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Dec 14 08:32:33 <guardian> morning
Dec 14 08:33:49 <Yeggstry> lo
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Dec 14 15:02:29 <absentia> nthis makes me sad:  /win grow 3
Dec 14 15:02:48 <absentia> wow.. that was not meant to be sent.
Dec 14 15:19:35 <dims> they were not kidding when they said that there is more and more features in the pipeline for the SDK.
Dec 14 15:19:36 <dims> http://davanum.wordpress.com/2007/12/14/android-accessing-the-system-services/
Dec 14 15:31:08 <absentia> I just want to be able to devlop using c++
Dec 14 15:31:09 <absentia> :-)
Dec 14 15:31:56 <absentia> all of those system items are documented.
Dec 14 15:39:57 <davidw> dims +1
Dec 14 16:01:21 <dims> absentia: where?
Dec 14 16:01:32 <dims> absentia: i saw javadocs for just 2 of them
Dec 14 16:01:46 <dims> absentia: i saw javadocs for just a few of them
Dec 14 16:12:40 <absentia> well, the docs are minimal.. but I thought I rea somewhere about each of those.. accessing the system... usb, etc.
Dec 14 16:14:37 <dims> absentia: not there my friend :), btw, for now, you can use JNI till we get more sources to look at (for developing with C++)
Dec 14 16:15:12 <absentia> well the only thing is, it doesn't seem like it's going to be blessed
Dec 14 16:16:40 <dims> if the code is under Apache License, "blessing" is not exactly required :)
Dec 14 16:17:23 <absentia> ok
Dec 14 16:18:53 <davidw> it all depends on the phones shipped, I guess
Dec 14 16:19:17 <davidw> I mean... if all the handset guys hack stuff so that only java works, for instance, then you're screwed in any case
Dec 14 16:19:28 <davidw> but we simply don't know that yet
Dec 14 16:19:29 <absentia> true
Dec 14 16:19:48 <absentia> arm-2007q3-53-arm-none-eabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2
Dec 14 16:45:40 <davidw> if it's java, it's going to work even if they use another processor, too
Dec 14 17:33:03 <Lede> morrildl: the official android blog should be updated more often! :P
Dec 14 17:33:16 <Lede> (unless there is really nothing to report)
Dec 14 17:35:13 <davidw> these aren't the androids you want to read about, now move along
Dec 15 00:18:53 <Lede> why is showAlert() non-blocking >_>;
Dec 15 00:32:17 <Lede> it also needs to support resource id instead of charsequence :(
Dec 15 00:44:23 <romainguy> Lede: it also needs to support resource id instead of charsequence < this has been fixed
Dec 15 00:50:11 <Lede> romainguy: yay :)
Dec 15 00:50:43 <Lede> romainguy: when will there be a new update
Dec 15 00:50:56 <romainguy> I cannot talk about that
Dec 15 00:51:08 <romainguy> You can go to code.google.com/android for more information :)
Dec 15 00:51:08 <Lede> that's oke, i can wait
Dec 15 00:57:56 <Lede> romainguy: i don't know if i'm using Intent's putExtra() method for the wrong purpose, but will there be support for storing anything derived from Object into it? currently it can only hold a string, integer or hash map as value ..
Dec 15 01:06:26 <Lede> ofcourse i may be stretching the definition of "extra" here, and should just keep it with simple objects
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