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Feb 02 03:31:53 <Garett> is there a simple way to determine a user's XMPP username?
Feb 02 03:54:39 <Garett> is there a unique identifier that can be used to identify a phone?
Feb 02 05:05:06 <Garett> anyone here familiar with the xmpp functionality?
Feb 02 05:44:41 <nsfx> any google employees present?
Feb 02 07:17:13 <michaelnovakjr> howdy
Feb 02 08:07:06 <romainguy> nsfx: yes?
Feb 02 23:11:26 <Garett> does anybody know of any sort of identifier can be used to uniquely identify a user or phone?
Feb 02 23:23:45 <meus> Garett: well you always got IMEI, but that follows the phone not the user.
Feb 02 23:24:36 <meus> not sure if every type of  phone has it either. wikipedia says it is GSM and UMTS.
Feb 02 23:25:35 <Garett> hmm
Feb 02 23:25:42 <Garett> what about a unique application id?
Feb 02 23:26:34 <Garett> i see you can do a getUniqueId as seen here: http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/database/sqlite/SQLiteProgram.html
Feb 02 23:26:50 <Garett> but woudl that be unique for the application, but common for all instances of that application?
Feb 02 23:27:03 <Garett> it would be ok if it was always different for every instance of an app
Feb 02 23:31:16 <meus> hmm, it could mean both I guess
Feb 02 23:31:17 <Garett> doesn't look like we have access to information on the SIM
Feb 02 23:31:27 <Garett> so the IMEI idea is out
Feb 02 23:31:46 <Stephmw> generally the IMEI is exposed in other ways
Feb 02 23:31:56 <Stephmw> in J2ME it's via system properties
Feb 02 23:32:03 <Garett> hmm
Feb 02 23:32:20 <Stephmw> the emulator probably doesn't have anything like that atm
Feb 02 23:32:59 <Garett> the bets way to identify a user i guess is by their XMPP username, but that is only available if they specify it... it doesn't help for users who havent' set that up yet
Feb 02 23:33:46 <Garett> it would be really nice to identify them too if possible
Feb 02 23:33:51 <Stephmw> gonna have to wait for dna scanning ;)
Feb 02 23:33:56 <Garett> heh
Feb 02 23:34:53 <Stephmw> do you have a basis for thinking that the phone's user will change?
Feb 02 23:35:45 <Garett> ya... that's definitely a possiblity -- and that's hwy the XMPP thing is the best solution
Feb 02 23:35:59 <davidw> anything like what?
Feb 02 23:36:06 <Garett> and an IMEI thing would work well too in those situations
Feb 02 23:36:16 <Garett> because that's on the SIM card that usually follows the owner
Feb 02 23:36:29 <davidw> isn't it a phone thing, not a sim thing?
Feb 02 23:36:46 <Garett> i thought it was stored on the sim?
Feb 02 23:36:47 <davidw> so that they can still talk to the phone even if it gets stolen/the sim swapped out
Feb 02 23:37:04 <Garett> hmm
Feb 02 23:37:20 <Garett> i guess i should do some more research
Feb 02 23:38:39 <Garett> can we get the users phone number?
Feb 02 23:39:12 <Stephmw> that's a network service
Feb 02 23:39:15 <Stephmw> so... sometimes
Feb 02 23:39:47 <Garett>  android.os.SystemProperties.get(android.telephony.TelephonyProperties.PROPERTY_LINE1_NUMBER);
Feb 02 23:40:25 <davidw> set number [sysprops get [telprops -field PROPERTY_LINE1_NUMBER]]
Feb 02 23:40:41 <davidw> sleep time
Feb 02 23:41:53 <Garett> ok.. this might work ok for users who haven't set up their
Feb 02 23:41:56 <Garett> xmpp address
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