**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 28 02:59:59 2014 Sep 28 03:13:49 is there a system drawable that has both pressed and selected states for list items? Sep 28 03:14:25 @android:drawable/list_selector_background doesn't indicate the selected state Sep 28 03:17:11 there is any website with recommended color or design suggestions for android? Sep 28 03:17:45 i had to design both thorn, pressed and unpressed default state Sep 28 03:19:36 is there* Sep 28 03:50:25 cliffreich other than http://developer.android.com/design/index.html ? Sep 28 04:00:11 why is there item_background_activated_holo_dark.xml in the sdk, it's not referenced anywhere in res/ Sep 28 04:02:23 and there is no mention of state_selected anywhere either Sep 28 04:02:45 (I mean themes and drawables) Sep 28 04:13:47 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11504860/what-is-the-difference-between-the-states-selected-checked-and-activated-in-and Sep 28 04:34:07 as a usable resource convenience? Sep 28 05:27:23 That feel when you've spent the last 2 hours devising a regex to capture the last octet of an IP address :/ Sep 28 05:34:17 ....what? Sep 28 05:34:47 why not just use lastIndexOf(‘.’) and substr? Sep 28 05:35:20 Darklust: ? Sep 28 05:36:33 JacobTabak: Because I'm a fool Sep 28 05:36:37 lol Sep 28 05:37:41 i guess the regex can validate though Sep 28 06:58:32 hi, is it possible to record a video without creating the preview class? I don't care what it actually records. http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/media/camera.html#capture-video Sep 28 08:40:54 if i posted a class of my code could you guys rate me or give feedback on my general coding ? Sep 28 08:42:56 I'll tell you how pretty it is :] Sep 28 08:48:30 Can someone point me to some place where I can see different UI element styles and how they look? Sep 28 08:48:43 danzat: d.android.com/training Sep 28 08:49:31 That's a guide....I need something like an index... Sep 28 08:51:13 hmmm Sep 28 08:51:22 try applying in AndroidStudio Sep 28 08:55:31 thepoosh: hehe...I'm a commandline monkey. I guess this is where my decisions come back to bite my posterior Sep 28 08:55:44 yep yep Sep 28 08:56:02 that and the weird choice to abandon IDEs Sep 28 08:56:06 that are awesome! Sep 28 08:56:57 I'm adamant though Sep 28 08:58:28 Darklust: Sep 28 08:58:30 http://pastebin.com/VAGT4wYw Sep 28 08:58:41 ^ am i a terrible coder Sep 28 09:03:30 o_o Well it looks very lengthy, but you clearly know what you're doing lol Sep 28 09:05:36 Darklust: haha thanks, i wish i knew what i was doing when i look back at my code sometimes ! Sep 28 09:07:22 zylinx: That's the reason mine tends to be littered with comments, some relevant, but mostly ascii drawings :] Sep 28 09:52:37 is there any way to get HAXM to run under linux? Sep 28 09:55:16 no, are you having performance trouble with the emulator on linux though? :o Sep 28 09:56:04 no performance trouble, but i find it pretty slow Sep 28 09:56:13 so yes, maybe performance trouble :p Sep 28 11:24:22 hi there. I've got a issue with my phone and now I'm trying to fix the "bug"= my phone number is not detected as it should(Settings->about phone -> status -> My Phone Number is "unknown") Sep 28 11:25:07 can someone give me a hint where to start looking? Sep 28 11:25:22 You can try looking in #android, this channel is for app dev Sep 28 11:28:09 ok, i thought finding and fixing a bug in a andoid os (cyanogenmod for yuga) is also something for the dev channel?! Sep 28 11:29:11 I'm sure there are channels for that, but, as the topic states, this is for app dev Sep 28 11:29:58 okay, sorry for that Sep 28 11:30:25 is there a channel for android system development? Sep 28 11:30:47 ...instead of app development Sep 28 11:32:51 i know the cyanogenmod channel, but i thought there is something "universal" where devs from different "roms" can have a chat with the people that write the android source / or write different roms Sep 28 11:35:44 That would be #android Sep 28 11:53:23 thank you, have a nice day! :) Sep 28 12:25:23 If you do RunOnUiThread() will that get posted and then run later or will it run immediately? but the thread calling this fucntion won't block and will continue to do what it did? Sep 28 12:45:13 if the onPause is called for a game, what is the best thing to do with your gameloop? stop your thread completely or just let it run without doing anything? Sep 28 13:04:21 Zharf, don't misinform people - https://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2012/03/12/how-to-start-intel-hardware-assisted-virtualization-hypervisor-on-linux-to-speed-up-intel-android-x86-gingerbread-emulator Sep 28 13:04:33 sorry for long link, that's intel's fault :p Sep 28 13:04:55 short link: http://intel.ly/1vjCJJs Sep 28 13:05:05 Strat, ^ Sep 28 13:06:32 on the other hand... others say HAXM is not even needed on linux: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22216708/haxm-not-working-on-linux Sep 28 13:07:27 Hi Sep 28 13:09:16 I made a intent and pass some data, and if the intent is empty i want the sharedpreferences to put it's value that I choosed. Does anyone know how to do it? I wrote my code but its not working: http://pastebin.com/YGf7x981 Sep 28 13:10:10 if the onPause is called for a game, what is the best thing to do with your gameloop? stop your thread completely or just let it run without doing anything? Sep 28 13:16:24 I want to get latitude/longitude of any device by its number. Is there any API that does the job? Or do I need thrid party services for this. Sep 28 13:18:26 how do I know an Intent is empty and doesn't have any string in it? I have many string can't make it one by one. I wana know if it's entirely empty of strings Sep 28 13:20:07 ravilov, I get 60fps emulator on linux without anything special, and that haxm that's in the sdk thingie say not for this platform so who cares :p Sep 28 13:20:27 on the other hand, emulator's mostly useslss, get a real device Sep 28 13:21:51 peyam, 1) why are you using getSharedPreferences()? that's not how you use sharedprefs, 2) there is Intnet.getExtras().isEmpty(), you should look up Bundle Sep 28 13:22:03 troned, wouldn't that depend on what exactly your game is about? Sep 28 13:23:07 Zharf, yeah the other link says HAXM isn't even needed on linux because linux already has all the stuff needed, but also you can't generalize like that, emulator is definitely not useless, and not everybody has a spare device that's just for testing Sep 28 13:23:26 ravilov, can you give me some tips. where am I wrong more specific? Sep 28 13:23:40 I just gave you tips Sep 28 13:23:42 ravilov, they should ;) Sep 28 13:23:58 Zharf, and they will, as soon as you buy them one ;) Sep 28 13:24:16 I run Linux and never heard of HAXM, so whatever it is, it's not "needed" to dev :) Sep 28 13:24:37 ravilov, this is my first intent.. http://pastebin.com/GMhgtd5G Sep 28 13:24:38 it's an intel component for virtualization Sep 28 13:25:07 which poor inadequate windows doesn't have built in so needs external support, but linux already comes with :p Sep 28 13:25:10 thanks Sep 28 13:27:02 peyam, there are hundreds of examples and tutorials out there on how to use SharedPreferences, please look up some Sep 28 13:27:31 yes. I am looking on my lectures slides. and I used it exacly how my teacher writes Sep 28 13:28:37 I never mentioned you shoud look at slides or listen to your teacher... internet is the greatest teacher Sep 28 13:30:23 ravilov, Im sorry. im a newbie. I just dont get this :( Sep 28 13:30:46 lol ravilov, internet drastically lacks of pedagogy Sep 28 13:30:57 i would not call that a best teacher ;) and it's full of noise and disinformation Sep 28 13:31:24 drastically and inherently* Sep 28 13:31:58 String medRubrik = prefs.getString("rubrik", "Din annons saknar rubrik"); means if the "rubrik" is empty set this text instead Sep 28 13:32:15 yes Sep 28 13:33:20 peyam, to be honest, given the vast amount of available online resources, this channel is not the best place for newbies, it's meant for support once you grasp the basic concepts. if something is unclear, either use the mentioned online resources, or ask your teacher. Sep 28 13:33:51 when navigation drawer is open, back pressing dont close it. do i have to close drawer in Activity::onBackPressed manually OR it should close itself (ie my code has problem) Sep 28 13:33:52 So the error is the way I use sharedpreferences? Sep 28 13:34:40 peyam, not necessarily, but that's at least one thing I noticed Sep 28 13:36:48 @ravilov - Do you run this channel and therefore have made the determination that this is not a place for newbies? The Android documentation implies it’s a place for support: http://developer.android.com/support.html Sep 28 13:38:08 colabug, no, I'm speaking from experience based on my own observations of this channel, ie. I'm not making it up or making it a rule, I'm saying how it already is Sep 28 13:38:27 and yes, I know about official documentation, that doesn't mean much Sep 28 13:38:59 if you come in here with newbie questions, pretty much everybody in here will tell you to go look at tutorials Sep 28 13:39:10 @ravilov well that’s sad if one of the only places people could hang out and ask for help has become so toxic to newbies that they can’t ask questions. Sep 28 13:39:37 Which is a bullshit RTFM attitude. Sep 28 13:39:41 inappropriate != toxic Sep 28 13:40:06 also, what's with the @ notation? I'm not a java annotation y'know :p Sep 28 13:40:18 Failure to google/go through the training docs/know java is generally frowned upon Sep 28 13:40:57 I’m an old school IRC user, so @ is for a message to you! :-P Sep 28 13:41:30 The assumption is that people don’t read the docs. I read the docs often - they are often confusing and often incomplete. Sep 28 13:42:05 well I for one see no reason to tolerate people's failure and/or laziness Sep 28 13:42:10 The reality is that people don't read the docs Sep 28 13:42:16 the docs are perfectly fine and useful to me Sep 28 13:42:20 Then you are part of the problem with computing Sep 28 13:42:34 I'm okay with that Sep 28 13:43:15 also, this is interesting, I've been on IRC for a long time too and I've never seen the @ being used literally anywhere, to me it comes from people used to twitting Sep 28 13:43:58 Maybe I kinda hate IRC and haven’t used it much since the 90’s Sep 28 13:44:09 maybe that's kinda obvious :p Sep 28 13:44:13 Always full of unhelpful people Sep 28 13:44:14 colabug, be aware I'm talking about the actual state and attitude of this channel (with which I happen to agree), your disagreeance won't really change anything Sep 28 13:44:37 Individual actions, decisions, and words change things Sep 28 13:44:43 uhhuh Sep 28 13:44:53 you have to be really charismatic for that to happen Sep 28 13:45:03 Or just helpful Sep 28 13:45:11 @ symbol …. Channel operator—can change channel modes and kick users out of the channel among other things Sep 28 13:45:29 yeah, ops have @, but I'm not an op ;) Sep 28 13:46:01 also yeah, being helpful is nice, and I try to be whenever I can, but that never changed anything and it never will; if you believe it will, then you're in for some disappointment Sep 28 13:46:13 Lol Sep 28 13:46:57 It took me 2 hours to code a regex to grab the last octet of an IP address :x Sep 28 13:47:00 * Darklust cowers Sep 28 13:47:09 either way... keep doing what you're doing and I'll keep doing what I'm doing, no need to argue, and being bitter about what other people are doing is definitely not going to change anything Sep 28 13:47:44 Darklust, would've been easier and quicker if you just went for dumb string processing methods :p Sep 28 13:47:56 indexOf and substring and such Sep 28 13:48:17 I realized that after the fact ;0; but I feel like I learned something so it's not all bad Sep 28 13:48:28 cool Sep 28 13:49:01 do I need to run a fragment transaction on the UI thread or that will be done automatically? Sep 28 13:49:22 I still dont get it Sep 28 13:49:26 what is wrong Sep 28 13:49:31 makes me crazy Sep 28 13:49:46 did you google and follow tutorials already? Sep 28 13:50:10 No one is bitter, I just want people’s questions not to be met with a “wow, you’re an idiot, google that” Sep 28 13:50:40 so you want to control people into doing what you want them to do? :p Sep 28 13:52:15 Nope, that’s just basic welcoming community stuff Sep 28 13:52:55 ravilov, yes. but what Im doing is different. I want the sharedpreferences If the intent is empty Sep 28 13:53:02 well... like I said, keep doing what you're doing, maybe you'll make it Sep 28 13:53:02 If I was a newbie (and I’m not) - I wouldn’t stay in this community/channel Sep 28 13:53:12 Make it? Sep 28 13:53:21 I’ve already made it … Sep 28 13:53:29 I’m here to help the newbs! Sep 28 13:53:31 colabug, can you please help me? Sep 28 13:53:34 colabug, yes, and quite frankly, I don't think people would be sorry you left Sep 28 13:53:46 Wow, how’s that for a welcoming community Sep 28 13:53:57 nobody said this is a welcoming community Sep 28 13:54:17 it's a tech comunnity with a purpose Sep 28 13:54:58 colabug, this is my main.java : http://pastebin.com/QGRAK7uE and this is my second activiy : http://pastebin.com/x8trwH9d Sep 28 13:56:19 ravilov, Ive been a ubuntu-helper on #ubuntu and #ubuntu-se f�r seven years. I usually tell people to google but when they have still difficulties I help them with pleasure. and Believe me we get much more questions. beein not helpfull push users away and that's what we try to avoid Sep 28 13:56:19 peyam, I could easily do the entire code for you, it's really not that complicated... but that way you would learn nothing, whereas if you do it right you will learn about android AND you will learn how to search for what you need Sep 28 13:56:48 It seems all my AsyncTasks are in "wait" state, how so I finish them? I call onPostExecute, i thought that would finish them. Sep 28 13:57:12 troned, you're not supposed to call event callbacks on your own Sep 28 13:57:12 Never call AsyncTask methods manually D: Sep 28 13:57:19 peyam, what is the goal you’re trying to accomplish? (Not the coding goal, the actual business requirement) Sep 28 13:58:01 pretty clearly, he's trying to prefill an onscreen form with values either from intent or, failing that, from sharedprefs Sep 28 13:59:02 peyam, that is very nice and I admire you guys for that, however like it or not, this is generally not how this channel works Sep 28 13:59:07 colabug, this is the thing: i should be able to make a page like the Main. i click on the button and it should save the values , it should show the second activity. next time if I click on the button in the Main, it should show the previuse values in the second activity Sep 28 13:59:56 when i just close the first activity. not shutit down Sep 28 14:00:10 sounds like you need to read and do the tutorials. Sep 28 14:00:54 So people literally just sit here all day and troll people asking questions? ;) Sep 28 14:00:56 Is that fun? Sep 28 14:01:12 and understand the activity life cycle. outlining your desire, not knowing how android works, isn't asking for help. it's asking someone to do the lot :) Sep 28 14:01:36 I have all classes in eclipse, but when I launch my app I see "noclassdeffound" Sep 28 14:01:38 yes. I did this yestarday and the emulator didnt work on my laptop. now im on my desktop. now when I dont have device, I use the mulator and the app doesnt work the way I want it Sep 28 14:01:43 clean, build again doesnt help Sep 28 14:02:04 he isn't asking a q. hes outlining a want. Sep 28 14:02:12 rgr|android, the onpause is correct. Sep 28 14:02:36 There’s this whole curse of knowledge dynamic going on here - once you’ve achieved something it seems trivial and obvious - but you had to struggle to get there. You’ve just forgotten the struggle. Sep 28 14:02:53 I teach Android development (and code apps) - so I see first hand where peopel stuggle Sep 28 14:02:57 Basically with everything! Sep 28 14:03:04 Even when following tutorials Sep 28 14:03:27 I dont call onPostExecute manually, I meant it gets called. Sep 28 14:03:29 the general attitude here is, this channel is not here to solve that problem Sep 28 14:03:32 colabug, sorry but it was to me right? Sep 28 14:03:46 peyam - I’m taking a look at your code Sep 28 14:04:28 i dont need that onpause. it should save the preferences when clicking on the buton Sep 28 14:04:31 ravilov - Then what/where is the place newbies should goi? Sep 28 14:04:31 troned, then it might depend on what you do in onPostExecute Sep 28 14:04:36 colabug, google Sep 28 14:04:43 LOL Sep 28 14:04:50 I don't know of an IRC channel suitable for noobs Sep 28 14:05:07 and I'm not surprised, given the humongous and vast amount of already available resources Sep 28 14:05:20 That’s part of the problem - SO MANY RESOURCES Sep 28 14:05:24 if you want to become a good and successful android developer, you should be able to at least follow a simple tutorial Sep 28 14:05:41 and you should be able to do searches Sep 28 14:05:42 There are IRC channels that exist that are welcoming places for newbies Sep 28 14:05:44 ravilov, simple is subjective Sep 28 14:05:48 ^^ Sep 28 14:05:57 +1 Sep 28 14:06:10 peyam, if what you're following is not simple for you, then you might have picked one that is above your level Sep 28 14:06:40 ravilov, I do a fragment transaction. I understand that is not really ideal and should be refactored, maybe that will solve the problem. Sep 28 14:07:17 ravilov, well everything is simple when you know how to do. I donno how you react if you math teacher told you" if you dont get it, it's nothing for you" Sep 28 14:07:47 troned, you might want to try posting a runnable to the main thread to do that, I'm not saying that will help (I've never worked with fragments) but it doesn't hurt to try Sep 28 14:08:08 you mean skipping the AscynTask? Sep 28 14:08:24 I meant posting a runnable from onPostExecute Sep 28 14:09:32 peyam, basic math in school is in fact *meant* so the vast majority of people can easily understand if only they try (which most kids don't want to, but that's a different matter); if you're indeed incapable of understanding that basic level of math, then you might really need special assistance outside of normal education process Sep 28 14:11:06 ravilov, and you dont hing you are beein unreasonable and extrem? Sep 28 14:11:17 no, not really Sep 28 14:11:32 trust me, I know this is how it works, because I am personally involved in such a case Sep 28 14:11:48 peyam - I’m not seeing where you associate the Bundle with the Intent Sep 28 14:12:02 colabug, im not allowed to use bundle Sep 28 14:12:05 :( Sep 28 14:12:16 Why? Sep 28 14:12:22 my teacher :( Sep 28 14:12:32 Ah Sep 28 14:12:34 peyam, er... this is where docs would come in handy - Intent.getExtras() *is* a Bundle Sep 28 14:12:56 really? Sep 28 14:13:06 ahh Sep 28 14:13:20 Are you using an IDE like Android Studio or IntelliJ? (or *shudder* Eclipse) Sep 28 14:13:27 Studio Sep 28 14:13:55 http://developer.android.com/guide/index.html will (or is supposed to) become your new best friend Sep 28 14:13:56 I like to debug and figure out what all the data bits are when I run into problems like this Sep 28 14:14:21 Here’s a good debugging article: https://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/studio-debug.html Sep 28 14:14:40 I breakpoint all the things Sep 28 14:15:30 colabug, The sunny thing i never had to debug anything. never made a bad program. hahaha i dont even know how to use it Sep 28 14:15:34 also just googling "android intent" would link you directly to the official API docs for Intent Sep 28 14:15:48 s/a bad/a/ Sep 28 14:15:48 peyam, the debugger will be your new best friend :) Sep 28 14:16:05 thanks colabug and ravilov Sep 28 14:16:11 Heh, I got that sed joke Sep 28 14:16:13 No problem Sep 28 14:16:19 It was a rude sed joke Sep 28 14:16:21 You're a dick ravilov :p Sep 28 14:16:24 Darklust, of course you did now ;) Sep 28 14:19:19 has anyone here tried Login With Amazon? Sep 28 14:22:34 hi Sep 28 14:23:34 Hola Sep 28 14:24:24 one more question. Do I need permission for using Action_dial? Sep 28 14:25:56 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/Intent.html#ACTION_DIAL Sep 28 14:26:00 (again, google) Sep 28 14:26:10 I'm not sure but I would say no, you don't need extra perms Sep 28 14:26:51 colabug, and yes sitting here and telling people to google stuff is hard work, that's why a lot of people in here have already considered building a bot to do this for them ;) Sep 28 14:27:27 (no joke) Sep 28 14:27:40 hi - i need some help regarding a wifi p2p application Sep 28 14:27:43 If you needed a permission and didn’t include it, the logcat would tell you Sep 28 14:28:03 Cause it would be a runtime error Sep 28 14:28:33 can anybody tell me, why i cant ping between 2 devices, after i established a wifi direct connection? Sep 28 14:28:37 That’s sad that people are so lazy with their trolling that they want to build abot to do it for them Sep 28 14:28:45 even if i use the stock android function Sep 28 14:28:59 * colabug hasn’t touched Wifi Direct Sep 28 14:29:21 * peyam I would love to know how itworks. seems so smart Sep 28 14:30:21 colabug, you really sound like a perfect helpdesk employee; however you have to understand this channel is *not* a helpdesk and has no intention of ever becoming one Sep 28 14:31:30 ravilov, can you cutt it out? Sep 28 14:31:47 why do you waste your energy argueing? Sep 28 14:32:06 trolls feed on other people’s energy Sep 28 14:32:17 The worse they make people feel Sep 28 14:32:21 the better they feel Sep 28 14:32:36 colabug, also, you looking down on the people or this channel will definitely not bring any change Sep 28 14:32:54 oh im sorry if im in the wrong channel for dev help ^^ Sep 28 14:32:59 I’m the one looking down on people? That’s an interesting perspective, ravilov Sep 28 14:33:11 well you just called me a troll... Sep 28 14:33:22 Karatektus, LOL Sep 28 14:33:36 You called me a help desk employee Sep 28 14:33:40 Which has no basis Sep 28 14:33:43 nope, I didn't Sep 28 14:33:46 And was meant solely to talk down to me Sep 28 14:33:46 colabug, that funny? ^^ Sep 28 14:34:33 colabug, dude... you have some serious attitude adjustmets to do; 1) I never called you anything you claim I did, 2) since when is being a helpdesk employee a bad thing and should be looked down on? Sep 28 14:34:34 Not funny @Karatektus. That’s what the recent argument has been about! This *is* the place for dev help Sep 28 14:34:47 “colabug, you really sound like a perfect helpdesk employee; however you have to understand this channel is *not* a helpdesk and has no intention of ever becoming one” Sep 28 14:34:55 yes, you *sound* like it Sep 28 14:34:56 keyword Sep 28 14:35:08 ravilov - why is is bad to help people? I don’t get it. Sep 28 14:35:18 colabug, yea i thought so. but ravilov seems to think otherwise Sep 28 14:35:42 Karatektus Yeah Sep 28 14:35:51 hahaha Sep 28 14:35:53 it's really funny when people start thinking I am the only one to think a certain thing just because I happen to voice it Sep 28 14:36:04 ravilov, you're funny Sep 28 14:36:08 peyam, ok Sep 28 14:36:16 "you *sound* like it " Sep 28 14:36:38 ravilov, no offense. but where else should ppl go to get help if not to this channel? Sep 28 14:36:52 In this case, ravilov, you policied new people asking questions and those trying to help answer those questions. Sep 28 14:37:27 Karatektus, who's to say there actually *is* an IRC channel for noobs? who's to say there is a need for one? however if there *is* a need for one, you can always open a new one (and it eventually be included in the official docs) Sep 28 14:37:46 Karatektus, his previous answer was “google” Sep 28 14:38:04 ravilov. since when are we talking about noobs? Sep 28 14:38:20 colabug, LOL :D i tried that. Sep 28 14:38:29 while this channel's name is in fact in the official docs, there is a reason it's not the *first* on the list Sep 28 14:38:53 I’m still a newb to mapping, bluetooth, other platform features … Sep 28 14:39:06 Even experienced devs have basic questions when dealing with a new plaftorm feature Sep 28 14:39:15 Karatektus, we were previously, and while you didn't mention it specifically I assumed you're talking about it too; also your original question (about wifi direct) was perfectly valid for this channel and I don't see why you found yourself attacked Sep 28 14:39:32 colabug, yeah and wifi direct is not exactly new... but somewhat of a niche :P Sep 28 14:39:34 colabug, perfectly true, and for those issues there are other places to help resolve it Sep 28 14:40:00 there is a time and place for everything Sep 28 14:40:05 and it is not necessarily this channel ;) Sep 28 14:40:39 ravilov, ah ok i just joined and thought you meant me Sep 28 14:40:48 ravilov Why do you care so much about people asking questions? If you don’t want to answer, don’t. Sep 28 14:41:08 colabug, why do you care about me caring? if you don't like what I'm saying, ignore me Sep 28 14:41:20 none of that will change the facts, though Sep 28 14:41:48 ravilov I care about your reaction to me and others in the room. I generally care about open and welcoming communities. Sep 28 14:42:01 my android avd are stuck at the logo when i start it. I restarted eclipse and ran it and it's been stuck for 23 min now. I think i recall it happening before but after rebooting the system the avd worked again. Does anyone know a trick to fix this without rebooting? Sep 28 14:42:02 I already want to leave this channel and write it off forever Sep 28 14:42:07 that's ok Sep 28 14:42:08 I don’t see how it can be helpful to people Sep 28 14:42:27 I don’t get the point of this channel Sep 28 14:42:32 If not to help each other Sep 28 14:42:58 jesperj, I use genymotion instead of the emulator Sep 28 14:43:00 you'd be surprised, as you will find out if you stick around long enough; however you have to understand this channel has a purpose, and the purpose is not to act as a general android helpdesk Sep 28 14:43:09 you have to utilize your resources appropriately Sep 28 14:43:14 colabug: sometimes one can get a bit arrogant replies but people have been really helpful also... Sep 28 14:44:01 so the point is that colabug is answering general android questions like... how can i root my device? Sep 28 14:44:12 ... Sep 28 14:44:15 Nope, I answered two programming questions Sep 28 14:44:23 hm then i dont get it ^^ Sep 28 14:44:30 that's okay too Sep 28 14:45:05 They were apparently too basic of questions - and the response given to the OPs was goole that or loock at the android docs Sep 28 14:45:15 *google Sep 28 14:45:16 (how to root a device is by far not a general question, like miles away from it) Sep 28 14:45:17 *look Sep 28 14:45:50 yeah but it can be very easily looked up. and has nothing to do with development Sep 28 14:46:01 colabug, you will learn this happens a lot in here and there is no reason it wouldn't; if you don't like that, you probably won't enjoy it in here Sep 28 14:46:12 Sounds like few would enjoy it in here Sep 28 14:46:15 again, not making things up or forcing some rules, just speaking of things as they are Sep 28 14:46:44 ravilov, do you know how I fix this? Sep 28 14:46:53 peyam, what is your most recent issue? Sep 28 14:47:00 the same Sep 28 14:47:05 shareP... Sep 28 14:47:10 um Sep 28 14:47:12 then yes, I do Sep 28 14:47:13 whatever. I',m still looking for some wifi direct help. anybody used it yet? Sep 28 14:47:35 Karatektus, while your question is perfectly valid, I know nothing on that so can't really pitch in, sorry Sep 28 14:47:48 ravilov, wana help? Sep 28 14:48:02 yeah somehow hoping for one of the other 368 ppl here ^^ Sep 28 14:48:18 @peyam - Have you tried debugging and inspecting the values? Sep 28 14:48:31 peyam, I'm not a very good teacher, I don't transfer knowledge to others well, the only way I could help is if I write your code for you, and then you would learn nothing (or not nearly as much) Sep 28 14:48:42 Hi JakeWharton: in u2020, how to reload GalleryView? Sep 28 14:48:59 ravilov, ofcourse I will. I wana make my own apps. Sep 28 14:49:11 colabug, I dont know how to use debugger :( Sep 28 14:49:54 you really have to learn to utilize your resources :/ Sep 28 14:50:09 holding one's hand through a process is not always the best approach Sep 28 14:50:34 peyam - Great time to learn. :) Seriously, it’s so great. You can also plugin “watches” which are code snippets that return a value or use it to watch the value of a variable Sep 28 14:50:38 some of my coworkers like to say - the sooner you're dropped into a fire, the sooner you'll be out Sep 28 14:50:46 not quite sure what it means but seemed appropriate Sep 28 14:51:19 colabug, in Studio? Sep 28 14:51:26 every IDE has a debugger Sep 28 14:51:39 and they can all do that Sep 28 14:51:44 Yeah, https://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/studio-debug.html Sep 28 14:52:01 Check out the section “work with breakpoints” Sep 28 14:52:18 Also the top section Sep 28 14:52:38 Command lines even have debuggers - but they aren’t any fun Sep 28 14:54:20 I debugged it nd now it doesnt work at all Sep 28 14:54:21 hahaha Sep 28 14:54:31 what is the best way to get the size of a file on the external storage? Sep 28 14:54:58 WARNING: linker: libdvm.so has text relocations. This is wasting memory and is a security risk. Please fix. Sep 28 14:55:01 I can execute something like "adb shell "ls -l /sdcard/meital_video_recorder.mp4" | awk '{ print $4 }'" but I was wondering if there is a better way Sep 28 14:56:22 meital, programmatically, use File with .length() on it Sep 28 14:56:28 not the best maybe, but works Sep 28 14:56:34 great, thanks! Sep 28 14:56:49 WTF.. it not working at all now Sep 28 14:59:06 So would it be rude of your app to keep running a thread if the user has pressed the home button? Sep 28 14:59:29 is it better app ethics to terminate the thread and start a new one when the app is resumed? Sep 28 14:59:33 meital, don't ever resort to shell commands! Sep 28 14:59:44 @peyam - I haven’t seen that error, perhaps stackoverflow has a lead? Sep 28 14:59:47 wait, or are you asking how to get it from shell and not from code? Sep 28 14:59:53 troned, depends on what you are doing Sep 28 14:59:57 ravilov: from the code Sep 28 15:00:18 adq's way is working Sep 28 15:00:32 Karatektus, it will not be doing anything, just running an empty loop since I set a variable that heeps it from running the normal game code Sep 28 15:01:31 ahm. thats kinda weird, isn't it? Sep 28 15:01:58 troned, in this case i would stop it of course Sep 28 15:03:12 hi :), is it possible connect two android device with BLE? Sep 28 15:05:00 what is ble? Sep 28 15:06:53 bluetooth low energy i think Sep 28 15:08:46 MyWay, TI website has nice into for that Sep 28 15:09:38 *intro Sep 28 15:11:19 meital, (new FileInputStream("/path/to/file")).getChannel().size() is at least one way I know of Sep 28 15:11:56 of course it would be better to assign the new FileInputStream to a var so you could close it Sep 28 15:12:26 ravilov: thanks Sep 28 15:17:26 ah jeez it got ip addresses on both devices but they can not ping each other... i dont really get it Sep 28 15:18:56 are they at least in the same subnet? Sep 28 15:19:10 yeah sure Sep 28 15:20:18 well it either is or isn't Sep 28 15:20:24 are or aren't* Sep 28 15:21:35 192.168.49.183/24 on one device and .1/24 on the other device Sep 28 15:21:56 you got a .1? that's unusual Sep 28 15:22:06 hm? no it isnt Sep 28 15:22:18 one device acts as AP in a wifi direct connection Sep 28 15:22:25 oh Sep 28 15:22:37 ugh, is there any way to flag an app/activity as ineligible for chromecast mirroring? Sep 28 15:22:38 well that would be where my lack of knowledge of wifi direct comes into play ;) Sep 28 15:22:55 pfn, pm disable :p Sep 28 15:23:01 seems so :D Sep 28 15:23:52 it is just weird since i am able to ping my normal local ip Sep 28 15:23:55 ravilov, uh, what would you disable... Sep 28 15:24:05 the whole activity :) Sep 28 15:24:07 (it was a joke) Sep 28 15:24:11 I mean the whole app Sep 28 15:24:13 that's stupid Sep 28 15:24:18 Indeed Sep 28 15:24:31 meaning, I don't know, sorry Sep 28 15:25:32 is "wifi direct" the same thing as "wifi p2p"? Sep 28 15:25:53 ravilov, yep Sep 28 15:26:15 ha, no wonder I know nothing about it - I don't deal with android 4.0+ ;) Sep 28 15:26:19 Karatektus, tried this? http://www.androidside.com/docs/resources/samples/WiFiDirectDemo/index.html Sep 28 15:26:32 thats actually the app i am using Sep 28 15:26:43 I see Sep 28 15:26:53 but even without this its not working Sep 28 15:27:22 idk if the image stuff works and i really dont care. i just need a ping ^^ Sep 28 15:27:32 <_CalLightman_> Hi, can someone help e understand the sequence in which touch events are handled. I am trying to implement gesture detection(fling) on rows of expandable list , each of which is a custom view. Sep 28 15:27:39 well like I said, I had very little contact with 4.0+ so no idea Sep 28 15:28:29 _CalLightman_, generally (and simplified) ACTION_DOWN -> ACTION_MOVE -> ACTION_UP, but there are lots of caveats, not the least of which is multitouch Sep 28 15:28:43 why don't you just use the gesturedetector that's built into android API? Sep 28 15:29:24 <_CalLightman_> ravilov, I am trying to do that but am unable to implement expand/collapse of groups as well as swipe detection on it simultaneously Sep 28 15:29:56 <_CalLightman_> could you help me out with that Sep 28 15:30:13 <_CalLightman_> I will share the code on pastebin Sep 28 15:30:13 you initialize the GD and let it do any initial processing on every onTouchEvent(), if it returns false there was no gesture and you can process any other events Sep 28 15:30:45 first of all, are you trying to implement actual gestures, or just scroll events? Sep 28 15:31:10 <_CalLightman_> no i just want the swipe gesture so that i can show option to delete Sep 28 15:31:26 ah Sep 28 15:32:10 hi Sep 28 15:32:20