**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Feb 18 02:59:59 2016 Feb 18 03:19:21 <_xor> Hey guys, quick newbie question (I'm sure its been asked before): What are the realistic options to detect when the user/phone is within a certain distance of a GPS coord? Feb 18 03:19:57 <_xor> I wouldn't be surprised if it's not easily possible without raping the battery, or giving off privacy-issue vibes. Feb 18 03:22:31 _xor: its part of play services Feb 18 03:23:05 _xor: https://developer.android.com/training/location/geofencing.html Feb 18 03:23:16 <_xor> oh nice Feb 18 03:23:47 * _xor bookmarks & takes a note on it Feb 18 03:23:56 <_xor> Without reading it, how is it on battery? Feb 18 03:24:07 <_xor> I assume it's a coarse location? (based on wifi & cell towers?) Feb 18 03:24:29 _xor: its based on the FusedLocationProvider Feb 18 03:24:45 which is everthing Feb 18 03:24:46 lol Feb 18 03:24:56 <_xor> Ah ok, makes sense. Feb 18 03:25:36 _xor: https://developers.google.com/android/reference/com/google/android/gms/location/LocationRequest Feb 18 03:25:39 <_xor> Well, that's promising. I was wondering if I'd have to devise my own way to do it without killing the battery lol. Feb 18 03:25:54 in your LocationRequest you ask for how to balance power vs. accuracy Feb 18 03:26:20 <_xor> Ah nice. Feb 18 03:26:31 _xor: which i believe you dont have to do when using geofencing Feb 18 03:27:33 <_xor> Oh, I didn't realize those were two different methods. Feb 18 03:28:17 <_xor> Sorry, by methods, I don't literally mean "methods" in the OOP sense. I mean as in techniques/implementation options. Feb 18 03:47:34 IMMA SPANK YA FACE! Feb 18 04:25:29 someone posted a video of a talk on UI design Feb 18 04:25:46 I can't find it. Something about how your views should be as dumb as possible Feb 18 04:28:35 RustySha1kleford http://www.nointerface.com/book/ ? Feb 18 04:29:34 RustySha1kleford views not having model stuff ? Feb 18 04:29:49 maybe a talk on MVP, or uncle bob clean , etc ? Feb 18 04:29:52 or more android specific ? Feb 18 04:29:56 yeah thats the idea Feb 18 04:30:23 hah one of the regulars linked it. I opened the video, paused it and never watched it Feb 18 04:30:40 one sec Feb 18 04:30:54 this one ? https://vimeo.com/43612849 Feb 18 04:32:37 I don't think so but maybe I'll watch it Feb 18 04:32:51 hah my friend worked for 8th light. seemed like a strange place to work Feb 18 04:33:38 they're big on functional programming Feb 18 04:45:36 do they purescript for the web? Feb 18 04:46:57 Does anyone? Feb 18 04:47:47 I know they use lots of clojure Feb 18 04:47:54 seemed like an odd place to work Feb 18 04:48:56 Any company that thinks a programming paradigm is the key to a successful product needs a reality check Feb 18 04:54:27 they had a lot of cool things going on Feb 18 04:54:33 but it seems gimmicky to me Feb 18 04:55:06 so, why does everyone contract out dev work? I'm 1 of 2 people on my team who actually works for the company Feb 18 04:55:49 Contracting and profitable and with fewer responsibilities to write stuff that's easy to maintain Feb 18 04:56:04 s/and/is Feb 18 04:56:08 RustySha1kleford i think this paper influenced a lot of ceos https://hbr.org/2003/05/it-doesnt-matter Feb 18 04:59:57 im looking for a dev/serial killer Feb 18 05:00:30 gotta be willing to kill on weekends and code on weekdays Feb 18 05:05:03 b4b: pm me Feb 18 05:12:17 no? nobody thought that was funny? Feb 18 05:16:31 might he was talking about killing bugs :P Feb 18 05:21:47 Google’s CEO just sided with Apple in the encryption debate" yay Feb 18 05:22:41 Yah, Google still pissed off @ the NSA Feb 18 05:23:16 And the Apple vs. FBI thing ... afaict, the FBI is just fishing, trying to get a legal precendent Feb 18 05:25:34 TacticalJoke have you heard of 'slide for reddit' Feb 18 05:32:05 RustySha1kleford, because it's easier to hire and fire contractors Feb 18 05:32:15 so it's faster to ramp up and down workforce Feb 18 05:33:02 yeah thats a reason. I'm no businessman but i'd expect better results from actual employees Feb 18 05:33:14 they also outsource development and the results are awful Feb 18 05:33:39 * pfn has been performing outsourced work for the last 4 years Feb 18 05:33:40 it's great Feb 18 05:33:51 are you in india? Feb 18 05:34:10 no Feb 18 05:34:14 outsourced, not offshored Feb 18 05:34:23 g00s: curious why your asking...if you dont mind me asking Feb 18 05:34:29 just a guess hah. Thats where our guys are Feb 18 05:34:50 offshoring as a way to reduce costs results in really shitty work Feb 18 05:37:38 g00s: Yeah. Feb 18 05:37:46 g00s: I've been too lazy to try it. Feb 18 05:38:50 speaking of outsourced, I forgot I'm going onsite tomorrow... Feb 18 05:40:56 pfn: unbelievably shitty Feb 18 05:41:20 thats why I drink Feb 18 05:42:16 and you've only been working there for a few months Feb 18 05:42:44 hah maybe I sound a little cocky Feb 18 05:42:51 but i've never written anything that bad Feb 18 05:46:10 TacticalJoke good to check out competition, assimilate best things :) Feb 18 06:04:06 one thing i don't get about CoordinatorLayout - they say its like a FrameLayout, but most examples i see have ... one would think the AppBar and Content would be overlapped Feb 18 06:04:33 but instead, they appear as if a vertical linear layout was used Feb 18 06:05:06 the behavior controls that Feb 18 06:05:24 jsut switched to dracula theme in android, terminal is white !! Feb 18 06:05:45 pfn ok thanks Feb 18 06:07:33 also the color contrast is not great Feb 18 06:07:57 * pfn just uses standard white Feb 18 06:08:02 Have to bump up the brightness on the screen Feb 18 06:08:18 What are you preferences ? Feb 18 06:08:24 I use the standard with a Darcula-themed editor. Best of both worlds. Feb 18 06:09:17 I use solarized, I prefer a compromise between both Feb 18 06:09:54 i'm hoping SourceTree gets a dark theme, hate going between darcula and white Feb 18 06:10:11 when its getting close to bedtime :D Feb 18 06:10:25 I use flux for that Feb 18 06:10:25 maybe i need orange goggles Feb 18 06:10:39 f.lux Feb 18 06:10:41 suhas_sm flex still lets lots of blue / green Feb 18 06:10:46 hmm Feb 18 06:10:48 i use it too btw, nice stuff Feb 18 06:11:36 So I just have two themes in my studio, Default and Dracula. Will explore more themes Feb 18 06:20:47 http://eclectide.com/blog/2014/11/23/monokai-theme-intellij/ Feb 18 06:20:51 lovely theme Feb 18 06:23:24 Full black or full white background is a non starter for me Feb 18 06:28:12 hmm Feb 18 06:28:42 http://color-themes.com/?view=index Feb 18 06:31:51 Hi, I'm going to write an upload service for my app, service with thread or intentService? Feb 18 06:31:52 all i care about is AS 2.0 having good subpixel font AA on OS X ;) Feb 18 06:32:48 i guess that now means i have to run AS with jetbrains JRE Feb 18 06:33:01 which i didn't see in the full download Feb 18 06:34:59 @astroduck IntentService Feb 18 06:40:42 @astroduck I think can be just IntentService not service with intentservice Feb 18 06:41:04 suhas_sm: *with thread Feb 18 06:41:19 and use broadcasts to update UI? Feb 18 06:42:13 Why would use Threads ? Yeah and broadcasts Feb 18 06:42:34 Android has lots of wrappers for threads Feb 18 06:42:58 Use AsyncTask ? Feb 18 06:50:07 dragorn interesting stuff http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8756397&cid=51524693 Feb 18 07:24:52 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aireal.solar_fade&ref=producthunt Feb 18 07:24:54 pretty cool Feb 18 07:29:56 Upgrading to gradle 1.5.0 I get this error "Error:Access to the dex task is now impossible, starting with 1.4.0" How to I find out what is causing this? Feb 18 07:32:40 astroduck: are you using AS? Feb 18 07:33:42 astroduck: if so, I assume you've tried restarting AS Feb 18 07:37:43 Napalm: Yes i did Feb 18 07:39:12 astroduck: you mean 1.5.0 of the android gradle plugin yea? Feb 18 07:40:02 astroduck: in AS go into File > Project Structure > Project Feb 18 07:46:43 Napalm: Found th culprit, I was using new-relic and it was causing the problem Feb 18 07:49:17 astroduck: good to know Feb 18 08:31:42 Good morning to you all. Feb 18 08:31:52 Let's rock 'n roll baby :) Feb 18 08:37:18 o7 Feb 18 08:37:48 Number5: do you work remote? Feb 18 08:40:04 orbyt_, well that depends :P Feb 18 08:40:31 Number5:..on? Feb 18 08:40:37 Number5: * Feb 18 08:41:04 whether I work on my private project or a project for my boss :P Feb 18 08:41:23 ah =p Feb 18 08:41:36 but what has this to do with android my friend :) Feb 18 08:42:31 Was just gonna say, I see you in here every morning (well, late night for me) and your always so cheery. I like it. Feb 18 08:44:35 orbyt_, hahaha, well this gift started since a few days ago :) I live in the Netherlands and it's 09:45 am here. I forgot the fun of programming, and so I want to change that. Feb 18 08:45:07 orbyt_, but thnx for noticing it ;-) Feb 18 08:45:48 Number5: You wouldnt happen to work at Booking.com would you? I always see them hiring in the netherlands Feb 18 08:54:49 orbyt_, no. But it would be nice to work for like 6 months or a year. Just to taste the environment. I work almost 10 years for a company that sells systems to intercept phone calls and internet traffic :P Feb 18 09:00:19 in my valueAnimator i change some variable and call invalidate Feb 18 09:00:28 the thing is after onresume some of the calls dont call onDraw Feb 18 09:00:50 can i somehow detect that invalidate indeed called ondraw Feb 18 09:09:15 Hey, I'm trying to write a simple input output app. there should be 1 input screen with a button that opens screen 2 with the output. Do I need another acitivity fot my output screen to get the usual app behavior? I tried just to set the other content view, which works but on pressing the back button, the app closes instead of returning to the first screen. on the other hand I think its pretty overloaded to start a new activity with an Feb 18 09:09:15 intent, because I need those input values... Feb 18 09:10:10 to make thing short: New Screen = new Acitivity, or is there an "easy" way? Feb 18 09:12:11 To get a back stack (so that pressing Back will return to where you were), you need one of a new Activity, a new Fragment, or a custom solution (which is complicated). Feb 18 09:12:36 I dislike Fragments, personally, but some people like them. Feb 18 09:14:43 ok thx, I wrote a sloppy game engine years ago with the surface panel, basicly I wrote some kind of my own panels, but that was a lot to do ^^ on the other hand it will be hard to "parse" (dont know if parse is the right word here) als the values to the new activity. Feb 18 09:14:56 but thx for the answer, I'll figure something out Feb 18 09:15:27 You have to serialize those values regardless of which approach you take. Feb 18 09:16:16 thats for saving the values? ^^ I'll just google, thx for the advice Feb 18 09:16:54 Android might kill your process while it's running in the background. When the user comes back to your app, they'll expect the initial state to be restored. You can do this in Activity.onSaveInstanceState. Feb 18 09:17:03 Same applies by default to screen rotation. Feb 18 09:17:28 I mean "You can save the values in Activity.onSaveInstanceState". Feb 18 09:19:15 If you're starting out, just stick with Activities for now. Fragments assume you already know how Activities work. Feb 18 09:19:19 that sounds familiar, but first I need to get back to the first screen by pressing back on the second screen... thats where it needs to go first, (trial and error project) Feb 18 09:21:19 That happens automatically if you start a new Activity without finishing the one your are starting the new one from. Feb 18 09:23:14 Ok, thx. Feb 18 09:48:40 hey all! for a ci-env I am installing the sdk via the cli (android update sdk --no-ui -a --filter tools,platform-tools,android-21,android-22) .. Any idea where those passable labels are documented? I'd also like to add the x86 and amd-images for android-22 Feb 18 09:52:18 ah! found "android list sdk" Feb 18 10:05:34 does anybody know if those indexes will be constant? Feb 18 10:05:58 looks like the higher ones (76 and so on) are going down whenever a new target is released Feb 18 10:07:01 I know this is a lot to ask, but can someone walk me through building CM for a device? Feb 18 10:07:22 CM? Feb 18 10:07:38 Cyanogenmod Feb 18 10:07:45 ah.. found "android list sdk --all --extended" which also lists labels Feb 18 10:07:46 go to #android-root Feb 18 10:07:59 I realized this was the wrong channel Feb 18 10:09:03 eeyup Feb 18 10:22:55 Morning Feb 18 10:23:20 oahyou Feb 18 10:27:05 Can I set language (strings.xml) for specific buildType ? Feb 18 10:46:28 hey everyone, i was trying to use accelerometer, since my device doesnt have a gyroscope, and ive been trying to figure out how to make my phone properly react to the gyro Feb 18 10:46:33 sorry to the acell Feb 18 10:47:05 but it seems, i can roll, and look up and down, but i can go left and right, beacuse it seems to auto correct itself after half a second Feb 18 10:47:24 im sure this is something used to keep things stable Feb 18 10:47:40 but i was thinking perhaps that 3rd angle needs to be used differently Feb 18 10:48:09 im using unity, and i was wondering if anyone has experience using the accelerometer for vr Feb 18 11:20:28 so im hearing that the compass is better if i dont have a gyro Feb 18 11:32:08 oO Feb 18 11:36:26 Hi guys, what the best method to determine if the user is has been disconnected from the net ? It often happens that the wifi is on and the network is connected but the internet is not working. Feb 18 11:36:36 Hi guys, what is the best method to determine if the user is has been disconnected from the net ? It often happens that the wifi is on and the network is connected but the internet is not working. Feb 18 11:47:23 I'm trying to measure the visible size of imageviews that are being scrolled in a Recyclerview, I'm kind of there but I keep getting nullpointer exception after a few scrolls on this code: https://gist.github.com/Jitan/209777da00635d99e42b Stacktrace is included at bottom of Gist. Until it crashes I get the numbers I need. Any pointers appreciated Feb 18 11:48:40 I tried wrapping it all in a null check but then I just stop getting any numbers at all, so after a few scrolls I don't get any View from the LayoutManager at all Feb 18 11:49:59 JitanRo, getChildAt returns a null Feb 18 11:52:00 JitanRo, what does your getFirstVisibleItemPosition do Feb 18 11:52:03 yeah, but at first it doesn't Feb 18 11:52:38 danijoo: what ended up in the scala debate yesterday? Feb 18 11:52:42 I missed the ending Feb 18 11:53:06 Zharf it just calls mLayoutManager.findFirstVisibleItemPosition() Feb 18 11:53:27 it ended like ¨fuck you!¨ - ¨fuck you too!¨ Feb 18 11:53:28 :p Feb 18 11:53:34 lolz Feb 18 11:53:44 I always love being a fly on the wall in things like this Feb 18 11:53:49 ^^ Feb 18 11:55:42 Zharf I updated the gist with the log just before crash Feb 18 11:56:23 maybe when the first view is recycled something goes wonky Feb 18 11:58:03 check if tthe value returned by findFirstVisibleItemPosition is sane Feb 18 12:00:05 checking Feb 18 12:00:48 yeah it's 0 switching to 1 and then crash Feb 18 12:03:32 open for suggestions of other ways to measure as well... maybe I have the wrong approach Feb 18 12:06:34 hmm, sometimes it lets me scroll more than one picture Feb 18 12:09:04 ok weird now it seems to work with this... https://gist.github.com/Jitan/c7ecabb8755f3b85c2d9 Feb 18 12:10:59 I would guess that the next item hasn't finished layout yet Feb 18 12:11:07 but would have to do more research to confirm Feb 18 12:11:53 yeah, I tried something similar already with a null check though and it still crashed, weird... I think I was trying to allocate new objects inside the scroll method Feb 18 12:11:59 trying to avoid * Feb 18 12:12:27 I am using Android Studio 2.0 and have Android 4.4 AVD. The AVD displays nowadays the new toolbar (which I like), and the ugly gray button panel (mostly same functionality as in the new toolbar). Feb 18 12:12:33 Is there a way to hide this old gray button panel? Feb 18 12:12:50 The numbers I get for TOP / BOTTOM don't look right now though Feb 18 12:13:38 after the third item they're the same Feb 18 12:13:43 no change Feb 18 12:17:48 must be some better way to do this Feb 18 12:22:26 JitanRo, what exactly are you trying to do? would iterating RecyclerView children be enough? Feb 18 12:23:16 I want to know which view takes up the most space on the screen Feb 18 12:23:32 these are fullscreen images Feb 18 12:26:00 solved it, incase anyone was wondering, yRot = Input.compass.magneticHeading; the x is accelerometer Feb 18 12:29:03 Hey guys do you know if google achievements without the incremental option can have a percentage input? Feb 18 12:38:35 Which versions of android support custom notifications? Feb 18 12:42:44 All of them Feb 18 12:43:47 can android work with jdk 8? Feb 18 12:44:13 yes. Feb 18 12:44:26 but you cant use 8´s features Feb 18 12:44:40 ok Feb 18 12:45:04 so i don't have to install jdk7 Feb 18 12:53:23 Zharf thanks for trying to help out, I solved it by doing this: View view = mRecyclerView.findChildViewUnder(screenSize.x / 2, screenSize.y / 2); Feb 18 12:53:41 JitanRo, cool Feb 18 12:54:22 danijoo, retrolambda though <3 Feb 18 12:54:55 Zharf, Kotlin though ;) Feb 18 12:55:03 ew Feb 18 13:06:53 Is there a specific channel for google game services? Feb 18 13:07:10 no clue, but doubtful Feb 18 13:07:23 might have the best luck on stackoverflow Feb 18 13:07:32 Bleh Feb 18 13:07:34 ok thanks Feb 18 13:12:05 I want to merge an element of of my manifest. If I add it does not get merged, probably because Um, I got Android Studio 2.0 Canary 4 as a ZIP, how would I install it? Feb 18 13:14:10 I mean, I want to upgrade, but this one seems like an already installed copy or something Feb 18 13:14:49 OverCoder, copy paste. there is no upgrade for canary Feb 18 13:16:03 What copy paste? Feb 18 13:16:08 Paste to the same installation folder? Feb 18 13:16:10 Copy and replace? Feb 18 13:16:33 It should be separate from your stable AS. Feb 18 13:16:43 ^ this Feb 18 13:17:18 But I'd not like to have multiple installations, and then I'd be stuck trying to get projects to import on both Feb 18 13:17:41 Then I guess uninstall the stable one. :D Feb 18 13:17:45 ^ this Feb 18 13:18:02 hm Feb 18 13:18:05 and be prepared to be annoyed once something doesnt work out in a canary release Feb 18 13:18:17 and you have to reinstall stable because you need to get shit done Feb 18 13:18:26 * OverCoder gets scared Feb 18 13:18:48 Yeah, I don't see any harm in keeping the stable one around. Feb 18 13:18:49 Okay fine, is it an easy operation to my project to work on the newer AS? Feb 18 13:19:01 to make my* Feb 18 13:19:10 just import it in new AS Feb 18 13:19:20 nice, thanks guys :) Feb 18 13:21:26 is passing activity as parameter to new View(context) bad design Feb 18 13:21:44 Ashiren, no. whats the alternative ;) Feb 18 13:21:44 Why would you? Feb 18 13:22:05 activity.getApplicationContext() Feb 18 13:22:18 Ashiren, thats really bad. Feb 18 13:22:22 ^ Feb 18 13:22:31 views live in activity context, so never pass them an app context Feb 18 13:22:41 ah ok Feb 18 13:22:59 i thought that would give some leakage Feb 18 13:23:21 Views don't outlive their activities, so nothinf can leak. Feb 18 13:23:26 nothing* Feb 18 13:23:54 if you do setContentView with an Id those views will also be creates with activity context Feb 18 13:24:16 very well Feb 18 13:24:33 hmpf.. Kotlin in Action needs to be written faster :p I bought it yesterday and im already 80% through the current content :/ Feb 18 13:27:46 I'm on a macbook air -> I was able to debug my S4 pages before [at least on Windows it was pretty easy], here it doesn't seem to detect that it's plugged in Feb 18 13:27:50 My opinion: I have a parallel .NET project in C#. I was looking for an tutorial of async/await, which is comparable with AsyncTask. But ooh boy how bad this is understood by a lot of .NET developers, with bad tutorials. I really thank God there is Android and iOS. Opensource is just so important, because real enthousiast developers with make programming fun with good tutorials and libraries. M$ will never learn, I really mean it. Feb 18 13:27:59 Android itself isn't showing the connected as media device Feb 18 13:28:07 adb devices shows nothing Feb 18 13:29:02 But M$ has really good IDE, that's the only positive thing I can say. Feb 18 13:29:33 I think the only difference is the USB cable :s It's one from a portable battery charger... as someone took the black usb cable Feb 18 13:29:56 macbook has usb? o.o Feb 18 13:30:16 Ashiren, mine has two :P Feb 18 13:30:51 Hello, I'm trying to delete a method using proguard. But it isn't doing anything to the method. This is what I'm trying https://gist.github.com/wviana/651ed6d17bcccc965b19 Feb 18 13:32:11 mmm it's charge only cable :( Feb 18 13:32:26 can I debug inbox via wifi / bluetooth ? Feb 18 13:33:24 wviana, just wrap the content in if (BuildConfig.DEBUG) .. it'll noop in release builds, and probably get optimized away completely Feb 18 13:37:46 dan2k3k4: look for adb wireless Feb 18 13:38:07 Ashiren yeah but still requires initial adb connection to setup tcip Feb 18 13:38:09 :( Feb 18 13:38:27 will just get a usb cable over next few days Feb 18 13:39:15 not really Feb 18 13:39:23 wviana: does it affect Log? Feb 18 13:39:44 dan2k3k4: have you tried this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=za.co.henry.hsu.adbwirelessbyhenry Feb 18 13:41:31 Ashiren: yeah Feb 18 13:41:41 Ashiren: no logs showing. Feb 18 13:44:13 SimonVT: Sounds good, but why proguard don't remove the metohd ? Feb 18 13:44:56 No idea, I don't use proguard.. But BuildConfig.DEBUG is definitely a better way to have debug-only code Feb 18 13:45:07 Ashiren I haven't rooted my phone :/ does that require root ? Feb 18 13:45:20 SimonVT: Thank you. ;) Feb 18 13:45:28 it says (no root) Feb 18 13:45:54 proguard does not remove methods that are activily reference from anywhere. so it wont remove your method until the java compiler also optimazed it out of doLogin() Feb 18 13:46:17 which it should do when you add BuildConfig.Debug as SimonVT suggested Feb 18 13:47:31 Hi. Why does ActivityCompat.requestPermissions starts the dialog and closes it in a moment even if user chose "Don't ask me again'? Feb 18 13:47:51 also assumenosideeffects only works if you also have enabled optimization in Proguard which is disabled by default iirc Feb 18 13:48:08 SimonVT: Works like charm. So if the method is unused proguard will remove it ? I may keep the assume no sideefects to incentive proguard to remove it and no one get access to the string constants. Do you think it'll work ? Feb 18 13:48:50 thats the whole point of using proguard for a lot of people. removing unused methods to shrink method count Feb 18 13:49:24 is there someway to check if proguard really removed a method ? Feb 18 13:51:35 wviana, I dont know if theres a way to enable logging for that but you can always decompile the resulting APK and look at the classes in it Feb 18 13:52:02 danijoo: Good ideia. I,ll check it. Feb 18 13:53:53 Hi. Why does ActivityCompat.requestPermissions starts the dialog and closes it in a moment even if user chose "Don't ask me again'? How can I fix it? Feb 18 13:58:28 guliash, show your code.. Feb 18 13:59:59 Does someone knows a way to check the methods of a .class file ? Feb 18 14:00:54 danijoo: http://pastebin.com/9uRGiLyL Feb 18 14:01:31 wviana, extract the dex file from the apk, then use dex2jar to make a jar from it and use jd-gui to browse the jar content - thats how i do it Feb 18 14:02:16 danijoo: Thanks :D Feb 18 14:03:21 danijoo: user chooses 'Don't ask again'. Then we restart the app, and go into if, and the dialog shouldn't be shown, but it appears for a moment and then closes. Feb 18 14:04:06 guliash, not sure but maybe thats intended by the system? :/ Feb 18 14:04:41 wviana: If you're concerned about the string constants being leaked, use buildConfigField in your build.gradle to only add them to BuildConfig in debug builds Feb 18 14:04:46 danijoo: don't know. but when I comment the line with 'requestPermissions', it behaves like expected. Feb 18 14:05:54 Hello guys, I have a list of 20 cities to pick, what;s the best way to present it to the use? First thing I thought of was a Spinner, but I'm not sure if that's the right one for Material Design. I was also thinking about a Picker, but I only found picker for a date/time or a number, not for list of strings. What do you think? Feb 18 14:06:56 SimonVT: ok, I just check the methods has gone. Thanks very much Feb 18 14:07:09 Number5, spinner imo Feb 18 14:07:29 or AutoCompleteTextView if it will get more than 20 Feb 18 14:08:36 SimonVT: What do you suggest to hide URL endpoints or I shouldn't wore about it ? Feb 18 14:08:56 danijoo, thnx, I think I'll go for the spinner too. A problem might be that my customer won't go with that. Because they have an iOS version using a picker :S Feb 18 14:08:58 What do you mean? Feb 18 14:12:58 SimonVT: Right now I use retrofit todo my http requests. In the API interface I have string constants that is the BackEnd api that I send the requests, something like String HOST = "http://somehost/api"; Should I care about it ? Feb 18 14:13:02 Pickers and UIPickerViews should die, as soon as possible Feb 18 14:13:54 Nah, don't bother.. Not really anything to do, that's easy to find out either way Feb 18 14:14:52 wviana, you cant hinder anyone to find that uri. People can simply intercept traffic - nothing to do about that Feb 18 14:15:35 danijoo: That ok. Asking just for curiosity. Feb 18 14:16:38 SimonVT: d2j and jd-gui are awesome tools. Thank you very much for your help. Feb 18 14:17:57 API 23 is Marshmellow? Feb 18 14:18:12 yes Feb 18 14:23:57 Google APIs Intel x86 Atom System Image (vs.) Intel x86 Atom System Image? Feb 18 14:24:10 fight! Feb 18 14:24:14 * OverCoder fights Feb 18 14:24:23 No I am serious, what's the difference? Feb 18 14:24:28 Google APIs Feb 18 14:24:32 ... ^^ Feb 18 14:24:34 o.o Feb 18 14:24:40 its in the name.. Feb 18 14:24:49 I... what does that even mean? Feb 18 14:25:13 APIs for maps and stuff like that.. Google services Feb 18 14:25:18 One has it, other doesn't Feb 18 14:25:23 it shouts "google me!" Feb 18 14:25:23 Ah, so something like Play services? Feb 18 14:25:32 danijoo, hm, right Feb 18 14:25:39 remove the `something like` ;) Feb 18 14:25:52 hm :> Feb 18 14:26:02 I wonder why would they put them as separate images :/ Feb 18 14:26:27 because there are projects that dont need them and projects that need them. Feb 18 14:26:57 for example you wont have play services on an amazon device Feb 18 14:27:07 Ah... Feb 18 14:27:10 Now I got it Feb 18 14:27:13 Thanks :) Feb 18 14:27:17 I think one used to be built from aosp, other was proprietary Feb 18 14:27:30 hm Feb 18 14:27:47 And then intel built the x86 images, and I guess google is involved in the x86 with google apis Feb 18 14:29:51 Ah, I think that basically means to me to get the Google APIs image since I am developing apps that are supposed to work on normal Android devices? (such as Nexus) Feb 18 14:30:20 great Feb 18 14:30:21 No, only if you need google apis Feb 18 14:30:37 What if I used the image with the APIs with an app that doesn't use them? Feb 18 14:30:44 :| Feb 18 14:30:49 That still works Feb 18 14:30:50 apocalypse Feb 18 14:31:22 hm :o Feb 18 14:52:03 Hi, can I ask question here, what motivates you to develop an app without money or any exchange at the momment? Feb 18 14:52:49 Why are you asking? :s Feb 18 14:53:23 because I just wanna know what motivates you, specially if there no money at first Feb 18 14:55:09 the love of struggling with bet..alpha tools Feb 18 14:55:25 AndroidNewb: I think what TacticalJoke was asking was why do you want to know lol Feb 18 14:55:34 :D Feb 18 14:55:54 I wanna know to get me motivated as well :) Feb 18 14:56:13 family, friends? money? Feb 18 14:56:20 AndroidNewb: In my case, I use the app all day every day. Feb 18 14:56:21 you want to get motivated because others are also motivated? :D Feb 18 14:56:24 I also enjoy programming. Feb 18 14:56:32 Pick a project you'll use every day. Feb 18 14:56:50 What app? Feb 18 14:57:06 Ive heard that before @tacticalJoke Feb 18 14:57:38 but sometimes you don't have the fire to develop a really cool app. Feb 18 14:58:24 AndroidNewb: Don't let your dreams be dreams. Feb 18 14:59:15 https://youtu.be/ZXsQAXx_ao0 Feb 18 14:59:19 @TacticalJoke true, I guess that helpful "? Feb 18 14:59:23 :) Feb 18 14:59:55 lol @ video Feb 18 15:01:16 Hey does anyone know if i can send apk upload to google play like the plugin in call droidlan anyone hear of it? Feb 18 15:01:17 money doesn't motivate me at all Feb 18 15:01:44 interedting problems do Feb 18 15:01:51 interesting* Feb 18 15:02:30 @Zharf but we need money to survive. :) Feb 18 15:02:41 *scene cuts to Zharf swimming in money à la Scrooge McDuck* Feb 18 15:02:55 ;) Feb 18 15:03:38 some people say I'm rich but I make less than most people in our company... but I have pretty much no expenses Feb 18 15:03:53 Hey TactiaclJoke how are you? Feb 18 15:04:09 small mortgage payments and food Feb 18 15:04:52 @Zharf nice, started from the bottom. Feb 18 15:04:58 but if my job didn't interest me, I wouldn't stay just because it gives me money Feb 18 15:04:59 no in the top. Feb 18 15:05:00 Yeah, Tom Cruise tried to convince me I was right the other day. I'm like "Whatever, Tom". Feb 18 15:05:04 rich* Feb 18 15:05:16 perlsyntax: Not too bad. How 'bout chu? Feb 18 15:06:58 but then, I'd be bored out of my mind without a job Feb 18 15:08:14 TacticalJoke,I good try to find out if this plugin for android studio call DroidLAne upload apk to google play console if this true. Feb 18 15:10:17 perlsyntax, https://developers.google.com/android-publisher/#publishing ? Feb 18 15:11:06 Zharf,So it must be a spam then. Feb 18 15:11:59 I don't know what you mean Feb 18 15:12:31 it's possible to write stuff to publish stuff on google play, bypassing the dwveloper console site Feb 18 15:12:45 Zharf, really Feb 18 15:12:49 really Feb 18 15:13:45 i didn't know this. but i read that the google api in the developer console does work. Feb 18 15:14:00 but I think the first version needs to be done through the console Feb 18 15:15:44 i think your right.[Settings] -> [API access] -> [Create OAuth Client] something like this i bet:) Feb 18 15:16:23 Zharf,I have to ask in the google play console to make sure this works:) Feb 18 15:17:36 thanks for the help Zharf:) Feb 18 15:20:19 no problem Feb 18 15:25:54 :) Feb 18 15:37:47 Good afternoon everyone! I'm wondering if it is viable to use a navigation drawer to switch activities (not fragments)? Which also means that the drawer has to be reimplemented in every activity. Feb 18 15:38:37 you can use a base activity class that implements the drawer and let all activities inherit from it Feb 18 15:38:55