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May 17 03:43:53 <rhett> ok, so I fired up the old hackintosh just because of you lamerz
May 17 03:44:01 <rhett> running colloquy...
May 17 03:44:08 <rhett> don't tell steve jobas
May 17 03:44:11 <Dougie187> lol
May 17 03:44:34 <rhett> i think i fixed most of the annoying bugs.  who knows how long this thing will last, or what bugs are left
May 17 03:44:38 <rhett> man i'm cheap
May 17 03:45:07 <rhett> it's kind of making me sad to not be using linux
May 17 03:45:22 <Dougie187> thats how i feel to be on windows.
May 17 03:45:27 <Dougie187> its like putting me into depression
May 17 03:45:39 <jasta> do you guys have any comments on the video i posted above?
May 17 03:45:45 <Dougie187> I liked it
May 17 03:45:51 <Dougie187> but i think you know that already
May 17 03:45:57 <f00f-> let me look
May 17 03:46:05 <rhett> jasta: link please
May 17 03:46:10 <Dougie187> it ended up being pretty short though
May 17 03:46:18 <Dougie187> but thats ok
May 17 03:46:44 <jasta> http://vimeo.com/1024706
May 17 03:47:17 <f00f-> well
May 17 03:47:35 <f00f-> #1 what is Five?
May 17 03:47:39 <Dougie187> haha
May 17 03:47:40 <Dougie187> his app
May 17 03:47:45 <f00f-> the first 10 seconds doesn't tell me that
May 17 03:47:57 <Dougie187> i dont think he tells you that at all
May 17 03:47:57 <jasta> yeah, i am going to add a little introductory blurb
May 17 03:48:08 <jasta> several other people pointed that out :)
May 17 03:48:14 <f00f-> also, you should talk while it's syncing
May 17 03:48:49 <f00f-> hahahahah
May 17 03:48:52 <f00f-> you pick minus the bear
May 17 03:49:10 <f00f-> "let's pick something good" ... you dont even care about choosing the other tracks
May 17 03:49:11 <rhett> ok, so for android development: textmate or vim?
May 17 03:49:19 <f00f-> vim, dont even question it rhett
May 17 03:49:25 <Dougie187> totally
May 17 03:49:28 <Dougie187> vim all the way
May 17 03:49:38 <rhett> yeah, i'm not really loving textmate
May 17 03:49:39 <f00f-> well, i use eclipes, so i'm a hypocrite
May 17 03:49:42 <f00f-> is textmate like gedit?
May 17 03:50:38 <Dougie187> http://macromates.com/
May 17 03:50:50 <f00f-> jasta: top artists, should have multiple artists
May 17 03:50:56 <f00f-> at least show them, for purposes of the video/demo
May 17 03:50:57 <f00f-> imho
May 17 03:51:34 <f00f-> also, maybe bring back the emulator chrome? i dont know
May 17 03:51:39 <f00f-> depends on the target audience
May 17 03:51:44 <f00f-> but overall it's agood overview
May 17 03:51:47 <Dougie187> I think you could also explain what the windows were.
May 17 03:51:50 <f00f-> just needs a quick 10 second intro ;)
May 17 03:52:08 <f00f-> yeah i dont like the bottom window on the left
May 17 03:52:15 <rhett> jasta, the demo is really boring
May 17 03:52:18 <Dougie187> ha
May 17 03:52:20 <f00f-> like wtf is it? it's distracting cause a techie like me wants to know what is there
May 17 03:52:23 <f00f-> path , etc.
May 17 03:52:25 <Dougie187> are demos supposed to be fun?
May 17 03:52:31 <rhett> i think it should show someone using it, not setting it up, if you want it to be more exciting
May 17 03:52:32 <Dougie187> me too f00f-
May 17 03:52:38 <f00f-> aight food
May 17 03:52:43 <Dougie187> rhett he could make it a rave. or something
May 17 03:53:11 <rhett> it should be like the commercials for ipods
May 17 03:53:15 <jasta> rhett: well, honestly at this point i'm trying to attract developers since there are no users to attract.
May 17 03:53:16 <rhett> some guy dancing on the subway
May 17 03:53:42 <dueynz> great stuff jasta
May 17 03:53:44 <jasta> and i don't think developers would particularly like me tucking away all the details of how it works
May 17 03:53:46 <Dougie187> your logo should be like someone two hands giving a high five or something
May 17 03:54:41 <jasta> that would be kind of lame :)
May 17 03:55:01 <Dougie187> lol
May 17 03:55:16 <jasta> the name of the system comes from the notion that smartphones should synchronize contacts, calendars, tasks, and e-mail.  The fifth thing, IMO, should be media.
May 17 03:55:43 <jasta> dueynz: thanks
May 17 03:56:12 <Dougie187> maybe you could make it a dark smartphone, with the keypad number 5 glowing or standing out in some way
May 17 03:56:19 <dueynz> very nicely done, and the voice was not bad at all :P
May 17 03:56:24 <Dougie187> like all black with an outline.
May 17 04:25:29 <muthu> Linux RULES!
May 17 04:26:00 <jerkface03> wtf muthu
May 17 04:26:09 <muthu> hehe
May 17 04:26:10 <jerkface03> take your commie linux propaganda somewhere else
May 17 04:26:12 <muthu> check the topic
May 17 04:26:17 <muthu> jerkface03: don't be a jerk
May 17 04:26:18 <jerkface03> oh
May 17 04:26:18 <jerkface03> lol
May 17 04:26:30 <muthu> lol
May 17 04:26:43 <jerkface03> i'm all about windows
May 17 04:26:57 <muthu> i know
May 17 04:27:01 <muthu> you already proved that ;)
May 17 04:27:07 <jerkface03> lol
May 17 04:27:18 <muthu> haha
May 17 04:27:29 <jerkface03> you know who uses linux?
May 17 04:27:34 <muthu> tell me
May 17 04:27:44 <jerkface03> the leader of alqueda in iraq had it on his laptop when he was caught
May 17 04:27:47 <jerkface03> do you support alqueda?!
May 17 04:27:50 <jerkface03> lol
May 17 04:28:01 <muthu> i'm all for peace
May 17 04:28:10 <muthu> i dont know what alqueda is
May 17 04:28:35 <jerkface03> you don't know what alqueda is? have you been living under a rock for the past 7 years?
May 17 04:35:25 <living_sword_> muthu, Al- Qaeda
May 17 04:35:50 <muthu> living_sword_: ha, Al Qaeda
May 17 04:56:59 <f00f-> dont say you support freedom
May 17 04:57:04 <f00f-> cause if you do, then you support al qaeda
May 17 04:57:46 <f00f-> freedom to terrorize!
May 17 05:05:15 <zmedico> War is peace, Freedom is slavery, Ignorance is strength.
May 17 05:18:14 <f00f-> touche, mon ami, touche
May 17 05:18:25 <f00f-> c'est la meilleure vie
May 17 06:02:16 <rhett> hey muthu, you have a cooking app?
May 17 06:02:20 <rhett> or the wiki lyrics?
May 17 06:41:20 <duey> rhett, muthu did cooking
May 17 08:40:50 <duey> that handycalc app got a shit score
May 17 08:40:51 <duey> wtf?
May 17 08:43:47 <jerkface03> how shitty was the score?
May 17 08:44:04 <duey> well my score was better ...
May 17 08:44:10 <romainguy__> duey: an average cell phone user would probably think the same :)
May 17 08:44:12 <jerkface03> just tell me
May 17 08:44:16 <romainguy__> I mean, it looks like a great app
May 17 08:44:22 <jerkface03> cause i was in the bottom 25% for everything...
May 17 08:44:24 <jerkface03> EVERYTHING...
May 17 08:44:25 <romainguy__> but how many people really need it? :)
May 17 08:44:32 <duey> any student?
May 17 08:44:54 <duey> i sure dont need 90% of the apps that won
May 17 08:45:07 <duey> calculators are simple sure
May 17 08:45:26 <romainguy__> i'm not saying it's simple
May 17 08:45:30 <romainguy__> this one in particular is not
May 17 08:45:33 <romainguy__> but
May 17 08:45:51 <romainguy__> what percentage of cellphone users need to solve complex equations? :))
May 17 08:45:56 <duey> i guess i always find myself looking for a calculator
May 17 08:46:02 <romainguy__> yeah me too
May 17 08:46:10 <romainguy__> but I rarely need one for complex stuff
May 17 08:46:11 <duey> and the one on my phone is crap
May 17 08:46:17 <duey> oh i wouldn't use the complex stuff
May 17 08:46:23 <duey> but the simple stuff was done well
May 17 09:49:31 <davidw> romainguy, how many people really need 10 location based social networking things?;-)
May 17 09:51:18 <romainguy__> davidw: what's the problem with having several?
May 17 09:51:24 <romainguy__> choice is good
May 17 11:39:58 <Orph> is this the channel for android OS?
May 17 11:40:41 <davidw> the android phone platform, yeah
May 17 11:41:12 <Orph> Im very much looking forward to it.
May 17 11:41:56 <Orph> are android phones going to be usable on verizon?
May 17 11:42:07 <Orph> they joined the open handset alliance didnt they, or at least said they were going to.
May 17 11:44:04 <Orph> interesting.. dell/alienware mobile phone.
May 17 11:44:07 <Orph> using android
May 17 15:29:08 <zhobbs> wow...ADC phase II participants get special SDK releases
May 17 15:36:38 <davidw> hrmph
May 17 16:41:08 <trigatch4> zhobbs: are you kidding?
May 17 17:56:38 <trigatch4> anyone around?
May 17 17:57:05 <mazzen> yes
May 17 17:58:30 <trigatch4> whats the deal with the SDK release? Hobbs mentioned something about phase II participants getting a special SDK release?
May 17 17:58:57 <mazzen> sry, don't know about it
May 17 18:06:09 <mazzen> does anyone knows if this http://code.google.com/p/android-on-n8xx/wiki/Home really works? when i try to compile the kernel i get ":1: *** missing separator. Stops"
May 17 18:28:13 <mattelacchiato> nice topic =)
May 17 18:33:21 <michaelnovakjr> linux won
May 17 18:34:59 <mattelacchiato> of course!
May 17 22:39:34 <trigatch4> everyone must be out enjoying the weekend... while i'm stuck here doing work
May 17 22:41:55 <jerkface03> i'm working too
May 18 01:04:00 <jasta> yawn
May 18 01:07:46 <duey> very tired indeed
May 18 01:07:55 <duey> 1pm and only just having my first coffee
May 18 02:12:24 <Dougie187> you always yawn jasta
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