**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 16 02:59:56 2008 Mar 16 03:38:26 i thoght jasta was going skiing Mar 16 04:20:24 hey, im starting development on android, is there a simple way to output text to screen? Rather than doing it like the helloworld example Mar 16 04:20:35 i just want to see a string for debugging purposes Mar 16 04:20:47 Log.d("MyApp", "sup world"); // debug style Mar 16 04:20:52 Log.e("MyApp", "sup world"); // error style Mar 16 04:21:05 fire up 'adb logcat' in a box Mar 16 04:21:07 to see it Mar 16 04:21:15 won't be displayed in the emulator UI Mar 16 04:26:30 thanks Mar 16 05:46:54 is this a good place to ask dev questions? Mar 16 05:47:32 we bite Mar 16 05:49:22 so i have a listadapter similar to the approach twolinelistitem takes (a list item expands when selected). scrolling using the keypad works great, but when i "clikc" on items the view seems to lag by one step, almost as if it the screen isnt being re-laid-out Mar 16 05:49:38 in m3, there was forcelayout() that worked perfect as a solution to this Mar 16 05:49:45 but its gone in m5 :/ Mar 16 05:50:09 you need to click the emulator once Mar 16 05:50:12 if it is out of focus Mar 16 05:50:34 im postinvalidate()'ing and requestlayout()'ing both parent and the root view element Mar 16 05:50:55 hmm ive noticed that out-of-focus problem, but this happens even after multiple clicks Mar 16 05:53:05 and when i go back to using the keypad, it shows that the clicking did work, because it moves the selection based on the last clicked element Mar 16 05:53:23 its just that somehow the view doesnt think it needs to re-layout itself Mar 16 05:54:21 clicking an item with the touch screen in a listview does not select it Mar 16 05:54:42 there is no concept of selection in touch mode Mar 16 05:55:01 hmm should there be? Mar 16 05:55:08 umdk1d4: forceLayout() is back in the next SDK, but you should never use it :) Mar 16 05:55:11 umdk1d4: no Mar 16 05:55:45 okay :/ Mar 16 05:56:19 umdk1d4: keeping a selection or a focus in touch mode causes numerous design and interaction problems Mar 16 05:57:41 well even without the touch-selection, the keypad still isnt working the way i expected Mar 16 05:57:49 my expanding list elements have buttons Mar 16 05:58:01 in m3, i could up/down the list, then left/right through the shown buttons Mar 16 05:58:05 for that list item Mar 16 05:58:29 in m5, left/right jumps across my tabs, meaning the user needs to tab on the shown buttons Mar 16 05:58:55 it seems weird to make them use the keypad selecting the item, then touch for the buttons Mar 16 05:59:29 when you use tabs you should avoid that kind of UI Mar 16 15:54:20 Morning, Where can i find the file to configure the GPS for the emulator? Mar 16 17:35:26 is there no more notes field in m5 ? Mar 16 17:35:31 in the contacts Mar 16 20:02:20 hey chaps Mar 16 20:02:41 does the eclipse plugin support loading things into the emulator via adb somewhere? Mar 16 21:38:02 wow ;) Mar 16 22:52:32 anyone awake? Mar 16 22:53:04 nope. Mar 16 22:53:31 romainguy: are the devices going to have FPUs? Mar 16 22:53:47 or is fp math going to be done thru the software? Mar 16 22:57:39 it will depend on the manufacturers Mar 16 22:57:49 but you should avoid fp maths as much as you can Mar 16 22:58:06 i am ;P Mar 16 22:58:15 most of my stuff is written using fixed point Mar 16 22:58:42 what are you writing? Mar 16 22:59:45 well i've written fixedpoint squarerooting + fixedpoint sinewave generator to aide in things like collision Mar 16 23:00:01 I mean, what application are you writing Mar 16 23:00:26 multiplayer twitch game to be played over the internet Mar 16 23:00:46 a bomberman-style game Mar 16 23:33:08 I've downloaded the SDK, successfully written a couple of small apps and I'm kinda hooked. I'd like to get into this more. Is there any way to actually get gphone/openhandset hardware? Mar 16 23:33:21 or is pretty much everyone just using the emulator ? Mar 16 23:34:04 There's no hardware available yet Mar 16 23:36:43 thx, I'll stop wasting my time looking then :) Mar 17 02:44:42 I've got a feature request that might not have been considered. but has bugged me quite a few times Mar 17 02:44:48 In the error log of the DDMS Mar 17 02:45:08 it stretches to the end of the window that holds it Mar 17 02:46:27 if the log is any wider you have to drag it a little by the top of the column and then move the slider at the bottom and then drag it at the top of the column header and then drag the slider Mar 17 02:46:47 This may only be a mac thing as I haven't been using windows Mar 17 02:48:17 But with SQL queries this is a real nuisance. I don't know if there is anything the google developers could do about it as it may be down to eclipse RCP nuances but I thought it was worth pointing out **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 17 02:59:56 2008