**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 14 02:59:57 2009 Jul 14 03:02:48 glad to help :) Jul 14 03:11:29 ek Jul 14 03:11:52 Got I hate my DSL. Jul 14 03:16:28 hi Jul 14 03:22:45 anyone working with webview? Jul 14 03:26:58 Guest37013: just ask your question... Jul 14 03:27:03 er, Guest60509 Jul 14 03:27:07 annoying random nicks Jul 14 03:28:08 yeah idk about this whole ubuntu bit Jul 14 03:32:02 webview gets reloaded after orientation. I do no want to reload the page since dynamic html is appended. anyone with a similar encounter with solution? Jul 14 03:32:14 <_yoyo> which sound card does android use to play audio/video, dsp or alsa? Jul 14 03:32:32 orientation change that is Jul 14 03:37:26 Guest60509: I think you need to declare your activity to handle orientation changes itself - then handle them yourself Jul 14 03:39:49 I'm experimenting with a possible solution, save the webview object before the phone flips and restore the exact object. Jul 14 03:56:31 damnit Jul 14 03:56:42 have to call comcast again lol Jul 14 03:56:53 i screwed up the lan settings Jul 14 03:57:03 and cant access the damn router anymore Jul 14 03:57:12 er... cm.. whatever its called Jul 14 03:57:35 ls Jul 14 03:57:38 Macer: they have you access? Jul 14 03:57:44 have/gave Jul 14 03:57:55 they can access it from the outside Jul 14 03:58:08 yeah.. setting up the bridge is retarded Jul 14 03:58:17 damn Jul 14 03:58:19 like you can either ask them to do it Jul 14 03:58:22 they screw you over Jul 14 03:58:27 charter doesnt give a fuck Jul 14 03:58:27 or you can use a static ip Jul 14 03:58:28 :) Jul 14 03:58:40 about what? Jul 14 03:58:45 oh. it isnt them Jul 14 03:58:47 what the hell you do with routers Jul 14 03:58:51 i fucked myself up Jul 14 03:58:54 :P Jul 14 03:59:03 i messed the lan config up Jul 14 03:59:11 and cant access it Jul 14 03:59:14 lol Jul 14 03:59:23 but i am tired Jul 14 03:59:32 so i will deal with it tomorrow Jul 14 03:59:38 i quit working after i mistook hosting for a dns server Jul 14 03:59:39 :) Jul 14 03:59:43 like 30 mins ago Jul 14 03:59:44 lol Jul 14 03:59:47 i dont need to access my servers from the outisde anyways Jul 14 03:59:57 i have a local dns Jul 14 04:00:07 hm Jul 14 04:00:11 i dont get this Jul 14 04:00:18 i have my zimbra server. web server... etc Jul 14 04:00:25 but i want the vpn Jul 14 04:00:27 haha Jul 14 04:00:29 how are you supposed to have a hostname if you only have an ip? Jul 14 04:00:38 natting Jul 14 04:00:40 i mean, wehre the hell do i get the hostname from Jul 14 04:00:51 hostnames for the web is easy Jul 14 04:00:58 you just redirect Jul 14 04:01:08 the browser doesnt know the difference Jul 14 04:01:12 noo...like where you put in your dns servers Jul 14 04:01:19 oh Jul 14 04:01:23 the local ips Jul 14 04:01:35 also it connects to comcasts dns Jul 14 04:01:40 for outside ips Jul 14 04:01:41 yeah, but on the regisrar side Jul 14 04:01:43 errr Jul 14 04:01:52 my hostname is static.unknown.charger.com Jul 14 04:01:57 charter* Jul 14 04:01:58 wtf Jul 14 04:02:10 i needa call them :/ Jul 14 04:02:52 Hostname: static.unknown.charter.com Jul 14 04:02:55 yep :/ Jul 14 04:03:30 Macer: wtf would i ask them when i call? Jul 14 04:03:40 "can you change my hostname?" Jul 14 04:06:38 lol Jul 14 04:06:47 if you have a business line Jul 14 04:06:56 you tell them to reverse the ip Jul 14 04:07:11 all it is really good for is irc :-p Jul 14 04:07:29 Macer: and if you need a dns server for your website Jul 14 04:07:31 :P Jul 14 04:07:48 er Jul 14 04:08:12 then you make a local one and tell them to add a cname to the domain Jul 14 04:08:23 so others can see it Jul 14 04:08:41 Macer: but what if the registrar doesnt offer dns servers Jul 14 04:08:49 like im trying to get a website from nic.sh Jul 14 04:08:52 then use theirs Jul 14 04:09:00 hm... Jul 14 04:09:05 oh... Jul 14 04:09:11 if they dont? Jul 14 04:09:25 they make you enter your own when registering Jul 14 04:09:56 then make your own Jul 14 04:10:04 that would be even more awesome Jul 14 04:10:08 i know, but dont i have to have a hostname? Jul 14 04:10:17 especially if they let you run it Jul 14 04:10:31 you arent making sense Jul 14 04:10:33 heh Jul 14 04:10:39 you buy a domain name Jul 14 04:10:39 https://www.nic.sh/new1.html Jul 14 04:10:46 does anyone know if after you flash to the HTCHero SPL, you are able to switch back to the Engineering SPL Jul 14 04:10:47 i know im not, its late Jul 14 04:10:52 the host can be whatever you want Jul 14 04:11:14 if you have 1 ip. you can make the domain the ip Jul 14 04:11:19 ohhh Jul 14 04:11:26 well, look at that page Jul 14 04:11:28 and nat the rest by cnaming the hostnames Jul 14 04:11:29 but Jul 14 04:11:31 there are two fields per enter Jul 14 04:11:33 y Jul 14 04:11:36 (per server) Jul 14 04:11:44 Host Name IP Address Jul 14 04:11:45 you only get 1 reverse per ip controlled by uour isps dns Jul 14 04:11:57 lols if my isp lets me Jul 14 04:12:20 unless it is a business line with a static Jul 14 04:12:26 they usually dont Jul 14 04:12:39 lols i use it for business, but i pay for residential XD Jul 14 04:12:49 lol Jul 14 04:12:56 dont tell them that :) Jul 14 04:12:58 haha Jul 14 04:13:05 shhh Jul 14 04:13:08 they might here you Jul 14 04:13:11 hear* Jul 14 04:13:28 afaik most isps dont ever let res lines have any dns options Jul 14 04:13:44 just pay the extra $20/mon for a business line Jul 14 04:13:52 err, ill call tomorrowz :/ Jul 14 04:13:55 cheap bastard Jul 14 04:13:59 haha.. bbl Jul 14 04:14:00 Why thank you Jul 14 04:14:07 haha Jul 14 04:14:17 rich caste.. pffft Jul 14 04:14:38 haha Jul 14 04:14:43 cheap rich caste Jul 14 04:18:50 but trust me, my parents arent cheap haha Jul 14 04:19:17 lol Jul 14 04:19:48 what really sucks is that i dont really understand how comcasts directs the ip Jul 14 04:20:17 i will find that out when i call again tomorrow Jul 14 04:20:25 elfin magic Jul 14 04:20:34 business lines only stay on hold 3 mins Jul 14 04:20:35 haha Jul 14 04:20:42 i think so Jul 14 04:20:51 hah Jul 14 04:20:52 i have no idea how their stuff works Jul 14 04:21:03 it nats like 45 times Jul 14 04:21:05 haha Jul 14 04:21:09 hahaha Jul 14 04:21:11 wtf Jul 14 04:21:22 im serious Jul 14 04:21:31 the ststic is natted from something Jul 14 04:21:40 then i have to nat it 2 more times Jul 14 04:21:53 ststic/static Jul 14 04:22:23 90% of my infrastructure cpus forward pkts Jul 14 04:22:24 haha Jul 14 04:23:25 the actual comcast ip is 69.something which nats my ips block Jul 14 04:23:42 i think i will get more ips just for the hell of it Jul 14 04:23:57 i think it is $10 for 4 more ips Jul 14 04:24:32 so i can have actual host names but that would require way more than cheap routing and natting Jul 14 04:24:53 and i am talking to myself. damn chantix! Jul 14 04:25:46 hau Jul 14 04:25:48 err Jul 14 04:25:53 im about to go to sleep :P Jul 14 04:35:31 now im really going to sleep ;) Jul 14 04:35:34 peace Jul 14 04:42:49 nooo Jul 14 04:42:53 I finally beat teeter Jul 14 04:42:54 :( Jul 14 04:43:25 Macer, home isp allows you to order static ips? Jul 14 04:55:12 hey I was wondering if someone could help me, my rom supposedly has apps2sd including(cyanogen) but my internal memory is filling up Jul 14 04:56:04 and I can't download apps. does anyone know if I had to partition my sdcard in order for it to work or has anyone has the same plroblem? Jul 14 04:59:06 Guest3416, did you patition your sd card before installing the rom Jul 14 04:59:57 no I didn't. 2 questions is it safe and what should I use to do it? Jul 14 05:00:17 yes it is safe as long as you have all your data backed up first Jul 14 05:00:48 preferably you should use linux to partition it, but if you don't have that there is an app on the market to help with partitioning Jul 14 05:01:08 it's called apps2sd. don't use it to install apps2sd with cynogenmod though, only use it for partitioning Jul 14 05:01:30 sorry for the questions but how do I backup my data Jul 14 05:01:59 anything on your sdcard that you want to save Jul 14 05:01:59 copy to your desktop Jul 14 05:02:32 ok download apps2sd partition my sdcard then reboot? Jul 14 05:02:43 no Jul 14 05:02:46 well format before partition then reboot? Jul 14 05:02:51 after partition Jul 14 05:02:58 and formatting and such Jul 14 05:03:05 then reinstall cynogenmod Jul 14 05:03:11 ok Jul 14 05:06:02 thanks for the help Jul 14 05:07:08 np Jul 14 05:07:11 let me know how you make out Jul 14 05:09:40 will do. Jul 14 05:13:29 haraken its the guest. one last question. how should I partition it sizes and formats? Jul 14 05:13:59 n1tsua: ? Jul 14 05:14:24 n1tsua, how big is the sd card Jul 14 05:14:39 8gb Jul 14 05:15:02 512mb for ext3 and rest fat32 Jul 14 05:15:11 I did 1gb just to be safe but I was told that is over kill Jul 14 05:15:34 haha nice Jul 14 05:15:52 what goes on the ext3 then. just apps? Jul 14 05:16:04 apps, private data and dalvik cache Jul 14 05:34:54 test Jul 14 05:35:08 ok heading to bed Jul 14 05:35:08 gnite Jul 14 05:39:14 http://imgur.com/mCUfG.jpg Jul 14 05:41:24 lol Jul 14 06:05:08 hihi Jul 14 06:05:28 does anyone know where to get Android know issue list? Jul 14 06:05:51 b.android.com Jul 14 06:06:50 thanks very much.. Jul 14 06:08:59 anyone know if the g1 wifi hardware can support monitor mode? Jul 14 06:10:29 399 people in here and no one is talking? Jul 14 06:11:59 what is monitor mode? Jul 14 06:12:41 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monitor_mode Jul 14 06:18:23 * d474rpr is bored Jul 14 06:21:31 d474rpr: maybe Jul 14 06:21:39 try wl12xx driver Jul 14 06:21:49 just looking at that Jul 14 06:46:10 tmzt: i'll just check it out on wednesday when i get my phone back Jul 14 06:46:16 thanks though Jul 14 06:46:53 cool Jul 14 06:47:05 this means getting a git kernel and compiling it Jul 14 06:47:24 somebody was working on that for 2.6.29 I think Jul 14 06:58:31 tmzt: u around? Jul 14 06:58:44 yeah Jul 14 06:58:46 sorry Jul 14 06:58:49 been busy Jul 14 06:59:08 what happened with the screen? Jul 14 06:59:28 nothing Jul 14 06:59:32 the picture didnt do anything Jul 14 06:59:42 well i mean it didnt fix anything Jul 14 06:59:58 but it showed the problem? Jul 14 07:00:06 what problem? Jul 14 07:00:14 yeah, you pmed Jul 14 07:00:21 the hardware problem Jul 14 07:00:37 it can't fix anything Jul 14 07:00:40 i was told it could be fixed by taking out the screen and doing something to it Jul 14 07:00:51 tapping it? Jul 14 07:00:57 maybe Jul 14 07:01:05 some times it's permenant Jul 14 07:01:09 involing an eraser and something electric thing Jul 14 07:01:14 is it worth taking apart? Jul 14 07:01:16 oh Jul 14 07:01:31 where did you see that? Jul 14 07:01:37 my friend told me Jul 14 07:01:45 he does lotz of hardware stuff Jul 14 07:01:48 what did they say? Jul 14 07:01:57 electric what? Jul 14 07:02:01 im not sure Jul 14 07:02:05 can't be magetic Jul 14 07:02:14 I would love to know :) Jul 14 07:02:25 well he told me to use ur harddrive magnet to get more pixels stuck lol Jul 14 07:02:33 no Jul 14 07:02:39 this isn't a crt Jul 14 07:02:51 but im pretty sure it wasnt a magnet Jul 14 07:03:07 im getting the phone replaced Jul 14 07:03:13 ill ask him n get back to u Jul 14 07:03:15 he said a magnet would make pixels stick? Jul 14 07:03:40 he said a hard magnet and and some electrcisy will Jul 14 07:03:53 electristy* Jul 14 07:04:04 lol electricity * Jul 14 07:04:24 still not getting it Jul 14 07:04:57 i didnt ask for details Jul 14 07:05:18 he told me he has the tools if i need to do it Jul 14 07:05:22 do that Jul 14 07:05:28 ask Jul 14 07:05:36 already getting it replaced ;] Jul 14 07:05:43 it's always good to learn something Jul 14 07:05:50 no, for the details Jul 14 07:05:54 hi Jul 14 07:06:08 eraser sounds right Jul 14 07:06:08 not when i paid 600$ for the phone and its only 3 weeks old Jul 14 07:06:20 wow this sucks not having my comcast stuff working right Jul 14 07:06:25 i can't even try to get the vpn to work :) Jul 14 07:06:26 haha Jul 14 07:06:27 not asking you to have him fix it Jul 14 07:06:33 at least i know how their bridging works Jul 14 07:06:34 just expalin what he meant Jul 14 07:06:35 yeah i know details Jul 14 07:06:36 what an awkward way Jul 14 07:07:07 eraser to rub the backbof the matrix Jul 14 07:07:18 but very unlikely that will help Jul 14 07:07:23 could make it worse Jul 14 07:07:34 but the electric thing I don't get Jul 14 07:07:39 i will make sure i ask him 2mr Jul 14 07:07:48 ok Jul 14 07:07:51 thanks Jul 14 07:08:01 def gonna sell the replaced magic lol Jul 14 07:08:08 try putting it in an autoclave Jul 14 07:08:10 im not gonna go thru another dead pixels n shit Jul 14 07:08:30 might grab a hero or a touch pro 2 Jul 14 07:08:32 sterilize the pixels Jul 14 07:08:47 whats an autoclave? Jul 14 07:09:11 the device they use to sterilize equpment at hospitals Jul 14 07:09:12 it's like a regular clave, but it runs automatically Jul 14 07:09:33 +i Jul 14 07:09:59 not to be confused with a conclave Jul 14 07:10:08 lol thats funny some guy on here was saying i should put it in the freezer and this is the complete oppsite lmao Jul 14 07:10:16 or an anticlave Jul 14 07:10:20 kRutOn: wanted to ask you about terminal source code Jul 14 07:10:33 not sure if you answered in cb Jul 14 07:10:42 kRutOn: where would i get a hold of those? Jul 14 07:10:48 kRutOn: you'll be glad to know that I was using connectbot at 4am today, in bed Jul 14 07:11:47 kRutOn: ah you did, sorry Jul 14 07:12:05 had the wrong channel window Jul 14 07:15:36 tmzt: browser doesnt support java right? Jul 14 07:15:54 which? Jul 14 07:16:04 I don't think so Jul 14 07:16:06 why? Jul 14 07:16:52 trying to run this http://www.jscreenfix.com/applet.php?width=1440&height=900 Jul 14 07:17:27 well http://www.jscreenfix.com/applet.php?width=320&height=480 to be exact Jul 14 07:18:26 how does that fix the screen? Jul 14 07:18:39 seems to be the same thing as what we did manually Jul 14 07:18:52 you could convert the jar Jul 14 07:19:12 just wanna try it Jul 14 07:19:13 give it an AppletContext Jul 14 07:21:31 hi Jul 14 07:21:35 i have one question. Jul 14 07:21:38 Can text/plain mail be sent from the Gmail application program? Jul 14 07:22:24 test it and see Jul 14 07:22:42 if you have a normal account/client Jul 14 07:24:13 It tried. sending by multipart/alternative. Jul 14 07:24:13 I want sent by text/plain. Jul 14 07:24:18 Is it impossible? Jul 14 07:29:47 ukstudio: don't know Jul 14 07:29:56 try the other client Jul 14 07:30:01 forget the name Jul 14 07:30:41 i see. Jul 14 07:30:43 thanx Jul 14 07:31:57 uhm, I just received an OTA update (2MB and it's supposed to be a security fix) - anyone knows something about it? is there a changelog or something somewhere? Jul 14 07:32:33 tauno: against what? Jul 14 07:32:45 ar x Jul 14 07:32:46 no version name, no changelog no nothing in the update dialog :(( Jul 14 07:32:48 tar tf Jul 14 07:33:15 to a UK G1, stock firmware, build CRB43 Jul 14 07:33:29 wow, wrong channel Jul 14 07:33:38 2mb? Jul 14 07:34:18 http://android.clients.google.com/updates/signed-kila_eu-CRC1-from-CRB43-FIX2.1c36f92b.zip Jul 14 07:35:55 great Jul 14 07:36:03 more name collisions Jul 14 07:36:14 unzip -l anyone? Jul 14 08:01:29 repo sync does not work currently? Jul 14 08:03:04 ugh :p Jul 14 08:03:12 now i'll have to release a new version Jul 14 08:04:41 Doesn't happen much on http://android.git.kernel.org/?o=age Jul 14 08:08:28 jelg: what's in CRC1? Jul 14 08:08:52 jelg: Jul 14 08:08:58 JesusFreke: Jul 14 08:23:52 http://tinyurl.com/nkypfa Jul 14 08:24:48 a lynx, I love you for you lack of image loading and javascript Jul 14 08:25:37 Would anyone mind answering a simple Java question? Jul 14 08:27:00 qqchose: don't ask to ask Jul 14 08:28:23 OK. With a thread pool (such as the kind you get from Executors.newFixedThreadPool()), how do you query the pool to see if all of its tasks are completed? Jul 14 08:28:34 None of the methods seem to do that. Jul 14 08:38:18 hey guys/gals Jul 14 08:44:19 I have a q. the default alarm clock in android 1.5 does not work when the phone is off Jul 14 08:45:07 wont wake me up Jul 14 08:45:23 off meaning powered off, or meaning sleeping? Jul 14 08:45:36 powered off totally Jul 14 08:45:46 well, no, if it's powered off the alarm won't fire Jul 14 08:46:54 why do you expect the alarm to ring if you power off the phone? Jul 14 08:47:21 Leeds: because thats normal for other phones. Jul 14 08:47:35 really? Jul 14 08:47:47 i can't image my alarm would ring if i turn it off... Jul 14 08:47:51 "power off" is similar to "removed battery" Jul 14 08:47:57 my nokia and siemens phones did this. Jul 14 08:48:08 Gelb: power off, or sleep? Jul 14 08:48:09 are you sure that was really *off* ? Jul 14 08:48:14 Leeds: power off. Jul 14 08:48:16 completely off. Jul 14 08:48:20 but with batteries inserted. Jul 14 08:48:20 * sipa1024 googles Jul 14 08:48:26 ah well, that don't happen here Jul 14 08:48:30 just leave your phone turned on Jul 14 08:48:35 they have a timer in their real time clock that can switch the phone on. Jul 14 08:49:13 like PCs, their real time clock can also awake a PC at a given time and boot it. Jul 14 08:50:02 its a good thing for a phone, so you can be sure the alarm will work in the morning, even if your battery is nearly empty and you don't have a chance to recharge i. Jul 14 08:50:05 it Jul 14 08:51:19 I used it quite often, when I wanted to make sure no one could call me at night. Jul 14 08:55:46 actually those nokia phones that do that, don't completly turn off when you turn them off on button Jul 14 08:55:57 only way to shut them totally is to remove battery Jul 14 08:56:35 sure that they are not completely off? Jul 14 08:57:37 I mean, for every phone, the real time clock still gets power so you don't have to set the time after switching on. Jul 14 08:58:00 ILEoo: like when the phone is turned off and the alarm you set goes off? Jul 14 08:58:04 but that is not what I would call "not completely tuerned off" Jul 14 08:58:10 me too Jul 14 08:58:42 what if that real time clock uses a freq that interferes with airplanes? Jul 14 08:58:58 Macer: then they should also forbid watches. Jul 14 08:59:02 heh Jul 14 08:59:09 only digital ones Jul 14 08:59:26 Gelb: dont they already? Jul 14 08:59:41 all that have a battery, only mechanical watches would be allowed in such cases. Jul 14 08:59:48 Macer: not where I live. Jul 14 08:59:55 when i came back from iraq they took my lighter but let me keep my m16 Jul 14 09:00:03 figure that one out Jul 14 09:00:34 Macer: yep, they still have radio on etc to speedup network connection after 'start', or atleast some models had Jul 14 09:00:45 Macer: you could set yourself on fire with a lighter, thats more difficult with a m16. Jul 14 09:01:00 i suppose Jul 14 09:01:58 i thought the guy was joking Jul 14 09:03:04 but he seriously took my plastic lighter. and paid no attention to the semi automatic rifle attached to my arm on a sling Jul 14 09:03:47 because if i were going to take over the airplane. i would ditch the rifle and go straight to my lighter Jul 14 09:10:47 * sparkle_ grumbles and tosses out an empty lighter Jul 14 09:33:50 okay, so Spinner doesn't do onClick... how do I do a simple "call me back when the user clicks/selects an item"? Jul 14 09:59:10 When i try add the local.manifest.xml file to build for the dream it says "project kernel/common not found" Jul 14 09:59:24 when i try to do a repo sync Jul 14 10:02:10 What do you think; will we seen something like this also work with Android phones? http://www.precentral.net/palm-introduce-push-services Jul 14 10:03:07 s/n// Jul 14 10:07:55 Hi Jul 14 10:08:14 evening Jul 14 10:09:00 do u know if u can unpartition a sd card in the terminal emulator on the phone? Jul 14 10:09:55 there is no fdisk iirc. Jul 14 10:10:30 oh there is... so yes you can. Jul 14 10:12:29 what Jul 14 10:12:45 you can. Jul 14 10:12:49 use fdisk... Jul 14 10:14:05 oh do you know how to do it exactly ? Jul 14 10:14:28 i partitioned like 200 mb on my 1 gb card Jul 14 10:14:46 but i was never able to use it Jul 14 10:15:04 the apps2sd thing Jul 14 10:15:54 sorry, if you don't know how to handle fdisk you should use another partitioner on your pc not on the phone. Jul 14 10:16:50 depending on how vital the data on your sd card is currently, i'd suggest you experiment with fdisk :) Jul 14 10:16:59 yeah i was just scared of screwing up my pc lol Jul 14 10:17:47 omfg... Jul 14 10:25:04 ugh i don't know how to do it Jul 14 10:28:41 Hi everybody ... I'm trying to develop an application base on maps ... and I have a problem Jul 14 10:29:27 I need to cut my maps in regular zone Jul 14 10:29:38 something like a global grid Jul 14 10:29:54 that cover the entire earth Jul 14 10:31:06 after, I need to know the part of this grid for a know location Jul 14 10:31:34 someone already know a solution for me ? Jul 14 10:34:32 no one ? Jul 14 10:54:04 http://cgi.ebay.ie/CECT-G1-Quadband-GSM-Mobile-phone-with-Google-Android_W0QQitemZ370223747096QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_MobilePhones_MobilePhones?hash=item56330e1018&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A2|66%3A2|39%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50 Jul 14 11:25:55 okay i just flashed to cyanogen rom and it did the apps2sd thing automatically Jul 14 11:26:05 it says i have 200 mb secondary memory Jul 14 11:26:20 now im trying to get somethiong from the market and it wont download Jul 14 11:26:33 it just says starting download... Jul 14 11:26:43 is there something i need to do? Jul 14 11:28:38 oh it finally downloaded Jul 14 11:28:50 nevermind :) Jul 14 11:54:22 I got connectbot working on a japanese magic! Jul 14 11:55:11 you have to switch it to the regular input method Jul 14 11:57:52 hey, can anyone help, i cant seem to "repo sync"... Jul 14 12:05:51 is typing on the magic exciting ? Jul 14 12:07:24 lol Jul 14 12:07:24 no Jul 14 12:08:02 repo sync returns: "error: Cannot fetch platform/bionic" can anyone help? Jul 14 12:09:10 teratoma: if you're used to carving hieroglyphs into rock walls, i suppose it's extremely exciting and easy :D Jul 14 12:31:54 I sent a mail to Android Beginners and Jul 14 12:31:54 Android Developers Jul 14 12:32:20 and it's not showing here http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers Jul 14 12:32:28 is the list moderated? Jul 14 12:32:40 i believe so Jul 14 12:33:49 didn't write anything rude Jul 14 12:33:59 so I don't get why it isn't shown :( Jul 14 12:34:36 and there aren't any rules or something like that to know if I did something wrong :( Jul 14 12:41:36 anyone know of a good comprehensive tutorial on layouts? Jul 14 12:42:41 or willing to give a hand with something that has to be pretty simple (at least I think it would be) Jul 14 12:45:37 When i build android from source, it worked the first time, flashed onto phone, works fine, tell it to make again an it sayd "Argument list too long" Jul 14 12:46:58 rlundy82-: Check http://developer.android.com/guide/tutorials/views/index.html Jul 14 12:47:24 Macarse: thanks Jul 14 12:48:59 blue_: I am a newbie, I was willing to know if that is possible. you need root right? Jul 14 12:49:38 Macarse: what for mate? to flash your own build? Jul 14 12:50:01 blue_: yes, actually the repository version. Jul 14 12:50:22 yes you need root to do that Jul 14 12:51:01 blue_: did you try to do the same thing on the emulator? Jul 14 12:51:12 nah i never bother with the emulator Jul 14 12:53:47 blue_: no possibility of getting your cel bricked? Jul 14 12:54:22 Macarse: theres always that chance! but thats the fun! Jul 14 12:54:59 blue_: sure thing! :) Jul 14 12:55:47 Macarse: i had a few times when i though i might have bricked it but i got it sorted in the end Jul 14 12:57:55 blue_: I will google if it's possible to compile from source and send it to the emu. Jul 14 12:58:19 i think it is, i did it before but i can't remember how Jul 14 12:58:52 oh, so you did it. Jul 14 12:58:52 nice. Jul 14 12:59:12 yeah but like i say i cant remember how Jul 14 13:00:16 Macarse: can i PM you? Jul 14 13:01:25 blue_: sure np Jul 14 13:01:28 blue_: http://source.android.com/using-eclipse Jul 14 13:33:35 hello Jul 14 13:33:47 hi Jul 14 13:34:10 what you use to make second button zoomable on swing when you go a new form ? Jul 14 13:34:12 can anyone confirm what username (root?) taht andriod on the G1 executes processes? Jul 14 13:34:14 ee i do not know how to tell Jul 14 13:34:31 could you please read my question from there? : http://forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5397391 Jul 14 13:35:07 alphakamp: it depends. most apps install their own users Jul 14 13:35:21 no idea tonyukuk Jul 14 13:35:46 Death_Syn: what about standard stuff like email messaging? Jul 14 13:36:09 alphakamp: i think it depends on the build you have, hence the older builds have the exploit to root your phone Jul 14 13:36:12 from what I've seen those each have their own user Jul 14 13:36:51 k thats what i was looking for, I have a palm pre and everythign seems to run as root :( Jul 14 13:37:05 which i guess is why rooting it is so easy.. Jul 14 13:37:27 alphakamp: what are you trying to do? Jul 14 13:38:17 just confirming taht other linux mobile phone projects do or do not execute procs as root Jul 14 13:38:35 oh ok Jul 14 13:39:21 kinda weirds me out that the pre does everythign as root, but it sounds like as the phone is 'young' this is the norm, will change as apps get developed Jul 14 13:39:48 the HTC Dream ran everything as root at the start Jul 14 13:40:09 once we ll get viruses on phones and stuff that will change Jul 14 13:40:38 yeah, and considering how profitable that could be i doubt it will be wrong Jul 14 13:40:42 long* Jul 14 13:41:16 i fixed it :D Jul 14 13:42:56 grats Jul 14 13:43:19 cheers Jul 14 13:54:34 blue_: thanks Jul 14 13:56:36 hey Jul 14 13:56:43 normally 576 kb is huge for a j2me application? Jul 14 14:01:02 it depends on the phone Jul 14 14:01:17 some limit the size they can take OTA Jul 14 14:01:37 some are limited by their memory Jul 14 14:05:03 root is a powerful thing Jul 14 14:11:49 with great power comes great responsibility Jul 14 14:22:14 how slow the softkeyboard in android MID policy! Jul 14 14:23:55 FFS, i built android, it built fine, flashed to phone, worked perfect, go back to mydroid folder type 'make' and i get an error. second time today this happened, do i have to do a make clean every time? Jul 14 14:25:53 hi all Jul 14 14:26:00 lo Jul 14 14:26:32 could someone tell me how to save pics on the cupcake web broser Jul 14 14:26:54 long press the picture i think Jul 14 14:27:16 cool just like the iphone then Jul 14 14:28:04 does your soft inputmethod in mid work well? my input is very slowly, i have no idea about it Jul 14 14:30:34 some1 got an samsung galaxy? Jul 14 14:30:52 impressions? =) Jul 14 14:32:34 haven't heard of anyone having a galaxy yet Jul 14 14:32:36 whats mid Jul 14 14:32:49 mobile internet device? Jul 14 14:33:56 MoonUnit: hmm.. i cant find any good tests from the final version Jul 14 14:35:44 a good way to wake up is by smacking your heard against your nightstand because you jerked you head in your dream... Jul 14 14:36:54 laters Jul 14 14:55:41 anyone here use ES File explorer? Jul 14 14:55:55 I'm wondering how to get a list view instead of icon view of files so i can see full file names Jul 14 14:56:26 or how about OI file manager? that one doesn't seem to open mp4 files with a video player, says no associated application found or something Jul 14 15:02:22 I use ASTRO myself Jul 14 15:07:24 estrongs seems to use a built in video player on my phone to start the movies can I can't figure out how to use that video player with out estrongs Jul 14 15:07:32 is that apart of estrongs or does the android have it's own video player? Jul 14 15:09:52 ah well astro works perfectly for what i want thanks Jul 14 15:10:24 ffs, where has all of my phone storage gone Jul 14 15:10:32 the three largest apps are Robo Defense, Abduction!, and ConnectBot Jul 14 15:10:39 I have almost nothing installed Jul 14 15:11:13 what size mem do you have Jul 14 15:11:21 it's just a G1, so not much :\ Jul 14 15:11:28 1gb Jul 14 15:11:29 I'm running jf4c 0.6 Jul 14 15:11:30 clear the browser cache etc? Jul 14 15:11:37 * vol_ glares at grindking Jul 14 15:11:44 it's a simple question Jul 14 15:11:47 vol_, you using apps2sd? Jul 14 15:11:50 yeah, sorry, I have Jul 14 15:11:51 Haraken: no Jul 14 15:11:55 I probably ought to but w/e Jul 14 15:11:55 that's your problem ;) Jul 14 15:12:07 I ran out of memory my first day and had to figure out why Jul 14 15:12:07 i usually go to manage apps and see if any individual apps are loaded up with cache Jul 14 15:12:08 yeah yeah yeah Jul 14 15:12:19 that fbook shit was using like 9mb of cache Jul 14 15:12:23 adn it's a 400k app Jul 14 15:12:45 fbreader shows up as 1MB Jul 14 15:12:50 does it store stuff elsewhere? Jul 14 15:13:06 ahh Jul 14 15:13:07 as a matter of fact I'm strongly willing to bet that I leaked some memory somewhere w/ copilot installs or something, testing the different region builds Jul 14 15:13:15 because I HAD like 35MB free a couple days ago Jul 14 15:13:20 damn Jul 14 15:13:22 and now I have 15MB free, even w/ copilot uninstalled Jul 14 15:13:23 that's gotta be frustrating Jul 14 15:14:14 ffs, 24MB in dalvik-cache Jul 14 15:14:23 but yeah, this is wierd. Jul 14 15:14:31 du -d 1 -h in /data shows 34.1MB Jul 14 15:14:41 where the hell is the rest of it? Jul 14 15:15:24 ugh. Jul 14 15:15:33 ok, how do I back up tower defense? that's all I really care about. Jul 14 15:16:03 s/tower/robo/ Jul 14 15:16:26 hi all. what do you guys recommend to use for syncing contacts without a gmail account and no exchange server at hand? Jul 14 15:16:41 elementz1: thumbs and a lot of time. Jul 14 15:16:52 first question would be why would you get a g1 if you didn't want to use a gmail account Jul 14 15:17:09 grindking: it's feasable that someone doesn't want their contacts to live on the cloud Jul 14 15:17:29 which is fine, but that's not how atleast the g1 works it seems :D Jul 14 15:17:38 elementz1: there might be an app or two in the marketplace about importing contacts, but I don't really know of any off the top of my head Jul 14 15:17:42 maybe that other build that has activesync built in, but there's some bizarre licensing issue right? Jul 14 15:17:44 you can certainly import by sim card Jul 14 15:17:53 if it's branded 'google' on the phone you can't have active sync, if it says rogers etc or something else you can? or i read that last night Jul 14 15:17:55 hi all Jul 14 15:18:07 anyone else having problems with fedora eclipse, and the android SDK Jul 14 15:18:31 eclipse is getting upset with dependencies when i try to install the SDK Jul 14 15:18:47 vol_: yeah, ive seen that simcard option. what i would prefer, would be able to sync contacts somehow with my own server. i guess ill need to go for openexchange or openzimbra then Jul 14 15:19:20 yeah, sorry, no idea on how to handle this. You can certainly write your own app that will contact your server whichever way you see fit to synchronize your contacts. Jul 14 15:19:48 you'd be looking for a contactsProvider i think Jul 14 15:19:58 vol_: yeah, i guess i'll need to get into android dev anyways :-) Jul 14 15:21:12 ugh, fuck it, I'll just wipe flat out. Jul 14 15:21:23 hi, I'm a bit lost in the huge android build system...how do I build the generic RIL instead of the vendor RIL? Jul 14 15:21:35 btw. any devs in here that have been selling apps over the market? Jul 14 15:22:12 elementz: si Jul 14 15:23:23 vol_: whats your experience with googles accounting? is it as bad as with adsense? Jul 14 15:23:59 it's a little.... odd. Jul 14 15:24:16 my issue is more with the lackluster performance you get as a developer trying to interface with it Jul 14 15:24:20 thats a mild understaement vol_ Jul 14 15:24:41 vol_: do you have any analytics in your app? So you could maybe compare # of users vs # of purchases? Jul 14 15:24:49 I haven't tried withdrawing any money yet. Misnomer on saying I've been "selling apps", my company has been selling apps Jul 14 15:25:00 it does give you an install % Jul 14 15:25:08 so you know how many people ultimately kept it Jul 14 15:25:12 vol_: I'm wondering more about piracy Jul 14 15:25:26 piracy makes the world go round Jul 14 15:25:29 is piracy an issue yet? Jul 14 15:25:37 sure Jul 14 15:25:40 elementz: define "issue" Jul 14 15:25:45 elementz: it's easy, not sure how common it is though Jul 14 15:25:47 it is pretty trivial to pirate (I will not tell you how) Jul 14 15:25:53 vol_: lol Jul 14 15:25:56 does anyone know the android build system? Jul 14 15:25:58 our app has a seperate licensing scheme built in Jul 14 15:25:59 piracy is always an issue and there are some "rls grps" Jul 14 15:26:02 so we're not as concerned Jul 14 15:26:15 what app vol_ Jul 14 15:26:21 vol_: ahh, ok Jul 14 15:26:31 CoPilot Jul 14 15:26:39 my views do not reflect the company, etc. Jul 14 15:26:39 ahhh Jul 14 15:26:41 i guess the best way would be to release as donateware in the beginning.. Jul 14 15:26:55 anyway i can get a discount of being a long time copilot customer :) Jul 14 15:27:09 i was one of the first to get for the q Jul 14 15:27:10 no, because you must be lying if you say you've used copilot a long time ; Jul 14 15:27:11 ;) Jul 14 15:27:19 and the treo 700wx Jul 14 15:27:23 in all seriousness, probably not Jul 14 15:27:24 i still have my copies Jul 14 15:27:29 though it is cool to know Jul 14 15:27:35 :( Jul 14 15:27:49 check and see for me Jul 14 15:27:53 hook it up Jul 14 15:28:08 sorry, you'd have to talk to the marketing types to see if you could get any sort of discount, but honestly, $35 isn't that bad. Jul 14 15:28:10 i even sold like 5 copies to other people in my old store for u guys Jul 14 15:28:17 :> Jul 14 15:28:18 vol_: oh, you guys force the user to validate their google checkout # within 10 days? Jul 14 15:28:24 zhobbs_: yes Jul 14 15:28:41 there's no way to know whether an install is from the market or just downloading, so we need some way to check Jul 14 15:28:41 vol_: how has that worked out? Jul 14 15:29:24 eh, well enough, I honestly haven't fielded any support calls or anything so I don't know if anyone is having trouble with that Jul 14 15:29:41 it's a pretty simple setup, we just ask you to put in your order number as the first thing you do Jul 14 15:30:29 but no credit for loyal customers Jul 14 15:30:32 pfffft Jul 14 15:30:34 Hi, i'm getting info that application has stopped unexpectedly when running hello-jni code from samples. any idea what's wrong? Jul 14 15:30:47 calebr: check the logcat output Jul 14 15:30:56 hi JesusFreke Jul 14 15:31:00 if nothing else you'll get a nice stack trace in hex code format Jul 14 15:31:06 a pain to figure out but it's at least possible Jul 14 15:31:21 more likely you might see a java error via jni Jul 14 15:31:33 JesusFreke, do you have an idea on how I could make the generic RIL build ... Jul 14 15:31:43 which happens if you make a typo in a java method name you're looking up via jni, etc. Jul 14 15:31:54 vol_: thx Jul 14 15:32:26 in any case, the logging output is the first thing to look at Jul 14 15:34:23 whats RIL? Jul 14 15:34:51 vol_: how do you get the google checkout numbers? email account? Jul 14 15:35:09 the checkout seller account will get them periodically Jul 14 15:35:15 it's not instant, however, it's every day or two Jul 14 15:35:38 you can automate this but I don't know how (not my dept.) Jul 14 15:35:49 vol_: is yours done by hand? Jul 14 15:35:59 god I hope not : ( Jul 14 15:36:02 heh Jul 14 15:36:56 looks like I cool app...I might have to buy it :) It'll probably save me from a car accident (I use Google Maps a lot while driving) Jul 14 15:37:30 zhobbs_: heh. Yeah, I'm pretty happy with it on the whole : ) Jul 14 15:37:44 it's a nice step up from google maps to drive with Jul 14 15:38:04 plus, at $35, you can't really go wrong. Jul 14 15:38:11 yeah, that's a good price Jul 14 15:39:52 what do you guys think? about to order this Jul 14 15:39:53 http://www.amazon.com/Seidio-BACY26TMG1-BK-Innocell-Extended-T-Mobile/dp/B001PLO7KW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1247585890&sr=8-1 Jul 14 15:40:20 nexvision: how much were the other versions of copilot for your other phones? Jul 14 15:40:43 think i payed 125 for each one i had Jul 14 15:40:54 wow Jul 14 15:41:03 i must not have any reference as to how much gps software costs Jul 14 15:41:06 what is it, like photoshop? Jul 14 15:41:29 came on 2 gig sd card Jul 14 15:41:39 ahh Jul 14 15:41:51 haha i remember when 2gb cards were like $200 Jul 14 15:42:06 grindking: some of them are monthly Jul 14 15:42:23 i receive UnsatisfiedLinkError while trying to run hello-jni sample code and the msg says that class init failed - I run make app=hello-jni and no error occurs. where is the problem? Jul 14 15:42:45 zhobbs_: so how do they get away with that, do you have to pay a monthly service for those standalone gps hardware devices? i'm just not clear cuz i never use them Jul 14 15:42:59 grindking: no, on the phone Jul 14 15:43:12 i was wondering if the standalones charge a monthly fee though Jul 14 15:43:17 grindking: not aware of any monthly standalone GPS devices Jul 14 15:43:41 wonder how a software setup is justified in a monthly fee then Jul 14 15:44:40 hrm, i'm liking this weather widget Jul 14 15:44:48 with teh gigantic flip clock Jul 14 15:45:46 grindking, they're justified in it because they made it and so they can charge whatever the hell they want :) Jul 14 15:45:55 heh...my CC number changed and Market just fails and doesn't give me an option to update my CC number Jul 14 15:46:15 hey anyone here using a 2600mah battery? Jul 14 15:46:25 or similar battery Jul 14 15:46:27 i use the 1400 Jul 14 15:46:40 its no better really Jul 14 15:46:42 wondering if the extended battery cover makes the speaker sound muffled Jul 14 15:46:47 unless you calibrate and overcharge Jul 14 15:46:49 i heard it does Jul 14 15:46:57 grindking, that's what i read about the slim batteries :/ Jul 14 15:47:39 oh well guess I gotta order to find out Jul 14 15:47:42 i would hate to see how little battery life u get with a slim g1 battery Jul 14 15:48:07 NexVision, I get ~36 hours on my G1 with stock battery Jul 14 15:48:09 the horror! Jul 14 15:48:10 NexVision, you use the extended battery too? Jul 14 15:48:26 no stock battery Jul 14 15:48:35 if I'm just sitting in my apartment i can get two days Jul 14 15:48:46 when i said slim, i meant the slimmer of the extended batteries Jul 14 15:48:54 ahhhhh Jul 14 15:49:03 I haven't been using my phone a lot because I don't want to drain the battery Jul 14 15:49:09 so i end up using it a lot when it's on charge instead Jul 14 15:50:22 I understand the GPS firmware and some system libraries are non-free Jul 14 15:50:33 but is the driver portion freely licensed on the G1? Jul 14 15:50:59 hi is there someone that knows the android build system...I'ld like to build and ship the generic ril Jul 14 15:52:39 tpocra: adb and the driver are apache 2 so yes Jul 14 15:53:39 grindking: telenav, for example, charges $10. They do it because all of their routing, calculations, voices, etc are generated on a server Jul 14 15:53:43 so you pay $10 to access the server Jul 14 15:53:54 of course, if you don't have a network connection when you want driving connections, it's an issue. Jul 14 15:57:18 vol_: Wifi + bluetooth + GPS drivers are all apcahe licensed then? Jul 14 15:58:07 But all 3 have non-free firmware the drivers depend on to work? Jul 14 15:59:24 anyone else having issues with their miniSD card and a trunk build for HTC Dream? mine constantly says SD card removed Jul 14 15:59:59 anyone have experience with caps on tmobile data plans? Jul 14 16:00:05 hi here Jul 14 16:00:05 hi all Jul 14 16:00:05 do they limit you if you exceed 10gb or something in a month? Jul 14 16:00:23 how would i go about downloading my .apk Hello world app to my HTC magic? Jul 14 16:00:27 Gnutoo: yes http://source.android.com/download Jul 14 16:00:43 bizarrefish: put it on an sd card? Jul 14 16:00:43 wow Jul 14 16:00:48 this is just getting more and more disturbing Jul 14 16:00:49 lol Jul 14 16:00:57 bizarrefish: adb Jul 14 16:01:04 now my "area is in an outage" so they can't connect to my router until it's over Jul 14 16:01:05 LOL Macer Jul 14 16:01:05 lamusic, ok I'll look if they talk aobut the RIL in this page thanks Jul 14 16:01:19 i told u comcast was crap :p Jul 14 16:01:20 NexVision: if the first bitch set up the bridging like i asked her to Jul 14 16:01:22 hahaha Jul 14 16:01:23 what is RIL? Jul 14 16:01:29 then i coul have avoided all this crap Jul 14 16:01:42 hmmm Jul 14 16:01:43 he said my area is having an outage Jul 14 16:01:43 that reminds me Jul 14 16:01:46 and like Jul 14 16:01:46 sipa1024: ok, it's on the SD card, now what? Jul 14 16:01:52 I'M ON THE INTERNETS NOW! Jul 14 16:01:53 lol Jul 14 16:01:53 i needa call charter to give me an rdns Jul 14 16:01:56 how do i get it to install/run? Jul 14 16:02:15 lamusic: can you give me the link for your build again? I keep forgetting to install it and now I've lost the link. Jul 14 16:02:18 Macer: why the hell do you need to call comcast? Jul 14 16:02:19 if your on the internet now then there cant be a outage Jul 14 16:02:29 bizarrefish: you can do it via sdcard, but it's easier to do it via adb Jul 14 16:02:33 bizarrefish, it doesn't seem to talk about the ril...and I've the build system already setup...where should I look...I found a page about ril customization but...it doesn't tell how to build it(modify the makefiles) Jul 14 16:02:36 adb install myapp.apk Jul 14 16:02:41 oops sorry bizarrefish Jul 14 16:02:50 lamusic, it doesn't seem to talk about the ril...and I've the build system already setup...where should I look...I found a page about ril customization but...it doesn't tell how to build it(modify the makefiles) Jul 14 16:02:59 if you're installing via sdcard, go find a file manager somewhere (ASTRO or some such), then navigate to your sdcard and "open" your app Jul 14 16:03:03 it will ask you if you want to install Jul 14 16:03:13 I think you have to have install from unknown sources checked in settings Jul 14 16:03:16 linda file manager is a good one same as astro Jul 14 16:03:20 or root explorer Jul 14 16:03:44 this shit is like torture :) Jul 14 16:03:46 vol_: yes http://rhaamo.li/~luo/ dl, the 2.6.27 / 11 08 2009 is the stable build, and WIPE date for install Jul 14 16:03:51 vol_: I can't install via sdcard using ASTRO, I didn't try adb yet. Do you know what might be the problem. HTC magic. Jul 14 16:04:08 Macer: why??? Jul 14 16:04:10 Macarse: phone settings -> applications Jul 14 16:04:11 why call??? Jul 14 16:04:26 vol_: is there something like a server i need to start on the target, to do it via adb? Jul 14 16:04:28 the apk is the hello world from tutorials turned to apk with eclipse Unsigned... Jul 14 16:04:29 see if "allow unknown" or whatever it is called Jul 14 16:04:32 AakashPatel: because nobody can access my servers Jul 14 16:04:33 bizarrefish: adb is the server Jul 14 16:04:34 vol_: _ROTATE is the home screen rotate by default Jul 14 16:04:36 from outside my local network :) Jul 14 16:04:39 vol_: yep, that is set. Jul 14 16:04:41 Gnutoo: what is RIL ? Jul 14 16:04:42 if you have the sdk installed, and you point to the tools Jul 14 16:04:42 Macer: o.O do they control your router? Jul 14 16:04:46 you should be able to just do adb devices Jul 14 16:04:47 AakashPatel: they can Jul 14 16:04:48 to list the devices Jul 14 16:04:56 Macer: and can you control your own? Jul 14 16:05:06 well. they control their modem Jul 14 16:05:13 i'm trying to move all the stuff to mine so they can't really do much Jul 14 16:05:18 vol_: ok, it seems to not be detecting any devices Jul 14 16:05:19 lamusic, http://www.kandroid.org/android_pdk/telephony.html Jul 14 16:05:30 although... now that i think about it ... Jul 14 16:05:40 lol Macer, i dont get why you need t call them if you are in control of the router Jul 14 16:05:50 i'm not browser build here, but, i look in the evening, thx Gnutoo Jul 14 16:05:56 damnit Jul 14 16:05:57 heh Jul 14 16:06:03 bizarrefish: what is your OS? Jul 14 16:06:06 because comcast locks down there smc barricade Jul 14 16:06:09 maybe I should wait for JesusFreke Jul 14 16:06:13 vol_: fedora 11 x86_64 Jul 14 16:06:18 and they wont give u admin access to it Jul 14 16:06:20 bizarrefish: adb kill-server; sudo adb start-server Jul 14 16:06:28 that's the stopgap Jul 14 16:06:30 Gnutoo: you want optimise the android system ? Jul 14 16:06:35 vol_: do that on the target? Jul 14 16:06:39 no! Jul 14 16:06:42 k! Jul 14 16:06:42 do that on your computer Jul 14 16:06:43 :P Jul 14 16:06:58 sorry, I had another guy a while ago who kept trying to do these things ON THE DEVICE even though we told him not to Jul 14 16:07:20 nope, still not showing my device :( Jul 14 16:07:24 http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/device.html Jul 14 16:07:25 * bizarrefish replugs USB Jul 14 16:07:28 scroll to the bottom Jul 14 16:07:39 shows extra steps for ubuntu, no idea how they'd work out for fedora, sorry Jul 14 16:07:49 eh Jul 14 16:07:55 if that doesnt work Jul 14 16:07:58 bizarrefish: lsusb lists the device? Jul 14 16:08:01 then your might wanna try running adb as root Jul 14 16:08:13 oh Jul 14 16:08:16 what version of ubuntu? Jul 14 16:08:16 someone said that Jul 14 16:08:18 Macarse: yup: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 0bb4:0c02 High Tech Computer Corp. Jul 14 16:08:31 lamusic, there are people that want a 100% free android phone...they've got the G1...I've found out all the proprietary bits... http://www.pastebin.ca/1494818 now I'm trying to get rid of them Jul 14 16:08:50 Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0bb4:0c02 High Tech Computer Corp => I get that with an HTC magic Jul 14 16:08:56 bizarrefish: what device do you have? Jul 14 16:09:06 lamusic, notice that: /system/lib/libhtc_ril.so Jul 14 16:09:19 ha-ha!! it found it :D Jul 14 16:09:20 bizarrefish u using jaunty? Jul 14 16:09:22 (run as root Jul 14 16:09:28 lamusic, so the ril of the G1 is proprietary...but there is a free generic ril Jul 14 16:09:29 NexVision: nah, fedora leonidas Jul 14 16:09:34 oh ok Jul 14 16:09:36 Macarse: HTC magic Jul 14 16:09:38 Gnutoo: 100% free android, heum with no 3G ? and with NO GSM ? Jul 14 16:09:40 lamusic, and I want to build that ril Jul 14 16:09:54 lamusic, no with GSM...what's why I want the free ril Jul 14 16:09:54 yes 100 free is URBAN legend Jul 14 16:09:55 HTC magic iKicks iPhone iAss Jul 14 16:10:02 or not all works. Jul 14 16:10:10 lamusic, 100% free despite of the firmwares Jul 14 16:10:31 lamusic, for instance the openmoko is 100% free Jul 14 16:10:44 what is 'ril' ? Jul 14 16:10:56 kny broke alert Jul 14 16:11:03 got it Jul 14 16:11:05 spikebike, http://www.kandroid.org/android_pdk/telephony.html Jul 14 16:11:10 radio interface layer Jul 14 16:11:12 mikedg, GV broken? Jul 14 16:11:14 yes Jul 14 16:11:23 it's a wrapper arround the AT commands Jul 14 16:11:26 Gnutoo: yes, but not gsm with other carriers is possible ... Jul 14 16:11:31 so Jul 14 16:11:32 yuo broke dg alert Jul 14 16:11:33 bizarrefish: are you following any guide? I am doing for the first time with debian. Jul 14 16:11:40 mikedg, oh hahaha that I did Jul 14 16:11:46 lamusic, I'll ask Jul 14 16:11:47 * KNY bows Jul 14 16:12:04 ill take a look, thanks for sending the trace Jul 14 16:12:19 Macarse: i'm just doing the hello world thing on the android devs website Jul 14 16:12:33 except mine says: "lo, bob." Jul 14 16:12:40 and then: "lo" Jul 14 16:13:00 hi room Jul 14 16:13:08 hi Jul 14 16:13:09 bizarrefish: the sd installation didn't work for you either? Jul 14 16:13:17 Macarse: i never tried it Jul 14 16:13:25 i wanted to do it with adb Jul 14 16:13:40 which is now working Jul 14 16:13:43 * bizarrefish is happy Jul 14 16:13:50 bizarrefish: nice :) Jul 14 16:14:02 anyone know where to dowmload appsintaller from? Jul 14 16:14:05 bizarrefish: can you try doing the sd install instead? Jul 14 16:14:38 help_me: check the market for ASTRO Jul 14 16:14:43 k, 1 mo Jul 14 16:14:52 help_me: or AppManager Jul 14 16:15:09 bizarrefish: you create the apk with eclipse? Jul 14 16:15:14 /wg 2 Jul 14 16:15:24 Macarse: i did, yes Jul 14 16:15:38 ends up in the bin/ dir Jul 14 16:16:00 also, the emulator is damned slow Jul 14 16:16:23 bizarrefish: I didn't find it slow, why you say that? Jul 14 16:16:34 bizarrefish: it's slow if you've got an older machine Jul 14 16:16:48 that said, compare some of the other emulators out there (I'm looking at you blackberry) and this thing is a racehorse. Jul 14 16:17:04 not to mention there's no bizarre magical incantations to get it working Jul 14 16:20:13 if I installed the android plugin for eclipse, is there a way to do the adb install my.apk method? or it need further setup? Jul 14 16:21:12 if it's not working from the command line, it probably won't work automatically from w/in eclipse Jul 14 16:21:19 you'll need to resolve that issue first Jul 14 16:22:33 hm Jul 14 16:22:48 Macarse: it boots up slowly, i mean Jul 14 16:22:52 i bet the damn comcast guy was just clueless and i get the next rep and they just get me going in a hearbeat Jul 14 16:22:55 he almost sounded drunk Jul 14 16:22:56 haha Jul 14 16:22:56 it boots at the same speed as the actual device Jul 14 16:23:03 if not a little slower Jul 14 16:23:13 vol_: I will setup up for command line now Jul 14 16:23:36 bizarrefish: remember you don't need to reboot when you modify your code. Jul 14 16:24:05 Right click on the project=> => Run as => Android application. Jul 14 16:24:21 Macarse: yeah, i know that now :) Jul 14 16:24:27 * bizarrefish needs a toilet Jul 14 16:24:31 brb Jul 14 16:24:36 bizarrefish: :) Jul 14 16:25:32 vol_: what I don't get is: how does adb know to which device to send (emu or realphone) Jul 14 16:25:39 vol_: I want to do both Jul 14 16:27:36 The old android emulator had a -console argument. What happened to that? Jul 14 16:31:23 anyone interested in some private info? Jul 14 16:31:50 sure Jul 14 16:31:52 like your ssn Jul 14 16:31:54 ill take it now Jul 14 16:31:56 :P Jul 14 16:32:04 awww Jul 14 16:32:11 someoen ruined the fun Jul 14 16:37:56 what the fuck Jul 14 16:38:12 wtf is going on with your build there JF? :) Jul 14 16:38:24 i just had a dialpad that wouldn't pop up Jul 14 16:38:42 and a "double tap" screen that wouldn't go away Jul 14 16:38:49 which i should probably disable because i hate it Jul 14 16:39:10 you can disable that??? Jul 14 16:39:18 i don't know Jul 14 16:39:19 haha Jul 14 16:39:21 i hope so Jul 14 16:39:25 i dont think so Jul 14 16:41:50 there has to be a way Jul 14 16:42:58 Does Cyanogen's rom work on Magic well? Jul 14 16:43:04 Or only on G1? Jul 14 16:43:39 heum Jul 14 16:43:59 for Magic, vodafone build, Ion build, sapphire build ! Jul 14 16:44:03 not G1 build Jul 14 16:44:55 vol_: oh sorry the links !! Jul 14 16:45:18 vol_: http://users.rhaamo.li/~luo/ (my browser build) i'm on my lappy Jul 14 16:45:25 sorry Jul 14 16:45:32 so Jul 14 16:45:44 2.6.27 is stable build, with auto rotate on home screen Jul 14 16:46:01 and all features Jul 14 16:46:18 but you must be config manually your APN Jul 14 16:46:26 i think Jul 14 16:49:48 Do anyone have an idea setting a hostname to a G1 ? Jul 14 16:50:05 While on Wifi it can help ... Jul 14 16:50:43 StanG, /etc/hosts Jul 14 16:52:04 ok, see it. Jul 14 16:55:38 GenericNode, you around? Jul 14 16:56:34 vol_: you have see ? Jul 14 17:16:49 hahaha Jul 14 17:17:00 Macer: the person at charter doesnt know what reverse dns is Jul 14 17:17:06 that helps alot Jul 14 17:17:57 TTD Chymbelyn : What do you mean by reverse DNS? Jul 14 17:18:01 :| Jul 14 17:18:51 AakashPatel: PTR record, presumably Jul 14 17:19:19 Aakash Patel: hm...PTR record may sound more familiar? Jul 14 17:19:21 lol Jul 14 17:19:44 TTD Chymbelyn : I have limited support for this kind of concern. However, I can provide you the primary ad secondary DNS. Jul 14 17:19:47 TTD Chymbelyn : Charter's primary DNS is 209.225.8.42, and the secondary DNS is 209.225.8.43. Jul 14 17:19:48 :| Jul 14 17:20:39 TTD Chymbelyn : For further assistance on this, please call our Tier Two support at 1-888-438-2427. Jul 14 17:20:41 :D Jul 14 17:21:13 awsm, now you just have to figure out how to get tier two to give you the number for tier three, *then* you can get it fixed Jul 14 17:22:43 lol Jul 14 17:22:45 for real? Jul 14 17:25:30 err Jul 14 17:25:48 what would i ask? my hostname is static.unknown.charter.com right now Jul 14 17:26:02 can you do a reverse dns for it? Jul 14 17:26:07 ?? Jul 14 17:26:34 bizarrefish: could you sd install? Jul 14 17:26:39 you're looking for them to provide classless delegated reverse dns Jul 14 17:26:58 not something you're likely to get out of a cable internet provider Jul 14 17:27:07 ill play around with em lol Jul 14 17:36:16 Is there a recommended mail client for android except for the included Mail app ? Jul 14 17:36:55 k-9 Jul 14 17:37:05 8gb class 6 for 19.99 with free shipping or 4gb class 6 for 8.95 plus shipping? hmmm tough choice Jul 14 17:37:43 Schmidt, m.google.com/mail Jul 14 17:37:48 mobile gmail Jul 14 17:38:56 languish: I already use the Gmail client, my work does not however :) Jul 14 17:39:50 MoonUnit: thank you. I will try it out :) Jul 14 17:40:14 or maybe I should just learn to use mutt and ssh home :P Jul 14 17:46:04 D: Jul 14 17:47:26 they want me to buy business cable :( Jul 14 17:47:31 cable/intenret Jul 14 17:47:37 whu Jul 14 17:47:40 why Jul 14 17:47:52 i needa reverse dns Jul 14 17:48:09 oh Jul 14 17:48:11 at home? Jul 14 17:48:20 yea Jul 14 17:48:29 why? why doesnt dyndns or whatever work for you Jul 14 17:48:42 uh...hmm...would that? Jul 14 17:48:54 i dont think so... Jul 14 17:48:59 dyndns does not provide reverse dns Jul 14 17:49:04 oh reverse Jul 14 17:49:04 duh Jul 14 17:49:10 :P lol Jul 14 17:49:19 as long as u have a static ur provider should do it for you Jul 14 17:49:28 gahhh Jul 14 17:49:29 anyone any idea on why a rebuilt kernel would cause "Removed SD card" message all the time? Jul 14 17:49:30 why do you need reverse? for mail or someting? Jul 14 17:49:40 i remember some service that clients complained for and don't work properly if reverse dns isn't there Jul 14 17:49:40 thats what i use it for Jul 14 17:49:41 mail/web/everything server Jul 14 17:49:44 mail servers Jul 14 17:49:53 doesnt matter so much for web Jul 14 17:49:58 but mail it does Jul 14 17:50:30 NexVision: i was gonna register a domain, but i needed to provide my own dns servers Jul 14 17:50:38 so thats why i needed the rdns Jul 14 17:50:42 no u need name servers Jul 14 17:50:51 where u have the website hosted Jul 14 17:50:52 why dont you colocate Jul 14 17:50:54 or get a VPS or something Jul 14 17:50:58 NexVision: nic.sh Jul 14 17:58:53 neonfreon: cuz i haz no money Jul 14 17:58:56 lol Jul 14 17:59:19 yah? you can get vps for < $10/mo Jul 14 17:59:25 w/ an IP w/ reverse dns Jul 14 17:59:30 again, i have *no* money haha Jul 14 17:59:39 :/ Jul 14 17:59:45 :) Jul 14 18:00:07 or how bout this, no money just to give away to people :) Jul 14 18:00:11 AakashPatel: uhm, why would you need your own DNS for a domain? Jul 14 18:00:29 AakashPatel: most of the cheap providers let you use theirs for free Jul 14 18:00:33 zinx: cuz they make you enter your own dns when you register on that Jul 14 18:00:48 zinx: you know a cheap place to get .sh domains? Jul 14 18:00:51 AakashPatel: so use some other registrar that provides you w/ servers Jul 14 18:00:53 besides nic.sh Jul 14 18:00:59 AakashPatel: oh lord, don't go with .sh Jul 14 18:01:06 zinx: aaka.sh Jul 14 18:01:08 :P Jul 14 18:03:01 so yea :/ Jul 14 18:03:15 enomcentral has them for 95 a year Jul 14 18:03:33 nic.sh had them for 95 first year, 45 renewal Jul 14 18:03:48 you can get .org/.net/.com/etc for much much less :x Jul 14 18:03:59 bin.sh Jul 14 18:04:22 zinx: yeah, but aaka.sh is way cooler :) Jul 14 18:05:05 nuke.sh Jul 14 18:06:47 gahh i guess all i can do is go with enomcentral :x Jul 14 18:07:20 you can get web hosting for that much Jul 14 18:07:31 are you're paying it just for a domain, yet claim you don't have money? :x Jul 14 18:07:40 zinx: shhh, im trying to think of this as an investment Jul 14 18:07:45 zinx: ...again...shhhhh Jul 14 18:07:50 ;) Jul 14 18:08:13 ok, as long as i can shush you when you say you don't have money :P Jul 14 18:08:21 i have no money Jul 14 18:08:26 shhhhhh Jul 14 18:08:27 lols Jul 14 18:08:29 yes you do Jul 14 18:08:32 zinx: fine i lied Jul 14 18:08:33 shhhhhhh Jul 14 18:08:34 :) Jul 14 18:08:35 :P Jul 14 18:08:40 i dont have alot of money ;) Jul 14 18:08:43 there we go Jul 14 18:09:45 i really like that weather widget Jul 14 18:09:49 the one with the flip clock Jul 14 18:09:53 weather smeather Jul 14 18:27:46 lol i wonder how many icons i can get one the right side of the notificaiton bar Jul 14 18:27:56 time to try :D Jul 14 18:28:39 don't you get a plus sign when there are too many to show? Jul 14 18:28:56 on the right side ;) Jul 14 18:29:06 err Jul 14 18:29:07 never tried that Jul 14 18:30:56 http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9756/deviceq.png Jul 14 18:30:57 lolll Jul 14 18:31:01 hey guys, if i was flashing the SPL and the battery accidently fell out, and now the screen just stays black, is there any way to recover? Jul 14 18:31:22 AakashPatel, ahah, we have the same background Jul 14 18:31:34 :D Jul 14 18:31:40 lol i just changed it today Jul 14 18:31:41 AakashPatel, try getting some email, SMS, etc Jul 14 18:31:51 ohhhh Jul 14 18:31:53 romainguy took that picture, IIRC Jul 14 18:31:54 the swirly Jul 14 18:32:02 why sms? Jul 14 18:32:12 AakashPatel, anything that will add to the notification bar Jul 14 18:32:22 JProc5: if the SPL is fucked, you are fucked Jul 14 18:32:26 i was trying to get the right side Jul 14 18:32:30 AakashPatel, yeah Jul 14 18:32:36 sms goes on left ;) Jul 14 18:32:47 err Jul 14 18:32:52 this is gonna be harder Jul 14 18:33:07 the sync icon Jul 14 18:33:08 you don't have GPS turned on Jul 14 18:33:13 doesn't that add something? Jul 14 18:33:17 ... Jul 14 18:33:20 errr Jul 14 18:33:21 i mean oooo Jul 14 18:33:30 screw that Jul 14 18:33:35 why am i trying ahah Jul 14 18:33:42 hm...for the purpose of science Jul 14 18:33:45 AakashPatel, also, just go to settings -> data sync -> menu -> sync now Jul 14 18:33:47 * zelrikriando is proud of his expensive voided 2 year warranty Jul 14 18:33:53 KNY: oh yea Jul 14 18:33:57 what are u tryin to do Jul 14 18:33:59 O_O Jul 14 18:34:19 wingless: trying to see how many icons i can get on the right side of the not. bar at once Jul 14 18:34:47 hmm Jul 14 18:34:55 AakashPatel, silent mode on Jul 14 18:35:06 its on vibrate :) Jul 14 18:35:17 oh, they replace each other Jul 14 18:35:17 lame Jul 14 18:35:27 sync, headphones, vibration, 3g, gsm, battery Jul 14 18:35:47 headphones? Jul 14 18:35:51 you mean bluetoof? Jul 14 18:35:59 earphones Jul 14 18:36:04 wingless: my first attempt http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9756/deviceq.png Jul 14 18:36:05 AakashPatel, how did you get edge and wifi? Jul 14 18:36:10 KNY: ;) Jul 14 18:36:16 lol sending an mms Jul 14 18:36:27 ahh Jul 14 18:37:15 lawl Jul 14 18:37:35 getting sync, edge, and gps all at once will be tricky Jul 14 18:37:46 the gps i gotta get still Jul 14 18:37:51 ah. maybe the earphones icon is only in hero, lol Jul 14 18:37:53 http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/228/device.png Jul 14 18:37:55 AakashPatel, google maps Jul 14 18:37:59 gps is only thing left Jul 14 18:38:02 yeah hold on Jul 14 18:38:21 ahttp://suigintou.desudesudesu.org/4scrape/img/355197.jpg nice Jul 14 18:38:24 oh wait Jul 14 18:38:37 wtf is that Jul 14 18:39:04 my exact reaction Jul 14 18:39:24 ~desu~desu~desu~desu Jul 14 18:39:43 lamusic: Ok, god it, thanks Jul 14 18:39:45 *got it Jul 14 18:40:36 KNY: got it :D Jul 14 18:40:54 * KNY waits for a link Jul 14 18:41:17 brb Jul 14 18:41:20 like 1 min lol Jul 14 18:41:32 photoshopped Jul 14 18:41:47 lol no Jul 14 18:41:53 i needa find someone really quick Jul 14 18:42:42 okay Jul 14 18:42:44 im back Jul 14 18:43:12 KNY: http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/228/device.png Jul 14 18:43:14 is anyone here going to join the contest Jul 14 18:43:29 lol Jul 14 18:43:32 i win! Jul 14 18:43:40 lawl Jul 14 18:43:43 it froze Jul 14 18:43:45 AakashPatel: what's that on the left? Jul 14 18:43:48 win = 250k Jul 14 18:44:06 Qwell: if there is too many icons on the left side Jul 14 18:44:08 that shows up Jul 14 18:44:11 anybody have a solution for "./fastboot boot recovery.img" not doing anything on my laptop 90% of the time? Jul 14 18:44:11 heh Jul 14 18:44:15 but the right side is over lapping it Jul 14 18:44:36 AakashPatel, ahaha Jul 14 18:44:48 pjv: try using a usb cord with a ferrite bead, if you aren't already Jul 14 18:44:51 wouldn't being in a call add another icon? Jul 14 18:45:00 no Jul 14 18:45:05 Qwell: not on the right side Jul 14 18:45:08 AakashPatel: missed call? voicemail? Jul 14 18:45:11 nope Jul 14 18:45:14 all left side Jul 14 18:45:15 JF, aha thx Jul 14 18:45:22 oh, right side.. thought you were just getting any "stock" ones Jul 14 18:45:28 nope Jul 14 18:45:42 well done, AakashPatel Jul 14 18:45:45 I bow to you, sir Jul 14 18:45:47 :D Jul 14 18:45:54 (ps, gv 2.5.0 out; get it while it's hot) Jul 14 18:46:00 lol Jul 14 18:46:19 gv 2.5? Jul 14 18:46:22 o.0 Jul 14 18:46:25 i wonder if someone else has done this XD Jul 14 18:46:28 KNY: does downloading it automatically send me an invite? ;) Jul 14 18:46:30 KNY: you write it? Jul 14 18:46:44 lewk at the about window!!! Jul 14 18:46:51 ;) Jul 14 18:46:54 i did, i forgot Jul 14 18:46:57 i saw your name AakashPatel Jul 14 18:46:59 :D Jul 14 18:47:08 pjv: also, from personal experience, it seems to help when I coil up the cord close to the port, and have the phone sitting on top of the coil (mostly to keep the coil in place). Jul 14 18:47:35 god i hate when on tv an alarm clock that sounds just like mine goes off Jul 14 18:47:37 Qwell, no. fleebailey33, yes. Jul 14 18:47:48 it makes me jump a bit lol Jul 14 18:48:08 Dear Google, Jul 14 18:48:08 Update the roadmap. Jul 14 18:48:08 Sincerely, Jul 14 18:48:08 Neverender Jul 14 18:49:35 JF, hmm, I'm trying a different cable with that kind of ferrite core, but it does not work either. Maybe I should reboot my laptop and phone first. Let me try that. Jul 14 18:49:42 KNY: feature request ? Jul 14 18:49:51 EugeneK: haha i can submit that as a bug now, that when the right side has to many icons it over laps the left XD Jul 14 18:49:53 pjv: did you see my comment about coiling up the cord? Jul 14 18:50:10 * EugeneK stabs AakashPatel in the face Jul 14 18:50:20 * AakashPatel eats EugeneK's shank Jul 14 18:50:32 fleebailey33, let's hear it Jul 14 18:50:39 pjv: you can use 'fastboot devices' to see if you've a connection or not Jul 14 18:50:45 yep, but my terminals freeze up on each command so I'm under the impression the connection somehow keeps open and might block new connections Jul 14 18:50:55 exclude list, for example i want to use GV all the time, except for two people Jul 14 18:51:08 for example my gf is on tmobile, and i have free minutes, so why use GV Jul 14 18:51:22 fleebailey33, because the point of GV is not "free minutes" Jul 14 18:51:32 well i know this Jul 14 18:51:45 i want to call my gf with my number from tmobile Jul 14 18:51:56 but everyone else GV, because i have mobile to mobile.. Jul 14 18:51:57 wingless, that currently fails, so I'll just reboots Jul 14 18:52:13 if you see my point.. Jul 14 18:52:15 fleebailey33: LIVE WITH IT Jul 14 18:52:17 :) Jul 14 18:52:19 * fleebailey33 cries Jul 14 18:52:23 Should the command "fastboot" be accessible from the command line of my rooted G1? Jul 14 18:52:23 anyway, I've heard this before and I'm still considering it. It's definitely do-able, but it's also non-trivial Jul 14 18:52:39 KNY: its irc, we specialize in trivial Jul 14 18:52:48 haha Jul 14 18:52:54 blunden: NO Jul 14 18:52:57 you run fastboot from a computer connected to the phone. not from the phone itself Jul 14 18:53:02 buleeahn: nope but there is a special command for flashing images Jul 14 18:53:29 Well I'm trying to flash a new spash image to my G1. Jul 14 18:53:45 I've got the image file converted and dropped into /sdcard/ but now I need to flash it on there. Jul 14 18:53:48 anyway, im just happy to be invited Jul 14 18:54:24 fleebailey33, :) just /msg if you find any bugs or have any other ideas Jul 14 18:54:28 great work KNY , and the fml app is good too :) Jul 14 18:54:31 will do Jul 14 18:54:36 /msg me if you need testing Jul 14 18:54:37 blunden: you use fastboot on your computer, not your device Jul 14 18:54:42 you boot your device into fastboot mode Jul 14 18:55:15 something like the NYC, was dissing google for not putting as much work on iphone apps with android Jul 14 18:55:26 i don't see mobile me, safari, or ichat for android Jul 14 18:55:29 wingless What's the command to flash a new splash image? Or how do I get into fastboot mode? Jul 14 18:55:38 fleebailey33: browser for safari Jul 14 18:55:40 also, in a year or so, android will be beating the iphone Jul 14 18:55:46 vol_: well a stupid example Jul 14 18:56:11 hi, if I want to upload apk with no signature, is it possible? Jul 14 18:56:19 Macarse: no Jul 14 18:56:25 it has to be signed something, even debug Jul 14 18:56:32 but debug signatures won't be accepted on the marketplace Jul 14 18:57:04 vol_: sorry I missed "I am using adb" Jul 14 18:57:07 sweet i got a ticket to harry pothead tonight XD Jul 14 18:57:43 Macarse: just the same. Jul 14 18:57:47 Macarse: it still has to be signed, even just to install it with adb Jul 14 18:57:49 you cannot install unsigned apps on to a device Jul 14 18:57:55 you can install debug signed apps Jul 14 18:57:59 and you can install regular signed apps Jul 14 18:58:09 but unsigned apps will just not be accepted Jul 14 18:58:17 oh, so that might be the issue with the sd-install Jul 14 18:58:20 if you don't want to sign your apps for testing, then just use eclipse Jul 14 18:58:28 I was trying to install from sd apk not signed Jul 14 18:58:36 if you're using ant to build your apks, you should do ant debug Jul 14 18:58:44 ant release will make an unsigned apk Jul 14 18:58:53 I am using eclipse Jul 14 18:58:58 I generate an apk unsigned Jul 14 18:59:08 and wanted to install it in my real device. Jul 14 18:59:16 if it's not signed it will not work? Jul 14 18:59:26 I have a nifty utility in my build environment that signs an apk with test keys Jul 14 18:59:39 you just do a java -jar testsign.jar whatever.apk Jul 14 19:00:03 Macarse: if eclipse built it, it should be signed Jul 14 19:00:05 ok i need 20,000 british pounds Jul 14 19:00:06 you can use jarsigner to check this Jul 14 19:00:13 cough up peoples, im starting a collection ;) Jul 14 19:00:24 wheee, my G1 is unlocked Jul 14 19:00:47 snadge: paypal? Jul 14 19:01:11 anybody seen dosbox or other x86 emulator for android? Jul 14 19:01:12 vol_: I did it with eclipse, but when trying to install to the phone using adb it says: Failure [INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_NO_CERTIFICATES] Jul 14 19:01:26 i want to try to run OS2/Warp Jul 14 19:01:31 Eight inches ... Nine, and still growing. His erection was now Jul 14 19:01:36 half as thick as his own wrist as -with a grunt of sexual ecstasy- he Jul 14 19:01:43 began to spurt enormous quantities of cum into Christa's throat. Jul 14 19:01:49 Greedily, she slurped and sucked on him as the tingle began to fade. Drop Jul 14 19:01:49 by drop, she tried to stem the stream, but enormous quantities spilled out Jul 14 19:01:58 from around her mouth. Nearly a minute passed, as Curt reached and Jul 14 19:01:58 exceeded ten inches. Still sucking down as much of his cum as she could, Jul 14 19:01:58 Christa squeezed his balls tightly, as if wringing every drop out of him. Jul 14 19:02:08 vol_, jasonchen: hello Jul 14 19:02:11 Spurting over her lips, face and hair, Curt's orgasm gradually subsided, Jul 14 19:02:11 leaving him still shaking with pleasure. Jul 14 19:02:11 Gasping for air, Christa wiped her mouth on the back of her hand Jul 14 19:02:23 -EWTF Jul 14 19:02:24 and looked at Curt, stunned. "That's ... that's some experiment!" she Jul 14 19:02:24 gasped. Jul 14 19:02:24 Curt looked at his erection, amazed. "I thought it had stopped Jul 14 19:02:24 earlier... My God, I'm huge!" Tentatively, he touched his engorged tip Jul 14 19:02:24 and patted it with his finger tips. It bobbed slightly as he stood up. Jul 14 19:02:26 sigh Jul 14 19:02:34 I mean it was kind of hot Jul 14 19:02:37 but still Jul 14 19:02:38 lol Jul 14 19:02:40 what a tease Jul 14 19:03:35 Yes! Jul 14 19:03:42 lol Jul 14 19:03:47 aw damn!!! Jul 14 19:03:51 the story didnt finish Jul 14 19:03:56 AakashPatel, never does Jul 14 19:04:04 someone let it finish lol Jul 14 19:04:29 Hi am using 1.5 when i try sending an via ddms i am getting a mediaplayer exception has anyone had this problem or know of a work around other than not sending sms's :) Jul 14 19:08:10 when you send an sms the media player borks? Jul 14 19:08:17 jap Jul 14 19:08:33 lol wtf Jul 14 19:08:38 kill the media player and try Jul 14 19:10:32 bbiab Jul 14 19:13:57 nope, really cannot seem to get the connection to work anymore today Jul 14 19:14:14 "fastboot devices" just hangs as well Jul 14 19:14:26 while "adb devices" and usb mass storage just work Jul 14 19:17:16 m3ny: I get that exception as well Jul 14 19:17:36 m3ny: I had assumed it was because my dev machine has no audio out Jul 14 19:19:31 thanks anyway for your suggestions JesusFreke and wingless Jul 14 19:27:18 wow, android-wifi-tether works like a champ. Jul 14 19:27:48 :D Jul 14 19:28:24 I guess I'll have to send the guy a donation. Jul 14 19:28:37 He made his app Free Software, which is deserving. :) Jul 14 19:29:23 vol_: I tried signing it and it worked. Jul 14 19:30:36 Macarse: excellent Jul 14 19:31:06 vol_: now I will try sd install with signed app to know if it was that. Jul 14 19:31:57 thanks b0nn will give it a try at work tomorrow, as it doesnt work with any android app Jul 14 19:32:08 hmm! jesusfreke's graphical su is very nice. Jul 14 19:32:34 s/jesusfreke/zinx/ :) Jul 14 19:32:55 oh, oops. I meant it was in the image, anyway. Thanks to all parties involved. :) Jul 14 19:33:16 vol_: yep, signing it worked also with sd. Jul 14 19:33:28 I couldn't install using Export unsigned with eclipse :( Jul 14 19:34:16 JesusFreke, where is the proper place to go for documentation about your images? http://jf.andblogs.net/ doesn't seem to have too much. Jul 14 19:38:43 the only problem I have is when I turn my phone, when the screen changes gave me an error Jul 14 19:39:04 Macarse: that's correct. when you export unsigned, it's unsigned. Jul 14 19:39:32 Macarse, adb logcat Jul 14 19:40:17 KNY: oks thanks. Jul 14 19:40:29 there is no way to test turning the phone in the emulator? Jul 14 19:40:34 yes there is Jul 14 19:40:36 numpad 7 and 9 Jul 14 19:40:45 and ctrl+f12 Jul 14 19:40:55 (for numpad to work, you have to have numlock off) Jul 14 19:41:00 remember that the phone rotates, your activity is essentially getting relaunched at that point Jul 14 19:42:18 wow, it also happens in the emu Jul 14 19:42:27 vol_: KNY nice to know that keys. Jul 14 19:42:51 should something be added to use the turn thing? I am using the notepad example Jul 14 19:42:56 so the code should be ok Jul 14 19:43:17 basically, when you rotate, make sure to save state appropriately in onpause, onstop, etc. Jul 14 19:49:26 hi all Jul 14 19:50:14 hiya Jul 14 19:50:22 vol_: KNY : thanks for the help Jul 14 19:50:35 yo, TommyBres Jul 14 19:51:05 hi Jul 14 19:51:26 hey tommybres Jul 14 19:51:56 TommyBres, new GV out today (though there will be a bug fix in like 20 minutes so you might want to wait) Jul 14 19:52:09 k Jul 14 19:52:16 i'm still trying to fix my callerID, kny Jul 14 19:52:20 haha Jul 14 19:52:22 that's goofy Jul 14 19:52:32 why whats up with it tommy Jul 14 19:52:33 eeeeeverything says "unknown" with the "call connected by google voice" notification Jul 14 19:52:44 contacts, non contacts, incoming, outgoing, missed... Jul 14 19:52:48 TommyBres, does your GV number end in a "1"? Jul 14 19:52:53 my call log is hilarious, it's a week of "Unknown" Jul 14 19:52:56 no KNY, it does not Jul 14 19:53:40 TommyBres, not sure why it would think it was always coming from your google voice number. I'll poke into that real quick Jul 14 19:55:25 KNY i'm sure it stems from the main issue which is calling everything unknown :P Jul 14 19:55:30 haha Jul 14 19:55:38 as i told you when it first started happening, even with GV uninstalled all calls say unknown Jul 14 19:55:52 yeah Jul 14 19:56:01 Where is the right place to get android-wifi-tether? From the market? Jul 14 19:56:11 buleeahn, not if you're on t-mobile US Jul 14 19:56:33 anyone got a invite to google voice i can use Jul 14 19:56:33 K, thanks. Jul 14 19:56:37 buleeahn, google "anetshare" Jul 14 19:56:39 facelessloser, no Jul 14 19:56:46 there's a free download on the website of the company who made it Jul 14 19:56:47 facelessloser, the only people that have them is Google. Jul 14 19:57:03 and google's friends Jul 14 19:57:10 oh right coz with gmail when you joined you could give them out Jul 14 19:57:18 yeah its not like that Jul 14 19:58:03 facelessloser, Google Voice has a significantly higher cost-per-user than gmail Jul 14 19:58:16 oh i see Jul 14 19:58:22 * TommyBres <3's costing corporations money Jul 14 19:58:23 are you using it Jul 14 19:58:33 NO we are not, it's against all organized religion Jul 14 19:58:38 facelessloser, they need to buy one phone number for each user, which costs real money Jul 14 19:58:55 ahh i see Jul 14 19:59:01 nah, I'm just guessing how their site works. So far I'm pretty good, I guess :) Jul 14 19:59:14 (yes, I'm clearly on Google Voice if I wrote an app for it) Jul 14 19:59:47 facelessloser, if you want someone to blame for you not having an account, blame all of the jerks with multiple numbers/accounts. Jul 14 20:00:00 * TommyBres is a jerk with only 1 account Jul 14 20:00:18 yeha Jul 14 20:00:20 im off Jul 14 20:00:33 laters Jul 14 20:00:49 KNY = GV author? Jul 14 20:00:56 yes Jul 14 20:01:02 KNY = god Jul 14 20:01:03 Ah, nice. Excellent app, thanks :) Jul 14 20:01:36 I was worried when GrandCentral migrated over but GV on the whole has been good to use. Jul 14 20:01:36 Igashu, my pleasure :) Jul 14 20:01:53 Igashu, yeah, that was a long weekend for me ;-) Jul 14 20:02:14 lol you've had a lot of long weekends with GV Jul 14 20:02:55 too true Jul 14 20:03:44 * Macarse justs notice the existence of gv and checks explanation video. Jul 14 20:04:23 hehe, I've still just been trying to think up another app idea; I had started working on exactly what froogloid put out with Key Ring, and when that came out it was so well done I just bought that one and then went back to the drawing board :P Jul 14 20:04:38 vol_: np :) Jul 14 20:04:43 it looks like the gallery app doesn't support png's at all as far as thumbnails are concerned, is this normal? Jul 14 20:05:01 i can open the image using a file manager and then itll open, but i can't see those pictures at all in the gallery thumbnail views Jul 14 20:05:07 lamusic: I just need to put another recovery image on this, the one I have doesn't seem to want to work for sapphire Jul 14 20:05:11 Igashu, what's Key Ring? I'll google it if you're lazy Jul 14 20:05:13 though I know i managed to bang it somehow last time Jul 14 20:05:30 KNY: scan loyalty card barcodes Jul 14 20:05:40 vol_: you want a recovery.img ? Jul 14 20:05:43 wait nm, the 'bug' changed Jul 14 20:05:49 Igashu, damn, I was going to make one. Glad to see I don't have to waste my time now haha Jul 14 20:05:50 keeps a virtual "wallet" of your shopping cards so you don't need to have them all on your real key ring Jul 14 20:05:54 yeah :P Jul 14 20:06:11 There's a few other things he didn't implement that I would have but his is solid enough that I figured I should think of something else ;) Jul 14 20:06:23 vol_: no no, get only the luo IMAGE Jul 14 20:06:31 Plus the fact that it only really works with gun-type scannners (flatbed grocery style scanners won't read the screen) makes it of limited use Jul 14 20:06:51 vol_: it's my second nick Jul 14 20:07:30 is GV already working? Jul 14 20:07:32 lamusic: no, I need a seperate recovery image Jul 14 20:07:37 Macarse, it's been working since March Jul 14 20:07:43 because the one I have currently doesn't really let me do anything Jul 14 20:07:52 like push your image onto my device in recovery mode Jul 14 20:08:00 KNY: nice, just for US I suppose Jul 14 20:08:15 vol_: this http://users.rhaamo.li/~luo/luo_Ion_2.6.27_11.07.2009_ROTATE_SIGNED.zip Jul 14 20:08:17 of course, 4 days after i uninstall/reinstall robodefense, counting on my scores being saved to the sd card... Jul 14 20:08:18 yes Jul 14 20:08:21 also, what's the difference between ROTATE and not Jul 14 20:08:21 he puts out an update Jul 14 20:08:23 with sd card backup Jul 14 20:08:23 lamusic: yes I understand Jul 14 20:08:36 I'm not trying to install this AS the recovery Jul 14 20:08:39 the rotate is a laucher.apk original Jul 14 20:08:49 I need another recovery image to actually install this Jul 14 20:08:50 blargh ... any1 no if you can run Livee chat 4 android on PC other than Live Disk ? Jul 14 20:08:53 with rotation active Jul 14 20:08:58 on home screen ;) Jul 14 20:09:04 hmm Jul 14 20:09:08 and work perfectly Jul 14 20:09:19 I already downloaded the other one :\ Jul 14 20:09:19 http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/14/screengrabs-the-g1-gets-some-serious-love-on-cable/ SWA-EET! Jul 14 20:09:22 let me get this then I guess Jul 14 20:09:34 test what you want :) Jul 14 20:09:51 but for recovery 1 min Jul 14 20:09:52 ugh, Tommy, lost your data? Jul 14 20:10:11 vol_: me i use this image http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530492 Jul 14 20:10:17 with nandroid restore Jul 14 20:10:30 igashu, yeah Jul 14 20:10:34 hmm, guess I'll try that Jul 14 20:10:37 like 30 achievements and all of my points Jul 14 20:10:44 That's actually something I'd like to write, a GUI for backing up individual /data/data dirs by app Jul 14 20:10:50 and restoring them Jul 14 20:11:22 well i have my apps on the sd card now, so i wont have to worry about uninstalling to temporarily free up space Jul 14 20:11:24 Whenever I flash a new system I end up doing it manually by just tarring up /data/data hehe Jul 14 20:11:36 lol Jul 14 20:11:49 nice copy/paste job :P Jul 14 20:11:51 TommyBres: I just had to wipe data on my device too :P Jul 14 20:11:52 yea Tommy but if you want to check out the new ____ build, etc, you still have to worry Jul 14 20:12:03 yeah, well, i don't cheat on JF Jul 14 20:12:43 i bounced around to a few magic images back when they came out but they were lame, since then havent used anything but jf images Jul 14 20:12:59 Macarse, Canada is grandfathered in, I believe Jul 14 20:13:24 lame Jul 14 20:15:31 welp, just flashed that new recovery with built in nandroid restore :X Jul 14 20:15:36 let's see how it went Jul 14 20:19:45 hehe Tommy, I generally stick with the JF images too Jul 14 20:20:02 but I've been running on the latest Cyan system for the last week or so and I'm actually liking it Jul 14 20:20:37 although, despite the fact that I do like the HTC camera, I _hate_ its filenaming scheme :\ Jul 14 20:20:49 you know what would be kewler? that nandroid makes an update.zip for you XD Jul 14 20:20:55 errn Jul 14 20:20:58 not update.zip Jul 14 20:21:02 i mean just a zip Jul 14 20:21:16 okay, they seriously NEED to put a warning in recovery when you pick wipe Jul 14 20:21:18 i you have a magic phone test my image boys : http://users.rhaamo.li/~luo/luo_Ion_2.6.27_11.07.2009_ROTATE_SIGNED.zip Jul 14 20:21:19 so you can just do fastboot update zipfile -w Jul 14 20:21:31 TommyBres: you wiped? Jul 14 20:21:31 is pure ion based, and my build Jul 14 20:21:35 wipe/backup are right on top of each other and the new recovery uses the trackball to select Jul 14 20:21:41 that's like, begging me to wipe accidentally Jul 14 20:22:04 Tommy: you still have to hit home to start the wipe, right? Jul 14 20:22:14 no Jul 14 20:22:26 afaik there is a confirmation Jul 14 20:22:42 nop Jul 14 20:22:43 e Jul 14 20:23:19 igashu you have to boot to recovery, yes Jul 14 20:23:30 pshhhh Jul 14 20:23:30 but once you boot to recovery, there's only 1 row between wipe and nandroid backup Jul 14 20:23:36 you guys and your silly ideas Jul 14 20:23:46 and the worst part about it, if you're trying to back up, you probably haven't backed up in a while... Jul 14 20:23:47 TommyBres: i think there should be a confirmation also Jul 14 20:23:54 and that's when you're going to accidentally wipe (i've done it once before) Jul 14 20:24:51 I can't reboot my phone now to check but I'm preeeeeeetty sure once you select the option to either write the update.zip or wipe data, it brings you to a confirmation that tells you to press the home button to begin. But I could be wrong :) Jul 14 20:25:06 TommyBres: have you ever factory reset? Jul 14 20:25:15 yes Jul 14 20:25:19 when android is booted up? Jul 14 20:25:24 igashu it does not for a wipe, i learned that the hard way ;) Jul 14 20:25:24 in the settings Jul 14 20:25:32 its like 3 confirmations lol Jul 14 20:25:32 oh, i dont know Jul 14 20:25:41 ah well, that's nice, it'd be nicer to have 1 in recovery too Jul 14 20:25:44 and iif you have a pattern set it makes you enter that Jul 14 20:25:51 good to know Jul 14 20:26:20 I need an AIM client because I'm running the ADP build, but I hear that even the pay ones log you out all the time. I would expect this if you went in and out of cell coverage, but people seem to be saying that they don't log you back in automatically. is this correct? Jul 14 20:26:38 autojack i've never had any problems with hello aim Jul 14 20:26:45 or hi aim, or whatever it is... and it's free Jul 14 20:26:49 OK Jul 14 20:27:00 so when you go in and out of coverage it logs you back in? Jul 14 20:27:24 well, i can't say i've made sure to pay attention... but i've never unlocked my phone to find that i was logged out Jul 14 20:27:39 so either i've never left coverage or it logs me back in heheh :P Jul 14 20:28:05 hehe Jul 14 20:28:07 OK. Jul 14 20:30:13 http://pastebin.com/de8f0062 => WTF? Jul 14 20:31:36 haha Jul 14 20:31:58 Macarse Is that work safe? Jul 14 20:32:04 yes Jul 14 20:32:30 Macarse: oh dude Jul 14 20:32:39 buleeahn: meaning of work safe? Jul 14 20:32:53 my english is not that good :( Jul 14 20:33:14 Is it safe for me to look at while I'm at work, or will it get me fired? Jul 14 20:33:15 Macarse, ahaha awesome Jul 14 20:33:19 buleeahn, it's fine Jul 14 20:33:25 what is better site to buy Hero, amazon.com or handtec.co.uk? I am from czech republic so I in case of some defect, I must send phone to warranty service from abroad. Jul 14 20:33:28 Yeah, I saw autojacks' response, thanks. :) Jul 14 20:33:56 buleeahn: oh, yep. sorry. Jul 14 20:33:58 do you have some random poeple jsut add you to chat? Jul 14 20:34:09 hello Jul 14 20:34:36 i gave this guy like a bit of help in irc, he asked for my email, i was like, "ehhh no" ...he actaullly LOOKED for it and found it Jul 14 20:34:39 AakashPatel: not from now on. Jul 14 20:34:44 and tryied adding me to gtalk Jul 14 20:34:50 AakashPatel, ahaah I remember that dude Jul 14 20:34:57 AakashPatel: not the first time them. Jul 14 20:35:01 I am not the first victim :) Jul 14 20:35:08 lol Jul 14 20:35:41 AakashPatel: this time he choosed a newbie, he is desperate :) hahaha Jul 14 20:35:52 hahah Jul 14 20:35:59 he says hes and expert and cant make a UI Jul 14 20:36:01 rofl Jul 14 20:36:31 # Jul 14 20:36:32 saursoftj: and u Jul 14 20:36:33 AakashPatel: I am looking what's the meaning of it it na Jul 14 20:36:33 question: is there a way to hint android that an EditText is for email so the soft keyboard can facilitate the user for entering an email (like showing @ and .com buttons)? Jul 14 20:36:34 # Jul 14 20:36:36 I am working on android Jul 14 20:36:37 # Jul 14 20:36:38 for google Jul 14 20:36:40 hahaha Jul 14 20:36:56 Macarse: meaning of what? Jul 14 20:37:20 AakashPatel: he said "it it na" Jul 14 20:37:27 lol Jul 14 20:37:30 it doesnt have one Jul 14 20:39:04 whatever :) Jul 14 20:39:43 wtf, these people dancing in music vids on mtv2 are just throwing thier body around Jul 14 20:39:52 flingin thier arms and crap Jul 14 20:40:35 okay, only the girls in the vidoes Jul 14 20:40:40 lol Jul 14 20:41:12 TommyBres: ohhh, I did try Hi AIM once Jul 14 20:41:17 I think I had issues with it even just on wifi. Jul 14 20:41:21 the UI sucks maybe? Jul 14 20:41:37 uhh Jul 14 20:41:44 what does that have to do with it lol Jul 14 20:42:48 everything Jul 14 20:42:56 no, it does d/c constantly Jul 14 20:43:47 oh no I remember Jul 14 20:43:49 lies, not everything Jul 14 20:43:55 Hi AIM showed me fucking ADS during my chats! Jul 14 20:44:02 so you're saying the terminal sucks? haha Jul 14 20:44:33 that was some bullshit. Jul 14 20:44:38 it doesn't seem to be doing it now though... Jul 14 20:44:42 lol Jul 14 20:45:29 ad-supported apps are the worst ever Jul 14 20:46:15 What is better wevsite for buying HTC Hero: amazon.com or handtec.co.uk? I need good international services. I'm from Czech republic so I in case of some defect, I must send the phone for warranty service from abroad. Thanks. Jul 14 20:46:54 idk if amazon ships it out of uk Jul 14 20:47:01 hold on Jul 14 20:47:14 handtec ships outside of UK Jul 14 20:47:51 which ones cheaper? Jul 14 20:48:42 htchero: amazon doesnt ship phones to czech rep. Jul 14 20:48:45 Mobile Phones and Magazine Subscriptions Jul 14 20:48:46 * United Kingdom (England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales). Jul 14 20:49:04 handtec is cheaper Jul 14 20:49:52 handtec :0 Jul 14 20:49:56 err :) * Jul 14 20:50:27 oah Jul 14 20:50:28 http://www.handtec.co.uk/page.php?xPage=international_orders Jul 14 20:50:32 tahts quite a price diff Jul 14 20:50:36 oh shit Jul 14 20:50:38 nm Jul 14 20:50:41 :D Jul 14 20:50:43 lol i read it as 349 Jul 14 20:51:32 so I should buy over handtec right? Never bought anything from UK. Jul 14 20:51:45 yea Jul 14 20:51:57 amazon uk doesnt ship to czech Jul 14 20:52:00 republic Jul 14 20:52:05 btw Jul 14 20:52:07 (phones atleast) Jul 14 20:52:09 I can't even find the Hero on amazon. Am I just stupid right now? Jul 14 20:52:16 KNY: amazon.co.uk Jul 14 20:52:17 oh weird Jul 14 20:52:25 there is no black HTC Hero? only brown? Jul 14 20:52:29 that's some weak sauce right there Jul 14 20:52:36 they have them in all llllll the colors Jul 14 20:52:37 lol Jul 14 20:52:46 http://www.amazon.co.uk/HTC-Hero-Android-Mobile-Phone/dp/B002BWPWRQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1247604494&sr=8-1 Jul 14 20:53:45 This item is due to be released on August 15, 2009. Jul 14 20:53:47 dude!!! Jul 14 20:53:51 they changed it Jul 14 20:54:09 what was it? Jul 14 20:54:16 sometime in july Jul 14 20:54:23 heh Jul 14 20:55:17 wait a fuck Jul 14 20:55:20 its july Jul 14 20:55:28 school starts next month :'( Jul 14 20:57:49 hi I've to build android for someone that doesn't have the space to do it...but I've no G1 and it hangs on make: *** No rule to make target `vendor/htc/dream/proprietary/brf6300.bin', needed by `out/target/product/dream/system/etc/firmware/brf6300.bin'. Stop. I know why(and can fix it) but my question is the following: could the firmware be included after building the images Jul 14 20:57:55 are the images jffs2? Jul 14 20:58:01 or ubifs or something like that Jul 14 20:58:32 uhh Jul 14 20:58:37 did you pull the drivers? Jul 14 20:59:03 AakashPatel, I don't have a G1 so I don't have them Jul 14 20:59:08 oh Jul 14 20:59:16 Gnutoo: and you are tyring to build for dream? Jul 14 20:59:17 AakashPatel, my question is not how to bypass the error Jul 14 20:59:21 oh Jul 14 20:59:30 why did you set it up to build for dream? Jul 14 20:59:35 if you want to use the emulator? Jul 14 20:59:41 AakashPatel, my question is : is it possible to include them in the image after Jul 14 20:59:46 no Jul 14 20:59:48 AakashPatel, no I build for someone else Jul 14 20:59:54 that has a G1 Jul 14 20:59:57 get thier drivers :) Jul 14 21:00:05 AakashPatel, that's not legal Jul 14 21:00:11 what? Jul 14 21:00:13 who said that??? Jul 14 21:00:25 AakashPatel, me ...they can't redistribute the drivers... Jul 14 21:00:34 ha...hahah...ha Jul 14 21:00:42 then you're out of luck :) Jul 14 21:00:44 AakashPatel, it's legal? Jul 14 21:00:55 well... Jul 14 21:01:02 marijuana is legal Jul 14 21:01:04 AakashPatel, because they aren't in the same city than mine...so it's a problem Jul 14 21:01:08 so? Jul 14 21:01:15 no one will care lol even if its illegal Jul 14 21:01:19 so I can't fisically pull it myself Jul 14 21:01:32 ... Jul 14 21:01:38 TommyBres: lol Jul 14 21:01:47 ok maybe I'll ask them but I plan to redistribute the image so how do I do? Jul 14 21:02:20 AakashPatel, what's the filesystem of the image? Jul 14 21:02:38 aakashpatel, according to socrates an unjust law is no law at all Jul 14 21:02:51 Gnutoo: look at hte script thatpulls them Jul 14 21:03:09 lol that wasnt socrates Jul 14 21:03:15 i believe it was st augustine Jul 14 21:03:19 AakashPatel,my main problem would be that I bet that the debian/ubuntu based distro don't include the modules for acceessing jffs2 and mtd-based filesystems Jul 14 21:03:31 AakashPatel, I've looked at it Jul 14 21:03:37 do you think that Cyanogen will modify his ROm for Hero? Jul 14 21:03:56 Gnutoo: uhhh Jul 14 21:04:00 AakashPatel, but I repeat my question...how could the user add the firmware *after* the image has been built etc... Jul 14 21:04:00 did you downlod hte adk? Jul 14 21:04:02 i think the hero has an uglier chin than mel gibson and the dream combined Jul 14 21:04:02 sdk* Jul 14 21:04:08 Gnutoo: you dont Jul 14 21:04:10 :) Jul 14 21:04:23 AakashPatel, I've the sdk too...free build...with free JDK...I've an ugly simple patch for that Jul 14 21:04:27 chin is ok Jul 14 21:04:38 aakashpatel how can i fix my damn caller id Jul 14 21:04:38 Gnutoo: uhhhh Jul 14 21:04:40 idk Jul 14 21:04:44 TommyBres: wipe Jul 14 21:04:46 :P Jul 14 21:04:48 .... Jul 14 21:04:52 YEAHRITE, try again Jul 14 21:04:54 AakashPatel, ok if no one knows I'll try it after having build everything Jul 14 21:04:59 maybe clearning the data of the dialer app? Jul 14 21:05:01 orsomething Jul 14 21:05:04 Anyone knows if osmdroid died? The map viewer. Jul 14 21:05:09 AakashPatel, but it would require modules that the user doesn't have Jul 14 21:05:13 k Jul 14 21:05:16 you cant build the drivers Jul 14 21:05:23 AakashPatel, I know Jul 14 21:05:30 but will clearing contacts data remove all of my contacts? Jul 14 21:05:59 TommyBres: ... Jul 14 21:06:05 AakashPatel, I know that usually the drivers have to be extracted from the phone and put in a directory Jul 14 21:06:05 THE CLOUD! Jul 14 21:06:10 yeah, IT FAILS Jul 14 21:06:15 hahaha Jul 14 21:06:17 i removed all of my contacts once before and synced Jul 14 21:06:18 AakashPatel, but...I can't redistribute the image if I do that Jul 14 21:06:21 i was like yay, they'll all come back Jul 14 21:06:28 OHWAIT, it just removed all of them from my gmail contacts! Jul 14 21:06:29 they didnt o.O Jul 14 21:06:32 most useless sync ever Jul 14 21:06:33 holy shit Jul 14 21:06:40 yeah, it synced phone to gmail, not gmail to phone Jul 14 21:06:40 * AakashPatel backs up his contacts list Jul 14 21:06:44 * Gnutoo goes back hacking the android build system Jul 14 21:07:02 TommyBres: oh man Jul 14 21:07:03 wtf Jul 14 21:07:12 idk man Jul 14 21:07:17 TommyBres: you would also clear the data of sync orsomeshit also maybe Jul 14 21:07:17 i know since then i don't trust it for shit Jul 14 21:07:23 back up your contacts Jul 14 21:07:26 off of gmail Jul 14 21:07:31 "export" Jul 14 21:07:45 brb Jul 14 21:07:51 k Jul 14 21:09:49 well aakashpatel i didnt feel confident enough to clear contacts storage data Jul 14 21:09:57 but i cleared contacts, dialer, and dialer storage... still unknown for calls Jul 14 21:10:51 i'm sick of this stuff, bbl Jul 14 21:10:57 smokin and goin to the beach :P Jul 14 21:13:52 hey, how does one get nyt's irc client on a jf/adp build? Jul 14 21:15:03 lamusic: ok, installed the recovery image, I'm putting your 2.6.27 image on now Jul 14 21:15:20 you said it works except for needing to manually enter APNs? Jul 14 21:15:46 yes Jul 14 21:16:10 ok, lets see how this works out. Jul 14 21:16:17 but tomorow if it's possible Jul 14 21:16:32 i put the apn config of lot of people Jul 14 21:17:49 hmm, did you remove extra locales? Jul 14 21:18:06 I've got a friend who speaks russian who was complaining that the builds I put on the magic didn't have russian, and this build only has english Jul 14 21:18:33 keyboard looks nice Jul 14 21:19:21 so, uh, am I not supposed to have a home screen or what Jul 14 21:19:40 cause I gotta admit that's a little wierd. Jul 14 21:20:05 along with making the phone less than usable. Jul 14 21:29:51 vol_: the extra locale doesn't exit Jul 14 21:30:21 vol_: my base : http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/google-io-device.html Jul 14 21:30:29 only english version :) Jul 14 21:30:56 lamusic: ok, great. now how do I get a home screen? Jul 14 21:31:04 because I don't have one. Jul 14 21:31:29 heu ? Jul 14 21:31:42 re wipe Jul 14 21:31:43 reflash Jul 14 21:31:46 ugh Jul 14 21:31:50 I wiped before i ran this :\ Jul 14 21:31:56 work perfectly Jul 14 21:32:10 but the wipe i think not work ever perfectly Jul 14 21:32:55 i go smoke, i'm back in 10'' Jul 14 21:33:03 but sure Jul 14 21:33:10 if you have a magic 32B run Jul 14 21:33:15 and run perfectly Jul 14 21:33:39 the SPL version ? because i have a 1.33.2005 SPL Jul 14 21:33:47 and i'm testing only with this ... Jul 14 21:34:15 but my rom run on other SPL on other phone (friend) Jul 14 21:34:19 i go smoke Jul 14 21:36:46 I'm using the SPL you told me to use Jul 14 21:36:51 I'm using the rom you told me to use Jul 14 21:36:59 I'm using this on an ION (the one google gave at IO) Jul 14 21:37:27 ugh, I'm going to try the hero rom and see how that works. Jul 14 21:40:31 vol: I'll spare you the suspense and let you know, "slow" :) Jul 14 21:41:06 eh, I just want to see what all the fuss is about myself :) Jul 14 21:41:18 also, curious to see how copilot runs Jul 14 21:41:21 (slow) Jul 14 21:41:46 It definitely has some nice features. Honestly even above the fb/flickr integration, I wish 1.5 had built in exchange activesync support Jul 14 21:42:02 How different are the HERO, cyanogen, and jesusfreek roms? Jul 14 21:42:39 the jesusfreke 1.5 is more or less exactly the same as the stock 1.5, with one or two things added Jul 14 21:42:55 cyanogen is still the standard 1.5, but customized to a much greater extent Jul 14 21:43:10 more than 1 or 2 :). but yeah, much closer than stock Jul 14 21:43:35 http://jf.andblogs.net/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=19 <--- changelog Jul 14 21:43:44 err Jul 14 21:43:48 "much closer to stock"* Jul 14 21:43:54 JesusFreke: I didn't mean to trivalize your work in the slightest :P Just pointing out that the experience would be much closer to what you'd expect on a stock phone, with some added extras Jul 14 21:44:18 just clarifying ;) Jul 14 21:45:34 The Hero rom is, if I'm not mistaken, still based on Android 1.5 but with some closed source additions, including a home app replacement, among other apps, by HTC Jul 14 21:46:12 major platform changes also Jul 14 21:46:19 is there a way to display the date in the menu/title bar at all times, instead of just when I drag down the notifications dingus? Jul 14 21:46:26 no Jul 14 21:46:33 weak. Jul 14 21:46:36 well.. you could write (or maybef ind) an app that does it. Jul 14 21:46:51 I'm proud of the fact that my life moves at a pace where I can forget what the date is :) Jul 14 21:47:00 haha Jul 14 21:47:07 that just means you don't write checks anymore :) Jul 14 21:47:20 haha Jul 14 21:47:36 or have terrible horrible unsettling deadlines at work Jul 14 21:48:18 I think I'm going to write a mahjong game, I'm really surprised one hasn't been written yet. Jul 14 21:48:46 Igashu: wait until the market is open for asian users Jul 14 21:49:09 Well, I can write it now and then profit from it then :P Jul 14 21:49:11 lol Jul 14 21:49:31 Well, at least profit until one person downloads it and then releases it on a chinese warez site I suppose :o Jul 14 21:49:35 do you mean a tile matching game or actual mahjong? cuz one will profit now, one will profit a lot more later Jul 14 21:49:50 actual mahjong, there are enough horrible boring tile matching games Jul 14 21:50:29 There was a great one called HK Mahjong back on old old PalmOS and I haven't found a version for any other mobile platform since that's been decent Jul 14 21:51:43 Not looking forward to writing the CPU AI, but the rest of it should be pretty straightforward Jul 14 21:51:44 so write one with decent display/backend separation and do a j2me port as well :) Jul 14 21:51:55 yeah Jul 14 21:53:17 Well, the animated hero boot image is cool, but the fact that it keeps looping is obnoxious. I'm assuming that I need to try wiping again... Jul 14 21:53:48 *pops out from behind your logo* Jul 14 21:53:50 *waves* Jul 14 21:54:12 *poops* Jul 14 21:54:19 haha Jul 14 21:54:21 Now that would be an intro animation Jul 14 21:54:33 looks like a couple other people had the problem, they rewiped and reflashed and rebooted, and it worked. Jul 14 21:54:39 so, we'll see Jul 14 21:54:52 you may need to reformat your ext2/ext3 partition Jul 14 21:55:26 * AakashPatel never wipes Jul 14 21:55:42 We can tell Jul 14 21:55:44 *holds nose* Jul 14 21:56:43 :P Jul 14 21:57:44 anyone do their android development from the commandline? Jul 14 21:58:00 have my apk building from the commandline, trying to figure out how to launch it on the attached device Jul 14 21:59:16 is there any usable jabber app with otr support? Jul 14 22:00:23 vol_: work ? Jul 14 22:00:38 no :( Jul 14 22:00:42 heum Jul 14 22:00:48 ok screw it I'll try the regular htc sapphire rom. Jul 14 22:00:55 you have a 32 B sapphire ? Jul 14 22:01:06 yes Jul 14 22:01:14 vol, which system are you trying to flash? Jul 14 22:01:18 you have 2 time ? Jul 14 22:01:19 actually, how do I check? Jul 14 22:01:22 whose build, that is Jul 14 22:01:23 test* Jul 14 22:01:29 I'm pretty sure it's B, since it's an ION from IO Jul 14 22:01:51 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521505 Jul 14 22:01:57 haykuro hero rom Jul 14 22:01:58 you have SPL not hacked ? Jul 14 22:02:20 the spl has fastboot, if that's what you're asking Jul 14 22:02:40 vol: make sure you're running the latest SPL, otherwise you won't have enough space on /system Jul 14 22:02:49 .... Jul 14 22:02:51 ffs. Jul 14 22:02:55 vo Jul 14 22:02:58 really? that will make the difference? Jul 14 22:03:11 vol_: my rom on all 32B device are tested Jul 14 22:03:19 retry please Jul 14 22:03:29 alright, fine. Jul 14 22:03:34 It nearly doubles the free space on /system Jul 14 22:03:40 by eliminating the cache partition Jul 14 22:03:53 (which is only used for OTA updates, which you'll no longer receive anyway) Jul 14 22:04:05 is there a way to actually exit running apps to free up resources? Jul 14 22:04:21 autojack: something like advanced task manager can kill processes Jul 14 22:04:27 you can kill them, but android will do that for you if you need more space. Jul 14 22:04:33 bleh, alright, I guess I'll give it a shot. Jul 14 22:04:34 OK Jul 14 22:04:40 vol, hang on a sec Jul 14 22:04:52 so when people say that installing x app made their device slow way down, the solution isn't just to exit apps. Jul 14 22:05:01 http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/ Jul 14 22:05:19 vol_: http://users.rhaamo.li/~luo/luo_Ion_2.6.27_11.07.2009_ROTATE_SIGNED.zip Jul 14 22:05:22 no. the problem is that X app is running as a service or something Jul 14 22:05:34 lamusic: thanks. Jul 14 22:05:34 oh Jul 14 22:05:40 You want to make sure you have the latest radio flashed first (I think the ION may already have it, just a G1 thing) otherwise flashing the 1.33.2005 SPL can be very bad :) Jul 14 22:05:42 vol_: wipe 2 time, wipe and re wipe, and install this please Jul 14 22:05:55 I wish someone could find a way to get Android running on the new SK LX. Jul 14 22:06:06 I miss the additional buttons. Jul 14 22:06:09 Igashu: does it matter whether I am running G or H for this? Jul 14 22:07:15 You mean, currently? If you're trying to flash a Hero system, you really should be using the latest JACHero build. The one that Haykuro released is now months old. Jul 14 22:07:33 so, hold on. I'm in fastboot, and it says "SAPPHIRE PVT 32B DEV S-ON G" and "HBOOT-1.33.3004 (SAPP30000)" Jul 14 22:07:46 ffs :\ Jul 14 22:08:59 so, just to be EXTRA SURE, http://code.google.com/p/sapphire-port-dream/ , 1.33.2005 on there is B or A Jul 14 22:09:38 i have this SPL Jul 14 22:10:09 http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Magic_Rooting Jul 14 22:11:07 Mine says DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF HBOOT-1.33.2005 Jul 14 22:11:23 if not run my rom , is the only difference with my phone Jul 14 22:11:38 you have an up to date radio iii suppose Jul 14 22:12:20 so, that is to say, B, vol :) Jul 14 22:13:20 and again, before flashing it, please make sure you have Baseband Version: 62.50S.20.17H_2.22.19.26I Jul 14 22:15:11 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534479 is the JACHero thread Jul 14 22:18:50 yeah, I have the right radio Jul 14 22:19:47 Anybody here used the Hero Chinese IME? Jul 14 22:20:18 that is to say, "Touch Input Chinese" Jul 14 22:22:16 hi all Jul 14 22:22:50 people from where can I found the documentation about adding language support in android? Jul 14 22:23:35 I want to translate android OS and add new language in sdk Jul 14 22:29:54 Fox_1_: http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2009/05/calling-all-developers-for-android.html Jul 14 22:29:59 argh not that Jul 14 22:30:07 w00t. openvpn on my g1 Jul 14 22:30:34 there was something on the blog about a call for translations Jul 14 22:32:23 iNoah: it's cool huh? :) Jul 14 22:32:35 I'm surprised nobody's finished up (or at least cobbled together) a GUI for it yet Jul 14 22:32:42 I may do that next Jul 14 22:32:57 Right now I'm just trying to get the up/down scripts set up right Jul 14 22:33:12 and an option for changing the default route to the tunnel Jul 14 22:34:24 I'm a total apk neophyte, but that seems like a good first project Jul 14 22:34:38 lamusic: nope. Jul 14 22:34:41 still not working. Jul 14 22:35:02 I installed 1.33.2005 Jul 14 22:35:14 I wiped, and wiped again Jul 14 22:35:17 then installed from sdcard Jul 14 22:35:32 now, I DID skip activating my account Jul 14 22:36:54 http://images.volmari.as/device.png Jul 14 22:36:56 this is what I see. Jul 14 22:37:05 the No Notifications part is because the screen has nothing to refresh with. Jul 14 22:37:42 @vol are you just trying to install a Hero build to check out or are you looking to install something specific? Jul 14 22:38:06 lol, this is how tired I am at the end of the day, I'm including the op @ in peoples' names Jul 14 22:38:22 I blame twitter Jul 14 22:38:34 Igashu: I'm trying to install lamusic's build Jul 14 22:38:35 always a safe bet, for anything really, iNoah Jul 14 22:38:41 the hero build just kept repeating on the startup animation. Jul 14 22:38:44 vol: gotcha, n/m then :) Jul 14 22:38:46 I'm going to go for htc-sapphire build then. Jul 14 22:38:54 frankly I'll settle for any rooted build that Actually Works. Jul 14 22:39:05 I recommend cyanogen's Jul 14 22:39:06 I'd try the latest Cyanogen build Jul 14 22:39:07 ffs hold on Jul 14 22:39:13 I have a cache mount Jul 14 22:39:21 what was someone saying I needed to change to not have that? Jul 14 22:40:45 hi all, i'm having an issue with some code that would be really quite simple in a standard jvm: http://pastebin.com/m1c8664e1 Jul 14 22:41:10 i get "the application has stopped unexpectedly". Jul 14 22:41:27 i am aiming to get "Tick" produced at around 1 second intervals Jul 14 22:41:37 (3 times) Jul 14 22:42:07 bizarrefish1: you need to be on the UI thread to modify the text view Jul 14 22:42:16 that's why you're getting an error Jul 14 22:42:34 vol_: ah, i sees. Jul 14 22:42:43 so, how do i stick code in thar? Jul 14 22:43:22 you'll want to use a Handler Jul 14 22:43:42 http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/Handler.html Jul 14 22:44:18 there's a tutorial on how to use this stuff but I'm at a loss to find it Jul 14 22:45:20 ah, thanks m8 Jul 14 22:47:11 you can also simply use View.post() Jul 14 22:55:33 yo Jul 14 22:56:04 how do i get an SD card to work in an AVD? Jul 14 22:59:42 ok, this sapphire build worked at least. Jul 14 23:04:45 what... the... fuck Jul 14 23:05:48 omg.. that shit totally sucked Jul 14 23:06:01 i finally got this crap working how it was supposed to work Jul 14 23:09:17 <_Auron|G1_> I found out about point sprites in opengl es 1.1 Jul 14 23:10:42 ok... maybe not Jul 14 23:13:46 wtf Jul 14 23:20:56 meh Jul 14 23:21:07 Wickednix, ping! Jul 14 23:22:11 * Wickednix says ping failed to reach user Wickednix Jul 14 23:22:21 <_Auron|G1_> 3 more weeks.. Jul 14 23:22:39 2 more hours Jul 14 23:22:53 <_Auron|G1_> my string drawing and menus shall be made this week. and additional enemies. Jul 14 23:22:54 You still in class? Jul 14 23:23:17 I start at 6 Jul 14 23:23:26 I go night class Jul 14 23:23:27 6- 10 Jul 14 23:23:27 _Auron|G1_, I still haven't seen any screens ;-) Jul 14 23:24:01 * Wickednix spins in circles Jul 14 23:25:20 i want tobe able to skype out from my phone Jul 14 23:25:42 i want to be able to play crysis from my phone Jul 14 23:26:17 having to use tethering (illegal) to do it,sucks Jul 14 23:26:39 yeah but theres no technical reason is what im getting at Jul 14 23:26:40 * Wickednix kicks GenericNode Jul 14 23:26:46 snadge: skype lite is available, however it uses your phone to make the call, not data afaik. Chats are data but Jul 14 23:26:48 keep dreaming Jul 14 23:26:52 <_Auron|G1_> GenericNode: I make videos Jul 14 23:26:58 <_Auron|G1_> they're on youtube Jul 14 23:27:11 name of title? Jul 14 23:27:14 or link Jul 14 23:27:23 <_Auron|G1_> Stroids Jul 14 23:27:27 dreaming? fuckthat.. sipdroid does it Jul 14 23:27:34 link or its not true Jul 14 23:27:44 <_Auron|G1_> it'll be under stroids bg effect and stroids score and score Jul 14 23:27:51 <_Auron|G1_> score and swarm sorry Jul 14 23:28:24 i want skype to do it :P Jul 14 23:28:29 <_Auron|G1_> score and swarm is latest video. most of the demonstration is commentary on the game's work Jul 14 23:30:06 Looks interesting _Auron|G1_ Jul 14 23:30:20 It reminds me of Geometry Wars Jul 14 23:30:23 looks like shit to me Jul 14 23:30:24 which if fantastic. Jul 14 23:30:26 lmao Jul 14 23:30:34 <_Auron|G1_> liar aakash Jul 14 23:30:39 lols Jul 14 23:30:43 i joke, i joke Jul 14 23:30:47 _Auron|G1_, that looks sick. You've got my money when it's released. Jul 14 23:30:50 <_Auron|G1_> :P Jul 14 23:31:13 <_Auron|G1_> GenericNode: I'm entering it in google's android developer challenge Jul 14 23:31:20 <_Auron|G1_> you can try it when voting starts Jul 14 23:33:20 _Auron|G1_ Enough chatting, get back to work Jul 14 23:33:33 <`vip> Looks good, _Auron Jul 14 23:34:05 <_Auron|G1_> thanks Jul 14 23:34:51 <_Auron|G1_> I'll make sure to have really good gameplay music and funky/crazy sound effects with it too Jul 14 23:34:57 lol Jul 14 23:35:01 he speaks the truth Jul 14 23:35:08 da music is sweet Jul 14 23:35:43 ok time for me to get ready for class Jul 14 23:35:48 asta Jul 14 23:35:49 <_Auron|G1_> hf Jul 14 23:36:36 <_Auron|G1_> once I get the menu system in I'll start focusing on enemies, bosses, sound, and achievements Jul 14 23:38:13 <_Auron|G1_> as for my game engine I'll release code for it in december, and in 2010 my game engine will have network game code Jul 14 23:38:30 <_Auron|G1_> game engine being my android opengl es engine Jul 14 23:40:49 <_Auron|G1_> I'm aiming for Stroids to be under 2mb for release Jul 14 23:40:58 <_Auron|G1_> with everything Jul 14 23:41:28 o.O Jul 14 23:41:33 damn, so professional Jul 14 23:41:54 wait Jul 14 23:42:02 _Auron|G1_: youre not goign to sell the game? Jul 14 23:42:53 <_Auron|G1_> depends on adc2 results and how I feel about selling it Jul 14 23:43:41 <_Auron|G1_> I'd like to profit off of it but I'd feel bad about selling it if I won in adc2 Jul 14 23:44:00 ... Jul 14 23:44:05 "if i won the adc2" Jul 14 23:44:06 FIAL Jul 14 23:44:49 <_Auron|G1_> I'm also thinking about what my next game will be Jul 14 23:45:15 <_Auron|G1_> could revive my old space elements project idea from 5 years ago Jul 14 23:46:15 <_Auron|G1_> or start on Estoria, but that game I'd rather work on for PC. not sure Jul 14 23:46:33 make it for mac :X Jul 14 23:47:09 <_Auron|G1_> I hate apple Jul 14 23:47:12 <_Auron|G1_> so no Jul 14 23:47:20 h8r Jul 14 23:47:22 lol Jul 14 23:47:35 make it for linsux Jul 14 23:47:41 loller Jul 14 23:48:07 <_Auron|G1_> I don't enjoy using or doing much with linux Jul 14 23:48:13 How can you tell I'm 13 by what i'm typing???!!!! Jul 14 23:48:21 lmao Jul 14 23:48:23 i read this one Jul 14 23:49:20 <_Auron|G1_> ideally I'd like a game developer job from adc2 but I don't know that Stroids is that good enough Jul 14 23:49:53 i'll bet it is :P Jul 14 23:49:54 <_Auron|G1_> I'm a perfectionist whore though Jul 14 23:50:03 then you should have a mac XD Jul 14 23:50:08 <_Auron|G1_> I refuse to release anything that isn't high quality Jul 14 23:50:25 <_Auron|G1_> no Jul 14 23:50:35 <_Auron|G1_> apple preys on the weak minds of the world Jul 14 23:50:42 ... Jul 14 23:50:45 Thanks :P Jul 14 23:50:45 haha Jul 14 23:50:59 <_Auron|G1_> I didn't say anything about you Jul 14 23:51:06 <_Auron|G1_> just apple Jul 14 23:51:12 :) Jul 14 23:51:46 i would run linux if they light sensor for the keyboard, and screen worked (way) better on linux Jul 14 23:52:02 so i'm going through the notepad tutorial Jul 14 23:52:09 are you all android programmers Jul 14 23:52:15 no Jul 14 23:52:15 not me Jul 14 23:52:21 who's on the latest JAC hero? Jul 14 23:52:31 AakashPatel: light sensor for the keyboard? how's that related to linux? Jul 14 23:52:38 it's related directly. Jul 14 23:52:39 <_Auron|G1_> I'm a game programmer, android is just a gateway for me Jul 14 23:52:56 i see Jul 14 23:52:58 auron Jul 14 23:53:05 u shuold make a multi-touch pressure sensitive game for android Jul 14 23:53:22 <_Auron|G1_> which would only be useful for rooted phones Jul 14 23:53:27 yeah Jul 14 23:53:32 <_Auron|G1_> with certain firmwares Jul 14 23:53:35 yep Jul 14 23:53:40 <_Auron|G1_> which is <5% of the userbase Jul 14 23:53:43 yep Jul 14 23:53:44 auron what games do you make Jul 14 23:53:49 do you use OpenGL with android? Jul 14 23:53:51 <_Auron|G1_> fun ones Jul 14 23:53:52 <_Auron|G1_> yes Jul 14 23:53:59 what's ur dev name Jul 14 23:54:01 so i can search u Jul 14 23:54:03 i've only tried OpenGL once before Jul 14 23:54:14 <_Auron|G1_> I haven't release anything yet Jul 14 23:54:31 <_Auron|G1_> making a game for android developer challenge 2 Jul 14 23:54:43 what kind of game? Jul 14 23:54:45 when are submissions due for that? Jul 14 23:54:48 _Auron|G1_: how's your engine coming along? Jul 14 23:55:22 i'm a noooob so far, only average knowledge of java Jul 14 23:55:29 <_Auron|G1_> romainguy: good. I might use point sprites for the bg effect so it'll barely affect the framerate Jul 14 23:55:40 nice Jul 14 23:55:48 did you fix the grid pattern that was showing in one of your videos? Jul 14 23:55:59 link to videos?? Jul 14 23:56:27 <_Auron|G1_> look up Stroids Score and Swarm on youtube Jul 14 23:56:45 hey is it possible to charge my g1 with a regular usb cable? Jul 14 23:56:47 <_Auron|G1_> romainguy: I might keep it as is. the grid pattern looks cool Jul 14 23:56:52 ^^ Jul 14 23:56:58 <_Auron|G1_> it's an accidental bump mapping effect Jul 14 23:56:59 I left my g1 usb cable and charger at home but my phone is getting a bit low on batteries from excessive use Jul 14 23:57:09 Haraken: yes you can Jul 14 23:57:17 sweet Jul 14 23:57:17 (use the usb cable to charge the pone) Jul 14 23:57:18 phone Jul 14 23:57:44 cool effects Jul 14 23:57:46 <_Auron|G1_> might disappear if I switch to point sprites Jul 14 23:57:46 * warewolf starts compiling master Jul 14 23:58:19 somebody should update the "how to build for dream" page to mention that the dream kernel repo isn't platform/vendor/htc/dream, but dream-open Jul 14 23:58:30 er Jul 14 23:58:34 s/kernel// Jul 14 23:58:37 yeah we know :) Jul 14 23:58:39 sorry Jul 14 23:58:44 crap now if i could only find that cable I had at work Jul 14 23:59:48 <_Auron|G1_> my ideal game development is toward large audiences and making games fun for everyone but not giving a childish appearance (like nintendo..) Jul 15 00:00:31 good, hopefully more people will be like you instead of companies like gameloft shitting out games that run at like 5 fps Jul 15 00:00:34 auron the game looks really cool Jul 15 00:00:35 aww wtf Jul 15 00:00:38 make: execvp: /bin/bash: Argument list too long Jul 15 00:00:40 <_Auron|G1_> Estoria is a dream game of mine that has 2.5D gameplay, beat-em up rpg that is open ended and dynamic Jul 15 00:00:40 and are the same rehashed game with different graphic sets Jul 15 00:00:53 sweet found it! Jul 15 00:01:12 <_Auron|G1_> but I feel Estoria would be too limited to be made for a cellphone Jul 15 00:02:09 <_Auron|G1_> dynamic item generation, huge customization for character equipment and appearance, and dynamic 'living' dialogue in npcs with dynamic quests Jul 15 00:04:09 <_Auron|G1_> instead of having static quests, there'd be quests that npcs create for you as conditions change. a village could be attack by a nearby camp or home of enemies Jul 15 00:04:38 <_Auron|G1_> a child could be kidnapped and the npc would want me to rescue him/her, or a villager Jul 15 00:04:51 <_Auron|G1_> the person I need to rescue could die Jul 15 00:05:07 ps3 XD Jul 15 00:05:55 <_Auron|G1_> you could bring them back or their corpse. you could kill all the enemies or leave a few and they'd end up regrouping Jul 15 00:06:18 <_Auron|G1_> I'd want to create an actual living game Jul 15 00:06:30 <_Auron|G1_> that is my desire for Estoria Jul 15 00:07:27 you're one creative guy :/ Jul 15 00:07:29 i cant think of shit Jul 15 00:07:38 <_Auron|G1_> I try Jul 15 00:08:38 <`vip> I need an app for AstroEmpires :l Jul 15 00:08:43 <_Auron|G1_> space elements was an idea of overhead view like stroids, but a space rpg with living ships Jul 15 00:09:00 <`vip> Need to be able to login and build up my QUEUE while im not at computer Jul 15 00:09:13 <`vip> Like, eve-online for android? Jul 15 00:09:16 <`vip> That would rock Jul 15 00:09:30 <_Auron|G1_> open ended space with different elemental ships, factions, and abilities Jul 15 00:09:54 <_Auron|G1_> I don't want to make an mmo Jul 15 00:11:08 <_Auron|G1_> similar to a spaceship game that had 5 sectors and you had to rebuild this dimensional traveling machine Jul 15 00:11:23 <_Auron|G1_> you retreated to a space station called the aegis in it Jul 15 00:11:26 tradewars? Jul 15 00:11:33 <_Auron|G1_> no Jul 15 00:11:55 goddamnit Jul 15 00:12:00 this shit is like absolute torture Jul 15 00:12:01 BUT Jul 15 00:12:07 i think i got it working :) Jul 15 00:12:16 orly? Jul 15 00:13:05 i hope :) Jul 15 00:13:10 i called comcast like 10 times Jul 15 00:13:10 haha Jul 15 00:13:22 i'll give them the last one though Jul 15 00:13:24 that one was my fault haha Jul 15 00:13:37 <_Auron|G1_> but uh in estoria, dynamic weather could have a storm that damages/destroys someone's home and a quest would be generated to help them fix/rebuild it Jul 15 00:14:02 Macer: lol what were you telling them to do? Jul 15 00:15:40 <_Auron|G1_> also a dynamic skill and magic system Jul 15 00:16:14 <_Auron|G1_> creating a fireball spell would involve mixing fire and air elements (air for movement, fire for base damage) Jul 15 00:17:06 <_Auron|G1_> and altering elemental strengths for mana usage, speed, damage, etc Jul 15 00:17:18 lols wtf Jul 15 00:17:22 thinking outloud? Jul 15 00:17:25 heh Jul 15 00:17:34 <_Auron|G1_> already thought of this stuff Jul 15 00:17:36 <_Auron|G1_> just sharing Jul 15 00:18:10 <_Auron|G1_> brb Jul 15 00:20:03 what are you babbling about _Auron_ Jul 15 00:20:11 or _Auron|G1_ I suppose Jul 15 00:20:26 <_Auron|G1_> game ideas Jul 15 00:20:38 <_Auron|G1_> mostly about Project Dark Jul 15 00:20:45 hello Jul 15 00:20:57 <_Auron|G1_> which I think will be called Estoria Jul 15 00:20:58 makes sense Jul 15 00:21:11 oh, i like Project Dark Jul 15 00:21:20 <_Auron|G1_> Estoria being a play on the word Story Jul 15 00:21:51 we gonna start working on that soon? Jul 15 00:22:06 <_Auron|G1_> I dunno Jul 15 00:22:18 <_Auron|G1_> I'm trying to decie what to work on after Stroids Jul 15 00:22:37 <_Auron|G1_> I'm in a continuous programming phase now Jul 15 00:22:51 <_Auron|G1_> I don't want to stop more than a week Jul 15 00:23:04 <_Auron|G1_> decide* Jul 15 00:23:19 I know.. Jul 15 00:23:21 Stroids2! Jul 15 00:23:29 <_Auron|G1_> not this soon Jul 15 00:23:42 1.5? Jul 15 00:23:47 <_Auron|G1_> stroids 2 will have 3d aspects to it though Jul 15 00:23:58 <_Auron|G1_> still 2d. but 3d. Jul 15 00:24:08 <_Auron|G1_> hard to explain :) Jul 15 00:24:16 I get it. sorta :) Jul 15 00:24:48 <_Auron|G1_> basically playing inside of a sphere that has several layers of paper inside of it Jul 15 00:25:26 <_Auron|G1_> you move around the walls of the inner sphere AND those pieces of paper Jul 15 00:25:54 <_Auron|G1_> but not too complicated at the same time Jul 15 00:26:23 <_Auron|G1_> it'd allow for mutiple game modes Jul 15 00:27:58 damnit Jul 15 00:28:22 <_Auron|G1_> Macer what are you doing? Jul 15 00:28:37 tryin to have babies Jul 15 00:29:24 <_Auron|G1_> lol Jul 15 00:29:28 shit! Jul 15 00:29:29 not hard Jul 15 00:29:31 it died on me again Jul 15 00:29:33 there is no way Jul 15 00:29:36 this has to be a comcast issue Jul 15 00:29:40 lol Jul 15 00:29:41 yea Jul 15 00:29:43 it died over here Jul 15 00:29:46 Unable to connect Jul 15 00:30:29 <`vip> What are you guys doing ? Jul 15 00:30:35 It. Jul 15 00:30:43 AakashPatel: dude Jul 15 00:30:46 i have no idea wtf is wrong Jul 15 00:30:49 it has to be comcast Jul 15 00:30:51 <_Auron|G1_> also Estoria's main quests and beginnings would be different everytime Jul 15 00:30:57 Macer: dewd Jul 15 00:31:00 it was workign for like 30 minutes Jul 15 00:31:04 then just died for no apparent reason Jul 15 00:31:07 Macer pm me Jul 15 00:31:33 <_Auron|G1_> sometimes you'd start in a cave, in jail, in bed, in a forest, etc Jul 15 00:32:28 <_Auron|G1_> or as an important figure in the world Jul 15 00:34:03 huh? Jul 15 00:35:32 <_Auron|G1_> Estoria Jul 15 00:35:49 he's rambling lol Jul 15 00:39:57 <_Auron_> maybe Jul 15 00:54:04 anyone use youmail? Jul 15 00:54:41 yup Jul 15 00:54:42 never heard of it Jul 15 00:55:07 i like it better then phonefusion Jul 15 00:55:26 * darweth will wait for the official TMobile visual voicemail for now Jul 15 00:55:35 * darweth will try a third party approach if it will cost extra Jul 15 00:55:48 * darweth barely gets voicemail anyway Jul 15 00:56:07 what i like about youmail is the online call log Jul 15 00:56:14 and the custom greetings for each person Jul 15 00:56:39 oh yeah plus it emails the vm in mp3 format for easy moving and storage Jul 15 00:56:42 Can you easily disable these tools to switch back to TMobile's voicemail? I always read comments about ppl complaining about that, but I don't know if they are just idiots. Jul 15 00:56:51 i use my voicemail alot Jul 15 00:56:56 there just idiots Jul 15 00:57:10 all u do to enable is forward your calls Jul 15 00:57:16 well no answer calls Jul 15 00:57:26 and u undo it to undo Jul 15 00:57:31 so forward and unforward Jul 15 00:57:35 Cool. Maybe I will try youmail. Jul 15 00:58:04 the youmail app for android also has an option in its menu that reverts your call forwarding back to t-mobile Jul 15 00:58:13 so if you don't like it, resetting things could not be easier Jul 15 00:58:25 yup Jul 15 00:58:39 but to make it active activates the same way as phonefusion Jul 15 00:58:40 *004*17142043114# Jul 15 00:58:52 the *004 is conditional call forwarding Jul 15 00:59:06 and the 714 is the number its forwarding to Jul 15 01:18:14 Can I really not build Android from source with out Sun's java 5 JRE? Jul 15 01:18:22 OpenJDK or Icedtea does not work? Jul 15 01:18:42 tpocra: maybe, have you tried? Jul 15 01:20:58 tpocra: It gives you some errors, but I forget what they are. Jul 15 01:21:05 heh Jul 15 01:21:11 anyone tried liveandroid Jul 15 01:22:07 Helllllooooo Jul 15 01:22:41 Darkrift2: Ping Jul 15 01:22:52 ? Jul 15 01:22:55 PM? Jul 15 01:23:01 woah Jul 15 01:23:07 my edge upload spped is .8Kb/s Jul 15 01:23:11 lol and .19mb/s download Jul 15 01:23:13 sweet Jul 15 01:23:30 Why would they still be measuring in mb at that level? Jul 15 01:24:10 i gotta go Jul 15 01:24:20 Meh, alright. Jul 15 01:25:06 http://www.speedtest.net/result/517566857.png Jul 15 01:25:10 lols Jul 15 01:26:11 I would love you forever if you shared your phone's connection with an xbox and went on Halo. Jul 15 01:26:36 hahaha Jul 15 01:26:47 500 ms lag Jul 15 01:34:53 Macer my router froze :) Jul 15 01:35:05 like it usually does lol Jul 15 01:36:28 lol Jul 15 01:36:36 i didnt have to apply that kernel update Jul 15 01:36:40 for wifi tether Jul 15 01:36:44 and it worked Jul 15 01:48:37 hey i'm about to flash cyanogens recovery. how can i confirm that it worked? Jul 15 02:11:59 Lieu10ant: boot into recovery mode? Jul 15 02:12:01 :P Jul 15 02:14:30 AakashPatel yo i was browsing android forum stuff at work today Jul 15 02:14:33 and i found some random forum you posted a reply to Jul 15 02:14:43 i forget what it was... i think it was that bloo facebook app thingy Jul 15 02:14:52 does that shit work? where you have to set all the permissions & shit ? Jul 15 02:14:53 <_yoyo> adb install SoftKey.apk, go into setting->locale & text, but no inputmethod in there, why? Jul 15 02:14:58 jpa--: yeah Jul 15 02:15:11 i use it right now :) Jul 15 02:15:19 nice Jul 15 02:15:22 does it work with facebook chat ? Jul 15 02:15:26 nah Jul 15 02:15:28 not yet Jul 15 02:15:46 meh Jul 15 02:15:49 jpa--: he does frequent updates though Jul 15 02:15:58 each one is filled iwht new features XD Jul 15 02:16:00 yeah it looked like the dude was pretty active Jul 15 02:16:16 but he doesnt know how to reply to emails haha Jul 15 02:16:25 someone should rip and upload the android IRC apk that has mIRC colors :( Jul 15 02:16:36 i got an older rip from the maker of Android IRC cuz he knows we don't get paid apps in canada Jul 15 02:16:39 but before he updated with more shit : Jul 15 02:16:42 jpa--: *cough* droidappz Jul 15 02:16:51 haha yeah they just have old versions Jul 15 02:16:56 oh Jul 15 02:17:02 it has new version of ble hehe Jul 15 02:17:04 blu* Jul 15 02:17:11 yeah thats where i was looking today Jul 15 02:17:21 oh oops... the dev for android iRC is in here Jul 15 02:17:21 hi again.. and thanks :) Jul 15 02:17:30 hahaha Jul 15 02:17:53 i love this app so much i want to hump his leg Jul 15 02:17:59 hahaha Jul 15 02:18:04 just black background & grey font gets hard on the eyes on this phone. Jul 15 02:18:08 have you treied the androidirce.net one? Jul 15 02:18:12 :P Jul 15 02:18:15 androidirc.net * Jul 15 02:18:28 eh? Jul 15 02:18:28 no Jul 15 02:18:45 hi jpa-- Jul 15 02:18:59 lmao, dont tell me he is the dev Jul 15 02:18:59 hey zelrikriando, how goes? Jul 15 02:19:22 hahaha nope Jul 15 02:22:15 zelrikriando: have you heard anything about htis JACHero rom or whatever? Jul 15 02:22:24 no Jul 15 02:22:28 jpa--: what is it Jul 15 02:22:38 lol Jul 15 02:22:40 i was hoping you'd know :P Jul 15 02:22:45 and thats when you change the topic Jul 15 02:22:48 i think it's another Hero rom Jul 15 02:23:08 hence the jacHERO part Jul 15 02:23:29 yeah the recovery hadn't changed, i guess it didn't work Jul 15 02:23:31 but i got it to work now Jul 15 02:23:53 err whoa, confusing Jul 15 02:23:59 Lieu10ant is talking in both #android on efnet, and freenode Jul 15 02:24:02 hi Lieu10ant haha Jul 15 02:24:05 lol Jul 15 02:24:11 hello Jul 15 02:24:14 that place is dead when im in it Jul 15 02:25:19 same Jul 15 02:25:19 usually Jul 15 02:25:20 depends on hours Jul 15 02:25:29 woahhhhhh Jul 15 02:25:31 dude Jul 15 02:25:38 how do i get past this spam shit Jul 15 02:25:41 only 49 ppl in there Jul 15 02:25:43 what spam shit ? Jul 15 02:25:48 <_yoyo> how to install one new inputmethod and how to make it appear in setting->locale&text, help Jul 15 02:26:03 jpa--: hold on Jul 15 02:27:09 http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9045/picture1cfe.png Jul 15 02:27:12 ^^taht shit Jul 15 02:27:22 oh wait Jul 15 02:27:24 hahahha Jul 15 02:27:28 im a dumb fuck Jul 15 02:28:13 ...i cant read it Jul 15 02:28:42 jpa--: ...wtf Jul 15 02:29:53 hahaha it's not spam Jul 15 02:29:53 it's the server welcome msg Jul 15 02:29:59 no Jul 15 02:30:02 all servers have some sort of random ascii thing Jul 15 02:30:03 i mean spam protection Jul 15 02:30:04 doesn't show up to well on android IRC Jul 15 02:30:07 and no they dont :) Jul 15 02:30:10 lol Jul 15 02:30:14 k wtf Jul 15 02:30:17 oh wait Jul 15 02:30:29 the "to complete your connection to this server" cookie shit ? Jul 15 02:30:36 yea Jul 15 02:30:44 never seen that before Jul 15 02:30:46 wtf server you trying to connect to ? Jul 15 02:30:55 irc.efnet.org? Jul 15 02:30:59 haha weird Jul 15 02:31:01 it didn't show up properly because u weren't using the proper font Jul 15 02:31:07 thats BS Jul 15 02:31:07 its irc.efnet.net Jul 15 02:31:13 ohhhhh' Jul 15 02:31:18 u need to use font that has the same spaced characters Jul 15 02:31:23 hahaha Jul 15 02:31:28 that old schol type of font. Jul 15 02:31:31 use connectbot, stop using android irc Jul 15 02:31:38 fuck connectbot Jul 15 02:31:39 android irc pwns Jul 15 02:31:43 it's called monospaced font Jul 15 02:31:43 is connetbot good? Jul 15 02:31:45 or fixed width Jul 15 02:31:47 there we go Jul 15 02:31:47 yea Jul 15 02:31:49 thanks for that lol Jul 15 02:31:51 if android irc doesn't use it Jul 15 02:31:54 that program can diaff Jul 15 02:31:54 ahh there we go :) Jul 15 02:31:58 also - just try connecting to another efnet server. and you'll be fine Jul 15 02:32:06 i was on efnet all day from android irc heh Jul 15 02:32:06 works fine Jul 15 02:32:10 does android irc not use a mono spaced font? Jul 15 02:32:17 say yes so i have another reason to hate it Jul 15 02:32:23 :D Jul 15 02:32:43 zOMG i'm so excited! hero is loading! Jul 15 02:32:45 haha never Jul 15 02:32:47 android IRC is a great app Jul 15 02:32:49 lieu10ant: good luck Jul 15 02:32:49 why don't you like it? Jul 15 02:32:49 how do i check to see which version i have? Jul 15 02:32:53 Lieu10ant: eheh Jul 15 02:32:56 Lieu10ant: haha nice.. which rom you use? Jul 15 02:32:56 lol Jul 15 02:33:00 have fun overclocking the cpu, using swapper, doing everything in your possibility to have it run REASONABLE Jul 15 02:33:03 Lieu10ant: how did you manage Jul 15 02:33:06 JAC 2.63 Jul 15 02:33:14 grindking: why are you being so fucking negative toward everything? Jul 15 02:33:14 rough day? Jul 15 02:33:15 jpa--: personally, because i can just connect to my main irc client Jul 15 02:33:23 but a lot of people dont have a separate machine which has irc already going on it Jul 15 02:33:29 Lieu10ant: give feedback on it :p Jul 15 02:33:33 jpa--: nah, i'm always negative towards a lot involving android Jul 15 02:33:34 i did Jul 15 02:33:35 i will haha Jul 15 02:33:37 then i didnt Jul 15 02:33:41 no official apps to sd Jul 15 02:33:44 grindking: haha apparently Jul 15 02:33:45 probably no official flash on g1 Jul 15 02:33:47 Lieu10ant: I have a Hero rom, maybe not the best one Jul 15 02:33:47 maybe go to #iphone? Jul 15 02:33:53 3mb max uploads to youtube Jul 15 02:33:56 the list goes on and on and on and on Jul 15 02:34:01 ima tweet that shit. Jul 15 02:34:01 Tweet: It's Loading. Jul 15 02:34:03 hero runs great on my htc magic - I just don't use touchflo Jul 15 02:34:05 zelrikriando: fatal1tys rom is the best one so far confirmed working for rogers Jul 15 02:34:09 we should both get on trying other ones to test'em out Jul 15 02:34:11 google earth works on iphone but not android Jul 15 02:34:17 instead of immediately treat fatal1tys rom like it's crack Jul 15 02:34:18 which is fuckn retarded Jul 15 02:34:24 is this 'fatal1ty' the famed pro gamer? Jul 15 02:34:28 or is it another fatal1ty Jul 15 02:34:35 probably another Jul 15 02:34:38 figures Jul 15 02:34:41 the famed pro android dev :P Jul 15 02:34:42 i knew that douche couldn't code Jul 15 02:34:42 I'm using fatal1ty' hero 1.4 modified for rogers Jul 15 02:34:45 haha Jul 15 02:34:51 he's local to me lieu10ant Jul 15 02:34:52 so i hate him Jul 15 02:34:55 no way! Jul 15 02:34:59 the original fatal1ty was Jul 15 02:35:02 the gamer? Jul 15 02:35:02 the gamer Jul 15 02:35:04 yah Jul 15 02:35:05 olathe Jul 15 02:35:08 :0 Jul 15 02:35:10 dunno if he still lives here Jul 15 02:35:20 jpa Jul 15 02:35:21 wtf lol. did u ever beat him at cod4 or something? Jul 15 02:35:22 want me to be positive? Jul 15 02:35:30 the weather widget is one of the best designed widgets i've ever seen Jul 15 02:35:34 :) Jul 15 02:35:35 i'm thoroughly impressed Jul 15 02:35:39 it's also from windows mobile 6.1 Jul 15 02:35:39 heh Jul 15 02:35:40 but it's slow... Jul 15 02:35:41 right? Jul 15 02:35:41 i mean i have to be fair Jul 15 02:35:47 comparing an os that was released in sept 2007 Jul 15 02:35:50 to an os released in oct 2008 Jul 15 02:35:53 it's not really fair Jul 15 02:35:53 do you guys know of any websites that have android contracts for people that want to develop freelance projects? Jul 15 02:35:59 sweet, I just built master and appear to have it running in the emulator Jul 15 02:36:27 there needs to be a really definitive and properly used wiki or something like it for this chan Jul 15 02:36:33 xda dev is too messy to find stuff a lot of times imo Jul 15 02:36:51 android-dls was a start, but no one keeps it up Jul 15 02:36:53 agreed Jul 15 02:37:06 i miss old personal websites Jul 15 02:37:09 it's obviously a known problem how the informatioin is OUT there Jul 15 02:37:12 now all the internet is is a bunch of forums and blogs Jul 15 02:37:15 but you gotta be WANTING whatever it is you want to find that info Jul 15 02:37:25 yah i mean, i thought the internet was a series of tubes Jul 15 02:37:26 where did that go Jul 15 02:37:27 har har Jul 15 02:37:35 lol Jul 15 02:37:38 whups, how come my /data is 0 bytes free Jul 15 02:37:46 lol Jul 15 02:37:47 gameover Jul 15 02:37:48 dont turn ur phone off Jul 15 02:37:49 bricked Jul 15 02:37:49 i just tried to attach a picture to an sms Jul 15 02:37:51 my phone rebooted Jul 15 02:37:54 that's a cute feature Jul 15 02:37:58 hahaha Jul 15 02:38:00 grindking hahaha Jul 15 02:38:02 what rom? Jul 15 02:38:03 how do you log that Jul 15 02:38:06 jf 1.5 Jul 15 02:38:13 weird Jul 15 02:38:18 ive heard nothing but good things about that one Jul 15 02:38:26 honestly i think sometimes these apps are like 'am i connected to wifi, or normal 3g/edge' Jul 15 02:38:28 which is the JF ? Jul 15 02:38:44 the weather widget is tyhe best thing i think i've ever installed Jul 15 02:38:46 ... the one that starts with J Jul 15 02:38:47 and ends with F Jul 15 02:38:51 im usually STRUGGLING to see date, or time or WEATHER Jul 15 02:39:00 which weather widget is it? Jul 15 02:39:01 whats it called? Jul 15 02:39:09 did i show you my notification bar ??? Jul 15 02:39:09 or is it the HTC weather widget that comes with hero ? Jul 15 02:39:09 weather widget Jul 15 02:39:12 its amazing :P Jul 15 02:39:15 grindking: yeh i wonder about the 3g / wifi stuff. it need to write something to tell you which one is being acccessed Jul 15 02:39:15 it's a pay app but i use that donate version and don't donate Jul 15 02:39:21 what's so amazing about i ? Jul 15 02:39:21 it Jul 15 02:39:22 show Jul 15 02:39:30 cuz it has that flipclock time Jul 15 02:39:30 http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4099/devicej.png Jul 15 02:39:32 * jpa-- just turns wifi off Jul 15 02:39:33 so i can see it really fast Jul 15 02:39:35 i never use wifi Jul 15 02:39:36 always 3g Jul 15 02:39:38 im tethered right now ffs Jul 15 02:39:39 :P Jul 15 02:39:44 i got all of that to show at once Jul 15 02:39:45 my basement is the worst Jul 15 02:39:46 3g is $$$ in aus Jul 15 02:39:48 i have 4 places i can sit my phone Jul 15 02:39:50 all the icons that are on the right side Jul 15 02:39:50 to get signal Jul 15 02:39:52 internet in quebec is a RIPOFF Jul 15 02:39:57 if they aren't sat in those exact places, and i'm talking exat angle Jul 15 02:39:59 they won't get signal Jul 15 02:40:01 and i got hooked up by my cell phone provider on my cell plan Jul 15 02:40:02 so w00t Jul 15 02:40:12 if i had a laptop that ran without ac Jul 15 02:40:14 i'd use tether Jul 15 02:40:24 but i just go to my main irc client from connectbot Jul 15 02:40:26 this client :D Jul 15 02:40:28 hey Jul 15 02:40:29 in the installer Jul 15 02:40:31 which client? Jul 15 02:40:34 firc? Jul 15 02:40:34 irssi Jul 15 02:40:36 oh weird Jul 15 02:40:40 connectbot + irssi Jul 15 02:40:46 no clue what connectbot even is Jul 15 02:40:48 it takes a phone + computer though Jul 15 02:40:49 but i love android IRC Jul 15 02:40:49 o.O Jul 15 02:40:50 so i dont care Jul 15 02:40:53 lol Jul 15 02:40:54 jpa--: linux client Jul 15 02:40:56 or *nix client Jul 15 02:41:00 jpa--: ssl/telnet client Jul 15 02:41:01 on the "allow google's location service to collect anonymous and aggregate location data. collection will occur regardless of whetther applicaations are active." do i allow it or no? Jul 15 02:41:02 ahhh Jul 15 02:41:02 for the smart kids Jul 15 02:41:02 no thanks Jul 15 02:41:03 ssh* Jul 15 02:41:03 connectbot is ssh client Jul 15 02:41:10 and what does it need ti for? does it need it for local results for google? Jul 15 02:41:13 like i said.. that's for the smart kids Jul 15 02:41:15 ill stay dumb on android IRC Jul 15 02:41:19 ive been using linux for far too long to deem it something required to be smart Jul 15 02:41:23 especially with ubuntu Jul 15 02:41:29 that distro is personally responsible for the influx of moron users Jul 15 02:41:30 i wish i started using linux much longer ago Jul 15 02:41:39 i only first tried ubuntu like 2 years ago Jul 15 02:41:45 and i'm almost 26 now Jul 15 02:41:53 i think im 28 Jul 15 02:41:57 haha Jul 15 02:41:58 lets see Jul 15 02:42:01 1999? Jul 15 02:42:02 yah im 28 Jul 15 02:42:09 hahaha nice Jul 15 02:42:14 i dont really keep track of my age, i just keep track of the year Jul 15 02:42:21 since i was born in 80, 90 = 10, 2000 = 20 Jul 15 02:42:22 and so on Jul 15 02:42:30 .... Jul 15 02:42:31 what? Jul 15 02:42:33 but was born really late in the year, scorpio, so it can be sometimes a tease Jul 15 02:42:36 oh oh i see Jul 15 02:42:36 since i was born in 1980 Jul 15 02:42:39 1990 = 10 Jul 15 02:42:41 yeah i get it Jul 15 02:42:41 2000 = 20 Jul 15 02:42:42 etc Jul 15 02:42:48 that's how i do the memory thing haha Jul 15 02:43:13 honestly some of the things with runing linux these days are kind of funny Jul 15 02:43:17 at first it just looked like a bunch of numbers Jul 15 02:43:18 i dont do maths Jul 15 02:43:18 i don't have a monitor for that machine Jul 15 02:43:28 so anytime i could 'cheap out' and use the gui to figure something relatively simple Jul 15 02:43:35 i generally have to do some extra steps to make it work from cli Jul 15 02:43:43 i dont do math either Jul 15 02:43:48 well i do elementary math Jul 15 02:43:51 im a plumber these days :D Jul 15 02:44:12 so does anyone else here use youmail? Jul 15 02:44:15 for that visual voicemail Jul 15 02:44:55 i was considering that Jul 15 02:44:58 but became skeptical Jul 15 02:45:10 with Rogers Wireless, you need a special SOC on your acct for visual voicemail to even work with Iphone Jul 15 02:45:12 so i doubt it works well on android Jul 15 02:45:14 can anyone comment? Jul 15 02:45:38 rogers wireless Jul 15 02:45:48 why do these people have to use their name Jul 15 02:45:53 'Bob's connection' Jul 15 02:46:04 but you're on rogers? Jul 15 02:46:15 soooo!!! technically you could get that exchange active sync client right?!??! Jul 15 02:46:18 since your phone isn't branded google Jul 15 02:47:39 heh, it COMES with it Jul 15 02:52:03 zelrikriando, you end up getting the paid app market working? Jul 15 02:52:03 or even care to ? Jul 15 02:52:39 I d like to have it working at some point Jul 15 02:52:44 not rushing to it though Jul 15 02:53:19 market enabler.apk works Jul 15 02:53:28 just obviously its not free.. you actually have to pay Jul 15 02:53:37 i havent been able to get my credit card working yet tho Jul 15 02:53:42 market enabler is free... Jul 15 02:53:50 oh, you mean paid apps on market Jul 15 02:53:57 yup Jul 15 02:54:12 my bad.. wasn't very clear there Jul 15 02:55:13 wow ok, palringo, is a piece of shit Jul 15 02:55:33 * TommyBres uninstalls Jul 15 02:55:36 hahaha Jul 15 02:56:55 damn the vpn stuff is nice over the tethered g1 Jul 15 02:56:55 heh Jul 15 02:57:06 ssh in a vpn though.. talk about paranoid Jul 15 02:57:15 no clue what that shit mean Jul 15 02:57:17 on a vpn Jul 15 02:57:21 i just use a hacked version of pdanet Jul 15 02:57:23 fuck wifi Jul 15 02:57:33 i couldn't get wifi tethering to work for the LIFE of me Jul 15 02:57:34 huh? Jul 15 02:57:36 so i gave up before i killed myself Jul 15 02:57:39 really? Jul 15 02:57:47 all you need is root and the wifi tether app Jul 15 02:57:48 :) Jul 15 02:57:54 something about the Rogers HTC Magic kernel doesn't support netfilter or iptables Jul 15 02:58:01 takes a couple of minutes to kick in Jul 15 02:58:04 because i've both rooted, and used wifi tether Jul 15 02:58:05 and anetshare Jul 15 02:58:08 nope Jul 15 02:58:12 it turns on, connects Jul 15 02:58:17 wow Jul 15 02:58:18 that sucks Jul 15 02:58:19 shows up in my wireless networks Jul 15 02:58:19 heh Jul 15 02:58:21 but when i connect.. i dont get an ip Jul 15 02:58:26 ie: no netfilter/iptables Jul 15 02:58:27 or some shit Jul 15 02:58:32 thats waht the smart kids tell me, in any case Jul 15 02:58:57 figured the magic would be pretty close Jul 15 02:59:46 heya, I'm doing some newb development in eclipse, and I'm getting an error upon debugging: "Source not found" and "The JAR of this class file belongs to container 'Android 1.5' which does not allow modifications to source attachments on its entries." for ListView.class - what does this mean? Jul 15 02:59:49 to a dream Jul 15 02:59:50 or g1 Jul 15 02:59:51 heh **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jul 15 02:59:57 2009