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Jun 21 03:02:55 <f00f-> i take it you mean Round 2 of ADC I
Jun 21 03:03:09 <f00f-> if so, yes quite a few of us are here
Jun 21 03:29:26 <coderjjt009> yes that's right
Jun 21 03:29:40 <coderjjt009> f00f: so when're the second round submissions due
Jun 21 03:31:09 <f00f-> coderjjt009: july 28th
Jun 21 03:41:36 <gambler> when i start my app (w/service) I get an error 'Unable to start activity - ComponentInfo{org.tricorder/org.tricorder.AIDLServiceClient}: java.lang.NullPointerException
Jun 21 03:42:01 <gambler> Is the problem due to that extra org.tricorder?
Jun 21 03:42:16 <gambler> if so where do I take it out? ive tried removing it from the android manifest
Jun 21 03:43:28 <jasta> yawn
Jun 21 03:43:36 <jasta> gambler: look at adb logcat for a call stack.
Jun 21 03:43:57 <jasta> if you still don't know what's wrong, use a debugger.
Jun 21 03:45:27 <gambler> jasta...running logcat gets me an 'Activity idle timeout for HistoryRecord
Jun 21 03:46:18 <gambler> it says roughly: loading code package, creating service, receveid file descriptor, activity idle timeout...
Jun 21 03:46:57 <jasta> read more.  it has more information.
Jun 21 03:47:54 <gambler> jasta, well it says: org.tricorder/org.tricorder.AIDLServiceClient  there is that extra org.tricorder again
Jun 21 03:49:54 <gambler> http://pastebin.ca/1052278
Jun 21 03:50:13 <f00f-> i read that as AIDSServlet
Jun 21 03:52:03 <gambler> just trying to get a working service going so I can code a gpg daemon for android
Jun 21 03:52:32 <gambler> im using the 'My life with android :)' guys example code
Jun 21 03:54:18 <f00f-> you should read the book "How My Life went Downhill after I Started Developing on Android"
Jun 21 03:55:01 <gambler> f00f-, are you saying its a headache to develop on this platform? im a total newbie
Jun 21 03:55:13 <gambler> with android
Jun 21 03:55:30 <f00f-> you shouldbe okay
Jun 21 03:55:35 <f00f-> just do things the android way
Jun 21 03:55:39 <f00f-> dont reinvent the android wheel
Jun 21 03:55:41 <f00f-> etc.
Jun 21 03:55:43 <f00f-> you should be fine
Jun 21 03:56:03 <gambler> i found something ...this might work
Jun 21 03:57:26 <gambler> f00f-, some more API samples would be nice
Jun 21 03:57:30 <gambler> u knwo what i mean
Jun 21 04:00:22 <gambler> ok something hapaned...still not working but progress
Jun 21 04:00:32 * gambler goes to buy curtains
Jun 21 04:01:26 <f00f-> hahaha
Jun 21 04:01:44 <f00f-> lots of things are lacking at this tiime
Jun 21 04:14:18 <romainguy_> f00f-: like what?
Jun 21 04:18:47 <mickrobk> romainguy: xmpp!
Jun 21 04:19:16 <mickrobk> :)\
Jun 21 04:19:35 <muthu> what's happening with gtalk?
Jun 21 05:00:46 <f00f-> heh
Jun 21 05:00:47 <f00f-> romain
Jun 21 05:00:50 <f00f-> i think you know what i mean
Jun 21 05:00:54 <f00f-> it's far from prod ready
Jun 21 05:01:07 <romainguy> that doesn't tell me what you find lacking
Jun 21 05:01:51 <f00f-> let's sum it up: adequate detailed documentation :)
Jun 21 05:02:12 <romainguy> you guys are always whining :)
Jun 21 05:02:30 <f00f-> if we had axx to the source of everything, maybe we wouldn't :)
Jun 21 05:05:11 <romainguy> we give you guys software, docs, help and money, just be patient :))
Jun 21 05:05:54 <f00f-> haha, i appreciate it
Jun 21 05:06:02 <f00f-> really, it's a blessing for us
Jun 21 05:06:05 <f00f-> opportunity really
Jun 21 05:06:14 <romainguy> but yeah, I know what you mean
Jun 21 05:06:20 <f00f-> but the initial promise of it.... etc.
Jun 21 05:06:27 <f00f-> we all know the opinions
Jun 21 05:06:28 <romainguy> what about it?
Jun 21 05:06:33 <f00f-> repeated many times in here
Jun 21 05:06:36 <romainguy> we said it's gonna be open source, it's gonna be open source
Jun 21 05:06:37 <f00f-> big promise, small/slow results
Jun 21 05:06:40 <f00f-> but i have faith
Jun 21 05:06:45 <f00f-> it's only natural to be impatient :)
Jun 21 05:06:54 <mickrobk> romainguy: if all we did was tell u how great it was so far, ud get all complacent... can't have that :)
Jun 21 05:07:03 <romainguy> yeah right :)
Jun 21 05:07:26 <romainguy> my week end is already screwed up by Android
Jun 21 05:07:27 <romainguy> :(
Jun 21 05:07:48 <romainguy> I should change a few APIs, just to avenge myself :))
Jun 21 05:07:53 <muthu> hehe
Jun 21 05:08:08 <f00f-> hahaha
Jun 21 05:08:14 <f00f-> sup muthu
Jun 21 05:08:16 <muthu> hope you are working on android.misc.*
Jun 21 05:08:31 <romainguy> at least I'm finally giving RelativeLayout some love
Jun 21 05:08:33 <muthu> hey f00f-
Jun 21 05:09:04 <muthu> romainguy_: do a flowlayout :)
Jun 21 05:09:11 <romainguy> muthu: no way
Jun 21 05:09:43 <muthu> lol
Jun 21 05:09:54 <romainguy> flowlayout is the worst layout ever if you want to create nice UIs
Jun 21 05:10:00 <romainguy> time for a reboot now
Jun 21 05:10:25 <f00f-> man i dont know why i am so tired
Jun 21 05:10:33 <f00f-> i am drinking this disgusting beer called budweiser select
Jun 21 05:10:42 <muthu> hmm.. how many?
Jun 21 05:10:51 <f00f-> i can barely finish the first one
Jun 21 05:10:56 <f00f-> it's horrible
Jun 21 05:11:01 <romainguy_> stupid USB
Jun 21 05:11:06 <muthu> you need to change the beer
Jun 21 05:11:10 <romainguy_> bud /o\
Jun 21 05:11:29 <romainguy_> I'm always saddened when I see restaurants offer Stella Artois and Heineken as good beers here
Jun 21 05:11:40 <muthu> romainguy_: what you like?
Jun 21 05:11:56 <f00f-> ugh, that is a deadly sin to call them good
Jun 21 05:12:25 <muthu> heard stella is worst in terms of calories too
Jun 21 05:12:27 <romainguy_> muthu: a bunch of beers I don't even remember, but as far as beers I can find in supermakets are concerned, I'd say Chimay, Leffe and Kwak
Jun 21 05:12:50 <romainguy_> I actually like the Samuel Adams here
Jun 21 05:12:59 <romainguy_> I was happy to find it, since it's available in most places
Jun 21 05:13:01 <muthu> chimay is good.. a little bit on the sweeter side though
Jun 21 05:14:58 <romainguy> back
Jun 21 05:16:22 <f00f-> too many romains
Jun 21 05:16:25 <f00f-> do you like romain lettuce?
Jun 21 05:16:50 * romainguy__ slaps f00f- 
Jun 21 05:17:34 <romainguy__> dammit I hate USB
Jun 21 05:18:33 <f00f-> heh :(((
Jun 21 05:18:50 <f00f-> power surge on the usb bus?
Jun 21 05:18:56 <romainguy__> no
Jun 21 05:19:02 <romainguy__> just USB not working
Jun 21 05:19:05 <romainguy__> I have to reboot when this happens
Jun 21 06:05:27 <gambler> back from my curtain buying. I learned concealed tab top curtains are the best curtains. make a note.
Jun 21 06:06:03 <gambler> regarding your beer discussion. all beer stinks...real men drink malibu and coke
Jun 21 06:06:13 <gambler> mmmm
Jun 21 06:08:49 <gambler> got my code working as soon as I got home. whee
Jun 21 22:32:16 <neurosys0> is this channel for android platform discussion?
Jun 21 22:32:32 <duey> yes
Jun 21 22:32:36 <neurosys0> ok :)
Jun 21 23:30:55 <dfas> neurosys0: so start discussing then :)
Jun 21 23:32:02 <neurosys0> heh im new to the framework..
Jun 21 23:32:15 <neurosys0> just thought id pop in and check out the discussion
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