**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 28 02:59:57 2008
Jun 28 12:23:58 <plusminus_> gday
Jun 28 16:56:33 <Razec> hi all
Jun 28 16:56:47 <Razec> jasta hi
Jun 28 19:21:31 <Dougie187> So.. who else is crapping their pants for diablo 3?
Jun 28 19:21:31 <Dougie187> lol
Jun 28 19:22:04 <romainguy> not me
Jun 28 19:22:29 <Dougie187> well thats disappointing...
Jun 28 19:22:35 <anno^da> Defintely even more because it will be available for OSX
Jun 28 19:22:38 <anno^da> :)
Jun 28 19:22:52 <Dougie187> well blizzard games are always working for macs.
Jun 28 19:22:57 <Dougie187> even SC works on macs.
Jun 28 19:23:07 <anno^da> Yeah I know
Jun 28 19:23:15 <Dougie187> im hoping it will work on linux.
Jun 28 19:24:03 <anno^da> It will be easier to get it running on Linux even  beacuse it is working on OSX
Jun 28 19:24:33 <Dougie187> hopefully.
Jun 28 19:24:36 <anno^da> WoW and WC3 are running well under Linux
Jun 28 19:24:42 <Dougie187> yeah but only in wine.
Jun 28 19:24:45 <anno^da> so why not D3 and SC
Jun 28 19:24:47 <Dougie187> they dont have native things.
Jun 28 19:24:50 <anno^da> Yeah I know
Jun 28 19:24:52 <Dougie187> SC works in wine too
Jun 28 19:25:01 <Dougie187> but none of that is thanks to blizzard
Jun 28 19:25:03 <Dougie187> im talking native
Jun 28 19:25:13 <anno^da> But it is easier to get it running with Wine
Jun 28 19:25:51 <Dougie187> i dont see how.
Jun 28 19:32:29 <anno^da> because it will be running with OpenGL as well and so it is easier to get it working with wine for the developer team
Jun 28 19:32:47 <anno^da> much easier than the games that only run with directX
Jun 28 19:39:44 <Dougie187> im just hoping that they go and make the game run natively in linux
Jun 28 19:40:21 <anno^da> from my point of view the market is not big enought at the moment
Jun 28 19:40:30 <anno^da> but in the future they will be forced to
Jun 28 19:40:42 <anno^da> ( I hope so :) )
Jun 28 19:40:47 <romainguy> anno^da: keep hoping :)
Jun 28 19:41:10 <anno^da> Yeah I'm using OSX and Ubuntu and I hope they will be force in the future
Jun 28 19:41:16 <anno^da> forced
Jun 28 19:41:20 <Dougie187> as do i
Jun 28 19:43:00 <anno^da> and I hope Amarok will be available for OSX natively :D
Jun 28 19:44:54 <anno^da> because iTunes is a mess
Jun 28 19:45:04 <romainguy> iTunes is great
Jun 28 19:45:59 <anno^da> without the possibility to monitor folders
Jun 28 19:46:07 <anno^da> without FLAC / OGG support
Jun 28 19:46:15 <anno^da> without NAS support
Jun 28 19:46:15 <romainguy> because most users don't give a shit about this :)
Jun 28 19:46:22 <Dougie187> "What engine is Diablo III running on? What graphical enhancements are included?
Jun 28 19:46:22 <Dougie187> 				
Jun 28 19:46:22 <Dougie187> Diablo III runs on a custom 3D game engine for rendering full-3D characters and environments. The 3D game engine not only simulates advanced animation sequences and sound effects, but also uses a custom physics engine that allows for realistic object dynamics and cloth simulation."
Jun 28 19:46:31 <anno^da> Yeah most mass market users
Jun 28 19:46:35 <anno^da> :)
Jun 28 19:46:39 <romainguy> anno^da: I'm happily one of them
Jun 28 19:46:49 <anno^da> But if you get used to play any format
Jun 28 19:46:56 <anno^da> you always want that feature
Jun 28 19:47:15 <romainguy> I would if I had songs that were not MP3 or AAC :)
Jun 28 19:47:19 <anno^da> and not be restricted by Apples damn politics :)
Jun 28 19:47:58 <anno^da> Thats why I dont use Quicktime it is restrictive
Jun 28 19:48:10 <anno^da> selling a movie player without free fullscreen support
Jun 28 19:48:15 <anno^da> is something to laugh about :)
Jun 28 19:48:26 <romainguy> sure, that is stupid
Jun 28 19:49:09 <anno^da> Yeah but I dont understand why, they dont live from the money the get from the quicktime licencing :)
Jun 28 19:49:25 <anno^da> That are politics I dont understand
Jun 28 19:49:34 <anno^da> and no Linux user ever will understand :D
Jun 28 19:51:15 <anno^da> ease of use means dropping every file in and it gets played and thats ease of use is one of the goals Apple is looking for
Jun 28 19:51:49 <romainguy> ease of use in iTunes means: put your CD and import it in the library or buy on the iTunes store
Jun 28 19:52:03 <romainguy> now, if you always get your music through other means...
Jun 28 19:52:15 <anno^da> romainguy: but thats not the reality
Jun 28 19:52:20 <romainguy> it is in my case
Jun 28 19:52:29 <anno^da> For sure you have CDs and iTunes
Jun 28 19:53:13 <anno^da> but you also have the internet and thousands songs that are under the Creative Commons licence
Jun 28 19:53:20 <anno^da> thousands of
Jun 28 19:54:26 <anno^da> and you have different music stores
Jun 28 19:54:34 <anno^da> with no DRM, no watermarking
Jun 28 19:54:44 <romainguy> you can buy un-DRMed music on iTunes
Jun 28 19:54:50 <anno^da> Amazon does an amazing job in this case :)
Jun 28 19:54:54 <anno^da> yeah iTunes Plus
Jun 28 19:55:02 <anno^da> with watermarking in the files
Jun 28 19:55:08 <romainguy> so?
Jun 28 19:55:28 <anno^da> And it makes 10%
Jun 28 19:55:31 <anno^da> of alle the files
Jun 28 19:55:33 <anno^da> all
Jun 28 19:55:48 <anno^da> But it is getting better
Jun 29 00:44:04 <NSNull> hello
Jun 29 00:44:21 <NSNull> just a question. Is planned an UI designer for Android?
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