**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 26 02:59:59 2015 Jan 26 03:18:10 tez, interesting idea, maybe remote views can solve your problem Jan 26 03:18:20 otherwise, no Jan 26 03:29:45 JesusFreke i wish i /could/ rarely touch UI code (but somebody has too :( ) Jan 26 03:32:07 g00s: you know what you need, right? Jan 26 03:32:17 A UIWriterPersonFactory, obviously! Jan 26 03:33:01 i'd rather just romainguy.clone() Jan 26 03:33:29 I don't think romainguy writes UI though. He writes what you build a UI with :D Jan 26 03:34:22 i have no idea what he's doing anymore Jan 26 03:34:24 heh Jan 26 03:34:35 yeah, I don't know what he's doing now Jan 26 03:35:18 Can anyone point me to some decent resources/documentation about configuring Gradle builds? Especially about running an external command in the preBuild task Jan 26 03:35:24 if JakeWharton had a rabbit http://digg.com/video/i-built-my-rabbit-a-cart-and-now-he-delivers-me-beer Jan 26 03:35:51 Does google maps not work on the debug keystore? Jan 26 03:36:46 MikeClassic oh yeah, its not on d.android.com yet huh Jan 26 03:36:57 would have thought 1.0.0 meant official docs :) Jan 26 03:37:13 oh well, beside whats on tools.android.com you could try this new video https://thenewcircle.com/s/post/1695/dive_into_the_gradle_based_android_build_system_hans_dockter_xavier_ducrohet_video Jan 26 03:37:18 they do have some documentation Jan 26 03:37:23 ok i'll check that out Jan 26 03:38:03 thanks :) Jan 26 03:45:20 look at the normal Gradle docs Jan 26 03:45:33 not anything about Android Jan 26 03:47:08 I'm starting to love Gradle. So simple and powerful. Jan 26 03:49:15 i love it too when i dont have to think about it :) Jan 26 05:00:16 I'm trying to use styles.xml to create a custom button style that only changes the button's background (as a test). I have tried , but the button loses all system default styling (font, height, border, etc) when I use it. What am I doing wrong? Jan 26 05:01:19 duncannz: sounds correct.. your parenting to the default button widget and not the Holo or Material theme ones Jan 26 05:01:40 duncannz: parent="@android:style/Widget.Holo.Button" Jan 26 05:02:45 duncannz: that'll restore font and a few other properties.. the padding and border are supplied by the properties of the 9-patch background so if you want a padding add it to your style and if you want a border add it to your background Jan 26 05:02:53 @android:style/Widget.Holo.Button requires API level 11 (current min is 10) Jan 26 05:03:31 duncannz: yes, parent it to a base style and add a base style in your values-v11 res directory Jan 26 05:03:40 duncannz: either that or use Widget.Button Jan 26 05:03:56 dnc: Why are you using minSdkVersion=10? Jan 26 05:04:02 so is there no way to simply change the background of a button from a style? Jan 26 05:04:07 TacticalJoke: to support more devices? Jan 26 05:04:37 duncannz: there is not much use supporting less than v4 (APIv15) now Jan 26 05:04:50 ICS Jan 26 05:04:53 Yeah, you're just wasting your time trying to support them. Jan 26 05:05:10 Napalm: 10% of devices run gingerbread Jan 26 05:05:12 I'm a little masochistic - I'm aiming to support v9 with my side project :| Jan 26 05:05:26 duncannz: thats what your doing.. you are just changing the background.. but the background is a 9-patch so it supplies the other properties Jan 26 05:05:35 duncannz: read what i said above Jan 26 05:05:37 lol, no matter what targetSdk you use, its headache :) Jan 26 05:05:38 duncannz: And that number will drop and drop. Jan 26 05:05:58 g00s: true, but hopefully to a lesser degree Jan 26 05:06:10 TacticalJoke: some devices being sold today are running it Jan 26 05:06:16 You can have a big headache (15/16+) or an enormous headache (<15). Jan 26 05:06:18 whats up Napalm Jan 26 05:06:19 :D Jan 26 05:06:39 for btle i'm using minSdk=19 :D Jan 26 05:06:51 duncannz: It's not recommended to go below 15/16 for a new project. Jan 26 05:06:53 But it's your life. Jan 26 05:07:02 * g00s thinks of that bon jovi song Jan 26 05:07:09 just trying to make a backport of the Sensor.TYPE_SIGNIFICANT_MOTION functionality Jan 26 05:07:09 It's now or never! Jan 26 05:07:11 depends on what you're doing :) quite a lot has 3rd-party backports, and a lot of the gingerbread-ers prefer _something_ rather than nothing, so you can degrade some of the fancy stuff and everyone's happy Jan 26 05:07:29 i need to support Gingerbread for this.. and man-o-man is it a pain in the fucking ass Jan 26 05:07:45 if you use api 16 then 1 in 4 users can't download your app.. not worth it to me but each to their own Jan 26 05:08:23 alright thanks for your help Napalm Jan 26 05:08:38 duncannz: nobody said 16 Jan 26 05:09:01 Napalm: duncannz: It's not recommended to go below 15/16 for a new project. Jan 26 05:09:10 anyway I'm not arguing this. cya Jan 26 05:09:13 https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html Jan 26 05:09:22 8% is GB and below Jan 26 05:09:38 fwiw that's only google-play devices. Jan 26 05:09:56 By the time duncannz's app is released, that number will be 7%. :D Jan 26 05:10:51 yea, true... but you do know how many now side-load gapps/play-store plus.. the new Android-One devices.. KitKat and Lollipop.. basically its just not worth it Jan 26 05:11:08 groxx: i am not saying minSdkVersion APIv15 Jan 26 05:11:33 groxx: i am saying develop to it.. and then lower it and remove advanced functionality Jan 26 05:11:47 groxx: and im only saying that because of AppCompat Jan 26 05:11:59 if your not using AppCompat.. no point Jan 26 05:12:49 plus, on most devices your app will be broken on <=GB because the platform was altered by so many vendors.. CTA was pretty shit back then Jan 26 05:15:30 Ugh. I have a cold. Jan 26 05:15:32 Aching all over. Jan 26 05:15:36 i guess there was another update to the CDD http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/01/25/google-android-compatibility-definitions/ Jan 26 05:15:48 man-flu attack! everyone get down! Jan 26 05:15:57 :) Jan 26 05:16:07 I'll try not to sneeze near the screen. Jan 26 05:16:29 anyone know if I can get viruses through IRC? I heard I can.. LOLZ Jan 26 05:16:30 :| Jan 26 05:16:57 Something must be ridiculously hard about selecting an email address from an address book. Someone did it 3 times and still couldn't select an email address. Jan 26 05:18:13 Does your app spy on their every movement, Agamemnus? Jan 26 05:19:32 hardly Jan 26 05:20:08 it only knows what you had for breakfast lunch and dinner Jan 26 05:20:12 Napalm: yeah, that can make sense. plus a lot of the gingerbread devices are lower power, so fewer fancy touches can be a good thing Jan 26 05:20:13 it doesn't count the snacks Jan 26 05:21:41 TacticalJoke: I'm fighting something off too. probably spread it to you :p Jan 26 05:22:08 good news though! it meant I actually got something done this weekend. Jan 26 05:23:10 groxx Jan 26 05:23:17 you sound like the Professor Jan 26 05:23:20 Agamemnus: I'm just messing. :) Jan 26 05:23:24 groxx TacticalJoke get youselves some zing gluconate and high quality whey protein Jan 26 05:23:38 "GOOD NEWS EVERYBODY, the world is ending! Extended vacation this year!" Jan 26 05:23:51 groxx: Part of the reason I did this stream-parsing thing is that I just can't think. This is me basically wasting time (but with useful consequences). Jan 26 05:24:08 tacticaljoke: but I have a serious face Jan 26 05:25:28 Agamemnus: futurama may have infected my brain at some point, yeah :) Jan 26 05:26:13 The necessity to use streaming can be the sign of a problem: maybe you're getting too much data from the server, consider receiving less that you can display right away and download a bigger payload in the background Jan 26 05:26:15 g00s: is bazinga glutemate the same thing? Jan 26 05:26:28 lol Jan 26 05:26:45 sure groxx , sure Jan 26 05:27:44 g00s: k, I'll try that. TacticalJoke I'll let ya know if it cures me. Jan 26 05:27:46 sounds like something hipsters hate Jan 26 05:27:47 deuteros__: Yeah, this is reddit comments. The API isn't good enough to do that, unfortunately. Jan 26 05:27:48 take 30mg of bazinga and call back in the morning Jan 26 05:27:56 (plus one strip of bacon) Jan 26 05:28:01 Their "load more comments" thing is so lame. Jan 26 05:28:06 TacticalJoke: Sad to hear but understandable, then streaming is a decent solution Jan 26 05:28:51 The memory difference is surprising. Something like 2MB of RAM for a 200-comment listing with DOM parsing. Around 0.3MB with stream-parsing. Jan 26 05:29:06 Yeah not surprised at all Jan 26 05:29:21 I'm surprised by your lack of surprise. :) Jan 26 05:30:05 I have first hand experience on all these scenarios: 1) one big load 2) one big load + streaming 3) one small load and one big load in background Jan 26 05:30:29 streaming code is always more messy but so much faster and better memory wise Jan 26 05:30:44 Yeah, I'm extracting methods as we speak. Jan 26 05:30:50 Turning horribleness into semi-awesomeness. Jan 26 05:32:30 semi-awesomeness is the most we can hope for on android Jan 26 05:32:58 g00s: even with Rx? Jan 26 05:33:23 Can't make up my mind about Rx, so many people seem to fall for it and it's just not clicking for me Jan 26 05:33:43 Who here is convinced Rx is great and could show a convincing example? Jan 26 05:34:05 Hey everyone please join #android-os Jan 26 05:34:10 An open channel Jan 26 05:34:33 OERIAS: Why? Jan 26 05:35:18 deuteros__, because it is an open channel for custom roms and phones in general Jan 26 05:35:36 OERIAS what if most devs don't care about that, thats why we're in -dev lol Jan 26 05:35:48 Maybe 'dev' stands for 'device'. Jan 26 05:36:15 i think it stands for devil Jan 26 05:36:41 I also thought it stood for devil Jan 26 05:37:10 In seriousness it is Development Jan 26 05:37:37 I actually wonder Jan 26 05:37:39 1) Jan 26 05:38:02 Has anyone bought an international phone and connected it to AT&T's network? Jan 26 05:38:05 Just announcing that is outt there Jan 26 05:38:12 Agamemnus, I have Jan 26 05:38:14 2) Would anyone like to buy an unlocked AT&T Note 4? Jan 26 05:38:21 OERIAS: everything worked? Jan 26 05:38:35 One of my Samsung Galaxy S II international Jan 26 05:38:41 yes it worked Jan 26 05:38:50 I got it in Spain Jan 26 05:38:53 at&t is making things difficult Jan 26 05:38:56 very neat Jan 26 05:39:03 what steps did you use? Jan 26 05:39:07 just at&t's steps Jan 26 05:39:08 well At&t needs to be broken up Jan 26 05:39:10 or something else Jan 26 05:39:19 I just put in a sim and there you go Jan 26 05:39:19 at&t is actually SBC Jan 26 05:39:32 I did have to put in the right apns Jan 26 05:39:42 i see Jan 26 05:39:42 yes it is Jan 26 05:39:54 maybe this is a discussion for #android-os :) Jan 26 05:39:54 But it still needs to be broken up :S Jan 26 05:40:08 freeeeeedom Jan 26 05:40:09 OERIAS you have your first victim ! Jan 26 05:40:15 At&t needs to be broken up like the nor so united states Jan 26 05:40:22 Agamemnus, you are welcome to join Jan 26 05:40:36 we do talk about Android unlike #android Jan 26 05:40:55 #android at times gets fights and the lack of mods is an example of this Jan 26 05:41:25 actually i am not the first victim Jan 26 05:41:42 maybe the 15th or so Jan 26 05:44:33 Yes but it is a free channel Jan 26 05:45:28 What does that even mean, a free channel? Jan 26 05:45:44 no in-channel-payments Jan 26 05:45:50 but maybe advertisements Jan 26 05:46:20 I didn't know there were irc channels you can join without having to pay Jan 26 05:47:21 everyone in android-dev pays Jan 26 05:47:26 in time and sanity :D Jan 26 05:47:32 deuteros__, free in opinion and thought Jan 26 05:47:37 unlike #android Jan 26 05:47:47 or #android-offtopic Jan 26 05:47:58 eugene over there is racist. Jan 26 05:50:27 * deuteros__ shrugs Jan 26 06:04:42 I think this is more of a dev question - Question: What stops me replacing the android manifest of an apk to the same as some verizon bloatware and overwriting it? Jan 26 06:05:02 crypto something something? Jan 26 06:13:00 hello, could you help me please? can i use android_npapi ndk library in my application project? ( not pdk develop) Jan 26 06:14:15 NPAPI is being phased out Jan 26 06:14:48 The Google Gods regard it with slanted eye Jan 26 06:17:04 Does anyone here work for Google? Jan 26 06:17:12 Speak now or forever hold your peace Jan 26 06:17:20 i hope use just in my application (my application use webview) Jan 26 06:17:36 Levite: yes there are a few Jan 26 06:18:00 I figured. Tell me, how do you sleep at night? Jan 26 06:18:19 Pretty good, you? Jan 26 06:18:26 I close my eyes. Works well. Jan 26 06:18:47 My dog tends to want to go out at 4am though, always wakes me up Jan 26 06:18:51 On top of a pile of money, with many beautiful ladies Jan 26 06:20:40 Google is like the New York Yankees Jan 26 06:21:06 You can love them and hate them at once Jan 26 06:22:41 Can I have different configs based off of gradle buildTypes alone? Or do i really need to use flavors to toggle over? Jan 26 06:23:56 they're basically the same thing Jan 26 06:24:09 build types can be a bit interesting because you control things like the debuggable flag Jan 26 06:25:04 all i want to do is toggle some consts over between my dev/integration/prod envs Jan 26 06:25:21 I'm looking for RxJava examples involving sending each element from an obvservable of to an API request and observing the results Jan 26 06:25:39 i found a vid where a guy uses flavors for that, but to me it seems more useful for feature sets more-so than environments Jan 26 06:25:43 Flatmap is said to combine into a new observable. I can just chain in this method, right? Jan 26 06:25:54 vintz_: i don't use flavors at all Jan 26 06:25:56 knapper_tech: yes Jan 26 06:26:10 vintz_: we just have the normal two build types and then add a 'dogfood' type for internal releases Jan 26 06:26:17 JakeWharton, will map not create a new observable? Jan 26 06:26:33 every operator creates a new observable, technically Jan 26 06:26:58 flatMap is just map except that you return an observable which gets folded into the original Jan 26 06:27:21 so map can be chained as well? Jan 26 06:27:43 yes Jan 26 06:27:46 might need to look at the API types. Jan 26 06:27:57 how do you save a config to a certain buildType vs another buildType though? so that request urls point against diff servers for example? Jan 26 06:29:03 vintz_: our release buildType just hard codes it as a string. the debug buildType uses an override (via dependency injection) to allow us to change the endpoint dynamically Jan 26 06:29:06 JakeWharton, how might I support cancellable results? Jan 26 06:29:14 knapper_tech: observables can be unsubscribed from Jan 26 06:33:36 cool thanks. that helps a lot! :) Jan 26 06:34:21 JakeWharton, a stream of API calls where some will be cancelled. Jan 26 06:34:35 yes, unsubscribe goes upwards Jan 26 06:40:42 i know what google haven't support about npapi more. but i hope use android npapi ndk library. can i use android npapi library in my webview application? Jan 26 06:44:37 it's a dead end. find an alternative Jan 26 06:47:47 Levite, like ppnpi? Jan 26 06:48:15 ppnpi -> ppapi Jan 26 06:49:09 plugins are verbotoen Jan 26 06:49:18 find a native solution Jan 26 06:49:52 for the greater good Jan 26 06:49:57 (chorus) for the greater good Jan 26 06:55:42 thank you for advise Jan 26 07:24:14 I've got an AS project imported from Eclipse that seems to keep losing the Android library. There is no option in project structure under the "app" module Jan 26 07:25:05 nm, reset jdk to 7 and gradle sync looks hot Jan 26 07:25:30 ie sexy. never have i seen large toolchains that "just worked" to such a degree. Jan 26 07:28:24 Ah, AS is using its own Android libs for working projects but a system one for the broken one Jan 26 07:36:47 I am getting a runtime exception when creating a custom notification using RemoteViews Jan 26 07:36:48 bad array lengths Jan 26 07:36:51 any thoughts? Jan 26 07:37:18 rgr: defaq? Jan 26 07:37:29 your client is off the hook Jan 26 07:55:18 Awful quiet ... ... ... aha, g00s is out :p Jan 26 07:55:33 :D Jan 26 07:55:36 capella: !!! Jan 26 07:55:49 it's only rgr's client Jan 26 07:55:53 that is messing me up Jan 26 08:18:48 how convenient would be to create a workspace with eclipse, develop with ionic html/css framework and compile it with ecilse after finishing it? or should i use cordova? Jan 26 08:24:30 someone kick rgr|android Jan 26 08:24:42 ban* Jan 26 08:26:09 If I wanted to output color patterns to the screen of an Android phone; which technique would give me the highest framerate? NDK/C++ + OpenGL? What max framerate could I expect if I only wanted to output a "white screen", "black screen", "white screen", "black screen" pattern repeatedly? Jan 26 08:30:45 This may be outside the realm of android dev but it applies equally to Android and PHP soo.. any idea why `new SimpleDateFormat("hh:MM a").format(timestamp)` in Android gives 12:09 am, but `date("h:i a", $timestamp)` in php gives 12:46 pm? I have verified that the timestamp in each is exactly the same (apart from the php one being divided by 1000 because it uses second not millisecond timestamps) Jan 26 08:32:17 Smells like a timezone difference issue across Android and your webserver Jan 26 08:32:41 ok I made the timezones the same, now the PHP shows 12:46 am Jan 26 08:32:50 and Android shows 12:09 am Jan 26 08:39:52 thank you! Jan 26 08:40:12 NP :) Jan 26 08:41:38 +1 Jan 26 08:43:44 ACcording to www.epochconverter.com, PHP is right and android is wrong. maybe that's just because epochconverter.com is running PHP ;) Jan 26 08:45:07 anyone know where "Formatter Control" is in AS https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/help/code-style.html#d1783554e298 Jan 26 08:45:27 i'm trying to use //@formatter:on / off but i think i need to set something in the GUI Jan 26 08:47:38 aha, its in Code Style -> general, not Java Jan 26 08:55:48 adq, I've changed the manifest, but I can't get the permission from package manager yet Jan 26 09:21:35 JakeWharton, know any good open source apps in the 5k lines range using Rx? Jan 26 10:02:35 If I wanted to output color patterns to the screen of an Android phone; which technique would give me the highest framerate? NDK/C++ + OpenGL? What max framerate could I expect if I only wanted to output a "white screen", "black screen", "white screen", "black screen" pattern repeatedly? Jan 26 10:03:03 DisplayMessageActivity.class <——— this is instance of class? Jan 26 10:03:40 like new construtor(); Jan 26 10:03:44 right? Jan 26 10:04:00 It's not an instance, it is the file containing the bytecode for the class Jan 26 10:04:30 what is bytecode? Jan 26 10:04:36 skfax: Jan 26 10:05:01 It is the compiled form of your code, what the Java virtual machine executes Jan 26 10:05:21 oh great Jan 26 10:05:24 where are you from? Jan 26 10:05:36 skfax, my guess would be almost certainly NDK opengl Jan 26 10:06:07 and I'd guess your framerate would depend on 2d fill rate of the device Jan 26 10:06:55 does anyone of you knows a good open source, self hosted, mobile analytics solution ? Jan 26 10:07:29 Hi all. I know this is the android irc, but anybody here also on the iphonedev channel as well? I can't seem to access it anymore. It's been a few months since I've last logged in. Not sure why I can't log in anymore. I get a message about being banned when I try. However, that happens when I use a new account as well. Jan 26 10:08:16 Phlow: Thanks. I've seen games doing 60 fps on Android devices. I was just curious what one might achieve for very simple images. I'll probably have to write a small demo so I can measure it on my device Jan 26 10:08:20 i have one slow machine running on winxp and cool android device, i want to create and build helloworld app on xp machine and debug/run on android device, tell how, what tools i will need to install on my machine to do this with minimum requirements? android studio or eclipse? Jan 26 10:10:22 valder, your method of access is banned, they have a ban on *!*@gateway/web/* Jan 26 10:10:28 use a real irc client Jan 26 10:12:28 Is it a good idea to store a whole bunch of database sets to a singleton pattern in android if the memory load is not that high? For example: ive a list with 100 product groups which stores 1000 products each (name, id, an identifier to a ressource). And i dont want to query the database everytime because it would be a few hundret querys a minute Jan 26 10:13:13 DisplayMessageActivity.class <——The Class of the app component to which the system should deliver the Intent : why they say it Class? skfax Jan 26 10:14:02 Phlow: thanks for that. now ti seems my real client isn't connecting. I've installed a new router/network setup in my house. Perhaps that's why the client's aren't connecting. Is there information you can direct me to where I can find a way to fix this? I can't connect to this room either using a real client. I've installed Collolquy and LimeChat Jan 26 10:15:09 misterli, 100k entries x size of entry, does that sound like a lot of data to you? Jan 26 10:15:45 AirStar: When referencing "DisplayMessageActivity.class" in Java code, you are referencing the Class class instance of the given class. http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/api/java/lang/Class.html This is not an instance of the actual class. Jan 26 10:16:08 thanks skfax Jan 26 10:16:45 :) Jan 26 10:16:52 valder, typical irc port is 6667, make sure it's open/forwarded and any firewall on your system has it open Jan 26 10:19:13 Phlow, yes, it does Jan 26 10:20:34 how many chars in the typical name, and typical resource id? Jan 26 10:20:57 100k entries and each of them contains an object which holds about data which have about 800 bytes. (without a pointer to the resource id) Jan 26 10:21:15 Which means the singleton object may store up to 800 kb to 1 mb Jan 26 10:21:37 about 80 megs Jan 26 10:22:44 whops, okay. far too much to store it into an object Jan 26 10:23:12 think so? Jan 26 10:23:16 Of course, yes Jan 26 10:23:25 memory footprint of my facebook app says... 172MB Jan 26 10:23:55 Sure. But searching in an object which have 80mb of data may take ages. searching in a database which is 80mb in size should be rather fast Jan 26 10:24:34 sure, if you're getting the benefit of an index, which you won't have in an object graph Jan 26 10:25:13 B-tree will do much better for quick lookups Jan 26 10:25:20 Okay. Thank you Jan 26 10:27:10 A Java class file is a file (with the .class filename extension) containing Java bytecode that can be executed on the Java Virtual Machine (JVM). A Java class file is produced by a Java compiler from Java programming language source files (.java files) containing Java classes. <—— skfax. this is .class? Jan 26 10:27:17 skfax: Jan 26 10:28:11 that's the .class file Jan 26 10:28:29 DisplayMessageActivity.class <—— this is same? Jan 26 10:28:32 Phlow: Jan 26 10:28:43 AirStar: If you are talking about "X.class" within code, you are using the reflection mechanism in Java to reference the class object. If you are talking about "X.class" in the filesystem, you are talking about the compiled bytecode for a Java class Jan 26 10:29:25 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2160788/what-is-a-class-literal-in-java Jan 26 10:29:33 AirStar ^ Jan 26 10:29:42 oh thanks skfax and Phlow Jan 26 10:29:44 :) Jan 26 10:34:00 MyClass.class == new MyClass() ? skfax Jan 26 10:35:46 yes? Jan 26 10:35:50 Phlow: Jan 26 10:36:41 no Jan 26 10:37:33 :( Jan 26 10:37:36 then? Jan 26 10:37:52 Phlow: Jan 26 10:38:13 AirStar, do you know any other languages perhaps? Jan 26 10:38:21 yes Jan 26 10:38:25 such as? Jan 26 10:38:40 c, c++, java, python, php, javascript, objective-c Jan 26 10:38:44 ........ Jan 26 10:38:49 i know many language Jan 26 10:39:06 ok, do you know what rtti is in c++? Jan 26 10:39:19 rtti Jan 26 10:39:20 ? Jan 26 10:39:25 runtime type information Jan 26 10:39:27 i heard it first now Jan 26 10:39:35 no Jan 26 10:39:36 :( Jan 26 10:39:52 what is it? Jan 26 10:41:24 Hello. Jan 26 10:43:30 In js, you can pass a callback function with .emit like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20337832/is-socket-io-emit-callback-appropriate Jan 26 10:43:33 How do you do the same thing in java for android? Jan 26 10:44:35 I want to pass a callback function as parameter. Jan 26 10:45:42 AirStar, think of it as a way to identify the type at runtime Jan 26 10:47:02 runtime: MyClass.class compile time: new MyClass() <——right? Phlow Jan 26 10:48:35 AirStar, erm, no. new MyClass creates a new instance of that type Jan 26 10:48:43 Hi, how can i add an icon to a menu item? Jan 26 10:48:58 i don’t know .class meaning. Jan 26 10:49:02 how can i do? Jan 26 10:50:20 AirStar, start reading about "reflection" and maybe it'll start to make sense Jan 26 10:50:45 what is reflection? Jan 26 10:50:48 Phlow: Jan 26 10:51:57 I came few days ago here, and i was said it was impossible to add an icon to a menu item however i found an app where the menu items have icons, any help would be appreciated Jan 26 10:52:38 hi, has anyone played with googles heirachical state machine? Jan 26 10:52:39 or any other state machines? Jan 26 10:53:41 http://tutorials.jenkov.com/java-reflection/classes.html <—— is it right? Phlow Jan 26 10:54:46 AirStar, that looks promising, start with an overview of what reflection is and why you might want it Jan 26 10:55:05 ok thanks Phlow Jan 26 10:55:08 i will read it Jan 26 11:06:54 Class myObjectClass = MyObject.class; == MyObject myobject = new MyObject(); Jan 26 11:06:59 yes Phlow ? Jan 26 11:07:56 right? Phlow Jan 26 11:08:41 i want it for android app. Jan 26 11:08:44 Phlow: Jan 26 11:09:08 hello room, when generating a release apk, it also generate a unaligned apk.. what does this unaligned means? Thanks Jan 26 11:10:11 johnc--, the apk is actually a zip file. in a zip, the files are randomly located inside the file. aligning puts them in an order Jan 26 11:10:25 its like defragmenting a HDD Jan 26 11:10:34 gives faster access once the apk is installed Jan 26 11:10:54 AirStar, I'm not sure how you're associating those things. They're not equivalent, except to say that you're creating a reference by assignment. Jan 26 11:11:41 yes i want that answer : you're creating a reference by assignment. Jan 26 11:11:47 ok i see Jan 26 11:11:48 thanks Jan 26 11:12:20 thanks danijoo, so unaligned will means differently or randomly arranged files inside an apk's? why do they even make it :P Jan 26 11:12:39 Bazinga http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/location_sharing.png Jan 26 11:12:43 johnc--, because by default if you zip a file, there is no alignment Jan 26 11:12:58 you have to just create it. and after that, the tool "zipalign" does the alignment Jan 26 11:13:19 oh, so i don't need the unaliged one? Jan 26 11:13:47 you can use the unaligned one for developing. (alignment needs time and for a quick debug build you dont need it) Jan 26 11:14:03 but the play store only accepts aligned apks. so you have to do it for a release Jan 26 11:14:18 ok thanks. Jan 26 11:28:03 reflection mechanism is Class myObjectClass = MyObject.class; ? Phlow Jan 26 11:29:02 good morning Jan 26 11:29:24 I'm looking for a solution to do login in facebook using my application Jan 26 11:29:41 I have an Dialog with EditText email/password Jan 26 11:29:58 i have a class with a variable called “active”, and a setActive() method… when i’m subclassing it, is there any way to change that variable’s value when overriding without running the associated code in the parent class? Jan 26 11:30:08 does it have to be set as public? Jan 26 11:30:23 when user no has a Facebook session opened I want login from my application Jan 26 11:30:34 sending email and password to facebook and open a session Jan 26 11:30:52 theres any to do that using JSON or somethink like this ? Jan 26 11:33:20 AirStar, that's one of the mechanisms of reflection, yes Jan 26 11:33:40 then what is relection in java? Jan 26 11:33:44 i don’t know reflection. Jan 26 11:34:13 AirStar, I think you may need to keep reading, I think you're missing some concepts that'll help you connect the dots Jan 26 11:34:34 give me docs of reflection. Jan 26 11:34:50 then i will read it first before making android app. Jan 26 11:36:28 ultra- - What's wrong with protected access and just not calling super? Jan 26 11:37:56 it’s a custom button, which normally shows a graphic in one way when active = true, and it sets the graphic from setActive()… i’m subclassing that button because i want most of the functionality, but i’m changing how setActive() behaves Jan 26 11:38:19 oh, wait Jan 26 11:38:21 you said NOT calling super Jan 26 11:38:54 mostly, i’d still like getActive() to return the correct value, but i might have to look up protected access (still kind of new to figuring out these scopes and modifiers in java) Jan 26 11:39:32 ah, so protected means i can access it from a subclass, i’ll try that Jan 26 11:40:42 that did it, thanks flan3002 Jan 26 11:54:01 why i cant make my logcat logs full screen by double clicking ? Jan 26 11:56:05 can i use json instaead of .xml when developing android app? Jan 26 11:57:47 sci-fi - Because you forgot to calibrate your cat. Jan 26 11:58:53 Alina-malina - You can use it, but by default layouts can only be inflated from (binary) XML, so probably not what you want. Jan 26 11:59:25 flan3002:how Jan 26 11:59:40 sci-fi - I don't have a cat, sorry. Jan 26 12:00:07 then adopt one Jan 26 12:00:10 :) Jan 26 12:00:11 sci-fi - Come on, you gave no context whatsoever and there are hundres of possible reasons. There's no way we can help you like that. Jan 26 12:00:11 hmmmm ok thanks heh Jan 26 12:00:52 Alina-malina - So... not easily for layouts, if at all, but certainly for data storage. Jan 26 12:01:11 flan3002: mate i was using eclipse and i could maximize and minimze logcat by double clicking, now i use android studio Jan 26 12:01:30 well yes, thanks for pointing me, because i was going to use .json for layout instead of xml:) Jan 26 12:01:41 hi Jan 26 12:02:08 i have android:color="#FF0000" in my textView, but the color of text is not changed , it is black. Any can help me? Jan 26 12:02:09 sci-fi - Yeah, and now it doesn't work like you're used to? Think there's a button somewhere on the top of the logcat frame, but... maybe not. Jan 26 12:05:11 t0th_-_ - s/color/textColor/? Jan 26 12:18:27 flan3002: offcourse Jan 26 12:18:29 thanks Jan 26 12:18:47 how i ca bold a specific character from string in textview? Jan 26 12:21:37 hello! has anyone done android facebook integration? I got problem like this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28137099/facebook-android-photo-upload-application-link Jan 26 12:22:44