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Dec 13 05:35:54 <jasta> Luniv: finally implementing my downloadmanager (manages the number of connections made to refresh all feeds)
Dec 13 08:43:24 <jasta> creepy.  that code worked on the first try.
Dec 13 08:47:54 <jeddy3> hmmm, that can't be good :S
Dec 13 08:48:49 <jasta> the code is non-trivial too.  invokes threads and interacts with the main thread's Handler.
Dec 13 08:49:15 <jasta> i am seriously weirded out :)  i should go to bed before any demons leap out of my machine.
Dec 13 08:49:35 <jeddy3> :D
Dec 13 09:00:51 <jasta> hmm, there is one slight bug :)
Dec 13 09:01:04 <jasta> or rather, it's not implemented precisely how i had imagined.
Dec 13 09:08:35 <jeddy3> ...phew :)
Dec 13 09:11:49 <jasta> works now.  trivial change :)
Dec 13 09:16:14 <jasta> alright, committed.
Dec 13 09:28:08 <jasta> hmm, TextView#setText(Cursor, int) is just shorthand for .setText(Cursor.getString(int)) right?  It doesn't actually associate the cursor with that view and manage it, right?
Dec 13 09:43:11 <FunnyLookinHat> jasta, right about the time you start talking to yourself in IRC to debug your code is really when demons have already begun leaping out of your computer...   ; )
Dec 13 09:44:32 <jasta> oh yes ;)
Dec 13 09:45:40 <davidw> 'morning
Dec 13 09:46:44 <davidw> sounds closely related to nasal demons
Dec 13 09:46:48 <davidw> malloc(0)
Dec 13 13:28:44 <andrea1> hi *
Dec 13 15:59:41 <davidw> bengl, want to have a go at the Hecl app as it currently stands?
Dec 13 16:13:06 <vikram> andoir
Dec 13 16:13:33 <vikram> hi has any one developed ant new application in android
Dec 13 16:14:16 <vikram> hi has any one developed any new application in android?
Dec 13 16:14:30 * absentia is trying.
Dec 13 16:29:00 <d03boy> umm im sure lots of pepole have
Dec 13 16:37:31 <jasta> vikram: Yes, many people are.  Look at googlecode.com, label:android.
Dec 13 16:37:37 <jasta> or just search for android.
Dec 13 16:38:56 <jasta> actually, their search sucks, nevermind.
Dec 13 16:39:33 <jasta> code.google.com/hosting, there we go.
Dec 13 16:39:58 <jasta> incidentally, my project is on top :)
Dec 13 17:39:45 <davidw> ok, this is weird...loading resources is funky
Dec 13 18:07:24 <Yeggstry> nice ap jasta
Dec 13 18:09:34 <Yeggstry> are you going to be submitting it to the challenge?
Dec 13 18:14:17 <Lede> hm
Dec 13 18:14:35 <Lede> maybe i should put my project on code.google.com aswell
Dec 13 18:15:53 <Yeggstry> I was thinking something similar
Dec 13 18:16:14 <Yeggstry> granted its only me playing around with OpenGL for now
Dec 13 18:16:47 <Yeggstry> but I don't think I'm very far away from being able to reproduce something similar to the interface that apple uses with their album carousel
Dec 13 18:17:10 <Yeggstry> just need to do text, and to find a way of loading the images faster
Dec 13 18:17:36 <Lede> how broken is opengl :P ?
Dec 13 18:18:32 <Yeggstry> I don't know, this is my first attempt at using it :)
Dec 13 18:18:45 <Yeggstry> I've never done any mobile app work before
Dec 13 18:24:35 <Yeggstry> nice challenge though :)
Dec 13 18:29:06 * davidw is going to submit Hecl, and count in anyone who works on it
Dec 13 18:29:17 <Yeggstry> Hecl?
Dec 13 18:31:03 <davidw> www.hecl.org
Dec 13 18:31:53 <Yeggstry> you've adapted it for android?
Dec 13 18:32:46 <davidw> yes
Dec 13 18:33:10 <benley> sweet
Dec 13 18:33:20 <benley> is there an apk available to play with?
Dec 13 18:34:43 <Yeggstry> cool
Dec 13 18:34:46 <davidw> if you give me some feedback:-)
Dec 13 18:36:33 <benley> I could certainly try :)
Dec 13 18:36:56 <Lede> davidw: what is that cartoon figures name again? http://www.hecl.org/hecl-look-left.png
Dec 13 18:37:09 <davidw> Heckle and Jeckel, or something like that
Dec 13 18:37:19 <benley> every time I see that, I think "there's more than cooooooorn in Indiana"
Dec 13 18:37:58 <Lede> it reminds me saturday morning cartoons
Dec 13 18:38:03 <Lede> of*
Dec 13 18:50:01 <davidw> benley, http://www.dedasys.com/Hecl.apk
Dec 13 18:50:40 <benley> woot
Dec 13 18:50:52 <benley> I've never played with hecl before, actually
Dec 13 18:51:57 <davidw> this is more a demo of Hecl on Android...
Dec 13 18:52:05 <davidw> it's very bleeding edge!
Dec 13 18:52:27 <davidw> the cool thing though is that you don't have to recompile, you can just use 'zip' to replace the script
Dec 13 18:54:37 <benley> cool.
Dec 13 19:02:25 <davidw> http://venturebeat.com/2007/12/12/googles-wireless-chief-sacca-leaves-to-become-angel-investor/
Dec 13 19:06:32 <benley> hm. sacca just had his 4th google birthday recently.
Dec 13 19:07:34 <Lede> what is "angel investing"
Dec 13 19:08:17 <Lede> investing without wanting anything in return?
Dec 13 19:09:44 <rangen> not quite =) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angel_investor
Dec 13 19:11:37 <Lede> rangen: not so angelic :P
Dec 13 19:13:44 <rangen> well there is family, friends and fools. and venture capital firms. angels are somewhere in between
Dec 13 19:19:22 <morrildl> rwhitby: only 85 users?
Dec 13 19:19:34 <Yeggstry> lo morrildl :)
Dec 13 19:19:40 <morrildl> rwhitby: better check into the health of your bots ;)
Dec 13 19:19:48 <morrildl> hi Yeggstry
Dec 13 19:20:02 <Yeggstry> will you be at the google hack on thursday?
Dec 13 19:20:27 <Yeggstry> the android hack that is
Dec 13 19:20:28 <morrildl> Yeggstry: not sure which one you're talking about
Dec 13 19:20:38 <morrildl> Yeggstry: where is it?
Dec 13 19:20:41 <Yeggstry> london
Dec 13 19:20:54 <jasta> Yeggstry: *backlog* No, I'm not submitting that project for the android dev challenge.  I have other, bigger ideas for that.
Dec 13 19:21:03 <Yeggstry> cool :)
Dec 13 19:21:11 <morrildl> Yeggstry: ahh, no but Dick Wall should be there
Dec 13 19:21:16 <morrildl> Yeggstry: are yo ugoing?
Dec 13 19:21:18 <Yeggstry> cool :)
Dec 13 19:21:19 <jasta> Yeggstry: But, I plan to have that project open as well.
Dec 13 19:21:24 <Yeggstry> yup, signed up yesterday
Dec 13 19:22:06 <jasta> What Google Hack?
Dec 13 19:22:26 <jasta> Oh, in London.  Feh.  When are they coming to Seattle? :)
Dec 13 19:22:35 <Yeggstry> http://services.google.com/events/android_hacknight
Dec 13 19:23:10 <Yeggstry> I think once I've tidied this code up that I've done I'm going to submit it to google code as well
Dec 13 19:23:31 <jasta> Might as well submit it untidied, but just not announce it.
Dec 13 19:23:58 <jasta> Working outside of version control is crazy :)
Dec 13 19:24:07 <Yeggstry> yeah was just about to say that :)
Dec 13 19:26:18 <Yeggstry> I would need some free images to use though, not sure using album covers would make me popular :P
Dec 13 19:28:01 <jasta> What is your project?
Dec 13 19:29:26 <Yeggstry> its just me playing with opengl and android, for now its an image carousel
Dec 13 19:31:57 <Yeggstry> its an aspect I wanted to play with for a larger project for the challenge :)
Dec 13 19:32:33 <guardian> hi
Dec 13 19:32:49 <Yeggstry> lo0
Dec 13 19:33:03 <guardian> morrildl: hi, you around ?
Dec 13 19:37:32 <morrildl> guardian: yup
Dec 13 19:38:20 <guardian> morrildl: do you have any opinion on the email sent to stve, raphael and you ?
Dec 13 19:38:27 <guardian> i'm very curious
Dec 13 19:38:28 <guardian> :)
Dec 13 19:38:54 <Stephmw> you might have to be a little more specific... morrildl, how many emails do you get in a day? :D
Dec 13 19:40:13 <Lede> -546543
Dec 13 19:40:18 <Lede> (integer overflow)
Dec 13 19:40:19 <Lede> :P
Dec 13 19:45:54 <morrildl> a lot
Dec 13 19:46:03 <morrildl> I prefer not to actually know the specific number :)
Dec 13 19:48:01 <Lede> morrildl: do you google folks use gmail?
Dec 13 19:48:10 <morrildl> Lede: yup
Dec 13 19:48:16 <Yeggstry> as the main email account?
Dec 13 19:48:59 <Yeggstry> well, I guess you would only have yourselves to blame if it goes down :)
Dec 13 19:48:59 <Lede> interesting
Dec 13 19:49:22 <morrildl> Yeggstry: yes, as our primary email system
Dec 13 19:49:26 <Yeggstry> :)
Dec 13 19:49:54 <Yeggstry> oh by the way, one thing that is very frustrating is logcat desynching from eclipse
Dec 13 19:50:07 <Yeggstry> only way I've found is to restart the system to resynch it
Dec 13 20:01:00 <davidw> benley, did that apk work out?
Dec 13 20:01:13 <benley> it works for me on my somewhat-outdated sdk
Dec 13 20:01:35 <benley> I haven't tried to do anything fancy with it yet
Dec 13 20:06:07 <davidw> cool!
Dec 13 20:15:50 <davidw> hrm... I should do something about storage before releasing this for early adopters
Dec 13 20:28:01 <Stephmw> davidw: you're really pushing hecl on the mailing list :D
Dec 13 20:29:34 <davidw> just wait
Dec 13 21:01:31 <jerkface03> he likes you hecl you about hecl
Dec 13 21:01:42 <jerkface03> he likes to*
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