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Jan 31 04:22:34 <michaelnovakjr> yawn
Jan 31 04:52:17 <jerkface03> Is there anyway to draw on the Canvas of a specific view without having onDraw called first? is there a way to grab a permenant Canvas object for that view nad use it whenever you need to draw to that canvas?
Jan 31 05:47:35 <jasta> jerkface03: how would that work?  what if the view disappeared?
Jan 31 05:48:01 <jerkface03> Canvas would draw to nowhere
Jan 31 05:48:09 <jerkface03> anyways forget about that. how about this one
Jan 31 05:48:20 <jasta> that is not how the drawing mechanism works, certainly.
Jan 31 05:48:32 <jerkface03> ui inputs/events are all handled by one thread, correct?
Jan 31 05:48:42 <jasta> yes.
Jan 31 05:49:37 <jerkface03> so i don't need to synch between onDraw and onKeyDown and stuff like that?
Jan 31 05:50:27 <jasta> sync what?
Jan 31 05:52:19 <jerkface03> synchronize
Jan 31 05:52:22 <jerkface03> critical sections
Jan 31 05:52:28 <jerkface03> you know what im talking about
Jan 31 05:52:37 <jasta> No, there is no need to worry about concurrency in the UI thread.
Jan 31 05:52:45 <jerkface03> awesome
Jan 31 05:52:45 <jerkface03> k
Jan 31 05:52:46 <jerkface03> ty
Jan 31 06:28:11 <romainguy____> re
Jan 31 06:28:22 <romainguy____> jerkface03: jyes you can
Jan 31 06:28:32 <romainguy____> jerkface03: you can create a Canvas from a Bitmap
Jan 31 06:29:10 <jerkface03> right, and then i would just dump that bitmap to a view at will?
Jan 31 06:29:21 <jerkface03> and in essence that would be double buffering?
Jan 31 06:29:41 <jerkface03> or do the canvas objects passed to onDraw() already have a double buffering mechanism?
Jan 31 06:29:41 <romainguy____> yep
Jan 31 06:30:12 <romainguy____> there's a double buffer at the surface level
Jan 31 06:31:12 <romainguy____> and the next SDK will also provide new mechanisms to cache views in bitmaps
Jan 31 06:32:49 <jerkface03> not too sure i follow. the next SDK will give you the direct reference to the bitmap object assigned to the view?
Jan 31 06:32:55 <romainguy> no
Jan 31 06:33:27 <romainguy____> you'll see :)
Jan 31 06:34:30 <jerkface03> hrm k. im just thinking of the best way to do a game loop under the android architecture. i might just end up copying the lunarlander base :X
Jan 31 06:36:59 <romainguy____> jerkface03: Lunar Lander has a speed issue though
Jan 31 06:37:06 <romainguy____> the background is scaled on each draw
Jan 31 06:39:04 <jerkface03> aye. doesn't seem so slow to me. but i'll make sure to avoid any scaling when i strip it down and refactor it.
Jan 31 06:39:32 <jerkface03> i just need some sort of a base to begin with
Jan 31 06:41:50 <jasta> romainguy____: btw, i think you guys have been doing really great work so far.  i'm very pleased with how this platform is progressing.
Jan 31 09:08:32 <jasta> hmm, 1am, time for bed.
Jan 31 09:10:14 <supermario> mornin
Jan 31 09:11:12 <jasta> don't encourage me ;)
Jan 31 09:12:27 <supermario> :)
Jan 31 11:56:34 <mike1o> creating a content provider is fun!
Jan 31 15:59:50 <romainguy> jasta: thanks, I appreciate
Jan 31 16:21:00 <zhobbs> I'm trying to set the textColor in a theme, but for some reason it doesn't change the colors of TextViews in the activity...
Jan 31 16:34:13 <zhobbs> I think textColor is broken
Jan 31 16:37:07 <zhobbs> hmm, guess it doesn't work if inheriting a theme...
Jan 31 17:28:01 <Lede> good evening
Jan 31 19:38:11 <davidw> damn
Jan 31 19:38:27 <davidw> I wish it were possible to catch outgoing calls:-/
Jan 31 19:40:00 <Stephmw> regretting that prank call to 999?
Jan 31 19:40:39 <winksaville> Not sure I want my phone tracking everything I do
Jan 31 19:41:27 <winksaville> on the other hand the your cell phone provider already is, so maybe we just get use to having Big Brother watching our ever move
Jan 31 19:42:53 <winksaville> whoops, "every move" and call and ...
Jan 31 19:50:36 <davidw> Stephmw, what's 999?
Jan 31 19:50:59 <Stephmw> davidw: emergency number in the UK... 911 in the US, 112 worldwide
Jan 31 19:51:02 <davidw> ah ok
Jan 31 20:22:20 <frb-work> greetings and salutation
Jan 31 20:22:22 <frb-work> s
Jan 31 20:22:51 <frb-work> I'm trying to find more info on how power management works on android, the only APIs I've found are for the location, and for setting WakeLocks
Jan 31 20:38:23 <kristian-m> Stephmw isn't it 0118 999 881 999 119 7253? ;-)
Jan 31 21:36:00 <michaelnovakjr> howdy
Jan 31 21:36:32 <zhobbs> hello
Jan 31 21:37:34 <michaelnovakjr> how's it going on the challenge
Jan 31 21:37:56 <zhobbs> It's going
Jan 31 21:38:11 <zhobbs> having a hard time horizontally centering a view inside a scrollview
Jan 31 21:38:34 <duey> http://www.oleswanson.com/images/office/procrastination.jpg
Jan 31 21:39:18 <zhobbs> exactly
Jan 31 21:39:30 <zhobbs> just what I'm thinking
Jan 31 21:39:54 <davidw> hehehe
Jan 31 21:41:21 <zhobbs> I love those
Jan 31 21:43:16 <zhobbs> http://despair.com/burnout.html
Jan 31 22:53:33 <Lulu> hellllooooo
Jan 31 22:53:49 <romainguy_> hi
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