**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 01 03:00:00 2014 Aug 01 03:45:17 anyone done a master-detail with just one Activity? Aug 01 03:45:31 i would say the majority of people Aug 01 03:45:57 bankai_au all the tutorials use two, it seems like the gmail app does too. how was it, if you did? Aug 01 03:46:41 there's an example on d.android.com that talks about how to do it, it's one of the 'fragment introduction' ones Aug 01 03:50:32 mattblang_ did you see the commonsware presentation on master detail ? Aug 01 03:50:43 g00s I did not Aug 01 03:50:59 http://commonsware.com/blog/2013/11/15/introducing-cwac-masterdetail.html Aug 01 03:51:10 presentation on top Aug 01 03:51:30 it is kinda pita ;) Aug 01 03:51:51 g00s lol, the master-detail in general, or the commonsware? Aug 01 03:52:01 master detail Aug 01 03:52:10 the devil is in the details Aug 01 03:52:13 g00s yeah, i would agree Aug 01 03:53:14 see slide 5 Aug 01 03:53:15 g00s ive got it working perfectly, but I implemented it in the list activity, not the detail activity, and the client wants it the other way around Aug 01 03:53:45 mattblang_ hm, so the client wants 2 activities ? Aug 01 03:54:52 g00s ive got a list activity, and a detail activity. i implemented the master-detail in the list activity. I think gmail does it in the detail activity Aug 01 03:55:16 because if you flip gmail to landscape in the list, you just get a long list. then if you click one you go to master detail Aug 01 03:55:33 mine is opposite, if you flip in detail you just get a wide detail view, but if you flip in the list you get the master-detail Aug 01 03:55:51 oic Aug 01 03:55:56 but the client wants it to be like the gmail app. really though, he wants it to go to master-detail from either screen, which would require a single activity Aug 01 03:56:02 just wasn't sure how hairy it would get Aug 01 03:56:23 lots of managing state Aug 01 03:56:32 g00s yeah, not looking forward to that :( Aug 01 03:56:47 g00s i would just implement master-detail in both list and detail activity, but then back button would be jacked up there Aug 01 03:56:48 almost need a little rule engine :) Aug 01 03:56:55 g00s since there'd be the illusion of it not working on first press Aug 01 03:57:50 g00s i think ill probably just do it like the gmail app, with the "entry" point being on the detail Aug 01 03:58:03 so if the list is flipped to landscape, it will just be long until they click one Aug 01 03:58:16 i like working on the non-UI parts of my app Aug 01 03:58:23 all this stuff drives me nuts Aug 01 03:58:33 Why not just work it like you would if you were designing for tablet? Aug 01 03:58:44 Anthaas that is what im doing Aug 01 03:59:00 Ahh, was beginning to get lost :P Aug 01 03:59:12 Anthaas yeah, we only allow landscape on our tablets Aug 01 03:59:17 i got lost ages ago, i didn't think this kinda thing was overly complex :S Aug 01 03:59:28 bankai_au that is the frustrating part, it does't seem like it Aug 01 03:59:34 but like g00s said, the devil is in the details Aug 01 03:59:41 I hate holding my tablet landscape unless I really need it to be. Aug 01 03:59:58 mattblang_ little details like hidden fragments putting shit in menus :) Aug 01 04:00:08 Anthaas I almost always use my tablet in landscape. do you have 7 or 10 Aug 01 04:00:23 7 Aug 01 04:00:25 g00s yeah I know man. i started out learning fragments to do master-detail. not a good idea to try that when you are just starting to learn fragments. Aug 01 04:00:33 Anthaas yeah, a 7 I might do portrait Aug 01 04:00:58 g00s I hated on fragments for the longest. now that I have used them for doing some tab and view pager stuff, I actually like them Aug 01 04:00:59 rumor has it the next nexus tablet is 4:3 or something Aug 01 04:01:39 g00s but when I had only tried doing master-detail, I hated fragments. I think its because of the little stuff like we have been talking about. drives ya nuts Aug 01 04:27:40 I'm teste achievement using Google Play Game Service. How I erase achievement unlocked in tested account without delete achievement then recreate Aug 01 04:27:56 teste = testing Aug 01 04:57:54 capella do anything with underscore.js ? http://underscorejs.org/ Aug 01 04:59:16 g00s: interesing Aug 01 04:59:41 i learned about it from a book (gasp!) Aug 01 05:00:00 "Functional Javascript" Aug 01 05:05:15 capella have you read "Effective Javascript" ? Aug 01 05:05:38 http://www.amazon.com/Effective-JavaScript-Specific-Software-Development/dp/0321812182 Aug 01 05:06:01 still putting together my JS corriculum, almost done :) Aug 01 05:06:17 ah ... good luck :) Aug 01 05:11:12 why do fragments have different life cycles than that of activities Aug 01 05:11:13 :( Aug 01 05:12:36 because they are different from activities Aug 01 05:13:27 why are they different. Aug 01 05:17:00 detachYo did you post that perl story on HN the other day :P the first time i recall perl being on the front page ;) Aug 01 05:18:38 g00s: hi Aug 01 05:19:09 i didn't do it Aug 01 05:20:03 I am struck up with some concept issues here. I want to develop an application which takes data from the database and displays it in the UI dynamically Aug 01 05:21:15 ok Aug 01 05:21:15 I want to follow this. The UI will entirely take care of the graphics part.then the DAO(data access object and datasource) which will communicate with the db and the Model class and factory class Aug 01 05:21:55 In this way every part will do its duty instead of a static approach. Aug 01 05:22:46 Can you redirect me to some tutorial on this(some links which I can refer)? Aug 01 05:23:03 g00s, must've missed it, what was it about? TBH, I haven't seen many Perl stories either. Aug 01 05:23:07 on HN, that is Aug 01 05:23:20 hm, i don't use DAOs ... just plain cursors. i can't think of a tut offhand niru Aug 01 05:23:33 I am having a weird issue. Aug 01 05:24:11 I have a method in my class that extends BaseColumns Aug 01 05:24:31 that does return CONTENT_URI.buildUpon().appendPath(itemId).build(); Aug 01 05:24:44 ok g00s Aug 01 05:24:51 Then in provider's query method, I have one that takes care of it, but I get an error Aug 01 05:25:03 which is not being explicit enough for me to understand what's going on Aug 01 05:25:15 maybe I need to know how to throw exceptions correctly. Aug 01 05:46:04 Hello Aug 01 05:46:08 Anyone here use mopub? Aug 01 05:46:22 I'm trying to integrate admob correctly and can't figure something out. Aug 01 05:46:46 It's asking for a username, API password, and API key Aug 01 05:47:00 but there is no way to get this from admob.... so I am really confused Aug 01 05:52:20 not sure if oath works right Aug 01 05:54:55 never mind Aug 01 06:47:23 anyone around Aug 01 06:47:32 Agamemnus: yes Aug 01 06:47:40 wondering why I can't invoke jarsigner outside its own directory :\ Aug 01 06:47:55 whenever I do this, I get "please specify alias name" Aug 01 06:48:23 Even if I do 'C:\"Program Files"\Java\jdk1.8.0_11\bin\jarsigner -help' Aug 01 06:48:53 what it is saying? Aug 01 06:49:50 that is it Aug 01 06:50:29 Please specify alias name Aug 01 06:50:38 Please type jarsigner -help for usage Aug 01 06:51:01 If I CD inside the directory, it works Aug 01 06:51:49 I can pass to my second activity ArrayList, right? Aug 01 06:52:20 simply i2.putExtra("playlist", playlist); ist not working Aug 01 06:53:09 look up and see what putextra takes Aug 01 06:53:15 its not an arraylist, ill tell you that Aug 01 06:56:01 I've read I need to serialize it Aug 01 06:58:18 Agamemnus, it's really simple - jarsigner is actually a generic batch file used for invoking .jar files, however it seems it is poorly written and only looks for needed .jars in the current directory Aug 01 07:13:23 ravilov: okay, got it. thanks Aug 01 07:37:36 so, passing ArrayList to intent is not one-liner? Aug 01 07:45:25 i've found this example: http://pastebin.com/AvhRawWF Aug 01 07:45:30 should this work? Aug 01 07:46:27 why don't you try it an see? Aug 01 07:48:39 problem solved Aug 01 07:54:26 maybe http://www.parcelabler.com/ is useful for next time Aug 01 07:56:36 There's also a neat IDEA plugin :) Aug 01 07:58:10 AutoParcelable Aug 01 07:58:46 https://github.com/frankiesardo/auto-parcel Aug 01 07:58:49 Never tried it Aug 01 07:58:49 cool, I haven't tried it Aug 01 07:58:50 thanks Aug 01 07:58:52 But it's there :p Aug 01 08:13:12 how does one handle onBackButtonPressed when the configuration changes i.e when screen orientation changes Aug 01 08:21:53 gmg85: I'm not sure what you mean? when the screen orientation changes you should rebuild your activity in exactly the way it was before, so the back button works just the same>? Aug 01 08:23:38 onBackButtonPressed doesn't fire when i start my app in landscape mode.. Aug 01 08:23:51 wonder what i might be doing wrong Aug 01 08:27:50 onBackButtonPressed should not be orientation-dependant at all Aug 01 08:27:56 i think i found my problem Aug 01 08:28:18 the problem is that on landscape mode the nav drawer is open Aug 01 08:28:49 and I havent called setFocusableInTouchMode Aug 01 08:29:02 according to some explanation on stackoverflow Aug 01 08:30:18 yup Aug 01 08:30:21 that was it Aug 01 08:33:02 hi guys i have installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a vmware and now i am tring to Install required packages Aug 01 08:33:08 but i cant seem to get libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 installed Aug 01 08:33:52 i get this error http://pastebin.com/AMe5Fbuz Aug 01 08:34:32 Ubuntu?Wrong room buddy Aug 01 08:34:48 i am following this http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html Aug 01 08:34:57 oh Aug 01 08:35:18 my bad Aug 01 08:35:20 still not really the right channel... Aug 01 08:36:04 is it really required i skipped it and every thing seemed ok Aug 01 08:39:10 hello everybody. Aug 01 08:39:41 i have a requirement in which i have i have 2 views one above the another . Aug 01 08:40:08 when i click the upper view i want to get the id of the below view. Is there any way i can do that ? Aug 01 08:40:38 surely they both belong to a single root view Aug 01 08:43:23 ok Aug 01 08:43:47 but i need to id of that particular view which i under my current clicked view Aug 01 08:44:04 my current clicked view is movable . I can drag and drop it anywhere Aug 01 08:45:13 that's not a probelm Aug 01 08:45:15 problem* Aug 01 08:46:08 getRootView().findViewById(ID) Aug 01 08:47:41 oh wait, I think I understand now - you don't know the ID, you just want to know which view you are over? Aug 01 08:47:47 hmmm Aug 01 08:47:51 correct Aug 01 08:48:06 i may be knowing the x and y coordinates of the view Aug 01 08:51:13 this is actually trickier than it might seem and cannot be answered accurately without further knowledge of your situation Aug 01 08:51:50 when exactly are you considered to be "over" a view? when your "floating" view merely touches the other view, or when it's fully inside it, or partially, or...? Aug 01 08:52:38 Is it possible to select a higher dpi class drawable explicitly? Aug 01 08:54:43 platzhirsch, I've seen some apps fetch strings from a different locale by changing the locale field in the local Configuration instance, perhaps a similar thing can be done with the densityDpi field? Aug 01 08:55:04 ravilov: the situation is something like this . Aug 01 08:55:08 ravilov: but maybe it's not necessary I am looking into supporting tablets, maybe using the new layout qualifiers it works withou tthat Aug 01 08:55:21 i have a floating view which i can drag to any place i want Aug 01 08:56:04 platzhirsch, yeah I'm not going into details about your specific case but generally you should configure your resources as accurately as possible and then let the system manage them Aug 01 08:56:18 sunny_slls, yes I got that Aug 01 08:56:51 i can leave this view at any point on my activity. My activity contains many other views. When i leave this view above any particular view i want to know the ID of that view Aug 01 08:57:07 Do I need to change anything in my app due to the changes to the Advertising ID, even though I don't actually advertise? Aug 01 08:57:13 ravilov: based on that ID I want to print the name of that view Aug 01 08:57:35 i mean the text Aug 01 08:58:10 sunny_slls, you're missing my point Aug 01 08:58:19 define "above a view" Aug 01 09:02:34 ravilov: the above view is nothing but an imageview with an image in it Aug 01 09:03:13 onTouch() of this imageView i am trying to update the position of the view based on the calculated coordinates Aug 01 09:04:20 sunny_slls, I don't care what the view is, define what "above a view" actually *means* Aug 01 09:05:22 ravilov: means that it will be at the top of another view. Aug 01 09:05:49 that says nothing... Aug 01 09:06:13 consider a scenario that you have an image1 and image2 in a layout. Image1 is on the left hand side of the layout and image 2 is on the right hand side of the layout Aug 01 09:07:00 ravilov: now i drag image2 to the left hand side of the layout. So now you won't be able to see image1 because image2 is on top of that Aug 01 09:07:46 ok, so your definition of "above a view" is "fully contained within another view" Aug 01 09:07:49 correct? Aug 01 09:07:50 consider image1 is bigger than image2 . then in that case when you drag image2 on image1 then you can only see some parts of image1 which are not hidden by image2 Aug 01 09:07:59 correct Aug 01 09:08:25 sorry for my lousy description Aug 01 09:08:34 so if I drag the image only two-thirds of a way (so that only 2/3 of the view is inside another view), that's not considered "above" Aug 01 09:08:38 correct? Aug 01 09:09:07 yeah .. you can say that Aug 01 09:09:26 ok, because such details are actually very important Aug 01 09:10:02 anyways the important part is that i want the hidden image's id Aug 01 09:10:11 yeah I get that Aug 01 09:10:12 well Aug 01 09:10:14 the view which got hidden Aug 01 09:11:42 I guess you'll just have to walk through the view hierarchy (checking if a view is a ViewGroup, if so walk through all its children, if not just check the view), get the current layout parameters for each view (x, y, width, height), and compare them to your "floating" view's current position Aug 01 09:12:20 if you determine your floating view with its current position and size fits fully within a particular view, then there you go, you found your view Aug 01 09:12:33 probably not the best way to do this but I can't really think of any other Aug 01 09:14:44 ok thanks Aug 01 10:08:57 Hello Aug 01 10:09:05 One question Aug 01 10:09:12 yay, b0t is back! Aug 01 10:09:27 Uf man Aug 01 10:09:34 U live here? Aug 01 10:09:45 Didn't I ban him? Aug 01 10:11:01 Guess he was smart enough to figure out it was a nick ban Aug 01 10:11:05 Most aren't :p Aug 01 10:11:30 he's been using a couple of different nicks anyway Aug 01 10:11:44 but you're probably right Aug 01 10:12:56 He's angry now Aug 01 10:13:19 wonder why :p Aug 01 10:13:26 yeah, they do that Aug 01 10:14:20 >.< Aug 01 10:34:18 Hello ! What is the best library to draw histograms on Android ? Aug 01 10:42:52 Chainfire, are you Chainfire of SuperSU? if so, I could use some advice :) Aug 01 10:44:11 I want to show an animation that slides in a fragment. That is, when the fragment is added/shown, it should appear gradually, sliding in from the top. I have a layout and some code that does this, except its only the textview inside my fragment that is animated - the fragment itself, including its background color, appears and disappears directly without any animation. What gives? Layout: http://bpaste.net/show/1f5fUKTNxiKn6NOzORQ2 - Code: http://bpaste. Aug 01 10:45:33 liefer: your last paste url was cut short because your message was too long Aug 01 10:45:58 Oh, thanks. My irc client sucks, didnt warn me about that =S Aug 01 10:46:05 code: http://bpaste.net/show/J3VqNsioRe6FrllICKhJ/ Aug 01 10:46:35 liefer: weechat automatically splits it into several messages. ^^ Aug 01 10:47:25 liefer: whats with this layout? its this suppose to be your activity layout? Aug 01 10:47:59 Napalm: hmm? yes Aug 01 10:48:12 liefer: so where is your fragment's layout? Aug 01 10:48:19 I add my "_bottomFragment" to the overlay_fragment id Aug 01 10:49:33 you do understand this activity layout is screwed up Aug 01 10:49:39 it probably is not going to do what you want Aug 01 10:50:03 Is it? What do you mean its screwed up Aug 01 10:50:09 do you want your overlay_fragment to put its content over the top of the rest of things? Aug 01 10:50:16 Yes Aug 01 10:50:51 can you draw a picture with some colored blocks as to how you expect things to be laid out. and upload it Aug 01 10:51:03 Sure, give me a sec Aug 01 10:55:59 hello Aug 01 10:56:09 I require some help...with a multiselectlistpreference Aug 01 10:56:14 Napalm: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/462241/Untitled.png Aug 01 10:56:14 how can I make it select all by default? Aug 01 10:56:33 My drawing skills are.... lacking to say the least. But hopefully you can make sense of it Aug 01 10:57:01 heh Aug 01 10:58:29 Like i said, i feel like im almost there, since the textview inside my overlay_fragment behaves as i want. Its "just" that the fragment background, does not. It is not being animated but instead appears "on/off"-ish with no animation Aug 01 10:58:55 I fixed it Aug 01 10:58:57 liefer: edit your layout and rename your LinearLayout's to FrameLayout and remove android:orientation attributes and see how it behaves. Aug 01 10:58:59 I needed to setDefaultValues Aug 01 10:59:56 Is it a problem that I have about 3000 Log.e("testing", "test1");s? Aug 01 11:00:01 liefer: also, whats the layout for your bottomFragment look like Aug 01 11:00:52 Moony22: i guess it would be a problem if your trying to find a bug and all you can see is testing, test1 Aug 01 11:03:01 Napalm: BottomFragment is here: http://bpaste.net/show/daIvmF9vklnBJwaC6LQ6/ Aug 01 11:03:33 I changed the LinearLayouts to Framelayouts, no apparent change in behavior Aug 01 11:03:40 good Aug 01 11:03:49 its a tad more optimal now Aug 01 11:04:31 SimonVT: I stepped away from my PC for a bit :) Aug 01 11:04:53 liefer: now change your RelativeLayout to a LinearLayout in your BottomFragment and get rid of the RelativeLayout layout params and add android:orientation="horizontal" to it Aug 01 11:05:28 liefer: let me send you a new layouty Aug 01 11:07:16 Napalm: can you paste it somewhere? I dont think i can accept file transfers Aug 01 11:07:40 liefer: http://bpaste.net/show/8feSLGVQ138RFqKcNuHl/ Aug 01 11:07:40 hello friends :) i have a question. I built a whole android from aurora code, then i modify some .java files from framework/base/services and make services.jar. Now, how to replace it correctly? (i have eng build with root on my device) And sorry for bad english :) Aug 01 11:08:43 Cause when i'm trying simply push and chmod 644 it stocks in a boot loop Aug 01 11:08:45 liefer: also make sure you set text on those text' views during onCreateView or onViewCreated of your bottomfragment.. or the view might not be measured and laid out ready for the animation to occur Aug 01 11:10:04 liefer: i forgot the orientation attribute, updated: http://bpaste.net/show/rlra3iCBKWykgqVPxXbR/ Aug 01 11:12:28 Napalm: thank you, trying... Aug 01 11:15:41 Napalm: hmm i dont see much change to be honest. I was not setting the textviews previously, but now im setting their text in onViewCreated() Aug 01 11:16:24 can i make small queries to sqlite local db in UI thread or it is wrong way and i should use loaders or background threads? Aug 01 11:17:30 Napalm: actually i can set them as early as in onCreateView(), although that does not appear to change anything Aug 01 11:21:07 hmm Aug 01 11:22:59 liefer: so you see the TextView's and their content animate.. but just not the background? Aug 01 11:25:24 v_for_vasiliev, that is indeed the correct way to replace the file, the fact it makes the system bootloop means your new services.jar is probably not valid; you can't just simply change system services without having deep impact on the entire rest of the system Aug 01 11:25:37 that's another thing I learned the hard way Aug 01 11:26:06 Napalm: correct Aug 01 11:27:04 liefer: doh, what version of Android are you testing this on? Aug 01 11:27:44 ravilov: thanks :) Aug 01 11:27:49 Napalm: 4.1 Aug 01 11:28:39 damn, not what I thought Aug 01 11:28:54 liefer: ok, does the background show up.. after the animation has finished? Aug 01 11:29:35 The background shows up first, "on/off"-ish (dont know how else to describe it. Without any animation). Then the textviews are animated in Aug 01 11:30:29 yo? Aug 01 11:32:17 Napalm: uh, i fixed it Aug 01 11:32:30 I dont understand why :( Aug 01 11:32:41 I set "android:animateLayoutChanges="true"" in the fragment container view Aug 01 11:32:44 and it works Aug 01 11:32:51 lol Aug 01 11:33:06 Why is that necessary when i explicitly say that my fragment transaction should do an animation? Aug 01 11:33:14 it isnt Aug 01 11:33:24 It works, though Aug 01 11:33:24 if you remove your customAnimations Aug 01 11:33:31 you'll notice it still animates Aug 01 11:33:39 because the layoutchanges is providing the animations Aug 01 11:33:55 meh, it works, so just be happy Aug 01 11:34:07 Yes, but it uses my custom animation. Sliding in from the top is not the standard animation AFAIK...? Aug 01 11:34:28 Im happy :). But always nice to actually understand whats going on :P Aug 01 11:35:02 SQLiteDatabase.update with simple 'where' fast enough for run it on UI thread, people? Aug 01 11:37:32 Nevermind, that IS the standard animation provided by the layoutchanges Aug 01 11:38:12 any tips about how i can hide a preference in an app settings like this? https://github.com/danieloeh/AntennaPod/blob/master/src/de/danoeh/antennapod/preferences/UserPreferences.java Aug 01 11:38:27 This is weird. Should investigate wtf is going on another day. Oh well, thanks a lot for your help Napalm Aug 01 11:42:58 hey guys, I imported a project to Android Studio, everything went well but it didn't pull in anything related to git for that project. What can be done? Aug 01 11:43:54 ondroed, that question is way too broad Aug 01 11:44:06 When migrating from Eclipse to Android Studio, for the remote repo, what is recommended? Create a entire new repository for it? Aug 01 11:46:31 mikechelen, what exactly do you need to do? just hide/remove a preference from a preference screen? Aug 01 11:46:46 ravilov: yup thats right Aug 01 11:47:24 ravilov: i was looking at https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2240326/remove-hide-a-preference-from-the-screen but cant figure out how to apply it Aug 01 11:47:40 many ways to do this, depending on what info you have available Aug 01 11:48:12 using PreferenceGroup.removePreference() is one way Aug 01 11:48:16 ravilov: thats the confusing part, i dont have a PreferenceScreen afaik Aug 01 11:48:31 or a PreferenceGroup :D Aug 01 11:49:24 i have a UserPreferences Aug 01 11:49:53 yes which is your "invented" class Aug 01 11:50:03 are you using standard android preferences at all here? Aug 01 11:50:06 doesn't seem like you do Aug 01 11:50:08 oh i think PreferenceScreen is in another file Aug 01 11:50:19 in css its normal to utilise strips of icons/images and then use a background offset to display the correct image on screen from a single downloaded "strip of images". Is there anything similar in Android or is it best to keep all bitmaps as seperate files? Aug 01 11:50:28 it's someone else's code im trying to figure it out Aug 01 11:50:30 what you posted looks like just your own preference manager Aug 01 11:50:37 hm, well post your own code Aug 01 11:50:49 well this is what im trying to modify Aug 01 11:50:53 and contribute to the project Aug 01 11:51:22 rgr, this technique has a very specific background and reasoning that applies very well to css/http, but does not apply at all to android Aug 01 11:52:04 rgr, while you *can* do it that way, it is extremely inefficient and requires a lot of manual work Aug 01 11:52:09 so there really is no point Aug 01 11:53:18 ravilov: ah well i found https://github.com/danieloeh/AntennaPod/blob/master/src/de/danoeh/antennapod/activity/PreferenceActivity.java maybe that will do the trick Aug 01 11:57:13 mikechelen, that's better, but I would also need preferences.xml (as referenced by line 78 in that file) and also the name of the preference you want to remove Aug 01 11:58:32 ravilov: preferences.xml: https://github.com/danieloeh/AntennaPod/blob/master/res/xml/preferences.xml Aug 01 11:59:05 lets says for example "prefPauseOnHeadsetDisconnect" Aug 01 12:04:27 mikechelen, looks like the last answer posted on stackoverflow should work in your case Aug 01 12:05:37 ravilov: cool thanks, im trying that now Aug 01 12:05:42 a PreferenceActivity can obtain references to both PreferenceScreen and PreferenceManager via the appropriate methods, from thereon it should be simple Aug 01 12:08:29 ravilov: any particular place the code should go, is within onCreate() ok? Aug 01 12:10:22 mikechelen, anywhere after "addPreferencesFromResource(R.xml.preferences);" is okay Aug 01 12:14:57 ravilov: hmm it doesnt seem to have an effect Aug 01 12:14:57 Out of interest, what would the difference be between PreferencesManager.getDefaultPreferences(context), and getSharedPreferences(String name, int mode) ? Aug 01 12:15:16 Anthaas: the former just calls the latter but with a standard default string Aug 01 12:15:19 basically Aug 01 12:15:35 Ahhh, so each app has some default preferences (I assume private?) set up for it? Aug 01 12:16:00 Not "set up" really, it's just a standard name I think Aug 01 12:16:25 hy all Aug 01 12:16:53 Ahh, trying to understand what you mean by standard? Is the instance of preferences set up when the app is created, or is there like a common collection? Aug 01 12:17:05 does anybody have android phone what's proximity sensor measures distance in centimeter and not with 2 values? (far/near) Aug 01 12:17:25 ravilov: this is the current code snippet: http://pastebin.com/i4ggKaEa Aug 01 12:18:05 Anthaas, yes, the default shared preference file for an app is "[PACKAGE]_preferences.xml" Aug 01 12:18:15 Ahhh cool thanks. Aug 01 12:18:26 Are they private? Aug 01 12:18:34 yes? Aug 01 12:18:38 i.e. can't be modified by another app that knows the name of some app on the device? Aug 01 12:18:40 ahh ok thanks. Aug 01 12:18:57 Anthaas: you can have different collections of shared preferences that you might use depending on a context. So I might use getSharedPreferences("statusPrefs", 0) to store a load of status codes and getSharedPreferences("user1", 0) to store preferences related to user1 (or 2, 3 etc.). getDefaultSharedPreferences is basically the same as getSharedPreferences("default", 0). Aug 01 12:19:00 they are stored within the app's private folder (within /data/data) which is itself private to the app Aug 01 12:20:05 Brilliant, thanks. Aug 01 12:20:05 mikechelen, first of all, you shouldn't use a hardcoded constant -- replace "16" with Build.VERSION_CODES.JELLY_BEAN Aug 01 12:20:43 Hey everyone, does anyone know if it is possible to upload apks with incremented version codes but with the same version name? Aug 01 12:20:55 mikechelen, second of all, are you sure your condition meets the requirements (ie. the API level)? try running it unconditionally, ie. remove the "if" around it Aug 01 12:21:46 somebody? Aug 01 12:21:49 ravilov: ah ok ill try it that way, i am running in a 3.2 avd Aug 01 12:23:21 3.2 is HONEYCOMB_MR2 which is 13 which is obviously less than 16 so it should work... but try unconditionally just in case Aug 01 12:23:34 ravilov: tried it, still no dice Aug 01 12:24:19 ok, try removing getPreferenceManager() in your block Aug 01 12:24:39 so it ends up like this: Preference pref = findPreference("prefExpandNotify"); Aug 01 12:25:16 ok one sec Aug 01 12:26:46 nope still no change Aug 01 12:27:51 ok, next check if pref is null Aug 01 12:28:04 use your favorite way to check this, mine is System.err.println() ;) Aug 01 12:29:06 mikechelen, er, wait... "prefExpandNotify" is not mentioned anywhere within that XML Aug 01 12:30:13 ravilov: ah sorry thats the upstream ill link my fork Aug 01 12:30:43 https://github.com/mchelen/AntennaPod/blob/notifymore/res/xml/preferences.xml Aug 01 12:31:08 for null check something like: if(pref == null){Log.d,"foo","pref is null"} Aug 01 12:31:23 sure, that should work Aug 01 12:32:05 and yeah, always link YOUR OWN code, linking to other code is useless and just confusing, even if your code is based on other code Aug 01 12:32:25 anyway, if pref is null, I think I know why Aug 01 12:32:40 yup true, i didnt notice it was the wrong tab Aug 01 12:34:07 mikechelen, if pref is null, try working with findPreferenceInHierarchy() instead of findPreference() Aug 01 12:34:38 ravilov: it appears to not be null, i am not seeing my log message Aug 01 12:35:14 you should just skip any "if" checks and print it out directly Aug 01 12:35:25 that way you know it actually gets to that part of code Aug 01 12:35:44 Log.d("pref", pref); Aug 01 12:35:58 ravilov: yeah thats what I thought : the main and only reason I was thinking of something like that was to reduce the number of drawables for things not requiring any specific efficiency in terms of runtime. eg menu icons. afaik I still cant use directories and the whole prefix_ notion is SO 1986... Aug 01 12:36:29 ravilov: i got a compilation error from that, error: no suitable method found for d(String,Preference) Aug 01 12:36:57 mikechelen, ok, try Log.d("pref", (pref == null) ? "NULL" : "NOT NULL"); Aug 01 12:37:39 rgr, yes, you can't use subdirs, so you're stuck with prefixes just like the rest of us Aug 01 12:37:42 that's the android way :p Aug 01 12:38:07 eventually you might get used to seeing underscores as slashes Aug 01 12:38:24 (probably not) Aug 01 12:39:32 ravilov: ok it says "NOT NULL" Aug 01 12:39:44 rgr, the android way is to also have as many drawables as you need and to never attempt to "compress" several into one, reason being some drawables are used in a very specific way (hint: 9-patch PNGs) Aug 01 12:39:59 mikechelen, hm, I see Aug 01 12:42:16 Anthaas, ... you asked that not an hour ago Aug 01 12:42:25 ... oops dangit Aug 01 12:42:26 hmmm? Aug 01 12:42:29 ravilov: i guess alternatively i could take the preference out of the .xml and add it manually in the activity within an if block Aug 01 12:42:29 was scrolled back Aug 01 12:42:30 sorry Aug 01 12:42:42 Anthaas, carry on, my bad Aug 01 12:42:44 Oh, np haha Aug 01 12:43:03 Was just looking at Googles IO code which made me ask. Might as well make myself better by doing a few things they do I guess Aug 01 12:43:13 mikechelen, that would not be a good approach Aug 01 12:43:16 sure none of which has any relevance really since no matter how they are packaged they can still be unpackaged. obviously 9-patch is a different form of packing. Aug 01 12:43:53 mikechelen, try this instead: findPreference("prefExpandNotify").setEnabled(false); Aug 01 12:44:04 see if that disables it Aug 01 12:45:19 ok trying Aug 01 12:46:19 If I'm using a fragment that acts as a tabview for other fragments, I add the tab fragments in the parent's onCreateView, and also set the actionBar's navigation mode to tabs. However, when the parent fragment is added to the activity, the tabs show up for a split second, then disappear. Any thoughts on what I'm missing to make this work right? Aug 01 12:46:52 ravilov: ah that greys it out Aug 01 12:47:11 good, at least that is working Aug 01 12:47:25 no idea why it won't get removed though Aug 01 12:48:08 yeah that might have to be good enough Aug 01 12:48:13 ravilov yes Aug 01 12:50:33 mikechelen, from what I'm reading you have two options here: 1) assign an ID to the that contains your preference, find it in your activity, and then use it to remove the preference; 2) walk the entire preference tree trying to find the "parent" of your preference and then use that to remove the preference Aug 01 12:50:44 or of course 3) be content with just graying it out Aug 01 12:50:51 Chainfire, awesome, got a moment? Aug 01 12:50:58 sure Aug 01 12:51:23 so your SuperSU has the ability to move itself to /system, can you give me an outline of how does it do that? Aug 01 12:51:59 I'm trying to do something similar, I got to the point where I copy myself to /system/app, but my activity terminates abruptly as soon as I delete myself from /data/app Aug 01 12:52:04 to be expected I guess... Aug 01 12:52:21 ravilov: if you have any links on how to do 1 or 2 that would be great when you have a chance Aug 01 12:52:30 ravilov remount /system r/w, copy its own APK to /system/app, delete itself from /data/app, more or less Aug 01 12:52:45 yes, it is normal for the app to terminate once removed Aug 01 12:53:00