**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 02 02:59:56 2009 Nov 02 03:20:01 v19.jffs2 an the "moredrivers experment" kernel work ? Nov 02 03:20:28 or should i use the v25 kernel? Nov 02 07:48:20 Morning Nov 02 10:18:36 good morning Nov 02 11:57:00 hi jancona Nov 02 12:12:58 jancona: i've read you made something about audio? Nov 02 12:13:05 jancona: have you turned up volume? Nov 02 12:32:30 pbaxter: where did you read that? I haven't done anything Nov 02 12:32:44 jancona, why not? :( Nov 02 12:32:55 on the mail that talks about the weekly 45 Nov 02 12:33:04 there's written something like a commit you made Nov 02 12:33:21 hello Nov 02 12:33:43 Android on Freerunner-specific audio files <-- you mean that? Nov 02 12:33:45 serdar__, what channel is a alias to this one? Nov 02 12:33:55 serdar__: yes Nov 02 12:33:57 larlin, #android-on-freerunner Nov 02 12:34:15 humm can you verfiy that it works? Nov 02 12:34:16 Oh, that was Damir's ringtones and alerts Nov 02 12:34:18 larlin, not really a alias, it's a "I kick you all to another channel" Nov 02 12:34:35 larlin, /j #android-on-freerunner Nov 02 12:34:40 jancona: ok got it..so no turning up in aqudio call? Nov 02 12:34:56 Not yet Nov 02 12:35:07 wee need to find out how to register a microphone Nov 02 12:35:23 serdar: I'm seeing a separate channel here Nov 02 12:35:26 michael said it's a stereo one. Nov 02 12:35:28 i downloaded beta7, works fine (faster than cupcake-0.1.1!) but it says SD-card not found when i try to download anything via the browser (mount shows /sdcard mounted correctly..) -- guys you say koolu is no support anymore? so what should i install. note: cupcake-0.1.1 i tried is very slow and slim (and pain to install andnav2 e.g. because terminal does not accept Return key, no ssh, hence no play with it :( ) Nov 02 12:35:32 /j #android-on-freerunner Nov 02 12:35:38 soz Nov 02 12:35:41 :) Nov 02 12:35:52 jancona, larlin, not really a alias, it's a "I kick you all to another channel" Nov 02 12:36:56 Serdar: i use pidgin, so i don't get kicked, (just like the other two guys(?)) Nov 02 12:38:12 it dosen't seem to work at all right now Nov 02 12:38:34 sledgeas: go #and2moko Nov 02 12:38:47 panicking: what can i do to increase audio volume during call? Nov 02 12:39:06 pbaxter, change asound.conf Nov 02 12:39:11 a little bit Nov 02 12:39:15 and increase the volume Nov 02 12:39:24 ok...which one do i have to increase? Nov 02 12:39:27 pbaxter: that's why i am doing here :) apparently you have to adjust the irc-link on your website (or this alias) Nov 02 12:39:34 wait Nov 02 12:40:17 we will try to fix the forward/alias thing hopefully it will work Nov 02 12:42:15 http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/blog/comments.php?y=09&m=01&entry=entry090122-134125 Nov 02 12:42:31 Off to the dentist, then to work. TTYL Nov 02 12:45:55 thanks panicking Nov 02 12:55:52 need to find out the modes again Nov 02 13:03:57 hi all! Nov 02 13:04:02 Serdar, :D how are you? Nov 02 13:04:32 larlin, now Nov 02 13:04:39 sanvy, fine and you? Nov 02 13:04:52 no so bad, but the compilation seems failed Nov 02 13:04:57 larlin, it's a ban. /mode +b *!*@*!#and2moko Nov 02 13:05:10 so it expired some day or something like that Nov 02 13:05:19 it use all night to say "data sek changed, maybe your compilation will be incomplete" Nov 02 13:05:20 :\ Nov 02 13:05:44 so today i haven't a succesful compilation, only warning for more than 10h Nov 02 13:06:14 I get a non existent channel here but then that could be my setup that dosen't follow the command very good Nov 02 13:07:24 larlin, you were useing pidgin ore something like that, right? Nov 02 13:07:46 nope I use a jabber<->irc transport Nov 02 13:08:02 sanvy, maybe you want a weekly? Nov 02 13:08:08 larlin, what jabber client? Nov 02 13:08:13 gajim Nov 02 13:08:17 hm Nov 02 13:08:29 *not* gaim or pidgin it's not the same =) Nov 02 13:08:30 maybe you want use pidgin or something like that? :) Nov 02 13:08:37 no way! Nov 02 13:08:40 why? Nov 02 13:08:59 Serdar, better, I want MY modded version Nov 02 13:09:01 jabber support in gaim/pidgin is worthless Nov 02 13:09:09 and a working server :D Nov 02 13:09:50 larlin, and empathy? Nov 02 13:10:08 Serdar, don't get me started on empathy/telepathy =) Nov 02 13:10:30 last time I tried we had to restart the jabber server for a lot of people Nov 02 13:10:42 what do you think of useing an IRC client? Nov 02 13:11:19 huh what does have to do with the jabber server? Nov 02 13:11:27 I don't want to use more then one im client has been my policy for 10 years don't hold you breath on it changing =) Nov 02 13:12:49 have you ever tried centerim? Nov 02 13:12:50 Serdar, empathy/telepathy created very odd connections that I wasen't able to kill in any other way Nov 02 13:13:21 does centerim has any jabber implementation that is worth anything? Nov 02 13:13:50 I don't know what you mean "worth" Nov 02 13:13:54 I use features like forward messages and multiple logins and remote change of status Nov 02 13:14:20 and then transport support and muc support Nov 02 13:14:45 and you need all of this stuff? Nov 02 13:15:01 I use it often enought for me to need it yes Nov 02 13:15:44 hm Nov 02 13:16:21 centerim has a jabber support, but it does not have a gui. Nov 02 13:17:38 well I could run in cli but on the other hand I kina like having a gui =) Nov 02 13:18:43 hmm Nov 02 13:18:55 I have been looking around for other solutions but this one is the one that so far works the best. It's not perfect (specificly irc support is quite bad) but all the other things works very good Nov 02 13:19:06 if it's only for irc I would prefer weechat. Nov 02 13:19:23 how's the icq support? Nov 02 13:20:00 decent it works for normal icq chat haven't tried much more Nov 02 13:21:03 I don't have anyone on icq that dosen't have jabber so I only use icq for testing and things like that Nov 02 13:21:24 I don't have jabber. Nov 02 13:21:37 but all this depends on the transport you use I think I use quite old icq and msn transports Nov 02 13:21:44 okay I do have an id, but that's all, never use it. Nov 02 13:22:09 old icq protocoll will not work. Nov 02 13:22:27 it's a bad policy of AOL Nov 02 13:22:54 the transport still works so I guess it has new enought protocoll Nov 02 13:25:04 larlin: tried psi ?. Nov 02 13:26:00 sledgeas, yeah but the irc support is dependent on the transport more then client so I don't think there would be any diffrent in this case. Nov 02 13:26:00 But psi is the other good jabber client, but I'm a gnome person =) Nov 02 13:26:03 btw Serdar im using pidgin if that counts Nov 02 13:26:53 and no qt* among your libs then? :D i'm a gnome person too, but have all those qt what it takes Nov 02 13:27:12 there was a ladybug jabber client with whiteboard function. Nov 02 13:27:14 right now I don't have any qt libs installed at all Nov 02 13:27:33 no qt, how can you live without qt?? Nov 02 13:27:57 :D Nov 02 13:27:59 skype e.g. Nov 02 13:28:01 larlin, if we met on FOSDEM we need to change your style :P Nov 02 13:28:11 Serdar, you can try =) Nov 02 13:28:12 meet Nov 02 13:28:27 larlin, I wil have 10l of beer that will help. Nov 02 13:28:28 skype is properitary garbage :p Nov 02 13:28:31 will Nov 02 13:28:59 Serdar, well if you get me to drink that would be a huge change (I don't drink alcohol) Nov 02 13:29:15 hehe. Nov 02 13:29:21 * sanvy is retrying to compile android Nov 02 13:29:58 same here. Nov 02 13:30:27 I'm part of unf: Nov 02 13:30:27 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ungdomens_Nykterhetsf%C3%B6rbund Nov 02 13:30:32 but I will have birthday on that time. Nov 02 13:31:36 I don't understand. Nov 02 13:31:49 what's that something religious? Nov 02 13:31:54 btw how did koolu put skype on android !? Nov 02 13:32:20 it's compiled for android Nov 02 13:32:33 Serdar, no it's a organisation for people that choose not to drink Nov 02 13:33:19 but I (hope) guess, that we will not put any properitary software on purpose. Nov 02 13:33:28 larlin, any reasons? Nov 02 13:33:31 way back it was religious too but today it's compleatly non religious Nov 02 13:34:07 Serdar, I never started drinking when the "rest" did and then never saw a reason to drink Nov 02 13:34:31 I see. Nov 02 13:34:53 I don't drink because I didn't find anything that tastes well. Nov 02 13:35:20 that is also a good reason Nov 02 13:36:54 so unf is in sweden for young people that dosen't drink we have meetings and does things togheter and we also lobby about reducing the pressure to drink in society Nov 02 13:37:00 nice we reached our to today with 22 users - 2 Bots. Nov 02 13:37:00 ic Nov 02 13:37:50 larlin, you mean I should not bring beer with me? Nov 02 13:38:09 larlin, will you be on FOSDEM? Nov 02 13:39:08 Serdar, not sure yet, you shoulde decide if you want to bring beer or not Nov 02 13:40:03 larlin, we also lobby about reducing the pressure to drink in society <-- ;) Nov 02 13:40:34 yeah on a political level not on a don't bring beer to FOSDEM level =) Nov 02 13:40:57 so in short I want you to pay more for the beer so there will be less total consumtion =) Nov 02 13:42:43 a more local example is that we serve milk drinks/milkshakes on a lot of local student parties at the university in Linköping... That is a example of "reducing the pressure to drink in society" Nov 02 13:43:09 yes. instead of increasing the taxes, they should rise the luxery tax on cigarettes and alcohol. Nov 02 13:44:58 exatly that is the kind of political issues unf and the mother organisation IOGT-NTO works with in Sweden and the european youth organisation ACTIVE work with in the eu Nov 02 13:45:55 but you need to force people to consume this staff in a political way too. Nov 02 13:46:15 in economic way for sure Nov 02 13:47:39 rise the taxes and force them to consume. that's the best way to rise :) Nov 02 13:48:28 well in Sweden we are pretty good off with quite high taxes on alcohol and a state monopoly on sales this have a good result on the amount of alochol related damages Nov 02 13:49:11 so in Sweden mostly we fight to keep what we have which is hard enought Nov 02 13:49:13 I am member of red cross. if there are damages of alcohol, I can fix it :) Nov 02 13:52:17 hehe liver transplant? =) Nov 02 13:57:58 no but 40% of glucose :) Nov 02 14:03:40 Serdar: i have 40% of alcol in to bllod usually Nov 02 14:05:27 hey all, today i sent a file via bluetooth, if someone interest... Nov 02 14:05:46 is there any blood left in your alcohol system? :) Nov 02 14:06:06 are you making your own alcohol, larlin? Nov 02 14:06:49 mvzaanen, read what I have been writing the last hour and think again please Nov 02 14:07:18 sorry, I only read the last few lines Nov 02 14:07:21 I'll do some more scrollback Nov 02 14:09:18 ah, sorry Nov 02 14:09:23 hehe Nov 02 14:09:32 mvzaanen, no problem =) Nov 02 14:09:41 I don't see a problem with drinking, but obviously, only in moderation Nov 02 14:09:56 he is drunk all the time, only alcohol makes him clear :) Nov 02 14:10:07 just a bit confused of getting *that* question after that discusssion =) Nov 02 14:10:20 well, I only read something like 10 liter of beer Nov 02 14:10:25 40% alcohol in blood Nov 02 14:10:25 etc Nov 02 14:10:38 and then, sweden, high taxes, etc Nov 02 14:10:39 Serdar: sounds like Bender from futurama :) Nov 02 14:10:51 sledgeas, he is bender! Nov 02 14:11:10 mvzaanen, well my problem with alcohol is really on a more society level that it creates a lot of bad things for a lot off people Nov 02 14:11:29 so does smoking Nov 02 14:11:33 mvzaanen, this are the results of not reading correctly :) Nov 02 14:11:42 I know serdar Nov 02 14:11:49 reading diagonally Nov 02 14:12:04 btw. you are coming to FOSDEM I guess? Nov 02 14:12:20 FOSDEM? Nov 02 14:12:25 yes. Nov 02 14:12:52 I wasn't planning to Nov 02 14:12:56 but brussels is not very far away Nov 02 14:13:12 yes. Nov 02 14:13:15 same here Nov 02 14:13:44 same here makes me think about it should be possible to go by train even Nov 02 14:14:21 I was thinking of walking there, but with a barrel of beer it could be hard. Nov 02 14:14:38 train? you mean through germany? Nov 02 14:14:46 that could be much expensive. Nov 02 14:14:51 walking, serdar? Nov 02 14:15:28 mvzaanen, yes, it's 10h of walk to Andwerpen, so I guess +/-4h to Bruxsell Nov 02 14:15:31 Serdar, is it that bad? Nov 02 14:15:39 you're in antwerp? Nov 02 14:15:46 larlin, germany isn't that cheap Nov 02 14:15:52 mvzaanen, no Germany/Düsseldorf Nov 02 14:16:03 But it's 10h to Antwerpen. Nov 02 14:16:03 so what's the relation with antwerp? Nov 02 14:16:05 if you walk Nov 02 14:16:06 oh Nov 02 14:16:07 well going to Europe isn't cheap any way I go =) Nov 02 14:16:08 I see Nov 02 14:16:37 from Moenchengladbach. Nov 02 14:17:22 WAH. they kicked me out of Borussia Mönchengladbach II :( I was a good trainer they were placed first but they fired me because of money loss :( Nov 02 14:27:40 about 400 euro both ways + about 150 euro for rail connection in Sweden Nov 02 14:27:40 I guess plane could be cheaper but I hate planes.... Nov 02 14:31:20 or rather if we want to be able to go to brussels in the future rail is the only way to go.... Nov 02 14:36:43 400 EUR w00t? Nov 02 14:36:48 that's pretty much Nov 02 14:37:53 larlin, what's the next airport? Nov 02 14:38:23 Goeteborg or Stockholm? Nov 02 14:38:34 they are equally useless from here Nov 02 14:39:19 arlanada stockholm is easier to get to on my own Nov 02 14:39:44 but that is by going rail to arlanda Nov 02 14:50:18 i go Nov 02 14:50:21 see you later Nov 02 15:25:23 hello Nov 02 15:26:35 any positive experiences with andnav2 ? i am suffering with both - stable and nightly :( crashes after asking to select server, and crashes (program crash-close dialog) always after pressing back button from backscreen to splash Nov 02 15:27:24 hm, doesn't it use googles api, which we don't have on openmoko? Nov 02 15:27:46 i successfully ran andnav on koolu however Nov 02 15:27:54 (but i didn't try it... ;)) Nov 02 15:33:00 I'll try to weekly build again today Nov 02 18:33:34 hi all Nov 02 19:04:09 oh damn Nov 02 19:04:24 the android emulator doesn't make me a target for AVD Nov 02 19:04:28 android sdk* Nov 02 19:27:41 i go Nov 02 19:27:52 serdar_, my machine is compiling yet Nov 02 19:27:53 :D Nov 02 19:27:55 bye Nov 02 21:37:57 serdar_, when do you plan to be in brussels? Nov 02 23:18:47 whaha Nov 02 23:18:56 reading the idt in usermode :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Nov 03 02:59:57 2009