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May 03 03:00:20 <romainguy> rainabba: yes
May 03 03:01:54 <rainabba> There a list of supported platforms for Android? I just got the idea that my HTC Titan may support linux and/or Android and I'm looking for info (using google and xda-developers).
May 03 03:45:26 <jasta> jeu rp,som
May 03 03:45:27 <jasta> err
May 03 03:45:29 <jasta> wth
May 03 03:45:33 <jasta> hey romain, i meant :)
May 03 03:48:23 <romainguy> yo
May 03 04:03:38 <jjt009> romainguy: yo
May 03 04:10:58 <dueynz> losts of winging on the mailing list sigh
May 03 04:11:10 <dueynz> lots
May 03 04:22:33 <muthu> http://www.youdidnotwin.com/index.php
May 03 04:22:49 <jerkface03> 2g1c?
May 03 04:23:52 <muthu> entered my app and got instant results
May 03 04:23:53 <muthu> lol
May 03 04:26:53 <f00f-> saw your post muthu
May 03 04:26:56 <f00f-> funny
May 03 04:26:57 <f00f-> heh
May 03 04:27:04 <f00f-> 1.2.3.4.5.. one
May 03 04:27:16 <muthu> glad you like it
May 03 04:27:27 <muthu> try to make it interesting
May 03 04:27:39 <f00f-> ya important
May 03 04:27:46 <muthu> the stories were amazing
May 03 04:27:54 <muthu> pretty motivating
May 03 04:28:11 <f00f-> :P
May 03 04:28:11 <f00f-> brb
May 03 04:38:50 <Xcp> hello
May 03 04:45:41 <Xcp_> hello..
May 03 04:47:25 <chapoenx> hello...
May 03 06:29:54 <muthu> Twitter abandoning ROR - http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Techcrunch/~3/281668620/
May 03 06:31:07 <f00f-> just goes to show it's the architecture that's the issue
May 03 06:31:10 <f00f-> not the implementation
May 03 06:34:48 <muthu> f00f-: yeah they've been having problems
May 03 06:45:21 <raidfive> muthu: http://twitter.com/ev/statuses/801530348
May 03 06:47:08 <raidfive> who knows though
May 03 06:49:29 <muthu> raidfive: thanks for the clarification
May 03 06:50:08 <muthu> he's saying not a lot of code is in ROR?
May 03 06:50:59 <raidfive> they have a lot of hybrid code
May 03 06:51:12 <raidfive> but I think the majority is still rails
May 03 06:51:18 <muthu> right
May 03 06:51:24 <muthu> and no one's able to fix them?
May 03 06:51:28 <muthu> surprising
May 03 06:52:08 <raidfive> I dunno what their problem is but I don't think it is fair to put the blame soley on rails
May 03 06:52:24 <raidfive> it is a combination of a lot of things ... recently they just lost a db server
May 03 06:52:26 <muthu> if you remember early on.. they blamed it on rails
May 03 06:52:37 <raidfive> yea, which is stupid in my opinion
May 03 06:52:48 <f00f-> it's such a simple site
May 03 06:53:05 <muthu> may be its the hybrid
May 03 06:53:26 <f00f-> 1-2k lines of PHP or Perl, tops, without a framework
May 03 06:53:51 <f00f-> you just need a good database with high I/O rates
May 03 06:54:09 <raidfive> database is always the issue
May 03 06:54:17 <muthu> they can't find an expert to fix their issues?
May 03 06:54:50 <muthu> what's twitter doing with all that vc fund?
May 03 06:55:37 <f00f-> fast new sports cars
May 03 06:56:01 <raidfive> I honestly don't know what they heck they are doing ... and obviously neither do they
May 03 06:56:16 <muthu> the founder is a geek
May 03 06:56:30 <muthu> he needs to get some help
May 03 06:56:48 <muthu> he's fixing bugs!!
May 03 06:57:29 <raidfive> not very well :)
May 03 06:57:34 <muthu> haha
May 03 06:57:42 <raidfive> fix 1, introduce 2
May 03 06:58:14 <muthu> who's running the company, if the founder is fixing bugs?
May 03 06:59:26 <f00f-> you mention '.com' and social networking in one sentence, then any VC will give you money
May 03 06:59:46 <muthu> i need to move to the valley
May 03 06:59:50 <muthu> get some funding ;)
May 03 07:00:04 <muthu> buy some sports car :))
May 03 07:00:14 <f00f-> it's crowded with startups!
May 03 07:00:26 <f00f-> on sunday i am going to this startup camp in SF
May 03 07:00:32 <f00f-> should be ineteresting to see what people are cooking up
May 03 07:00:36 <f00f-> it's being sponsored by Sun
May 03 07:02:00 <muthu> yeah that would be cool
May 03 07:02:13 <muthu> need to be in the valley to be in the crowd
May 03 08:14:52 <jasta> woo, integrated GConf support, GTK status icon, and started work on the HTTP server / web browser-type interface for the server.
May 03 08:14:59 <jasta> this is going great ;)
May 03 08:16:25 <dueynz> :D
May 03 08:16:46 <dueynz> surely there is an emedded web server for C
May 03 08:23:04 <jasta> dueynz: i am using libsoup
May 03 08:23:09 <jasta> i was using it before, as well.  libsyncml requires it.
May 03 08:25:55 <Lede> jasta did you get any hits as of lately
May 03 08:26:01 <Lede> on your server that is
May 03 08:26:18 <Lede> not in the bar by women
May 03 08:27:25 <jasta> really, can we just have 1 weekend without talking about the ADC?
May 03 08:28:01 <Lede> no
May 03 08:28:15 <Lede> must.. win...
May 03 08:28:19 * Lede turns green
May 03 08:29:04 <Lede> jasta: you think you have a good chance of winning?
May 03 08:29:33 <Lede> compared to say what others have made
May 03 08:29:58 <jasta> i'm confused by this gconf deal.  by defining and installing a schema, shouldn't it have automatically created my apps structure?
May 03 08:30:14 <jasta> or do i actually have to initialize my defaults still via code?
May 03 08:30:27 <jasta> that would be totally stupid
May 03 08:31:36 <Lede> oh ignoring me
May 03 08:31:50 <Lede> don't call me anymore then!
May 03 08:32:14 <jasta> i'm ignoring the ADC :)
May 03 08:32:17 <jasta> not you
May 03 08:32:44 <Lede> why?
May 03 08:32:47 <Lede> :\
May 03 08:33:00 <jasta> i'm just finally sick of worrying about something i can't control
May 03 08:33:24 <Lede> oh ok, i know that feeling
May 03 08:33:43 <Lede> sorry to bother you
May 03 08:53:06 <muthu> hey what's going on
May 03 08:53:19 <muthu> weekend people!
May 03 08:53:22 <umdk1d4> heh
May 03 08:53:40 <umdk1d4> mm i cant wait for conchords at google io  :)
May 03 08:53:51 <muthu> umdk1d4: when's IO?
May 03 08:54:03 <umdk1d4> may 28-29  http://code.google.com/events/io/
May 03 08:54:07 <muthu> got your tickets?
May 03 08:54:17 <umdk1d4> yep  ^.^
May 03 08:54:20 <muthu> cool
May 03 08:54:31 <umdk1d4> wait, is there additional tix besides just signing up for io?
May 03 08:55:15 <umdk1d4> looks like there will be quite a few android sessions
May 03 08:56:29 <muthu> yeah there is
May 03 08:56:39 <muthu> umdk1d4: heard the tickets are like 400$
May 03 08:56:52 <umdk1d4> well its like $50 for students  ;)
May 03 08:57:00 <muthu> cool
May 03 08:57:06 <muthu> let me get my school id ;)
May 03 08:57:11 <umdk1d4> hehe
May 03 08:57:16 <umdk1d4> but yea normally 350 iirc
May 03 08:57:25 <muthu> right
May 03 08:57:30 <muthu> IO must be interesting
May 03 08:57:31 <umdk1d4> oh yea its 400 now
May 03 08:57:39 <umdk1d4> after early reg deadline
May 03 08:57:50 <umdk1d4> i was there for dev day last year
May 03 08:58:05 <muthu> how was it?
May 03 08:58:09 <umdk1d4> they really just keep reinventing it
May 03 08:58:19 <umdk1d4> it was a blast, but too much packed into one day imho
May 03 08:58:25 <muthu> right
May 03 08:58:34 <muthu> but android will make it interesting this year
May 03 08:59:07 <umdk1d4> http://pipe.dreamhosters.com/google/  pix from last year
May 03 08:59:26 <muthu> cool
May 03 08:59:49 <muthu> umdk1d4: which school?
May 03 09:00:02 <umdk1d4> montana state univ
May 03 09:00:08 <muthu> ok
May 03 09:00:13 <umdk1d4> so its a long drive
May 03 09:00:18 <muthu> right
May 03 09:00:21 <muthu> any adc app?
May 03 09:00:26 <umdk1d4> yep  ^.^
May 03 09:00:31 <muthu> what you do?
May 03 09:00:32 <umdk1d4> i wont paste here tho  ;)
May 03 09:00:36 <muthu> hehe
May 03 09:00:39 <umdk1d4> keeping irc ident from irl ident
May 03 09:00:50 <muthu> cool
May 03 09:00:56 <umdk1d4> but yea only ~3 days right?  :D
May 03 09:01:03 <muthu> oooh yeah
May 03 09:01:10 <umdk1d4> i have no clue what those other 1700ish apps are
May 03 09:01:17 <jasta> i just set up my hotel and flight details for I/O :)
May 03 09:01:19 <jasta> i'm excited
May 03 09:01:21 <umdk1d4> :D
May 03 09:01:26 <muthu> woah jasta
May 03 09:01:29 <muthu> you are fast
May 03 09:01:37 <muthu> it would be great to meet you all at IO
May 03 09:01:44 <jasta> well, i did it a few hours ago
May 03 09:01:58 <umdk1d4> im prolly gonna be wearing some sorta android tshirt
May 03 09:02:02 <muthu> jasta: any IO parties scheduled\
May 03 09:02:03 <muthu> ?
May 03 09:02:12 <umdk1d4> ooh and ill bring my hacked n810  :D
May 03 09:02:16 <jasta> i'm sure there will be some.  probably all lame ;)
May 03 09:02:24 <muthu> google will throw some
May 03 09:02:27 <jasta> i'm going to meet some friends down there, and i will be hanging out with them after for sure
May 03 09:02:40 <muthu> great
May 03 09:03:22 <muthu> umdk1d4: nice pics
May 03 09:03:25 <jasta> i am staying at the marriott right next to the convention center too
May 03 09:03:42 <muthu> jasta: staying with friends?
May 03 09:04:13 <jasta> yeah, i got a 2 bed hotel room, and someone will prboably be sleeping on the floor too
May 03 09:04:21 <muthu> hehe
May 03 09:04:27 <muthu> that should be fun
May 03 09:04:29 <jasta> saves a lot of cash, and since we'll all be wasted it won't be weird at all :)
May 03 09:04:37 <muthu> yeah i'm all for it
May 03 09:05:01 <muthu> but the hotels might have a limit
May 03 09:05:07 <muthu> they'll check how many are in the room
May 03 09:05:11 <jasta> of course they do, but you don't tell them.
May 03 09:05:25 <muthu> you don't but dont they monitor?
May 03 09:05:38 <jasta> how would they?  they only know how many keys they gave out for the room.
May 03 09:06:22 <muthu> they won't mind i guess
May 03 09:06:32 <jasta> they mind, they just don't know.
May 03 09:06:51 <muthu> how can they not know?
May 03 09:07:03 <muthu> some one is watching everyone who enters the lobby
May 03 09:07:17 <jasta> yeah, but they have no idea where they went after they left the lobby
May 03 09:07:23 <romainguy___> you can have people in your room without them sleeping over...
May 03 09:07:27 <jasta> guy walks in, guy enters elevator, ??? :)
May 03 09:07:32 <romainguy___> I've done that countless of times
May 03 09:07:45 <muthu> romainguy__: ha that's the loophole huh
May 03 09:07:48 <romainguy___> jasta: especially in that kind of hotel that have public restaurants and bars
May 03 09:08:09 <muthu> yeah pick a hotel where there's a lot of human traffic ;)
May 03 09:08:14 <jasta> i mean, they'd love to charge you, and they would if you admitted it.
May 03 09:08:18 <romainguy___> muthu: you are paranoid
May 03 09:08:25 <jasta> but they just don't have any idea and don't care to get one.
May 03 09:08:54 <muthu> romainguy__: i'm just thinking someone at hotel keeps count
May 03 09:09:03 <jasta> muthu: but they don't, so you're wrong :)
May 03 09:09:18 <muthu> jasta:  you never know
May 03 09:09:23 <umdk1d4> yea hotels dont care
May 03 09:09:38 <umdk1d4> unless they arent sold out, and have rooms they still want to sell
May 03 09:09:44 <jasta> anyway, i plan to have a really fun time while i'm there
May 03 09:09:47 <jasta> i'm looking forward to it
May 03 09:10:28 <muthu> jasta:  any beer bombs planned? is that beer bombs...?
May 03 09:10:34 <muthu> haha
May 03 09:10:37 <muthu> can't remember
May 03 09:10:39 <jasta> what?
May 03 09:10:47 <muthu> car bombs?
May 03 09:11:00 <muthu> the heavy drinking, i mean
May 03 09:11:07 <jasta> yes, i will be drinking heavy ;)
May 03 09:11:18 <muthu> its the car bombs right?
May 03 09:11:34 <jasta> a car bomb is a specific drink, specifically an irish car bomb.
May 03 09:11:38 <jasta> is that what you're referring to?
May 03 09:11:42 <muthu> right
May 03 09:11:53 <muthu> i know you said something like that
May 03 09:12:06 <muthu> irish car bomb - need to try one
May 03 09:12:07 <jasta> if that's what you think heavy drinking is, sure :)
May 03 09:12:15 <muthu> with irish folks!!
May 03 09:12:24 <jasta> heavy drinking for me is usually passing around a bottle of whiskey in an alley hehe
May 03 09:12:42 <jasta> irish car bombs are just a delicious appetizer.
May 03 09:12:44 <muthu> i've done some heavy drinking myself
May 03 09:12:58 <muthu> but not done any car bombs kinda stuff
May 03 09:13:47 <jasta> the guy i'm going down there to see used to be my roommate.  my liver is glad he left.
May 03 09:13:54 <muthu> haha
May 03 09:14:14 <muthu> the liver reminds me to stay calm these days
May 03 09:14:39 <muthu> but when it gets going sometimes, it really gets going
May 03 09:14:55 <muthu> like a friends get together or something once in a while
May 03 09:15:09 <jasta> one of the most fun times i've ever had was snow camping this winter with my older brother, Fred (my old roommate), and a few other close friends.
May 03 09:15:30 <muthu> friends are fun
May 03 09:15:42 <jasta> we brought a bottle of $200 whiskey
May 03 09:15:47 <muthu> wow
May 03 09:15:49 <muthu> which one?
May 03 09:16:36 <jasta> johnnie walker blue label
May 03 09:16:51 <muthu> is whiskey the irish national drink?
May 03 09:17:27 <jasta> muthu: depends on how you look at it.  around the world, it's generally associated with the Irish.
May 03 09:17:36 <muthu> ok
May 03 09:17:46 <jasta> but whiskey is a family of hard liquor, including Scotch which is distilled exclusively in Scotland
May 03 09:17:50 <jasta> which is very distinct from Ireland
May 03 09:17:59 <muthu> what's the best whiskey to try?
May 03 09:18:05 <muthu> if i have to have just one
May 03 09:18:15 <tobe002> android is a kind of linux?
May 03 09:18:25 <jasta> that depends on your budget.  Jameson and Bushmills are two of the best known exports of Ireland, but not the best by any stretch.
May 03 09:19:15 <muthu> you drink anything other than whiskey?
May 03 09:19:28 <jasta> rarely.
May 03 09:19:39 <muthu> vodka?
May 03 09:19:42 <jasta> never
May 03 09:19:45 <muthu> haha
May 03 09:19:47 <jasta> vodka and tequila are the worst.
May 03 09:19:55 <jasta> i like rum, but not as much as i like whiskey.
May 03 09:20:10 <jasta> and smart drinkers know not to mix it up too much.  if you give your body what it's familiar with, it will treat you better :)
May 03 09:20:19 <muthu> really?
May 03 09:20:31 <muthu> that's something i'll note
May 03 09:20:53 <jasta> yes.  mixing different types of liquors in a single night will get you sick more easily, and your hangover will hurt more the next day.
May 03 09:21:07 <muthu> right.. in a single day i agree
May 03 09:21:25 <jasta> and there's something to be said for being familiar with a particular drink on a longer scale.  i can drink entirely bushmills in a night and drink a LOT of it without getting sick.
May 03 09:21:38 <muthu> that might be true
May 03 09:21:43 <muthu> since the body is used to it
May 03 09:21:50 <muthu> its like food habits
May 03 09:22:01 <jasta> i can't say scientifically if it's true, but it certainly is supported by my experience.
May 03 09:22:13 <muthu> it makes sense
May 03 09:22:23 <jasta> my common drink, btw, is Bushmills.
May 03 09:22:29 <davidw> stuff with sugar is the worst, IMO
May 03 09:22:31 <muthu> i drink beer mostly
May 03 09:22:43 <davidw> caipirinha, stuff like that
May 03 09:22:46 <jasta> it's a relatively common Irish whiskey, distilled in Northern Ireland, which is technically not even Ireland but hey, it's still good whiskey.
May 03 09:23:03 <jasta> muthu: Well, by volume me too.  I like amber beers ;)
May 03 09:23:15 <jasta> but when I'm rolling hard with my friends, it's always whiskey
May 03 09:23:18 <muthu> yeah nothing beats beer
May 03 09:23:22 <muthu> its fun to drink a lot
May 03 09:23:31 * davidw is more of a wine guy
May 03 09:23:44 <muthu> davidw: which kinda of wine?
May 03 09:23:59 <davidw> well, not the stuff that comes in a box...;-)
May 03 09:24:01 <jasta> muthu: if you have a very particular taste, you should try Scotch whiskey first ;)
May 03 09:24:19 <muthu> i've never drank whiskey straight up
May 03 09:24:28 <muthu> always mix with soda or something
May 03 09:24:42 <muthu> mostly thats how people in india drink
May 03 09:24:50 <jasta> not many people drink common whiskey straight ;)
May 03 09:24:55 <jasta> you shoot it
May 03 09:25:05 <jasta> but scotch, otoh, is a sipping whiskey.
May 03 09:25:40 <muthu> do you generally mix?
May 03 09:25:41 <jasta> and depending on your budget, you can take the burn away completely :)
May 03 09:25:51 <jasta> muthu: no, but i do have a favorite...
May 03 09:25:59 <muthu> what?
May 03 09:26:37 <jasta> i like whiskey and ginger ale
May 03 09:26:43 <jasta> it's better than it sounds
May 03 09:26:55 <muthu> that doesn't sound like a common mix
May 03 09:27:06 <jasta> not internationally, no.
May 03 09:27:14 <muthu> ok
May 03 09:27:29 <muthu> ** need to get some scotch
May 03 09:27:35 <jasta> don't ever mix scotch, though.
May 03 09:27:51 <muthu> right, but i don't know how it comes here
May 03 09:28:26 <muthu> the last trip i was in SF
May 03 09:28:37 <muthu> huge fun.. a whole day drinking with friends
May 03 09:28:42 <muthu> my india college buddies
May 03 09:29:00 <jasta> i'm helping a buddy move on Sunday, and he's repaying with a couple of glasses of his 26 year-aged Scotch
May 03 09:29:05 <jasta> looking forward to that :)
May 03 09:29:08 <muthu> woah
May 03 09:29:12 <muthu> you need help? ;)
May 03 09:29:30 <muthu> that's a buddy!!
May 03 09:29:33 <muthu> haha
May 03 09:29:49 <jasta> i have a bottle here that is 16 year, which is what i typically buy and drink.
May 03 09:29:57 <jasta> but the price does not scale linearly :)
May 03 09:29:58 <davidw> I don't know... i think beer is a more appropriate moving beverage
May 03 09:30:07 <davidw> maybe that's taken for granted though
May 03 09:30:23 <muthu> right, beer sounds ordinary
May 03 09:30:35 <davidw> well, you get thirsty heaving stuff around
May 03 09:31:04 <jasta> i'll probably have beer too ;)
May 03 09:31:04 <muthu> davidw: everything leaves you dehydrated right
May 03 09:31:08 <jasta> no reason you can't get sloppy on a Sunday night.
May 03 09:31:29 <jasta> especially _this_ Sunday ;)
May 03 09:31:31 <muthu> jasta: no work on monday?
May 03 09:31:55 <muthu> oh oh _this_ sunday me need to drink too
May 03 09:32:00 <jasta> yes ;)
May 03 09:32:08 <jasta> i'm goin out Monday night too hehe
May 03 09:32:23 <muthu> wow.. that's the winners party huh ;)
May 03 09:32:26 <muthu> lol
May 03 09:32:57 <jasta> well, maybe not.
May 03 09:33:07 <jasta> i just need to unwind, is all
May 03 09:33:14 <muthu> kidding
May 03 09:33:17 <muthu> but you know
May 03 09:33:22 <jasta> i haven't seen my friends much these past few months
May 03 09:33:25 <muthu> would be hard for a lot of folks
May 03 09:33:47 <jasta> next week is gonna be fun, actually.  i have a lot going on
May 03 09:34:04 <muthu> good to be busy
May 03 09:34:13 <jasta> monday going out, thursday my favorite band is playing a show, saturday i'm driving down to portland to see another show and hagn out with some friends down there
May 03 09:34:37 <muthu> cool
May 03 09:34:52 <jasta> yeah, it's a nice change of pace.  i'm getting totally burnt out coding ;)
May 03 09:35:11 <muthu> coding non stop is crazy
May 03 09:35:18 <muthu> thankfully its not me
May 03 09:35:37 <jasta> anyway, my girlfriend is starting to stir...
May 03 09:35:44 <jasta> i am gonna head to bed
May 03 09:35:54 <muthu> goodnight
May 03 09:35:57 <jasta> night
May 03 09:36:17 <muthu> i'm heading off for the weekend
May 03 16:09:00 <michaelnovakjr> howdy folks
May 03 16:11:14 <muthu> yo
May 03 16:15:01 <living_sword> ya
May 03 16:15:46 <muthu> re
May 03 16:23:04 <dmoffett> Hello
May 03 16:24:02 <Wogz> wa
May 03 16:24:21 <muthu> meh
May 03 16:26:12 <michaelnovakjr> how's everybody doing?
May 03 16:26:58 <dmoffett> Cranking away on the iPhone SDK, wishing I was back on the Android.  :-(
May 03 16:27:31 <Kraln> haha same here
May 03 16:28:11 <muthu> iphone, come on!
May 03 16:28:17 <dmoffett> The upside is I have a great selection of Louis Prima playing.
May 03 16:28:39 <michaelnovakjr> i am getting SMS services for weatherphone to launch
May 03 16:28:43 <dmoffett> Have to pay the bills.
May 03 16:28:53 <dmoffett> Sounds cool
May 03 16:29:04 <michaelnovakjr> its needed
May 03 16:29:14 <muthu> michaelnovakjr_2: wow
May 03 16:29:33 <michaelnovakjr> muthu: its my attempt to reach everyone possible
May 03 16:29:41 <michaelnovakjr> especially after this week in the states
May 03 16:30:42 <muthu> michaelnovakjr_2: cool
May 03 16:30:43 <dmoffett> maybe you could show that tornado that skipped over my Mom's house.
May 03 16:30:50 <muthu> haha
May 03 16:31:03 <muthu> weatherphone is something people would love
May 03 16:31:10 <michaelnovakjr> im hoping
May 03 16:31:21 <michaelnovakjr> i need more machines to really get this out there
May 03 16:31:26 <muthu> right
May 03 16:31:31 <muthu> so you need to get it out there
May 03 16:31:33 <muthu> that's the key
May 03 16:31:35 <michaelnovakjr> yea
May 03 16:31:39 <dmoffett> If my Mom is going to use it there will have to be one button that knows exactly what she wants.
May 03 16:31:48 <muthu> exactly
May 03 16:31:48 <dmoffett> so make it simple.
May 03 16:31:51 <muthu> keep the UI simple
May 03 16:31:52 <michaelnovakjr> dmoffett: there are no buttons
May 03 16:31:58 <muthu> yup
May 03 16:32:03 <muthu> that's the way it should be
May 03 16:32:11 <michaelnovakjr> you pretty much don't have to do anything just start the program or sign up for SMS alerts online
May 03 16:32:11 <muthu> open weather phone.. you get all alerts
May 03 16:32:21 <dmoffett> So it already knows.  Sweet.
May 03 16:32:27 <michaelnovakjr> sign up for SMS alerts once and never touch it again!
May 03 16:32:41 <dmoffett> Sweet, she will love ti.
May 03 16:33:00 <michaelnovakjr> online you type in your zipcode and the service does the rest
May 03 16:33:07 <dmoffett> Cool
May 03 16:33:08 <michaelnovakjr> and your cell number of course :)
May 03 16:33:18 <michaelnovakjr> but after that its 'hands free'
May 03 16:33:42 <michaelnovakjr> its especially great for nighttime when people aren't alerty
May 03 16:33:44 <michaelnovakjr> alert
May 03 16:37:40 <muthu> i've been through some rough weather when i was in US
May 03 16:37:43 <muthu> scary!
May 03 16:37:59 <dmoffett> Where about?
May 03 16:38:18 <muthu> oklahoma
May 03 16:38:26 <muthu> spring, texas
May 03 16:38:29 <dmoffett> yeah that is crazy there.
May 03 16:38:36 <muthu> unbeeeelievabe
May 03 16:38:46 <muthu> okla is crazy
May 03 16:38:58 <dmoffett> That is the arm pit of the nation.
May 03 16:39:12 <muthu> haha
May 03 16:39:32 <muthu> the drive from the airport
May 03 16:39:35 <muthu> you can see it
May 03 16:39:55 <dmoffett> We can have radical weather here but get more days of sunshine a year than San Diego.
May 03 16:40:10 <dmoffett> Colorado that is.
May 03 16:41:00 <muthu> i've never seen anything like ok
May 03 16:41:22 <dmoffett> I was stationed at Ft Sill and hope to never go back.
May 03 16:41:57 <muthu> when i say scary, i really mean it
May 03 16:42:27 <dmoffett> I remember crazy thunderstorms but there were no tornados while I was there.
May 03 16:43:20 <muthu> tornados passing left and right
May 03 16:43:51 <dmoffett> Where in OK?
May 03 16:44:34 <muthu> trying to remember
May 03 16:44:41 <muthu> where was that mci-worldcom hq?
May 03 16:44:56 <muthu> tulsa?
May 03 16:44:58 <dmoffett> no idea but it is probably best to forget.
May 03 16:45:03 <dmoffett> could be.
May 03 16:45:14 <muthu> think so
May 03 16:45:51 <dmoffett> Where are you now?
May 03 16:45:59 <muthu> chennai, india.
May 03 16:46:12 <muthu> right now at home
May 03 16:46:22 <muthu> having fun with family :)
May 03 16:46:44 <dmoffett> nice
May 03 16:47:02 <muthu> its such a small world
May 03 16:47:06 <dmoffett> So it is nice there, I would guess with the beaches and warm climate?
May 03 16:47:32 <muthu> oh yes
May 03 16:47:38 <muthu> butt burning heat
May 03 16:47:59 <dmoffett> not far from the equator.
May 03 16:48:17 <muthu> above 40+ C
May 03 16:48:21 <muthu> right now
May 03 16:48:40 <dmoffett> High Humidity?
May 03 16:48:49 <muthu> yup
May 03 16:48:57 <muthu> that's the problem
May 03 16:49:11 <muthu> you take a bath, the next moment you are sweating
May 03 16:49:21 <muthu> before you dry that is
May 03 16:49:23 <muthu> haha
May 03 16:49:24 <dmoffett> I would have to go for Dehra Dun
May 03 16:49:37 <dmoffett> Yeah I used to live in South Carolina.
May 03 16:49:47 <dmoffett> probably not quite a hot but pretty hot.
May 03 16:49:56 <muthu> right
May 03 16:49:59 <muthu> only the summer
May 03 16:50:13 <muthu> and its getting hot year by year
May 03 16:50:15 <dmoffett> Srinagar looks nice as well.
May 03 16:50:21 <muthu> kashmir
May 03 16:50:24 <muthu> lovely!!
May 03 16:50:50 <muthu> if you come to chennai, call me
May 03 16:50:52 <dmoffett> yeah, now that's where I would end up.
May 03 16:50:58 <dmoffett> will do.
May 03 16:51:32 <dmoffett> Same here for Colorado, not as nice as Kashmir but pretty nice.
May 03 16:52:07 <muthu> sure
May 03 16:52:32 <muthu> dmoffett: you know, matt raible?
May 03 16:52:42 <dmoffett> I will be in AF for Google IO
May 03 16:52:49 <dmoffett> Sorry I don't
May 03 16:53:12 <muthu> ok.. even i don;t
May 03 16:53:14 <muthu> lol
May 03 16:54:02 <dmoffett> Must be an Indian humor thing I don't get.  :-)
May 03 16:54:13 <muthu> haha
May 03 16:54:18 <muthu> yeah the culture clash
May 03 16:54:24 <muthu> that's ok
May 03 16:54:33 <michaelnovakjr> is he incognito?
May 03 16:54:53 <muthu> incoginito.. where is he?
May 03 16:54:59 <muthu> need to find him
May 03 16:54:59 <michaelnovakjr> ^
May 03 16:55:08 <muthu> michaelnovakjr_2: it should be you!!
May 03 16:55:14 <michaelnovakjr> matt riable
May 03 16:55:17 <dmoffett> Is Chennai where the tech is in India?
May 03 16:55:33 <muthu> no
May 03 16:55:36 <muthu> bengaluru
May 03 16:55:42 <muthu> is the silicon valley of india
May 03 16:56:34 <muthu> chennai is the last place to be
May 03 16:56:37 <muthu> very conservative
May 03 16:57:58 <dmoffett> I would have guessed a port city but not sure why.
May 03 16:58:07 <muthu> it is
May 03 16:58:52 <dmoffett> Bengaluru?  You guys do things different over there.  :-)
May 03 16:59:23 <muthu> i'm in chennai though ;)
May 03 16:59:36 <dmoffett> yeah it was a mis understanding.
May 03 16:59:46 <dmoffett> my bad.
May 03 17:00:03 <dmoffett> Electronic City.
May 03 17:00:07 <dmoffett> Got to love that.
May 03 17:00:35 <dmoffett> suburb of Bengaluru
May 03 17:01:42 <muthu> yeah
May 03 17:01:55 <muthu> india is something even indians don't understand
May 03 17:02:55 <dmoffett> Satellite Town
May 03 17:03:52 <muthu> right
May 03 17:04:20 <muthu> one visit to india
May 03 17:04:38 <muthu> will make you appreciate your life
May 03 17:05:06 <dmoffett> My step father visited many years ago.
May 03 17:05:18 <dmoffett> How so?
May 03 17:05:57 <muthu> you see different things
May 03 17:06:04 <muthu> the stuff you take it for granted
May 03 17:06:21 <muthu> you visit india
May 03 17:06:35 <muthu> then you can set out and reach anything
May 03 17:10:20 <muthu> anyone been to india?
May 03 17:10:21 <dmoffett> New Mexico has areas that have spirituality about them.  Is that the kind of thing you are referring to?
May 03 17:10:35 <muthu> spirituality is born in india
May 03 17:10:43 <muthu> :)
May 03 17:11:12 <dmoffett> That and a couple of over things as well.  :-)
May 03 17:11:37 <muthu> haha
May 03 17:11:59 <muthu> you experience india
May 03 17:12:03 <muthu> you experience life
May 03 17:12:23 <dmoffett> It would be very cool to visit for sure.
May 03 17:12:40 <muthu> visit when you have friends here
May 03 17:12:50 <muthu> if you are alone
May 03 17:12:52 <muthu> you are lost
May 03 17:13:02 <dmoffett> Image Larry the Cable guy in India.
May 03 17:13:48 <muthu> dmoffett: bring your kid to india
May 03 17:13:54 <muthu> give him an history lesson
May 03 17:13:55 <dmoffett> I have friends in London who wish they were Indian.
May 03 17:14:02 <dmoffett> He would love it.
May 03 17:14:12 <muthu> and i bet that's the best thing you can do to him
May 03 17:14:47 <muthu> come visit me
May 03 17:14:51 <tmcneal> well.. larry the cable guy is a character.. the guy who plays him is some comedian from south florida :p
May 03 17:16:10 <dmoffett> Well if you see him at Google IO say hello to David Moffett.  :-)
May 03 17:16:27 <muthu> i might or might not be there
May 03 17:16:30 <muthu> it depends
May 03 17:16:51 <dmoffett> Cool if you are there let me know.  We can go get some Indian food.
May 03 17:17:02 <muthu> sure thing
May 03 17:18:17 <dmoffett> Like I said we have one good restaurant in Montrose and it is an Indian restaurant.  I have asked if I can live there but owner said no.
May 03 17:18:56 <muthu> why?
May 03 17:18:59 <dmoffett> I think he must be from Nepal.
May 03 17:19:03 <muthu> haha
May 03 17:19:24 <muthu> yes
May 03 17:19:50 <dmoffett> I could eat there all the time but I would weigh like 300 pounds.
May 03 17:20:11 <muthu> biriyani
May 03 17:20:34 <muthu> if you had eaten the authentic thing, there's nothing like that
May 03 17:21:08 <dmoffett> I suspect I have not.  Getting all the right ingredients is probably hard.
May 03 17:21:15 <muthu> oh yeah
May 03 17:21:22 <muthu> its impossible outside south india
May 03 17:21:29 <dmoffett> My wife is Korean and she can't.
May 03 17:21:33 <muthu> no way
May 03 17:21:44 <muthu> there are speciality places even within chennai
May 03 17:21:50 <dmoffett> right
May 03 17:21:51 <muthu> that you'll have to go to get the authentic
May 03 17:22:06 <muthu> but when you get one.. oooooh
May 03 17:22:15 <dmoffett> I can't even get boiled peanuts here in Colorado.
May 03 17:22:46 <muthu> haha
May 03 17:23:12 <muthu> i'm telling you, there's nothing like biriyani
May 03 17:23:13 <dmoffett> That was the only redeeming quality of living in DC was the variety of food.
May 03 17:23:28 <dmoffett> I will seek it out while in SF.
May 03 17:23:34 <dmoffett> I have not seen that here.
May 03 17:23:35 <muthu> don't
May 03 17:23:44 <muthu> you'll be terribly disappointed
May 03 17:23:49 <muthu> and you'll blame me
May 03 17:23:54 <dmoffett> I guess I will have to visit you then.  :-)
May 03 17:23:58 <muthu> oh yes
May 03 17:24:13 <dmoffett> What is it?
May 03 17:24:26 <muthu> come over
May 03 17:24:30 <muthu> i'll show you around
May 03 17:24:34 <muthu> just do it
May 03 17:24:37 <dmoffett> Seems like there are many varieties.
May 03 17:24:42 <muthu> yes
May 03 17:24:50 <muthu> "hyderabadi"
May 03 17:24:53 <muthu> is the best!!!
May 03 17:24:57 <dmoffett> Cool
May 03 17:25:55 <dmoffett> Come to Google IO and help me convince my wife although we would probably have to come to India via Korea.
May 03 17:26:10 <muthu> oh yes
May 03 17:26:12 <muthu> sure
May 03 17:26:21 <muthu> i'll try to be there at IO
May 03 17:26:43 <muthu> it's been a long time since i've been in SF
May 03 17:26:59 <dmoffett> I can give you my cell number.
May 03 17:27:09 <muthu> if i'm there
May 03 17:27:12 <dmoffett> ok
May 03 17:27:19 <muthu> cool
May 03 17:27:44 <dmoffett> you can always contact me through vizzvox.com
May 03 17:27:52 <muthu> sure
May 03 18:21:16 <living_sword> the groups has turned into a whining corner
May 03 18:22:16 <jjt009> living_sword: definitely
May 03 18:22:26 <jjt009> but i do agree with some of the complaints
May 03 18:23:22 <jjt009> did your server get any hits?
May 03 18:23:46 <jjt009> Conversation Complete
May 03 18:23:58 <living_sword> my app doesnt have a server connection
May 03 18:24:09 <jjt009> i got my last hit on sunday
May 03 18:24:17 <living_sword> gives me peaceful sleep :)
May 03 18:24:25 <jjt009> yeah, i wish i was you
May 03 18:24:34 <jjt009> or that i didn't implement a logger mechanism
May 03 18:24:42 <jjt009> it's driving me crazy
May 03 18:25:25 <jjt009> what was your app?
May 03 18:25:25 <living_sword> i dont know anything abt the status of my app, and thats exciting.
May 03 18:25:45 <living_sword> cant disclose that now :|
May 03 18:25:53 <jjt009> ok
May 03 18:26:09 <jjt009> you workinhg with a companuy?
May 03 18:26:18 <living_sword> no. im a student
May 03 18:27:10 <living_sword> android came right in when i was wondering abt my final yr project
May 03 18:27:28 <muthu> my guess
May 03 18:27:30 <muthu> is
May 03 18:30:52 <Dougie187> hows everyones weekend going?
May 03 18:31:06 <muthu> Dougie187: fantastic!
May 03 18:31:15 <Dougie187> nice
May 03 18:31:24 <Dougie187> glad to hear its going to good
May 03 18:31:37 <muthu> it can't be any better
May 03 18:31:42 <Dougie187> heh
May 03 18:32:37 <muthu> saturday night here.. Sat May  3 23:50:53 IST 2008
May 03 18:32:51 <Dougie187> i wish that I could get my laptop back
May 03 18:32:55 <Dougie187> that would make my weekend better
May 03 18:33:00 <muthu> haha
May 03 18:33:02 <Dougie187> but that wont happen until next week some time
May 03 18:33:12 <muthu> yeah.. they'll delay
May 03 18:33:52 <Dougie187> man its like midnight there for you
May 03 18:33:54 <Dougie187> thats crazy
May 03 18:34:04 <Dougie187> so your ~9 hours ahead of me then
May 03 18:34:09 <muthu> oh yeah
May 03 18:34:16 <muthu> krazy!!
May 03 18:34:36 <living_sword> midnite is good for programming
May 03 18:34:42 <muthu> haha
May 03 18:34:43 <Dougie187> lol
May 03 18:34:47 <Dougie187> depends what kinda person you are
May 03 18:34:48 <muthu> really?
May 03 18:34:54 <Dougie187> 7 am might be good for programming
May 03 18:35:07 <muthu> the best time for programming is...
May 03 18:35:23 <Dougie187> i like to program when programming needs to be done
May 03 18:35:27 <Dougie187> personally
May 03 18:35:31 <muthu> right
May 03 18:35:37 <Dougie187> otherwise its game time
May 03 18:38:18 <living_sword> its strange, all this whining and media hasnt picked up anything
May 03 18:38:21 <muthu> any googlers here?
May 03 18:38:31 <muthu> media is dead
May 03 18:39:07 <muthu> am surprise why google is not using the media yet
May 03 18:39:19 <living_sword> i expect engadget to carry an article on this
May 03 18:39:34 <Dougie187> i like engadget
May 03 18:39:54 <Dougie187> btw. living_sword: this weekend is a no android talk weekend.
May 03 18:39:59 <Dougie187> we discussed this yesterday
May 03 18:40:07 <Dougie187> noone is supposed to talk about android until monday
May 03 18:40:36 <living_sword> hmm
May 03 18:40:57 <Dougie187> Its mainly because people get paranoid and start whining
May 03 18:41:21 <living_sword> here too? dooh!
May 03 18:41:31 <Dougie187> it happens
May 03 18:43:05 <muthu> Dougie187: then why the topic has not changed?
May 03 18:43:15 <Dougie187> I dont think people got to morrildl before he left.
May 03 18:43:18 <Dougie187> they tried though
May 03 18:43:31 <Dougie187> but it was the concensus yesterday
May 03 18:43:36 <Dougie187> anyways
May 03 18:43:41 <Dougie187> what kinda video games do you guys like?
May 03 18:43:56 <living_sword> racing
May 03 18:44:00 <Dougie187> oh man. i saw hot fuzz last night
May 03 18:44:03 <Dougie187> that movie was really funn
May 03 18:44:03 <Dougie187> y
May 03 18:45:50 <living_sword> any1 heard abt apple going worldwide with their developer program ?
May 03 18:46:08 <Dougie187> i think i may have heard something
May 03 18:46:54 <muthu> Dougie187: what?
May 03 18:47:02 <living_sword> someone claims to have got in from UK
May 03 18:47:44 <Dougie187> ?
May 03 18:47:47 <Dougie187> muthu.
May 03 18:48:04 <muthu> Dougie187: what you heard?
May 03 18:48:21 <Dougie187> i dont remember. i just read something about it a little while ago
May 03 18:48:25 <Dougie187> mayber yesterday or something
May 03 18:48:28 <Dougie187> not very specific
May 03 18:48:28 <muthu> oh ok
May 03 18:48:36 <muthu> i thought you had some news
May 03 18:48:37 <jjt009> eyo
May 03 18:48:43 <jjt009> hello muthu
May 03 18:49:38 <living_sword> getting in the apple developer program is a contest in itself
May 03 18:51:11 <muthu> jjt009: hi
May 03 19:02:28 <jjt009> do any of you know how to develop for the iphone on linxu?
May 03 19:02:30 <jjt009> linux
May 03 19:02:51 <muthu> jjt009: there's no iphone for linux
May 03 19:03:11 <jjt009> no i mean run the iphone sdk or a similar toolkit on linux
May 03 19:03:23 <jjt009> now apple has only released to developers using macintosh systems
May 03 19:05:03 <Kraln> it's objective c.
May 03 19:05:04 <muthu> jjt009: can you run iphone sdk on linux?
May 03 19:05:09 <Kraln> muthu: no
May 03 19:05:11 <Kraln> it requires xcode
May 03 19:05:14 <Kraln> which requires osx.
May 03 19:05:17 <Kraln> 10.5, to be exact
May 03 19:05:28 <muthu> Kraln: that's my point
May 03 19:05:35 <muthu> jjt009: it doesn't run on linux
May 03 19:06:23 <davidw> no Linux, no party
May 03 19:09:32 <muthu> no party, no linux
May 03 19:09:38 <muthu> lol
May 03 19:10:10 <jjt009> that's retarded
May 03 19:10:20 <jjt009> only 9% of computer users have mac
May 03 19:10:28 <jjt009> linux beats out mac by a large margin
May 03 19:10:32 <jjt009> linux is dominant
May 03 19:10:40 <jjt009> right now i am writing a driver for my webcam
May 03 19:10:49 <Dougie187> they like to be proprietary
May 03 19:11:00 <jjt009> the webcams
May 03 19:11:02 <jjt009> ?
May 03 19:11:04 <jjt009> i don't think so
May 03 19:11:12 <Dougie187> no. applke
May 03 19:11:13 <jjt009> there are a lot of drivers out there already for webcams
May 03 19:11:16 <jjt009> ohh
May 03 19:11:22 <jjt009> yeah, apple sucks
May 03 19:11:32 <jjt009> they take open source darwin and make it propietary
May 03 19:11:34 <jjt009> horrible
May 03 19:12:14 <Dougie187> yup. they are homos.
May 03 19:12:14 <Dougie187> lol
May 03 19:12:19 <muthu> apple
May 03 19:12:26 <Dougie187> yup
May 03 19:12:34 <muthu> don't know what to say about them
May 03 19:12:42 <Dougie187> they suck.
May 03 19:12:42 <jerkface03> 2 more days \o/
May 03 19:12:44 <Dougie187> thats it
May 03 19:12:44 <muthu> dumping old models for an higher price!!
May 03 19:12:44 <Dougie187> lol
May 03 19:13:30 * davidw wonders how many more days for the baby
May 03 19:13:45 <muthu> davidw: how many?
May 03 19:13:48 <jerkface03> 2!
May 03 19:13:50 <muthu> man you are lucky!!
May 03 19:14:04 <davidw> well, officially it's today, but the baby doesn't seem to be in agreement
May 03 19:14:11 <muthu> haha
May 03 19:14:16 <muthu> that's always the case
May 03 19:14:27 <muthu> allright, its May 5!
May 03 19:14:45 * davidw can't offer google style prizes for correct guesses
May 03 19:14:56 <Kraln> I say May 4th
May 03 19:15:04 <muthu> ha!
May 03 19:15:14 <muthu> finally got scoble attention in twitter
May 03 19:15:21 <muthu> he says he's going to cover android soon
May 03 19:15:21 <davidw> I'm going to go long and go for the 10th - my own birthday is november 10th
May 03 19:17:07 <muthu> scoble doing videos on android.. wonder who's he interviewing?
May 03 19:17:16 <muthu> romainguy__: are you the one?
May 03 19:18:44 <davidw> BBL
May 03 19:27:59 <romainguy__> muthu: Nope :)
May 03 19:28:12 <muthu> then who is it?
May 03 19:28:17 <romainguy__> I don't kno
May 03 19:28:19 <romainguy__> know
May 03 19:28:24 <romainguy__> do you have the link?
May 03 19:28:27 <muthu> probably morrill then
May 03 19:28:33 <muthu> its in my twitter stream
May 03 19:28:41 <muthu> my twitter account: intellibitz
May 03 19:28:43 <romainguy__> Just give me the link
May 03 19:28:52 <muthu> or look in scoble
May 03 19:28:58 <muthu> ok.. let me find the link
May 03 19:30:02 <muthu> http://twitter.com/Scobleizer/statuses/802760041
May 03 19:30:05 <muthu> there you go
May 03 19:32:06 <romainguy__> ah you have crazybob in your list, cool
May 03 19:32:26 <muthu> love crazybob and his twubble
May 03 19:32:47 <muthu> how do you think i have the insider connection that everyone talks about?
May 03 19:32:49 <muthu> haha
May 03 19:32:50 <muthu> lol
May 03 19:35:46 <muthu> scoble interviews only vip's btw
May 03 19:35:56 <muthu> so it should be someone really important
May 03 19:36:29 <muthu> oh well, i cannot say this in the public because then i'll be laughed at, again!!
May 03 19:39:37 <romainguy__> what are you talking about?
May 03 19:39:51 <muthu> who's scoble interviewing?
May 03 19:39:58 <romainguy__> I don't know
May 03 19:40:05 <romainguy__> and actually, I don't care :)
May 03 19:40:09 <muthu> haha
May 03 19:40:14 <muthu> that's what i'm talking about
May 03 19:42:19 <muthu> romainguy__: when the next SDK?
May 03 19:43:23 <romainguy__> muthu: ask your insider connection :p
May 03 19:43:48 <muthu> haha
May 03 19:44:05 <muthu> its coming soon
May 03 19:44:14 <muthu> that's the word on the street
May 03 19:45:24 <romainguy__> it will be released when it will be released
May 03 19:45:37 <muthu> oh oh
May 03 19:45:53 <muthu> we are waiting........
May 03 19:45:55 <muthu> ........
May 03 19:46:24 <romainguy__> I know but I cannot tell you
May 03 19:46:27 <romainguy__> Ask Dan
May 03 19:46:28 <Dougie187> hey romainguy___ can you change the topic?
May 03 19:46:37 <muthu> Dan is in the hiding
May 03 19:46:43 <muthu> just like me ;)
May 03 19:47:42 <muthu> have you checked the forums?
May 03 19:47:43 <Dougie187> romainguy_: can you make the topic "this weekend is a no android weekend, please wait until monday to talk about android"?
May 03 19:47:51 <muthu> they are after dan.. lol
May 03 19:48:02 <romainguy__> Dougie187: I would gladly do it if I could :)
May 03 19:48:07 <Dougie187> bust
May 03 19:48:09 <romainguy__> Ask Dan ;-)
May 03 19:48:20 <Dougie187> hes not here though.
May 03 19:48:24 <muthu> romainguy___: is he logged in?
May 03 19:48:26 <Dougie187> whats his email?
May 03 19:48:26 <muthu> haha
May 03 19:48:33 <muthu> what's his new nick?
May 03 19:48:36 <Dougie187> lol
May 03 19:48:42 <muthu> lo;
May 03 19:48:44 <muthu> lol
May 03 19:48:50 <Dougie187> whats his phonenumber?
May 03 19:48:55 <Dougie187> and his street address.
May 03 19:48:58 <Dougie187> perhaps his ssn too?
May 03 19:49:01 <muthu> haha
May 03 19:49:07 <muthu> 111 - 111 - 1011
May 03 19:49:15 <Dougie187> lol 1 too many numbers.
May 03 19:49:19 <muthu> haha
May 03 19:49:26 <Dougie187> 111 - 11 - 1011
May 03 19:49:35 <muthu> you should check the forums.. to really get this joke
May 03 19:49:48 <muthu> :)
May 03 19:51:09 <muthu> romainguy__: did you have a chance to check out any adc app?
May 03 19:51:39 <romainguy__> no I didn't look at the ADC entries
May 03 19:51:48 <muthu> hmm
May 03 19:51:52 <muthu> then you are at peace
May 03 19:51:54 <Dougie187> muthu: no android weekend
May 03 19:52:04 <Dougie187> only video games and movies and other such things
May 03 19:52:07 <Dougie187> but... no android
May 03 19:52:17 <muthu> Dougie187: there's only you and me here
May 03 19:52:19 <muthu> so ;)
May 03 19:52:25 <Dougie187> so, no android.
May 03 19:52:26 <Dougie187> :)
May 03 19:55:25 <Dougie187> what video games do you like muthu?
May 03 19:56:43 <muthu> Dougie187: games is something i stay away from
May 03 19:56:56 <Dougie187> what movies do you like?
May 03 19:57:30 <muthu> Dougie187: movies is something i stay away from
May 03 19:57:32 <muthu> haha
May 03 19:57:56 <Dougie187> well what do you not stay away from?
May 03 19:58:03 <muthu> lol
May 03 19:58:03 <Dougie187> aside from android
May 03 19:58:42 <muthu> My HBO currently runs "Harry Potter".. should i watch it?
May 03 19:58:49 <Dougie187> sure
May 03 19:58:53 <Dougie187> go check that out.
May 03 19:58:57 <Dougie187> which one is it?
May 03 19:59:15 <muthu> The sorceror stone
May 03 19:59:18 <Dougie187> sure
May 03 19:59:22 <Dougie187> go watch it
May 03 19:59:25 <Dougie187> then come back and give a review
May 03 19:59:28 <muthu> haha
May 03 19:59:34 <Dougie187> you have kids right?
May 03 19:59:37 <muthu> yeah
May 03 19:59:44 <Dougie187> get them to come watch it with you
May 03 19:59:49 <muthu> 2 of them..
May 03 19:59:59 <Dougie187> cuddle up on the couch with them and watch harry potter
May 03 20:00:14 <muthu> one is 4 and the other 1
May 03 20:00:22 <Dougie187> perfect movie for them
May 03 20:00:32 <muthu> correct
May 03 20:00:41 <muthu> a little young
May 03 20:00:47 <muthu> but they'll pester me soon
May 03 20:00:55 <Dougie187> heh
May 03 20:01:13 <muthu> to take them to the movies
May 03 20:01:21 <muthu> which is fun
May 03 20:01:43 <Dougie187> heh
May 03 20:03:08 <muthu> Dougie187: what's the movie you liked best?
May 03 20:04:31 <jjt009> muthu: just a few more days...
May 03 20:04:39 <muthu> jjt009: excited??
May 03 20:04:44 <jjt009> yep
May 03 20:04:50 <Dougie187> ...
May 03 20:04:52 <Dougie187> boys..
May 03 20:04:54 <jjt009> you know, i wish i hadn't set up server logs
May 03 20:05:01 <muthu> jjt009: why?
May 03 20:05:04 <jjt009> i'm getting pretty paranoid
May 03 20:05:11 <muthu> still?
May 03 20:05:34 <jjt009> yep, cause i'm unsure whether the top 100 judging has already compelted...
May 03 20:05:47 <jjt009> Dougie187: sorry, man, we'll be done in a sec
May 03 20:05:56 <jjt009> then we can go back to talking about movies
May 03 20:06:07 <muthu> jjt009: what?
May 03 20:06:12 <muthu> you are still not sure?
May 03 20:06:31 <jjt009> yeah, jasta said his last hit was sunday
May 03 20:06:34 <jjt009> same day as me
May 03 20:06:46 <Dougie187> im out.
May 03 20:06:54 <jjt009> and jasta has a pretty good app
May 03 20:07:18 <jjt009> so i don't know if mine was just one of the last to be judged or if it is one of the top 100
May 03 20:10:43 <Lede> who started this top 100 thing
May 03 20:11:11 <romainguy___> Lede: Dan did
May 03 20:11:37 <Lede> dan morrill?
May 03 20:11:47 <romainguy___> yes
May 03 20:11:50 <Lede> oh ok
May 03 20:12:02 <Lede> then i guess it isnt made
May 03 20:12:06 <Lede> +up
May 03 20:12:41 <muthu> Lede: what's your app?
May 03 20:12:53 <Lede> well
May 03 20:13:00 <Lede> i could upload my readme
May 03 20:13:07 <Lede> but ill just wait
May 03 20:13:28 <muthu> don't upload
May 03 20:13:31 <muthu> tell me what it is
May 03 20:14:14 <Lede> why?
May 03 20:14:36 <Lede> you scare me :|
May 03 20:15:54 <muthu> really>
May 03 20:15:57 <muthu> why?
May 03 20:16:36 <Kraln> hmm
May 03 20:16:41 <Kraln> that tornado spawning storm is hitting me
May 03 20:16:43 <Lede> muthu: you asked me what my applicationg is twice!
May 03 20:16:49 <Lede> -g
May 03 20:16:52 <jerkface03> Lede: what's your application?
May 03 20:16:55 <muthu> haha
May 03 20:16:57 * Lede dies
May 03 20:17:05 <muthu> take it easy
May 03 20:17:59 <muthu> we just mean fun
May 03 20:18:12 <muthu> and are all fellow developers just like you
May 03 20:18:29 <muthu> nothing to be scared of
May 03 20:19:16 <Lede> muthu: you think you will win?
May 03 20:19:21 <muthu> yes
May 03 20:20:03 <Lede> why?
May 03 20:20:16 <muthu> i believe
May 03 20:20:20 <muthu> that's why
May 03 20:20:27 <Lede> i habeeb!
May 03 20:20:42 <muthu> mine is a top secret too
May 03 20:20:54 <muthu> but i can say, its a cooking app
May 03 20:21:37 <Lede> habeeb it! -> http://ittybittybabyittybittyboat.ytmnd.com/
May 03 20:21:47 <Lede> twinkie house!
May 03 20:21:50 <Lede> lol
May 03 20:22:23 <muthu> haha
May 03 20:22:32 <muthu> i would rather see a dilbert comic
May 03 20:22:49 <muthu> habeeb!
May 03 20:22:51 <muthu> cool
May 03 20:23:00 <Lede> wait
May 03 20:23:05 <Lede> this one is better http://timetraveler.ytmnd.com/
May 03 20:23:31 <muthu> oh oh
May 03 20:23:43 <muthu> Lede:  i hate to say it, but you are scaring me now
May 03 20:23:46 <muthu> :)
May 03 20:23:52 <Lede> it's oke
May 03 20:23:56 <Lede> i'm from the internets
May 03 20:24:00 <muthu> haha
May 03 20:25:57 <muthu> Lede: if you are not scared, where you from
May 03 20:25:59 <muthu> ?
May 03 20:26:33 <Lede> netherlands, but my parents are from morocco
May 03 20:26:40 <muthu> cool
May 03 20:26:49 <muthu> now we are getting to know each other
May 03 20:27:01 <muthu> i'm from chennai, india
May 03 20:27:08 <umdk1d4> aww too bad the n810 doesnt work with m5  :(  some framebuffer issue
May 03 20:27:20 <Dougie187> m5?
May 03 20:27:29 <umdk1d4> android m5 sdk
May 03 20:27:37 <Dougie187> oh
May 03 20:27:45 <Lede> muthu: is chennai in the north or south of india?
May 03 20:27:52 <muthu> south india
May 03 20:27:57 <muthu> its was formerly madras
May 03 20:28:05 <umdk1d4> i have piles of strace dumps tho lol
May 03 20:28:14 * umdk1d4 goes to find lunch
May 03 20:28:53 <Lede> muthu: madras being?
May 03 20:29:09 <muthu> its a city.. now called chennai
May 03 20:29:25 <Dougie187> whats indias capital?
May 03 20:29:38 <muthu> Dougie187: New Delhi
May 03 20:29:40 <davidw> Madras is a town in Oregon ;-P
May 03 20:29:44 <Dougie187> heh yeah it is
May 03 20:29:48 <Dougie187> i know some people from there
May 03 20:29:58 <Dougie187> thats what i was thinking when he said Madras
May 03 20:30:09 <Dougie187> david, you from oregon?
May 03 20:30:14 <davidw> yeah, Eugene
May 03 20:30:17 <Dougie187> nice.
May 03 20:30:20 <jjt009> i'm from wyoming
May 03 20:30:23 <Dougie187> i just moved from corvallis a little bit ago
May 03 20:30:32 <Dougie187> my family lives in mcminnville
May 03 20:30:38 <davidw> Dougie187, hopefully the mold has cleared up
May 03 20:30:38 <Lede> madras means school in arabic
May 03 20:30:43 <Lede> :o)
May 03 20:31:13 <Dougie187> in corvallis?
May 03 20:31:14 <muthu> Lede: good to know ;)
May 03 20:32:03 <Dougie187> davidw: in corvallis? or mcminnville?
May 03 20:32:22 <davidw> well, hopefully you've gotten rid of the mold after having left Oregon
May 03 20:32:33 <Dougie187> oh
May 03 20:32:33 <Dougie187> lol
May 03 20:32:37 <Dougie187> i dont know about that.
May 03 20:32:44 <Dougie187> hopefully though. because i am very allergic to mold.
May 03 20:32:57 <Dougie187> my wife and I live in florida now.
May 03 20:33:06 <Lede> mold? ._o
May 03 20:33:07 <Dougie187> heh, just about two opposite corners.
May 03 20:41:06 <muthu> wow, news from dan in the forums
May 03 20:41:09 <muthu> anyone see it?
May 03 20:41:13 <Dougie187> ...
May 03 20:41:20 <Dougie187> hows harry potter?
May 03 20:41:45 <muthu> Dougie187: i swithched channels.. to a kung fu movie ;)
May 03 20:41:51 <Dougie187> lol which one?
May 03 20:42:01 <muthu> the drunken monk!
May 03 20:42:09 <Dougie187> i have never heard of it
May 03 20:42:15 <muthu> really?
May 03 20:42:19 <Dougie187> nope
May 03 20:42:21 <muthu> that's a famous moview
May 03 20:42:22 <Dougie187> whos in it?
May 03 20:42:27 <muthu> jackie chan
May 03 20:42:31 <Dougie187> called the drunken monk?
May 03 20:42:34 <muthu> yeah
May 03 20:42:38 <davidw> the drunken master
May 03 20:42:38 <Dougie187> do you mean the drunken master
May 03 20:42:39 <Dougie187> ?
May 03 20:42:41 <davidw> that's awesome
May 03 20:42:41 <Dougie187> yeah
May 03 20:42:45 <Dougie187> ive seen that
May 03 20:42:47 <Dougie187> it is awesome
May 03 20:42:49 <Lede> muthu: http://lolgoogle.ytmnd.com/
May 03 20:42:54 <Dougie187> its called the drunken monk there?
May 03 20:42:59 <muthu> correct
May 03 20:43:06 <muthu> they name differently in every country
May 03 20:43:23 <Lede> muthu: it has bollywood music!
May 03 20:43:39 <davidw> muthu, dan? forum?
May 03 20:43:40 <Dougie187> that weird
May 03 20:44:08 <muthu> davidw: yeah news from dan in the challenge forums
May 03 20:45:28 <muthu> Lede: the drunken monk?
May 03 20:46:03 <Lede> muthu: what is the drunken monk?
May 03 20:46:16 <muthu> its a kung fu movie
May 03 20:46:57 <davidw> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunken_Master
May 03 20:47:02 <Lede> never heard of it
May 03 20:47:51 <muthu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shaolin_Drunken_Monk
May 03 20:48:34 <Lede> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunkenness
May 03 20:53:00 <Dougie187> that is not the movie i thought it was.
May 03 20:53:59 <Dougie187> this is what i thought it was
May 03 20:53:59 <Dougie187> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunken_Master
May 03 20:55:40 <muthu> Dougie187: so there's a lot of drunken stuff
May 03 20:55:46 <muthu> and its all renamed per country
May 03 20:56:44 <mihoshi> When will be results known? Tomorrow?
May 03 20:57:51 <Dougie187> man i wish michaelnovakjr_2 was in here.
May 03 20:57:59 <Dougie187> he can work for the whole no android talk too then
May 03 20:58:05 <muthu> haha
May 03 21:01:37 <Lede> mihoshi: perhaps monday
May 03 21:01:54 <Lede> maybe in june
May 03 21:01:58 <Lede> :-o
May 03 21:02:31 <jerkface03> aha
May 03 21:02:36 <jerkface03> wikipedia is great
May 03 21:02:48 <jerkface03> i just clicked on random article and came to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_and_Lesbian_Employees_at_Microsoft
May 03 21:03:00 <Dougie187> lol
May 03 21:03:28 <Lede> that's just wrong
May 03 21:03:33 <jerkface03> what's so wrong about it?
May 03 21:03:42 <Lede> why would you have seperate article for it
May 03 21:04:06 <jerkface03> who knows, but i think it's just funny that it's there
May 03 21:04:24 <jerkface03> it shows the notability criteria for being on wikipedia is pretty low
May 03 21:04:26 <Lede> oh wait, it talks about something else
May 03 21:05:03 <muthu> good night droids
May 03 21:05:22 <Lede> jerkface03: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_file_systems&oldid=209063556#Features
May 03 21:06:08 <Lede> look at the tables last column
May 03 21:06:13 <jerkface03> ya i see it
May 03 21:06:16 <jerkface03> not really funny
May 03 21:06:37 <Lede> boo!
May 03 21:28:47 <f00f-> heh, saw that
May 03 21:28:55 <f00f-> it's the file system with killer performance
May 03 21:29:46 <Lede> ho ho!
May 03 21:29:56 <Lede> :o)
May 03 21:30:07 <mihoshi> And it killed only one wife so far...
May 03 21:30:37 <Lede> i bet some wife died somewhere on this planet because of FAT32
May 03 21:30:48 <f00f-> without a doubt
May 03 21:31:18 <Lede> i shouldnt find this funny actually, because i really hate it when people vandalise wikipedia
May 03 21:31:28 <Lede> but this.. is just funny.
May 03 21:31:43 <Dougie187> i hate it when people vandalise wikipedia as well
May 03 21:31:58 <Dougie187> i am always pushing the fact that its "peer reviewed"
May 03 21:32:08 <Dougie187> it makes it hard to believe that.
May 03 21:40:20 <f00f-> :D
May 03 21:55:42 <Kraln> I just stuck a bunch of ibm model m keycaps in the dishwasher
May 03 21:58:08 <Dougie187> lol
May 03 21:58:11 <Dougie187> sounds like a party
May 03 22:06:53 <duey> man there are a lot of people crying on the mailing lists
May 03 22:08:39 <Dougie187> people need to shut up and wait until monday.
May 03 22:08:59 <f00f-> i think the judges are done judging them sunday evening
May 03 22:09:17 <f00f-> they'll do a once-over on monday
May 03 22:09:23 <f00f-> but we don't know what time the results will be out
May 03 22:12:15 <duey> it clearly says week of the 5th
May 03 22:12:19 <duey> 5th is a monday
May 03 22:12:29 <duey> but i was more reffering to people complaining about judges
May 03 22:13:01 <Dougie187> people are just speculating.
May 03 22:13:06 <Dougie187> they dont "know" anything for sure.
May 03 22:13:09 <Dougie187> so they just need to stop.
May 03 22:13:14 <Dougie187> its not doing anyone any good
May 03 22:13:23 <duey> well i think its funny
May 03 22:13:29 <Dougie187> sure its funny for a while.
May 03 22:13:39 <Dougie187> but when everyone starts being all paranoid it gets irritating
May 03 22:13:45 <duey> yeah true
May 03 22:14:02 <Dougie187> and personally its gone past that point for me
May 03 22:14:02 <Dougie187> heh
May 03 22:14:16 <duey> i dont read the mailing lists a lot
May 03 22:14:26 <duey> probably read <1% of the posts
May 03 22:15:54 <Dougie187> yeah i havent read them yet
May 03 22:53:12 <dfas> has there been any release dates for android harware made public?
May 03 22:53:23 <Dougie187> no
May 03 22:55:09 <dfas> will the winning entries to Google's Android development competition be announced?
May 03 22:55:45 <Dougie187> why not?
May 03 22:56:00 <Dougie187> i dont think it would make much sense to have a competition and not announce the winners
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