Jul 08 03:38:17 I'm sure all I need is the 16GB. Never used more than 2-3GB on my hTC One X+ Jul 08 03:38:20 and stock android Jul 08 03:38:29 BTW, I like LG phones because it doesn't have the bloat hTC has Jul 08 03:38:38 yeah, I'm fine with 16 as well Jul 08 03:38:54 agreed :) Jul 08 03:42:11 for development in the future, i'm leaning toward something like this https://developer.nvidia.com/jetson-tk1 Jul 08 03:43:28 where the heck is ron_frown Jul 08 03:44:17 so many cool linux SBCs; beside the rpi, beagle, etc there is also this new one for $45 http://www.solid-run.com/products/hummingboard/ Jul 08 03:46:24 CDaniel: hows it work with verizon though? Jul 08 03:46:35 Huh? Jul 08 03:46:51 How does what work with Verizon? Jul 08 03:52:31 mathstuf: not working with verizon is an advantage, not a disadvantage ;) Jul 08 03:52:59 Well, I'm on a pre-paid service (Straight Talk), so GSM is perferred. Jul 08 03:53:15 i like tmo Jul 08 03:53:24 The LG Optimus Fuel (L34C) is a Straight Talk phone, but uses Verizon. Jul 08 03:53:29 Its only a 3G phone Jul 08 03:53:52 CDaniel for dev, does it matter :| just get a nexus Jul 08 03:53:57 1.2GHz dual core, 512MB of RAM, 2G internal (1.7 user available), comes with a 4GB SDCard Jul 08 03:53:59 I'm reasonably happy with one2free, even though I've got to see what happens now HKT have bought them Jul 08 03:54:13 I know, but I'll get the Nexus 5 when I have $350 Jul 08 03:56:01 Unless... Jul 08 03:56:08 Someone wants to donate some money to me, heh Jul 08 03:56:37 use genymotion for now :) Jul 08 03:57:51 Does anyone know anything about the FUSE filesystem that's aparently used for emulated storage? Jul 08 03:59:36 CDaniel or get a 2013 N7, nowadays at pretty steep discounts Jul 08 03:59:43 if this is for development Jul 08 03:59:45 N7? Jul 08 03:59:49 nexus 7 Jul 08 03:59:50 witheld: no, unfortunately it's a trade secret only know by 2 people at Google Jul 08 04:00:07 Seriously is there a page in the docs or something Jul 08 04:00:11 No, just a phone for myself. No development (I have no patience, or smarts for software development) Jul 08 04:00:24 CDaniel on phandroid, seems like weekly there is some deal Jul 08 04:00:52 seriously it's a standard Linux tech, but if you have an actual question you might want to consider asking it Jul 08 04:01:38 I know what FUSE is Jul 08 04:02:00 I don't know what program is being used for that filesystem Jul 08 04:02:35 Where are you looking at for deals on Phandroid? Jul 08 04:02:53 I'm asking about that specific....how do you want to say that? The program that is behind /storage/emulated/0 Jul 08 04:03:08 FUSE means there's a userspace program I was asking about that program Jul 08 04:04:16 So do you have any idea about the program they use for the FUSE filesystem used for emulated storage? Jul 08 04:04:21 This is cool: https://www.google.com/android/devicemanager Jul 08 04:04:31 You can locate your phone via this Jul 08 04:08:32 Oh, these little /dev/block/dm-x filesystems, that's where the decrypted apks of DRM'd apps go Jul 08 04:08:34 neat Jul 08 04:12:34 anyway Leeds, so you don't know the specifics of that particular FUSE filesyste, right? Jul 08 04:12:53 witheld: you haven't actually asked a question of any substance yet Jul 08 04:13:05 since Im not able to figure this one out and you guys being much smarter than me, how do I make category a radio button with three options here? XML: http://pastebin.com/808RtTv4 Java: http://pastebin.com/HRpuLrD2 Jul 08 04:13:30 the form works and I can add data to mysql Jul 08 04:13:42 Okay, I don't know what you want me to ask. A program somewhere on this phone is responsible for /dev/fuse /storage/emulated/0 fuse rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1023,group_id=1023,default_permissions,allow_other 0 0 Jul 08 04:13:50 but it makes more sense to do category with radio buttons Jul 08 04:13:51 I just need to know what program is responsible for that Jul 08 04:14:14 It's a specific FUSE filesystem being mounted there Jul 08 04:16:04 I don't know how to be more specific. When I interact with /storage/emulated/0 , I'm actually talking to a program, and I need to know what program that is Jul 08 04:16:53 Leeds: enough substance? Jul 08 04:16:56 why do you need to know that? what are you expecting to do with that knowledge? Jul 08 04:17:46 Well I'm investigating what, if anything, would break suddenly if I tried to move /data/ to another partition/device Jul 08 04:18:04 you're writing an app to do that? Jul 08 04:18:40 Not really app, probably more like, a script. But yeah Jul 08 04:18:54 a script and a modified initrd Jul 08 04:19:27 Hopefully! Might be more to be done Jul 08 04:21:01 Figured I'd look around before I get dirty copying over /data/ and changing up the fstab, hoping it doesn't explode Jul 08 05:02:16 I want to experiment with android L preview SDK, but the emulator runs awfully slow on my intel machine. Will upgrading RAM (from 4GB to 8 or 16GB) make a difference, or should I invest in a device that runs android L preview? Jul 08 05:04:36 sulaiman i doubt adding ram will help much, unless you totally ran out of ram ;) Jul 08 05:06:34 would like to purchase a dual sim android phone for development purpose, what do you guys recommend ? Jul 08 05:06:52 thinking about a h/w with 4.1 Jul 08 06:17:07 RedEyedGirl, how goes the book? Jul 08 06:18:46 sulaiman: the android emulator is just terrible in general Jul 08 06:19:07 mind boggingly so if you've ever touched iOS' simulator Jul 08 06:20:21 Time2303: use GenyMotion Jul 08 06:21:01 Hello all, I have small question. Android L - is Android 5? Or it's beta for Androd 5? Jul 08 06:22:04 thepoosh beyond emulator and simulator, i'm going to propose a 3rd alternative on adt-dev: a supported reference platform involving low cost HW and a simple cross platform client to view the device's screen Jul 08 06:22:41 for example, they used to have builds in AOSP for beagle or panda, can't remember which one Jul 08 06:22:49 we have about 50 devices in the office, so it's not a problem I experience Jul 08 06:22:56 jandor: they haven't released the name (lollipop, etc.) or the version numbers. Jul 08 06:23:20 thepoosh you are 'unusually lucky' Jul 08 06:23:30 thepoosh: I haven't heard of that before but it looks interesting. Jul 08 06:23:42 g00s: agreed Jul 08 06:25:41 Somebody worked with Notification and LED on android? Jul 08 06:26:29 I set notification.ledOnMS = 10000; but it's not work :( Jul 08 06:26:32 we have a lot of devices in the office too, but it has its own set of problems Jul 08 06:26:45 you need to keep the charged, and keep track of them when people borrow them Jul 08 06:27:00 keeping them charged is hard enough, it's easy to kill batteries like that Jul 08 06:27:53 wabz i'm envisioning a very cheap and simple SBC that would run android satisfactorily, with mostly just USB, GPS, BT, Wifi. It would be powered by the USB connection Jul 08 06:28:19 this little guy is just $45 http://www.solid-run.com/products/hummingboard/ Jul 08 06:28:43 volley is the "new" kid in the block for working http request in android ? Jul 08 06:28:48 it could be cheaper without i/o , etc Jul 08 06:28:55 with* Jul 08 06:29:02 jandor: “The number of milliseconds for the LED to be on while it's flashing. The hardware will do its best approximation.” Jul 08 06:29:35 tagrudev its not new. i haven't used it though Jul 08 06:29:52 yeah that's why I used the ":" Jul 08 06:30:09 I haven't used it either but there is a new project coming up Jul 08 06:30:27 so I was wondering what do people use nowadays Jul 08 06:32:52 Leeds are you around ? Jul 08 06:32:53 g00s: i made a new friend - BlockingObservable ... tripped over it fishing through code for something else Jul 08 06:33:13 bankai_au i told you about that weeks ago :D Jul 08 06:33:21 you tell me a LOT of things Jul 08 06:33:26 i think you asked about testing :) Jul 08 06:33:39 bankai_au i know, and 99% of it is fucking crazy shit Jul 08 06:33:52 :) Jul 08 06:35:54 ugh, i did it again, my amazon cart has over $500 worth of books in it Jul 08 06:36:27 must be nice to have money :P Jul 08 06:36:39 oh no, they stay in my cart :| Jul 08 06:36:58 until i can get a few here and there :) Jul 08 06:37:34 bankai_au did you see this? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7999269 Jul 08 06:37:49 i thought this was pretty interesting ... Jul 08 06:38:01 i recently read the updated MS privacy policy Jul 08 06:38:42 and it seems both Apple and MS are positioning themselves as a privacy - conscious Jul 08 06:39:34 the MS privacy statement make it obvious they are taking a jab at google (we don't go through your email to target advertisements) etc Jul 08 06:40:05 but where this is going to have an interesting impact is the wearables - especially the health related stuff Jul 08 06:40:26 consumers have to be confident that this information is secure Jul 08 06:41:23 i just read the other day how hospitals are profiling their patents; its clearly out of control here in the US Jul 08 06:41:51 Does anyone know how to adapt a RecyclerView to a Cursor? Jul 08 06:41:53 "don't allow" "ok" .... reminds me of what people complained about vista Jul 08 06:42:18 I'm trying to implement it with a LoaderManager Jul 08 06:45:43 g00s, so what do you use for http requests ( mostly json responses are expected ) Jul 08 06:46:15 tagrudev actually, i don't use http :| my app uses mqtt, some other custom shit over tcp, etc Jul 08 06:46:40 i can't really talk to the state of the art there; for just http you can look at okhttp Jul 08 06:47:26 Retrofit Jul 08 06:47:33 for rest .. ah thanks :) Jul 08 06:47:53 yeah okhttp or volley that's what I wonder Jul 08 06:48:10 you can (and should) use volley with okhttp Jul 08 06:48:44 meaning ? Jul 08 06:49:03 they're both implementing HttpURLConnection Jul 08 06:49:04 right ? Jul 08 06:50:54 I am looking for a nice client mostly for REST requests Jul 08 06:50:58 JakeWharton Jul 08 06:51:06 no Jul 08 06:51:13 volley wraps an http client Jul 08 06:51:16 okhttp is an http client Jul 08 06:52:12 you're involved in the okhttp right ? Is there any docs that show how one can use volley as a wrapper of okhttp ? Jul 08 06:52:26 if you create a xml drawable that defines simple things like color, where should the file be placed? Nowadays there are several drawable-XXX directories Jul 08 06:52:58 extend HurlStack and use OkUrlFactory to create HttpUrlConnection instances Jul 08 06:53:35 maybe I should create a new dir called drawable only? Anyone knows the typical way to do this? Jul 08 06:53:42 tagrudev: https://gist.github.com/JakeWharton/5616899#comment-1259033 Jul 08 06:58:04 JakeWharton, what's the benefit of okhttp over httpurlconnection ? Jul 08 06:58:39 well for starters it's actively developed Jul 08 06:58:52 :D Jul 08 06:58:55 HttpUrlConnection basically stagnated from 4.0 onward Jul 08 06:58:57 that's good Jul 08 06:59:27 it has SPDY, HTTP2, a bunch of bug fixes that you get on every API level (instead of only on the ones it was fixed in the platform on) Jul 08 07:00:42 JakeWharton: Can OkHttp handle javascripts on a page? Jul 08 07:00:52 it's an HTTP client, not a browser Jul 08 07:00:53 ok I will try to use volley ( with okhttp ) Jul 08 07:01:03 JakeWharton: Ahh Jul 08 07:02:18 HurlStack though Implements HttpStack which is based on HttpUrlConnection Jul 08 07:04:33 and what about using okhttp without volley Jul 08 07:04:43 why would I need the volley stack hmm Jul 08 07:05:12 tagrudev you never really said what you needed ;) Jul 08 07:05:26 I am looking for a nice client mostly for REST requests Jul 08 07:05:32 :) Jul 08 07:05:44 luckily, jake answered that :) Jul 08 07:06:41 so Do I need the volley stack then if I am using okhttp Jul 08 07:06:45 as a client Jul 08 07:06:55 and why ? Jul 08 07:06:59 is that better g00s :) Jul 08 07:08:55 Export tabs, great chrome plugin Jul 08 07:09:10 JakeWharton, ^ last one Jul 08 07:09:39 volley provides the request queue and maybe some serialization stuff Jul 08 07:10:21 okhttp is just raw request and response bodies which you have to serialize yourself. but its new API has async and a requests queue. Jul 08 07:10:41 g00s: pong? Jul 08 07:10:43 so I am handling seriazlization myself Jul 08 07:11:28 Leeds no worries, was going to ask you about your surgery to replace volley with retrofit - but i think tagrudev is ok. Jul 08 07:11:54 I did volley->picasso - I left volley doing the network stuff Jul 08 07:11:58 Instead of having methods return the object they are supposed to return, is passing in the arguement (kinda as a out parameter) and then returning a custom enum a better way / not a bad idea, for saying handling if the method execution fails for some reason and then returns null? Jul 08 07:12:38 Or this an abuse of enums / overkill Jul 08 07:12:39 throw an exception if you can't meet the contract Jul 08 07:12:54 I think I am going to bet on the okhttp without volley Jul 08 07:13:07 hmm, i was doing that but then the problem is they have to catch it Jul 08 07:13:25 and if I need something like request queueing then I would implement it (if it's not ready in the the okhttp version) Jul 08 07:13:35 which is really not a problem, but.. hmm okay that seems like the proper way to do it, thanks g00s Jul 08 07:13:51 i'm trying to think of an API that does it the way you mention Jul 08 07:14:05 JakeWharton, you left serialization because you want to keep it just a client ? Jul 08 07:14:12 yes Jul 08 07:14:16 seems legit Jul 08 07:14:19 ok thanks guys Jul 08 07:15:11 g00s: i was motivated the enthusiasm of block in using enums instead of booleans Jul 08 07:15:22 *by the, and then just extending that to return types Jul 08 07:15:58 since, sometimes it will return null, not as an error hence i didn't want to throw the exception, like for instance if you do a query on some database, and 0 records are returned Jul 08 07:16:20 but in that case, i solved it by having the interface of the result listener have two methods, onNewResults and onNoNewResults Jul 08 07:16:26 but that seems also kind of flawed Jul 08 07:17:12 lasserix null is overused Jul 08 07:17:24 elaborate? Jul 08 07:17:54 Does anyone have the problem Android Studio says there is an update, then prompts to goto a download page, then on the Installation download page it says you can install incrementally by clicking Check for updates, which then prompts to goto a download page... ad infitim Jul 08 07:18:31 instead of passing an empty collection as null, you can do Set set = Collections.EMPTY_SET; Jul 08 07:19:14 ahh that is exactly what i was looking for thanks! Jul 08 07:19:30 use Collections.emptySet() so generics like you Jul 08 07:20:16 morning Android people Jul 08 07:20:56 ^^ thanks Jul 08 07:21:50 morning Mavrik Jul 08 07:21:59 also, goodnight :D Jul 08 07:22:40 No rest for the wicked. Jul 08 07:23:07 g00s: long time no see :) Jul 08 07:23:13 hi napster :) Jul 08 07:23:21 Mavrik i had that Ozzy album Jul 08 07:23:48 i think that was Jake E Lee on guitars Jul 08 07:24:07 ozzy always did have kick ass guitarists Jul 08 07:42:03 Does Android Studio have outline? Jul 08 07:42:09 *class outline Jul 08 07:45:15 Hmm why doesn't AS build the hierarchy everytime you save.. Jul 08 07:47:36 morning everyone Jul 08 07:49:27 Is there no way to see a class outline in android studio? Jul 08 07:52:47 lasserix, You mean View -> Tool Windows -> Structure? Jul 08 07:53:24 (on OS X) Jul 08 07:55:16 JakeWharton, maby you can answer on my yesterday question about build type customization? I just want to ask about built type customization while building apk using android gradle plugin. I want to use different implementation of one class in release and debug build types. Can anyone suggest the way to implement this? I have tried to use different source folders src/main/java src/debug/java... Jul 08 07:55:18 ...and src/release/java but src/release/java is not recognized in android studio as a source folder (looks like this folder recognized as a usual folder). So i mean i don't want to create flavors, i just want customize default build types. All examples i found use dagger end "Modules" to connect functionality for debug build type. My usecase is pretty simple: i want to connect crashlitycs... Jul 08 07:55:19 ...only in debug buildtypes. So i found "debugCompile" in docs but i can't customize build types (debug release). I want exclude craslytics dependency from release. Jul 08 07:56:29 xgear: Select "release" as your Build Variant in AS Jul 08 07:56:39 Then release/ will get recoginized Jul 08 07:57:10 but then debug will not recognized? Jul 08 07:57:14 Both Jul 08 07:57:28 Just when you create it you at least once have to select it Jul 08 07:57:32 http://tulipemoutarde.be/images/2013/build-variants.png lower left Jul 08 07:58:14 anyone have experience with setting up Roboletric on Android Studio? Jul 08 07:58:46 I can run the test using ./gradlew test, but cannot run test in Android Studio interface Jul 08 07:58:58 lut4rp: ahh thanks! sorry i am tired and probably being an idiot tonight Jul 08 08:00:37 lasserix, happens; no worries! Jul 08 08:01:35 anybody know if it's possible to reformat a project to apply code styling in android studio? Jul 08 08:02:47 kakazza, i selected release and then java folder from debug folder not recognized as source folder. But in release java folder was recognized. http://c2n.me/itnguV Jul 08 08:06:03 http://c2n.me/itnqcP Jul 08 08:11:03 Morning, Android Jul 08 08:12:05 Hi, I cannot run a javascript in my webview using webView.loadUrl("javascript:zoomToUserPosition"). The site itself renders fine however when I try to get the users position nothing happens. The relevant code is here: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e4bbbabc03843731945c What seems to be my problem is that the webview cannot get the users position, if I use chrome on the same phone and opens a web-page with identical code (ht Jul 08 08:14:31 huehue142: that got trimmed after "identical code (ht" Jul 08 08:15:06 hi, is this where I would ask about android emulator issues? Jul 08 08:15:24 Estel: ? Jul 08 08:15:26 Goeland86: you can definitely ask ^^ Jul 08 08:15:32 I do not think I fully understand :P Jul 08 08:15:46 huehue142: you hit the IRC line length limit Jul 08 08:15:52 aaah Jul 08 08:15:55 so I'm trying to run Android Junit tests, it works fine when my device is connected with gradle, no issue at all Jul 08 08:16:06 now I want to automate this on Jenkins with the emulator Jul 08 08:16:48 the emulator's running, I launched it manually in the command line and it's still there, but it's run with the no-window option. sometimes adb sees it, sometimes not, and I wonder why, and how can I make it seen every time? Jul 08 08:17:08 Well, the problem seems to be occuring with the WebView, because using the default browser or chrome on the same phone can use this functionality on a webpage containing the exact same code (html js), however when trying to render it in a webview it does nothing. I do believe it is because I cannot get the users geolocation. Jul 08 08:17:35 huehue142: did you set the javascript enable flag? Jul 08 08:17:40 yes Jul 08 08:17:54 after checking out almost every mobile html5 platform - they're all crap. i'm going to go native. anyone recommend a starter-kit, like a wrap of all modern libraries and tools together as a git repo? Jul 08 08:18:13 I enabled JS using: browser.getSettings().setJavaScriptEnabled(true); Jul 08 08:18:21 where browser is my webview :P Jul 08 08:18:53 and the page itself renders fine, it is not until I invoke functionality to get the users position something goes wrong Jul 08 08:19:10 <_3mpty> pellis: Use android studio, gradle plugin resolves dependencies nicely Jul 08 08:19:22 <_3mpty> no need to load all stuff on hdd Jul 08 08:19:34 _3mpty: yep from last time i used it (0.3.4) android studio is really nice today. Jul 08 08:20:11 _3mpty: i'm looking for a combo of open source libs that makes faster development. for example dagger for DI, butter(whatever it was named).. and many of jake wharton's libs Jul 08 08:20:54 <_3mpty> pellis: http://android-arsenal.com/ Jul 08 08:20:56 i have around 4-5 apps i want to build one after another, as prototypes - and i want to make sure i prepare a good starting point so i don't have to tinker with the dependencies and libraries each time Jul 08 08:21:13 _3mpty: nice!! Jul 08 08:21:13 <_3mpty> not exactly for dev but still handy Jul 08 08:21:28 <_3mpty> i mean 'no for development process' Jul 08 08:23:14 yep but this is better than nothing Jul 08 08:23:32 i will try looking in Github for such "kickstart" projects with some of these already baked-in Jul 08 08:23:45 also i remember a year ago or so, testing was a real bitch on Android Jul 08 08:23:48 is it still the case? Jul 08 08:23:52 (unit testing) Jul 08 08:24:21 Yes Jul 08 08:24:24 <_3mpty> also there is nice app for android 'Libraries for developers' Jul 08 08:24:48 <_3mpty> libraries samples & snippets Jul 08 08:24:51 mhm Jul 08 08:25:01 also check out AndroidAnnotations which have helped me alot when prototyping Jul 08 08:25:51 Mavrik: yes that project i remember from my last time trying to get into android (but then tempted out of android into html5) Jul 08 08:26:25 ... Jul 08 08:26:53 I don't have a clue what you could have seen in html5 to go in that direction Jul 08 08:28:17 Estel: i made a mistake it seems.. i thought the world of cordova/phonegap improved and half way into the project i bumped into performance showstoppers Jul 08 08:28:18 <_3mpty> Estel: http://i.imgur.com/HgduvCY.jpg Jul 08 08:29:13 ^^ Jul 08 08:29:19 One day. Jul 08 08:29:20 yep Jul 08 08:30:21 so - now i really need to up my game. i'm used to be very productive and looking to get as much productivity as possible by using as much invented wheels as possible :) Jul 08 08:30:45 that android-arsenal site didn't exist last time.. looks really useful and fun Jul 08 08:31:57 naive question - i remember there was a company making a library that supports designing android/ios views with CSS Jul 08 08:32:00 pixel something Jul 08 08:32:18 they sold that product and it was popular among ios, and released a preview for android Jul 08 08:32:22 is there anything like it still? Jul 08 08:33:26 Do you mean pixate? Jul 08 08:33:37 ah might be Jul 08 08:34:42 does anyone have experience setting up roboletric with Android Studio? Jul 08 08:57:16 hey Jul 08 08:57:22 what does popbackstack actually do? Jul 08 08:57:28 what does the word pop even mean in this context? Jul 08 08:57:32 is the backstack a baloon? Jul 08 08:57:38 or a pimple Jul 08 08:57:51 <_3mpty> jvrodrigues: --> stack Jul 08 08:58:19 <_3mpty> jvrodrigues: push - put on stack, pop get from stack Jul 08 08:58:23 <_3mpty> (from top of stack) Jul 08 08:59:26 <_3mpty> it's basic of basics, you should learn about basic data structures Jul 08 09:00:44 aahh Jul 08 09:00:45 ok Jul 08 09:00:52 basic data structures you say? Jul 08 09:00:58 will read on that now Jul 08 09:00:59 thanks Jul 08 09:01:47 <_3mpty> check en wiki - there is nice article about stack Jul 08 09:02:38 yea i just gave it a quick look, makes so much more sense now Jul 08 09:02:44 thank you very much Jul 08 09:04:05 Does anyonek now how GSON sets the properties from a json string? Jul 08 09:08:05 Hi Jul 08 09:08:47 As soon as I close the emulator the db is erased Jul 08 09:08:57 and its tables also are erased Jul 08 09:09:09 How to save the db in the project Jul 08 09:09:25 I know it gets saved in the database folder of the project directory Jul 08 09:13:26 doe sit use set{myProperty}() or does it access the variable directly? Jul 08 09:21:57 export: cannot recovery key Jul 08 09:22:09 can I use same key on different code base? Jul 08 09:22:50 need same package name (not for store upload, just to export apk)? Jul 08 09:27:29 If I have a prob with key, Im screwed — can’t submit any more updates to play store? Jul 08 09:29:24 you can use the same key for more than one app Jul 08 09:29:45 the package name is the unique identifier of an app in the play store, so you can't change it... Jul 08 09:29:50 and yes, if you lose your key, you're fucked Jul 08 09:30:45 Why is it not possible to let the user change the soundsettings when ive used the audiomanager to mute the stream? Jul 08 09:31:08 Can't Google help with such problems? Jul 08 09:31:21 what happens Jul 08 09:31:28 when you try to fetch two fragments with the same tag? Jul 08 09:31:43 i mean Jul 08 09:31:48 one fragment when you have two with the same tag Jul 08 09:31:53 <_3mpty> phyzloc: google doesn't have your key Jul 08 09:33:13 yes, Google can help Jul 08 09:33:20 email it to your own gmail account Jul 08 09:33:32 upload a copy to the free drive storage they give you Jul 08 09:33:36 *before* you lose it Jul 08 09:35:16 <_3mpty> 'There are two types of people - those who do backups and those who will' Jul 08 09:36:31 arguably, three types... those who do backups, those who do backups *and test them*, and... Jul 08 09:37:29 <_3mpty> :D Jul 08 09:58:09 Hi, I'm trying to use this library in ADT, but I can't figure out how https://github.com/passy/Android-DirectoryChooser Jul 08 09:58:12 any ideas? Jul 08 10:02:45 this android L thing is just horrible :p Jul 08 10:04:22 the lack of depth on buttons is just ... crap Jul 08 10:06:36 <_3mpty> SPAM: sublimetext3 prize in competition: http://sublimetexttips.com/giveaways/sublime-text-giveaway/?lucky=35643 Jul 08 10:09:37 I want to add a launcher icon now. I have already started the new project Jul 08 10:09:50 Is it possible to add in the drawable folder Jul 08 10:09:53 Zharf: but other people like me, likes flat Jul 08 10:09:56 niru: yes Jul 08 10:10:24 Jonno_FTW, I added but the same old one is getting reflected Jul 08 10:10:30 Foxandxss, I don't mind flat, but there's no indication whatsoever what's a button and what's just text Jul 08 10:10:33 it's crap Jul 08 10:10:34 Jonno_FTW, do I need to do any thing else Jul 08 10:10:43 I kept the same old name ic_launcher Jul 08 10:11:06 niru: do project->clean Jul 08 10:11:19 Jonno_FTW, ah ok.. Jul 08 10:11:27 or use the create asset set wizard in adt Jul 08 10:13:29 Jonno_FTW, no its not working :( where is asset set wizard Jul 08 10:14:58 right click on project -> new -> other -> android Jul 08 10:17:28 Guys, does anyone use NDK and Visual Studio to develop for Android ? Jul 08 10:23:38 Jonno_FTW, thanks its working Jul 08 10:23:51 np Jul 08 10:33:33 Is it possible to add a simple text on top of the page of some color without any background Jul 08 10:33:43 or I have to implement textview? Jul 08 10:34:00 niru: what do you think? Jul 08 10:34:07 possible or impossible? Jul 08 10:34:41 :) Jul 08 10:35:08 Jonno_FTW, I want my first page to have some text printed. Jul 08 10:35:23 Jonno_FTW, I think it should be a textview Jul 08 10:35:28 :( Jul 08 10:35:54 then add a textview? Jul 08 10:35:55 may be I have to change the attributes Jul 08 10:37:57 yes Jul 08 10:37:58 definitely Jul 08 10:42:32 hi all i'm doing an app for read data from a database on a server with php script and Json response, this is my code:http://pastebin.com/Ds1pJ5yN, when i run my app and exec HttpResponse response = httpclient.execute(httppost); i have crash app! some tips? Jul 08 10:42:54 Alfreda: read the error output Jul 08 10:43:32 Error in http connectionandroid.os.NetworkOnMainThreadException Jul 08 10:43:32 Error converting result java.lang.NullPointerException Jul 08 10:44:02 there's your problem, you're doing network IO on the main thread Jul 08 10:44:05 exactly like the error says Jul 08 10:44:16 what error is? Jul 08 10:44:28 android.os.NetworkOnMainThreadException Jul 08 10:44:31 lol Jul 08 10:44:34 says it right there Jul 08 10:44:35 what error? Jul 08 10:44:42 and how resolve it? Jul 08 10:44:49 put it into google Jul 08 10:45:01 and you will see that you need to use an asynctask Jul 08 10:45:30 extends AsyncTask Jul 08 10:45:47 but this class is a layout recall from ActivityMain Jul 08 10:45:50 I am struggling to get google play services as a dependency for my project on Android Studio. I have double checked the SDK path and if the library is installed. When I run ./gradlew app:_debugCompile --info I get: Resource missing. [HTTP GET: http://jcenter.bintray.com/com/google/android/google-play-services/google-play-services/1/google-play-services-1.pom] and Resource missing. [HTTP HEAD: Jul 08 10:45:51 http://jcenter.bintray.com/com/google/android/google-play-services/google-play-services/1/google-play-services-1.jar] Jul 08 10:46:41 Jonno_FTW: how modified my code? Jul 08 10:46:50 Alfreda: I'm not going to write it for you Jul 08 10:47:00 i must extend Activity? Jul 08 10:47:04 or extends AsyncTask { Jul 08 10:47:06 no Jul 08 10:47:07 for my class? Jul 08 10:47:12 have an inner class Jul 08 10:47:41 private class JSONTask extends AsynTask