**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 13 02:59:58 2016
Apr 13 03:09:27 <CedricBeust> Event Buses are so 2010. The new hotness is Rx.
Apr 13 03:12:22 <kasual> Does anyone know how I can determine the actual cache partition size for a device?
Apr 13 03:15:06 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> anyone know off the top of their head what's the AS shortcut to go back to the last file you edited?
Apr 13 03:16:09 <pfn> ctrl tab
Apr 13 03:17:05 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> holy fuck I love you pfn
Apr 13 03:17:26 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> I didn't even mean that one.  I was thinking something like ctrl + b or something
Apr 13 03:17:30 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> that's much more useful
Apr 13 03:18:04 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> omg!  tyvm... that's is the greatest thing ive leanred today.
Apr 13 03:18:20 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> I hate using my mouse to navigate around, they should completely save me from having to deal with it.
Apr 13 03:18:22 * Ping_2_Ur_Pong dances
Apr 13 03:18:38 <orbyt_> you know you can look up all the shortcuts right
Apr 13 03:19:07 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> how?  I have a bookmark somewhere but its a PITA to go look at it outside the environement.
Apr 13 03:19:41 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> I know command + shift + a search everything, but specifically pull up shortcuts, whats the shortcut?
Apr 13 03:19:57 <orbyt_> Settings->keymap or something
Apr 13 03:20:36 <orbyt_> theres also a plugin that if you do something with a mouse itll show you the keyboard shortcut
Apr 13 03:20:48 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> that one would be nice
Apr 13 03:26:02 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> I think I just reached nirvana.  I haven't touched my mouse in the last 5 mins since pfn told me about ctrl + tab
Apr 13 03:29:42 <kasual> or how big of a deal is it if I dont set BOARD_CACHEIMAGE_PARTITION_SIZE to the correct size
Apr 13 03:30:37 <CedricBeust> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: Whenever you're not sure what the keybinding is, Ctrl-shift-a
Apr 13 03:30:55 <CedricBeust> "I want to turn off typo spellings" -> ctrl-shift-a "typo", boom
Apr 13 03:41:08 * Ping_2_Ur_Pong bows
Apr 13 03:49:47 <tricknology> Hey all, I have a weird BT socket problem.. I am writing to a BT storage device and it requires me to listen to the response before writing the next chunk of a file (16k). My read is async in a Thread and it kinda just sits there looping waiting for bytes, then throws it through a hander. If success it triggers the next write and so on until the file is complete.   The problem is there is about a 3 sec gap between suggessful
Apr 13 03:49:47 <tricknology> write, and a read.  Everything points to the device or network connection being crappy, but the write speed is so fast..
Apr 13 03:50:11 <tricknology> Is there anything I can do to optimize the read speed or give the read() process more CPU time?
Apr 13 03:51:04 <tricknology> (assuming it’s not acually the device taking ages to ACK)
Apr 13 03:55:56 <pfn> it already has lots of cpu time, you don't have to do anything
Apr 13 04:12:42 <g00s> tricknology so your read thread is blocking on the socket, correct ?
Apr 13 04:17:07 <tricknology> pfn, i figured maybe I’d explore other options if there are any.
Apr 13 04:17:22 <tricknology>  yes, goos I believe it is.
Apr 13 04:17:27 <tricknology> g00s:
Apr 13 04:18:34 <tricknology> pretty much blocking, anyway because there is no timer or sync/lock
Apr 13 04:18:34 <g00s> i guess you have to rule out the other device being poky :(
Apr 13 04:18:49 <tricknology> how do you mean?
Apr 13 04:19:21 <g00s> maybe after receiving that 16kb its spending 3 seconds doing something
Apr 13 04:19:56 <tricknology> that’s what I’m thinking
Apr 13 04:20:20 <tricknology> if I send smaller chunks, like 2kb it’s more like 1s… but that adds up to be longer than the 3s for 16kb :(
Apr 13 04:20:41 <tricknology> even smaller, like 256 is a tad faster but O(N) kicks in
Apr 13 04:21:34 <g00s> if you don't have control of the HW , mock the device with another android phone and stress test it
Apr 13 04:21:43 <tricknology> building a test case to send to the MFR, they say it’s no longer than 500ms…
Apr 13 04:21:47 <tricknology> That’s a damn good idea..
Apr 13 04:22:20 <IrishGringo> Same question from many hours ago... I want to do a Wizard with Fragments...  any sugestions on the best Frag wizard, and tutorial?
Apr 13 04:22:23 <tricknology> I need that anyway to simulate BT interference.. (BTW do you know of another good way to simulate that other than running the aforementioned app on a bunch of devices?)
Apr 13 04:22:48 <tricknology> Wizards make a lot of things easy but you lose some finer detail IrishGringo
Apr 13 04:23:07 <tricknology> I usually go wiht the Wizard and add things later. BUt if ‘m highly customizing something then probably scratch
Apr 13 04:23:50 <tricknology> Thanks for the idea g00s.  I’m going to use that test code I’m sending them to test a mock.  I’ll try and update you
Apr 13 04:24:08 <g00s> cool
Apr 13 04:24:12 <IrishGringo> tricknology: I am just doing a 6 step wizard...  each screen just goes to the next screen... the last screen goes to screen 3
Apr 13 04:24:35 <IrishGringo> So I was playing with fragments... but still figuring it out
Apr 13 04:25:01 <g00s> tricknology yeah maybe send 16kb of 1s, then 16kb of 2s, etc so the mocking device can verify its got the right data too
Apr 13 04:25:26 <g00s> then once that work try using some BT mice and keyboards ...
Apr 13 04:25:32 <g00s> that will shit on the 2.4 ism band
Apr 13 04:25:55 <tricknology> ooh haha IrishGringo I though you mean when creating fragments in your IDE, use it’s wizard
Apr 13 04:26:28 <IrishGringo> tricknology: not sure what your saying...
Apr 13 04:27:19 <tricknology> It depends on your use case IrishGringo, A fragment seems easier for a wizard or tut.  You still have your base fragment to come back to instead of using onActivityResult
Apr 13 04:28:29 <tricknology> thanks g00s, what do you mean 16kb of 2’s.. oh haha char(2)
Apr 13 04:28:49 <g00s> just payloads that the receiving device are correct
Apr 13 04:29:07 <g00s> just some shared agreement what they look like
Apr 13 04:33:41 <tricknology> ok sounds good ty
Apr 13 04:42:59 <IrishGringo> tricknology: I just had a power outage... and missed anything you may have said to me...  could you repeat...  about fragment wizard generator
Apr 13 04:43:19 <tricknology> It depends on your use case IrishGringo, A fragment seems easier for a wizard or tut.  You still have your base fragment to come back to instead of using onActivityResul
Apr 13 04:43:44 <tricknology> err base activity, whichever
Apr 13 04:44:16 <tricknology> let me put it this way… if I were creating something like a setup wizard, I would use fragments
Apr 13 04:45:25 <IrishGringo> Its basically a reporting system...  each fragment is a question with some buttons and edittext...   and a NEXT button.  every next button, I save the page data...
Apr 13 04:45:45 <IrishGringo> Last page is a submit and returns to Frag 3.
Apr 13 04:46:05 <IrishGringo> sp it would be nice if I could keep all the code in one Activity class file.
Apr 13 05:08:17 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> IrishGringo: dpeneds on how indepth you need to be.  If you have just text you need to present, why not try dialogfragments.  If you need to point and transition, yea fragments would probably be the easiest way.
Apr 13 05:10:41 <IrishGringo> Ping_2_Ur_Pong: my thought was a linear process...  I am normally doing iOS stuff, and the navigation there is so easy...  not so much on android
Apr 13 05:48:19 <Demon_Jester> If am using for loop, and using hashmap to store bssid to scanresults, how would I store the key ifthere is multiple bssid?
Apr 13 05:48:56 <Demon_Jester> I mean what should i use? integer? I tried integer but it happened to not work out.
Apr 13 06:00:45 <tricknology> Irish, use Message/Handler?
Apr 13 06:01:52 <tricknology> Demon_Jester: why not use a list?
Apr 13 06:01:58 <tricknology> of Object
Apr 13 06:01:59 <viran> Hey, I have a FrameLayout with 2 layers, when a user clicks a view on the bottom layer I 'popup' the upper layer (visibility change). I want to create an animation as if a button from the buttom layer is translated to the position of a button from the upper layer.... as if the original button moved... is that possible?
Apr 13 06:02:24 <tricknology> you want to be able to search by bssid?
Apr 13 06:02:50 <tricknology> HashMap<bssid, List<scanresults>>
Apr 13 06:03:00 <tricknology> Demon_Jester: ^
Apr 13 06:03:26 <tricknology> viran: ObjectAnimator
Apr 13 06:12:50 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, sorry I haven't responded back, I am using a list. But I guess I am not grasping it, Im getting index out of bounds exception now.
Apr 13 06:13:08 <tricknology> use list.size() to get the siz of the list,
Apr 13 06:13:37 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> size() -1 for last index
Apr 13 06:14:00 <tricknology> you scan for results, you get a ssid with it.  sometimes you can get multiple results for a ssid?
Apr 13 06:14:04 <tricknology> you want to store all?
Apr 13 06:14:25 <tricknology> should probably use a db here. but if you want to use maps..
Apr 13 06:15:11 <tricknology> you have a hashmap which has keys and values.. you can’t have multiple keys, and I assume you do somehow want to store the results of the multiple key
Apr 13 06:15:16 <tricknology> i.e. ssd
Apr 13 06:15:23 <tricknology> ssid*
Apr 13 06:16:10 <tricknology> so check if the ssid exists in the map with map.containsKey(ssid)
Apr 13 06:16:46 <tricknology> if it does exist use map.get(ssid).add(results)
Apr 13 06:16:54 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, no, im filtering wifi by BSSID, against a String[], it lists any wifi (just one since I am using test router) and different ways I have tried, sometimes it works if it is one result, sometimes it only works if there is multiple results.. etc. it doesn't have to be hashmap, and sometimes when i select a item, it gives me completely different mac address.
Apr 13 06:17:21 <tricknology> then you have some problems with variables not being cleared, liekly
Apr 13 06:17:51 <Demon_Jester> Here I will show you my code, I need to remove some redundencies, and put it back to where it was semi working.
Apr 13 06:18:55 <tricknology> or your position you’re returning does not match the list you need to choose from.
Apr 13 06:19:08 <AlexandruM> good morning
Apr 13 06:20:04 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, that is what I thought mainly, but jeez idk ive been at this for 9 hours now.
Apr 13 06:20:19 <tricknology> :/
Apr 13 06:20:28 <tricknology> take a break
Apr 13 06:20:47 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, I did, I went to go eat something, and watched a tv show, and just came back.
Apr 13 06:20:57 <tricknology> ah
Apr 13 06:23:04 <guliash> Hi. I'm learning cheesesquare(https://github.com/chrisbanes/cheesesquare). I don't understand why on MainActivity status bar isn't transparent though in the styles it's marked as a tranparent one. What makes it to be not transparent? Thanks.
Apr 13 06:23:24 <arjun_> Hi, is there any workaround for the issue: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=185370 ?
Apr 13 06:23:34 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, sorry I dced did you say anything else after I said I took a break, and watched a tv show.
Apr 13 06:23:43 <tricknology> ah
Apr 13 06:23:47 <tricknology> that was it
Apr 13 06:24:25 <tricknology> if you get array out of bounds when you clicked, likely you’re using the wrong variable to select position, or the wrong list
Apr 13 06:24:49 <liliboot> hi
Apr 13 06:24:58 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, ok my code still doesn't work, hold up, I will link it real quick
Apr 13 06:25:29 <tricknology> or, if you have some 2d hashmap<ssid, List<stuff>> then your problem is in the list.get(i)
Apr 13 06:25:54 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, here you go, http://pastie.org/10795964
Apr 13 06:26:03 <Demon_Jester> hopefully you can see simple error that I don't notice.
Apr 13 06:27:56 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, sorry, with that current code, it throws an error at my Log.v, and this is the error "java.lang.NullPointerException: println needs a message"
Apr 13 06:28:19 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, so the value is going null, and I am not sure how to keep that from happening.
Apr 13 06:29:01 <tricknology> your message is null
Apr 13 06:29:08 <tricknology> Log.v(TAG,null) is happening
Apr 13 06:29:28 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, I know I am just not sure why it is, and to keep it from going null.
Apr 13 06:29:44 <tricknology> do this?  Log.v(TAG, string+””)
Apr 13 06:29:47 <tricknology> hacky but it works
Apr 13 06:29:56 <tricknology> should prunt “null"
Apr 13 06:31:03 <tricknology> what is the wifilv a child of?
Apr 13 06:32:06 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, its a listview. what do you mean by child? I mean I set "adapter" with it. Now sure if you mean that.
Apr 13 06:32:27 <tricknology> arjun_: turn on location
Apr 13 06:32:42 <tricknology> where does the lsitview live?
Apr 13 06:33:12 <tricknology> like what is the listview’s parent view?
Apr 13 06:33:56 <GeekNerd> LOL
Apr 13 06:33:59 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, hmm linearlayout?
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Apr 13 06:34:36 <arjun_> tricknology, oh. So, no other working way to do this?
Apr 13 06:34:38 <tricknology> Demon_Jester: ok np
Apr 13 06:35:08 <tricknology> no just wondering if it was something lke a dialog, I think you’re doing it correctly.
Apr 13 06:35:38 <tricknology> but yeah that item is null
Apr 13 06:35:45 <tricknology> that’s why you can’t log it
Apr 13 06:36:06 <FrancescoV> Hi all I have a FAB in a CoordinatorLayout and I want to animate the fab from the right side to the left. I use layout_gravity="bottom|right". Any advice how I can do this?
Apr 13 06:36:13 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, Its a listview, I mean im sure you noticed that in the code, but I don't think thats the right answer to your question.
Apr 13 06:37:41 <tricknology> Demon_Jester: Its ok
Apr 13 06:37:48 <tricknology> Demon_Jester: check this line: hashedMAC.get(wifilv.getItemAtPosition(position)))
Apr 13 06:38:40 <tricknology> its a bit of a misnomer
Apr 13 06:38:48 <liliboot> https://i.imgsafe.org/525989b.png , why compile with not work
Apr 13 06:39:08 <tricknology> and you’re accessing the listview’s cursor to get the data
Apr 13 06:39:21 <tricknology> try using bashedMAC.get(position)
Apr 13 06:39:31 <liliboot> https://i.imgsafe.org/525989b.png , why compile with not work
Apr 13 06:40:11 <liliboot> please help me
Apr 13 06:40:23 <Demon_Jester> I am not clicking that link.
Apr 13 06:41:30 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, It crashes the app if I remove log because its null. Its unfortunate. Might be impossible to do.
Apr 13 06:41:57 <tricknology> I think it’s the way you are accessing your lisftview, man
Apr 13 06:42:08 <liliboot> are there every body here for help me?
Apr 13 06:42:22 <tricknology> liliboot: I dont use AndroidStudio
Apr 13 06:42:30 <tricknology> liliboot: check Google
Apr 13 06:42:49 <liliboot> this is eclipse
Apr 13 06:43:19 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, thanks for the help.
Apr 13 06:43:51 <liliboot> https://i.imgsafe.org/525989b.png , why compile with not work
Apr 13 06:44:02 <AlexandruM> lilibot : check the error at theme
Apr 13 06:44:13 <tricknology> Demon_Jester: your String is null because the value you are returning from your list is null because you are accessing it incorrectly
Apr 13 06:44:14 <AlexandruM> it shows red X
Apr 13 06:45:22 <tricknology> Demon_Jester: when you set it, there are no items in any position.. on line 24
Apr 13 06:45:43 <tricknology> get a proper list, filter if it you want, then use thatlist.get(potision) and it will work
Apr 13 06:45:47 <liliboot> AlexandruM, where that?
Apr 13 06:45:59 <tricknology> but only if thatlist == the list you use in adapter.notify()
Apr 13 06:46:02 <AlexandruM> in your screenshot, where you have selected the theme Holo Light
Apr 13 06:46:08 <AlexandruM> the left of the dropdown
Apr 13 06:46:09 <tricknology> BEFORE you display the list
Apr 13 06:46:54 <AlexandruM> I think you need to target a higher minimum platform (like kitkat instead of froyo) to be able to use Holo themes
Apr 13 06:47:28 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, I changed it multiple times, all returning null. I mean hashedMac.get(i,...) hashedMac.get(wifis.get(i),...) etc.. all null
Apr 13 06:48:03 <liliboot> AlexandruM, complie with not work
Apr 13 06:48:32 <AlexandruM> your project will not even be created until you fix your errors on creating the project; of course it will not compile
Apr 13 06:48:57 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, i am trying something, it might work.
Apr 13 06:49:00 <liliboot> how solved that?
Apr 13 06:50:00 <AlexandruM> liliboot: target a higher minimum sdk
Apr 13 06:50:31 <AlexandruM> if you don't know how to do that, then I suggest you go through the documentation https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi0k-_ygovMAhUBWxoKHRzPCqcQFggcMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fdeveloper.android.com%2Ftraining%2F&usg=AFQjCNFD4VMSg1J_TGx0rN4ZDSYMeWzfjQ&sig2=yespne9V08IfFZgt3uWzCA&bvm=bv.119408272,d.bGg
Apr 13 06:53:21 <liliboot> https://i.imgsafe.org/92715d0.png
Apr 13 06:55:19 <HunterD> hi!
Apr 13 06:55:38 <thepoosh> HunterD: hi
Apr 13 06:56:58 <HunterD> when using the gradle experimental plugin, inside a lib definition from: model { repositories {  prebuilt(PrebuiltLibraries){ >>>here<<< }  }  }    body, is it possible to specify more than one path for headers.srcDir ?
Apr 13 06:57:12 <HunterD> I used the example from: http://tools.android.com/tech-docs/new-build-system/gradle-experimental
Apr 13 06:57:22 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, making some progress, but it passes all the mac addresses instead of the one I filtered.. I tried adding the wifi that didn't get filtered, and removing it out of the list, but it doesn't seem to work.
Apr 13 06:57:28 <HunterD> but I have 3 paths that I need to include for a speciffic lib to work
Apr 13 06:58:06 <tricknology> it apsses what to what?
Apr 13 06:58:31 <tricknology> to the listview?
Apr 13 06:58:45 <tricknology> set adapter wiht filtered list and notify
Apr 13 07:00:10 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, with this line, I thought I did "dapter = new ArrayAdapter<>(MainActivity.this,android.R.layout.simple_list_item_1,wifis);"
Apr 13 07:00:49 <tricknology> did wifis change after you did that?
Apr 13 07:01:30 <Demon_Jester> no, it never lefted the onReceive method. Its in the nested for loop,
Apr 13 07:01:47 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, ^
Apr 13 07:02:39 <tricknology> ok waht is passing the mac addresses instead of the one you filtered?
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Apr 13 07:03:06 <tricknology> hashedMAC.get(i) ?
Apr 13 07:03:10 <GeekNerd> could it be?........
Apr 13 07:03:12 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, different mac address, that didn't get filtered.
Apr 13 07:03:16 <GeekNerd> I think it is.....
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Apr 13 07:03:28 <tricknology> eh your filter’s problem
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Apr 13 07:04:29 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, I had a feeling comparing against string[]  wasn't good enough.
Apr 13 07:04:38 <HunterD> can headers.srcDir hold more thank one path?
Apr 13 07:04:49 <tricknology> idk waht you’re doing tbh
Apr 13 07:05:31 <GeekNerd> tricknology: me?
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Apr 13 07:14:35 <plorph> if i want to have a text field update periodically, how can I do that? everything seems event based and i need some things to loop
Apr 13 07:17:14 <Ashiren> like stopwatch?
Apr 13 07:17:44 <Ashiren> for example: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/CountDownTimer.html
Apr 13 07:18:50 <sci-fic> hello, what should i pick to download for AVDs from sdk manager ?
Apr 13 07:28:18 <plorph> Ashiren: ah, thats it, thanks!!
Apr 13 07:29:03 <thepoosh> Ashiren: [solved]
Apr 13 07:35:16 <SixDev> Does anyone know what the best way to create an executable with ndk and gradle is?
Apr 13 07:36:16 <Ashiren> um you mean project that uses ndk?
Apr 13 07:37:16 <barq> Use Eclipse
Apr 13 07:37:31 <Ashiren> why not some example https://github.com/jdermont/NdkExample
Apr 13 07:38:31 <Ashiren> it uses android studio
Apr 13 07:39:37 <SixDev> Well, I mean that I want to make an executable in C that I want to be compiled by gradle
Apr 13 07:39:51 <Ashiren> console app for android?
Apr 13 07:39:58 <thepoosh> gradle is a build machine
Apr 13 07:40:02 <SixDev> yeah
Apr 13 07:40:09 <Ashiren> oh
Apr 13 07:40:11 <thepoosh> if you're trying to use it try going to #gradle
Apr 13 07:40:16 <SixDev> I could make it run a custom Android.mk but I do not know if it is the best way
Apr 13 07:40:43 <Bear10> I'm having trouble with google analytics activating demographics, does anyone know if EVERYONE that has the app installed needs to have the latest analytics code? Or with just 1 person it suffices?
Apr 13 07:40:45 <plorph> is it possible to make that countdowntimer not have an end and just use the onTick method?
Apr 13 07:42:27 <Ashiren> you could use also Timer and TimerTask but if i remember they dont work in UI thread
Apr 13 07:42:45 <Ashiren> plorph: you could start() during onFinish()
Apr 13 07:43:27 <plorph> its that simple?
Apr 13 07:43:40 <Ashiren> nothing in this life is simple
Apr 13 07:43:52 <plorph> well ima try it
Apr 13 07:55:20 <min2> tabLayout.newTab().setText("C").setIcon(R.drawable.face_angel) showing horizontal
Apr 13 07:55:31 <min2> how to make vertical
Apr 13 08:07:25 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> min2, sounds more like you want a Spinner, tablayout is only horizontal
Apr 13 08:08:19 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> "TabLayout provides a horizontal layout to display tabs." first line o TabLayout documentation
Apr 13 08:11:57 <sci-fic> hey, why i cant sync my google account to emulator ? i need my contacts on emulator
Apr 13 08:12:37 <p_l> ;21
Apr 13 08:17:44 <min2> Ping_2_Ur_Pong Actually problem is designing tab of tablayout
Apr 13 08:19:07 <min2> when I am using default method of tabLayout.newTab().setText("A").setIcon(R.drawable.face_angel) then its rendering icon and text inside tab in horizontal format i want in vertical
Apr 13 08:19:27 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> sci-fic: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1114052/importing-gmail-contacts-on-android-emulator
Apr 13 08:19:44 <min2> i ahve 4 fixed tabs inside my tablayout.
Apr 13 08:23:49 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> min2: make a custom layout and then use getTabAt(i).setCustomView()
Apr 13 08:23:58 <Ping_2_Ur_Pong> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34313027/how-to-align-icon-with-text-in-tabs-of-tablayout-in-android
Apr 13 08:24:20 <min2> one more condition I dont want to use viewpager
Apr 13 08:39:21 <min2> thanks Ping_2_Ur_Pong for sharing a link
Apr 13 08:39:29 <min2> with custom view it works..
Apr 13 08:39:46 <min2> but why it doesnt work with default
Apr 13 08:40:22 <min2> when they have methods like setText and setIcon on tab
Apr 13 08:48:58 <Bear10> I'm having trouble with google analytics activating demographics, does anyone know if EVERYONE that has the app installed needs to have the latest analytics code? Or with just 1 person it suffices?
Apr 13 08:55:39 <FrancescoV> Hi, I want to create multiple modules, like in house libs for a company. Any advice about how to manage them, one repo / multiple repo's / one big module ...
Apr 13 09:05:02 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, I am not sure if you're afk, but I figured it out. I assign a key,value when I click on item in listview, and add new value if its different than the current.
Apr 13 09:05:48 <tricknology> nice
Apr 13 09:06:21 <tricknology> im still working on the BT comms
Apr 13 09:06:34 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, bt comms? Bittorrent?
Apr 13 09:06:36 <tricknology> I forgot I don thave another Android device here to test haha
Apr 13 09:06:40 <tricknology> bluetooth
Apr 13 09:07:00 <tricknology> I have a slow as hell read/ack coming from this device and I’m trying to call the manufacturer out
Apr 13 09:07:24 <tricknology> but g00s recommended I have my test apps talk to eachother
Apr 13 09:07:32 <tricknology> one is just going to send while the other one acks away
Apr 13 09:07:45 <tricknology> if it’s truely the device I expect this to go by very fast
Apr 13 09:07:57 <tricknology> if it’s my shotty code then I expect to change
Apr 13 09:08:04 <tricknology> to == no*
Apr 13 09:11:21 <Demon_Jester> tricknology, oh god I think I spoke too soon, i have class at 11 am and its 4 am... i should give this a rest.
Apr 13 09:11:28 <tricknology> yeah
Apr 13 09:11:30 <tricknology> take a break haha
Apr 13 09:11:35 <tricknology> also dont miss class
Apr 13 09:11:48 <tricknology> you don’t miss class and I wont miss work
Apr 13 09:11:52 <tricknology> in 2 hours I will be where you are
Apr 13 09:12:03 <tricknology> except have to work 2 hours earlier.. so I am where you are kinda..
Apr 13 09:57:00 <justJanne> Is it intentional that in Android M they made "do not disturb" even worse than in Android L?
Apr 13 09:57:30 <justJanne> I just fucking want to be able to turn the volume for calls and notifications down to zero.
Apr 13 09:57:38 <justJanne> No, I don't want to mute music.
Apr 13 09:57:48 <justJanne> No, I don't want to turn off the notification led
Apr 13 09:58:47 <justJanne> Now I get even users asking me if they can change the volume of the notifications of my app specifically as a workaround.
Apr 13 09:58:57 <justJanne> What kind of brain-dead monkeys are working at Google?
Apr 13 10:00:53 <adq> justJanne, few weeks ago, my mother called me to ask me WTF is this (/) icon in the toolbar
Apr 13 10:01:11 <adq> it was.... the mute thingy, not a bell with a /
Apr 13 10:01:16 <adq> but something like do not park lol
Apr 13 10:01:41 <justJanne> Exactly.
Apr 13 10:01:51 <adq> how ppl can figure out a disc/circle is related to audio oO
Apr 13 10:01:54 <justJanne> And the color of this ring indicates if alarm clock is on or not.
Apr 13 10:01:59 <adq> bell or speaker ok
Apr 13 10:02:04 <justJanne> Yup.
Apr 13 10:02:10 <alphamule> Could be worse:
Apr 13 10:02:14 <alphamule> They could be Mozilla
Apr 13 10:02:22 <adq> lol what did they used?
Apr 13 10:02:29 <alphamule> Users are getting confused, so we removed the volume control
Apr 13 10:02:31 <justJanne> Well, Mozilla still allows me to modify that stuff at least.
Apr 13 10:02:32 <adq> (mozilla discontinued their thing)
Apr 13 10:02:38 <alphamule> They were breaking their speakers
Apr 13 10:02:43 <alphamule> (LOL)
Apr 13 10:02:46 <adq> oO
Apr 13 10:02:52 <justJanne> Well, they just introduced that into Firefox desktop.
Apr 13 10:03:01 <justJanne> Volume control per tab.
Apr 13 10:03:05 <justJanne> Well, a year ago.
Apr 13 10:03:18 <alphamule> I was parodying the discussions on Mozilla's bug trackers.
Apr 13 10:03:32 <justJanne> Another awesome thing, btw, which Android lacks: VOLUME CONTROL PER APP
Apr 13 10:03:52 <adq> that's a bit confusing but an app could implement it
Apr 13 10:03:54 <alphamule> There's one really nice and simple on-screen volume control...
Apr 13 10:04:03 <adq> problem is you still touch the system or media volume
Apr 13 10:04:11 <alphamule> I wonder if you could modify it to also keep track of the current app
Apr 13 10:04:14 <alphamule> That has 'focus'
Apr 13 10:04:17 <adq> which can then change other app volume if not impl properly or if you get killed then you cannot restore it
Apr 13 10:04:24 <justJanne> Well, what if I want to watch a YouTube video muted but listen to a song in the background?
Apr 13 10:04:27 <alphamule> And just keep restoring the volume setting when you alt-tab
Apr 13 10:04:46 <adq> yeah there is also audiofocus, but there are few issues
Apr 13 10:04:52 <adq> like app fighting each other for the token
Apr 13 10:04:52 <justJanne> Say, when doing a presentation, showing a video, but wanting to play a different music.
Apr 13 10:05:15 <adq> let me remember you, since we talk about audio, only ONE instance of the mic is allowed for the whole system!
Apr 13 10:05:20 <alphamule> My idea would only be a workaround that touches the entire volume :/
Apr 13 10:05:24 <adq> 2016 dude (and dudette)
Apr 13 10:05:43 <justJanne> Welcome to Android™
Apr 13 10:05:52 <alphamule> Also, Google thought it was a great idea to explicitely go to the effort of removing the volume control on YT
Apr 13 10:06:03 <guliash> Hi. How to lock emulator's screen? Is there a hotkey?
Apr 13 10:06:12 <guliash> I want to test doze mode
Apr 13 10:06:19 <ktwo> To be honest i like the way it is done, else we end up with having a mixer and "god damn why is this app silent"
Apr 13 10:06:21 <adq> press F-something guliash
Apr 13 10:06:25 <alphamule> No way to set a timer?
Apr 13 10:06:27 <ktwo> on windows it can be frustrating
Apr 13 10:06:27 <alphamule> Sleep?
Apr 13 10:06:30 <adq> it's documented somewhere, i don't remember it, F7 or F11
Apr 13 10:06:57 <guliash> adq: not working
Apr 13 10:07:14 <guliash> nothing from F
Apr 13 10:07:20 <justJanne> Then F23?
Apr 13 10:07:53 <justJanne> (I love old Sony computers which had F13-24, that always confused people so much, lol)
Apr 13 10:07:56 <adq> wow they removed from the doc the shortcut
Apr 13 10:07:59 <adq> it was in http://developer.android.com/tools/help/emulator.html#controlling
Apr 13 10:08:06 <adq> maybe use their new toolbar then?
Apr 13 10:09:05 <guliash> adq: there is no such button in the new toolbar
Apr 13 10:09:17 <adq> it might be different depending on your os, it's still working for me on windows with an avd of android wear
Apr 13 10:09:43 <guliash> adq: I see. I'm using ubuntu
Apr 13 10:09:51 <adq> try genymotion maybe
Apr 13 10:19:01 <StephenS> hello, for this json format http://pastebin.com/TLmhNjrb I access first array with JSONObject json = jsontmp.getJSONObject(0); but I cannot access services with JSONObject json = jsontmp.getJSONObject(1);  further in, I cannot access approvedBool inside services, how come?
Apr 13 10:28:36 <StephenS> any ideas anyone?
Apr 13 10:37:54 <liefer> I have a BluetoothDevice which i have created a connection to using CreateRfcommSocketToServiceRecord(). If i turn off the power of the bluetooth device, i can correctly detect that socket.IsConnected is false. However, depite me reconnecting and verifying that IsConnected is true, i am unable to successfully send/receive data
Apr 13 10:38:37 <liefer> Do i need to get a new instance of BluetoothDevice in this situation? I would have assumed that my old instance would be okay, since the MAC should obviously not have changed....?
Apr 13 10:40:09 <liefer> Actually... ignore me. I need to check something in the datasheet before asking this
Apr 13 11:26:55 <min2> How to set the divider between Tabs in TabLayout of design support library?
Apr 13 11:59:20 <wyoung> hi
Apr 13 12:08:09 <thepoosh> wyoung: hi
Apr 13 12:08:27 <thepoosh> Ashiren: have I told you how much I hate google (not android) documentation?
Apr 13 12:09:16 <Ashiren> no but i feel you
Apr 13 12:09:48 <thepoosh> reading through their dev console website
Apr 13 12:09:52 <thepoosh> i want to kill myself
Apr 13 12:10:11 <thepoosh> wondering if that's how people experience d.android.com/training
Apr 13 12:10:14 <thepoosh> and if so
Apr 13 12:10:22 <thepoosh> i'm fine cause i now have job security
Apr 13 12:12:37 <StephenS> whats the method/activity in android, where I can check every second if something occurred or that some condition became true?
Apr 13 12:16:04 <StephenS> ?
Apr 13 12:24:31 <markyosullivan> Can anyone explain how I can get around this error: PreferenceFragment cannot be cast to android.support.v4.app.Fragment
Apr 13 12:32:37 <ktwo> markyosullivan, dont mix, always use v4
Apr 13 12:32:46 <ktwo> check all imports
Apr 13 13:02:17 <Napalm> https://www.genymotion.com/cloud/
Apr 13 13:02:19 <Napalm> yasy
Apr 13 13:02:21 <Napalm> yay
Apr 13 13:11:49 <markyosullivan> ktwo: Just realised that I didn't need to use v4
Apr 13 13:15:40 <misterli> .j
Apr 13 13:26:09 <Hessesian> lads, is there any good book for android software architecture ?
Apr 13 13:26:13 <Hessesian> or java architecture
Apr 13 13:26:24 <Hessesian> or something software architecture
Apr 13 14:02:54 <min2> tabLayout paddingTop and paddingBottom not being removed
Apr 13 14:03:09 <min2> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/34915914/android-tablayout-tabpaddingtop-and-tabpaddingbottom-not-being-removed
Apr 13 14:06:14 <Rapitivo> have anyone worked with the WebkitCookieManagerProxy Class? I'm trying to convert android.webkit.CookieManager to java.net.CookieManager.
Apr 13 14:10:52 <rsadam>  Hi android-dev, I'm trying to use the webkitspeechrecognition API within an android webview, however it doesn't seem to be supported ( I get an error when trying to create the object). What's the best way to add this functionality?
Apr 13 14:19:34 <dunpeal> Hi there. I need to test a native mobile app, but I don't want to purchase a phone especially for that purpose. Is there some sort of emulator that would work on a desktop?
Apr 13 14:20:14 <adq> dunpeal, http://developer.android.com/tools/devices/emulator.html or genymotion or visual studio emulator
Apr 13 14:20:23 <dunpeal> adq: thanks.
Apr 13 14:20:24 <rsadam> Have you tried Android Studio? (developer.android.com/tools/studio/index.html)
Apr 13 14:21:17 <dunpeal> rsadam: no, I'll check it out, thanks!
Apr 13 14:24:38 <mflow> Can I use Google Cloud Messaging without my own server if I want to send a notification from a device to another?
Apr 13 14:24:59 <mflow> Assuming I know the push notification token of the second device on the first device
Apr 13 14:26:19 <dunpeal> adq: looks like this official Android emulator depends on Android Studio, so either way I'll have to install android studio
Apr 13 14:27:56 <Zharf> I don't see the dependency, or maybe they're deprecating avd manager, but even so you can start the emulator easily without AS
Apr 13 14:30:12 <Number5> Hello guys, what's the best way to handle asynctask if the fragment/activity hosting it is destroyed? I know in Fragment you can call isVisible() to decide whether to show the result or not. I can also use a headless Fragment to keep the asynctask. But is there a better and cleaner solution?
Apr 13 14:30:47 * Zharf just doesn't do asynctasks
Apr 13 14:32:05 <Number5> Zharf, well I need AsyncTask for asynchronous process.
Apr 13 14:32:44 <Number5> In my case, handling database queries.
Apr 13 14:32:46 <Zharf> no you don't, asynctask is just glue to make it "nice" but is actually giving you more problems without warning about them
Apr 13 14:33:20 <Number5> Zharf, what do you suggest than? Creating my own class using Thread?
Apr 13 14:34:28 <Zharf> ExecutorService and EventBus for callbacks to the ui if you want them
Apr 13 14:35:50 <Number5> Zharf, I've read about them some time ago, but looks like overkill to just do simple queries. But if you say so...
Apr 13 14:36:29 <Zharf> Number5, asynctask is run on an executorservice
Apr 13 14:36:38 <Zharf> it's just made to look like something else
Apr 13 14:36:54 <missingno> loaders
Apr 13 14:36:55 <Number5> Zharf, thnx I'll take a look at it :)
Apr 13 14:37:01 <missingno> ok I feel dirty for saying the word loader
Apr 13 14:37:03 <Zharf> yeah, loaders might be applicable
Apr 13 14:37:12 <Number5> I'm also looking at these: https://android-arsenal.com/tag/9
Apr 13 14:37:14 <Zharf> but I haven't really used them much myself
Apr 13 14:37:56 <Zharf> Number5, you can callback to the ui thread from an abitrary thread using eventbus
Apr 13 14:39:14 <Number5> Zharf, ok thnx buddy ;)
Apr 13 14:41:46 <Number5> Zharf, this looks nice too: https://github.com/mthli/SugarTask
Apr 13 14:42:38 <Number5> Actually that's what I was looking for, perform a background task and don't care about what happens is you leave fragment or activity.
Apr 13 14:45:27 <Number5> Zharf, RxAndroid sounds cool too, has at least a lot of forks 3000+
Apr 13 14:46:04 <JakeWharton> Stars
Apr 13 14:46:10 <Zharf> Number5, if you want to go with rx, yes, absolutely...
Apr 13 14:46:53 <Number5> JakeWharton, 1000+ forks and 6000+ stars :)
Apr 13 14:49:05 <Number5> JakeWharton, I'm sorry, didn't know you were the author. But thank you very much for sharing this great library.
Apr 13 14:52:32 <JakeWharton> It's not all me. Many others contribute
Apr 13 14:57:53 <markyosullivan> RxAndroid? I thought there was just RxJava
Apr 13 14:58:10 <truckcrash> no there is rxandroid too
Apr 13 15:00:17 <markyosullivan> I need to look into RxAndroid
Apr 13 15:00:33 <markyosullivan> and RxJava
Apr 13 15:01:24 <markyosullivan> Zharf: You talking about AsyncTasks has made me a little bit nervous
Apr 13 15:01:47 <pfn> asynctask is fine, it's just not composable
Apr 13 15:01:52 <markyosullivan> Zharf: "asynctask is just glue to make it "nice" but is actually giving you more problems without warning about them" what problems do you get?
Apr 13 15:02:09 <markyosullivan> pfn is RxAndroid what people should use instead?
Apr 13 15:02:24 <pfn> depends on what you need
Apr 13 15:02:36 <pfn> as is the case with everything
Apr 13 15:03:47 <markyosullivan> I've always been confused by what RxJava was for, "asynchronous and event-based programs", so could it essentially replace an AsyncTask which processes something in another thread when there's too much memory being used in the main thread?
Apr 13 15:04:10 <markyosullivan> I used an AsyncTask to help me with that issue
Apr 13 15:04:15 <truckcrash> ...threads share memory
Apr 13 15:05:09 <markyosullivan> I thought it was too much memory usage which caused the "Skipped x frames!  The application may be doing too much work on its main thread." issue?
Apr 13 15:06:05 <truckcrash> no, that is doing too much work on the processor
Apr 13 15:06:10 <truckcrash> too much computation, not memory
Apr 13 15:06:57 <markyosullivan> Ah
Apr 13 15:07:22 <markyosullivan> Noted that down, thanks for letting me know :)
Apr 13 15:07:27 <markyosullivan> I'll know that for next time
Apr 13 15:07:47 <truckcrash> no prob
Apr 13 15:08:04 <markyosullivan> So if I use the CPU monitor in Android Studio, I'll see it using too much CPU?
Apr 13 15:08:30 <truckcrash> correct
Apr 13 15:08:46 <Zharf> markyosullivan, most common problems with misused asynctasks is leaked activity/fragment instances
Apr 13 15:09:34 <markyosullivan> Zharf: What do you mean?
Apr 13 15:09:39 <Zharf> I spent a couple of weeks trying to fix an app that spawned a lot of asynctasks, leaked all the fragments which then caused more asynctasks to be run when I rotated the screen
Apr 13 15:09:41 <markyosullivan> The activities / fragments aren't destroyed?
Apr 13 15:09:48 <markyosullivan> :|
Apr 13 15:10:00 <markyosullivan> Okay now I'm scared
Apr 13 15:10:04 <Zharf> eventually it ran so many asynctasks that asynctasks executor threw an exception
Apr 13 15:10:06 <truckcrash> If thre is a reference to them, garbage collection will not clean them up
Apr 13 15:10:23 <markyosullivan> If there is a reference to them in another class?
Apr 13 15:10:30 <truckcrash> async tasks can hold these references
Apr 13 15:10:40 <markyosullivan> I only refer to the async tasks within the classes which they are called
Apr 13 15:12:10 <IrishGringo> to create a step by step wizard with fragments...   whats the best solution, strategy?  I am looking at WizardPag right now... but are there better solutions?
Apr 13 15:12:26 <pfn> memory leaks are the smallest issue with asynctask
Apr 13 15:12:42 <truckcrash> The worry is not a reference from the activity to the async task, but the async task to an activity. You leave the activity in your ui, and it is "destroyed", but the async task still holds a reference to the activity so it cannot be GC'd and you cannot access it any more (you left that ui page)
Apr 13 15:12:42 <markyosullivan> pfn: What's the other issues?
Apr 13 15:12:57 <pfn> lifecycle and composition
Apr 13 15:13:31 <markyosullivan> truckcrash: How can I track the AsyncTask?
Apr 13 15:13:47 <markyosullivan> pfn: How so? Lifecycle as in the AsyncTask never dies?
Apr 13 15:15:27 <Zharf> asynctask dies soon after doInBackground returns, but if you take a long time in there and don't handle cancellation properly, you might have "rogue" tasks running around
Apr 13 15:15:53 <Zharf> (soon after because it also runs onPostExecute or onCancelled after it)
Apr 13 15:16:35 <truckcrash> ^^ what Zharf said
Apr 13 15:17:11 <Zharf> the documentation isn't clear that you need to handle cancellation (and call cancel when needed)
Apr 13 15:17:26 <Zharf> asynctask runs in the bounds of a java thread and you can't just cancel a java thread
Apr 13 15:17:35 <Zharf> you can tell one that "hey, please stop what you're doing"
Apr 13 15:17:43 <Zharf> but if it doesn't want to, it doesn't have to
Apr 13 15:18:31 <Zharf> and so if you hold a reference to fragment/activity that's supposed to be destroyed, it won't be until the asynctask decides that it's time to die
Apr 13 15:18:49 <Zharf> and I was supposed to get off work half an hour ago
Apr 13 15:19:22 <truckcrash> Zharf, european?
Apr 13 15:19:26 <Zharf> yeah
Apr 13 15:19:32 <truckcrash> cool
Apr 13 15:19:40 <Zharf> it's 20 past 6
Apr 13 15:20:06 <truckcrash> that's 9 hours ahead of me
Apr 13 15:20:30 <trudev_> why does it take gradle ~4 min to build and run my app? is there some option to make this faster?
Apr 13 15:20:51 <trudev_> i'm using android studio 2.0 if that makes a difference
Apr 13 15:20:56 <richa_> trudev_ using AS 2.0?
Apr 13 15:21:00 <richa_> ah, yep ;)
Apr 13 15:21:38 <markyosullivan> Zharf: So how do you kill AsyncTasks?
Apr 13 15:21:51 <trudev_> richa_ is there some way to speed it up?
Apr 13 15:22:45 <richa_> you can increase the mem parameters in gradle to give it more room to manouver early on
Apr 13 15:23:14 <trudev_> lol https://www.dropbox.com/s/v4uuxy74r3sbjnb/Screenshot%202016-04-13%2011.23.09.png?dl=0
Apr 13 15:23:24 <Zharf> markyosullivan, call cancel and have periodic checks for isCancelled in doInBackground, catching InterruptedException might also be advisable, depending on what you're doing
Apr 13 15:24:01 <trudev_> richa_ i'll try that, thanks
Apr 13 15:24:16 <richa_> ultimately, gradle does a lot of disk io
Apr 13 15:24:30 <trudev_> i also tried the offline mode thing
Apr 13 15:24:35 <trudev_> didn't help
Apr 13 15:24:39 <richa_> so either get an ssd in your build box or try performing your build on a ram disk
Apr 13 15:24:52 <trudev_> i am using an ssd tho
Apr 13 15:24:56 <richa_> woah
Apr 13 15:25:03 <richa_> wasnt expecting you to say that
Apr 13 15:25:06 <richa_> how big if your app?
Apr 13 15:25:13 <Zharf> markyosullivan, if the task hasn't started running yet, then it just won't run because you called cancel, but if it's currently running then the task needs to realise that it's been cancelled (some things throw interruptedexception if they're waiting on something so that helps) by polling isCancelled
Apr 13 15:26:10 <trudev_> richa_ not sure how to check
Apr 13 15:26:43 <markyosullivan> Zharf: So you'd call cancel like this: new FirebaseTasks().cancel();
Apr 13 15:26:52 <markyosullivan> Can you not cancel it onPostExecute()?
Apr 13 15:27:11 <pfn> think about it
Apr 13 15:27:15 <trudev_> just took over this project
Apr 13 15:27:21 <pfn> post execute is already done
Apr 13 15:27:41 <pfn> trudev_, size of apk, lines of code, number of libraries are common metrics
Apr 13 15:27:59 <markyosullivan> what you mean post execute is already done?
Apr 13 15:28:01 <Zharf> markyosullivan, you need to call cancel on the asynctask instance that's already been created and called execute() on
Apr 13 15:28:18 <richa_> truedev_ find the dev summit video that the android boffins did on the Tools side of things
Apr 13 15:28:20 <Zharf> so you need to keep the reference to the task so that you can do that
Apr 13 15:28:34 <pfn> markyosullivan, read the docs
Apr 13 15:28:35 <richa_> they have some fairly impressive performance improvements on gradle builds they demonstrated
Apr 13 15:28:41 <richa_> whether or not they cooked the numbers, i'm not sure
Apr 13 15:28:44 <markyosullivan> Zharf: new FirebaseTasks().execute(); - I'm guessing I'm creating a new instance every time then?
Apr 13 15:28:48 <richa_> but I remember them detailing the changes that they made to the project
Apr 13 15:29:40 <markyosullivan> pfn: yeah but if you call execute, it does doInBackground() and once it's finished that it calls postExecute() which allows you to do stuff with the UI thread again?
Apr 13 15:30:21 <trudev_> richa_ pfn not that many libs. apk is like 10 mb
Apr 13 15:30:23 <markyosullivan> which is why I would have thought you could have cancelled it within the postExecute() method
Apr 13 15:30:29 <pfn> markyosullivan, what would be the point of calling cancel at that point
Apr 13 15:30:40 <pfn> and it's a good thing I don't use gradle, pos
Apr 13 15:30:48 <markyosullivan> to kill off the AsyncTask?
Apr 13 15:31:12 <trudev_> i don't have that much android experience.. is this normal for building?
Apr 13 15:31:19 <markyosullivan> I thought that was the issue, where the AsyncTask process would continue to run after doInBackground() had finished?
Apr 13 15:31:32 <richa_> 6 minutes is a long time for a 10mb app, there is something under the surface there
Apr 13 15:31:43 <markyosullivan> richa_: Do you have an SSD?
Apr 13 15:32:02 <richa_> markyosullivan yes I saw a great increase in gradle performance, as to be expected.
Apr 13 15:32:04 <markyosullivan> I've found long build times on my laptop which doesn't have an SSD
Apr 13 15:32:57 <richa_> going out and buying an ssd shouldn't be your first port of call for a quicker build though
Apr 13 15:33:25 <pfn> ssd is the #1 performance improvement for computing
Apr 13 15:33:30 <trudev_> im using a rmbp with 16gigs of ram lol
Apr 13 15:33:38 <trudev_> i hate this
Apr 13 15:33:45 <pfn> gradle is a pos
Apr 13 15:33:47 <pfn> that's why it's so slow
Apr 13 15:35:20 <trudev_> how do you guys dev like this? I'm comming from building on iOS
Apr 13 15:35:28 <trudev_> the simulator also sucks
Apr 13 15:37:05 <Zharf> android builds aren't slow, just gradle is
Apr 13 15:38:03 <Zharf> we have around 30 devices to develop our app with, so we don't use emulators :p
Apr 13 15:38:20 <richa_> trudev_ we have a 10mb(ish) application which i've just build now in under 9 seconds, so something must be really really wrong with your project
Apr 13 15:39:24 <Zharf> meh, our project at work also takes about 3.5 minutes to build (clean, 30-90s incremental)
Apr 13 15:39:57 <richa_> trudev_ this is the video I was talking about
Apr 13 15:39:58 <richa_> https://youtu.be/fs0eira2pRY?t=172
Apr 13 15:40:20 <Zharf> gradle takes around 70% of the time in transform dex task or something
Apr 13 15:40:34 <trudev_> richa_ thanks i'll check that out
Apr 13 15:40:55 <trudev_> how many dependencies tho? and what version of gradle?
Apr 13 15:40:57 <thepoosh> Zharf: do you have a flavor for fastBuilds?
Apr 13 15:41:07 <thepoosh> minSdk 21
Apr 13 15:41:11 <richa_> funny, dexing is the first thing on Xavier talks about :P
Apr 13 15:41:19 <pfn> that's what jack is supposed to address
Apr 13 15:41:24 <pfn> it's failing miserably at the moment
Apr 13 15:41:31 <Zharf> we have minsdk 15
Apr 13 15:41:44 <pfn> Zharf, for development, should set minSdk 21
Apr 13 15:41:48 <pfn> speeds up dex dramatically
Apr 13 15:41:51 <pfn> for incremental builds
Apr 13 15:42:10 <Zharf> I don't use AS though, not sure if IDEA supports that
Apr 13 15:42:12 * pfn just uses protify and problem solved
Apr 13 15:42:16 <pfn> Zharf, it does
Apr 13 15:42:17 <thepoosh> that's what I said!!!
Apr 13 15:42:20 <Zharf> I'll try tomorrow
Apr 13 15:42:27 <pfn> protify = 3 second rebuilds  :P
Apr 13 15:42:45 * pfn needs to figure out how to fragment resources
Apr 13 15:42:56 <pfn> then it'll be fast for all situations, not just code changes (if resources are huge)
Apr 13 15:42:56 <thepoosh> pfn: fragment?
Apr 13 15:43:03 <pfn> thepoosh, segment, break apart
Apr 13 15:43:06 <thepoosh> oh
Apr 13 15:43:18 <thepoosh> refactoring will make you a happier man
Apr 13 15:43:27 <pfn> I guess I should use the same term I use for dex: sharding resources
Apr 13 15:43:36 <pfn> I break all of my dex files into 3000 method shards
Apr 13 15:43:41 <Zharf> I don't think the team would be happy to move to sbt based builds though
Apr 13 15:43:47 <pfn> Zharf, there's no move
Apr 13 15:43:53 <pfn> Zharf, it can be done on a personal level with 0 effort as well
Apr 13 15:43:58 <pfn> android-gradle-build imports gradle builds automatically
Apr 13 15:44:04 <thepoosh> pfn: is your source code modular enough to clearly shard?
Apr 13 15:44:10 <pfn> thepoosh, doesn't matter
Apr 13 15:44:23 <pfn> modularity of code is unrelated to sharding
Apr 13 15:44:34 <thepoosh> loading time for dex files does
Apr 13 15:44:34 <Zharf> well, I'll get back to yoy on that tomorrow
Apr 13 15:44:49 <thepoosh> you want to keep them closely packaged
Apr 13 15:45:04 <pfn> https://github.com/pfn/android-sdk-plugin/blob/master/src/proguard.scala#L257-L335
Apr 13 15:45:14 <pfn> loading time for dex is irrelevant for development
Apr 13 15:45:25 <pfn> faster than any other solution
Apr 13 15:45:28 <pfn> including instant run
Apr 13 15:45:34 <pfn> (and works more reliably)
Apr 13 15:46:18 <thepoosh> love seeing 1304 errors in a build
Apr 13 15:46:20 <thepoosh> :S
Apr 13 15:47:39 <pfn> better than being something like javascript and not knowing where the errors are until you run
Apr 13 15:47:44 <pfn> and have to run 1304 times to find them all
Apr 13 15:47:56 <thepoosh> true dat
Apr 13 15:48:04 <thepoosh> our backend is written in node
Apr 13 15:48:07 <thepoosh> fanboyz
Apr 13 15:48:08 <pfn> lol
Apr 13 15:48:12 <pfn> nubs
Apr 13 15:48:24 <thepoosh> oh hi g00s
Apr 13 15:48:33 <thepoosh> pfn: it was all the rage when they started
Apr 13 15:48:34 <richa_> g00s \o
Apr 13 15:48:41 <g00s> hey thepoosh richa_
Apr 13 15:49:01 <pfn> thepoosh, do they regret it? I assume not, javascript fanboys are fans no matter what
Apr 13 15:49:09 <pfn> then again, you can run typescript and purescript and such on node...
Apr 13 15:49:15 <pfn> scala.js even
Apr 13 15:49:18 <thepoosh> pfn: there are many times they very much regret it
Apr 13 15:49:26 <thepoosh> but they learned to overcome the issues
Apr 13 15:49:37 <thepoosh> coming from poor design that is so easy to do in js
Apr 13 15:49:46 <pfn> years of javascript have really bummed me out about any web dev
Apr 13 15:50:10 <thepoosh> well, I learned to like functional programming a bit
Apr 13 15:50:19 <thepoosh> but I prefer C-like and Java
Apr 13 15:50:59 * pfn twiddles thumbs while test suite runs
Apr 13 15:51:05 <pfn> I really should setup travis some day
Apr 13 15:53:27 <explodes> test
Apr 13 15:53:30 <explodes> mm
Apr 13 15:54:15 * pfn has about 30 test projects and it takes about 10-15 minutes to run through the entire suite  :(
Apr 13 15:54:19 <richa_> mmmmm
Apr 13 15:55:11 <TheEskil> Hey. I have an ImageView that I want to utilize. In my drawables folder I have several PNGs I need to programmatically set to my imageView based on various criteria. One is named 03n.17.png The R.drawable does not like that it starts with a digit, so I renamed all my files to "w03n.17" etc. The 03n.17-part is a String I have available. Is there a smart way to do this?
Apr 13 15:55:32 <pfn> no
Apr 13 15:55:48 <pfn> you can reflect over the fields in R.drawable
Apr 13 15:56:04 <Zharf> or build a map
Apr 13 15:56:12 <richa_> R. tags containing full stops??
Apr 13 15:56:39 <TheEskil> Ideally I would like to skip the R.drawable and just provide the filename itself, but I don't know if that's possible or a good way to go about it
Apr 13 15:56:59 <pfn> why would you provide the filename itself
Apr 13 15:57:01 <pfn> use assets
Apr 13 15:57:15 <pfn> or Resources.getIdentifier
Apr 13 15:59:19 <TheEskil> That looks like a winner
Apr 13 16:02:42 <Zharf> just be sure to cache the results of getIdentifier, especially if you do it a lot
Apr 13 16:18:35 <g00s> wow vim 8 soon
Apr 13 16:19:18 <g00s> looks like they are fixing that async i/o and plugin mess
Apr 13 16:20:35 <thepoosh> g00s: vim 8?
Apr 13 16:20:53 <thepoosh> is that not deprecated yet as a bad program?
Apr 13 16:21:03 * thepoosh started a holy war
Apr 13 16:21:26 <g00s> i use it to write my git commit messages :P
Apr 13 16:22:03 <thepoosh> well, yeah
Apr 13 16:22:12 <thepoosh> because Fing Linus
Apr 13 16:22:14 <wyoung> hihi
Apr 13 16:22:34 <wyoung> Linus <3
Apr 13 16:23:05 <thepoosh> if there is a douchebag programmer anywhere, it's him
Apr 13 16:23:08 <thepoosh> and pfn
Apr 13 16:23:13 <thepoosh> :P
Apr 13 16:27:06 <eghdk> I'm over the 64k method limit, I added the multidex true to my build.gradle along with the compile 'com.android.support:multidex:1.0.0'. My target is api 14. Is this all I have to do to make sure multidex works without issue?
Apr 13 16:27:35 <richa_> does multidex work with such a low api target?!
Apr 13 16:30:20 <adq> well thepoosh, on the contrary of plenty IDE/editors, especially including AS, vim is stable and not buggy
Apr 13 16:30:36 <adq> and got features not even yet introduced in AS like 20 years ago
Apr 13 16:30:43 <adq> so please, respect vim :))
Apr 13 16:31:16 <thepoosh> adq: real programmers use butterflies
Apr 13 16:31:17 <thepoosh> https://xkcd.com/378/
Apr 13 16:31:29 <adq> :')
Apr 13 16:31:34 <adq> you heard about spacemacs?
Apr 13 16:31:40 <adq> spacemacs.org <
Apr 13 16:32:10 <g00s> i notice AS 2.0 still doesn't save any changes I make to Preferences > Editor > Code & Style > XML
Apr 13 16:32:41 <adq> g00s, did you check your perm, i remember when you talked about this issue
Apr 13 16:32:56 <adq> or check the logs maybe
Apr 13 16:33:19 <g00s> yeah i'll look, every other pref is OK its just that damn thing
Apr 13 16:34:10 <thepoosh> adq: I don't vim or emacs
Apr 13 16:34:15 <thepoosh> i AS bitch!
Apr 13 16:34:20 <thepoosh> or sublime
Apr 13 16:34:34 <adq> :))
Apr 13 16:34:44 <g00s> i use all of them but suck at emacs
Apr 13 16:34:46 <wyoung> just use idea :)
Apr 13 16:34:50 <g00s> vim, emacs, atom :D
Apr 13 16:34:52 <adq> i use AS most of the times for android stuff
Apr 13 16:34:57 <wyoung> pycharm or android studio imo
Apr 13 16:35:27 <wyoung> vim and emacs pale against nano :P
Apr 13 16:36:39 <wyoung> The only console text editor to give you commands / help on screen without knowing the secret handshake
Apr 13 16:37:27 <g00s> adq seems AS 2.1.0 beta update or something
Apr 13 16:37:33 <eghdk> Since enabling multidex my builds seem to take FOREVER. Any way to speed this up? Could've sworn there was a build.gradle option or something.
Apr 13 16:37:49 <Leeds> vim4life
Apr 13 16:37:55 <adq> eghdk, makes more modules
Apr 13 16:38:02 <pfn> eghdk, min sdk 21
Apr 13 16:38:25 <g00s> i thought that trick wasn't needed any more - didn't xav say so a while back ?
Apr 13 16:38:45 * g00s avoids multidex hahahaha
Apr 13 16:38:49 <adq> i do too
Apr 13 16:38:54 <adq> proguard ftw
Apr 13 16:39:12 <wyoung> proguard <3
Apr 13 16:39:14 * g00s avoids proguard hahahaha
Apr 13 16:39:19 <eghdk> Xav mentioned something in some video about speeding up multidex, and I think the solution by pfn was what was recommended.
Apr 13 16:39:26 <adq> i heard they released redex today or something
Apr 13 16:39:28 <wyoung> the only process that can break my app beside my poor programming skills
Apr 13 16:39:34 <adq> already a couple of critical issues lol
Apr 13 16:39:40 <g00s> adq thats only if your app doesn't scale !
Apr 13 16:39:40 <pfn> g00s, uh, how would it not be needed
Apr 13 16:40:01 <adq> wyoung, and samsung!
Apr 13 16:40:13 <g00s> i thought xavmentioned the minSdk workaround in the video and said they will do something automatically soon
Apr 13 16:40:27 <g00s> but that was like, 6 mos ago at least
Apr 13 16:41:45 <g00s> can't remember now if it was the last i/o or the dev summit
Apr 13 16:41:53 <pfn> there's nothing that can be done automatically
Apr 13 16:41:56 <pfn> unless they mean instant run
Apr 13 16:42:01 <pfn> that is the only solution possible pre-21
Apr 13 16:43:07 <eghdk> pfn: Maybe the fact that they ask you to pick a device to laucnh on before it builds/deploys? Maybe if I choose a 21 and up device it'll know what to do.
Apr 13 16:43:36 <pfn> doubt it
Apr 13 16:43:42 <pfn> possible, but doubt it
Apr 13 16:45:05 <eghdk> pfn: I know at dev summit they mentioned that if you pick a XXHDPI device, then it won't waste time packing in all the other assets (in AS 2.0)
Apr 13 16:46:21 <pfn> that's an interesting optimization
Apr 13 16:54:09 <perlsyntax> Hi does anyone know why there no google play console support online for 2 days?
Apr 13 17:00:31 <perlsyntax> ?
Apr 13 17:16:21 <truckcrash> Has there been any confirmation that there will be a dev summit this year?
Apr 13 17:23:36 <adq> truckcrash, io
Apr 13 17:24:04 <truckcrash> adq, io what? They are expected to annouce something then?
Apr 13 17:31:38 <eghdk> Is there any way to get an open file in AS, right click the tab of the java file, and show it in the file tree on the left?
Apr 13 17:31:54 <eghdk> Super annoying to search for a file in the project tree when I have it open right there.
Apr 13 17:32:15 <codepete> so I’ve got a ViewPager with fragments that have their own toolbar. The toolbar shows up and so does the back arrow; however, on the very first page hitting on the back arrow does nothing. Is this by design? I just want the user to be able to go back to the parent activity thats set in the manifest.
Apr 13 17:34:39 <adq> AS 2.1 beta in canary channel
Apr 13 17:35:31 <eghdk> codepete: Do you have the setHomeAsUpButtonEnabled(true) or whatever?
Apr 13 17:36:18 <codepete>  eghdk Yup.
Apr 13 17:36:28 <adq> truckcrash, you asked "Has there been any confirmation that there will be a dev summit this year?", there is I/O like every year -> https://events.google.com/io2016/
Apr 13 17:37:21 <adq> eghdk, yes you have autoscroll to source and autoscroll from source
Apr 13 17:37:33 <adq> it's also annoying too, you will see
Apr 13 17:38:52 <eghdk> adq: where is that option?
Apr 13 17:39:21 <adq> in your project file browser view, you have a setting icon
Apr 13 17:40:15 <eghdk> adq: Aha. Thanks. That's helpful.
Apr 13 17:41:30 <adq> http://android-developers.blogspot.fr/2016/04/android-n-developer-preview-2-out-today.html
Apr 13 17:42:13 <markyosullivan> I hope they have something big at I/O, them revealing N earlier was cool but it's one thing to look forward to at every I/O
Apr 13 17:42:37 <codepete> eghdk: I even tried onOptionItemSelected to see if it triggers it, but it doesn’t at all. The back arrow in my toolbar for my view pager only works on pages after the first.
Apr 13 17:43:12 <Leeds> markyosullivan: switching to swift
Apr 13 17:43:13 <g00s> adq preview 2 has Vulkan
Apr 13 17:43:27 <g00s> Leeds ha !
Apr 13 17:43:47 <g00s> the most revolutionary thing google could do with android right now is timely updates
Apr 13 17:43:59 <g00s> across all carriers / devices
Apr 13 17:44:01 <adq> it's planned i believe
Apr 13 17:44:35 <Leeds> eh, maybe they're not going to concentrate too much on Android this year, mainly focus on cloud and april fools support
Apr 13 17:45:00 <adq> :')
Apr 13 17:47:12 <codepete> Anyone else have any ideas why the home button doesnt work on the first page of a viewpager? Each of my fragments has a toolbar and I set it as the support action bar and it shows up. When I click it on the first page though it doesn’t trigger onOptionItemSelected. Only the pages after does it work.
Apr 13 17:56:08 <truckcrash> adq, Ah, I see. I was asking about the android dev summit event in particular (the one they held last November) IO is nice, but there was a lot of interesting android focused content that came out of the dev summit
Apr 13 18:02:00 <mikedg> are there any vr irc channels
Apr 13 18:02:37 <pfn> mikedg has wants to play hackers
Apr 13 18:02:42 <g00s> mikedg you're still alive !
Apr 13 18:02:49 <pfn> s/has//
Apr 13 18:02:50 <mikedg> i am!
Apr 13 18:03:05 <mikedg> i have been hibernating
Apr 13 18:03:06 <pfn> no he's not, he's the ghost in the machine
Apr 13 18:03:09 <pfn> lawnmower man
Apr 13 18:05:36 <mikedg> lol
Apr 13 18:19:30 <DragonPunch> Hello
Apr 13 18:20:07 <tricknology> allo
Apr 13 18:20:12 <tricknology> @G00s, you here?
Apr 13 18:20:17 <tricknology> g00s: ^
Apr 13 18:20:41 <g00s> hey tricknology
Apr 13 18:21:04 <tricknology> fianlyl finished the Android<—BT—>Android test..
Apr 13 18:21:19 <g00s> how did it go ?
Apr 13 18:21:50 <tricknology> running it right now
Apr 13 18:21:51 <tricknology> hahahaha
Apr 13 18:22:02 <tricknology> I connected them both up as receiver and they’re ackign back and forth like crazy
Apr 13 18:22:10 <g00s> :D
Apr 13 18:22:40 <g00s> so then it seems your peripheral is slow to write that chunk maybe
Apr 13 18:23:13 <tricknology> wel remember I said thigns liek 2K are faster than 16, so I’m guessing a 5 byte ack isnt going to tell me much
Apr 13 18:23:32 <tricknology> is tehre a classy way to debug 2 devices at once?
Apr 13 18:23:37 <trudev> ok, so i got "instant run" to work but it still takes ~1 min for the changes to apply :/
Apr 13 18:23:47 <tricknology> (without having 2 computers, that’s the bougie way)
Apr 13 18:24:03 <g00s> tricknology instant run is like instance rice ... instant but not really instant :D
Apr 13 18:24:08 <g00s> oops trudev ^
Apr 13 18:24:16 <g00s> tr_ autcomplete ftl
Apr 13 18:24:24 <trudev> lol
Apr 13 18:24:25 <adq> tricknology, adb over wifi
Apr 13 18:25:30 <g00s> tricknology probably the right way to do this , with lots of money, is to have some kind of protocol analyzer for BT set up
Apr 13 18:25:38 <Rapitivo> have someone used the WebkitCookieManagerProxy Class? I'm trying to "convert" android.webkit.CookieManager to java.net.CookieManager.
Apr 13 18:26:45 <tricknology> well hell we should have some portion of a EE lab anyway with all the hardware..
Apr 13 18:28:20 <tricknology> but when ever has “boss we need more stuff” ever worked?
Apr 13 18:28:32 <tricknology> - an ever
Apr 13 18:30:44 <g00s> well, do research on gear you need and present the costs
Apr 13 18:31:02 <g00s> show that you put effort into tradeoffs of different options
Apr 13 18:31:11 <g00s> cost justify baby !
Apr 13 18:31:42 <g00s> 1 week with you putzing around this one issue probably covers some gear :)
Apr 13 18:36:09 <Twirl> anyone knows what's the meaning of the new green background in the java modules in AS 2.0?
Apr 13 18:42:18 <Twirl> oh i guess it's for test code
Apr 13 18:42:28 <g00s> "Android N Developer Preview 2, out today!"
Apr 13 18:42:35 <g00s> wake me up when it has 10% market share
Apr 13 18:43:17 <Artichokeslam> good luck, rip van winkle
Apr 13 18:43:25 <Artichokeslam> i'll wake you in 2022
Apr 13 18:43:53 <g00s> heh
Apr 13 18:43:58 <Renarii> Is it possible to show the ticker text/icon for a notification and then show a different icon for the notification once the ticker text is finished or do those icons have to be the same?
Apr 13 18:44:34 <Twirl> dafuq is android N developer
Apr 13 18:44:36 <Artichokeslam> ticker?
Apr 13 18:44:59 <Artichokeslam> it's the developer build of the successor to Marshmallow, just known as N for now
Apr 13 18:46:30 <Twirl> whats the advantage over using android studio?
Apr 13 18:46:50 <tricknology> g00s you’re right, it’s been about 3 days of putzing and I still dont know if it’s the damn device or my code.. code is pretty solid though, similar the the BT chat example.
Apr 13 18:46:56 <tricknology> but more threading
Apr 13 18:47:12 <tricknology> to take some of the message processing load off the connectedThread
Apr 13 18:47:52 <tricknology> ognna lunch soon, I’ll let you kno whow it goes and maybe share the code base for anyone who needs to test stuff liek this in the future “assuming my transfer speeds are fast”  If not then I’ll be all up in here with the code posted and seekign tips.. lo
Apr 13 18:48:52 <truckcrash> Twirl, Android N is not an IDE and in no way a replacement for Android Studio. Android N is the next major release of android itself.
Apr 13 18:49:24 <Twirl> truckcrash: i know what android N is, i said android N developer
Apr 13 18:49:38 <g00s> truckcrash http://tools.android.com/recent/androidstudio21betaavailable
Apr 13 18:49:45 <s73v3r> it’s the preview of Android N
Apr 13 18:49:48 <g00s> "The main feature in 2.1 is support for Android N preview"
Apr 13 18:49:55 <tricknology> lol
Apr 13 18:51:35 <truckcrash> g00s, cool.
Apr 13 18:52:30 <dbro> Anyone in here a Bluetooth wizard?
Apr 13 18:52:49 <tricknology> I
Apr 13 18:52:58 <tricknology> dbro: I’m well on my way lol
Apr 13 18:54:41 <dbro> haha. I'm having a hell of a time consistently connecting to Dual Mode Bluetooth Devices over the LE transport. BluetoothDevice.connectGatt() has a hidden method (public in Marshmallow) to force the transport to LE, but even with that I occasionally get BR/EDR connections, and service discovery fails to discover LE services
Apr 13 18:55:26 <g00s> ouch
Apr 13 18:55:32 <dbro> The product I've been working on for a year now is going to fail in fire if I don't figure this out. I've got hcidumps and lots of documentation about the issue (repro on every device I've tested so far)
Apr 13 18:55:39 <dbro> so just wondering if there's hope :)
Apr 13 18:56:00 <g00s> dbro do it on iOS instead :D
Apr 13 18:56:20 <dbro> haha, we are. Just happens I'm to blame for the Android part of the show
Apr 13 18:57:31 <tricknology> LE, from what I’ve heard from g00s’ trials in here is iffy..
Apr 13 18:57:44 <tricknology> I’m not using LE so I can avoid that :(
Apr 13 18:57:52 <tricknology> bit of a time crunch
Apr 13 18:58:04 <tricknology> and TBT idk if the devices even support it.
Apr 13 18:59:38 <dbro> Broadcom's engineers state their hardware supports Dual Mode connections in this Bluedroid commit: https://android.googlesource.com/platform/external/bluetooth/bluedroid/+/8fe5887
Apr 13 19:00:02 <dbro> That tantalizing bit "Dual Mode Topology (Ability to choose LE transport when connecting with other Dual Mode devices)"
Apr 13 19:00:17 <dbro> If only I could figure out what foils that noble intention
Apr 13 19:00:53 <g00s> dbro how does nRF master control panel perform ?
Apr 13 19:01:06 <g00s> does it connect reliably or mess up also
Apr 13 19:02:32 <dbro> good thought: checking that now
Apr 13 19:10:49 <dbro> master control doesn't seem to expose the transport selection during connection so it appears to do the BR/EDR connection + Service discovery over SDP instead of LE + GATT
Apr 13 19:12:00 <dbro> thanks for pointing me to that. Really an awesome tool
Apr 13 19:13:35 <g00s> yeah its pretty nifty
Apr 13 19:16:50 <dbro> Have you Bluetooth folk also seen issues with LE devices where a connection stalls. e.g: You call connectGatt() but never receive a callback to OnConnectionStateChanged? And/Or OnConnectionStateChanged with status 133. Oh boy that's a goodie
Apr 13 19:19:20 <g00s> yeah 133 i think is generic error
Apr 13 19:19:43 <g00s> connectGatt with autoconnect=true can result in race condition
Apr 13 19:20:07 <g00s> that was reported years ago , even with patch - but think its still active bug
Apr 13 19:23:28 <dbro> yeah, right. I've been keeping autoConnect false fwiw
Apr 13 19:34:15 <g00s> lol vim 8 "Dropped the support for MS-DOS. It was too big to fit in memory."
Apr 13 19:34:19 <g00s> they need multi-dex !
Apr 13 19:39:39 <joshuakovach> has anyone ever successfully tested something with JodaTimeAndroid in an android unit test?
Apr 13 19:41:25 <treelzebub> Hey all, I'm trying to write tests for an AndroidKeyStore implementation. Robolectric has had an open issue for over a year to mock the java.security package to make this possible. Has anyone found a workaround?
Apr 13 19:41:30 <joshuakovach> I can't seem to get a test to run that can actually init the thing
Apr 13 19:42:49 <treelzebub> @joshuakovach if you're getting java.io.IOException: Resource not found: "org/joda/time/tz/data/ZoneInfoMap" -- I can tell you that's a red herring. All my tests pass despite throwing that exception.
Apr 13 19:45:01 <joshuakovach> #&@)!#&$
Apr 13 19:45:16 <joshuakovach> well there's a few hours of my life I'll never get bakck
Apr 13 19:45:51 <joshuakovach> I was certain it was skipping the actual test runs
Apr 13 19:47:38 <Rapitivo> Is that okay to ask again once in a while?
Apr 13 19:47:50 <treelzebub> I mean, I can't tell you that your framework is setup correctly, just that that exception will not prevent running your @Test methods if all is setup properly
Apr 13 19:48:20 <joshuakovach> yeah, I think there was something else off before that was misleading me
Apr 13 19:48:38 <joshuakovach> but you're right, and it's running them correctly now
Apr 13 19:50:45 <treelzebub> yay!
Apr 13 20:06:13 <Zta> I'm writing an app that switches between two states: Recording audio and playback the recorded audio.  I'm using AudioRecord in an AsyncTask and I'm writing the recorded short[] samples into a DataOutputStream wrapping a ByteArrayOutptStream.
Apr 13 20:06:21 <Zta> Currently I'm recreating this buffer and its wrapping stream when ever recording starts.  Would I be able to reuse these across recordings?  Would I gain anything performance-wise?
Apr 13 20:28:56 <Zta> never mind, I tried it but it leads to a heap of extra try/catch maintenance
Apr 13 20:29:44 <explodes> Is there a way to see if ndk-build was run with NDK_DEBUG=1 as a macro?
Apr 13 20:31:42 <thomasross> is there a way I can add a three dots menu inside an activity (eg in a list view)
Apr 13 20:31:54 <thomasross> /is that a bad thing to do
Apr 13 20:32:35 <explodes> Like a button with 3 dots? That .shows() a new PopupMenu() ?
Apr 13 20:34:18 <thomasross> yes
Apr 13 20:35:58 <thomasross> okay thanks
Apr 13 20:36:03 <thomasross> i think i figured it out :)
Apr 13 20:41:21 <besokare> I have a project in Android Studio (MyProject). I want to use code from other project (MyLibrary). I've followed every stackoverflow answer to no success, gradle refuses to build every time with a interesting collection of errors. This is not a question, I'm going to copy the whole library code into MyProject.
Apr 13 20:42:57 <g00s> besokare uh - i do this and it works O.o
Apr 13 20:43:19 <g00s> i have a library project and do uploadArchives I think to ~/.m2/....
Apr 13 20:43:52 <g00s> which is mavenLocal. and your other project needs mavenLocal() so it can find the artifact
Apr 13 20:46:39 <besokare> g00s, I know I'll use this library code in other projects so it's frustrating to lose the chance to reuse it easily later. Thank you, but I cannot struggle more with this, I'm too tired.
Apr 13 20:49:57 <joshkovach> is there a way to get resources in a JVM unit test? i.e. I pass a context to a method for the purposes of returning a localized string
Apr 13 20:50:14 <joshkovach> I need a context that can get the resources that would actually work
Apr 13 20:52:59 <joshkovach> looks like extending InstrumentationTestCase gives access to getInstrumentation().getContext(), which works
Apr 13 20:55:52 <g00s> "As of plugin 2.0.0-beta7 the dexInProcess is not available in DSL anymore. Is there any official statement regarding this?"
Apr 13 20:56:11 <g00s> would be cool if they had a website, like developer.android.com that had all these things
Apr 13 20:56:49 <kommunicate> g00s: don't like surprise breakages?
Apr 13 21:04:20 <explodes> joshkovach: youll have to use android test
Apr 13 21:04:44 <g00s> onRetainNonConfigurationInstance() and getLastNonConfigurationInstance() are not deprecated any more ? O.o
Apr 13 21:15:05 <adq> https://medium.com/@duhroach/reducing-png-file-size-8473480d0476#.dpz6nhli9
Apr 13 21:17:00 <adq> i usually use gimp, with indexed palette and no alpha when possible
Apr 13 21:17:33 <s73v3r> usually fine for buttons and widgets, but that’s not all of the images that are displayed
Apr 13 21:18:07 <adq> yeah, in another app i have like soon hundred thumbnails of 384x384
Apr 13 21:18:21 <adq> in this case, i better take care of the drawable folder lol
Apr 13 21:39:01 <rgb-one> Hey
Apr 13 21:39:12 <rgb-one> For a calculator the area where text is shown what widget would be useful for that?
Apr 13 21:39:13 <vise890>  hi all, i made a call to a number the other day and it's not showing in my call log. Maybe it failed. Is there any way to retrieve the phone number from the system logs/adb or something?
Apr 13 21:40:13 <besokare> rgb-one, TextView
Apr 13 21:40:34 <thomasro1s> vise890: not sure this is the right channel
Apr 13 21:41:01 <rgb-one> besokare: Cool
Apr 13 21:41:19 <rgb-one> What is FrameLayout useful for?
Apr 13 21:42:39 <NoirAvlaa> rgb-one, holding Fragments
Apr 13 21:43:12 <rgb-one> NoirAvlaa: En ingles mi amigo
Apr 13 21:43:24 <rgb-one> What is a fragment?
Apr 13 21:43:28 <NoirAvlaa> rgb-one, You use the FragmentManager to pass a fragment into it
Apr 13 21:44:17 <NoirAvlaa> https://developer.android.com/training/basics/fragments/index.html
Apr 13 21:44:23 <rgb-one> Alright, check out the calculator app on your phone  (yea, take out your phone and look at it)
Apr 13 21:44:49 <rgb-one> does it seem like the TextView is embeded in a frame?
Apr 13 21:45:16 <NoirAvlaa> Which TextView?
Apr 13 21:45:27 <rgb-one> where the text is displayed
Apr 13 21:45:35 <rgb-one> when you type 1+1
Apr 13 21:45:40 <rgb-one> and the answer is shown
Apr 13 21:45:41 <NoirAvlaa> No
Apr 13 21:45:47 <NoirAvlaa> It looks like a TextView
Apr 13 21:46:26 <adq> look at the documentation rgb-one
Apr 13 21:46:31 <NoirAvlaa> ^
Apr 13 21:46:40 <adq> you have basically view and viewgroup
Apr 13 21:46:51 <adq> and many components will inherit from them, doing more or less stuff
Apr 13 21:53:20 <rgb-one> So what would be the key widgets when constructing a calculator?
Apr 13 21:53:45 <s73v3r> buttons and a textview
Apr 13 21:54:15 <rgb-one> and a GridLayout?
Apr 13 21:54:28 <s73v3r> maybe? or a relative layout
Apr 13 21:54:37 <NoirAvlaa> Linear could work with weights?
Apr 13 21:55:21 <rgb-one> For someone new to this what do you recommend?
Apr 13 21:55:23 <NoirAvlaa> Though that'd involve some nesting which wouldn't exactly be elegant
Apr 13 21:55:35 <s73v3r> I’d recomend reading the docs and getting a book
Apr 13 21:55:47 <NoirAvlaa> What s73v3r said
Apr 13 21:56:04 <rgb-one> Not interested in doing the book thing as this is just an assignment
Apr 13 21:56:35 <s73v3r> we’re not interested in holding your hand through every step
Apr 13 21:56:36 <rgb-one> but I will check out the docs
Apr 13 21:56:42 <NoirAvlaa> If you're not willing to research your assignments properly yourself then why should we
Apr 13 21:56:44 <NoirAvlaa> ?
Apr 13 21:56:49 <rgb-one> no worries I ain't interested either
Apr 13 21:57:22 <rgb-one> Nah, I don't expect you to do my assignment, just guide
Apr 13 21:57:40 <s73v3r> and our guidance is to read the docs and get a book
Apr 13 21:57:47 <s73v3r> or take the Android Development class
Apr 13 22:00:17 <NoirAvlaa> Wow.
Apr 13 22:00:39 <NoirAvlaa> Sometimes I'm astonished at just how lazy people can be
Apr 13 22:10:09 <NoirAvlaa> s73v3r, looool, he's in ##java now asking the same thing
Apr 13 22:10:33 <s73v3r> yeah, they don’t take kindly to people asking about Android in there
Apr 13 22:10:45 <NoirAvlaa> So far he's just being ignored
Apr 13 22:11:00 <s73v3r> fair enough
Apr 13 22:16:17 <grekkos> anyone know a good resource for android threading? stuff that covers the things android specifically adds? like handlers and so on?
Apr 13 22:18:58 <NoirAvlaa> grekkos, http://www.vogella.com/tutorials/AndroidBackgroundProcessing/article.html
Apr 13 22:21:02 <grekkos> thanks NoirAvlaa i'll check it otu
Apr 13 22:35:08 <svm_invictvs> With android.view.VideoView is it possible to specify a thumbnail image for the video?  Or am I going to have to rig up an ImageView to handle that?
Apr 13 22:58:07 <drose379> Anyone ever use MaterialShowcaseView?
Apr 13 23:19:18 <tricknology> Well g00s:  transfer speed is about 400kb/s
Apr 13 23:20:00 <tricknology> kBps* .  still not the advertised 3.125 MB/s but I’ll take it. might be some math error in there to but it’s definitely the device
Apr 14 00:09:27 <g00s> so if you had a low end machine, would you enable dexInProcess and increase the daemon heap, or run out of process ?
Apr 14 00:10:30 <jug6ernaut> https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=204065
Apr 14 00:10:33 <jug6ernaut> please star
Apr 14 00:11:57 <g00s> it says in progress / assigned
Apr 14 00:12:39 <jug6ernaut> g00s yup
Apr 14 00:13:04 <jug6ernaut> doesnt mean it cant be a higher priority tho
Apr 14 00:14:36 <g00s> jug6ernaut just find the bergstr guy and crack the whip !
Apr 14 00:14:43 <jug6ernaut> lol
Apr 14 00:14:58 <g00s> stand behind his desk until complete
Apr 14 00:15:49 <jug6ernaut> i would have to work for google to do that
Apr 14 00:15:54 <jug6ernaut> &
Apr 14 00:16:00 * jug6ernaut no likes cali
Apr 14 00:19:30 <s73v3r> google has offices all over
Apr 14 00:19:55 <jug6ernaut> texas?
Apr 14 00:20:01 <jug6ernaut> maybe austin
Apr 14 00:21:23 <cpt-oblivious> How can I increase the volume at which an mp4 is played in a videoview?
Apr 14 00:25:08 <drose379> Anyone ever re-build an app they released in the past?
Apr 14 00:25:44 <jug6ernaut> just did, though it was a very small app
Apr 14 00:25:56 <jug6ernaut> java -> kotlin, holo -> material
Apr 14 00:26:02 <drose379> Fun?
Apr 14 00:26:05 <drose379> Boring?
Apr 14 00:26:07 <drose379> Worth it?
Apr 14 00:26:12 <jug6ernaut> "interesting"
Apr 14 00:26:27 <drose379> Mostly from the java to kotlin switch?
Apr 14 00:26:54 <jug6ernaut> no, using material and the support lib i was able to make a much leaner UI pretty easily
Apr 14 00:27:03 <jug6ernaut> kotlin is nice, still not 100% sold on it tho tbh
Apr 14 00:27:32 <drose379> Hmm, I released an app about 6 months ago, but since then I've learned a lot and I think I can make it a lot better a second time around
Apr 14 00:27:36 <drose379> + got some new features in mind
Apr 14 00:27:44 <drose379> So im trying to decide if I should re-build
Apr 14 00:27:49 <drose379> Ground up
Apr 14 00:28:00 <jug6ernaut> how big is your app
Apr 14 00:28:20 <drose379> What do you mean? As in how many downloads? Or just how big of a project
Apr 14 00:28:54 <jug6ernaut> project
Apr 14 00:29:17 <drose379> Not really sure, took me a little more then a semester at school to release
Apr 14 00:30:34 <drose379> You could look at it on the play store if you want haha
Apr 14 00:31:21 <jug6ernaut> well it really depends on how long you want to go forward maintaining the app
Apr 14 00:31:34 <jug6ernaut> & if it justifies the time investment to rewrite it
Apr 14 00:31:35 <drose379> For the foreseeable future
Apr 14 00:31:58 <drose379> I would like to re-write it yeah
Apr 14 00:32:08 <jug6ernaut> go for it then
Apr 14 00:32:14 <drose379> Sounds good
Apr 14 00:32:40 <drose379> Might even do a new name and everything
Apr 14 00:32:42 <drose379> Re-branding
Apr 14 00:32:50 <adq> Default method requires API level 24
Apr 14 00:32:51 <adq> :(((
Apr 14 00:33:12 <jug6ernaut> adq sadly
Apr 14 00:35:14 <grekkos> can anyone explain to me when is it necessary to create a looper?
Apr 14 00:37:00 <adq> grekkos, http://stackoverflow.com/a/7597897/1373568
Apr 14 00:37:15 <adq> i can explain when it is necessary to search for something
Apr 14 00:38:16 <grekkos> yeah I already read the same thing though
Apr 14 00:38:38 <jug6ernaut> what about it do you not understand then
Apr 14 00:39:53 <grekkos> well we recently refactored some code here to use futures and thread pools for our network stuff, but now it's become impossible to call any of our network code from a non-ui thread (or more specifically a thread that has no looper, I guess)
Apr 14 00:40:01 <grekkos> so i'm trying to get a better handle on this and what I can do to fix that
Apr 14 00:40:40 <jug6ernaut> why would u go with futures & threadpools when options like volley/rxjava exist :\
Apr 14 00:41:10 <grekkos> well for one thing we can't really use any 3rd party code without running into license complications
Apr 14 00:41:17 <grekkos> (legal issues and office politics)
Apr 14 00:41:25 <jug6ernaut> same here
Apr 14 00:41:30 <jug6ernaut> same issues
Apr 14 00:41:35 <jug6ernaut> its worth the trouble
Apr 14 00:42:01 <grekkos> I haven't tried either one of those but I've heard of both of them
Apr 14 00:42:05 <grekkos> what does volley do
Apr 14 00:42:32 <grekkos> oh wait this is a google project/
Apr 14 00:42:34 <Leeds> would volley count as third-party?
Apr 14 00:42:51 <jug6ernaut> Leeds depends if its provided by the sdk or not
Apr 14 00:43:00 <jug6ernaut> idk if it is or not
Apr 14 00:43:31 <grekkos> well
Apr 14 00:43:35 <jug6ernaut> grekkos yes volley is from google, "basially" its a network request scheduling/management library
Apr 14 00:43:38 <grekkos> I think it's anything that we haven't developped
Apr 14 00:43:56 <grekkos> like we can't even use the newer version of OkHttp even though we're already using a previous version
Apr 14 00:44:11 <jug6ernaut> well, okhttp is apart of android now
Apr 14 00:44:12 <jug6ernaut> soooo
Apr 14 00:44:56 <grekkos> right but even because it's a different version of it
Apr 14 00:45:02 <grekkos> there has to be another approval
Apr 14 00:45:13 <grekkos> and apparently it's very difficult to get through the process
Apr 14 00:46:07 <jug6ernaut> im just saying that since its apart of android / the sdk, it might be implicitly approved if you target the newer versions of android
Apr 14 00:46:16 <jug6ernaut> but yeah, legal is usually never easy to get through
Apr 14 00:46:28 * jug6ernaut has been fighting that battle a lot
Apr 14 00:46:31 <jug6ernaut> over the last few months
Apr 14 00:46:39 <grekkos> yep
Apr 14 00:46:40 <grekkos> :|
Apr 14 00:46:46 <jug6ernaut> takes ~3 months to get an OS library approved for me :S
Apr 14 00:47:03 <grekkos> I think it's mostly a concern that we aren't the ones maintaining that code so if something goes wrong we could be liable or something
Apr 14 00:47:05 <jug6ernaut> tho we are revamping the entire process, should be down to weeks for us soon
Apr 14 00:47:31 <jug6ernaut> i mean, your always liable for code you deliver
Apr 14 00:47:35 <grekkos> that sounds like an improvment
Apr 14 00:47:45 <jug6ernaut> whether you write it or you import it from someone else
Apr 14 00:49:41 <jug6ernaut> but back to the topic, threading code can be very tricky to get right, if at all possible dont write the core threading code yourself
Apr 14 00:49:49 <bitkiller> "look mr manager: this would take x weeks to stabilize, but we can use this lib, which's been use since 3 yrs"
Apr 14 00:51:19 <bitkiller> if it's a big consulting, the manager will certainly say no to the lib
Apr 14 00:51:20 <jug6ernaut> "which has 100 ppl who konw what they are doing developing it and testing it"
Apr 14 00:51:32 <jug6ernaut> "they have experience, we dont, it works, k?"
Apr 14 00:51:59 <jug6ernaut> bitkiller if ur going to a manager, your already doing it wrong
Apr 14 00:52:14 <bitkiller> yep
Apr 14 00:52:23 <bitkiller> do it first, ask later
Apr 14 00:52:53 <jug6ernaut> no lol, not necessarily, since it might be a legal issue. Just saying dont go to a manager for a technical decision
Apr 14 00:55:42 <grekkos> yeah
Apr 14 00:55:56 <grekkos> problem is I don't think we own all of the code either
Apr 14 00:56:43 <jug6ernaut> fight the good fight grekkos
Apr 14 00:59:29 <grekkos> haha
Apr 14 00:59:40 <grekkos> well I'm also contrac so it's possible it won't be in there til I'm gone
Apr 14 00:59:44 <grekkos> contract*
Apr 14 01:00:03 <grekkos> which is still good, but it doesn't help me right now
Apr 14 01:00:05 <grekkos> haha
Apr 14 01:00:43 <jug6ernaut> i dont even work on our main code base anymore, all i do is tools
Apr 14 01:00:46 <jug6ernaut> i still try to fix shit
Apr 14 01:00:54 <jug6ernaut> bc ppl are stupid by themselves
Apr 14 01:01:18 <grekkos> tooling is cool too though
Apr 14 01:01:34 <jug6ernaut> looking at a code review today, one activity, brand new, 900 lines
Apr 14 01:01:49 <jug6ernaut> its like daa f***? u serious?
Apr 14 01:02:33 <grekkos> lol
Apr 14 01:02:56 <grekkos> and, oddly, that's a hard battle to fight too
Apr 14 01:03:04 <jug6ernaut> & its one of like 30 files changes
Apr 14 01:03:16 <jug6ernaut> its extremely had if your company does not have good standards in place
Apr 14 01:03:16 <grekkos> "There's nothing wrong, with this function, it works... it's just 300 lines of code, but since it works there's no reason to change it"
Apr 14 01:04:05 <drose379|bbl> What did the function do
Apr 14 01:04:07 <drose379|bbl> Why was it so long
Apr 14 01:04:19 <jug6ernaut> i made it where i get automatically added as an observer to all of our native (android/ios) code reviews, i open defects all day
Apr 14 01:04:29 <jug6ernaut> drose379|bbl bc ppl dont know what they are doing
Apr 14 01:04:38 <drose379|bbl> How long should a method be max?
Apr 14 01:04:42 <grekkos> i was giving an arbitrary example but I saw something similar on our ios code the other day and the response i got was "nothing inside will be reused so there's no point"
Apr 14 01:04:58 <grekkos> I like functions shorter than 20 lines or so
Apr 14 01:05:00 <jug6ernaut> drose379|bbl never longer then what can be seen on a screen
Apr 14 01:05:08 <jug6ernaut> if u can see the full context of a function at one time its to long
Apr 14 01:05:16 <grekkos> I don't like that one either jug6ernaut because people will use large screens and small fonts and claim that it fits
Apr 14 01:05:16 <drose379|bbl> Why so short grekkos
Apr 14 01:05:34 <jug6ernaut> grekkos its a rule of thumb based on a normal display lol
Apr 14 01:05:51 <drose379|bbl> Where do you guys work?
Apr 14 01:05:53 <grekkos> yeah I know but I had issues with that too
Apr 14 01:05:57 <grekkos> with long columns
Apr 14 01:06:01 <grekkos> someone was using a 27" imac
Apr 14 01:06:10 <grekkos> and even they were scrolling off screen
Apr 14 01:06:17 <jug6ernaut> lol
Apr 14 01:06:57 <grekkos> drose379|bbl: I don't really count the lines, but I feel like that's a reasonable size
Apr 14 01:07:15 <drose379|bbl> I see
Apr 14 01:07:18 <drose379|bbl> JW
Apr 14 01:07:19 <grekkos> drose379|bbl: I feel like a function should do *one* thing, if you're doing too much in a single function that's better read as multiple functions
Apr 14 01:07:44 <drose379|bbl> agreed
Apr 14 01:07:57 <grekkos> instead of trying to read through a vast sea of instructions and loops and things, it's easier to see just doSomething(); doSomethingElse() etc
Apr 14 01:08:14 <grekkos> that way the function reads more like a recipe
Apr 14 01:08:30 <drose379|bbl> Right
Apr 14 01:10:19 <g00s> should it be possible to put any arbitrary views in CollapsableToolbarLayout  - usually I just see things like an ImageView
Apr 14 01:11:09 <jug6ernaut> hmm
Apr 14 01:11:22 <jug6ernaut> its just a viewgroup...so i would think so, never tried though
Apr 14 01:14:33 <g00s> can any of the java decompilers / jd-gui type things show resource IDs symbolically rather than 78678436574367 etc
Apr 14 01:15:31 <jug6ernaut> u would need to reference your R class
Apr 14 01:15:35 <jug6ernaut> idk if any do it automatically
Apr 14 01:17:54 <boris``> is this channel the place to ask questions about developing an app that uses GCM?
Apr 14 01:19:05 <jug6ernaut> its a channel where you can try
Apr 14 01:20:10 <g00s> kill -9 android studio piece of shit
Apr 14 01:21:59 <g00s> keeps hanging / beach-balling into oblivion
Apr 14 01:22:15 <jug6ernaut> more ram all the things
Apr 14 01:22:29 <g00s> nah its something about adb when the machine wakes up from sleep
Apr 14 01:23:02 <jug6ernaut> i have an issue where the emulator will run out of control when waking up from sleep
Apr 14 01:23:11 <jug6ernaut> normally like 80% usage on 1 core
Apr 14 01:23:14 <g00s> if i don't remember to disable ADB before the machine goes to sleep, i can't get control of the IDE again when machines wakes up
Apr 14 01:23:20 <jug6ernaut> after waking up from sleep, looking at 350%
Apr 14 01:23:43 <g00s> jug6ernaut oh this was years ago, i woke up and my machine was about to melt down
Apr 14 01:23:59 <g00s> night before, i shut it down with an emu running
Apr 14 01:24:19 <g00s> yeah. woke up and it had 100% cpu and the fans were going nuts
Apr 14 01:24:46 <jug6ernaut> sounds like when my computer refused to go to sleep
Apr 14 01:24:51 <jug6ernaut> ~100% cpu usage
Apr 14 01:24:54 <jug6ernaut> in my backpack
Apr 14 01:27:26 <g00s> when i kill adb , AS restarts 2 more
Apr 14 01:27:38 <jug6ernaut> :\
Apr 14 01:29:07 <boris``> i'd like to create an app that receives event notifications from a server running on a user's local network. at first i was going to use a local connection, but it seems that in marshmallow the changes to power management make GCM the preferred method of receiving notifications. in my case, i need to receive and handle the events in real-time, and while the device may be in doze. is this
Apr 14 01:29:07 <boris``> a legitimate use-case for GCM? my concern is that obviously i'd need to embed the api key into an application i'd distribute to users
Apr 14 02:43:23 <tricknology> g00s: u there?
Apr 14 02:44:26 <tricknology> Ended up getting 400kB/s from the Android-Android comms.  Still not great but much better than 5kB/s with the device.. :/
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