**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jun 08 02:59:57 2008 Jun 08 22:59:09 back from a lame family weekend Jun 08 23:17:59 Good Evening Jun 08 23:19:34 yo Jun 08 23:21:46 Hows it going romainguy? Jun 08 23:22:00 doing great, how about you? Jun 08 23:22:09 pretty good. you happy to be back from france? Jun 08 23:22:30 yes and no :)) Jun 08 23:22:34 heh Jun 08 23:28:24 Dougie187: but I'm happy that I'm working on my photos rather than Android right now :)) Jun 08 23:29:41 http://www.flickr.com/photos/romainguy/2562104207/in/set-72157601671626720/ and http://www.flickr.com/photos/romainguy/2562932424/in/set-72157601671626720/ Jun 08 23:33:19 nice Jun 08 23:34:07 is that from france? Jun 08 23:34:28 no, it's San Francisco's zoo Jun 08 23:35:11 those are some cool pictures Jun 08 23:35:31 thanks Jun 08 23:36:02 what kinda camera do you have? Jun 08 23:37:13 I have a Canon EOS 30D Jun 08 23:44:51 its nice Jun 09 01:01:34 I want to buy two cell phones (smartphones/PDA) - is any of the existing phones going to run on Android Jun 09 01:02:36 Hello - is anybody out there ? Jun 09 01:06:10 htc vogue or something Jun 09 01:07:10 thanks - let me look on the htc vogue (I know they will have Dream - but when I d o not know) Jun 09 01:07:57 If I get un unlocked phone it should not matter whether I run Android or Windows - I am thinking to join ATT Jun 09 01:22:36 no existing phones will officially run android. Jun 09 01:23:31 the htc vogue is merely similar internally to the first handset that the team seems to be targetting. Jun 09 01:23:39 jasta: so when any of the phone & android will be available Jun 09 01:23:49 and so, the porting effort is not that difficult. though major work has been done already to just make it run. Jun 09 01:24:07 acu: Android will launc at the end of this year, according to the OHA. Jun 09 01:24:58 jasta: is any other open source option for existing pda/smartphone ? Jun 09 01:26:30 acu: not really, your question is far too vague to answer correctly. Jun 09 01:26:51 obviously I have seen openmoko but is also not available Jun 09 01:27:03 openmoko is available. Jun 09 01:28:19 nothing with the commercial weight that Android has is available, though. that is certainly the big difference here. Jun 09 01:28:50 just, be patient. don't evaluate the platform as it stands now. for all you know, it will end up being a terrible phone. Jun 09 01:29:09 but is in very crude stage - I am planning to built a turn key solution for health care and I wanted to do it all on open source - but I would like to get things which are functional Jun 09 01:29:58 acu: you'll have to wait if you plan on using android for commercial Jun 09 01:30:01 ok, then Android obviously will not help you if you must build this system now. Jun 09 01:30:07 acu: currently not ready Jun 09 01:30:51 Also, I am even thinking which carrier will be the best - ATT has best infrastructure and GSM but they are not going to implement Android - and Sprint has the other system which is not used in Europe Jun 09 01:32:04 acu: just gotta wait Jun 09 01:32:41 zhobbs and jasta - thanks a bunch - bottom line is that nothing will be ready before the next mid year Jun 09 01:33:15 acu: phones will be out later this yea Jun 09 01:33:16 year Jun 09 01:34:12 that is good to hear so I will not spend money in iPhone - a Centro will do it :) Jun 09 01:34:17 Thanks again ! Jun 09 01:34:44 :) Jun 09 01:36:34 i'm gonna write a terminal app tonight and try to use some of the recent activity in the android-msm git branch to get USB and SD card support working on the vogue Jun 09 01:36:47 with that, it would be possible to get my app up and running pretty easily i think Jun 09 01:36:48 nice Jun 09 01:37:25 i don't think the audio subsystem works quite right, but i don't care about that as much. Jun 09 01:37:43 not as interested in actually using the app as i am intesting it on real hardware Jun 09 01:57:10 3g iPhone looks like it might just be $199 Jun 09 01:57:25 http://www.usatoday.com/tech/wireless/phones/2008-06-08-apple-iphone_N.htm Jun 09 01:58:12 pretty good deal if you ask me Jun 09 01:58:39 just needs gps and 32 GB storage **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jun 09 02:59:56 2008