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Mar 18 03:24:41 <o3u> No Geocoder DB file "/data/misc/location/geodb"
Mar 18 04:10:04 <zhobbs> romainguy: you ever used one of these "nap pods"? http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/slideshow?collectionId=1648&galleryName=All%20Collections#a=4
Mar 18 04:15:09 <muthu> would be interesting to measure performance of those napsters in their nappods
Mar 18 04:17:53 <zhobbs> I have a couch in my office and it hurts my productivity
Mar 18 04:21:24 <muthu> i want a couch.. really, the afternoon naps are so tempting these days
Mar 18 06:08:13 <thedaniel`> hi guys and girls - i have a spinner that seems to want to fire its onItemSelected for the 0th item as soon as the page is rendered
Mar 18 06:08:32 <thedaniel`> could someone pointme in the approx. direction of docs that will tell me what i am doing wrong? :)
Mar 18 06:22:42 <muthu> thedanier: did you try performClick();
Mar 18 06:29:16 <thedaniel`> muthu: i'm not sure what you mean
Mar 18 06:30:04 <thedaniel`> muthu: first off, i don't want the event to fire when the thing is rendered, and second off, you don't get to use a normal OnItemClick with Spinners, you have to use setOnItemSelected instead (At least that's what I thought ,maybe this is where my problem is )
Mar 18 08:24:25 <muthu> android needs something like flash-lite, silverlight etc., and they better build it now
Mar 18 08:24:38 <chaosvoyager> woah, deja vu.
Mar 18 09:59:24 <raidfive> does anyone have an example of what the UI xml should look like for a ProgressBar?
Mar 18 09:59:48 <raidfive> I'm looking at Google's ProgressBar1.java but the don't supply the xml code
Mar 18 10:03:29 <muthu>                     <!--the media tracker bar-->
Mar 18 10:03:29 <muthu>                     <ProgressBar
Mar 18 10:03:29 <muthu>                             android:id="@+id/video_progress"
Mar 18 10:03:29 <muthu>                             style="?android:attr/progressBarStyleHorizontal"
Mar 18 10:03:29 <muthu>                             android:layout_width="fill_parent"
Mar 18 10:03:30 <muthu>                             android:layout_height="wrap_content"
Mar 18 10:03:32 <muthu>                             android:layout_weight="1.0"
Mar 18 10:03:34 <muthu>                             android:max="100"
Mar 18 10:03:36 <muthu>                             android:progress="0"
Mar 18 10:03:38 <muthu>                             android:secondaryProgress="0"
Mar 18 10:03:40 <muthu>                             />
Mar 18 10:04:16 <muthu> the key here is to set the style
Mar 18 10:05:16 <raidfive> thanks ... where do you find this stuff? :P
Mar 18 10:07:12 <raidfive> there seems to be very little documentation on the UI xml stuff
Mar 18 10:13:07 <muthu> raidfive: don't remember exactly..  certainly not from the docs ;)
Mar 18 10:14:30 <raidfive> :)
Mar 18 16:36:11 <Aetmos> Is there some way to access requestCode within a SubActivity?
Mar 18 16:37:00 <Aetmos> the documentation talks about it getting returned to onActivityResult, but can I see what the request code is within the subactivity class
Mar 18 16:39:16 <zhobbs> not sure on that...
Mar 18 16:39:26 <Aetmos> Seems like it should be possible.
Mar 18 16:39:43 <Aetmos> I mean, I'm passing a request parameter in...I should be able to see what the request is
Mar 18 16:40:35 <zhobbs> I think you are supposed to use the Action parameter in the Intent or bundle some extras for that purpose
Mar 18 16:41:22 <Aetmos> I'll take a look at Action, thanks.
Mar 18 16:45:16 <Argiris> Error: No resource found that matches the given name (at 'background' with value '@drawable/yellow').Any syggestions?????
Mar 18 16:45:34 <Aetmos> make a drawable that's named yellow
Mar 18 16:45:35 <zhobbs> did you define drawable/yellow?
Mar 18 16:45:54 <Argiris> in xml?No
Mar 18 16:45:59 <Aetmos> in colors.xml
Mar 18 16:46:06 <Aetmos> <drawable name="green">#7700ff00</drawable>
Mar 18 16:46:11 <Aetmos> (for instance)
Mar 18 16:46:23 <Aetmos> #ARGB
Mar 18 16:46:48 <Argiris> can i put it in the same xml?
Mar 18 16:46:54 <Aetmos> in colors.xml
Mar 18 16:46:58 <zhobbs> yeah
Mar 18 16:47:12 <Aetmos> in your values folder
Mar 18 16:47:16 <zhobbs> yeah
Mar 18 16:47:48 <Argiris> Have you got any ready colors.xml???
Mar 18 16:48:39 <zhobbs> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?><resources><drawable name="disabled_tab">#44000000</drawable></resources>
Mar 18 16:48:47 <zhobbs> that works for me
Mar 18 16:49:06 <Aetmos> yep
Mar 18 16:56:28 <Argiris> nothing....This is my xml wrong code: <TextView
Mar 18 16:56:28 <Argiris> id="@+id/label1"
Mar 18 16:56:28 <Argiris> android:layout_width="33px"
Mar 18 16:56:28 <Argiris> android:layout_height="wrap_content"
Mar 18 16:56:28 <Argiris> android:background="@drawable/yellow"
Mar 18 16:56:29 <Argiris> android:text="Key:"
Mar 18 16:56:31 <Argiris> android:textColor="@drawable/black"
Mar 18 16:56:33 <Argiris> android:layout_x="20px"
Mar 18 16:56:35 <Argiris> android:layout_y="252px"
Mar 18 16:56:37 <Argiris> >
Mar 18 16:56:39 <Argiris> </TextView>
Mar 18 16:56:41 <Argiris> sorry....
Mar 18 16:57:00 <Aetmos> sorry about what?
Mar 18 16:57:19 <Argiris> for not using something like pastebin etc.
Mar 18 16:57:27 <Aetmos> oh
Mar 18 16:57:34 <Aetmos> What's wrong with it?
Mar 18 16:57:49 <zhobbs> you defined drawable/yellow?
Mar 18 16:58:11 <Aetmos> and drawable/black
Mar 18 16:58:11 <Argiris> I create a new xml file using your lines but nothing
Mar 18 16:58:30 <Aetmos> did you replace "disabled_tab" with "yellow"
Mar 18 16:58:32 <Aetmos> ?
Mar 18 16:58:44 <zhobbs> yeah, paste that file
Mar 18 17:00:10 <Argiris> i replaced "disabled_tab" with "yellow" but nothing
Mar 18 17:00:32 <zhobbs> and it's in res/values/colors.xml?
Mar 18 17:00:38 <Argiris> yes
Mar 18 17:01:03 <Aetmos> Maybe "Fix Project Properties"
Mar 18 17:02:58 <Argiris> I thing project is ok.DroidDraw.com have some wrong arguments.
Mar 18 17:03:38 <Aetmos> Okay, so I can do an intent.putExtra(string,int), but how do I access the "extra" from within the subActivity?
Mar 18 17:04:24 <zhobbs> getIntent().getExtra)(
Mar 18 17:04:37 <Aetmos> ah, thanks
Mar 18 17:05:54 <Argiris> If i want change the screen.Simply I load a second xml????Is there a better way?
Mar 18 17:06:14 <Aetmos> You can do it that way
Mar 18 17:06:19 <zhobbs> if you're chaning it that much a new activity would probably be better
Mar 18 17:06:19 <Aetmos> You can also use an intent
Mar 18 17:06:28 <Aetmos> to create a new activity
Mar 18 17:06:44 <Aetmos> Yeah, if it's a small change, you can load a new xml into the current activity
Mar 18 17:06:52 <Aetmos> larger changes should probably have a new activity
Mar 18 17:07:12 <zhobbs> or if it's a small change you could just change the object you're changing with code
Mar 18 17:07:40 <Aetmos> True. Though, for instance, I have an activity with multiple "pages" with similar formatting, and I swap out XML for each page
Mar 18 17:07:50 <Aetmos> That seems to work pretty well
Mar 18 17:08:30 <zhobbs> yeah, I've done sometime similar with a FrameLayout or ViewAnimator
Mar 18 17:08:38 <Aetmos> Hmm...getIntent().getExtra() is depricated
Mar 18 17:09:47 <zhobbs> getExtras()
Mar 18 17:09:57 <zhobbs> will give you the Bundle
Mar 18 17:10:27 <Aetmos> hmm
Mar 18 17:10:45 <acsia> has anybody managed to place a  	displayZoomDialog(float x, float y)? I am not really sure about how it position itself
Mar 18 17:10:47 <plusminus_> its buggy
Mar 18 17:10:51 <zhobbs> are you putting a bundle?
Mar 18 17:11:05 <Aetmos> Well, I was putting an int
Mar 18 17:11:22 <Argiris> a good tutorial for FrameLayout?(Not documentation)
Mar 18 17:11:41 <zhobbs> They aren't showing depreciated in the docs?
Mar 18 17:12:08 <zhobbs> Aetmos: getIntExtra() is depreciated?
Mar 18 17:12:20 <Aetmos> Well, GetExtra() is deprecated
Mar 18 17:12:24 <Aetmos> Let me check GetIntExtra
Mar 18 17:12:43 <zhobbs> Aetmos: I've always used a bundle so I haven't tried
Mar 18 17:13:02 <Aetmos> okay, getIntExtra seems to be okay
Mar 18 17:13:05 <Aetmos> thanks
Mar 18 17:13:18 <zhobbs> might need to use putIntExtra then
Mar 18 17:13:40 <Aetmos> doesn't exist
Mar 18 17:13:51 <zhobbs> :)
Mar 18 17:13:56 <Aetmos> I think the (string,int) override for putExtra should be sufficient, though
Mar 18 17:14:02 <zhobbs> oh yea
Mar 18 17:14:33 <plusminus_> btw: Bundle-Issue: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=252
Mar 18 17:14:51 <Aetmos> lol
Mar 18 17:15:23 <Aetmos> Hey plusminus, you don't happen to know if it's possible to access the requestCode within a subactivity, do you?
Mar 18 17:15:38 <Aetmos> Though putExtra seems like it will work...
Mar 18 17:15:46 <Aetmos> Seems silly to send the same int twice, though
Mar 18 17:18:36 <Aetmos> hmm...nullpointerexception
Mar 18 17:18:37 <Aetmos> ;-(
Mar 18 17:19:05 <zhobbs> puttin or getting?
Mar 18 17:19:20 <Aetmos> getting
Mar 18 17:21:05 <zhobbs> In google's notelist app I think they use the intent's action
Mar 18 17:21:51 <Aetmos> hmm
Mar 18 17:22:27 <Aetmos> oh, shit, I was just trying to update the GUI before building it.
Mar 18 17:22:53 <Aetmos> trying again...
Mar 18 17:23:27 <Aetmos> Excellent! It works!
Mar 18 17:23:28 <Aetmos> Thanks
Mar 18 17:23:43 <zhobbs> :)
Mar 18 18:01:02 <jasta> hmm, sqlite3 is not behaving as i expect writing my blobs...
Mar 18 18:01:26 <jasta> (not in android, i know that its not supported there)
Mar 18 18:13:01 <_avatar> i haven't tried this yet, but can a view defined by one layout XML file be used as a sub-view in a different layout XML?
Mar 18 18:13:41 <jasta> not directly, however you could (and should) create your own compound control to do this.
Mar 18 18:15:20 <_avatar> i.e. subclass some sort of View? like a LinearLayout?
Mar 18 18:18:43 <_avatar> cool, http://code.google.com/android/toolbox/custom-components.html is helpful. thanks
Mar 18 19:02:50 <acsia> is there any issues creating several content providers?
Mar 18 19:03:28 <acsia> my emulator keeps crashing as soon as I try to add a second content provider with a file observer crash
Mar 18 19:23:33 <acsia> I am going mental
Mar 18 19:32:37 <acsia> ok if I wipe data, I can start my application once. As soon as I try to launch it again via eclipse, it crashes my emulator and I need to wipe the data again
Mar 18 19:34:47 <romainguy> have you looked at the logs?
Mar 18 19:35:29 <acsia> ERROR/FileObserver(878): Unhandled exception java.lang.NullPointerException (returned by observer android.server.PackageManagerService$AppDirObserver@400f6070)
Mar 18 19:36:03 <acsia> this is really strange, I declared 2 content provider in my manifest
Mar 18 19:36:14 <acsia> if I leave only one then it works (whichever)
Mar 18 19:36:43 <acsia> if I have the 2 then it creates only the first one when I launch the app for the first time and then crashes when I try the second time
Mar 18 19:36:57 <acsia> I tried with 2 different db or only 1
Mar 18 19:37:23 <acsia> there seems to be a lock on it
Mar 18 19:37:24 <acsia> ERROR/FileObserver(878):     at android.server.PackageManagerService.removePackageLocked(PackageManagerService.java:1176)
Mar 18 19:38:17 <acsia> and it is very frustrating because each time I need to wipe the data and try again
Mar 18 20:23:42 <zhobbs> jasta: you been playing mp3s much with MediaPlayer yet?  Just wondering if you're experiences some bugs with random stoppages, etc
Mar 18 20:28:22 <jasta> i actually avoided the MediaPlayer for now
Mar 18 20:28:27 <jasta> it's really, really broken :)
Mar 18 20:28:47 <zhobbs> you are going to eventually use it though right?  Or is there an alternative?
Mar 18 20:30:10 <jasta> i will have to
Mar 18 20:30:17 <jasta> my hope is that it will be fixed in the next month.
Mar 18 20:30:25 <jasta> if not, then i will have to just leave parts of my app pretty broken
Mar 18 20:30:48 <zhobbs> doubt they'll be fixed before challenge...
Mar 18 20:30:56 <jasta> me too
Mar 18 20:31:09 <jasta> that's why i hope and not expect :)
Mar 18 20:34:31 <jasta> i will "document" it well, though
Mar 18 20:34:38 <zhobbs> yeah
Mar 18 20:34:49 <jasta> like, display to the user that the reason it's not doing what you expect is because of issue #<x>
Mar 18 20:35:26 <jasta> hey btw, has anyone successfully created a 9 patch?
Mar 18 20:35:32 <zhobbs> yeah
Mar 18 20:35:34 <romainguy> yes
Mar 18 20:35:35 <jasta> im curious what these look like
Mar 18 20:35:41 <jasta> romainguy: other than you guys ;)
Mar 18 20:35:44 <romainguy> didn't you read the tutorial online?
Mar 18 20:36:04 <zhobbs> just add black border for streatchable areas top and left
Mar 18 20:36:53 <zhobbs> jasta: http://code.google.com/android/reference/available-resources.html#ninepatch
Mar 18 20:37:32 <zhobbs> though I'm not sure why you would need the padding boxes
Mar 18 20:37:46 <romainguy> the padding helps place the content
Mar 18 20:38:01 <romainguy> that's what tells a button to put the text X pixels from the left at least for instance
Mar 18 20:38:25 <zhobbs> Hmm, just seems weird to stretch areas where content doesn't exist
Mar 18 20:38:35 <romainguy> why?
Mar 18 20:39:08 <romainguy> the example on the URL you gave shows a perfect example of why it's useful
Mar 18 20:39:23 <romainguy> it's just padding
Mar 18 20:39:31 <romainguy> it's like calling view.setPadding() yourself
Mar 18 20:39:31 <zhobbs> Ohh, I see now
Mar 18 20:39:44 <zhobbs> content may be placed in areas that aren't stretchable
Mar 18 20:40:17 <romainguy> content can be placed anywhere
Mar 18 20:40:27 <romainguy> the content has nothing to do with stretchable areas or not
Mar 18 20:40:30 <zhobbs> right
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Mar 19 01:31:22 <zhobbs> Is there anyway to mute the emulator?  Seems to play audio with or without -useaudio
Mar 19 01:32:07 <romainguy> -noaudio
Mar 19 01:32:08 <romainguy> type emulator --help to see all options
Mar 19 01:32:18 <zhobbs> ahh
Mar 19 01:49:03 <jasta> romainguy: *poke*
Mar 19 01:50:00 <jasta> i have a SimpleCursorAdapter here with an image and text view, and whenever i scroll the list around it hangs for about a second with 4 lines sent to adb logcat in succession saying:
Mar 19 01:50:05 <jasta> D/dalvikvm( 1275): Exception Ljava/io/IOException; from BufferedInputStream.java:264 not caught locally
Mar 19 01:50:13 <jasta> then it draws just like i expect it to
Mar 19 01:50:24 <jasta> do you know what that's about?
Mar 19 01:51:13 <jasta> the rows in the database are mixed such that some of the rows have null instead of a content:// uri specifying an image resource.  it seems like maybe it hangs when calling getView on those rows, actually.
Mar 19 01:58:02 <zhobbs> jasta: I've been wondering what kind of column does the SimpleCursorAdapter expect to be binded to an ImageView?
Mar 19 01:58:14 <jasta> text, specifying a content:// uri.
Mar 19 01:58:20 <zhobbs> ok
Mar 19 01:58:46 <jasta> i had hoped it would be able to tolerate null or empty values as well
Mar 19 01:58:49 <jasta> but maybe not :)
Mar 19 01:59:14 <zhobbs> gotta point it to an empty pic
Mar 19 01:59:38 <zhobbs> but yeah, you'd think it could handle null
Mar 19 01:59:42 <jasta> well it works, and maybe it has nothing to do with this
Mar 19 01:59:46 <jasta> but it's slow as hell as i'm using it now
Mar 19 02:01:09 <jasta> lol
Mar 19 02:01:17 <jasta> what the heck?
Mar 19 02:01:24 <jasta> the code looks like:
Mar 19 02:01:46 <jasta> try { v.setImageResource(Integer.valueOf(value)) } catch (NumberFormatException e) { v.setImageURI(Uri.parse(value)); }
Mar 19 02:02:04 <jasta> it first tries to interpret the database row as an image resource number?
Mar 19 02:02:46 <zhobbs> strange way of doing it
Mar 19 02:03:10 <jasta> agreed, i wonder why you'd ever want to store a resource id into a database?
Mar 19 02:03:14 <jasta> that seems like a miserable strategy
Mar 19 02:03:39 <jasta> i guess simplecursoradapter's not just for database cursors, though
Mar 19 02:03:52 <zhobbs> hm
Mar 19 02:15:01 <jasta> yeah, it's totally the null column that screws it up.  i bet it's because it tries to load it as an image resource (resource 0?)
Mar 19 02:16:23 <jasta> not sure what Integer.valueOf("") yields, though.
Mar 19 02:21:10 <f00f-> matybe a numformat ex
Mar 19 02:21:31 <zhobbs> yeah, it must throw the exception
Mar 19 02:43:48 <tmcneal> it's a nice feeling when code works the first time :)
Mar 19 02:43:55 <tmcneal> it's a rare feeling, for me at least :p
Mar 19 02:44:25 <zhobbs> for sure
Mar 19 02:44:40 <chomchom> definitely , had that last night
Mar 19 02:44:52 <chomchom> completely not happening tonight though
Mar 19 02:45:42 <chomchom> My happiness has been devoured by SQL JOINS
Mar 19 02:46:05 <tmcneal> hehe
Mar 19 02:46:10 <zhobbs> mine is being destroyed by MediaPlayer + DeadObjectExceptions
Mar 19 02:46:20 <zhobbs> MediaPlayer crashing my service
Mar 19 02:54:06 <jjt009> hello
Mar 19 02:54:07 <jjt009> to all
Mar 19 02:54:10 <chaosvoyager> Hmm, youknow, why should you be getting DeadObjectExceptions on an emulator anyway? That should only happen when resources are low, right?
Mar 19 02:54:18 <jjt009> i have a quick question
Mar 19 02:54:26 <jjt009> ok, here goes...
Mar 19 02:54:51 <jjt009> i am trying to find the location a business based on its proximity to a certain address
Mar 19 02:55:00 <jjt009> for example, i could type into google maps:
Mar 19 02:55:18 <jjt009> "starbucks near 1600 Amphitheather Parkway, Mountain View, CA"
Mar 19 02:55:19 <zhobbs> chaosvoyager: when the service crashes and then I try to use the remote interface it will give that exception
Mar 19 02:55:31 <jjt009> however, this approach does not work
Mar 19 02:55:48 <chaosvoyager> ah, a crash, that makes sense.
Mar 19 02:55:51 <jjt009> how can i make sure that the results returned are only profiles of starbucks locations?
Mar 19 02:56:27 <jjt009> can anyone point me to a better channel?
Mar 19 02:56:45 <zhobbs> jjt009: you using the Search object?
Mar 19 02:56:53 <jjt009> no
Mar 19 02:57:08 <jjt009> i'm just connecting to Google Maps web service with UrlConnection
Mar 19 02:57:20 <zhobbs> Use a Search object
Mar 19 02:57:22 <jjt009> this is a basically a question about the use of google maps
Mar 19 02:57:29 <jjt009> ok what package?
Mar 19 02:57:34 <tmcneal> jjt: are you using the GmmGeocoder class?
Mar 19 02:57:39 <tmcneal> ohh
Mar 19 02:57:51 <jjt009> GmmGeocoder is supposed to be unsupported
Mar 19 02:57:59 <tmcneal> yep
Mar 19 02:58:03 <tmcneal> i use it anyways tho.
Mar 19 02:58:06 <chaosvoyager> hmm....
Mar 19 02:58:07 <jjt009> it also doesn't work for me
Mar 19 02:58:11 <jjt009> for some reason
Mar 19 02:58:21 <tmcneal> i've got it working fine except it doesn't return the business name for some reason
Mar 19 02:58:55 <jjt009> i decompiled android.jar and found that it uses the same bogus White House addresses as the supported Geocoding classes
Mar 19 02:59:28 <jjt009> zhobbs: where can i find the Search object?
Mar 19 02:59:29 <tmcneal> right, that's what GeoCoder uses.. however the Contacts application returns real addresses
Mar 19 02:59:36 <tmcneal> so it's either using GmmGeocoder, or the Google API
Mar 19 02:59:45 <zhobbs> jjt009: android.app.SearchManager
Mar 19 02:59:48 <jjt009> i should try that out
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