**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Aug 31 02:59:56 2008 Aug 31 03:02:48 chomchom thank you dude! Aug 31 03:02:54 whatever you are... Aug 31 03:03:39 Yeah I'm reading Essentials, and this books is completely out of date!! Aug 31 03:04:56 Intent.NEW_TASK_LAUNCH for what has been replaced ? Aug 31 03:05:07 I'm alone here for a while.. :S Aug 31 03:09:03 hello, ANDROIDS!!!! Aug 31 03:13:03 nah, I'm here Aug 31 03:13:30 working on my own toy android app Aug 31 03:15:48 pjz, HELLO!! Aug 31 03:15:55 pjz, ARE YOU STILL HERE ? Aug 31 03:24:49 pjz, hello ? Aug 31 03:34:49 good night ;-) Aug 31 10:18:54 What is the recommended icon size for the app icon? And what is the recommended size for the status bar icon ? Aug 31 10:35:32 hey chomchom Aug 31 10:35:32 gm Aug 31 11:06:17 good morning Aug 31 11:22:06 Samsung i900 Omnia < i want something like that for android Aug 31 11:26:15 i actually like what the HTC Dream is looking to be so far Aug 31 11:27:10 that samsung is a 100% iphone clone :) Aug 31 11:48:20 Is it right that I have to add the options menu in each activity. So I'm not able to define some option that makes it in every activty in my application Aug 31 12:01:35 Make a heklper and just call upon it every time Aug 31 12:01:40 helper even Aug 31 12:01:41 hi guys have you heard about oficial android app store? Aug 31 12:02:06 sure. Aug 31 12:02:11 its right here http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/android-market-user-driven-content.html Aug 31 12:02:18 indeedy Aug 31 12:04:42 Has anyone got the default gps provider working in the 0.9 release? It is unclear if there is a solution judging from the replies on teh google groups threads Aug 31 12:04:59 I can use a test provider that I have specified Aug 31 12:05:08 but out of the box it dosen't work Aug 31 12:06:00 One guys solution was moving to a different OS which seems a bit overkill :) Aug 31 12:07:07 It is mentioned on the groups that the /etc/.gps mentioned in an exception via the DDMS is not a problem and can be ignored Aug 31 12:07:33 there is no solution so far Aug 31 12:07:42 I tihnk i started the thread youre talking about Aug 31 12:07:48 ah good good Aug 31 12:07:50 thanks Aug 31 12:07:58 at least I know Aug 31 12:08:20 I wasted a lot of time trying to get this running :S Aug 31 12:09:50 is it a distro problem or could it potentially be patched by putting in a replacment gps file? Aug 31 12:10:25 guys I am sorry what have you told about android web application store? Aug 31 12:10:55 no idea chomchom Aug 31 12:11:05 http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2008/08/android-market-user-driven-content.html Aug 31 12:12:11 inZane: if you make any progress with the default gps Aug 31 12:12:18 please could you let me know Aug 31 12:12:22 sure Aug 31 12:12:24 and I'll do the same for you Aug 31 12:12:35 I'm always in here Aug 31 12:12:42 alright Aug 31 12:12:43 me too :-) Aug 31 12:13:17 Its a blinking pain. Aug 31 12:14:30 I wonder why no one from google responds Aug 31 12:14:36 same with the driving directions thread Aug 31 12:14:56 if you are interested we have made a debug activity to supplement the needed behaviour. Contact me via kevin@novoda.com Aug 31 12:15:12 They are all out for the weekend no doubt Aug 31 12:32:55 It's a bit weird that no one would notice that the default GPS didn't work out of the box. Especially when some of the ADC1 winners used the functionality Aug 31 12:33:01 there must be a solution Aug 31 12:33:33 I'm going to email the Location based app winners of the ADC1 and see if they have an answer Aug 31 12:34:21 chomchom: some of them might not have their apps ported to 0.9 yet Aug 31 12:34:48 not likely. They were privy to early SDKs Aug 31 12:35:19 And if they had any sense they would take the hit as soon as possible, and I have no doubt they had sense. Aug 31 12:38:37 Does someone know where the initial userdata image for the emulator is located? Aug 31 12:38:56 In M5 it was in the sdk directory but in 0.9 I cant find it anymore Aug 31 12:40:24 oh got it :/ Aug 31 12:43:34 inZane: gmx and kml files work Aug 31 12:43:44 its just the out the box that doesn not Aug 31 12:43:56 So I guess its not all doom and gloom Aug 31 12:44:55 but gmx and kml files dont have bearing information Aug 31 12:45:29 yes,so you have to use the mock provider technique Aug 31 13:34:32 what kind of motion does MotionEvent.ACTION_CANCEL detect ? Aug 31 13:48:24 can i buy a googe email add with 4 letters? i think google imposes a minimum of 6 letters? Aug 31 14:07:08 Oh I love windows. Can someone help me with some batch scripting. With bash it was easy but windows grr I love batch files. Aug 31 15:02:58 you could install cygwin Aug 31 15:03:25 There is a library to call windows stuff in bash, I used it at work Aug 31 15:04:38 ms Aug 31 15:04:40 oops Aug 31 17:25:19 anybody has some issues with upgrading the DB within a content provider since 0.9? Aug 31 17:25:29 if you try to open it externally from the content provider? Aug 31 17:25:34 chomchom any ideas? Aug 31 17:28:38 Something to do with the read write permissions of the user that creates both the application and the test instrumentation. As they are both created seperately then they are treading on one anothers toes methinks Aug 31 19:29:50 hmm Aug 31 19:29:59 just looked at the G1/Dream pictures... Aug 31 19:30:09 is it just me or does this phone seriously look ugly? Aug 31 19:30:54 hi jasta Aug 31 19:30:56 My first reaction was it looked "retro industrial" Aug 31 19:31:17 It didn't particularly put me off though Aug 31 19:31:40 I don t care, I just want one Aug 31 19:32:15 and who knows when they're going to be available outside the US? Aug 31 19:35:10 tomgibara: i just hope it's not really white only Aug 31 19:35:18 the white plastic makes it look really cheap Aug 31 19:38:23 I think the rumour is that there are going to be 3 colours, but I haven't been paying attention Aug 31 19:41:03 well i'm still going to get one because frankly the platform is the important piece to me Aug 31 19:41:20 but i sure hope google's got some tricks left up their sleeves, because this phone is ugly as sin :) Aug 31 19:41:33 and i fear will be awkward to use Aug 31 19:42:50 I don't share those concerns to the same degree Aug 31 19:43:11 I don't tend to judge hardware by the way it looks (though I know it will be important in the market) Aug 31 19:43:34 And judging from the emulator, the core functionality seems very usable to me Aug 31 19:44:03 naturally I need to reserve judgement until I use a real device in the "real-world" Aug 31 19:58:35 * plusminus_ Sentence of the week: "Our waitress can go from zero to bitch in 4.1 seconds." Aug 31 20:17:00 plusminus_, lol Aug 31 20:57:25 so Aug 31 20:57:36 is anybody out there? Aug 31 20:58:35 * Miek_ emerges from the shadows Aug 31 22:39:44 I don't find the Dream that appealing either. I sure hope some other android phones come out. Aug 31 22:40:42 It might be the only one. A limited run of 2000 and then no more android phones Aug 31 22:40:46 ...ever Aug 31 22:42:10 It could go down in history as the worlds most expensive R&D exercise for a limited edition. Aug 31 22:42:12 chomchom, Why do you say that? ...2000 is a very short production run. Aug 31 22:42:25 It would be up there with the virtual boy Aug 31 22:43:03 Sorry gambler, my sarcasm doesn't carry well across UTF-8 dimensions Aug 31 22:43:25 Not even close to the worlds most expensive R&D exercise. The V-22 Osprey comes to mind. The gearbox design on that alone went into the billions. Aug 31 22:43:29 nah, I believe it will be the first of a great many variations Aug 31 22:43:39 touche Aug 31 23:01:46 what has turned "android:textAlign"-attribute into ? Aug 31 23:23:45 helloo Aug 31 23:24:32 chomchom, hello ! Aug 31 23:25:40 hellloo !! Aug 31 23:33:42 guys ???? Aug 31 23:33:53 boo Aug 31 23:34:27 Miek, yeah! Aug 31 23:50:38 anyone checked wether GeoCoder is now working properly? Sep 01 00:15:10 No but I'm interested to hear how you have got no with it since the reverse geo coding stuff was something that we all wanted Sep 01 00:52:43 romainguy are you around? Sep 01 00:54:02 hmm Sep 01 00:54:02 * Razec hi all Sep 01 00:54:16 * chomchom waves Sep 01 00:54:31 is there a way to force a single View to rotate 90\degr? Sep 01 00:54:41 so instead of making the entire activity rotate, only a subset of the views Sep 01 00:56:22 A frameLayout? I'll have a look Sep 01 01:17:49 Its not clear from the layouts if you can do that but it makes sense. You can certainly do it progromatically looking at the sensor demo under OS in the demos Sep 01 01:35:21 I tried a demo quickly with some embedded linear views and framelayouts and they all were rotated to the same orientation as their parent Sep 01 01:35:50 So if you manage it through just xml I'd like to hear about how you did it or maybe see an example Sep 01 02:15:41 * Razec see ya Sep 01 02:19:02 nighty Sep 01 02:20:26 How could I both list elements and include a mapview within an activity considering that I can only extend the functionality of one of them? Sep 01 02:20:47 Is there a way to embed two activities within a frame? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Sep 01 02:59:56 2008