**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 22 02:59:57 2008 Sep 22 03:07:44 in the android emulator is it possible for the maps app to "know your location" or to have it set to "trick it" ? Sep 22 03:46:06 why do I get INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_NO_CERTIFICATES on linux when I do adb install foo.apk Sep 22 03:46:10 but it seems to work ok on windows? Sep 22 03:48:12 is there a workaround Sep 22 04:02:15 ahhh ofc. I exported an Unsigned Project by accident. What a strange option Sep 22 04:39:08 yay ^.^ status is working from inside emulator Sep 22 04:39:12 and this gui is looking sexy ;) Sep 22 04:50:48 yay ^.^ controls working from in emulator Sep 22 04:53:29 nice Sep 22 04:53:40 what else do u have? Sep 22 04:53:48 to do that is Sep 22 04:54:57 i have all the code written to read playlists, albums, etc Sep 22 04:55:04 and ive got a nice expandable list setup there Sep 22 04:55:15 most of all the stuff left is just hooking it all up Sep 22 04:55:30 next big test is getting album art ;) /me goes to try Sep 22 05:06:04 yay! album art working ^.^ Sep 22 05:07:29 hmm is there a good way of animating/fading between two bitmaps? Sep 22 05:07:36 * umdk1d3 goes to peek at imageview Sep 22 05:07:45 kinda like an a/b fade Sep 22 05:09:56 other than just animating them at the same time Sep 22 05:10:01 mb viewswitcher? Sep 22 05:10:07 ive not used it though Sep 22 05:10:22 aha!! Sep 22 05:10:34 thanks mickrobk :) Sep 22 05:10:56 :) Sep 22 05:14:46 screenshot? Sep 22 05:14:59 heh, long shot... :-p Sep 22 05:19:22 awesome!! =D Sep 22 05:19:25 * umdk1d3 goes to make video Sep 22 05:19:28 this is kick butt Sep 22 05:19:52 anyone with itunes /really/ want to try it out badly? Sep 22 05:19:58 none of the zeroconf stuff is done yet Sep 22 05:19:59 yes Sep 22 05:20:10 zeroconf stuff? Sep 22 05:20:10 so you have to manually pair it using a python server ;) Sep 22 05:20:20 yea because thats all UDP Sep 22 05:20:36 i have a python script that will help pair it with itunes Sep 22 05:20:36 that's an emulator limit? Sep 22 05:20:42 yea emulator Sep 22 05:20:55 but you can make a faked pairing using a python script+avahi Sep 22 05:20:58 sure i'll give it a shot Sep 22 05:21:18 let me throw this all up on subversion on a googel code probject Sep 22 05:21:25 and write up some quick directions Sep 22 05:21:39 first ill do some screenshots to taunt tho ;) Sep 22 05:25:30 heh Sep 22 05:26:11 here ya go Sep 22 05:26:11 http://umdk1d3.mine.nu/dump/shot.html Sep 22 05:26:33 the title/seekbar fade out after a couple seconds, but fade back in on touch Sep 22 05:26:58 wow, not bad 'tall Sep 22 05:27:08 and it actually works ;) and its written to good android gui standards Sep 22 05:27:10 umdk1d3, why you doing this? Sep 22 05:27:12 no crappy code under the hood Sep 22 05:27:18 muthu_: because its gonna be kick butt ;) Sep 22 05:27:26 great Sep 22 05:27:31 people are holding onto their iphone/touches right now Sep 22 05:27:44 havign a working remote on android is one less reason for them to have those devices in their hands ;) Sep 22 05:27:49 umdk1d3: plans to make it work with songbird, etc. Sep 22 05:27:53 y not make the play/pause stuff fade out as well? Sep 22 05:28:10 unix_infidel: the DACP protocol isnt too bad, and it would be super simple to whip together a python server Sep 22 05:28:26 does songbird take dcop or other ipc commands? Sep 22 05:28:32 no idea. Sep 22 05:28:39 mickrobk: the coverart looked too lonely without it :P Sep 22 05:28:47 umdk1d3: how long you been doing java / android development? Sep 22 05:28:56 java for years, android since januaryish Sep 22 05:29:07 <3 android Sep 22 05:29:27 also! no volume controls needed on screen Sep 22 05:29:45 we can override the volume buttons to change it on itunes Sep 22 05:29:46 =D Sep 22 05:29:54 *buttons=hardware/keyboard events Sep 22 05:30:11 you mean the volume buttons on the side? Sep 22 05:30:18 yep ^.^ Sep 22 05:30:32 instead of device volume, we can capture for ourselves and do whatever we want Sep 22 05:30:38 including sending them off to itunes to control volume Sep 22 05:30:47 I could imagine people connecting their XMBC boxes to the android via wifi and using it as their remote. Sep 22 05:31:15 does xbmc have a publshed REST-ful http interface, or IPC? Sep 22 05:31:26 well maybe not IPC because it would be hard to load something alongside it Sep 22 05:31:31 what OS is it based on anyway lol? Sep 22 05:32:23 well any media center device really. Sep 22 05:32:43 im also thinkign about adding a notification so that its easy to jump to remote from other activities Sep 22 05:32:48 *but only when actively playing Sep 22 05:32:55 remove on paused Sep 22 05:33:02 similar to how the on-board music player works Sep 22 05:33:04 much lighter weight then the dinovo and probably more intuitive. Sep 22 05:33:06 "ongoing events" Sep 22 05:33:12 u can just hold down the home key to jump between apps Sep 22 05:33:28 woah! mickrobk awesome! Sep 22 05:33:33 i didnt know about that before =D Sep 22 05:58:31 XBMC is an underrated app. Sep 22 06:05:22 whoa ... initial release of “XBMC Live“, a bootable CD which gives users the opportunity to try XBMC on their computer, without touching their harddrive. In addition, XBMC Live allows installation of XBMC, complete with an operating system, onto a USB flash memory sticks for a permanent, fast booting, dedicated set-top-box style installation of XBMC. XBMC Live is designed to support Microsoft’s MCE Remote and USB receiver out-of- Sep 22 06:05:22 the-box. Sep 22 06:06:22 if only they had that 3 months ago when I set up my home theatre... Sep 22 06:35:58 home key trick eh Sep 22 06:36:01 well that's what i was asking for before Sep 22 06:36:15 and i got schooled by people saying they dont want users to have the notion of bg processes Sep 22 06:36:18 ha! Sep 22 06:36:42 at least it can do background processes Sep 22 06:47:45 huh, i didn't know about that hold-home thing either. is this stuff documented somewhere? Sep 22 06:48:11 knowing them, probably not Sep 22 06:50:11 so will android run into slow downs like winmo? Sep 22 14:29:14 morning folks :) Sep 22 14:30:09 morning jasta Sep 22 14:30:13 how was le ire? Sep 22 14:31:08 awesome :) Sep 22 14:31:27 cool. well you didn't miss anything here ;) Sep 22 14:31:39 i didn't expect to :) Sep 22 14:33:24 been so quiet without you Sep 22 14:34:45 how's the new job going? Sep 22 14:37:34 up and down. they have me on the 6am-3pm indefinitely so I'm trying to get used to waking up at 4:30. (its killin me right now.) we're also at a shortage of lower level staff so I've been stuck doing things that are...less than challenging to say the least Sep 22 14:38:54 lame Sep 22 14:39:41 yeah. I'm hoping it gets better but I'm not going to wait around forever for that to happen. still trying to spend my free time working on cool stuff. Sep 22 14:40:31 i feel like i forgot that i was a programmer and that i wrote android code Sep 22 14:40:45 hah i bet Sep 22 14:40:53 i got back and had this "oh yeah, i do that normally..." :) Sep 22 14:41:05 ...moment Sep 22 14:43:41 need to get outa here before I get stuck in drone-mode Sep 22 14:44:05 im getting dumber by the day ;) Sep 22 14:45:06 how long were you gone for anyway? a month? Sep 22 14:45:16 16 days Sep 22 14:45:36 oh wow lol Sep 22 14:45:40 thought it was longer Sep 22 14:46:01 time passes slower when i'm not around. Sep 22 14:46:02 ;) Sep 22 14:46:05 yes it does Sep 22 14:46:29 i'm gonna post pictures tonight. i just have no energy this morning Sep 22 14:46:33 im dreading going back to work hehe Sep 22 14:46:39 you go back in today? Sep 22 14:46:55 yup. got back sat night. Sep 22 14:47:07 whats to dread? just the zzzfactor? Sep 22 14:47:21 yeah, it doesn't really compete with traveling around Ireland :) Sep 22 14:47:24 or are you going to have a bunch of shit piled up Sep 22 14:47:27 heh true Sep 22 14:50:44 theres supposed to be an unveiling tomorrow Sep 22 14:50:55 curious to see.. Sep 22 14:51:13 meh :) Sep 22 14:51:24 dont want to pick one up? Sep 22 14:51:35 i do, im just not really "in it" right now :) Sep 22 14:51:44 heh gotcha Sep 22 14:52:28 you will return to boring normal life and rejuvenate your enthusiasm for nerd shit soon enough. Sep 22 15:08:35 yo jasta Sep 22 15:08:39 how was ireland? Sep 22 15:08:46 had fun?? Sep 22 15:15:56 autocomplete matches wrong strings.. Sep 22 15:17:50 :( Sep 22 15:17:57 the drop down shows "abc", for "ad.." Sep 22 15:18:34 shit, it matches any letter Sep 22 15:26:57 looks like you need to set a filter Sep 22 15:32:52 hi. I'd like to know if it is actually trivial to use the both gps and compass information to determine .. 1. the position, 2. the orientation of the device... Sep 22 15:34:00 like if you where pointing a building with you camera and would like to see on google map your point and direction of the building.. is it possible to test actually (without device) .. in the simulator Sep 22 15:36:37 ? Sep 22 15:41:36 1. + 2. yeah, thats pretty much what GPS/Compass do ;) Sep 22 15:42:33 GPS within the emulator is easy, compass will respond 0 always (you'd need a replace it with a small fake for the emulator) Sep 22 15:50:41 muthu_: yeah, it was a blast Sep 22 15:51:44 yeah, but I was not sure if the compass is really usable (precision/device interferance) Sep 22 15:52:00 but actally it is not possible to know exactly... Sep 22 15:52:08 the fake is the following I suppose : http://code.google.com/p/openintents/wiki/SensorSimulator Sep 22 15:52:41 or fake it manually Sep 22 15:53:00 ok, thanks plusminus Sep 22 15:53:03 the compass in the live-demo at googleIO looks pretty exact Sep 22 15:56:07 Is it possible in Android to have an application that control every other application (without touching the code of those tierce application). For exemple, every time an other application do something, the application awake and do logging of changes of the other application and the pause until next application. Sep 22 15:56:51 This application should have access to data of all other application (like contact, not shared data...) Sep 22 15:57:06 every time it do something? thats alot of somethings Sep 22 15:57:29 In the same idea an application/layer between android OS and applications.. Sep 22 15:58:07 do you work at microsoft? :p Sep 22 15:58:10 "every time", I would say yes. But this will certainly be filtred Sep 22 15:58:29 lol..not Sep 22 15:58:39 student only on an android project Sep 22 16:01:00 (and my work, will be 100% open source) Sep 22 16:02:43 I just finished doing the notepad tutorial and reading the documentation.. (I am now looking the sample, one after the other). I ask this questions to know if this idea are viable or not in android framework.. Sep 22 16:05:26 thinair: the question is to vague to be answered. Sep 22 16:05:37 too* Sep 22 16:09:23 yeah, ok... so I will try to imagine a simpler case. I write an application which need to read all available stored information of the device. This application should not pull information, but be notified if a new writing as been done. Sep 22 16:10:03 An application tierce now write data (but not in shared content provider), could I access this information ? I suppose not.. Sep 22 16:16:16 uhm. Sep 22 16:16:36 hah Sep 22 16:16:59 thinair: are you saying you want to monitor the filesystem with inotify? you can do that, but only for files you can read (which is not "everything") Sep 22 16:17:34 otherwise, no, there is no mechanism where you can intercept "all information", and the basic notion of your question indicates a profound misunderstanding of computing machines. Sep 22 16:18:11 good to see ireland has only strengthened your spirit -_- Sep 22 16:19:26 that was all the Guinness beer Sep 22 16:20:57 I want more information on the Sprint phone with Android!!! Sep 22 16:21:16 jasta I asked to have some information about a framework, every famework can put the constraint he want ! therefore I believe it is not a profound misunderstanding of computing machines... Sep 22 16:21:29 thank you for your information about inotify.. I will search.. Sep 22 16:24:46 In my believing the framework has access to all information of the application. Therefore, could'nt we imagine a layer between android OS and the application level which would have the same access ? An application container or something like this ? Sep 22 16:27:38 spare us Sep 22 16:28:08 thinair: this layer was intentionally designed into the framework as content providers. there is no more general way than that. Sep 22 16:28:57 tethridge: actually, my favorite beer when i was there was Kilkenny, which is brewed at the Guinness brewery only through a partnership with the original brewery in Kilkenny town Sep 22 16:29:21 rub it in why don't you. :-) Sep 22 16:29:28 it's amazing. i brought back a 6 pack but i'm not sure if the canned version will be as good (it's got a nitro widget just like Guinness) Sep 22 16:31:55 I am not down with said "nitro widget" Sep 22 16:33:30 jasta: thank you for you precious answers. I will study this point in deep. Have you got a specific link for the inotify for android. I found inotify in general and suppose android kernel has this option, but I not really know where to start with that ? Sep 22 16:36:52 We have a java wrapper for inotify. See http://code.google.com/android/reference/android/os/FileObserver.html Sep 22 16:37:11 I missed the beginning of the discussion, so I'm not sure if that is what you need though. Sep 22 16:45:27 mikez5 : yes thanks Sep 22 16:51:42 so this tuesday we will see a t-mobile G1 offering? Sep 22 16:52:25 sn't it just being announced? Sep 22 16:53:25 anyone here wrote any apps for it already? :) Sep 22 16:54:26 its only a media launch Sep 22 16:56:29 I see Sep 22 16:56:39 device oct 17 Sep 22 16:56:58 press conference... I wonder if I have any old phone on my t-mobile family plan that is eligible for an early upgrade Sep 22 16:57:38 oct 17 is when market launch Sep 22 17:09:17 oct 17 is confirmed ? or just rumor Sep 22 17:09:34 just a rumor Sep 22 17:39:18 hey Dougie187 Sep 22 17:39:23 Hey Jasta Sep 22 17:39:24 hows it going? Sep 22 17:39:30 great, got back on Saturday Sep 22 17:39:34 nice. you have fun? Sep 22 17:39:41 yeah, it was an absolute blast Sep 22 17:39:46 glad to hear it. Sep 22 17:39:52 discovered a new favorite beer while i was there :) Sep 22 17:39:56 you lose a lot of brain cells because you were drunk so much? Sep 22 17:39:57 lol Sep 22 17:40:14 no, actually, i was with my gf so i didn't really do a ton of drinking Sep 22 17:40:24 How was the roommate? Sep 22 17:40:27 i was actually only drunk once Sep 22 17:40:44 but binge drinking is not as popular there as people think it is Sep 22 17:40:51 well thats cool. Sep 22 17:41:04 i don't know much about their culture. Sep 22 17:41:31 it's fun :) Sep 22 17:41:35 thats good. Sep 22 17:41:39 glad you had fun. Sep 22 17:41:47 and your back just in time for the Tmobile announcement. Sep 22 17:41:52 i'm sad i can't get Kilkenny Draught here in the states Sep 22 17:41:55 its my new favorite :) Sep 22 17:42:07 That sounds familiar. Sep 22 17:42:09 it's a creamy, nitro-based ale. Sep 22 17:42:29 now brewed by Guinness (as well as the original brewery), but only through a partnership. Guinness doesn't own the beer or the brand. Sep 22 17:42:50 how long has it been brewed by Guinness? Sep 22 17:43:30 not sure, probably just the last 30 years or so. Sep 22 17:43:38 ok Sep 22 17:43:41 Kilkenny is an old beer, first brewed in 1710 or something Sep 22 17:43:53 Cool Sep 22 17:43:53 (in the town of Kilkenny) Sep 22 17:43:58 lol Sep 22 17:44:06 How were the flights? Sep 22 17:44:12 tolerable, i guess Sep 22 17:44:14 i hate flying that long tho Sep 22 17:45:01 how long were they? Sep 22 17:46:04 coming back was the longest, 8.5 and 6 hours (two flights) Sep 22 17:46:33 that sucks. Sep 22 17:46:37 i bet you were dead. Sep 22 17:46:53 coming back was not so bad really. i was so exhausted it was nice to just sit and do nothing Sep 22 17:47:45 heh Sep 22 17:48:02 So you spending today getting all up to speed on the android happenings since you have been gone? Sep 22 17:49:24 nah, not really. Sep 22 17:49:28 mostly catching up at work :) Sep 22 17:49:32 5~ Sep 22 17:49:37 heh Sep 22 17:50:08 not much seems to have happened in the android community anyway Sep 22 17:50:17 not really. Sep 22 17:50:22 except a few new examples (yay), although the downloader example is all wrong and silly Sep 22 17:50:38 they pretend like interrupt() does something which it does not, a very common mistake. Sep 22 17:50:38 tomorrow tmobile is going to announce the "Dream" Sep 22 17:50:44 Dougie187: yeah yeah :) Sep 22 17:51:07 and then it is rumored that it will be out on Oct 13th Sep 22 17:51:38 i'll be in Portland then :) Sep 22 17:51:50 Oregon? Sep 22 17:52:02 still, i might not be the first person to buy the phone if you know what i mean Sep 22 17:52:11 well are you on Tmobile? Sep 22 17:52:19 i dont want to switch to T-MObile, and i'm wanted to see if i can get away with unlocking it and using AT&T Sep 22 17:52:19 or do you mean unlocked? Sep 22 17:52:28 true. Sep 22 17:52:38 so ill wait a week or so to find out if thats possible Sep 22 17:52:38 Portland is close to where I use to live. Sep 22 17:53:07 Im not on tmobile. Sep 22 17:53:12 we have friends there, going to visit a bit and also there's a flogging molly show that we're gonna go see Sep 22 17:53:14 so im waiting for sprint to release one. Sep 22 17:53:23 cool, sounds like fun. Sep 22 17:53:34 i have friends who live there now. but my family live like an hour south of there Sep 22 17:54:36 so is the android system linux or a JVM? Sep 22 17:55:12 well its built off of linux. Sep 22 17:55:52 afaik it has a linux kernel. Sep 22 17:56:28 whats javax.microedition.khronos Sep 22 17:56:44 opengl es ?? Sep 22 17:57:11 es? Sep 22 17:57:25 """mobile""" Sep 22 17:57:31 http://code.google.com/android/reference/javax/microedition/khronos/opengles/package-summary.html Sep 22 17:58:01 opengl for E mbedded S ystems Sep 22 17:58:01 boink Sep 22 18:01:01 nice Sep 22 18:01:24 I am currently still using a treo 680. I just read this on palms website: As of January 12, 2008, Palm no longer has rights to distribute the IBM WebSphere Micro Environment Java Virtual Machine (JVM) to our customers. JVM allows users to install and run Java applications and games on Palm OS® devices. Sep 22 18:01:28 Ha, I never got to try that Sep 22 18:02:24 Is that a sign of palm going down or is that just a sign of java having been too heavyweight for the platform? Sep 22 18:03:04 I just read today that the next round of palm smart phones are delayed past 2009 Sep 22 18:03:52 i read that too Sep 22 18:04:50 what does 'past 2009' mean. 2010 ? january 2009 ? Sep 22 18:05:06 2010 means they are out of business Sep 22 18:06:00 well, yeah Sep 22 18:06:01 :-) Sep 22 18:06:27 I wouldn't be buying stock in palm right now Sep 22 18:12:38 first half of 2009 according to some post on nasdaq.com Sep 22 18:21:24 Does anyone know when is the android's release coming? Sep 22 18:22:05 10 months ago Sep 22 18:22:09 or so Sep 22 18:22:51 really the alpha version was released 10 months ago? ohh... it must be that you are talking about m3, or m5.... Sep 22 18:22:57 yeah Sep 22 18:23:11 as for 1.0, bob's your uncle Sep 22 18:23:17 it's on the horizon Sep 22 18:23:22 give it some time Sep 22 18:23:32 yeah.. I read the release was coming soon Sep 22 18:23:40 probably as the phone pre's next month Sep 22 18:23:43 I am looking forward to that source code Sep 22 18:24:04 not sure if 1.0 of the SDK means truly open sourcing everything Sep 22 18:24:15 full source may trickle in a little later Sep 22 18:25:42 crossing my fingers... by the way has anyone here been able to succesfully load a custom made native library ? Sep 22 18:26:09 Terdhex: yes. Sep 22 18:26:35 however, it seems clear that Google will not officially support distribution of native components, so it is not a good idea to design your app to require that. Sep 22 18:27:31 I was able to load the library, but it seems to be having trouble identifying its members Sep 22 18:28:18 I think its a problem between the name of the method and the fully qualified name Sep 22 18:28:25 there is a good howto on the net that will help you. Sep 22 18:28:42 i also have a functional example of this on android-random.googlecode.com Sep 22 18:29:01 cool.. let me check Sep 22 18:30:35 jasta: how was Ireland? Sep 22 18:30:46 a blast :) Sep 22 18:31:21 I bet, I need to go Sep 22 18:31:21 hey you guys looking forward until tomorrow? Sep 22 18:31:55 It seems that there will be a live stream tomorrow from the press conference in New York Sep 22 18:32:11 got a link to the live stream? Sep 22 18:32:21 Not yet Sep 22 18:32:40 I've seen a few sites advertising "live coverage" Sep 22 18:32:48 where will i be able to see the stream? Sep 22 18:32:49 ah okay Sep 22 18:32:50 ill google it Sep 22 18:33:00 T-Mobile will provide a stream Sep 22 18:33:04 not sure if it's video or text Sep 22 18:33:06 i'm going to have to wait a couple of months till tmobile uk get the phones in Sep 22 18:33:10 http://twitter.com/tmobile_news Sep 22 18:33:15 In german :D Sep 22 18:33:18 I wasn't sure if live coverage was like the live coverage at apple events Sep 22 18:33:20 all text Sep 22 18:33:55 ow twitter account is in german :S Sep 22 18:34:00 i took french at school :( Sep 22 18:34:39 zhobbs: i fell in love with a new beer there that apparently Guinness doesn't feel necessary to export internationally Sep 22 18:34:40 The webcast will be in english I expect ;) Sep 22 18:35:27 zhobbs: the town of Kilkenny has a brewery started in the early 1700's which brews Smithwick's and a beer called Kilkenny. In the 60s, Guinness bought the brewery and now brews both beers but only exports Smithwick's to the states Sep 22 18:35:51 I've heard of Kilkenny Sep 22 18:35:56 but Kilkenny is better IMO. It's nitro-based, like Guinness Stout, but more like an amber. Very creamy, delicious beer :) Sep 22 18:36:29 its popular in most counties in Ireland (not as popular as Guinness Stout of course) Sep 22 18:36:51 jasta: wait, I think I've had that at an irish pub in florida Sep 22 18:37:01 Kilkenny? Sep 22 18:37:10 Really? That would be awesome if you could get it in the states. Sep 22 18:38:11 hmm, maybe not...I'll check again next time I go to that pub Sep 22 18:38:38 but I recognize the name/logo Sep 22 18:40:36 i brought back a 6 pack :) Sep 22 18:53:23 http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20080922006278&newsLang=en Sep 22 18:56:50 http://www.T-MobileG1.com/announcement Sep 22 19:01:40 so this time tomorrow the conference will be starting? Sep 22 19:01:55 hi everyone Sep 22 19:02:50 jimmysparkle: much earlier than this time tomorrow... Sep 22 19:03:08 says 10:30PM EDT, which was over 4 hours ago Sep 22 19:06:01 ah okay so thats like 4pm-ish uk time Sep 22 19:06:38 i wish i could have my android when they first come out!! :-( Sep 22 20:16:16 i sure wish i could remember what i was working on with Five before i left :) Sep 22 20:16:29 probably should've made notes for myself Sep 22 20:16:29 heh Sep 22 20:16:40 must not have had much piled up at work ;) Sep 22 20:22:44 oh no :) Sep 22 20:22:53 more than half way done catching up from the last 2 weeks hehe Sep 22 20:28:44 so jas Sep 22 20:29:03 jasta: ive been keeping myself busy ;) Sep 22 20:29:12 i reverse engineering the itunes remote control protocol Sep 22 20:29:20 and have an android client almost finished Sep 22 20:29:32 sadly cant download music like yours, but thats a limitation on apples side of things Sep 22 20:29:51 i never use itunes, but most of the target convert-them-from-apple crowd does Sep 22 20:30:32 *download/stream Sep 22 20:31:01 no worries, mine can't stream music either. Sep 22 20:31:07 * jasta hurls a rock at Android Sep 22 20:31:08 oh? i thought it could Sep 22 20:31:09 snicker Sep 22 20:31:27 umdk1d3: well, it's supposed to hehe. the MediaPlayer remains too broken in 0.9r1 :) Sep 22 20:31:32 lol Sep 22 20:31:54 itunes does a bunch of fairplay certificate crap, evne to stream non-drm mp3s >:/ Sep 22 20:32:13 but i can still control and browse library Sep 22 20:32:44 * umdk1d3 goes to find lunch Sep 22 20:39:07 * plusminus_ is pretty close to afterwork-time (== Android/-time) Sep 22 20:40:55 what do you do for a living +/- Sep 22 20:41:48 he is a stand up comedian at times. :-) Sep 22 20:43:49 heh, for all you know hes either a student in maryland or montana. Sep 22 20:43:55 f00f-: didn Sep 22 20:44:03 't understand that Sep 22 20:44:14 unix_infidel: maryland Sep 22 20:44:26 but not at the university Sep 22 20:45:06 lol Sep 22 20:51:22 i have one quick question Sep 22 20:51:41 say I have service running, i.e. media player Sep 22 20:52:44 on KeyDown event I close the service and same time i want to return to Home Screen, what is the best way the do it? Using Flags or....... Sep 22 20:52:58 any suggestion Sep 22 20:54:16 plusminus_: i thought you were in germany Sep 22 20:59:37 internship for 6 months Sep 22 20:59:46 Google: fraunhofer cese Sep 22 20:59:53 g2g bye Sep 22 21:15:12 hi :-) Sep 22 21:15:20 luckyandroid: hi Sep 22 21:46:31 Me and ascia saw a few people with android phones at the google dev day. Sep 22 21:46:44 I wasn't sure if they were doing it on purpose or what Sep 22 21:47:10 but they were on their phones and we were like "Isn't that the HTC dream"? Sep 22 21:47:21 you didn't ask them to see it? Sep 22 21:47:34 We tried to be as inconspicuous as possible walking past them again and again Sep 22 21:47:39 but it was definetly the phone Sep 22 21:47:52 either that or it was a phone made to look exactly like it Sep 22 21:48:14 We didn't really want to ask as the google employees felt awkward enough Sep 22 21:48:31 everyone was always dead edgy when you were speaking to you Sep 22 21:48:43 a lot more people than google employees already have the g1 Sep 22 21:48:59 "I don't think I'm allowed to speak about it" was the opener for every conversation Sep 22 21:55:22 chomchom: well, yeah, Google is pretty tight about it's stuff, but still, you could asked to look at it ;) Sep 22 22:01:44