**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 04 02:59:57 2008
May 04 05:36:22 <jerkface03> boop
May 04 05:36:24 <jerkface03> monday's almost here
May 04 07:38:44 <jerkface03> 1 more day
May 04 07:40:28 <dueynz> you assume they are going to annouce on monday
May 04 07:41:16 <romainguy___> jerkface03: it says "Week of May 5th" :))
May 04 07:41:26 <romainguy___> "Week of May 5, 2008: $25,000 awards are announced for 50 most promising entries" from http://code.google.com/android/adc_faq.html
May 04 07:42:04 <jerkface03> oh? I guess i missed the "week of" part
May 04 07:42:22 <jerkface03> but it'll probably happen on monday?
May 04 07:42:32 <romainguy___> I don't  know
May 04 07:42:33 <romainguy___> I
May 04 07:42:39 <jerkface03> yes you do. SPILL IT.
May 04 07:42:45 <jerkface03> lol
May 04 07:42:52 <romainguy___> I'm just saying that if it does not, it was specified :)
May 04 07:43:41 <dueynz> so many sad people on the mailing lists
May 04 07:43:48 * dueynz closes it
May 04 07:44:35 <dueynz> so you cant buy houses in gta :(:(
May 04 07:44:41 <jerkface03> funk that
May 04 07:44:43 <jerkface03> read a book
May 04 07:44:50 <romainguy___> GTA is boring me
May 04 07:44:53 <dueynz> yeah
May 04 07:44:56 <dueynz> its bored me too
May 04 07:45:33 <dueynz> oh well all the ps3 games i have have bored me
May 04 07:45:35 <dueynz> lol
May 04 07:45:58 <romainguy___> ^^
May 04 07:46:11 <jerkface03> dueynz: well maybe you should get the PS3 SDK and make your own game? only $15,000 + a 24/hour support line + an established reputation for making video games
May 04 07:46:55 <dueynz> im not a game develper
May 04 07:46:58 <dueynz> developer
May 04 07:47:27 <dueynz> i have done some really basic gaming stuff before and i find it pretty boring, loading textures pretty much
May 04 07:47:36 <dueynz> i would be interested in the AI stuff
May 04 07:47:45 <romainguy___> I have been a game developer (for a very short time)
May 04 07:47:49 <romainguy___> and my PS3 games bore me :))
May 04 07:48:05 <jerkface03> console? pc? handheld? phone?
May 04 07:48:09 <jerkface03> which one?
May 04 07:48:15 <dueynz> yeah whats up with ps3 games, i have heaps of them and the only one i liked was resistance
May 04 07:48:15 <romainguy___> GameBoy Advance
May 04 07:48:34 <jerkface03> gb is ok
May 04 07:48:35 <romainguy___> dueynz: I bought next to none actually
May 04 07:48:42 <dueynz> good move
May 04 07:48:42 <jerkface03> i downloaded the homebrew kit for the ds last month
May 04 07:48:53 <romainguy___> which is weird because I have lots of games on Xbox 360, Wii, Ds, PSP, etc.
May 04 07:49:04 <dueynz> lol i got a psp and played it once
May 04 07:49:08 <dueynz> its still in the box
May 04 07:49:10 <romainguy___> it's my second PSP
May 04 07:49:18 <romainguy___> I sold the first one after I noticed it was covered with dust :)
May 04 07:49:23 <dueynz> haha
May 04 07:49:34 <romainguy___> but when I left France I sold my consoles and ended up with something like 500 euros of store credit... :))
May 04 07:50:18 <dueynz> yeah i should realy sell up my stuf
May 04 07:50:18 <dueynz> it all collects dust
May 04 08:49:10 <muthu> hallo
May 04 08:49:25 <muthu> thanks dan for the explanation in the forums
May 04 09:34:00 <Lede> http://code.google.com/p/android-for-gods/
May 04 09:34:04 <Lede> :-|
May 04 09:37:19 <romainguy___> weird
May 04 09:39:14 <Lede> if you make a projcet on sourceforge there is someone who checks it before allowing you to acces the webhosting facilities and stuff
May 04 09:39:37 <Lede> not so on google's project hosting i assume?
May 04 09:39:51 <Lede> s/projcet/project
May 04 09:45:54 <Lede> the only thing i can say is worth winning is Duo..
May 04 09:46:04 <Lede> -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwSBLdGCjnY
May 04 09:47:10 <romainguy___> it looks good
May 04 09:47:46 <Lede> yeah, i can't wait to see the top 50
May 04 09:48:09 <Lede> it's like a miniature second life :P
May 04 11:06:46 <Cpg> hello ?
May 04 11:25:32 <ligi> Cpg: hello!
May 04 11:51:21 <Cpg> why is this channel is so quite?
May 04 11:59:27 <Lede> Cpg: it's sunday
May 04 11:59:35 <Lede> everyone is outside
May 04 15:32:44 <muthu> channa masala, anyone?
May 04 15:33:22 <muthu> add a samosa, yummy!
May 04 17:00:04 <muthu> dan, you here?
May 04 17:31:27 <Sicent> hi mattew
May 04 17:31:52 <muthu> where's mattew?
May 04 17:32:00 <muthu> Sicent: you mean, me?
May 04 17:32:20 <Sicent> yes are you not mattew?
May 04 17:32:30 <muthu> haha
May 04 17:32:49 <muthu> why would i be mattew?
May 04 17:33:10 <Sicent> your name sounds like that
May 04 17:33:28 <muthu> my name sounds more like muthu
May 04 17:33:33 <muthu> lol
May 04 17:34:31 <muthu> Sicent: hi
May 04 17:34:32 <Sicent> yes an  indian dialect for matthew, isnt it?
May 04 17:34:43 <Sicent> yes
May 04 17:34:44 <Sicent> ?
May 04 17:34:53 <muthu> no.. its a tamil word
May 04 17:35:00 <muthu> where you from?
May 04 17:35:13 <Sicent> tamil?
May 04 17:35:20 <Sicent> i am from china
May 04 17:35:23 <muthu> cool
May 04 17:35:37 <muthu> you submit any ADC app?
May 04 17:35:53 <Sicent> yes , a small one
May 04 17:36:02 <muthu> excited?
May 04 17:36:17 <muthu> Sicent: ha, now i get you matthew reference ;)
May 04 18:07:56 <convivial> msg johnflux L'Hospitals rule dude! L'hospitals rule!
May 04 18:09:59 <muthu> convivial: what?
May 04 19:40:24 <jjt009> ayo ayo
May 04 19:40:29 <jjt009> anyone got any hits recently?
May 04 19:40:36 <jjt009> my last was on sunday
May 04 19:40:39 <jjt009> last sunday i mean
May 04 19:40:50 <jjt009> anyone here?
May 04 19:42:01 <ligi> here but no hit
May 04 19:42:13 <jjt009> man, that's not good
May 04 19:42:20 <mickrobk> nothin since monday
May 04 19:42:25 <jjt009> maybe you set up your firewall incorrectly
May 04 19:42:37 <ligi> cant measure hitz either
May 04 19:42:39 <jjt009> mickrobk: yeah, i haven't heard about anyone getting hits after that
May 04 19:45:06 <mickrobk> jjt009: I guess im hoping they asked the judges to test w/o internet connections; though that seems unlikely.... :)
May 04 19:47:46 <tomgibara> My server hasn't been hit by a judge since the 29th, so I'm pretty sure my app won't be one of the 50, but I think everyone should try to put it out of their mind
May 04 19:48:00 <tomgibara> The forums seem to be getting a bit ugly
May 04 19:48:11 <mickrobk> tomgibara: no kidding
May 04 19:51:30 <tomgibara> I think Google should've published another SDK update if they could, it would have taken people's minds off the voting.
May 04 19:53:37 <mickrobk> it definitely would have been better timed a week ago than if it comes next week when everyone is inevitibly mad at android.
May 04 19:55:23 <tomgibara> I'm sure that at least one person is going to complain when the new SDK is eventually published that their app was disadvantaged by the absence of some new feature that the final 50 will be able to incorporate.
May 04 19:55:51 <jjt009> tomgibara: no doubt
May 04 19:56:05 <jjt009> yeah, the android-challenge group has turned into a complaint channel
May 04 19:58:47 <mickrobk> i had thought that was the reason that there was no skd update before the deadline, but that obviously wasn't the case. I suppose the time demands for organinzing the contest r probably more than I think though. + the time giving their developers breaks after the deadline
May 04 19:58:56 <tomgibara> I think it's right that people should have a forum for voicing their concerns - criticism can be constructive - but many of the posts are so hyperbolic.
May 04 20:04:48 <tomgibara> I think one of the publically stated reasons for not releasing an SDK update was because they didn't want entrants to the ADC to feel pressured into upgrading their apps.
May 04 20:05:50 <tomgibara> I hope they were really thinking about the sanity of the engineers working on Android and giving them a break.
May 04 20:07:58 <mickrobk> tomgibara: yea, morridl mentioned that he's on vacation now, and romainguy said he's going to miss google i/o due to a vacation, so i think that's a good sign
May 04 20:45:28 <lummie> anyone else think tomorrow is so far away?
May 04 20:46:39 <ligi> ;.)
May 04 20:47:11 <ligi> do you think tomorow will happen something
May 04 20:47:14 <ligi> ?-)
May 04 20:48:22 <lummie> It better do.  I'll personally come over and ring the doorbell until they give the results.. might even shout throught the letter box as weell
May 04 20:48:24 <lummie> well
May 04 20:48:41 <ligi> hehe
May 04 20:48:48 <lummie> The suspense is killing me...
May 04 20:49:09 <lummie> I'm too old for this kind a stress...
May 04 20:49:20 <ligi> what have u submitted?
May 04 20:50:42 <lummie> Nothing clever, just a podcast downloader, only found out about android 3 weeks ago, so I was quite chuffed achieved that in the time....
May 04 20:51:06 <ligi> ,-)
May 04 20:52:02 <lummie> Did you submit anything ?
May 04 20:52:45 <ligi> http://www.mikrokopter.de/ucwiki/en/DUBwise
May 04 20:56:08 <lummie> cool, is that using wifi or bluetooth for communicating with it ?
May 04 20:56:27 <ligi> bluetooth
May 04 20:56:45 <ligi> tunnled over tcp
May 04 20:56:53 <lummie> smart....
May 04 20:57:33 <ligi> ( cuz bt is broken in Android sdk
May 04 20:57:36 <ligi> )
May 04 20:57:41 <lummie> Was it something you were working on for javaME anyway and just adapted for android UI ?
May 04 20:57:56 <ligi> right
May 04 20:58:37 <lummie> hmm... how am I gonna compete with flying ufo's ....... :(
May 04 20:59:10 <lummie> Does it process seti units in the background s well ?
May 04 20:59:24 <ligi> no
May 04 20:59:26 <ligi> ;-)
May 04 20:59:31 <lummie> :)
May 04 20:59:42 <ligi> but cool idea
May 04 20:59:43 <ligi> ^^
May 04 21:00:21 <lummie> ideas, i'm full of them it's converting them to reality that I never have time for....
May 04 21:00:38 <ligi> i know that problem
May 04 21:01:09 <ligi> had 20h for the adc subm.
May 04 21:01:51 <lummie> lol... yeah I was coding till 3am, not sure when the deadline would close due to time zones etc.
May 04 21:02:15 <ligi> me 2
May 04 21:02:41 <lummie> could hardly type by the end of it... seeing code that wasn't there......
May 04 21:02:49 <ligi> on anddev was a clock but it broke before deadline
May 04 21:06:30 <MartinGer> hi
May 04 21:07:01 <MartinGer> somebody here willing to help me with a real noob question?
May 04 21:11:47 <lummie> whats the q MartinGer
May 04 21:12:12 <MartinGer> i've created a android project with eclipse
May 04 21:12:15 <lummie> I'll try an help, quite new myself
May 04 21:12:18 <lummie> ok
May 04 21:12:27 <MartinGer> my first activity is working fine
May 04 21:12:46 <MartinGer> now i wanted to add a second activity to the same package
May 04 21:13:05 <MartinGer> but i'm unable to start this activity with the emulator
May 04 21:13:27 <MartinGer> do i have to create a new android project for every activity?
May 04 21:13:34 <lummie> If you add it through the manifest editor...
May 04 21:13:46 <mickrobk> MartinGer: you have to add another permission, as lummie said
May 04 21:13:50 <lummie> edit your app manifest and use the add activity buttin
May 04 21:13:56 <lummie> button
May 04 21:14:21 <lummie> then where it says somethign like classname, you can click on the label to start the add new class wizard
May 04 21:14:50 <MartinGer> ah ok
May 04 21:15:06 <MartinGer> i just added it with the eclipse new-> class
May 04 21:15:13 <lummie> So basically, add to manifest first then create class with the right name that it represents.
May 04 21:15:13 <MartinGer> thank you
May 04 21:15:28 <lummie> wah hey I helped someone.... :)
May 04 21:25:30 <lummie> So does anyone else think there should be a machanism for publishing extra data that can be used when calling an intent, e.g. by adding a definition to the xml in the intent filter....
May 04 21:27:28 <romainguy__> lummie: you can add extra data to an intent...
May 04 21:27:48 <romainguy__> unless you mean you would like to specify in XML what data can be used
May 04 21:28:02 <lummie> yeah, what am saying is I can create an activity that someone else can use by creating an itnent
May 04 21:28:25 <lummie> but they don't know what extra data to stick in for the  call unless I publish docs or something
May 04 21:29:45 <lummie> If when you defined an intent you could say it can have the following data sent with it, soem optional some required
May 04 21:29:59 <romainguy__> yeah, that'd be cool
May 04 21:30:20 <lummie> then it would be slef documenting and encourage people re-using others activities
May 04 21:31:32 <romainguy__> self-documenting if you had access to the androidmanifest
May 04 21:31:40 <romainguy__> in the end, you really want real documentation anyway
May 04 21:32:21 <lummie> you can inspect the intents in an application programmatically,
May 04 21:32:40 <lummie> yeah I suppose
May 04 22:09:11 <Dougie187> happy sunday everyone
May 04 22:31:35 <jerkface03> happy sunday friend
May 04 22:32:01 <edcba> it's monday...
May 04 22:32:14 <jerkface03> don't call me friend, guy. don't call me guy, buddy. don't call me buddy, friend.
May 04 22:45:54 <lummie> can anyone help me with some an intent question ?
May 04 22:46:00 <dueynz> maybe
May 04 22:46:02 <dueynz> ask it
May 04 22:48:17 <lummie> I have a file browser that I am writing, that can receive a x.x.Browse intent that i have created, I can create an intent and get the activity displayed.  I can pass and receive dat via the extras but If I try to set the data property on the intent to a uri to pass in suddenly my activity can't handle it and an error is raised
May 04 22:48:29 <lummie> hope that makes sense
May 04 22:50:14 <lummie> I'm trying to launch my filebrowser, BROWSE intent with the dat set to a file:// url of the folder/ file to select at startup.  I can passs that as an extra, but was hoping to use the data.
May 04 22:50:43 <mickrobk> lummie: I'm not sure this answers ur question, but I know I've had problems passing anything in an Intent's extras other than a string - parcelables between processes also for sure don't work
May 04 22:52:23 <lummie> I can pass the extras, it's setting the setData to file:///System for example causes android to pop up a No activity found to handle intent error
May 04 22:53:29 <mickrobk> it finds the intentreciever fine if u don't do set data?
May 04 22:55:15 <lummie> yup
May 04 22:55:44 <mickrobk> i think thats the same problem i was having
May 04 22:55:48 <lummie> soon as I set the data, with the category and action not changed, it throws an error
May 04 22:56:05 <mickrobk> i ended up just putting everything into a string
May 04 22:56:20 <lummie> and passing as an extra.....?
May 04 22:56:24 <mickrobk> yea
May 04 22:56:38 <lummie> that's what I had concluded
May 04 22:56:45 <lummie> oh well...
May 04 23:29:19 <poffy> Tomorrow
May 04 23:29:21 <poffy> Tomorrow
May 04 23:29:23 <poffy> I love you
May 04 23:29:25 <poffy> Tomorrow
May 04 23:29:29 <poffy> You're only
May 04 23:29:31 <poffy> a day
May 04 23:29:35 <poffy> a awaaaaaaayyyyyyyy
May 04 23:30:01 <jerkface03> romainguy said it'll be out the week of
May 04 23:30:03 <jerkface03> not the day of
May 04 23:30:21 <poffy> ok.
May 04 23:30:34 <poffy> Thanks for ruining my fun. :(
May 04 23:30:58 <Dougie187> lol
May 04 23:31:05 <Dougie187> he isnt called jerkface for nothing
May 04 23:31:09 <jerkface03> my pleasure
May 04 23:31:14 <poffy> heh
May 05 01:13:44 <jjt009> ayo to all
May 05 01:13:51 <jjt009> this is tommy speaking
May 05 01:14:09 <jjt009> ***jjt0888 cries
May 05 01:25:01 <rhett> hola android!
May 05 01:25:18 <rhett> what's the over/under on the top 50 being announced tomorrow?
May 05 01:26:31 <dmoffett> I would say that 90% of the prediction are 10% correct most of the time.
May 05 01:33:53 <dueynz> such wise words
May 05 01:41:55 <dmoffett> wise == smart ass?
May 05 02:18:28 <dueynz> dmoffett: no
May 05 02:18:46 <dueynz> wise == wise
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