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Jan 30 10:11:43 <larlin> Serdar, do we got a RC build?
Jan 30 10:27:36 <ColdFyre> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Jan 30 13:08:59 <Serdar> nope
Jan 30 16:35:56 <Serdar> hi jancona
Jan 30 16:42:09 <Serdar> larlin, there?
Jan 30 16:55:49 <jancona> Hi Serdar
Jan 30 17:29:51 <Serdar> jancona, can you send niels one page of who you are and what you do?
Jan 30 20:35:32 <Serdar> larlin, ping?
Jan 30 20:39:29 <larlin> Serdar, pong
Jan 30 20:40:00 <Serdar> you need to do something :) or maybe I can do it to, but you need to change it.
Jan 30 20:40:10 <Serdar> I am produceing a RC now
Jan 30 20:40:26 <larlin> sounds good what needs to be done?
Jan 30 20:41:02 <Serdar> if you receive a mail, you need to download the latest daily and put it as RC.
Jan 30 20:41:22 <Serdar> android-on-freerunner-0.2.0-rc.tar.bz2
Jan 30 20:41:23 <larlin> k
Jan 30 20:41:52 <Serdar> after you did, tell me if it's done
Jan 30 20:41:57 <Serdar> I need to write a Mail.
Jan 30 20:42:17 <Serdar> btw. I removed VoiceDialer
Jan 30 20:42:27 <Serdar> which will be announced there too.
Jan 30 20:42:44 <larlin> sounds good
Jan 30 20:43:41 <Serdar> RC1
Jan 30 20:43:44 <Serdar> not RC
Jan 30 20:45:19 <larlin> will do
Jan 30 20:45:52 <larlin> good then I can flash it before I start my travel on monday and if it breaks everything horrible fix it tomorrow =)
Jan 30 20:47:12 <Serdar> travel on monday? you need a week to get there?
Jan 30 20:47:30 <larlin> going the "short" way via avignon =)
Jan 30 20:48:02 <Serdar> avignon? what's that?
Jan 30 20:48:26 <larlin> a city in France I hope or I spelled it wrong? =)
Jan 30 20:51:48 <Serdar> no idea, I never was in france
Jan 30 20:51:55 <Serdar> also in belgia :)
Jan 30 20:52:16 <Serdar> to think about it, I never leave Duesseldorf :D
Jan 30 20:52:34 <larlin> it's in southern france we are using up the travel days on our interail cards by taking a small vacation =)
Jan 30 20:52:42 <larlin> from the snow and -15 degress =)
Jan 30 20:57:57 <Serdar> are you finished?
Jan 30 20:58:08 <Serdar> Hi there,
Jan 30 20:58:09 <Serdar> FOSDEM is in front of us and we thought of releasing a new stable.
Jan 30 20:58:09 <Serdar> Therefore I build a RC1 which should be tested till FOSDEM, so we can publish a stable.
Jan 30 20:58:09 <Serdar> There are many changes since 0.1.1 to count here, people who are interested in, can read everything at:
Jan 30 20:58:09 <Serdar> http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/cupcake.txt (it isn't sorted.)
Jan 30 20:58:10 <Serdar> Please test it to the heart and tell us if something is wrong.
Jan 30 20:58:12 <Serdar> One thing I personally changed: I removed VoiceDialer.
Jan 30 20:58:14 <Serdar> If this cause anything please report it too.
Jan 30 20:58:16 <Serdar> It will be nice and help us if you would use the bug tracker and write there you are using RC1.
Jan 30 20:58:19 <Serdar> look at this.
Jan 30 20:59:19 <Serdar> or wait I create the weeklies again and you can switch them, is that okay?
Jan 30 21:01:25 <larlin> sounds good
Jan 30 21:07:04 <Serdar> I also updated fosdem-android
Jan 30 21:07:10 <Serdar> to the latest version
Jan 30 21:07:58 <Serdar> the author got fixed some bugs I founded now it'S much useable. the star field is too small you need a stylus, but it works.
Jan 30 21:08:42 <larlin> nice
Jan 30 21:09:34 <Serdar> the next mail receive you in few minutes.
Jan 30 21:10:24 <Serdar> I will also build a new daily of master.
Jan 30 21:10:35 <Serdar> need to test something.
Jan 30 21:10:37 <larlin> good
Jan 30 21:11:56 <Serdar> I am really facinated, that we got still 5 talks.
Jan 30 21:12:09 <Serdar> I wanted qtmoto too, but they didn't answer...
Jan 30 21:12:16 <Serdar> qtmoko
Jan 30 21:12:24 <larlin> to bad
Jan 30 21:12:30 <larlin> but 5 talks is really good
Jan 30 21:12:38 <Serdar> yeah.
Jan 30 21:13:13 <Serdar> I guess I need to spend much more money I don't have for a videocam :/
Jan 30 21:13:37 <Serdar> I thought of a 1080p full hd webcam.
Jan 30 21:14:57 <Serdar> s/webcam/camcorder
Jan 30 21:15:48 <Serdar> http://www.medion.com/de/electronics/prod/Digitaler+HD+Camcorder+MEDIONŽ+LIFEŽ+X47000+(MD+85910)/50032707A1?category=foto_video_63&wt_mc=de.intern.m-shop.pro-pla.on-ma&wt_cc1=m-shop_topseller_foto_video-1-links&wt_cc2=50032707A1&wt_cw=30.2.8&utm_source=Internetseite-intern&utm_medium=Kachel&utm_content=foto_video_1-links&utm_campaign=Kategoriekachel-Hotspots&utm_term=50032707A1
Jan 30 21:16:17 <larlin> you have dubble checked with fosdem that they don't have any?
Jan 30 21:17:33 <Serdar> they have, but they use it for the main events
Jan 30 21:17:44 <larlin> k to bad
Jan 30 21:17:47 <Serdar> not for devrooms
Jan 30 21:18:14 <Serdar> I ask for donations, maybe someone will donate few EURs :)
Jan 30 21:20:17 <Serdar> hmm that's like begging... I guess I will not do it...
Jan 30 21:20:40 <larlin> I'm checking if I can borrow a camera
Jan 30 21:20:56 <Serdar> I will buy this camcorder :/
Jan 30 21:21:02 <Serdar> but maybe we will need 2
Jan 30 21:21:12 <larlin> why? if I can get one?
Jan 30 21:21:48 <Serdar> we need definitly 2
Jan 30 21:21:56 <larlin> why?
Jan 30 21:22:07 <Serdar> one for taking the whole presentation
Jan 30 21:22:27 <Serdar> and one for filming the moko if we want show something.
Jan 30 21:24:38 <larlin> have you checked what equipment the room we will be in have?
Jan 30 21:24:59 <larlin> (there are some "overhead" projects that is camera based that would work)
Jan 30 21:37:56 <Serdar> video projectors.
Jan 30 21:39:37 <larlin> k then we need a camera to bad
Jan 30 21:40:30 <larlin> now I got a release mail is this the one to change the name on?
Jan 30 21:40:56 <Serdar> yes
Jan 30 21:47:46 <larlin> Serdar, is this good as file name?
Jan 30 21:47:46 <larlin> android-on-freerunner-cupcake-0.2.0-RC1.tar.gz
Jan 30 21:48:33 <Serdar> yes.
Jan 30 21:50:04 <larlin> uploading
Jan 30 21:51:10 <Serdar> I thought you only change the name.
Jan 30 21:51:46 <Serdar> and Featured please
Jan 30 21:52:16 <larlin> can't change the name of the file need to download and upload for that
Jan 30 21:52:24 <Serdar> oh
Jan 30 21:52:35 <Serdar> in that case I could have change it...
Jan 30 21:52:46 <larlin> well fixed now atleast
Jan 30 21:56:22 <Serdar> mail sent
Jan 30 21:56:42 <larlin> adding some text to front page
Jan 30 22:02:17 <larlin> so added a message on the fron page does it look okay?
Jan 30 22:04:46 <Serdar> your "security problem" is the only way for me to acces/debug my freerunner.
Jan 30 22:07:46 <larlin> well that dosen't change if it is a security problem or not most security features makes things less accessable that is how they work
Jan 30 22:09:25 <Serdar> the problem is, if we solve this and remove it, I won't be able to access anymore.
Jan 30 22:10:17 <larlin> does adb work for normal android devices on osX?
Jan 30 22:14:00 <Serdar> maybe.
Jan 30 22:14:05 <Serdar> it is a openmoko issue
Jan 30 22:14:33 <Serdar> I don't have another android device so I can't tell it, but I guess so.
Jan 30 22:15:10 <larlin> if the problem is related to usb networking fixing this issue may fix so you can use adb too
Jan 30 22:15:33 <larlin> (if we fix it the "right" way it would not use usb networking anymore)
Jan 30 22:16:48 <Serdar> there is no fix
Jan 30 22:16:52 <Serdar> not for 10.6
Jan 30 22:17:19 <larlin> the fix for the security issue in android-on-freerunner
Jan 30 22:19:33 <Serdar> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X#USB_Networking
Jan 30 22:20:55 <larlin> yeah if we change how adb is used USB_Networking will not be needed anymore
Jan 30 22:21:45 <Serdar> hm
Jan 30 22:22:28 <Serdar> we should also have a look at the installer code..
Jan 30 22:22:41 <Serdar> you have downloaded the latest cupcake right?
Jan 30 22:23:07 <larlin> installing it now
Jan 30 22:23:32 <larlin> but I don't use installer
Jan 30 22:23:42 <Serdar> okay, I can't look at cupcake now, because I am looking at eclair.
Jan 30 22:24:06 <larlin> k
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Jan 30 22:57:35 <Serdar> wb :)
Jan 30 23:00:38 <larlin> Serdar, do you got a new link to the improved fosdem app?
Jan 30 23:01:10 <Serdar> yes it's on serdar-dere.net/~serdar
Jan 30 23:21:41 <Serdar> voicedialer is removed, right?
Jan 30 23:25:15 <Serdar> was too late for this last daily.
Jan 30 23:26:45 <larlin> yeah no voice dialer
Jan 30 23:26:57 <Serdar> that's nice.
Jan 30 23:28:04 <larlin> Serdar, can't find fosdem app?
Jan 30 23:29:13 <Serdar> reload
Jan 30 23:29:59 <larlin> thanks!
Jan 30 23:32:10 <Serdar> cleaned
Jan 30 23:32:18 <Serdar> new reload should be shorter
Jan 30 23:32:47 <Serdar> nice I got 121 dailies
Jan 30 23:32:57 <Serdar> 5.3 G
Jan 30 23:34:04 <Serdar> 106 cupcake dailies, 7 eclair builds and 6 master builds.
Jan 30 23:34:22 <Serdar> it will be 7 master today :)
Jan 30 23:34:44 <Serdar> maybe I should delete some stuff
Jan 30 23:38:11 <larlin> yeah sounds like a good idea =)
Jan 30 23:45:02 <Serdar> grml, can't wait for master get finished, too tired.
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