**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 25 03:00:01 2014 Jul 25 03:03:36 you guys hear about buck? Jul 25 03:08:29 hm? Jul 25 03:08:34 http://facebook.github.io/buck/article/exopackage.html Jul 25 03:08:54 oh, yeah. jasta has worked on that Jul 25 03:10:11 wondering if i should move from gradle to it Jul 25 03:12:08 if you run into trouble, your on your own :) Jul 25 03:12:36 i'd dtick with google's tools; but i tend to be conservative that way Jul 25 03:15:11 i dont understand why the moto 360 is circular. that makes sense if you have mechanical hands going around in ... circles Jul 25 03:15:50 why would anyone use buck Jul 25 03:15:58 there's really no value add Jul 25 03:16:06 i'd go with a format like my old garmin forerunner , that was about 1 - 1.5 " high by 2 - 2.4" wide Jul 25 03:16:36 facebook's apps are very big, the gradle build time is probably intolerable ;) Jul 25 03:19:59 hey guys, I built a gradle plugin in Java to pre-package a sqlite db, it works on command line but AS doesn't like it -- gradle sync fails Jul 25 03:26:37 g00s: whats up player Jul 25 03:26:46 you should hear this new opportunity that just dropped into my la Jul 25 03:26:47 lap Jul 25 03:27:07 hey ron_frown_ :) Jul 25 03:27:12 dirty ... Jul 25 03:27:26 ron_frown_ what happened ? Jul 25 03:27:38 basically this lady that owns a company monitoring lots and lots of wells around here Jul 25 03:27:45 was bitching about what it takes to monitor them Jul 25 03:27:54 some of them are agricultural and out in the boonies Jul 25 03:28:12 sounds like we may be able to get the contract to build remote monitoring stations Jul 25 03:28:20 I just think its funny Jul 25 03:28:52 she does it to make sure water isnt being consumed out of control etc Jul 25 03:29:40 she won't have to worry about it for too long; soon they will be dry and everyone will have migratated to wet parts of canada :) Jul 25 03:30:00 http://www.amazon.com/American-Exodus-Climate-Change-Survival/dp/0865717494 Jul 25 03:30:05 hehe Jul 25 03:30:45 ron_frown_ see this from today? http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/upshot/mapping-the-spread-of-drought-across-the-us.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSumMediumMediaFloated&module=second-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news Jul 25 03:30:46 oops Jul 25 03:30:56 ron_frown_ see this from today? http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/upshot/mapping-the-spread-of-drought-across-the-us.html Jul 25 03:31:04 yeah Jul 25 03:31:16 btw, is that visualization towards the very bottom d3 ? Jul 25 03:31:47 if I had to guess, I'd say most are Jul 25 03:31:57 I am pretty sure mike bostock does gfx for new your times Jul 25 03:32:03 the dude who built d3 Jul 25 03:32:16 name sounds familiar Jul 25 03:32:18 yeah he does Jul 25 03:32:32 he very likely built those visualizations Jul 25 03:33:39 hm, got him confused with nathan yau Jul 25 03:34:13 I can build shit people want me to if they give me specific details Jul 25 03:34:27 but some of the things ppl build with d3 are fucking incredible Jul 25 03:47:31 Is there a difference between 'this.id = someId;' and 'id = someId;' in constructor> Jul 25 03:52:11 detachYo i thought you were using perl ? Jul 25 03:52:23 actually maybe that is valid perl :) Jul 25 03:52:28 everything is valid perl :/ Jul 25 03:54:12 g00s haha, I told you I am using Java. Jul 25 03:54:24 sif use java Jul 25 03:54:29 o hai milky doing android :) Jul 25 03:56:26 detachYo the only time i say this.foo = foo is when there is member 'foo' and the method signature also has 'foo' Jul 25 03:56:45 actually i do that all the time in ctors Jul 25 03:56:57 instead of foo = aFoo or something dumb Jul 25 03:57:23 oh yeah, well android guys would say mFoo = foo Jul 25 03:57:27 but fuck that :) Jul 25 03:57:58 g00s thx Jul 25 04:10:56 how would i simulate a feather fall in android? Jul 25 04:12:54 the same as anywhere else? Jul 25 04:13:49 i was wondering if there might be a good lib for it Jul 25 04:13:55 and if not, how you do it in general :) Jul 25 04:14:40 physics Jul 25 04:14:50 is a feather fall like a normal fall, but instead of leaves, it's feathers? Jul 25 04:14:50 is how you do it in general Jul 25 04:15:05 canvs2321-, sure Jul 25 04:15:12 anything with low density, high surface area Jul 25 04:16:18 make like a tree and feather Jul 25 04:22:11 if I have an ArrayList to send to second activity, is it worth implementing Jul 25 04:22:44 Parcelable Jul 25 04:24:30 no Jul 25 04:25:53 pfn, why is it so fucking difficult to pass ArrayList to another activity, there is literally everything available except Long Jul 25 04:27:47 because they wanted you to use arrays back then Jul 25 04:29:46 that makes sense Jul 25 04:29:49 not really Jul 25 04:29:56 solved it, anyways Jul 25 04:31:04 I think I will try out macroid, it looks top nice not to Jul 25 04:31:09 too Jul 25 05:40:20 Anyone ever break one of their company's dev phones? Jul 25 05:42:08 like over a knee? Jul 25 05:42:15 they don't have enough length Jul 25 05:42:34 lasserix_, lol 3 @ blackberry Jul 25 05:46:47 nah just got into a bike accident and the phone flew out of my pack and hit the pavement, lower left corner of the screen is kinda cracked) Jul 25 05:52:59 toast.makeText Jul 25 05:55:08 heh Jul 25 05:55:17 ^_^ Jul 25 05:58:17 I get this message when running my app : "The application may be doing too much work on its main thread." Jul 25 05:58:30 how can I find which part of the app is actually doing too much work? Jul 25 05:58:50 Is there some sort of tool that I can use to find which part of the code takes too much to execute Jul 25 05:59:04 ddms should cover that. Jul 25 05:59:15 I'm on android studio Jul 25 05:59:21 ok let me check ddms Jul 25 05:59:38 i.e., do the usual profiling dance. Jul 25 05:59:59 I'm not familiar with that kind of stuff Nilium Jul 25 06:00:16 a bit of elaboration is always appreciated :) Jul 25 06:00:21 Then consult d.android.com Jul 25 06:00:30 are you doing any file i/o, network i/o, graphics work etc? Jul 25 06:00:53 ok Jul 25 06:00:53 Network IO should be an exception, so that's probably not it Jul 25 06:01:06 depending on SDK target Jul 25 06:01:12 Unless the target SDK is low enough, anyway Jul 25 06:01:20 Screw your faster typing. ಠ_ಠ Jul 25 06:01:24 :) Jul 25 06:01:38 well, I do network (which is in a bg thread anyway), GPS, some graphics (displaying photos) Jul 25 06:01:47 mapfragment Jul 25 06:01:49 how much on main thread? Jul 25 06:02:00 Profiling should probably tell you, either way. Jul 25 06:02:04 pretty much everything except the network Jul 25 06:02:10 using a listview or anyother data based list/loading? Jul 25 06:02:20 no, no list views. Jul 25 06:02:43 maybe post some code of where it's happening, or do some profiling as Nilium says Jul 25 06:02:59 canvs2321-ok Jul 25 06:03:04 Even just the method profiling in DDMS should be sufficient. Jul 25 06:03:19 Though it might take a bit to get used to reading the output. Jul 25 06:03:37 °_° Jul 25 06:03:44 I don't think it's even called DDMS anymore, technically it's monitor when run from the shell. Jul 25 06:03:56 napster: you displaying photos that are loaded on main thread? Jul 25 06:04:04 no lazy loading? Jul 25 06:04:19 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7852845/ Jul 25 06:04:42 photos yes: but they are scaled to just 100px and generally 4-5 of them at most Jul 25 06:04:56 the error message is shown even when no images are loaded Jul 25 06:05:22 well, you know its not an error message, but I think its not a good message. Jul 25 06:05:28 onNewLatLong() what does that do? Jul 25 06:05:49 specifically getMap().animateCamera Jul 25 06:06:07 It will add a marker to the map + calls the address calculator function Jul 25 06:06:12 just below it Jul 25 06:06:41 but i'm saying it seems to get called alot, on change/on drag end etc...what is the animate Jul 25 06:06:45 Animate camera zooms to the (lat, long) using some animation Jul 25 06:06:55 it is a system provided function Jul 25 06:07:05 meaning, does it have it's own threads to draw, or on main thread Jul 25 06:07:53 I think the animateCamera is on the UI thread; but I'm not sure, its a function http://developer.android.com/reference/com/google/android/gms/maps/GoogleMap.html#animateCamera(com.google.android.gms.maps.CameraUpdate, int, com.google.android.gms.maps.GoogleMap.CancelableCallback) Jul 25 06:08:02 from the GoogleMap class. Jul 25 06:09:25 I'm just saying there are a few method calls, that just by looks seems like they'd take some work. PAssing them off to another thread then calling back would seem better Jul 25 06:09:38 hmm Jul 25 06:10:28 napster, have u used android ide app? Jul 25 06:10:51 ide app? Jul 25 06:11:56 its on play store Jul 25 06:11:59 * napster thinks of a joke. Some people say, "I know, I'll use threads.” Now they have two problems. :) Jul 25 06:12:37 karan200000 That looks good, what does it do? Jul 25 06:12:45 oh gawd, i just loled at that :/ Jul 25 06:13:35 we can use it to make apps directly from device Jul 25 06:13:39 :/ Jul 25 06:14:24 karan200000 Does that help me in this problem? Jul 25 06:14:32 i dont know Jul 25 06:19:25 i wanted to know how to add .jar libraries in it Jul 25 06:19:52 karan200000 I'm sorry I'm not familiar with that app Jul 25 06:20:13 canvs2321- Nilium I think the issue with the GeoCoder Jul 25 06:20:27 ┐(￣ー￣)┌ Jul 25 06:20:28 From the GeoCoder docs "The returned values may be obtained by means of a network lookup. The results are a best guess and are not guaranteed to be meaningful or correct. It may be useful to call this method from a thread separate from your primary UI thread." Jul 25 06:20:53 Sounds like a good idea. Jul 25 06:24:12 your getAddress() method is one that looked time consuming, just look over it all, unless your methods are settings known primitives/values, then use another thread if stuff has to be looked up Jul 25 06:24:40 i was looking more at the for() loop, but anything can slow/slug u down Jul 25 06:25:53 napster: to repeat** your getAddress() method is one that looked time consuming, just look over it all, unless your methods are settings known primitives/values, then use another thread if stuff has to be looked up Jul 25 06:25:55 i was looking more at the for() loop, but anything can slow/slug u down Jul 25 06:31:41 canvs2321-ok Jul 25 06:32:32 Hi Jul 25 06:32:41 you familiar with handlers? Jul 25 06:33:18 niru: how hi are you? Jul 25 06:33:30 I have a string field in an activity. I want to compare this String field with the one present in some other activity Jul 25 06:33:33 Hi canvs2321- Jul 25 06:34:21 my log is full of messages like "java.lang.SecurityException: WifiService: Neither user 10101 nor current process has android.permission.CHANGE_WIFI_STATE.". this app 10101 is not the only one. there a several more that also seem to change the wifi-state Jul 25 06:34:28 but the thing is i dont believe they really do -- one of the apps from the log is my own app: i KNOW it doesnt try to change the wifi state. any idea what going wrong there? Jul 25 06:34:47 niru: when comparing strings don't use ==, use .equal() Jul 25 06:34:50 Will getters and setters be used here? Jul 25 06:35:22 thana: what app has UI 10101? Jul 25 06:35:26 UID Jul 25 06:35:49 thanks everyone, getAddress was the trouble maker Jul 25 06:35:51 niru: no you just have your strings and compare Jul 25 06:36:03 napster: good you got it! :) Jul 25 06:36:11 :) Jul 25 06:36:38 canvs2321-: i dont think this is relevant. as i said there a several apps -- including my own -- that arnt supposed to juggle with the wifi state :. Jul 25 06:37:53 canvs2321-: in this special case this appen even has the wifi permission (its https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rauscha.apps.timesheet) Jul 25 06:37:56 then why if your app can't do it are you doing it? Jul 25 06:37:59 canvs2321-: so if(MainActivity.field1==this.field1) ? Jul 25 06:38:14 niru: no if field1 is a string Jul 25 06:38:29 canvs2321-: im not doing it. it doesnt access the wifi state anywhere Jul 25 06:38:42 it's (if(MainActivity.field1.equal(this.field1)) blah blah blah Jul 25 06:38:54 thana: what's the problem? Jul 25 06:38:58 canvs2321-: ah ok... Jul 25 06:39:09 canvs2321-: ? Jul 25 06:39:21 Hello everyone, I'm searching for a way to create an encrypted password file which gradle build system can read and sign a release apk for me. Is there anything like this? I couldn't find anything on google Jul 25 06:39:45 thana: you are just blabbing about a logcat event, but if it isn't causing a problem then what? Jul 25 06:39:50 if it isn't your app then what? Jul 25 06:40:10 canvs2321-: i wonder whats happening there. apps that arnt supposed to throw this exception do it Jul 25 06:40:28 canvs2321-: but see. I have String field1 and when trying to access in the other activity using the activity name it is unable to recognize it Jul 25 06:40:28 how do you know they aren't supposed to? Jul 25 06:40:33 did you write them? Jul 25 06:40:35 canvs2321-: as i said: even my own app throws this exception although it doesnt access the wifi state anywhere Jul 25 06:41:08 It is saying create a field in MainActivity,create a constant bla bla bla Jul 25 06:41:25 niru: you can't compare strings with string1==string2, they are objects, you have to do string1.equals(string2) or string1.compareTo(string2) or string1.startsWith(string2) etc.... Jul 25 06:41:39 canvs2321-: sorry canvas thanks Jul 25 06:41:46 canvs2321-: thanks:) Jul 25 06:41:52 niru: you got it? Jul 25 06:42:01 canvs2321-: yes Jul 25 06:42:05 cool Jul 25 06:42:44 niru: you can do X==Y if primitive, like an int or long etc, but once you start comparing objects you can't as it just references the objects Jul 25 06:43:03 canvs2321-: yes forgot the concepts ;( Jul 25 07:01:55 hey guys, i'm wondering it is possible to get http://pastebin.com/rcv9CV0L that info from a html file so I can use the size & uploaded dates for my app Jul 25 07:04:54 Should we initialize view fields of Activity in onCreate when savedInstanceState is all...or irrespective of its all...i.e. everytime Jul 25 07:05:11 *savedInstanceState is null Jul 25 07:06:26 Anyone have experience importing an existing mass of code into eclipse? I'm trying it as a replacement to notepad, but can't get my project imported. With existing android project, I just get invalid project description, and general/existing project won't work because it's not an eclipse project to begin with. Jul 25 07:08:05 create project structure with similar package name and copy the files (java and resources) in respective folders Jul 25 07:08:33 I did it few months back...not much prob Jul 25 07:08:33 I already have it in an hg repository. Can I somehow just import the files? Jul 25 07:08:41 ohh Jul 25 07:08:53 I dont knw anything abt Hg Jul 25 07:09:00 I'll probably end up going back to notepad, but I need this to extract my strings Jul 25 07:09:30 btw y u used notepad? Jul 25 07:12:07 I'm used to it for python, so I just used it for java Jul 25 07:12:49 tsp_: there's a happy medium, you know - using a proper programmer's editor, rather than something barely better than just writing bytes to a file... Jul 25 07:12:58 That and screen readers with ides sometimes don't mix too well. Android studio is completely unusable Jul 25 07:15:31 tsp you can import git-> remote repo Jul 25 07:15:46 problem is you need project properties, which many people add to ignore Jul 25 07:16:10 so what you have to do in this case, if you can open up the project in eclipse, or have someone who has it in eclipse, Jul 25 07:16:17 right click android tools-> generate build.xml file Jul 25 07:16:29 On linux I just use ed, that's better or worse than notepad depending on who you ask. Editing your file one line at a time turns most people away Jul 25 07:16:37 make sure that goes into the repo, then clone the repo locally, and use import from the build file Jul 25 07:16:54 What can I use instead of Environment.getExternalStoragePublicDirectory(Environment.DIRECTORY_DOCUMENTS) on older API versions? I need a folder to drop a file that gets shared by an email intent. Jul 25 07:17:23 lasserix_: So I have to convert from hg to git, then try importing that? Hmm Jul 25 07:17:28 oh Jul 25 07:17:29 no Jul 25 07:17:36 so just clone it from cmd line Jul 25 07:17:55 I already have my directory with the cloned repo in it Jul 25 07:18:00 umm do you still have access to the original project? ie the one that will open in eclipse? Jul 25 07:18:33 from eclipse you can do Android Tools -> generate build.xml file Jul 25 07:18:45 you can use that to import the project without the eclipse project metadata Jul 25 07:18:55 There was no original project. I created it entirely with the commandline tools and Jul 25 07:19:02 s/ and$// Jul 25 07:19:35 oh Jul 25 07:19:35 http://blog.bugsense.com/post/8095276730/creating-build-xml-using-android-command-line Jul 25 07:20:16 so just generate the build.xml file, and then from eclipse import menu options, you can pick import from build.xml (don't remember which subcategory it is) and voila, you dont have to copy and paste Jul 25 07:20:29 Oh, path overlaps the location of another project: MainActivity. I'll check that post Jul 25 07:20:38 although it is fairly easy to drag and drop all your files once you create an empty project Jul 25 07:36:24 I have one activity with two memory-large fragments (two graphs) and when I launch another activity the loading animation for this new activity is frozen for ~1 sec, I guess this is while the other activity unloads. Is there any way to make the loading animation not freeze Jul 25 07:41:17 yep, just stop doing work on main thread Jul 25 07:44:45 canvs2321-: Scenario: I launch first activity, everything is fine. I launch second activity with only one animation, which stutters. First activity has no code in onPause/destroy etc. Where's my work on the main thread? Jul 25 08:02:18 Hi guys. Weird problem here: Eclipse is complaining "Using 1.7 requires using Android Build Tools version 19 or later; currently using 18.0.1" Unfortunately I have ADT 23.0.2, so cannot upgrade further. Why that non-sense error? Jul 25 08:02:57 http://i.stack.imgur.com/POC42.jpg how do I make something similar to that help-popup? The pic is from the stone age but I've seen popups like that in many apps Jul 25 08:03:36 Whoa! it's a button Jul 25 08:09:58 mpajor: buttons were the shit in 1264 Jul 25 08:10:01 as you can see Jul 25 08:27:42 diego_r: maybe its not that the adt tools themselves are outdated, but the eclipse plugin currently installed -- had the same issue ;) Jul 25 08:27:55 Hey, I have made a custom layout for items in my ListView and all items get marked if i click one of them... Like this pic, blue means selected http://imgur.com/dX4vzth Jul 25 08:28:16 thana: nope. I mean Eclipse tools are @ 23.0.2 Jul 25 08:28:28 How do I separate the clicks? Jul 25 08:30:40 I want to share a file via a share intent- on Android 4.x I have to put the file in a public location, but DIRECTORY_DOCUMENTS doesn't exist in Android 2.x. How can I do this on Android 2.x? Jul 25 08:32:08 thana: ok, found out that for some strage reason "Android SDK Manager" does not update "Android SDK Build-tools" automatically Jul 25 08:32:54 which is not "Android SDK Build-tools" and neither "Android SDK Tools", and not even "Eclipse ADT plugin" Jul 25 08:33:06 it's starting to get really complex... Jul 25 08:33:59 ekx, did you see this: https://developer.android.com/training/secure-file-sharing/share-file.html Jul 25 08:34:22 not quite Jul 25 08:35:08 Mavrik: specifically, I'm trying to email the attachment Jul 25 08:35:42 https://developer.android.com/guide/components/intents-common.html#Email Jul 25 08:35:54 Hi Jul 25 08:37:27 I have a question regarding DNS. I have a network application that change the DNS using setprop net.dns1 Jul 25 08:38:36 the problem I have is that when I change from wifi to 3g or 3g to wifi, dhcp overwrite the DNS I configured Jul 25 08:39:20 is any way to avoid dhcp overwrites dns? Jul 25 08:53:03 Yes, DHCP usually supplies a DNS server Jul 25 09:02:33 alopez: https://www.google.hu/search?q=dhcp+disable+dns+update+linux Jul 25 09:06:22 I have a service file. I am calling that in the Mainactivity file. How can i call the service file in all the activities. Is there a common place for keeping the service file so that all can call Jul 25 09:13:36 erm... "a service file"? Jul 25 09:14:04 I guess he means the java file Jul 25 09:15:43 is there any way I can relatively organize icons in terms of rotational degrees? Example: My current app has a menu with icons circling a bigger icon in the center. If I anchor one icon to the bottom of *big* icon, how can I tell the others "same distance, 30 degrees counterclockwise" Jul 25 09:16:14 hmm Jul 25 09:16:19 you'll probably have to do a custom viewgroup Jul 25 09:16:24 there's not rotational layout :) Jul 25 09:16:28 :(( Jul 25 09:16:42 any good starters on custom viewgroups Jul 25 09:16:49 thats new territory for me Jul 25 09:17:23 reading d.android.com Jul 25 09:17:41 Jesperhead, basically you need to implement onLayout and onMeasure Jul 25 09:18:01 can't find any really good guides tho... remember though, if you're going to use that viewgroup only on one location with one set of icons Jul 25 09:18:11 you can cut ALOT of corners and lay stuff out as you want Jul 25 09:18:24 (e.g. no point evaluating paddings if you don't use them right? :) ) Jul 25 09:18:44 yeah only for this single activity. thanks for pointing me in the right direction Jul 25 09:19:04 jush: I guess he doesn't want to explain Jul 25 09:19:35 Jesperhead, so basically you'll just have to use some maths to tell each subview their left, right, width and height in onLayout Jul 25 09:19:47 and call-through to their measure() in onMeasure Jul 25 09:20:00 and setMeasureDimension for ViewGroup itself... looking at FrameLayout source also helps :) Jul 25 09:20:18 * Jesperhead writes notes furiously Jul 25 09:38:58 And you'll be tested on that tomorrow Jul 25 09:47:36 i have a stack containing a main activity, then a sub activity, the main activity is launched with singleTop, and i'm able to navigate nicely, however if i start the main activity from within the sub activity, a new instance is created, is there a way i can finish my sub activity, go back to the main activity, but give it a new intent, i saw there was an onNewIntent method for this purpose, but when i try it, i end up with 2 copies of my ma Jul 25 09:47:36 in activity Jul 25 10:01:13 lasserix_: are you there? Jul 25 10:06:14 actually my question doesn't matter, and i suspect i need to learn about the difference in behaviour between things that are on top of the stack and those that are not Jul 25 10:07:05 <_3mpty> guys is there any recommended method for passing data to fragment? Till now I was using app/activity (using activity is not always good idea :P). Jul 25 10:08:08 why using activity is not a good idea? I've used that pattern Jul 25 10:09:25 <_3mpty> sometimes I had problem with lifecycle and asynctask - if you are more careful than me, it's not a problem :P Jul 25 10:09:45 ok, our old friend asynctask :) Jul 25 10:09:57 jush: can you answer me if you can? I have a service class. In the MainActivity I am calling it using ServiceConnection,Onstart and Onstop Jul 25 10:10:18 niru: what's stoping you from doing the same code in other activities? Jul 25 10:10:22 How can I call the service class in some other activity Jul 25 10:10:24 <_3mpty> jush: I'm just thinking about other possibilities :) Jul 25 10:10:36 Do I need to go on writing same set for all activities? Jul 25 10:10:59 <_3mpty> jush: asyncs are anoying especialy when it comes to using volley Jul 25 10:11:02 maybe you can create a super class from where other activities inherit Jul 25 10:11:04 or Do i have to write the onstart and stop in service class itself and call using an intent in other activites? Jul 25 10:11:26 hold on, niru you're calling the service onStart method directly? Jul 25 10:12:01 yes Jul 25 10:12:03 <_3mpty> :O Jul 25 10:12:54 jush: right now the serviceconnection and disconnect and onstart etc are in mainactivity Jul 25 10:13:19 niru: you don't start a service by calling the onStart method directly. It sounds strange that you would do that Jul 25 10:13:49 iw vim on windows any good? Jul 25 10:14:17 _3mpty: I've been manually cancelling the async tasks depending on the activity lifecycle but it's a PITA. I guess you can also cancel the volley requets, but that's even more PITA. Jul 25 10:15:22 vim anywhere is good Jul 25 10:15:29 <_3mpty> jush: true Jul 25 10:15:31 except possibly somewhere without a keyboard... Jul 25 10:16:09 jush: I mean binding to a service Jul 25 10:19:21 I don't know any other way than binding to the service in every single activity where you wanna use it Jul 25 10:19:36 <_3mpty> just random thought: anyone knows open source apps that is (in your opinion) example of beautiful code ? Jul 25 10:19:49 jush: ah ok..so I need to bind it everytime I need it in a new activity Jul 25 10:19:59 <_3mpty> I'm trying to improve my coding style ;) Jul 25 10:21:33 _3mpty: https://github.com/JakeWharton/u2020 from JakeWharton it's simple yet elegant and it provides examples of various libraries. It's a pity that the parleys talk linked in that project is not free to watch Jul 25 10:22:58 <_3mpty> jush: thanks, I will take a look Jul 25 10:29:50 how do I zip one file w/ gradle? Jul 25 10:30:11 task myZip(type: Zip) { from myDir } Jul 25 10:42:22 I have a trouble, if I switch from my application while asynctask was active, then switch back, the result comes faster (it seems), then the fragment takes to re-initialise Jul 25 10:42:27 what should I do here? Jul 25 10:43:16 dont couple data with GUI Jul 25 10:49:49 Hey guys, I get a dynamic property deprecation warning for project.ANDROID_BUILD_SDK_VERSION <-- what is it being replaced by? Jul 25 10:50:45 i.e. what variable/namespace am I allowed to use to set a project wide build version, tool version, min and target SDK without getting the deprecation warning from the gradle plugin? Jul 25 11:13:21 is there a way to make android studio have a transparent? Jul 25 11:13:31 transparent background* Jul 25 11:22:27 Is it possible I use same layout accross multiple activities. Jul 25 11:23:25 But depending on some criteria the components of the layout should vary. Example if layout have 5 textboxes. Some activity may show 3 and some may show all 5 Jul 25 11:23:29 Is it possible? Jul 25 11:23:36 how to achieve that? Jul 25 11:24:04 <_3mpty> niru: I think that there is few ways to achieve it Jul 25 11:24:22 <_3mpty> for example you can change views with fragments Jul 25 11:24:33 <_3mpty> or just hide unused Jul 25 11:25:10 _3mpty: so I need to use fragments? Jul 25 11:25:16 <_3mpty> no Jul 25 11:25:23 <_3mpty> you can just insert views from code Jul 25 11:25:27 <_3mpty> when you need them Jul 25 11:25:34 <_3mpty> it's depends from you Jul 25 11:25:39 <_3mpty> it* Jul 25 11:25:42 ah is it how to do that Jul 25 11:25:51 any links u can point to? Jul 25 11:26:22 <_3mpty> example: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2395769/how-to-programmatically-add-views-to-views Jul 25 11:26:42 <_3mpty> fragments are more complex but also more flexible in my opinion Jul 25 11:28:49 _3mpty: thanks checking Jul 25 11:30:15 any idea how I can create something similar to google nows "ok google"? Jul 25 11:30:53 some simple way I can trigger high quality speech recognition. Jul 25 11:31:07 or is the ok google part just the same thing in offline mode? Jul 25 12:01:59 I'm currently exploring custom viewgroups (and feeling overwhelmed). Anyone know of another way one could organize icons in relation to one another in degrees? ie: button1 is x from center. button2 is 30 degrees from button1 button3 is 30 degrees from button2 etc etc Jul 25 12:02:37 i need circular symmetry and android is laughing at me :( Jul 25 12:17:33 hey guys, got any design tips for my "music player" activity? :) http://i.imgur.com/qE1UgWb.png it looks cheap atm Jul 25 12:18:21 iffa yep Jul 25 12:18:36 find someone on www.dribbble.com Jul 25 12:18:39 :P Jul 25 12:19:22 haha :D i figured people here know a lot about making android apps pretty, so i decided to ask (and ive gotten good advice before) Jul 25 12:21:19 iffa Ok, I have got a serious suggestion. Jul 25 12:21:27 there is a tool called Sketch3 Jul 25 12:21:38 Here we go : http://bohemiancoding.com/sketch/ Jul 25 12:21:55 this tool is very good if you are planning to design UI on your own Jul 25 12:22:18 its pretty simple and produces very good output once you are familiar with it. Jul 25 12:23:02 There is another website maintained by Roman Nuric http://romannurik.github.io/AndroidAssetStudio/ Jul 25 12:23:19 helps you develop 9-patch images and icons Jul 25 12:24:04 iffa, my experience of getting an app pretty is that I do what the designers specified Jul 25 12:24:21 sketch looked great until i saw it is mac only, pfft Jul 25 12:24:27 other link looks good though Jul 25 12:26:24 Morning Jul 25 12:29:09 If I have an application with multiple activites, how can I make sure that a service is started? Jul 25 12:30:10 mihalybak: it’s in the documentation for services on what happens if you start service again Jul 25 12:30:41 one of the classes functions are called again (I don’t remember which off the top of my head), but you won’t lose the state of the service Jul 25 12:30:59 well I am not worried about starting it too many times, more about it not being started Jul 25 12:32:38 under what circumstances a service is not started? Jul 25 12:34:14 If I am not all wrong about this... the activity will call Activit.startService(myServiceIntent), but I would not like to paste this code into all my activities, since I do have several that the application can start from Jul 25 12:34:35 Or perhaps that is the only way? Jul 25 12:35:07 I'm looking for a way to implement speech recognition similarly to google now, basically I want to be able to say a keyword ("ok google") to start actuall voice recognition Jul 25 12:35:19 any idea how I could do that? Jul 25 12:35:36 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/speech/SpeechRecognizer.html Jul 25 12:35:57 As such this API is not intended to be used for continuous recognition, which would consume a significant amount of battery and bandwidth. Jul 25 12:36:43 Yeah, that’s what you’re going to need to do basically Jul 25 12:36:51 if you do it on the device, you will eat the battery Jul 25 12:36:54 jonc-1, so pretty sure they're using something else, at least for the "ok google" keyword ... maybe they do that part offline? Jul 25 12:37:14 and you’d need to have a trained system already on the device Jul 25 12:38:19 isn't there? Jul 25 12:38:48 I thought that maybe there's a way to put the recognizer in offline mode for simple keyword recognition Jul 25 12:40:03 Syzygy, yes, they use something else Jul 25 12:40:18 but API is not publicly available, you'll have to write a pattern matcher yourself Jul 25 12:40:23 crap. Jul 25 12:41:26 https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/base/+/d9f4e0cf2c2466d9e05f8562e55d342934f7ed0d/core/java/android/speech/hotword/HotwordRecognitionService.java Jul 25 12:43:49 thanks for that Jul 25 12:44:46 and yes, you're right - SpeechRecogniser relies on online service, so it's terrible for this use-case .... after all you don't need a full online speech recognition database to find a pattern in audio signal Jul 25 12:45:19 No but you’d need a trained system to find the pattern Jul 25 12:46:54 can somebody help with packaging a wear app with the mobile app? Jul 25 12:47:02 CMU released a library for speech recognition: http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/wiki/tutorialandroid Jul 25 12:47:11 I have done everything possible Jul 25 12:47:32 It's been a few weeks since I got this release thing to work and now I can't seem to be able to get it again Jul 25 12:48:00 the micro apk is packaged inside and WearablePkgInstaller seems to be sending the update to the watch but it doesn't show up >_< Jul 25 12:48:52 jonc-1, I just need the hotword recognition, so I'll look into that first, after that I can just use the regular service Jul 25 12:49:10 aye aye Jul 25 12:50:18 implementing a full speech recognizer would be overkill considering android already provides one Jul 25 12:57:37 how do i get the state of a display with an api level <20? Jul 25 12:59:47 by display i mean a display received from the DisplayManager Jul 25 13:03:15 Is it possible to use a Drawable object in a XML file? Jul 25 13:03:26 As in I implement a class which extends Drawable Jul 25 13:05:01 Mavrik, I guess I can't really register my own listening service since their own service is active on every screen by now :( Jul 25 13:24:44 Can I not access private field variables from an inner class? I thought i could... Jul 25 13:27:28 Should be able to Jul 25 13:27:36 OuterClass.this.privateName? Jul 25 13:28:03 Unless it is a public static inner class Jul 25 13:28:06 then you cannot Jul 25 13:28:45 I thought you could just access it by name D: Jul 25 13:28:53 but thanks, that worked Jul 25 13:29:36 you may have something that is the same name inside your inner class Jul 25 13:37:07 gradle noob here: I'm using greendao orm ( https://github.com/greenrobot/greenDAO ). I'd like to use instead one of its fork ( https://github.com/DocuSignDev/greenDAO ) . Should I download, compile it and import the jar (?) in my project? Jul 25 13:41:37 hello guys. Im experiencing a "Unable to create external files directory" only on 4.2.2 devices. Android Manifest requests the correct stuff: http://pastebin.com/Hfbdtfkg Jul 25 13:41:53 It would be so great if someone with more ideas than me could have a look at this Jul 25 13:44:49 <_3mpty> gdrc: or add it as subproject Jul 25 13:45:04 <_3mpty> (module) Jul 25 13:46:52 dewp, that looks like a bug in cordova. Jul 25 13:48:02 oh! why? :-) do you have an idea what i could do for a workaround? device ready isn't even fired... Jul 25 13:49:04 I'm asking this again, but you guys have any suggestions what to change in this activity (design tips in general): http://i.imgur.com/qE1UgWb.png - and also what to do with all the empty space it has Jul 25 13:53:23 can he blurry bg is very bad ;-) Jul 25 13:53:30 never put text on other text Jul 25 13:53:54 -can he Jul 25 13:53:57 lol Jul 25 13:54:13 i'll take that background off then :D Jul 25 13:54:54 yeah. if you're really just working wit text you could take a nicer font. but that differs from person to person what's nice Jul 25 13:55:02 when android terminated an application automatically is that the same as if you go into setting -> apps -> [an app] -> force stop? Jul 25 13:55:31 if you're really into it you could load the covers from cddb and display them there Jul 25 13:55:35 with automatically I mean like if other application need the memory or what ever Jul 25 13:56:14