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Nov 22 03:09:11 <jasta> hmm, that's cute.  FeedBurner does not sent Content-Length in their replies.
Nov 22 03:09:28 <jasta> send*
Nov 22 03:13:24 <jasta> something fishy is happening here :\
Nov 22 03:15:17 <jasta> i wanted to use Content-Length to control my calibrate my ProgressBar
Nov 22 03:15:27 <jasta> but it looks like it's very inconsistently set on certain feeds.
Nov 22 03:15:51 <jasta> err, it's consistent at certain feeds, it's just that some feeds never send it.  Wonder why?
Nov 22 03:19:12 <duey> jasta: because they are generated via some script
Nov 22 03:19:14 <duey> e.g. php
Nov 22 03:19:22 <ramvi> Does there exist documentation for java functions? Like php.net just for java... I'm having trouble understanding the difference between java ee, java, java dalvik etc, so please excuse me if my question is stupid in some way
Nov 22 03:19:49 <duey> ramvi: no difference in terms of syntax
Nov 22 03:19:55 <duey> just some features are removed from some
Nov 22 03:20:03 <jasta> duey: They should still be buffering :\
Nov 22 03:20:12 <ramvi> Features as in function?
Nov 22 03:20:14 <duey> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/api/
Nov 22 03:20:18 <jasta> I don't even mean that, damn them for being efficient.
Nov 22 03:20:18 <duey> jasta: no
Nov 22 03:20:28 <duey> its not efficient to buffer..
Nov 22 03:20:37 <duey> well
Nov 22 03:20:38 <jasta> I know that.
Nov 22 03:20:48 <ramvi> sun java j2se is good documentation for use with android?
Nov 22 03:20:58 <duey> buffering is efficient for some things, but not creating rss feeds real time :)
Nov 22 03:21:22 <duey> ramvi: sure, but just beaware that some things might not be in android
Nov 22 03:21:38 <duey> http://code.google.com/android/reference/packages.html
Nov 22 03:21:48 <duey> there is a list of packages there
Nov 22 03:21:52 <duey> but its a pain to view
Nov 22 03:22:00 <ramvi> ah, so dalvik is like a java se lite? So I can use java se's docs
Nov 22 03:22:13 <duey> dalvik is just a post compiler
Nov 22 03:22:18 <duey> as far as i can tell
Nov 22 03:22:28 <duey> it justs makes javac bytecodes better
Nov 22 03:22:46 <duey> obviously packages like swing/awt are removed
Nov 22 03:22:53 <duey> but for the most part its all there
Nov 22 03:23:22 <ramvi> Thanks :)
Nov 22 03:25:11 <ramvi> Say that I for example wanted to make an app that got pictures from flickr. Than I would need some kind of connectToInternet function and downloadXml function. That's what I'll find at the java.sun.com url I got?
Nov 22 03:26:17 <duey> no
Nov 22 03:26:41 <ramvi> ah, the code.google url? (That one looked great)
Nov 22 03:26:42 <duey> http://code.google.com/android/reference/org/apache/commons/httpclient/package-summary.html
Nov 22 03:26:56 <duey> yeah if you like the google docs use them
Nov 22 03:27:01 <duey> i just hate the layout
Nov 22 03:28:40 <ramvi> Ah, so android's page seems to be the thing I'm looking for. Thanks! :) I'm just sitting making different hello world apps :P This will give them more depth! Hello world, here's a flickr photo.
Nov 22 03:28:57 <ramvi> The words I'm looking for are: Thank you very much!
Nov 22 03:29:35 <ramvi> for bearing with me. Most people would flame a "I don't understand antyhing" jerk like me
Nov 22 03:30:10 <duey> heh everyone is new to android :o)
Nov 22 03:30:25 <duey> plus its either talk on irc or do work
Nov 22 03:30:51 <ramvi> But I'm new to java as well :p I've only done a lot of php and there php.net is an amazing resource
Nov 22 03:31:23 <duey> php to java is a pretty easy step
Nov 22 03:32:08 <ramvi> I understand the stucture, just finding it hard to understand what functions I am to make myself and stuff.
Nov 22 03:32:43 <ramvi> You're too kind duey. When I get some of the 10 million dollars you can have some
Nov 22 03:33:41 <duey> lol
Nov 22 03:33:46 <ramvi> hehe
Nov 22 03:33:48 * duey notes that down
Nov 22 03:40:52 <ramvi> Am I correct if I believe there isn't released any wifi documentation yet? As stated here: http://code.google.com/android/toolbox/optional-apis.html
Nov 22 03:43:39 <duey> correct
Nov 22 03:43:50 <ramvi> YES! I like being correct
Nov 22 03:51:15 <Typosu> hah, the android os just crashed.
Nov 22 04:03:50 <Bacta> Hey does the Android SDK provide access to a camera if available?
Nov 22 04:07:16 <duey> Bacta: yes..
Nov 22 04:07:18 <parti> Bacta, yes. Check out the samples
Nov 22 04:07:28 <duey> android.hardware.CameraDevice
Nov 22 04:08:42 <Bacta> nice, when can we expect a phone capable of running this?
Nov 22 05:22:32 <getoo> will android work on iphone
Nov 22 05:22:55 <getoo> can iphone be wiped out and install android on it
Nov 22 05:23:55 <duey> i guess if someone ported it
Nov 22 05:24:16 <duey> why would you want to though
Nov 22 05:24:23 <Dralspire> That's an interesting question, though I suspect working with Apple hardware is gonna be something else :D
Nov 22 05:24:24 <getoo> duey: just wondering
Nov 22 05:24:43 <duey> Dralspire: its all standard cpus and stuff
Nov 22 05:24:46 <getoo> i see that the dev tools work in mac os x also
Nov 22 05:24:54 <duey> yeah...
Nov 22 05:24:55 <Dralspire> Oh ok :-)
Nov 22 05:24:58 <getoo> aswell as windows and linux
Nov 22 05:25:21 <getoo> so why not wipe out iphone and use android on it
Nov 22 05:25:30 <duey> sigh
Nov 22 05:25:39 <duey> because intel cpu != iphone cpu
Nov 22 05:25:48 <getoo> got it
Nov 22 05:26:08 <getoo> i use intel mac , forgot iphone is not the same
Nov 22 05:26:10 <getoo> :)
Nov 22 05:26:54 <rwhitby> and the little details of not knowing the detailed hardware schematics, or internal SoC behaviour of the components that make up the iphone.
Nov 22 05:26:58 <duey> indeed
Nov 22 05:27:15 <rwhitby> all of which is required to port the linux kernel upon which Android runs ...
Nov 22 05:27:51 <rwhitby> Then there is the detail of being able to actually transfer the binary flash image onto the iphone
Nov 22 05:29:06 <getoo> i've read that ATT and Verizon wont participate in android dev
Nov 22 05:29:14 <getoo> in US that is
Nov 22 05:29:25 <getoo> but sprint  t-mobile and the rest are
Nov 22 05:29:27 <getoo> is this true
Nov 22 05:29:52 <rwhitby> they are all mobile operators.  there is no truth.
Nov 22 05:30:29 <rwhitby> (i.e. you won't know for sure until something is actually officially announced)
Nov 22 05:33:20 <getoo> http://www.news.com/Google-unveils-cell-phone-software-and-alliance/2100-1039_3-6217001.html?tag=nefd.lede
Nov 22 05:33:46 <getoo> its called Open Handset alliance
Nov 22 05:33:58 <Dralspire> That it is :-)
Nov 22 05:34:12 <getoo> and ATT and Verizon is not part of it
Nov 22 06:01:58 <Typosu> anyone know how to register handling of certian mimetypes, and get the original url as an argument?
Nov 22 06:03:33 <Typosu> the browser wants to download the file then pass it to me or something (I haven tried to see, Id need to create an sd card image for it to download to...)
Nov 22 06:36:09 <Matrix9> Is every application is associated with an activity, so if you want an application to be constantly running and not stopped if its not active anymore what would you do?
Nov 22 08:49:20 <AWiki001> cscsdf
Nov 22 08:49:36 <Dralspire> morning
Nov 22 08:51:14 <AWiki001> hi
Nov 22 08:51:21 <AWiki001> u there/
Nov 22 08:51:26 <Dralspire> hehe no :P
Nov 22 08:51:32 <AWiki001> what?
Nov 22 08:51:49 <Dralspire> Just joking :-) So, are you having fun with the Android SDK?
Nov 22 08:51:58 <AWiki001> yes
Nov 22 08:52:03 <AWiki001> u from?
Nov 22 08:52:16 * Dralspire lives in the US
Nov 22 08:52:28 <AWiki001> ok
Nov 22 08:52:40 <Dralspire> How about you?
Nov 22 08:52:41 <AWiki001> hey i a doubt
Nov 22 08:53:14 <AWiki001> does the emulator have a chc console
Nov 22 08:53:49 <AWiki001> u there dralspire?
Nov 22 08:54:07 <Dralspire> I am here, I'm hoping somebody else can answer the question :-)
Nov 22 08:54:38 <AWiki001> u started programming on the SDK
Nov 22 08:54:56 <AWiki001> ?
Nov 22 08:55:24 <Dralspire> very little so far, I was working hard in real life, so I got the SDK, but I will only start playing around with it now that we have a holiday in the States
Nov 22 08:55:46 <AWiki001> what holidaY?
Nov 22 08:56:02 <Dralspire> It's Thanksgiving this week Thursday
Nov 22 08:56:08 <AWiki001> ok
Nov 22 08:56:26 <AWiki001> u work for whic organisation?
Nov 22 08:56:41 <Dralspire> I work for a US company :-)
Nov 22 08:56:50 <AWiki001> which one?
Nov 22 08:56:57 <AWiki001> IT field?
Nov 22 08:57:27 <Dralspire> Not primarily IT
Nov 22 08:57:51 <AWiki001> ok
Nov 22 08:58:08 <AWiki001> when did u joint this chat session
Nov 22 08:58:19 <AWiki001> there is no one else other than us
Nov 22 08:58:21 <davidw> what do people say for thanksgiving... it's completely escaped me
Nov 22 08:58:27 <davidw> or do we say anything?
Nov 22 08:58:31 <Dralspire> Happy Thanksgiving?
Nov 22 08:58:38 <davidw> yeah? sounds funny to me though
Nov 22 08:58:42 <Dralspire> "Dig in!!!"
Nov 22 08:58:46 <davidw> yeah!
Nov 22 08:58:57 <AWiki001> david?
Nov 22 08:59:03 <davidw> a friend of mine from Italy asks, and nothing particular comes to mind
Nov 22 08:59:03 <AWiki001> u there?
Nov 22 08:59:15 <AWiki001> david............
Nov 22 08:59:36 <Dralspire> hehe patience :-) It's early/late
Nov 22 08:59:39 <davidw> no, I am but an apparition, a spirit of the ethers called upon to haunt this channel lest you abandon j2me
Nov 22 09:00:12 <AWiki001> hey david
Nov 22 09:00:18 <AWiki001> what u murmurring
Nov 22 09:00:54 <Dralspire> Ok, Hallmark says "Happy Thanksgiving" http://www.hallmark.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchResultsView?storeId=10001&catalogId=10051&N=35+24&Ntt=thanksgiving&Nty=1&Ntk=all_fields&RPP=12
Nov 22 09:01:06 <davidw> that works
Nov 22 09:01:15 <davidw> AWiki001, repent, repent I say!
Nov 22 09:01:23 <AWiki001> what?
Nov 22 09:01:32 <davidw> Or the gosling will eat your soul for breakfast
Nov 22 09:01:35 <AWiki001> hey u all sound so encrypted
Nov 22 09:01:46 <Dralspire> so anyway, the question was "does the emulator have a chc console?"
Nov 22 09:02:41 * davidw hasn't the foggiest idea what 'chc' stands for in this context
Nov 22 09:02:52 <AWiki001> Character
Nov 22 09:03:38 <davidw> you can access the console with adb
Nov 22 09:03:41 <wom-> adb shell?
Nov 22 09:03:42 <AWiki001> line the Terminal in linux
Nov 22 09:04:09 <AWiki001> hey see i wrote System.out.println("dsff');
Nov 22 09:04:16 <AWiki001> in a n exception
Nov 22 09:04:29 <AWiki001> i din't get the output
Nov 22 09:05:01 <AWiki001> there was an exception raised since the program was not executed properly
Nov 22 09:05:15 <davidw> use android.util.Log to output stuff, and then read it with adb logcat
Nov 22 09:06:11 <AWiki001> does what ever i have written will be in the log file now?
Nov 22 09:06:38 <cutmasta> AWiki001, start the app in debug mode and set brekpoint in the catch block
Nov 22 09:06:45 <cutmasta> then look in the exception
Nov 22 09:06:57 * cutmasta prefer running apps in debug mode
Nov 22 09:07:15 <AWiki001> ok
Nov 22 09:10:19 * Dralspire thinks we need a poll for a cute standard username for the people visiting the chat from android wiki :D
Nov 22 09:11:25 <cutmasta> Dralspire, like androidNrXXX
Nov 22 09:11:39 <cutmasta> ;)
Nov 22 09:11:57 <Dralspire> Unfortunately we (typically) only have 8 characters, let me think back why that was
Nov 22 09:13:03 <AWiki001> hey one more doubt
Nov 22 09:13:24 <Dralspire> Sure thing, ask your questions :-)
Nov 22 09:13:29 <AWiki001> i create a database in /data/data/<package_name>/databases
Nov 22 09:13:56 <AWiki001> and store the database name without any extention in FILE object
Nov 22 09:14:25 <AWiki001> but the SQLiteDatabase.open(db,cf); is giving error
Nov 22 09:14:37 <AWiki001> saying database not found
Nov 22 09:15:16 <AWiki001> any suggestions
Nov 22 09:17:44 <AWiki001> anyone please
Nov 22 09:18:01 <davidw> I vote for 'twiki'
Nov 22 09:18:24 <davidw> bidibidibidi - what's up, buck?
Nov 22 09:18:52 <AWiki001> hey david can u please solve the doubt
Nov 22 09:19:07 <davidw> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twiki
Nov 22 09:24:26 <Dralspire> Welcome back :-)
Nov 22 09:26:21 <Android001> what happened?
Nov 22 09:26:44 <Dralspire> No idea :-)
Nov 22 09:27:13 <davidw> we lost r2
Nov 22 09:27:30 <Dralspire> oh noes :D
Nov 22 09:28:08 <Android001> hey man who changed my name
Nov 22 09:28:27 * Dralspire giggles "The tooth fairy"
Nov 22 09:28:49 <Android001> what?
Nov 22 09:29:13 <Dralspire> I changed a setting for the Java script that you are using
Nov 22 09:29:30 <Android001> hey man how can that happen
Nov 22 09:29:35 <Android001> even i can do?
Nov 22 09:29:49 <Dralspire> When you load that page, it reads the settings to configure your chat window, so there :-)
Nov 22 09:30:13 <Android001> but how could u change?
Nov 22 09:30:53 <Dralspire> [04:23] * Quits: AWiki001  <-- you left ... then joined again, at which point you load the configuration again :-)
Nov 22 09:31:41 <Android799> where is the configration file
Nov 22 09:31:50 <Android799> how should i locate it?
Nov 22 09:32:06 <Dralspire> Well, it's actually the page itself ... look at the HTML source code and look for tons of parameters
Nov 22 09:32:23 <Android799> and then how to upload it back
Nov 22 09:32:36 <Dralspire> You can't upload it :-)
Nov 22 09:32:53 <Android799> then how can i change it globally
Nov 22 09:33:12 <Dralspire> Well, as I said, that is a page that you can't change :-)
Nov 22 09:33:24 <Android799> hey u changed it again
Nov 22 09:34:16 <Dralspire> No. Either you lost connection, or reloaded the page. The chat assigns a name Android and xxx digits :-)
Nov 22 09:34:56 <Android799> but previously u it was something other AnWiki
Nov 22 09:35:13 <Dralspire> Yes, as I said, I had changed that
Nov 22 09:35:35 <Android799> so u are the admin here?
Nov 22 09:35:39 <Dralspire> yes
Nov 22 09:35:57 <Android799> its your site?
Nov 22 09:36:32 <Dralspire> I would like to call it a site I have the honor to maintain :-)
Nov 22 09:37:01 <Android799> how did u got that honor????????
Nov 22 09:37:17 <Stephmw> howdy
Nov 22 09:37:24 <Dralspire> Hi Steph
Nov 22 09:37:25 <Android799> what?
Nov 22 09:37:45 <Android799> hey dralspire did u feel bad
Nov 22 09:37:48 <Android799> ?
Nov 22 09:37:53 <Android799> i am sorry abt that
Nov 22 09:38:05 <Dralspire> No, I'm feeling really good actually :-) It's holiday :-)
Nov 22 09:38:26 <Android799> i didn't mean to hurt you
Nov 22 09:38:35 <Dralspire> Hehe you didn't hurt me :-)
Nov 22 09:39:08 <Android001> you started this site?
Nov 22 09:39:41 <Android001> what is the coolest about all these so called wiki sites
Nov 22 09:40:26 <Dralspire> Well, I think of a wiki of a book that gets proofread a lot :-)
Nov 22 09:40:46 <Android001> what's proofread?
Nov 22 09:41:03 <Dralspire> proofread = check / improve / correct errors / update
Nov 22 09:41:31 <Android001> if anyone write some nonsense than what?
Nov 22 09:41:49 <Android001> and in the worst case million reading a wrong info?
Nov 22 09:42:07 <Dralspire> That gets corrected, just like everything else really. If something is wrong, people edit :-)
Nov 22 09:42:34 <Stephmw> it's the 'more eyes, better checks' paradigm
Nov 22 09:42:41 <Stephmw> peer review works the same way
Nov 22 09:42:59 <davidw_> Android001, haven't you ever seen wikipedia?
Nov 22 09:43:03 <Dralspire> hehe see, I can write bad code, post it, and then smart people get to fix it :-)
Nov 22 09:43:14 <Android001> that means info keeps changing accorfing to prejudices
Nov 22 09:43:18 <duey> what is wikipedia
Nov 22 09:43:30 <Dralspire> sounds like a bicycle :D
Nov 22 09:43:50 <Android001> that means info keeps changing accorfing to prejudices
Nov 22 09:44:23 <Dralspire> Of course, it's a community effort
Nov 22 09:45:02 <Android001> that means prejudice are more important than facts?
Nov 22 09:45:39 <Dralspire> When it comes to programming (or other types of logic really), you can easily verify whether something is correct or not -> does it work?
Nov 22 09:45:58 <Android001> yes
Nov 22 09:46:34 <Android001> but programming is what it is..but facts exist and not based on trial error
Nov 22 09:49:03 <Stephmw> tell that to the pro-life/pro-choice debate
Nov 22 09:49:10 * Dralspire giggles
Nov 22 09:50:00 <Android001> i sounded too boring
Nov 22 09:53:05 <Dralspire> So how is your database problem coming along?
Nov 22 09:59:26 <Android001> still problem
Nov 22 09:59:39 <Android001> i am able to open the db
Nov 22 10:00:50 <Android001> no i am not able to open
Nov 22 10:00:54 <Android001> the db
Nov 22 10:07:15 <Android001> anybody there?
Nov 22 10:11:02 <Stephmw> sure, but probably nobody knows the answers
Nov 22 10:13:45 <davidw> I think Stephmw knows the answers - you just have to pester him a lot
Nov 22 10:13:54 * Dralspire giggles
Nov 22 10:14:45 <Dralspire> Anyway, time for a nappie ... So good night, and don't let the significant other bite ... hard :D
Nov 22 10:15:45 <Stephmw> ... nappies are what you put on babies
Nov 22 10:15:54 <Stephmw> ewww, smelly!
Nov 22 11:00:09 <rwhitby> I vote "NewbieNNN" for the usernames of people coming into IRC from a wiki page ...
Nov 22 11:04:53 <swetland> or a SHA-1 hash of their IP and a random number ^^
Nov 22 11:15:51 <ScaredyCat> http://benno.id.au/blog/2007/11/21/android-neo1973
Nov 22 11:16:15 <ScaredyCat> now, enough of the excuses Google, give us the farking source
Nov 22 11:17:44 <jeddy3> second that :) ...or a ARMv4 version =)
Nov 22 11:47:02 <Nescio> Hello
Nov 22 11:47:35 <zoolooc> hi
Nov 22 11:48:42 <Nescio> How goes?
Nov 22 11:49:41 <zoolooc> Nescio: lot of work to do, I'm just a guest here...
Nov 22 11:50:09 <Nescio> :)
Nov 22 11:53:17 <swetland> it is late. that is how it goes.
Nov 22 11:53:35 <Nescio> haha, early for me - but I feel ya
Nov 22 11:54:46 <davidw> I want the sources too:http://journal.dedasys.com/articles/2007/11/22/android-hecl-and-scripting - at the very least of the java stuff
Nov 22 11:56:51 <Nescio> davidw: did you ever get your question answered y'day
Nov 22 11:57:12 <davidw> Nescio, nope... those guys are probably mostly headed out for the holiday
Nov 22 11:57:21 <Nescio> true
Nov 22 12:18:40 <davidw> I really wish they'd fix the javascript on the web pages, too
Nov 22 12:21:33 <Nescio> yea
Nov 22 12:21:34 <Nescio> >.<
Nov 22 12:32:42 <davidw> hell yeah...it works...go me:-)  lunch time
Nov 22 12:34:56 <Nescio> grats :)
Nov 22 13:30:52 <Stephmw> davidw: interesting development, http://gnu.wildebeest.org/diary/2007/11/22/free-your-iphone/
Nov 22 13:32:46 <davidw> neat
Nov 22 13:36:25 <Dralspire> That's rather interesting :-)
Nov 22 14:26:34 <davidw> sheez... morrild is posting to the devel group on thanksgiving
Nov 22 14:43:42 <davidw> hrm hrm hrm....
Nov 22 14:50:09 <davidw> if you instantiate a Button or some other widget in Java... prior to doing addview, you need to give it layoutparams that match the layout type that it's being added to
Nov 22 14:56:50 <haavi> yea the layoutparams goes into the second parameter of addview
Nov 22 14:59:02 <haavi> what I find odd is that it's not possible to set a margins with layoutparams for some layouts
Nov 22 14:59:29 <haavi> like with LinearLayout, it only takes width height and weight
Nov 22 15:03:56 <CM> Hmm.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stgA7gB7quY
Nov 22 15:03:58 <edcba> YouTube - Android on Armadillo-500
Nov 22 15:04:12 <CM> edcba: :)
Nov 22 17:14:44 <Valda> welcome surial :p
Nov 22 17:15:24 <Lede> moo!
Nov 22 17:32:27 <davidw> dammit, I'm sick of this f*&*& javascript sucking all my cpu
Nov 22 17:34:28 <Stephmw> davidw: what's the error condition?
Nov 22 17:34:35 <davidw> it's not an error
Nov 22 17:37:00 <davidw> http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/130a7a8c8d4bc649/c5bb2e51886829ff?lnk=gst&q=battery+eating+website#c5bb2e51886829ff
Nov 22 17:39:02 <haavi> agreed, it's soo slow
Nov 22 17:39:42 <haavi> and opening a new tab for every search result doesn't help either
Nov 22 17:40:00 <haavi> but perhaps that's a FF setting
Nov 22 17:49:33 <Lede> haavi: new window here
Nov 22 17:50:07 <haavi> ok, yeah I noticed I had FF open new tabs instead of new windows
Nov 22 17:51:17 <haavi> they add up quite fast since I never bother to close the one with the search results
Nov 22 18:24:39 <bas0> hello, I'm new to android. I 1st would to create a list of links (it should be a menu for my app)
Nov 22 18:24:48 <bas0> anyone can help me?
Nov 22 18:26:47 <erus`> erm
Nov 22 18:27:00 <erus`> listbox :)
Nov 22 18:27:31 <erus`> catch the click event
Nov 22 18:28:11 <erus`> get list id and then whey hey bobs your uncle
Nov 22 18:29:31 <erus`> fucking visual studio wont even close without crashing
Nov 22 18:29:53 <erus`> peice of shit
Nov 22 18:30:26 <xbit> if you're closing it anyways it doesn't matter, does it*?
Nov 22 18:30:57 <erus`> well it does because it hangs and *sorry wrong channel*
Nov 22 18:31:19 <erus`> opensource software here i come :D
Nov 22 18:36:26 <nbd> well, android isn't open source yet :P
Nov 22 18:39:02 <Lede> open sores
Nov 22 19:16:26 <Dralspire> lol Lede is such a comedian :-)
Nov 22 19:36:20 <Stephmw> evenin'
Nov 22 19:47:02 <Dralspire> hi hi
Nov 22 19:47:54 <erus`> yo yo
Nov 22 20:15:01 <tumdum> hello
Nov 22 20:34:07 <bas0> hello, I would like to create a menu just like API Demos menu. Is there some source code somewhere?
Nov 22 20:34:47 <xbit> isn't the sources for the demos in the sdk?
Nov 22 20:35:31 <bas0> xbit, but I didn't find the source of API Demos menu
Nov 22 20:38:02 <davidw> well, then you aren't allowed to do it
Nov 22 20:40:13 <cybereagle> http://code.google.com/android/kb/commontasks.html#addmenuitems  that might be what you're looking for
Nov 22 20:43:16 <bas0> davidw, I'm not allowed to do a menu like the "main menu"? seems strange..
Nov 22 20:43:35 <davidw> look in the samples directory
Nov 22 20:43:53 <bas0> cybereagle, that code creates the little menu that opens with the menu button..
Nov 22 20:44:32 <cybereagle> oh sorry i thought thats what you were looking for
Nov 22 20:45:15 <cybereagle> i think the menu in the api demo is just a ListView, but i'm not certain
Nov 22 20:45:35 <bas0> mmh.. ok..
Nov 22 20:46:02 <cybereagle> yeah here it is, samples\ApiDemos\src\com\google\android\samples\ApiDemos.java
Nov 22 20:46:10 <cybereagle> looks like its a ListActivity
Nov 22 20:47:44 <bas0> thanks
Nov 22 20:55:49 <tumdum> is there some kind of minimal hardware spec. for android?
Nov 22 21:00:28 <jasta> I have a question about View#setId
Nov 22 21:00:51 <Dralspire> turndum: http://androidwiki.com/wiki/Handsets
Nov 22 21:01:14 <jasta> The documentation suggests that the number does not need to be unique in the view's hierarchy, but if that's true, what is it unique too?  only items that are direct children?
Nov 22 21:01:36 <jasta> That can't be true, since layouts defined in the XML file can be nested several layers and the ids are still meaningful.
Nov 22 21:02:37 <jasta> or perhaps it searches siblings first, then children, then children's children, until a match is found.
Nov 22 21:03:14 <jasta> so each layer doesn't need to be unique if you understand that convention?
Nov 22 21:22:19 <tumdum> Dralspire: thx
Nov 22 22:11:50 <vershun> Can anyone give me an idea of where to look in the API if I wanted to grab the voice streams from conversations?
Nov 22 22:12:18 <jasta> RelativeLayout's mystify me man...
Nov 22 22:17:08 <davidw> yeah?
Nov 22 22:17:29 <jasta> no specific question, i just constantly screw up my layout using them :)
Nov 22 22:42:29 <davidw> sweet...got hecl doing widgets...well, a button at least:-)
Nov 22 22:46:53 <haavi> only some 100 widgets to go then
Nov 22 22:47:52 <davidw> nah, using reflection to get lots of stuff automatically
Nov 22 22:48:25 <haavi> ok ;)
Nov 22 22:49:44 <haavi> hmmz, I can't get text.util.Linkify to work like I want when I pass a CheckBox to it instead of a TextView
Nov 22 22:50:24 <haavi> the text gets linkified but you can't click on them because of the CheckBox listener
Nov 22 22:51:23 <haavi> anyone played around with this?
Nov 22 22:52:35 <haavi> Clicking the damn links only checks the CheckBox :(
Nov 22 22:53:38 <cybereagle> i havent played with it, but off the top of my head maybe an onKeyDown() would fudge it
Nov 22 22:54:16 <haavi> ok, I'll take a look at that
Nov 22 22:54:31 <haavi> thanks
Nov 22 23:24:19 <rwhitby> Is the author of http://thats-the-way-it-is.blogspot.com/ here?
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