**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jul 19 02:59:57 2009 Jul 19 03:00:07 :/ Jul 19 03:00:11 what one did you get twis10 Jul 19 03:00:14 do not try using the apps2sd app to partition, it bloze Jul 19 03:00:37 Wickednix: i got this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211379 Jul 19 03:00:40 I used terminal on my phone to make my part Jul 19 03:00:57 lol i didnt know you could Jul 19 03:01:05 Wickednix > me Jul 19 03:01:09 Wickednix: how? Jul 19 03:01:14 android has a partitioner? Jul 19 03:01:16 Nice, I got his lil brother Jul 19 03:01:17 o.o Jul 19 03:01:29 wait wait, I did it via adb Jul 19 03:01:35 ...same? Jul 19 03:01:37 lol Jul 19 03:01:46 Wickednix: i was thinking adb or just use my linux os Jul 19 03:02:20 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534714 is what I followed Jul 19 03:02:31 twois just use linux Jul 19 03:02:49 like you would with any other drive Jul 19 03:02:57 i am think 64mb swap, 1GB ext3 and 14+GB Fat Jul 19 03:03:16 youll never need that much ext Jul 19 03:03:19 I didnt add a swap drive. Jul 19 03:03:34 i have so many apps its ridiculous and im only using like 120mb Jul 19 03:03:42 I went 500mb 7.6gb Jul 19 03:03:59 id say 500mb tops, 1gb is a waste imo... but do watcha want Jul 19 03:04:05 I have an 8GB card now Jul 19 03:04:12 but only 2gb free Jul 19 03:04:12 <<<16 Jul 19 03:04:41 I couldnt justify getting a 16gb Jul 19 03:04:53 lol how not Jul 19 03:04:54 I never filled my 2gb Jul 19 03:05:01 no need to upgrade :) Jul 19 03:05:18 well now I have 4gb full Jul 19 03:05:19 well at times when am driving, i leave the video recorder on Jul 19 03:05:43 and i record high quality Jul 19 03:05:50 Wickednix: network storage is your friend :) Jul 19 03:06:03 I ditched my zune and put all my music on my sd Jul 19 03:06:21 Lianj I know I have a 1tb nas Jul 19 03:06:35 Wickednix: thats why i need the 16GB, all my music is there since am not a zune/ipod kinda guys Jul 19 03:06:43 i think the best justification of my 16gb is copilot gps Jul 19 03:07:01 north american maps alone take up a little less than 2gb Jul 19 03:07:03 I tb os Nas Jul 19 03:07:17 Nas has that many albulms? Jul 19 03:07:49 hah Jul 19 03:08:07 dude i had over 3 gigs of eminem before my laptop crashed, and not even all of his music Jul 19 03:08:19 but 1tb? i dunno... Jul 19 03:08:25 Buffalo TeraStation Home Server NAS (1TB) Jul 19 03:08:34 lmap Jul 19 03:08:36 ...get it? Jul 19 03:08:39 NAS? Jul 19 03:08:39 i cant type Jul 19 03:08:44 harrr Jul 19 03:08:45 lmao Jul 19 03:08:59 so not Nasir Jones Jul 19 03:09:05 lol Jul 19 03:09:25 lost all simpsons some days ago. reloaded them in 2 hours. since then deleted most of my pirated stuff since it continues to live on the nets anyways :D Jul 19 03:09:31 Network A. Storage Jul 19 03:09:54 were are the porn cites for the g1 Jul 19 03:10:01 how to remove the popup bubble when clicking softkeyboard? Jul 19 03:10:13 porn is a waste of time Jul 19 03:10:38 androidfan610, www.youporn.com Jul 19 03:10:44 unless of course you are watching with a mate Jul 19 03:10:50 porn is for when the wife is on strike Jul 19 03:11:02 twois10 thats so gay Jul 19 03:11:14 porn + another dude, nah Jul 19 03:11:16 TommyBres: what? Jul 19 03:11:22 twois10: as most android games ^^ you can choose now Jul 19 03:11:24 mate not as in dude Jul 19 03:11:41 lol Jul 19 03:11:42 haha oh okay Jul 19 03:11:46 your mate? Jul 19 03:11:50 OH, THAT Jul 19 03:12:03 i thought you were speaking by british standards ahaha Jul 19 03:12:22 TommyBres: what if that were the case Jul 19 03:12:29 i exchange one good porn app for all those silly games on the market! Jul 19 03:12:36 i thought the brits were very liberal Jul 19 03:12:49 it would be very awkward watching porn with a guy friend imo Jul 19 03:12:51 what are some good apps to download Jul 19 03:13:03 TommyBres: indeed Jul 19 03:13:11 Androidfan610 there are no good apps Jul 19 03:13:21 Androidfan610: connectbot Jul 19 03:13:23 get an iphone, it has all the good ones :) Jul 19 03:13:32 Androidfan610: robo defense is a good app Jul 19 03:13:42 most useful so far for real world usage Jul 19 03:14:08 robo denfence what is it like what does it do Jul 19 03:14:32 Androidfan610: you wont be able to put it down Jul 19 03:14:44 its a game Jul 19 03:14:46 $3 Jul 19 03:14:49 sick Jul 19 03:15:41 twois10: gave a friend robodefense for 15 min. he handed it back, after building his wall, and we watched the game run for 30 min and contiune loosing until it showed us that we won. funny game but way to easy :D Jul 19 03:16:04 too easy? lol Jul 19 03:16:10 lianj: what level? Jul 19 03:16:13 so i assume you have all the levels unlocked Jul 19 03:16:18 and all achievements Jul 19 03:16:29 oh, you dont? go do it and say its easy Jul 19 03:16:29 hm how much is ms charging for win7? Jul 19 03:16:31 $50? Jul 19 03:16:39 $0.50 macer Jul 19 03:16:49 i said win7.. not snow leopard Jul 19 03:16:52 * Macer grins Jul 19 03:16:55 lol Jul 19 03:17:01 umm xp was $190 Jul 19 03:17:06 vista similar Jul 19 03:17:14 highest level, i guess. only let some of those airplane flying bastards through.. Jul 19 03:17:18 why would you think $50 Jul 19 03:17:24 $139 Jul 19 03:17:31 lianj i mean difficulty level Jul 19 03:18:08 Macer: http://www.microsoftstore.com/s/windows7?WT.mc_id=pointitsem_win7_buy&WT.srch=1 Jul 19 03:18:10 Wickednix: thank you Jul 19 03:18:10 i can beat the 100 levels on difficulty level 0 with my eyes closed, but on level 40 not so much Jul 19 03:18:11 $50 for upgrade to basic win7 Jul 19 03:18:26 honestly didn't knwo they had it on their site yet Jul 19 03:18:29 figured someone might knwo Jul 19 03:18:30 normal/default - was the first play, but ran until last level, showing us we where winning Jul 19 03:18:45 wait, $50 to upgrade twois10? Jul 19 03:18:48 from vista? Jul 19 03:19:03 from any lower os to basic win7 Jul 19 03:19:10 its still one of the playable and nicly games on the market! well done Jul 19 03:19:30 its 119 to upgrade to basic win 7 Jul 19 03:19:34 wow really Jul 19 03:19:43 from win95 to win7 is $50? Jul 19 03:19:44 look at that link I posted Jul 19 03:19:58 wickednix thanks for confirming Jul 19 03:20:07 twois10 thanks for false hope Jul 19 03:20:12 :'( Jul 19 03:20:28 TommyBres: wait let me get the link Jul 19 03:20:37 i just installed the RTF version Jul 19 03:20:39 whatever that means :) Jul 19 03:20:51 i seriosuly hate that you can't use a classic "start" menu Jul 19 03:20:58 but i guess i can deal with that Jul 19 03:21:24 TommyBres: it ended http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/buy/offers/pre-order-ended.aspx Jul 19 03:21:47 * EugeneKay happily keeps using Windows 7 RC v7100 Jul 19 03:22:02 $0 beats $200 Jul 19 03:22:14 dammit Jul 19 03:22:20 I debating on getting snow leopard or staying with regular leo Jul 19 03:22:21 heh Jul 19 03:22:28 ultimate? not eXtreme (capital X) huh? Jul 19 03:22:33 you wont be able to get update with win7rc after march Jul 19 03:22:34 but look at the black box.. how l33t Jul 19 03:22:51 Wickednix - upgrade to Ubuntu >_> Jul 19 03:22:58 Wickednix: isn' tsnow leopard like.. $39? Jul 19 03:22:59 heh Jul 19 03:23:08 since all it really is is a leopard update now that they pulled zfs? Jul 19 03:23:18 dunno havent followed snow Jul 19 03:23:21 heh Jul 19 03:23:28 well. i heard it was going to be a very cheap upgrade Jul 19 03:23:30 Wickednix: just switched my girlfriend osx to leopard yesterday. keept using tiger until leopard snow was annonce and all went well. maybe better than switch to leopard at first day Jul 19 03:23:35 it shouldn't even be an update Jul 19 03:23:42 er.. upgrade.. it should just be a leopard update Jul 19 03:24:06 since it really doesn't do anythign spectacular other than add a few more stock 64bit apps Jul 19 03:24:19 I should delete my win 7 and put unbuntu on here Jul 19 03:24:52 why not just run both, 2 is better than 1 Jul 19 03:25:14 Macer: its cheap Jul 19 03:25:16 im out, lata Jul 19 03:25:17 29 bucks for an upgrade Jul 19 03:25:58 twois10: win7 is never 'better', its a bunch or freedom and money taken away from you :) Jul 19 03:26:08 s/or/of Jul 19 03:26:36 Windows 7 genuinely just *works* Jul 19 03:27:17 So does OS X Jul 19 03:27:19 XD Jul 19 03:27:33 .....on $5000 hardware Jul 19 03:27:38 Wickednix: i don't think win7 is that bad Jul 19 03:27:38 nahh Jul 19 03:27:45 * EugeneKay points and laughes at the overpriced Macs Jul 19 03:27:48 Apple is as bad as M$ Jul 19 03:27:48 although like i said Jul 19 03:27:50 more like $2700 hardware Jul 19 03:27:51 the start menu Jul 19 03:27:51 hah Jul 19 03:27:55 is driving me nuts! Jul 19 03:27:59 twois10: true :.( Jul 19 03:28:04 twois10: lies Jul 19 03:28:07 you can't put it into classic mode.. you are stuck with that stupid vista style menu Jul 19 03:28:23 with the buffer of last ran apps and all that other irrelevant garbage Jul 19 03:28:24 AakashPatel: true Jul 19 03:28:33 apple provides you with elegance XD Jul 19 03:28:46 twois10: since they scoped the cosumer as profit providers ^^ Jul 19 03:28:52 they are both proprietary beasts Jul 19 03:28:59 true Jul 19 03:29:02 but. Jul 19 03:29:03 nm Jul 19 03:29:05 :P Jul 19 03:29:28 you are forced to take the mark Jul 19 03:29:38 honestly i'm a little amped up to see what google chrome OS is going to offer Jul 19 03:29:41 i hope it is good :) Jul 19 03:29:43 twois10: have you tried running ubuntu on a macbook pro? Jul 19 03:29:54 AakashPatel: nope Jul 19 03:29:56 aww Jul 19 03:29:58 darn Jul 19 03:29:59 if it can composite and has a nice interface then i'd run it lol Jul 19 03:30:00 lol Jul 19 03:30:03 I just run linux Jul 19 03:30:05 i wanna eat some pussy Jul 19 03:30:10 ... Jul 19 03:30:13 on a pc Jul 19 03:30:15 AakashPatel: i did it on my macbook Jul 19 03:30:18 Macer: i hope it comes in a livecd like fashion, thats my biggest request Jul 19 03:30:20 it was shitty Jul 19 03:30:23 yeah :/ Jul 19 03:30:25 lianj: me too Jul 19 03:30:32 so you can at least not commit to it :) Jul 19 03:30:35 why would i want a macbook? Jul 19 03:30:45 although.. you an always just do a quick hd swap Jul 19 03:30:47 for beauty! Jul 19 03:30:48 lol Jul 19 03:30:49 but that would still suck ;) Jul 19 03:31:05 AakashPatel: then you need to see my destop Jul 19 03:31:07 Macer: grml-live like (http://grml.org/grml-live/ ) Jul 19 03:31:07 i think google will do a good job of it though Jul 19 03:31:10 pic Jul 19 03:31:11 now Jul 19 03:31:13 and ill tell you Jul 19 03:31:29 lmaoooo Jul 19 03:31:39 AakashPatel: black n blue, you cant go wrong there Jul 19 03:31:50 Macer: i read that as google will do a good hand job of it though Jul 19 03:33:54 twois10: wrong!! Jul 19 03:34:00 i can do it wrong right now lol Jul 19 03:34:09 lol Jul 19 03:34:13 ok do it Jul 19 03:34:22 Macer: i dont imagine its going to offer you anything you can't already do on your machine now. Jul 19 03:34:23 lemme look for something that i have thats black and blue Jul 19 03:34:25 oh wait! i dont! Jul 19 03:34:29 Macer: what are your expectations ? Jul 19 03:34:29 cuz it sucks! Jul 19 03:34:31 haha Jul 19 03:36:07 apple's hardware are too expensive Jul 19 03:36:12 true Jul 19 03:36:17 wmealing1: anything that isn't gnome, kde, windows or osx, and that runs well, can do 3d based stuff and is good on battery life on my touch book :) Jul 19 03:36:20 AakashPatel: me brought g1 of course of linux underlying the dalvik :} Jul 19 03:36:32 ? Jul 19 03:36:34 great? Jul 19 03:36:35 i cant wait until i can build my own notbook as we do desktop Jul 19 03:36:39 and i bought an ADP1 lol Jul 19 03:36:49 AakashPatel: still think that is a waste of money Jul 19 03:36:50 Macer: nothing will. Jul 19 03:36:50 haha Jul 19 03:36:55 wmealing1: lol! Jul 19 03:36:59 Macer: haha Jul 19 03:37:10 AakashPatel: meaning that chrome can suck, but they might bring a solid underlying system aswell Jul 19 03:37:11 wmealing1: yeah i guess i'll have to learn assembly and make my own os Jul 19 03:37:18 in the chrome os Jul 19 03:37:26 lianj: yeah. we can only wait and see Jul 19 03:37:26 $2,199.00 for a system with core 2 duo, are you kidding me? Jul 19 03:37:31 i won't judge untili see what they offer Jul 19 03:37:34 i'm sure it won't be too bad Jul 19 03:37:38 twois10: its a laptop! Jul 19 03:37:41 twois10: maccrap? Jul 19 03:37:42 what do you expect! Jul 19 03:37:46 Macer: put us on the mailing lists ;) Jul 19 03:37:50 aluminum Jul 19 03:37:50 yeah.. mac crap is a rip off Jul 19 03:37:52 AakashPatel: uh, doesn't matter, that's still expensive Jul 19 03:37:55 no, its a desktop AakashPatel Jul 19 03:38:01 heyyy Jul 19 03:38:02 woah Jul 19 03:38:05 i was talkin about laptops Jul 19 03:38:09 thier desktops are ripppp offfss Jul 19 03:38:09 AakashPatel: i can get a top of the line laptop for $1.3k Jul 19 03:38:13 twois10: you're paying $2000 for the designer apple case Jul 19 03:38:22 the rest is the internal hardware Jul 19 03:38:26 blahhh Jul 19 03:38:30 AakashPatel: well, apart from the quad core SLI'd video card dual SSD hard drive monstrousities Jul 19 03:38:33 * Macer grins Jul 19 03:38:46 systems hardware is finite, you can't do magic.. the work needs to be done somewhere. The 3d chips in most smaller laptops are lacking, no amount of design will make up for it. Jul 19 03:38:47 haha Macer Jul 19 03:38:51 my hardware is twice as better for less Jul 19 03:38:54 how bout this..."I LIKE OSX" Jul 19 03:39:03 nothin about the hardware Jul 19 03:39:05 happy :) Jul 19 03:39:48 Is happy Jul 19 03:40:01 i have a phenom II 940, radeon hd4890, 8Gb ddr2 ram Jul 19 03:40:14 great for you Jul 19 03:40:22 with a 26" lcd monitor all cost less Jul 19 03:40:25 gets the cookies out Jul 19 03:40:26 mac hardware fans also die. same problems as others. 2-3 years old mac should be sold on ebay before break down completly. - as in my experience Jul 19 03:40:38 Wickednix: lol i think you're forgetting the /me Jul 19 03:40:39 hm. i seem to be maxing out at 2.24MB/s from openoffice.org Jul 19 03:40:45 naw Jul 19 03:40:47 i dunno. this 22mbit doesn't seem that much faster Jul 19 03:40:56 the upstream does :) Jul 19 03:41:15 but the downstream seems the same... i can't remember if i had 12 or 16 but either way you would expect to see a rather noticable difference Jul 19 03:41:16 what name is the popup window when clicking softkeyboard? Jul 19 03:41:28 Macer: what do you pay for now? Jul 19 03:41:29 oh, dont forget, i also have a blueray burner Jul 19 03:41:33 isnt your modem f'ing it up? Jul 19 03:41:40 and it still cost less than the iMac Jul 19 03:41:57 AakashPatel: no Jul 19 03:42:00 i got the new modem today Jul 19 03:42:03 oh Jul 19 03:42:09 Macer - try linux isos via BitTorrent Jul 19 03:42:13 20 meg speeds? Jul 19 03:42:13 i pay for 22down 5up @ $89/month Jul 19 03:42:16 You can get *insane* downloads from 'em Jul 19 03:42:16 * Wickednix gives twios10 a big shinny star Jul 19 03:42:23 EugeneKay: hm... ok Jul 19 03:42:36 i don't have a torrent client on the win7 box ... i just installed Jul 19 03:42:37 DVDs are more consistant than the live CDs Jul 19 03:42:37 it's like a bubble, but i don't know what is the exact name? Jul 19 03:42:47 * twois10 accepts the star Jul 19 03:42:49 http://www.utorrent.com/ ftw Jul 19 03:42:54 i use that :D Jul 19 03:43:04 except i never get over 100KB/s Jul 19 03:43:06 :P Jul 19 03:43:16 i use ktorrent Jul 19 03:43:40 utorrent? haha Jul 19 03:43:50 * Macer was always an rtorrent fan Jul 19 03:43:53 i always end uploading 10x what i download Jul 19 03:43:53 * lianj starts backup/printing his mp3 archive as QR-codes - for fun Jul 19 03:43:56 and rtorrent ftw. Jul 19 03:43:58 transmission-daemon isn't too bad Jul 19 03:44:15 but rtorrent was the best one i used Jul 19 03:44:33 Macer: yeah Jul 19 03:44:35 going to see if virtualwin works on win7 heh Jul 19 03:44:44 * Caleb loves rtorrent Jul 19 03:44:53 maybe if i get rid of these 10,000 star tmenu options i can get back to a classic one Jul 19 03:45:00 misses rtorrent Jul 19 03:45:04 why the hell would they put so many options into a start menu? it's like enron accounting Jul 19 03:45:04 * lianj screen+rtorrent update since 2006 oO Jul 19 03:45:11 AakashPatel: by the way i do run OSx Jul 19 03:45:12 lianj: haha Jul 19 03:45:12 s/update/uptime Jul 19 03:45:17 same here Jul 19 03:45:18 has anyone here ordered an extended battery for the g1 from dealextreme? Jul 19 03:45:22 i had one going for over 2 years :) Jul 19 03:45:31 was pretty awesome Jul 19 03:45:41 especially when i found o7ut how to get it to auto move completed torrents and stop them Jul 19 03:45:44 Macer: a some point needed to set the update throttle ;) Jul 19 03:45:52 haha Jul 19 03:45:59 rigel - I have the Seidio whale-sized one off of Amazon. $55. Jul 19 03:46:02 yeah.. i always set it to around 10K/s for the upstream Jul 19 03:46:05 i was just a leech Jul 19 03:46:06 :) Jul 19 03:46:12 EugeneKay: its that big huh Jul 19 03:46:21 the one from dx is like $11 Jul 19 03:46:49 ive had good experiences with their li-ion batteries in the past, but those were just for flashlights Jul 19 03:47:09 s/update/uptime - again damn it. iam drunk. night guys Jul 19 03:47:25 s/update/upload whatever Jul 19 03:47:59 Yay drunk. Jul 19 03:48:51 SKU 27003, rigel ? Jul 19 03:49:15 If it's actually 2300mAh, it'll probably be about as good as my 2600mAh Seidio Jul 19 03:50:01 Macer: where did you get that watchman movie from? Jul 19 03:50:11 yeah, im more wondering about quality than anything Jul 19 03:50:43 It's DealExtreme Jul 19 03:50:56 You get what you pay for.... or you get a damned good deal. Jul 19 03:53:02 I have not download pirated movies in years Jul 19 03:53:32 speaking of Jul 19 03:53:40 what the heck is with the video player Jul 19 03:53:45 it cant seek worth a damn Jul 19 03:53:46 twois10: ??? Jul 19 03:54:04 i was wondering if he had the disc beoach Jul 19 03:54:08 or maybe i need a new app to do transcoding Jul 19 03:54:11 never mind Jul 19 03:54:26 currently using arista Jul 19 03:54:33 ffmpeg Jul 19 03:54:35 ftw Jul 19 03:56:13 it possible to just normally play .avi's yet? Jul 19 03:56:45 nope Jul 19 03:56:54 i thought there was some hardware decoder ship specifically for h.264 or something Jul 19 03:56:59 chip, even Jul 19 03:57:25 and .avi is not a format, but a container Jul 19 03:57:34 k ill rephrase Jul 19 03:57:49 is there a video player similar to vlc media player or something that can play something OTHER than .mp4 ? Jul 19 03:58:19 it plays wma, and 3gp XD Jul 19 03:58:20 jpa--: in linux or g1? Jul 19 03:58:35 well, htc magic Jul 19 03:58:45 more than 1 phone out now yo Jul 19 03:58:57 lol Jul 19 03:59:04 jpa--: transcode it :) Jul 19 03:59:25 bah Jul 19 03:59:39 why not Jul 19 04:00:02 shouldnt take *too* long Jul 19 04:07:39 has anyone tried Biowallet ? Jul 19 04:07:39 or is it even out yet ? Jul 19 04:07:45 cuz i just got an email about it from my provider lol Jul 19 04:08:15 biowallet? Jul 19 04:08:29 an apparent Iris scanner? Jul 19 04:08:42 lol wut Jul 19 04:08:47 scans your eye to unlock your phone or something? Jul 19 04:08:53 wtf Jul 19 04:09:03 how do you unlock yoru phone in a dark room Jul 19 04:09:13 or in sunlight lol Jul 19 04:09:19 thats a fail. Jul 19 04:09:29 http://www.speedtest.net/result/520470578.png Jul 19 04:09:34 yay! new record haha Jul 19 04:10:58 gahhdamn it Jul 19 04:11:02 on the HTC IME Jul 19 04:11:20 when you use your physical keyboard, it just f's up my typing Jul 19 04:11:42 and i cant disable that w/o disabling the OSK word completion Jul 19 04:14:14 KC aPatel Jul 19 04:14:19 hows life there Jul 19 04:14:39 http://www.speedtest.net/result/520473157.png Jul 19 04:15:04 I must be having a good day, normally its 768kb Jul 19 04:15:41 Wickednix: boring lol Jul 19 04:16:30 http://www.speedtest.net/result/520473761.png Jul 19 04:16:40 upload is getting rapped from torrents Jul 19 04:17:10 what do you guys pay? Jul 19 04:17:27 I pay 40 for my inet Jul 19 04:18:07 so do i Jul 19 04:18:15 am getting screwed Jul 19 04:18:23 we have a bundle pack Jul 19 04:18:35 120 for tv phone and net Jul 19 04:18:37 like 50 bucks Jul 19 04:19:10 my long distance and dsl is $88 a month Jul 19 04:22:26 i'm trying to run live-android 0.2 on an Eee PC 900A from an SD card. i can get it to boot but it freezes at the splash screen. i see in the faq that i need to allocate more base and video memory at boot and i tried adding "mem=1024M" (the system has 2GB) but it still freezes Jul 19 04:22:38 i guess my question is, what is the boot parameter to allocate more video memory? Jul 19 04:23:16 wouldnt that be the #liveandroid channel type of question? Jul 19 04:23:27 Wickednix, thanks. Jul 19 04:25:26 Wickednix: wehre you live? Jul 19 04:25:45 in a house :P Jul 19 04:26:12 no Jul 19 04:26:15 state bitch lol Jul 19 04:26:19 or country Jul 19 04:26:21 provice Jul 19 04:26:23 province* Jul 19 04:26:25 whatever lol Jul 19 04:26:27 California Jul 19 04:26:32 kewl Jul 19 04:26:41 10x better than missouri lol Jul 19 04:26:53 trying to get out of this bankrupted state Jul 19 04:27:01 really? Jul 19 04:27:05 its that bad? Jul 19 04:27:07 really Jul 19 04:27:15 damn Jul 19 04:27:22 taxes or somethign? Jul 19 04:27:26 no jobs, high taxes Jul 19 04:27:31 ah Jul 19 04:27:36 Wickednix: Which state are you thinking you'd like better? :) Jul 19 04:27:47 <_Auron|G1_> what's a fun snes game? Jul 19 04:27:55 <_Auron|G1_> nm Jul 19 04:27:57 they raised sales tax to 9.75% in my county =\ Jul 19 04:28:04 (Alameda) Jul 19 04:28:24 * jasonb is also in Alameda Jul 19 04:28:30 o.o Jul 19 04:28:35 =D Jul 19 04:28:40 * jasonb sees no shortage of jobs at the moment, however Jul 19 04:28:41 lookin at NC, WA, or x Jul 19 04:28:42 its 7.something% here Jul 19 04:28:58 Wickednix: WA? You must like rain. Jul 19 04:29:04 Wickednix: live with me in missourah XD Jul 19 04:29:11 lol Jul 19 04:29:30 * jasonb grew up in WA, and isn't living there ever again Jul 19 04:29:34 Wickednix: florida :) Jul 19 04:29:38 I have lived in cali for 29 years of my 33 Jul 19 04:29:43 * AakashPatel wants to go there Jul 19 04:29:47 go/move Jul 19 04:29:56 o.o Jul 19 04:29:58 tired of it Jul 19 04:30:12 Wickednix: move to a dif country :D Jul 19 04:30:17 weather doesnt effect me Jul 19 04:30:19 We need to terminate the Governator. Jul 19 04:30:26 yes we do Jul 19 04:30:34 haha Jul 19 04:30:38 Wickednix: Not seeing the sun for a couple/few months straight wouldn't affect you? Jul 19 04:30:39 Alameda.. isn't that where they blow stuff up? Jul 19 04:30:53 hmmm Jul 19 04:30:57 yeah... Jul 19 04:31:00 isnt it? Jul 19 04:31:02 haha Jul 19 04:31:15 yup in NoCal they blow shit up Jul 19 04:31:26 In SoCal we shoot stuff up Jul 19 04:31:30 haha Jul 19 04:31:31 They don't blow much up there, but they probably should. :) Jul 19 04:32:02 they dont do...anything here Jul 19 04:32:02 :( Jul 19 04:32:31 dont you tip cows out there aPatel Jul 19 04:32:41 hahaha Jul 19 04:32:55 or swim in the river Jul 19 04:33:05 man the hicks around here Jul 19 04:33:08 its crazy Jul 19 04:33:36 Wickednix: how bout we go tracker pullin? Jul 19 04:33:42 :| Jul 19 04:33:43 I loved it when I lived in South Carolina Jul 19 04:33:45 lol Jul 19 04:33:53 haah Jul 19 04:34:00 join EU and decide after some years :) Jul 19 04:34:07 its like 40% non-hicks here Jul 19 04:34:12 and rest is...whatever Jul 19 04:34:22 meth heads...anything Jul 19 04:34:27 never been to Missouri Jul 19 04:34:31 good Jul 19 04:34:33 lol Jul 19 04:34:39 stay away Jul 19 04:34:44 noted Jul 19 04:35:01 the nearest best buy is 50 miles :X Jul 19 04:35:04 from where i live Jul 19 04:35:11 hehe Jul 19 04:35:24 lol, but you got 4 walmarts within 10 miles I bet Jul 19 04:35:28 nope Jul 19 04:35:30 1 Jul 19 04:36:12 Best Buy has some great buys, if you like paying the 2000% markup Jul 19 04:37:24 oh hell yeah they do zinx. I went to look at micro sd's there. 4gb class 4 = $30 bucks Jul 19 04:37:37 I was like wtf Jul 19 04:37:45 lol Jul 19 04:37:46 you should see their HDMI cables/adapters Jul 19 04:37:56 adapter i got for $2 online? $40. Jul 19 04:37:58 when i went to south dakota and stuff Jul 19 04:38:00 omfg Jul 19 04:38:02 NOTHING Jul 19 04:38:18 and the one i got online was gold plated Jul 19 04:38:38 yeah I get my adapters online. forget stores Jul 19 04:38:46 Wb Tom Jul 19 04:38:50 ty Jul 19 04:39:18 waiting on a badugi tournament to start in 3 mins Jul 19 04:39:25 wut? Jul 19 04:39:45 I liked when Circut city went out of business. I got so much shit. Jul 19 04:39:59 haha Jul 19 04:40:01 lol Jul 19 04:40:05 got 4gb memory for my laptop for 25 bucks Jul 19 04:40:28 cool Jul 19 04:40:35 so many spindles of dvds Jul 19 04:41:01 i stopped buying dvds lol Jul 19 04:41:20 k tourney starting bbl Jul 19 04:41:25 lol Jul 19 04:41:30 fkn tom Jul 19 04:41:58 wtf wildblue only has 17K MB of download per month Jul 19 04:43:17 lol lammmmeee Jul 19 04:43:40 i'm soooo bored Jul 19 04:43:52 maybe i'll try compcache on my phone Jul 19 04:43:52 dude Jul 19 04:43:55 me too Jul 19 04:44:07 im just sitting here tyring to listen to music on my broken headphoens Jul 19 04:52:46 well Jul 19 04:52:57 water Jul 19 04:54:20 is smelly Jul 19 04:57:01 I guess i'm going to go lay with the wife for a bit. Jul 19 05:04:49 ah, I got my dynamically linked app working Jul 19 05:05:24 had to put the lib in /system/lib and put the right linker in the elf headers Jul 19 05:06:07 of course, it segfaults now but at least it runs Jul 19 05:12:58 .... is there a police scanner app for Android ? Jul 19 05:12:59 that would rule Jul 19 05:13:04 there's one for iphone that works amazing Jul 19 05:14:10 why would you need a police scanner? Jul 19 05:14:48 for fun Jul 19 05:14:51 .... i dont have cable Jul 19 05:22:14 hm Jul 19 05:22:21 almost done installing all this crap for win7 Jul 19 05:23:46 or no Jul 19 05:23:47 not Jul 19 05:23:52 jpa--, how does the police scanner app work for iPhone? is it an Internet-connected live scanner? Jul 19 05:23:58 win7 is like 10x snappier than vista though :) Jul 19 05:24:07 it's like xp Jul 19 05:24:29 and it's only $300 to upgrade Jul 19 05:24:48 to a bugfixed version of Vista Jul 19 05:25:04 lol Jul 19 05:25:16 is it that much? Jul 19 05:25:20 thought it was like 120 Jul 19 05:25:28 i don't know how much it is Jul 19 05:25:33 but it's too much, however much it is ;) Jul 19 05:25:49 go greymarket Jul 19 05:25:51 :) Jul 19 05:26:34 ploceidae: i have no idea how the police scanner works... it just works Jul 19 05:27:00 woopwoop Jul 19 05:27:58 * TommyBres makes police siren noises Jul 19 05:29:13 <_Auron|G1_> mm halfway through link to the past on my phone Jul 19 05:29:47 shit Jul 19 05:30:02 daemontools broke it Jul 19 05:30:16 lets see if this windows recovery crap works Jul 19 05:30:35 hmmm Jul 19 05:30:35 crap lol Jul 19 05:30:58 mmm halfway through a peanut butter and pickles sandwich Jul 19 05:30:58 probably a live scanner... iPhone can't pick up trunked systems Jul 19 05:31:26 it's probably an audio stream of the scanner channels, noob Jul 19 05:31:36 yeah Jul 19 05:31:38 just like you can go to wfan.com and listen to live radio Jul 19 05:31:50 and peeps is like OMGZ MY COMPUTER DOESNT HAS A RADIO Jul 19 05:32:01 <_Auron|G1_> pb and pickle? Jul 19 05:32:02 doesn't matter, captain cool Jul 19 05:32:08 if that's the case, then all you need is a multimedia app that can handle streaming audio Jul 19 05:32:21 you don't need a special "scanner" app Jul 19 05:32:32 indeed... Jul 19 05:32:34 gps + streaming Jul 19 05:32:38 looks more expensive packaged as a scanner :) Jul 19 05:32:41 one click police scanner Jul 19 05:32:45 yep Jul 19 05:32:47 _Auron|G1_: it sounded like a texas thing to do Jul 19 05:32:58 <_Auron|G1_> psh no o.O Jul 19 05:33:07 lol Jul 19 05:33:14 anyone know of any good places to dl multi touch apps? Jul 19 05:33:16 is there a good app for dictation Jul 19 05:33:16 i had this dude sit next to me at a ballgame Jul 19 05:33:18 he had a hot dog Jul 19 05:33:21 don't suppose anyone has access to an Intel OSX 10.4 system? Jul 19 05:33:22 i just want 2 record short notes Jul 19 05:33:24 instead of type them Jul 19 05:33:32 but record voice2text not voice as voice Jul 19 05:33:35 i'm looking for /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreAudioKit.framework from an Intel 10.4 system. Can anyone help me out? Jul 19 05:33:36 with mayo/mustard/ketchup/hot sauce/MUSHROOMS/onions/JALAPENOS/wtf Jul 19 05:33:44 he was tessan Jul 19 05:34:12 multiiiiiitouch!!!!!!!! Jul 19 05:34:18 <_Auron|G1_> okay Jul 19 05:34:29 <_Auron|G1_> but peanut butter and pickles don't match Jul 19 05:34:49 Guest95206: nice new shiny nickname too Jul 19 05:35:07 i hear peanut butter + pickle sandwich is good, actually. Jul 19 05:35:11 never tried it myself though. Jul 19 05:35:20 sorry for some reason android irc does that to me... Jul 19 05:35:36 http://www.junkdrawerblog.com/2009/07/dont-knock-it-til-you-try-it.html Jul 19 05:35:38 ya Jul 19 05:35:40 I need to register my nick but I'm lazy Jul 19 05:35:46 <_Auron|G1_> and the hotdog above isn't texan Jul 19 05:35:47 nub Jul 19 05:35:54 fried pickles are yummy Jul 19 05:36:02 <_Auron|G1_> that's called a fully loaded hotdog Jul 19 05:36:03 ^^^TEXAN Jul 19 05:36:07 anyone here tried programming with multitouch yet? Jul 19 05:36:15 fried pickles? i'd never heard of those until my TEXAS girlfriend told me about them >.< Jul 19 05:36:26 <_Auron|G1_> fried pickles are awesome Jul 19 05:36:30 indeed Jul 19 05:36:35 <_Auron|G1_> AND SO IS DR PEPPER Jul 19 05:36:38 they actually are pretty good Jul 19 05:36:45 duh, dr peppah = best soda out there Jul 19 05:36:51 SODA, not coke Jul 19 05:36:53 or pop Jul 19 05:36:57 <_Auron|G1_> are you texan? Jul 19 05:36:59 ha Jul 19 05:37:01 hell naw! Jul 19 05:37:09 <_Auron|G1_> XD Jul 19 05:37:14 <_Auron|G1_> you'd fit in Jul 19 05:37:14 texas calls it coke, right? every soda is a coke? Jul 19 05:37:19 .... Jul 19 05:37:24 that's more a southahn thing Jul 19 05:37:34 * TommyBres changes from bright orange shoes and baggy basketball shorts to cowboy boots and tight jeans Jul 19 05:37:55 <_Auron|G1_> lol Jul 19 05:38:03 <_Auron|G1_> I almost never seen cowboy hats Jul 19 05:38:09 <_Auron|G1_> but I live in the city Jul 19 05:38:13 uh huh Jul 19 05:38:15 "city" Jul 19 05:38:16 well. i guess that wasnt too bad Jul 19 05:38:19 where i grew up, its called pop Jul 19 05:38:23 not soda Jul 19 05:38:29 <_Auron|G1_> dfw metroplex is a city Jul 19 05:38:33 note to self: dont install daemontools on win7 Jul 19 05:38:44 in texas, if a few neighbors meet up for a dinner party that's enough people to call it a city Jul 19 05:38:47 <_Auron|G1_> and I live in the richest county in the state Jul 19 05:38:54 macer i installed deamon tools on windows 7 Jul 19 05:38:56 <_Auron|G1_> I think I live in the city :P Jul 19 05:39:00 lol Jul 19 05:39:09 twois10: think it is the older ver i tried Jul 19 05:39:12 "dfw metroplex" Jul 19 05:39:18 need newer 64bit ver Jul 19 05:39:30 just because they're within X miles of each other doesn't make them one, FYI Jul 19 05:39:47 <_Auron|G1_> cities* Jul 19 05:39:50 well, dont install zonealarm and deamon tool, they dont get along Jul 19 05:39:51 <_Auron|G1_> jesus Jul 19 05:39:52 i don't include jersey city and hoboken when i talk about NYC :P Jul 19 05:40:17 * TommyBres throws _Auron|G1_ a stick Jul 19 05:40:28 <_Auron|G1_> every city I've been in has >100,000 people in it Jul 19 05:40:47 had to restore for it tho Jul 19 05:41:00 so now i have to install 5 things i already did Jul 19 05:41:12 Macer: what happened when you installed dm-tools Jul 19 05:41:22 <_Auron|G1_> if a named place with over a hundred thousand people in it is not a city then wtf is a city Jul 19 05:41:28 twois10: reboot and kept rebooting Jul 19 05:41:44 im sure its because it is an older ver Jul 19 05:41:51 like 409 or something Jul 19 05:43:30 lol Jul 19 05:43:44 _Auron|G1_: Lowell, MA has 105,000 people in it... i lived there for like 10 years Jul 19 05:44:02 i certainly would not say i lived in the city Jul 19 05:44:06 Macer: this is where linux is superior, shit like that dont happen Jul 19 05:44:11 <_Auron|G1_> I grew up in Arlington, which has 380,000 people Jul 19 05:44:20 twois10: uhm Jul 19 05:44:27 <_Auron|G1_> I lived there for 20 years Jul 19 05:44:31 it does if you mess up a kernel Jul 19 05:45:03 Macer: because the linux kernel is not a whore Jul 19 05:45:10 er Jul 19 05:45:14 ok Jul 19 05:45:19 380k? psh Jul 19 05:45:24 not everyone is allowed access Jul 19 05:46:24 <_Auron|G1_> *sigh* Jul 19 05:46:26 twois10: last i checked in win7 not everybody is allowed access Jul 19 05:46:33 lol _Auron|G1_ take it easy man :) Jul 19 05:46:40 i'm just playin with ya Jul 19 05:46:41 last i checked that was the case in xp also Jul 19 05:46:46 :) Jul 19 05:46:51 <_Auron|G1_> moooo Jul 19 05:46:54 the only places that can properly be called cities in the US are the top 6 places of population density Jul 19 05:46:56 hahah Jul 19 05:47:01 that's an odd reaction but okay Jul 19 05:47:10 everything else is just shitass stripmall/urban sprawl crap Jul 19 05:47:12 <_Auron|G1_> I'm an odd person Jul 19 05:47:20 rigel: i thought a city was 500K or more Jul 19 05:47:24 nope Jul 19 05:47:28 maybe 1million? Jul 19 05:47:30 i live in baltimore Jul 19 05:47:32 heh Jul 19 05:47:33 <_Auron|G1_> I drew stick figure comics similar to xkcd in jr high with eyeballs for heads Jul 19 05:47:37 baltimore has >500k people Jul 19 05:47:44 yes, it is emphatically not a city Jul 19 05:47:45 and it isnt a city? Jul 19 05:47:56 nope. population density is pretty low Jul 19 05:48:00 what is it called then? Jul 19 05:48:04 urban core is a piece of crap Jul 19 05:48:17 i don't think "city" has anything to do with population TBH Jul 19 05:48:17 everything is out in the suburbs Jul 19 05:48:19 the suburb of baltimore? Jul 19 05:48:24 heh Jul 19 05:48:30 i think it's only based on the government of the city/town Jul 19 05:48:59 theres this book Jul 19 05:49:07 "the life and death of great american cities" Jul 19 05:49:10 Although there are no agreed on technical definitions distinguishing a city from a town within general English language meanings, many cities have a particular administrative, legal, or historical status based on local law — for example an article of incorporation approved by the local cognizant (state) legislature separates towns from city government forms, rights, duties and privileges in... Jul 19 05:49:11 ...Massachusetts — similar distinctions are made across the world Jul 19 05:49:13 read that Jul 19 05:49:14 different states can give different legal meanings to the terms if they so choose to do so Jul 19 05:49:44 neonfreon: exactly, and in MA (where i unfortunately spent half of my life) it's based on the ways of the government Jul 19 05:50:00 you could have a city of 3,000 people and a town bordering it with 300,000 heheh Jul 19 05:50:16 unfortunately? Jul 19 05:50:22 not a fan of massachusetts Jul 19 05:50:22 what, are you dark skinned or something? Jul 19 05:50:45 relevance? Jul 19 05:51:01 twois10: where did you get the win7 64bit ver of dt? Jul 19 05:51:02 boston's racism is notorious Jul 19 05:51:08 oh Jul 19 05:51:18 esp for a northern city Jul 19 05:51:22 well, i'm kinda red right now... sunburned Jul 19 05:51:25 Macer: daemon-tools website Jul 19 05:51:30 because i'm 100% irish... which should fit in well in boston, no? :P Jul 19 05:51:32 <_Auron|G1_> I should probably plug my phone in soon Jul 19 05:51:33 i looked there Jul 19 05:51:35 they're still jackasses haha Jul 19 05:51:38 didnt see one Jul 19 05:52:58 Macer: http://www.disc-tools.com/request?p=eedde6b367bd742a9ffa22c2918511ca/daemon4304-lite.exe Jul 19 05:53:43 well, you didnt call it "taxachussetts" so my next guess cant be that you're some sort of glibertarian/randroid shitbag Jul 19 05:53:59 so im really not sure where to go from there. why didnt you like MA? Jul 19 05:55:09 twois10: that worked for the 64bit ver? Jul 19 05:55:15 hahaha Jul 19 05:55:22 Macer: yes Jul 19 05:55:37 hm. ok Jul 19 05:55:50 i only run 64 bit, as matter of fact am looking to get a x64 cpu for my g1 Jul 19 05:55:56 rigel, people there are just idiots, to be honest... not all, but the majority Jul 19 05:56:36 not nice, completely ignorant, don't dare try to talk about the yankees with them around Jul 19 05:56:44 << twois10: lol Jul 19 05:58:04 yankees? Jul 19 05:58:26 yeah? Jul 19 05:58:42 what is this yankees? Jul 19 05:58:44 lol Jul 19 05:58:58 red sox have the trashiest fans in the world, not a question in my mind Jul 19 05:59:37 oh, this is some kind of popular culture thing, a sports team maybe? Jul 19 05:59:45 ...yes, that's right Jul 19 05:59:47 cricket? football? Jul 19 05:59:49 Macer: when i installed win 7 (x64 ofcourse) i used deamon-tools to install all my other apps like office and ms project which are all ISO, Jul 19 05:59:51 basebawl Jul 19 05:59:59 cd burning is so yesterday Jul 19 06:00:04 oh, of course, the american pastime Jul 19 06:00:14 :) Jul 19 06:00:19 like wife beating and beer drinking Jul 19 06:00:35 the on-its-way-to-being-ruined american pastime Jul 19 06:00:42 and no, those are irish pastimes Jul 19 06:00:54 rigel you may call it beating, some call it discipline Jul 19 06:01:03 and i call it necessary Jul 19 06:01:04 i dont think americans have a monopoly on wife beating Jul 19 06:01:20 and certainly not on beer drinking Jul 19 06:01:39 or the irish for that matter Jul 19 06:01:46 uh huh... Jul 19 06:01:55 then why say something as stupid as what you just said? Jul 19 06:02:19 how does youtube video playback work that it doesn't need flash Jul 19 06:02:27 youtube playah Jul 19 06:02:38 perhaps my english is not so good. it is not my native language Jul 19 06:02:47 is there anyway to make that work on other places? Jul 19 06:02:50 my english isn't very good either, it's okay :( Jul 19 06:03:06 haraken, nope... i've thought that myself Jul 19 06:03:14 english is my second language Jul 19 06:03:23 inglish is my first language Jul 19 06:03:25 er Jul 19 06:03:26 English Jul 19 06:03:27 ;) Jul 19 06:03:28 hah Jul 19 06:03:29 lol Jul 19 06:03:37 ^^^gooododdododoodd Jul 19 06:03:49 here comes calimari to make me hungry again Jul 19 06:03:56 haha Jul 19 06:04:09 im disgustingly full now Jul 19 06:04:12 had taco bell Jul 19 06:04:20 taco bell is amazing Jul 19 06:04:24 washing it down with a sugar beverage Jul 19 06:04:28 and it probably cost you <$5 Jul 19 06:04:35 well I bought for two Jul 19 06:04:41 so it was like 13 Jul 19 06:05:01 lol who're you kidding, i spend $8-10 for 1 person at taco bell :( Jul 19 06:05:07 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_density Jul 19 06:05:07 lol Jul 19 06:05:11 a-ha! Jul 19 06:05:14 TommyBres: you're doing it wrong hehe Jul 19 06:05:17 (p.s., i just tried typing "who're" fast without punctuation....) Jul 19 06:05:22 * Haraken puts TommyBres on a scale Jul 19 06:05:25 ;) Jul 19 06:05:27 calimari things are esspensive here :( Jul 19 06:05:30 i have determined the fundamental problem of the southern united states Jul 19 06:05:41 TommyBres, do you guys have the 3 dollar menu instead of the dollar menu? Jul 19 06:05:43 TommyBres: where's that? Jul 19 06:05:45 btw where are you Jul 19 06:05:45 Low densities may cause an extinction vortex and lead to further reduced fertility. This is called the Allee effect after the scientist who identified it. Examples of the causes in low population densities include: Jul 19 06:05:46 rigel, their existence is a fundamental problem Jul 19 06:05:49 * Increased problems with locating mates * Increased inbreeding Jul 19 06:05:50 calimari manhattan Jul 19 06:05:52 Arizona here Jul 19 06:05:56 calamari, me too Jul 19 06:05:57 ahh Jul 19 06:06:03 wait Jul 19 06:06:04 Haraken: Tucson Jul 19 06:06:06 have i talked to you before? Jul 19 06:06:12 there was another person here from arizona Jul 19 06:06:15 possibly Jul 19 06:06:16 I don't think it was you though Jul 19 06:06:20 we spoke of denny's Jul 19 06:06:30 lol Jul 19 06:06:30 I'm not on here all the time Jul 19 06:06:40 yeah prolly not Jul 19 06:06:43 ah ok Jul 19 06:06:45 he only joins when i'm already hungry and have no food Jul 19 06:06:48 ...just to rub it in Jul 19 06:06:57 :P Jul 19 06:07:05 <=K Jul 19 06:07:17 huh Jul 19 06:07:28 having a membership to crunchyroll.com is pointless if i can't play it on my g1 :( Jul 19 06:08:07 Haraken: I heard that Adobe already developed a flash player for G1.. not sure what the delay is now Jul 19 06:08:20 calamari, specifically for the g1 or hero? Jul 19 06:08:21 they had videos of it working fine last october Jul 19 06:08:25 on a G1 Jul 19 06:08:29 oh Jul 19 06:08:31 well, wasn't it demoed on the g1? Jul 19 06:08:37 yeah what's the hold up then Jul 19 06:08:38 :( Jul 19 06:08:58 theyre dumb Jul 19 06:09:37 i just want a skyfire browser for android Jul 19 06:09:44 skyfire? Jul 19 06:09:47 what is that Jul 19 06:09:49 www.skyfire.com Jul 19 06:09:59 shows you basically anything a desktop browser can Jul 19 06:10:05 can't the g1 do that alraedy? Jul 19 06:10:08 .... Jul 19 06:10:14 full flash Jul 19 06:10:19 silverlight Jul 19 06:10:21 ah Jul 19 06:10:27 and many other plugins i have no clue about Jul 19 06:11:16 I tried Opera, but I am not sure if they could make data entry much more annoying hehe Jul 19 06:11:26 ok so what else can i do on my phone that will blow my mind away Jul 19 06:11:43 did the extended battery, got cyanogen, did sipdroid, wifi tether... Jul 19 06:11:45 Haraken: install the shotgun app? (har har) Jul 19 06:11:55 I don't get the joke so maybe not :P Jul 19 06:12:00 ah Jul 19 06:12:04 maybe I do get it (Slow) Jul 19 06:12:08 word Jul 19 06:12:10 almost done :) Jul 19 06:12:33 i think sipdroid was slowing my phone down a bit so i took it off Jul 19 06:12:38 I don't ever use it Jul 19 06:13:18 what's the latest jf rom ? Jul 19 06:14:01 not sure, I use cyanogen only now :) Jul 19 06:15:35 Macer: did it work? Jul 19 06:16:10 yeah Jul 19 06:16:15 had to download the newer stpd Jul 19 06:16:39 and still get "incompatible app" when starting it but you can just kind of breeze past that Jul 19 06:16:42 heh Jul 19 06:16:52 sprung from cages on highway 9, chrome wheels, fuel injected and steppin out over the line Jul 19 06:16:53 although i don't know if it is working for a fact yet.. i haven't tried to mount an image yet ;) Jul 19 06:17:17 ohhhh baby this town rips the bones from your back, it's a death trap, it's a suicide rap, we gotta get out while we're young Jul 19 06:17:43 want to see about getting the android sdk on win7 Jul 19 06:17:43 heh Jul 19 06:18:02 that should be fun.. maybe i can use uwin or cygwin as an env to do it Jul 19 06:18:13 hm Jul 19 06:18:26 macer what av software do you have? Jul 19 06:18:27 why wouldnt it just work natively Jul 19 06:18:35 av software? :) Jul 19 06:18:40 handbrake? haha Jul 19 06:18:46 (the end) Jul 19 06:18:49 Alien Vanquishing software Jul 19 06:19:13 i don't have much of anythign on this thing yet but if i were to do encoding type stuff i'd probably just use mencoder or ffmpeg on my other box Jul 19 06:19:27 Anti Virus Jul 19 06:19:32 fire up mencoder on the phone for those moments where i need something encoded Jul 19 06:19:37 oh.. i'm just using norton Jul 19 06:19:51 symantec Jul 19 06:19:56 macer that could you problem Jul 19 06:20:06 lol Jul 19 06:20:06 er why? Jul 19 06:20:15 uninstall it and install deamon tools to see what happens Jul 19 06:20:16 it isn't detecting win7 as a virus? :) Jul 19 06:20:21 why ? it's working Jul 19 06:20:23 lol Jul 19 06:20:34 okay, how about this Jul 19 06:20:45 stud is THE WORST poker variant out there Jul 19 06:20:46 oh i thought you said it was giving you errors? Jul 19 06:20:50 i'm bored to tears and above the chip average Jul 19 06:20:58 twois10: naw.. it was.. but it ran Jul 19 06:21:07 it was just an incompatible app error but you can still run it Jul 19 06:21:11 and click "don't warn me again" Jul 19 06:21:22 :) it runs though.. it seems ok Jul 19 06:21:23 oh i see Jul 19 06:21:27 i'm installing nero7 now Jul 19 06:21:32 i think the reboot problem was an old stpd Jul 19 06:21:39 gr Jul 19 06:21:42 sptd Jul 19 06:22:24 i was trying to install a pretty old ver of daemontools ;) Jul 19 06:22:30 i use avast and it works fine Jul 19 06:22:32 something from like 5 months ago Jul 19 06:23:14 another restart Jul 19 06:23:15 damnit Jul 19 06:23:30 this is the worst part of windows right here :) then i can work on getting the android sdk/ide Jul 19 06:24:33 i have not log into windows for a while now Jul 19 06:25:13 i have not been in the mood to play crysis Jul 19 06:28:57 wow Jul 19 06:29:09 ms expressions is $700? Jul 19 06:29:16 that seems like a ripoff for how disgusting the apps look Jul 19 06:29:31 they look like knockoff java apps that were made by teh office 07 team in their spare time Jul 19 06:30:57 blah blah blah Jul 19 06:31:21 don't you have an emo conference to go to Jul 19 06:31:25 ? Jul 19 06:31:45 emo? Jul 19 06:31:57 there within lies the problem Jul 19 06:32:00 good night Jul 19 06:32:14 was it the rap music, the love for baseball or the urban clothing that convinced you i was emo :P Jul 19 06:32:18 is silverlight supposed to be the adobe flash killer> Jul 19 06:32:26 twois10: that's what they say Jul 19 06:32:26 no? it uses flash Jul 19 06:32:34 wut? Jul 19 06:32:34 uhm Jul 19 06:32:42 am i retarded? Jul 19 06:32:45 * Macer stops talking here Jul 19 06:32:50 probably Jul 19 06:33:31 TommyBres: it does not use flash Jul 19 06:33:37 though its flashy Jul 19 06:33:48 probably huh? Jul 19 06:33:52 lol Jul 19 06:34:01 macer we've already established that you're a douchebag, everyone is aware Jul 19 06:34:08 see.. there goes the emo Jul 19 06:34:10 but twois10 yeah i'm reading up a bit on it now Jul 19 06:34:25 * Macer waits for him to play a solo piano in the background with a tear in his eye Jul 19 06:34:35 twois10 quick question for you, when you see someone being aggressive towards others do you think of them as emo? Jul 19 06:34:56 ah. you read up on the definition? :) Jul 19 06:34:58 what is emo Jul 19 06:35:02 hahahaha! Jul 19 06:35:08 lol Jul 19 06:35:09 ok.. i'm too tired to play around. good night :) Jul 19 06:35:12 wait, is silverlight emo? Jul 19 06:35:14 emotionally unrestrained and immature Jul 19 06:35:27 jsharkey, yes Jul 19 06:35:46 opensource emo as i remember Jul 19 06:35:50 01:33 later faggot Jul 19 06:35:53 lol Jul 19 06:35:54 see? emo. :) Jul 19 06:36:08 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo Jul 19 06:36:15 i am Jul 19 06:36:22 please we all know what emo is. Jul 19 06:36:25 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=emo Jul 19 06:36:28 you wear girl pants Jul 19 06:36:32 lotharn, apparently macer hasn't a clue Jul 19 06:36:44 he's calling me emo because i insult him... Jul 19 06:36:51 you shouldn't do that Jul 19 06:36:57 Did they actually open source Silverlight? I thought they just announced they would and never did it Jul 19 06:37:01 its bad. Jul 19 06:37:13 my enormous member wouldn't fit in girl pants Jul 19 06:37:17 kRutOn: ms opensource something? Jul 19 06:37:17 i don't remember. Jul 19 06:37:20 the building would explode Jul 19 06:37:31 i still dont get it Jul 19 06:37:36 Macer, nah, its all strategy Jul 19 06:37:36 although from what i hear silverlight wasn't supposed to be that bad Jul 19 06:37:45 hegemoney Jul 19 06:37:50 twois10 have you ever heard of "taking back sunday"? Jul 19 06:37:51 wikipedia: "A PC World report stated[59] that Microsoft aims to release certain parts of Silverlight source code as open source software, but Sam Ramji, director of platform technology strategy at Microsoft, said the company has no plans to do so" Jul 19 06:37:52 lotharn: haha Jul 19 06:38:04 jsharkey: wow Jul 19 06:38:18 is this some new terms, i have been out of highschool for some time now, so idont know these new terms Jul 19 06:38:21 jsharkey: Oh, I guess they just 'worked with' the Mono team: http://mono-project.com/Moonlight Jul 19 06:38:21 jsharkey, well i guess that was expected. Jul 19 06:38:22 seems not huh? haha Jul 19 06:38:37 kRutOn: mono is just, awkward Jul 19 06:38:39 lol twois10 how long have you been out of high school Jul 19 06:38:51 jsharkey: It works surprisingly well now. Jul 19 06:38:51 is there a silverlight plugin for android? :) Jul 19 06:38:59 then again. there isn't even a flash player is there? Jul 19 06:39:10 stupid really no one will trade a propreitary pile of shit for another Jul 19 06:39:15 kRutOn: still, i mean philisophically Jul 19 06:39:18 i don't understand flash. they update like every other day and make certain platforms obsolete Jul 19 06:39:30 lotharn: yeah i guess you're right ther Jul 19 06:39:31 i couldnt belive debian allowed libs in Jul 19 06:39:43 debian, the iceweasal people Jul 19 06:39:46 but it might cause a 3rd party to make another that is open source Jul 19 06:39:48 hahaha Jul 19 06:39:52 TommyBres: too long Jul 19 06:39:57 and might nullify adobes thing Jul 19 06:39:58 lol Jul 19 06:40:00 iceweasal people hahaha Jul 19 06:40:01 eventually Jul 19 06:40:02 at night, the ice weasels come Jul 19 06:40:10 kRutOn: like crab people? Jul 19 06:40:12 ms usuall plays the long game Jul 19 06:40:16 why would android want silverlight Jul 19 06:40:21 twois10: why not? ;) Jul 19 06:40:27 Macer: no, like a matt groening quote Jul 19 06:40:27 android wants all Jul 19 06:40:45 like i said tho. android doesn't even have flash Jul 19 06:40:57 that's why we need skyfire... Jul 19 06:40:59 flash and silverlight together, boom Jul 19 06:41:00 even if it did.. it would be obsolete in a week when they come out with a new ver that the older ones can't play Jul 19 06:41:06 have you seen the requirements for flash 10? Jul 19 06:41:12 its retarded. Jul 19 06:41:13 lotharn: no Jul 19 06:41:14 we dont need flash 10 Jul 19 06:41:18 like 4GHz i7 Jul 19 06:41:23 i'd take flash 7 right now if i could get it Jul 19 06:41:24 with 4G of ram? :) Jul 19 06:41:26 sort of. Jul 19 06:41:30 any flash > no flash Jul 19 06:41:43 my quad core has problems meeting it sometimes. Jul 19 06:41:43 lotharn: yeah well. flash on the n800 was obsolete in a week Jul 19 06:41:50 then they updated it..and a week later... Jul 19 06:41:52 obsolete again Jul 19 06:42:09 then they updated it and it couldn't even play the vids because it was too intensive for something with a 400MHz arm Jul 19 06:42:10 test your plugins, including silverlight: http://bubblemark.com/ Jul 19 06:42:13 nowadays i run a gl desktop which helps alot Jul 19 06:42:26 seems that gt9800 is worth something afterall Jul 19 06:42:32 haha Jul 19 06:42:57 do you route flash calculations through the gpu? :) Jul 19 06:42:57 Watch any video Jul 19 06:42:59 YouTube, Hulu, any web video - you name it - it's playing on Skyfire. Skyfire is the only mobile browser that supports full Flash and Windows Media videos, including Flash 10 and Silverlight 2.0. Jul 19 06:43:03 lotharn: apparently it's not THAT hard to do Jul 19 06:43:13 skyfire works MINT, and that has flash 10 Jul 19 06:43:39 TommyBres, read the wiki on flv and x264 Jul 19 06:43:53 nothx, not much of a wikireader Jul 19 06:44:02 macer werent you leaving? Jul 19 06:44:20 yeah but then interesting people came along Jul 19 06:44:23 TommyBres, it aint as easy as they make you think Jul 19 06:44:26 and i could just ignore the fact that you were here Jul 19 06:44:31 lotharn, i've USED skyfire Jul 19 06:44:31 very cycle dependent Jul 19 06:44:38 lol Jul 19 06:44:43 you're catty like a woman Jul 19 06:44:51 TommyBres, not helping Jul 19 06:44:52 how do you know i'm not? Jul 19 06:44:56 luckily, i now have a real IRC client! Jul 19 06:45:01 i know lotharn, there will be no more Jul 19 06:45:06 a real irc client? Jul 19 06:45:09 androirc? Jul 19 06:45:10 lol Jul 19 06:46:15 but flash is not trivial this day and age, a 1mbps stream can use 2ghz machine and max it out no problem Jul 19 06:46:22 anyways lotharn, what i'm saying is i've used skyfire on phones with similar specs to the dream Jul 19 06:46:28 and it works very well Jul 19 06:46:35 i dont know about this skyfire. Jul 19 06:46:42 if you have a winmo device, give it a try Jul 19 06:46:51 ah, no Jul 19 06:46:57 *shrug*, oh well Jul 19 06:47:02 i think it's also for symbian, got one of those? lol Jul 19 06:47:08 no Jul 19 06:47:15 everything in my house is linux Jul 19 06:47:16 hmmm youtube it :P Jul 19 06:47:22 nokia is going to make all their stuff use qt Jul 19 06:47:31 thank God symbian gets an overhaul Jul 19 06:47:40 so it doesn't look circa 1993 anymore Jul 19 06:47:44 (linux can handle youtube right? i hear it's not as good as my mac with video) Jul 19 06:47:50 eh itll all go android eventually Jul 19 06:48:00 nokia makes awesome hardware Jul 19 06:48:06 wonder if anybody was able to port android to any of their phones Jul 19 06:48:17 i know there was a lot of luck with n800/n810s Jul 19 06:48:29 TommyBres, Linux has had superb video support since 92. Jul 19 06:48:39 lotharn that was a joke :) Jul 19 06:48:45 i don't have a mac Jul 19 06:49:14 too bad, I hear macs are great with video Jul 19 06:49:24 haha yeah Jul 19 06:49:29 macs? or osx? ;) Jul 19 06:49:36 considering macs are just PCs nowadays Jul 19 06:49:41 * Macer sighs for the days of the ppc Jul 19 06:49:43 lotharn: as long as you read .mov files, yes :) Jul 19 06:49:57 well fuck that Jul 19 06:50:19 PCs with an efi bios ... and osx is a mach kernel with a crappy wm Jul 19 06:50:20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJtKgLWCYZI Jul 19 06:50:25 heh Jul 19 06:50:39 I pretty much run that wm Jul 19 06:50:43 i guess Jul 19 06:50:45 ironically enough.. all these other operating systems are just trying to mimick windows Jul 19 06:50:46 i dunno Jul 19 06:50:53 compiz is a pile of crap too Jul 19 06:50:56 with the exception of osx i guess Jul 19 06:51:00 but it does the job great Jul 19 06:51:01 lotharn: kwin isn't bad Jul 19 06:51:08 hate it Jul 19 06:51:12 really? Jul 19 06:51:18 do you hate kwin or kde in general? :) Jul 19 06:51:19 too bulky Jul 19 06:51:27 both in theory Jul 19 06:51:36 there is no such thing as too bulky in the days of $100 1TB drives ;) Jul 19 06:51:47 mem footprint is too large Jul 19 06:51:51 i like kde better than gnome Jul 19 06:51:51 $75 :-p Jul 19 06:51:58 mem foot print? :) Jul 19 06:51:58 alot of waste for a wm Jul 19 06:51:59 EugeneKay: sup dawg Jul 19 06:52:01 And with 4GB of ram being standard, who cares? Jul 19 06:52:08 EugeneKay: agreed Jul 19 06:52:08 Miller Lite, TommyBres. Jul 19 06:52:10 heh Jul 19 06:52:13 ew Jul 19 06:52:24 livin the american moosepiss life? :) Jul 19 06:52:32 it is bulky because developers have a lot of space to work with Jul 19 06:52:42 My wm is simple and I have a 2% cpu idle. Jul 19 06:52:44 plus you can tone all the stuff down to save on that old P3 in the closet ;) Jul 19 06:52:48 what do you have? Jul 19 06:52:51 lotharn: i use blackbox too ;) Jul 19 06:52:53 haha Jul 19 06:53:04 blackbox ftw Jul 19 06:53:19 i mean for an absolute minimalist X enviroment Jul 19 06:53:23 but the gpu handles all the desktop rendering Jul 19 06:53:34 for all thats worth. Jul 19 06:54:09 which is really alot i guess, mkvs run at 2% cpu idle now. Jul 19 06:55:14 i heard that my gpu is like faster than a million ducks on parade or somthing like that. Jul 19 06:55:25 not sure what that meant. Jul 19 06:55:34 ... Jul 19 06:55:38 ducks arent very fast Jul 19 06:55:49 but a million? oh wow Jul 19 06:55:59 that takes even longer, because they wont run the same way Jul 19 06:56:01 thats a lot of quackery Jul 19 06:56:05 * TommyBres can outrun a duck Jul 19 06:56:21 do ducks run? Jul 19 06:56:33 they waddle Jul 19 06:56:47 i think it has to do with flying in formatino. Jul 19 06:56:48 they can waddle quickly, especially when they hear a loud exhaust and see tail lights coming Jul 19 06:56:56 tail lights? god i'm tired Jul 19 06:56:58 headlights Jul 19 06:57:10 (yeah, i typically run over ducks backwards, what does it mean to ya) Jul 19 06:57:29 who was it that asked for silverlight in android? Jul 19 06:57:49 someone who wanted to see "force close" alot Jul 19 06:57:49 there is library on the market i think Jul 19 06:57:59 lol Jul 19 06:58:17 but either way, silverlight works in my linux box Jul 19 06:58:26 in my whole time using skyfire i found ONE site that it couldnt handle Jul 19 06:58:47 that was MLB Gameday, because you have to pay money to get gameday on a mobile... so MLB doesnt let it work :( Jul 19 06:58:59 if you want silverlight in linux, install moonshine plugin Jul 19 07:01:00 this kyfire thing seems ot Jul 19 07:01:47 huh? Jul 19 07:02:50 ot? Jul 19 07:04:06 i never used winmob Jul 19 07:04:34 wonder if you can install it on a g1 Jul 19 07:04:35 heh Jul 19 07:05:07 lotharn: ? Jul 19 07:05:27 oh off topic Jul 19 07:06:12 whatre you talking about lol Jul 19 07:06:19 you said something about skyfire and i asked what you were asking Jul 19 07:42:43 hey got a question i just got a system update notice for cupcake 1.5 but i'm on jesus freak 1.5 Jul 19 07:42:49 why would i just now get this Jul 19 07:42:56 and how if i'm on jf Jul 19 07:44:18 ? Jul 19 07:44:20 anyone Jul 19 07:44:59 did you put JF on your phone? Jul 19 07:45:13 i've had jesus freak Jul 19 07:45:17 since it's came out Jul 19 07:45:20 the 1.5 update Jul 19 07:45:29 1.5 update huh... Jul 19 07:45:35 i didnt get any notification of an update and i'm on jf1.51 Jul 19 07:45:45 same Jul 19 07:45:48 i just got it Jul 19 07:45:52 few mins ago Jul 19 07:45:54 hmm Jul 19 07:46:08 it's a ota Jul 19 07:46:10 not a jf update Jul 19 07:46:18 and i'm not sure why i'm getting it Jul 19 07:46:49 someone else said they got it earlier Jul 19 07:46:51 * TommyBres scrolls up Jul 19 07:47:13 meh, its too long ago Jul 19 07:47:18 i mean what's it for are they trying to weed out rooted phones or is it a lagit update? Jul 19 07:47:27 lol @ weeding out rooted phones Jul 19 07:47:29 that wont happen Jul 19 07:47:37 i know Jul 19 07:47:40 all you would have to do is Jul 19 07:47:42 re d oit Jul 19 07:47:45 re do it Jul 19 07:47:48 but still Jul 19 07:47:55 i wonder if it's just the 1.5 update Jul 19 07:48:02 or is it new changes Jul 19 07:48:18 i don't want to update lol i'm afraid of unrooting my phone Jul 19 07:49:00 * TommyBres sighs Jul 19 07:49:05 then... DON'T UPDATE :) Jul 19 07:49:13 i'm not Jul 19 07:49:14 lol Jul 19 07:49:16 i just want to know Jul 19 07:49:19 what they fixed Jul 19 07:49:20 if anything Jul 19 07:49:27 www.google.com will let you know anything you ask Jul 19 07:49:54 do you know that size of the actual image Jul 19 07:50:04 this one is 884 kb Jul 19 07:50:07 KB Jul 19 07:50:12 no Jul 19 07:50:50 anyways i'm tired, i'm gettin some rest Jul 19 08:47:29 anyone awake? Jul 19 08:47:39 me Jul 19 08:48:35 how are ya nomad_fr , quick question for you, when I root the phone, and it's rooted, do I have to update in steps from adp1.1, to JF 1.41, to 1.42, to 1.43 Holiday? or can I just go straight from adp1.1 to JF.1.43? Jul 19 08:49:00 just trying to figure out the quickest way to root a phone Jul 19 08:49:03 lol i cant' help you i understand nothing Jul 19 08:49:09 ah np Jul 19 08:49:12 to sheel root ? Jul 19 08:49:46 prodigy_: you can update directly, might need to wipe tho Jul 19 08:49:51 no, root will be set already, i am just wondering if I need to update a ROM like JF's step by step or whether I can basically go from the earliest JF to the latest in one jump Jul 19 08:50:15 it might be possible to not wipe if you do in steps i hear, i just wipe every time tho to be sure Jul 19 08:50:33 perfinion: a wipe is fine by me, so I can just go from RC33 to JF.1.43 straight (of course I will have to apply the radio update) Jul 19 08:50:47 why dont you goto cupcake? Jul 19 08:50:51 1.51 is good Jul 19 08:51:07 but yes, remember the radio update, bad things happen otherwise Jul 19 08:51:25 perfinion: yeah I will do that, i'm just saying, go from RC33 to JF.1.43holiday Jul 19 08:51:31 then update the radio and then perform the 1.51 Jul 19 08:51:39 i wonder how i could keep tmobile's system from knowing my phone's a g1, so i can use a regular data plan with it :( Jul 19 08:51:39 and then from there move to another rom (like cyanogen's hehe) Jul 19 08:52:00 prodigy_: that would work Jul 19 09:02:48 perfinion: do you think i can go straight from RC33, update the radio for cupcake 1.5 and then straight to the latest of JF's release (ADP one) ? Jul 19 09:03:12 basically not having to worry about JF1.41, 42 and/or .43 holiday? Jul 19 09:04:12 prodigy_: what do you mean from rc33? Jul 19 09:04:43 yeah, no need to flash interim images Jul 19 09:04:56 only rc29, recovery, radio(for 1.5) Jul 19 09:05:01 or talk to jf Jul 19 09:05:03 tmzt: when rooting the phone, and i've got root with the RC33, can i just update the new radio, then go straight to JF 1.51 adp? Jul 19 09:05:17 tmzt: ah ok..much quicker that way then Jul 19 09:05:19 how do you have root withrc33? Jul 19 09:05:36 tmzt: rc29 i meant lol Jul 19 09:05:40 ok Jul 19 10:19:18 morning Jul 19 10:20:44 Anyone here who maybe knows what is setting board_trout.disable_sdcard=1 on the kernel cmdline? Device is a HTC Dream. This parameter masks interrupts coming from the SD-Card Slots GPIO also, so Android can't see the inserted SD-Card Jul 19 10:21:34 yes, why do you want that? Jul 19 10:21:41 Dream is trout Jul 19 10:22:20 I don't want that and I do not know where it's coming from Jul 19 10:39:06 Hello there Jul 19 10:39:14 hello Jul 19 10:39:20 hoe r u Jul 19 10:39:28 hoe is how Jul 19 10:39:34 this is a technical chat Jul 19 10:39:39 welcome to irc Jul 19 10:39:52 We need to set up Androidfan892 with some ritalin IV. Jul 19 10:40:11 ah someone that speaks dutch :) Jul 19 10:40:17 ok so no social talk allowe ;) Jul 19 10:40:27 I could use some ritalin myself though. Jul 19 10:40:39 get off IRC and get back to work. Jul 19 10:40:41 #android-offtopic Jul 19 10:41:05 Androidfan892: #android-chat, and hundreds of other irc channels on many networks Jul 19 10:41:08 hardly as many people as here though Jul 19 10:41:22 if you have quests about android itself this is the right place Jul 19 10:41:25 yep dutch. so true Jul 19 10:41:47 ok thanks mate Jul 19 10:41:53 Having android and android-dev is a little confusing though. Jul 19 10:42:04 you might also try /nick (something) Jul 19 10:42:10 Don't know were is the better place to ask app development questions. Jul 19 10:42:12 and /msg nickserv Jul 19 10:42:15 and /msg nickserv help Jul 19 10:42:36 wm_eddie: app dev in -dev, system stuff here Jul 19 10:43:02 I see. Jul 19 10:43:24 system stuff as in making your own rom image? Jul 19 10:43:29 ok im off again, talk to u later, cheers Jul 19 10:43:34 see ya Jul 19 10:43:46 and realted stuff Jul 19 10:44:00 Interesting. Jul 19 10:44:35 although, if i looked at the topic I see it's obvious. Jul 19 10:46:00 AOSP is basically building from repo Jul 19 10:49:11 The Hero is multitouch right? does that mean that the Magic can get it if you update the OS? Jul 19 10:50:12 maybe, but it's not clear the same ts controller is used Jul 19 10:50:35 tmzt: Do you know where that disable_sdcard parameter is coming from? Can't find any documentation on that Jul 19 10:50:38 Didn't someone make a ROM that enabled multitouch on the G1? Jul 19 10:51:16 wm_eddie: the G1's screen is capable of multitouch, not sure if the Magic's is or not Jul 19 10:51:40 Oh damn. Jul 19 10:53:54 wm_eddie: just done some googling, seems it is also Jul 19 10:54:05 sweet Jul 19 12:03:03 is there an easy way to send a SMS from the commandline? Jul 19 12:08:28 hm Jul 19 12:08:34 been playing with ms expressions a little bit Jul 19 12:08:47 and i guess it is the replacement for what the used to call .. uhm.. frontpage? :) Jul 19 12:10:51 Macer: a bit more than that Jul 19 12:11:03 tmzt: heh.. yeah. it is a tad bit more advanced Jul 19 12:11:15 i was going to try to make a site with it and see what i can do Jul 19 12:11:32 i have to set up the vhosting though first on my opensolaris box Jul 19 12:16:54 what port does jabber use in order to accept invitations from other jabber servers? Jul 19 12:17:00 the inbound port for stuff like that? Jul 19 12:17:06 it's different than the actual chatting port Jul 19 12:28:39 which sim card from a pay as you go carrier will work in my dev phone ? Jul 19 12:29:23 Arent ADP's sim unlocked so all of them *will* work Jul 19 12:29:33 You've just then got to port over the APN stuff. Jul 19 12:29:45 so will i get data too ? Jul 19 12:32:24 teratoma, if the pay as you go plan has it probably Jul 19 12:32:44 after setting APNs it should work Jul 19 12:33:57 i heard issues about different 3g frequencies Jul 19 12:34:24 well yes, depending on country/carrier you won't get 3G Jul 19 12:34:33 can you recommend a particular sim? Jul 19 12:34:41 IIRC the only place you can get 3G in US on the Dream is T-Mobile. Jul 19 12:34:50 im in us Jul 19 12:34:53 I've never used pay as you go :/. I wish I could find one with decent data plans. Jul 19 12:35:09 hmm thx Jul 19 12:35:11 Yeah, you're either going to use EDGE or T-Mobile. Jul 19 12:35:48 id be happy w tmobile if they had pay as u go but dont think they do Jul 19 12:36:11 Define pay as you go? Does that just mean pre paid or? Jul 19 12:36:38 prepaid sorry should have been more accurate Jul 19 12:37:03 I dunno I'll try to find t-mobiles prepaid data plan if they have one Jul 19 12:37:07 since I'm interested too lol Jul 19 12:37:50 if you find out, please mention my name in this channel Jul 19 12:37:59 so ill find it later Jul 19 12:38:49 afternoon all Jul 19 12:39:33 teratoma, looks like the only prepaid data option for T-Mobile is with a Sidekick. Jul 19 12:41:38 how would the phone know the difference? Jul 19 12:42:15 or wouyld tmobiles network deny non sidekick devices with such a sim? Jul 19 12:43:07 Their network would deny it. Jul 19 12:43:14 It looks like it does work for some, not for others. Jul 19 12:43:42 IIRC I've also read reports where people used old data plans (eg, $10/month) with a G1 and T-Mobile automatically switched it to the $25/month G1 data plan Jul 19 12:43:49 hmm qquite interesting thank you Jul 19 12:44:50 heh Jul 19 12:45:00 almost done getting this damn network back to the awesomeness it once was Jul 19 12:46:38 teratoma, honestly all data plans are going to be a rip off Jul 19 12:51:39 question: Jul 19 12:51:49 can any SIM card be used on T-Mobile, or does it have to be a T-Mobile one? Jul 19 12:52:00 Hello. I cannot seem to find some apps on the Market, even when I use the QR Code to search for them. I'm using Android Cupcake (1.5) on Samsung Galaxy. Jul 19 12:52:00 Anyknow know why that happens? Jul 19 12:52:51 free apps? Jul 19 12:53:32 Good question. I know that I've searched for 3 non free apps but couldn't find them. Jul 19 12:53:55 Could it be because I haven't set up a Google Checkout account yet, Jul 19 12:55:38 Gary|tp, I'm pretty sure that the G1 is locked so you'll need to unlock it first. In Europe you can ask your provider to unlock the phone after 6 months of having it. Jul 19 12:56:31 Yes I know, but I'm wondering about the SIM card itself. Can you use any SIM on T-Mobile or does it have to be a T-Mobile branded one. Jul 19 12:56:48 hi can anyone advise on building the android sources for an htc magic? Jul 19 12:57:22 I've set up the local manifest, but repo sync always bails saying that it can't find vendor/htc/dream-open Jul 19 12:58:34 Gary|tp, oh ok, sorry. Yes you should be able to use your SIM card in any unlocked phone or lock phone bought in a T-Mobile store. Jul 19 12:58:58 Wasn't what I asked... Jul 19 13:04:13 Gary|tp, If your phone is unlocked then you can use any sim on it. Otherwise you can only use sim cards from the provider, in your case T-Mobile Jul 19 13:04:33 Again, not what I asked. Just nevermind :). Jul 19 13:04:56 Gary|tp: i don't think i understand your question, in that case :) Jul 19 13:07:45 Gary|tp, well reformulate your question then because I really don't understand it then... Jul 19 13:12:20 I have a quick question about the Market: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=14851722efd4ab68&hl=en Thanks in advance! Jul 19 13:12:39 (reply to the thread, it's easier for everyone) Jul 19 13:13:24 oh just woke up to the system update Jul 19 13:21:39 i think garry was asking if you can use lets say a Vodaphone simcard to access tmobile netowrk Jul 19 13:21:44 gary* Jul 19 13:24:33 hi guys, i was wondering... i just rooted my phone, but i got an update from google. I shouldn't install those right? I'm on JF 1.51 Jul 19 13:25:45 is there an easy way to send a SMS from the commandline? Jul 19 13:26:46 * ohgood is flashing the g1 he got last night for $100.... :) Jul 19 13:27:41 wow 100$? where did you get it so cheap? Jul 19 13:27:53 craigslist... guy said it was 'broken' Jul 19 13:28:12 guess he got the 'failed to connect to google servers' and gave up Jul 19 13:28:35 lol, lucky bastard :p Jul 19 13:29:07 i told him it wasn't difficult, and the phone was likely fine. he said he bought an iphone and didn't want to 'mess with this one anymore' so i obliged Jul 19 13:30:17 ohgood: nice Jul 19 13:30:31 sooo, now i'm setting it up for the wife... she was a little jealous when i got a g1. her palm treo will be gloveboxed now :) sweet Jul 19 13:30:38 same thing happens perfectly good PCs Jul 19 13:30:50 so does anybody know? if i should update my phone? Jul 19 13:30:55 people get malwared to death, and throw out the PC instead of just reinstalling windows Jul 19 13:31:03 I've got more than one good machine out of situations like that Jul 19 13:31:11 ewon yep. now, if only macs got viruses ;) Jul 19 13:31:14 heh :) Jul 19 13:33:01 did you guys get updates from google after rooting your phone? it says it's a security fix... Jul 19 13:33:35 the gf has an iphone, and is jealous of my g1 Jul 19 13:35:54 Mercidia, ya Jul 19 13:36:01 sercurity, as in, it takes root away Jul 19 13:36:53 so i dont ever update my phone again through official means right? Jul 19 13:41:26 if your rooted then upgrade by OTA or manually with an official firmware you risk derooting yourself Jul 19 13:42:19 refuse google's updates? Jul 19 13:42:25 oops Jul 19 13:43:13 i was saying : thanks! is there a way to sutomstically refuse google updates? Jul 19 13:43:34 argh, automatically* Jul 19 13:44:27 i don't know, i assumed rooted firmwares would have done this already Jul 19 13:44:48 its only just recently i've heard people who have root still getting updates Jul 19 13:46:01 i just rooted mine yesterday and got an update this morning Jul 19 13:46:29 anyway, thanks for the help! Jul 19 13:52:14 i got rif of an iphone for my G1, its superior in every way exept build quality Jul 19 13:52:22 rid* Jul 19 13:52:46 g1 is REALLY creaky :\ Jul 19 14:02:12 no its not, http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f10/diy-creak-fix-4596/index7.html Jul 19 14:02:31 hi all Jul 19 14:02:37 i finally have android and its AWESOME Jul 19 14:02:50 opera still has irc? Jul 19 14:02:54 yes Jul 19 14:03:02 i use opera as my IRC client in windows Jul 19 14:03:14 James_B: ^^ Jul 19 14:03:17 and also as my download manager in linux Jul 19 14:03:42 anyway Jul 19 14:03:54 does anyone know if you can download google maps to the phone? Jul 19 14:04:04 waiting for the data connection to get maps takes too long Jul 19 14:04:11 umm not with the official app Jul 19 14:04:28 is there an unofficial map? Jul 19 14:04:44 Any GPS/Satnav software for android yet? Jul 19 14:04:51 have TomTom released anything? Jul 19 14:04:56 there's copilot Jul 19 14:05:03 although i do prefer garmin Jul 19 14:06:28 is copilot purely java or does it have native code? i don't have a G1 so it might not work with native code Jul 19 14:06:47 what do you have? Jul 19 14:07:01 HTC kiser Jul 19 14:07:04 Ace2017_-: Big.Planet is what you should look for to DL maps Jul 19 14:07:08 although that shouldn't be an issue, I believe it's native Jul 19 14:07:25 kaiser is armv6 also Jul 19 14:07:30 shiznebit: thanks ^^ Jul 19 14:08:32 shiznebit: so big.planet downloads a set of maps for google maps to use to my phone? Jul 19 14:08:59 oh so its just the arm version? Jul 19 14:09:03 Ace2017 you choose what to download based on the zoom level, and radis Jul 19 14:09:31 how long would it take to download the whole of europe with all zoom levels? Jul 19 14:09:40 is there a package with that info? Jul 19 14:10:17 wait a sec, wtf am i on about, the data should be in vector form, best way to save space Jul 19 14:10:22 so can it download it all? Jul 19 14:11:24 yea, but you might need a lot of space Jul 19 14:12:07 how many GB? Jul 19 14:12:17 is 2GB enough? Jul 19 14:12:31 like i said depends on zoom Jul 19 14:12:37 and radius Jul 19 14:12:53 Ace2017_-: lemme check Jul 19 14:13:18 Ace2017_-: looks like it has native code in it Jul 19 14:13:23 another issue is due to all the small little files in a hugh amount, unmounting your phone from usb will take an agonizing long time Jul 19 14:13:27 Ace2017_-: ask vol about it ;) Jul 19 14:13:41 hopefully the demo would show if it works or not Jul 19 14:13:44 well, he might be vol_ permanently i dunno Jul 19 14:14:26 Ace2017_-: the native code looks pretty extensive, though some of that might be a standard C library or something Jul 19 14:15:47 can android share its sdcard with linux? Jul 19 14:15:56 i don't want to stay in vista for too long Jul 19 14:16:01 yes Jul 19 14:16:10 ok i'll brb Jul 19 14:16:15 it's a standard mass storage class device Jul 19 14:16:23 hm. core2duo is encoding standard def @ 100fps Jul 19 14:16:32 i wonder what newer hardware would do :) Jul 19 14:16:36 * Macer pictures 1000fps Jul 19 14:17:00 Macer: nvidia can do that :) Jul 19 14:17:01 maybe use some gpu stuff too Jul 19 14:17:02 heh Jul 19 14:17:06 what codec/quality? Jul 19 14:17:19 h264/aac Jul 19 14:17:37 the video is 640x480 ... so nothing spectacular Jul 19 14:17:41 x264 ? Jul 19 14:17:50 Macer: i found out something about the touchbook thats really disappointing Jul 19 14:17:59 shiznebit: that it will never be released? Jul 19 14:18:00 haha Jul 19 14:18:07 what's that? Jul 19 14:18:14 Macer: doesn't take spectacular to make h.264 encoding slow.. that's one whore of a codec :P Jul 19 14:18:21 no webcam ;) Jul 19 14:18:26 zinx: but it is so pretty when it's done ;) Jul 19 14:18:38 PowerVR is completely closed source and they dont want to release drivers ::( Jul 19 14:18:46 PowerVR? Jul 19 14:19:09 thats the graphics processor on the OMAP board Jul 19 14:19:11 is that like some glasses that you attach to your face and walk through the touch book with? Jul 19 14:19:14 oh Jul 19 14:19:30 meaning that only commercial products will use the processor? Jul 19 14:19:33 :) Jul 19 14:20:18 er.. gpu Jul 19 14:20:29 no meaning we dont get anything because Imagination Technologies is too fucking lazy and dont want to release the IP and documentation Jul 19 14:20:52 uh oh, looks like this phone really does have a radio problem ... Jul 19 14:20:59 shiznebit: hm Jul 19 14:21:10 so you're saying joe coder can not make apps for it? Jul 19 14:21:36 don't beagleboards have powerVR gpus? Jul 19 14:21:44 yep Jul 19 14:21:50 they have the same problem Jul 19 14:21:55 its all software rendered Jul 19 14:21:59 so the problem is TI? Jul 19 14:22:05 or arm? Jul 19 14:22:26 well TI for using PowerVR's core Jul 19 14:22:28 are you saying that ... there won't be any 3d accel for the touch book? Jul 19 14:22:35 yea Jul 19 14:22:37 ohgood: that the one you got for $100? Jul 19 14:22:46 wtf? :) Jul 19 14:22:54 maybe not Jul 19 14:23:02 they might release proprietary bin drivers Jul 19 14:23:08 James_B, lol, yep Jul 19 14:23:13 just because the drivers aren't "open" doesn't mean they won't be released Jul 19 14:23:16 http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=50933 Jul 19 14:23:26 ohgood: ah, whats the issue? :\ Jul 19 14:23:39 James_B, i was going to root the phone, but the radio never connects to google servers. Jul 19 14:23:40 read and cry Jul 19 14:24:12 James_B, i haven't used the phone yet with att... that's what i'm trying to do now, but it never shows a cellular connection Jul 19 14:24:15 shiznebit: haha Jul 19 14:24:21 did an n800 have a 3d accel gpu in it? Jul 19 14:24:29 yea Jul 19 14:24:34 wow no kidding Jul 19 14:24:41 ohgood: uh oh, well best of luck with getting it fixed ^^ Jul 19 14:24:45 i bet it would have been a lot better if it had drivers huh? haha Jul 19 14:24:52 same PowerVR as the beagleboard Jul 19 14:24:55 i didn't know that Jul 19 14:24:59 James_B, i'm thinking it needs a radio flash, but i don't know. looking around now. Jul 19 14:25:21 intel GMA500 is also a PowerVR core Jul 19 14:25:21 shiznebit: so it's really a matter of the reseller paying arm or ti more money ? Jul 19 14:25:53 more for PowerVR to release documentation Jul 19 14:26:19 with that the community could make the drivers Jul 19 14:26:20 beagleboard will have the drivers nou there are beta drivers out there Jul 19 14:26:40 shiznebit: i think you're reading too much into it :) Jul 19 14:26:50 i'm sure the drivers will surface Jul 19 14:27:12 especially since the A8 arms with the PowerVR cores are supposed to be the "next big netbook thing" Jul 19 14:27:42 eithe rway it goes i've been using an aspireone and it totally sucks for battery life so i think i can deal with not having 3d accel on something i wouldn't use for games anyways ;) Jul 19 14:27:45 i hope your right, and Im wrong Jul 19 14:28:02 shiznebit: if worse comes to worst.. there's always ms based products Jul 19 14:28:07 i'm sure they have drivers! haha Jul 19 14:28:08 ok, where would i find a radio fix for rc29... or is it supposed to be needed after flashing rc29 ? Jul 19 14:28:39 Macer: if that happens ill happily jump of MS building Jul 19 14:28:50 HAHA Jul 19 14:28:59 maybe google chrome os will have powervr drivers ;) Jul 19 14:29:03 i'm sure google will fix all Jul 19 14:29:04 haha Jul 19 14:29:26 google is like brainiac from justice league Jul 19 14:29:39 * Macer grins.. i have been watching way too many cartoons with my son Jul 19 14:29:46 heh Jul 19 14:29:52 does anyone know where i can get a comparitive list of the rooted Roms? i want to compare them and see if its worth rooting Jul 19 14:29:53 bbl.. going to take a nap and watch hd watchmen ;) Jul 19 14:30:14 the time i saw it.. it was some horrible bootlegged copy someone had bought from a crackhead at some hotdog stand Jul 19 14:30:22 good movie though :) Jul 19 14:30:54 everybody was expecting another xmen.. i thought watchmen pulled off a good storyline Jul 19 14:31:01 okbye Jul 19 14:31:23 ya, can't connect to att... this is going to be not fun Jul 19 14:31:25 James_B: just use the JF rom Jul 19 14:31:31 HD big blue penis Jul 19 14:31:38 ohgood: why would you be able to connect to att? Jul 19 14:31:49 att only allows edge Jul 19 14:31:54 Macer: what advnatages doe sit offer, besides multitouch? Jul 19 14:31:57 g1/adp1 doesn't do att 3G Jul 19 14:32:15 advantages does it* Jul 19 14:32:26 Macer, att is my cellular provider, the phone is unlocked... Jul 19 14:32:27 James_B: root access (which comes in handy) also updates are easier to come by rather than waiting for a hone company that always seems 10 months behind the curve Jul 19 14:32:32 ohgood: doesn't matter Jul 19 14:32:35 ohgood: you won't get 3G Jul 19 14:32:37 id there something like graphviz for android ? Jul 19 14:32:41 the hardware in the phone is not capable of att 3G Jul 19 14:32:50 radio update or not Jul 19 14:32:51 either use the JFROM or Cyanogen's ROM Jul 19 14:32:54 macer, 3g doesn't matter. it uses edge just fine. Jul 19 14:33:02 then what's the problem? Jul 19 14:33:03 :) Jul 19 14:33:04 teratoma: what does graphviz do? Jul 19 14:33:10 both are stable and wont destroy your phone Jul 19 14:33:14 sammyF: it draws directed/undirected graphs Jul 19 14:33:19 macer, it's not connecting to att, so i can't set it up :( Jul 19 14:33:32 it's out the box unlocked? Jul 19 14:33:38 doesn't android let you skip the reg screen? Jul 19 14:33:44 macer , my apn is set correctly, just like my -other- g1, but not connecting to att. Jul 19 14:33:47 the developer version Jul 19 14:33:54 no, rc29 doesn't allow it ,that i know of Jul 19 14:33:56 Macer: the AOSP / ADP1 firmwares do Jul 19 14:34:00 RC29 doesn't Jul 19 14:34:02 oh, ok Jul 19 14:34:06 oh Jul 19 14:34:07 that sucks Jul 19 14:34:09 zinx, AOSP ? Jul 19 14:34:11 sammyf - diagramming program , there is an iphone version Jul 19 14:34:15 i don't know about T-Mobile's or HTC's firmware.. or Rogers's for that matter Jul 19 14:34:16 try a different sim Jul 19 14:34:20 use someone's tmob sim and try it Jul 19 14:34:21 ohgood: uhm, check channel topic? Jul 19 14:34:23 just to get it registered Jul 19 14:34:29 teratoma: don't think there's one yet. you're welcome to write one :P Jul 19 14:34:31 zinx, slap me, sorry about that. :) Jul 19 14:34:43 then swap out the tmob one for the att one Jul 19 14:34:50 ? i guess that's all i can tell y ou to do :) Jul 19 14:35:03 i despise att so i won't help you any further haha Jul 19 14:35:17 i don't think there is an AT&T rom yet Jul 19 14:35:18 i mean i just have the utmost contempt for them Jul 19 14:35:24 ok i'm back in linux Jul 19 14:35:31 its interesing how they have hardware lock a phone to one company due to 3G support Jul 19 14:35:46 shiznebit: well. don't really think it was their fault Jul 19 14:35:53 fcc said tmob had to use a different freq ;) Jul 19 14:36:04 zinx, mmm, is that a link to just the SDK's ? that won't help, as i'm on a powerpc mac, and they don't support ppc processors Jul 19 14:36:04 i think it's 1700 or something? Jul 19 14:36:05 heh Jul 19 14:36:18 Can android use my desktop's data connection through usb? Jul 19 14:36:27 which really sucked because my n95 couldn't use tmob 3G :( Jul 19 14:36:30 i miss my n95 Jul 19 14:36:35 ohgood: AOSP is the full thing o_O Jul 19 14:36:48 i almost got an n95, but i went with this Jul 19 14:36:51 would it not occur to them to inculde an antenna for all frequencies Jul 19 14:36:55 ohgood: i.e., the source.. to both the OS and the SDK Jul 19 14:37:02 n95 is great for the cam Jul 19 14:37:08 zinx, confused Jul 19 14:37:09 and the hardware Jul 19 14:37:16 ohgood: though i think ppc probably still isn't supported.. you should probably get a newer machine :P Jul 19 14:37:17 G1 is better for overall use for communication Jul 19 14:37:17 heh Jul 19 14:37:20 shiznebit: well the phone is jam packed with so many features they probably didn't have space Jul 19 14:37:29 shiznebit: it's a little more than that Jul 19 14:37:32 no tmob 3G on n95 tho Jul 19 14:37:33 zinx, ya, that was my point. Jul 19 14:37:44 tmzt: how more ? Jul 19 14:37:55 i think the only phone that supports tmob 3G is an e71 (and other crappy phones that most wouldn't use nowadays) Jul 19 14:38:02 e71 is nice tho :) Jul 19 14:38:23 but i sure miss my n95 cam.. and coupling it with a bt keyboard and using openoffice instead of lugging around a laptop Jul 19 14:38:27 ok i have to go Jul 19 14:38:32 than the frequencies the antenna supports Jul 19 14:38:37 ok, here's the thing. my current g1 works with this sim (att) just fine. i've flashed the 'new' phone to rc29, and inserted the sim, (this is an unlocked phone) but it won't connect, so doing anything else, is difficult. Jul 19 14:38:38 seeya Macer Jul 19 14:39:27 ohgood: i think you need the APN's Jul 19 14:39:32 openoffice? Jul 19 14:39:43 on the n95? Jul 19 14:39:56 shiznebit, i've copied (written down) the apn directly from the working phone to the non-connecting phone. :| Jul 19 14:41:02 ohgood: if your on the rc29 just root the phone Jul 19 14:41:13 install JF's ROM Jul 19 14:41:51 shiznebit, i didn't think rooting was possible until it was registered ? Jul 19 14:42:14 no, you don't need to register it Jul 19 14:42:23 oooo k Jul 19 14:42:25 but it's tricky to do without registering Jul 19 14:42:34 :/ Jul 19 14:42:59 meaning i need a SDK and all zinx ? Jul 19 14:43:23 guess thats another problem with RC29 ( released broken) Jul 19 14:43:24 ohgood: i didn't catch what you were trying to do :/ Jul 19 14:43:34 ok. summary, again. Jul 19 14:43:56 oh, root your phone? Jul 19 14:44:02 you need adb at the very least Jul 19 14:44:08 RC29 is horribly busted. Jul 19 14:44:23 i have a 'new' g1, which i've flashed to rc29. it has been unlocked, and i have a working att sim card in it. when i power on the 'new' phone, which has the APN's from the other working G1 input, it doesnt not connect. Jul 19 14:44:38 * ohgood waits for the summary to soak in... Jul 19 14:45:07 i don't really know how to help you if all you have to work with is an outdated mac :/ Jul 19 14:45:29 well, i did this on the first g1, it worked fine. Jul 19 14:45:48 this is why i'm puzzled, and confused Jul 19 14:46:23 dunno :/ Jul 19 14:47:47 ok, you (or someone) said rc29 was way busted. i'll try JFv1.5.0 ADP1.5 and see if that helps. you think ? Jul 19 14:49:18 you need to switch to something newer, yes Jul 19 14:49:31 i thought you were having trouble switching to a newer firmware :x Jul 19 14:50:15 no, i can switch firmwares fine enough. i'm just having trouble with the initial registering... on an att sim. ya, i know, att sucks, but it's who i use right now. Jul 19 14:50:22 hi all Jul 19 14:50:28 i'm downloading adp1.5 or whatever now. we'll see how it goes. Jul 19 14:50:54 any ITAlian developer here? In particular I've a question about wich HTC Magic choose (vodafone or Tim) :) Jul 19 14:51:40 ohgood: ok, yeah, switch away from RC29.. the only reason to use RC29 is to be able to flash something better Jul 19 14:53:49 doing it now.. Jul 19 14:57:41 Andy80: me Jul 19 15:00:57 my mac, uhm, well, crashed. :| Jul 19 15:21:11 is there a HowTo for connecting android and linux? Jul 19 15:21:27 maybe a google app that runs on linux taht can sync the phone and the desktop? Jul 19 15:21:42 it syncs with google Jul 19 15:22:15 how can i view the SD card on the phone with linux? Jul 19 15:22:30 kais? Jul 19 15:22:31 and how can i access the phone's command line, typing commands on the keyboard is a real pita Jul 19 15:22:32 plug in the usb cable, hit the button on the phone Jul 19 15:22:39 kais? Jul 19 15:22:40 the image I've seen doesn't work Jul 19 15:22:44 adb for command line Jul 19 15:22:46 kiaser Jul 19 15:22:49 yea Jul 19 15:22:50 kaiser Jul 19 15:23:00 what android are you using? Jul 19 15:23:03 zinx: can access its command line Jul 19 15:23:06 tmzt: 1.5 Jul 19 15:23:15 from where? Jul 19 15:23:30 xda developers, but i want to roll my own Jul 19 15:25:13 and so far everything apart from camera, wifi and bluetooth seems to work fine Jul 19 15:25:25 i'm trying to install adp1.5, the official htc/tmobile one, but the signed-dream_devphone-blah zip isn't working. it says it fails checks or something. any ideas ? Jul 19 15:25:47 you can disable the check Jul 19 15:25:51 i remember seeing it somewhere Jul 19 15:25:59 yes, the problem is the sd card is used as your filesystem for mounting system and data images, and vold doesn't support that Jul 19 15:26:27 ugh, so i have to use a usb/computer connection to do it ? ( i can't use the sdk because i'm on ppc ) Jul 19 15:26:34 I think it works if you partition the card, but it depends on the exact scripts you use to run android Jul 19 15:29:23 so, i can't update to adp 1.5, because of the checks ? Jul 19 15:37:49 how can you quit an application? Jul 19 15:38:15 i ran task killer and it turns out i've left things running in the background Jul 19 15:49:40 acording to http://www.htc.com/www/support/android/adp.html#s6 i should be able to boot a adp1.1 image, and upgrade radio, from the device, right ? Jul 19 15:50:59 ohgood: is that for the G1? Jul 19 15:51:20 yes Jul 19 15:51:30 then i don't know, but others here will Jul 19 15:54:01 this isn't working. no mater what method i try, i cannot install adp1.1 on the device, nor can iupdate the radio Jul 19 15:57:34 hello ppl Jul 19 15:57:36 what is the ups Jul 19 16:01:13 hi all Jul 19 16:02:15 lo Jul 19 16:06:16 hows everyone one doing Jul 19 16:06:22 im so hungover today Jul 19 16:06:28 had my stag do last night Jul 19 16:08:19 so it's kind of a bitch to tether an android phone in Ubuntu right now eh ? Jul 19 16:11:40 jpa--: poor you Jul 19 16:12:37 i was asking a question Jul 19 16:12:37 silly canadian Jul 19 16:12:53 I am not Canadian :p Jul 19 16:13:29 then get out of my country Jul 19 16:13:29 :P Jul 19 16:13:35 and I just find it depressing that your still fighting to get tethering to work Jul 19 16:13:49 jpa--: I am applying to get permanent resident Jul 19 16:14:12 awesome Jul 19 16:14:12 where you from originally ? Jul 19 16:14:22 France Jul 19 16:14:43 oh that's why you called the french in Canada, "fake french" :P Jul 19 16:14:57 how long have you been in Canada? Jul 19 16:15:27 4years Jul 19 16:15:45 If I dont get permanent resident I ll kill myself Jul 19 16:16:21 i dont see why they wouldn't grant you if you have a decent job and living situation Jul 19 16:17:13 the main criteria for residency in Canada is basically just being a productive member of society Jul 19 16:18:28 and yes it's quite depressing that i'm still fighting to get tethering to work (properly) Jul 19 16:19:12 im tethered using azilink in windowsxp right now... seems to be working fine.. now im trying to take the steps to get tethering to work in ubuntt Jul 19 16:19:13 ubuntu Jul 19 16:19:35 jpa--, I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work in any Linux so long as it can associate with an ad hoc AP. Jul 19 16:20:03 but one hang-up i seem to be encountering is the fact that part of the instructions say i have to "sudo apt-get install openVPN" from the respositories.. buuut.. without tethering first.. i won't have internet in order to do so Jul 19 16:20:03 heh Jul 19 16:20:33 apeiron: the HTC Magic that was released in Canada on from Rogers Wireless is apparently slightly different Jul 19 16:20:45 ah. Jul 19 16:20:45 something about it doesn't support netfilter/iptables Jul 19 16:20:48 Also, OpenVPN for tethering? wtf? Jul 19 16:20:57 yeah i dunno Jul 19 16:20:57 azilink is weird Jul 19 16:21:15 http://code.google.com/p/azilink/ Jul 19 16:21:22 I don't have a Magic, so I can't say whether it'll be easy or not. Jul 19 16:21:25 that's what i followed Jul 19 16:21:51 yeah, that seems to be one problem im having.. like no one has the phone i have.. and if they do, tethering isn't an issue for them because they either don't use it.. or they have a UK version of the phone or something Jul 19 16:22:06 or they're genius coders and can compile their own kernel that supports iptables Jul 19 16:22:16 which is waaaayy about my little pothead head Jul 19 16:22:40 jpa--: why dont you change the build then? Jul 19 16:22:56 i've tried 4 different roms Jul 19 16:23:09 all of them return the same error when i try using Wifi Tether for root users, or aNetShare Jul 19 16:23:22 haha, who chooses 192.168.56.1 as an IP? Jul 19 16:23:27 10.x.x.x, use it, fgt Jul 19 16:23:59 i didn't set anything Jul 19 16:24:11 I know. I'm saying that the author of this app is silly for choosing that IP. Jul 19 16:24:49 following all the steps.. once i got to the last step, my computer recognized the connection and rcv'd an ip automaticallly Jul 19 16:25:00 but... Jul 19 16:25:02 oh Jul 19 16:25:44 heh. USB-based tethering. Jul 19 16:26:11 Wonder if that's due to a technical restriction in the Magic or just because this app author feels like being different. Jul 19 16:26:32 well like i said.. i can't tether using any app that requires netfilter/iptables (whatever that means) Jul 19 16:26:41 plus my computer is old & im not sure it supports ad hoc Jul 19 16:26:51 It means that you don't have a firmware that has those drivers. Jul 19 16:27:06 When I upgraded to 1.5 from my unlocked ADP1, I had to get a different kernel image. Jul 19 16:27:15 Maybe you can do the same thing? Jul 19 16:27:33 probably, considering part of the error message i get says something about updating kernel version Jul 19 16:27:45 when i mentioned that in here earlier this week, someone said "well just flash a different rom then" Jul 19 16:27:55 right, it's not hard. Jul 19 16:28:08 ive tried Fatal1tys Hero rom, Rogers HoFo Rom, Nk02 ION rom, and a few others Jul 19 16:28:13 I have no idea if the Magic and Dream have incompatible ROMs, so the hard part is finding it. Jul 19 16:28:24 thing is.. on Rogers released devices, apparently we have to be careful about flashing roms that aren't "rogers signed" Jul 19 16:28:25 otherwise it wont work Jul 19 16:28:47 yeah i have to wait for roms to be properly ported to the magic Jul 19 16:29:04 all the roms that have been ported so far, dont seem to support netfilter/iptables Jul 19 16:29:15 and ive just been going in circles browsing forums and stuff so meh Jul 19 16:29:22 think i'll have to stick with Azlink and stay in winxp for now Jul 19 16:58:14 what version of linux is android based on Jul 19 16:59:36 what's the newest version JF build? Jul 19 16:59:48 err newest JF build version ? Jul 19 17:04:07 devslash: it only uses the kernel afaik Jul 19 17:04:58 jpa--, 1.51 Jul 19 17:06:43 oh o k Jul 19 17:10:59 could anybody help me with this: http://pastebin.com/m6cd0ec56 I'm getting sigsegv Jul 19 17:14:52 I am running JF 1.51 BUT Jul 19 17:15:03 Last night I got a "security update" warning from Google Jul 19 17:15:23 I am guessing it wants me to "upgrade" to Google's 1.5 builds Jul 19 17:15:29 JesusFreke: know anything about this? Jul 19 17:15:41 Did Google get around whatever JesusFreke put in his build to diable updates from Google like that? Jul 19 17:15:54 This is with a G1 with a T-Mobile contract Jul 19 17:15:57 no. I just missed deleting otacerts.zip :) Jul 19 17:16:15 What is otacerts.zip? Jul 19 17:16:26 /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip Jul 19 17:16:36 it contains the certificate that is used to validate OTAs Jul 19 17:16:37 JesusFreke: So... delete that file? Jul 19 17:16:54 yes, but keep in mind that it will continually try to download the OTA Jul 19 17:17:00 Do if they are not validated, they won't come? Jul 19 17:17:03 so it's not a great solution Jul 19 17:17:15 it will download the OTA, fail to verify, and download it again Jul 19 17:17:18 rinse, repeat Jul 19 17:17:32 That's pretty annoying. And each time it'll pop up a message? Jul 19 17:17:38 no, it won't Jul 19 17:17:49 but it will probably affect battery life Jul 19 17:17:55 Wait, what? Jul 19 17:18:00 can't you just turn off updates Jul 19 17:18:04 nope Jul 19 17:18:07 Is there no way to just disable OTA updating? Jul 19 17:18:14 hrm, im glad i haven't received any notifications from it Jul 19 17:18:16 a better (temporary) solution is to grab /system/build.prop from my adp1 build, and use that instead Jul 19 17:18:19 What about rebuilding it from source with the OTA update code ripped out? Jul 19 17:18:36 or change carrier Jul 19 17:18:38 i dont' want to throw another rom on the phone, it's such a boring process even if it doesn't take long Jul 19 17:18:40 EugeneOmnom: the OTA update code is proprietary, iirc. Jul 19 17:18:51 MoonUnit: has nothing to do with carrier, afaik Jul 19 17:19:02 i downloaded the live android.how can i install it to a disk Jul 19 17:19:06 why doesn't my phone show that update, is it only in some area? Jul 19 17:19:06 never had an update on o2 Jul 19 17:19:10 EugeneOmnom: so it would have to be smali'ed :) Jul 19 17:19:19 Well my friend doesn't have 3G and he doesn't get anything on T-Mobile Jul 19 17:19:20 is there a terminal on android Jul 19 17:19:23 Ok.... so the ADP1 builds of yours aren't auto-updating? Jul 19 17:19:23 He has a pre-paid SIM Jul 19 17:19:32 That is, don't try to fail-update. Jul 19 17:19:32 MoonUnit: it's based on what build you have installed. not on what carrier you are on Jul 19 17:19:34 devslash: ConnectBot is a good terminal app Jul 19 17:19:40 ok Jul 19 17:19:45 i think he means local terminal app Jul 19 17:19:46 EugeneOmnom: right, ADP1 builds doesn't update Jul 19 17:19:51 JF 1.51 Jul 19 17:19:59 yes Jul 19 17:19:59 hahh Jul 19 17:20:01 grindking: Recent ConnectBot versions can do local as well as telnet and SSH Jul 19 17:20:02 shows i just woke up Jul 19 17:20:06 * EugeneOmnom switches builds right quick Jul 19 17:20:06 is that free ? Jul 19 17:20:07 im arunning adp1, forgot updates disabled Jul 19 17:20:11 I'm planning on releasing a new CRC1 version "soon" Jul 19 17:20:20 tpocra: oh wow really? Jul 19 17:20:22 that's awesome Jul 19 17:20:22 ok, what can i install on my g1 without usb access, root, or sdk ? Jul 19 17:20:26 and I'll try to address this :) Jul 19 17:20:35 ohgood - nothing? Jul 19 17:20:36 tpocra: is that free ? Jul 19 17:20:43 devslash: yes Jul 19 17:20:45 EugeneOmnom, can't install from the sdcard ? Jul 19 17:20:47 you can install a broken rom and break usb root sdk :D Jul 19 17:21:04 If you can get stuff onto the sdcard Jul 19 17:21:15 Ie, download it via WiFi, I'm guessing Jul 19 17:21:20 No USB access makes it a pain, though Jul 19 17:21:22 EugeneOmnom, i have a cardreader, and an old mac Jul 19 17:21:26 ok i need your guys' help. im running live android im vmware. where do i go to download it. im new to android Jul 19 17:21:28 JesusFreke: can't we block the update address? Jul 19 17:21:29 Well then you're set. Jul 19 17:21:41 Just follow the rooting guides Jul 19 17:21:43 EugeneOmnom, well, yes and no, this phone isn't registered yet, and does not have root Jul 19 17:21:51 PMs Jul 19 17:22:13 wingless: with what? android doesn't have a hosts file does it? Jul 19 17:22:18 anyone Jul 19 17:22:34 wingless: I guess you could do it with iptables Jul 19 17:26:05 guys i'm running jf firmware 1.5 and i just recived a message for a 1.5 update is this just the normal version of cupcake ? and since i'musing jf should i not get these updates ? Jul 19 17:26:33 hey hey hey Jul 19 17:28:23 Refuge: We were just talking about this Jul 19 17:28:52 what's going on Jul 19 17:28:53 ? Jul 19 17:28:59 me and my gf recived this message Jul 19 17:29:14 JFbuild doesn't block the auto-updating Jul 19 17:29:25 ohh Jul 19 17:29:28 he left the propriety bits in that handle over-the-air updating Jul 19 17:29:32 so it's just trying to push the normal cupcake out? Jul 19 17:29:35 I missed deleting otacerts.zip in that build Jul 19 17:29:42 Refuge: no, it's the new CRC1 build Jul 19 17:29:50 http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/WireStory?id=8119377&page=1 Jul 19 17:29:53 smallish update. probably security fixes Jul 19 17:29:54 But it sounds like deleting otacerts.zip is a really bad idea Jul 19 17:30:09 why would this throw a null pointer exception views.setBitmap(R.id.drive, "setImageBitmap", BitmapFactory.decodeResource(context.getResources(), R.id.phone)); Jul 19 17:30:13 So, nothing really worth messing with just bug fixes? Jul 19 17:30:17 The whole auto-updating mechanism needs to be able to be cleanly disabled Jul 19 17:30:19 yeah, probably Jul 19 17:30:29 Do, you plan on patching this? Jul 19 17:30:30 jf Jul 19 17:30:39 yes, I'll release a new build based on CRC1 Jul 19 17:30:50 Good Jul 19 17:30:52 i'll wait Jul 19 17:30:58 with OTA stuff disabled in a better way (now that I have smali/baksmali :D) Jul 19 17:31:02 i would hate to lose root ? Jul 19 17:31:04 would i Jul 19 17:31:13 Refuge: even if you tried to install it, it wouldn't install Jul 19 17:31:22 ohh Jul 19 17:31:24 really Jul 19 17:31:27 good Jul 19 17:31:37 Refuge: so there's no danger that you'll lose root. it's just the annoyance of the popups Jul 19 17:31:51 shouldn't topic be changed to 1.5_r3 ? Jul 19 17:32:07 anyone have details on the new release? Jul 19 17:32:13 and what it has Jul 19 17:32:23 or fixes ect... Jul 19 17:32:32 shiznebit: have they tagged it in AOSP? Jul 19 17:32:33 JesusFreke: The popups AND the downloads Jul 19 17:32:40 tpocra: of course Jul 19 17:32:49 http://developer.android.com/index.html Jul 19 17:32:58 The popups go away if otacerts.zip is deleted... but NOT the downloads? Jul 19 17:33:01 i'm wanting a bluetooth push utility that actualy works that would be the only reason i would want to try and keep the update. Jul 19 17:33:05 tpocra: correct Jul 19 17:33:23 How often will it download? Jul 19 17:33:29 oo, yeah. they tagged _r3 in AOSP Jul 19 17:33:34 tpocra: I'm not positive Jul 19 17:33:43 tpocra: fairly frequently I Think Jul 19 17:34:02 JesusFreke: why is the update code necessary? Jul 19 17:34:34 it isn't Jul 19 17:34:43 but it hasn't been possible to remove it until now Jul 19 17:34:46 (smali/baksmali) Jul 19 17:34:49 i really dont see much information about the new update. Jul 19 17:35:21 why does this : Jul 19 17:35:22 RemoteViews views = new RemoteViews(context.getPackageName(), R.layout.widget_word); Jul 19 17:35:22 // views.setImageViewResource(R.id.drive, R.drawable.smallfonefinal); Jul 19 17:35:22 Jul 19 17:35:22 views.setBitmap(R.id.drive, "setImageBitmap", BitmapFactory.decodeResource(context.getResources(), R.drawable.drivingcar)); Jul 19 17:35:26 not change my buttons image Jul 19 17:35:44 dassdsda3: pastebin :p Jul 19 17:35:48 soz Jul 19 17:36:10 so.. Jul 19 17:36:18 why doesnt it change the image buttons pic Jul 19 17:36:19 wb Jul 19 17:37:44 JesusFreke: what part does the update? Jul 19 17:37:53 hmm so where the entire change list for r3 Jul 19 17:38:27 anybody................ Jul 19 17:38:42 JesusFreke - any idea why the SU Request manager is a complete whore on the US build? Jul 19 17:38:54 EugeneKay: it works fine for me Jul 19 17:39:23 :-/Maybe it'll work on the ADP builp Jul 19 17:39:44 could anybody help me with this?: http://pastebin.com/m6cd0ec56 I'm getting sigsegv Jul 19 17:39:59 what's the newest build you've released? Jul 19 17:40:00 jf Jul 19 17:40:16 hellooo!??! Jul 19 17:40:27 how do i change the image on an image button in an appwidget Jul 19 17:40:32 dassdsda3 - we haven't a clue. Being annoying will likely lead to a kickban, so watch out. Jul 19 17:40:38 Try #android-dev Jul 19 17:40:47 cos the views.setBitmap(id,"setImageBitmap",Bitmap) aint working Jul 19 17:40:57 EugeneKay: did you chown su? Jul 19 17:40:59 hi Jul 19 17:41:01 i want to know how to get the application object from within a view object existing in that application. can anyone help on that question? Jul 19 17:41:14 e.g. within a android.widget.Button object i want to get a pointer to its application Jul 19 17:41:23 Was I supposed to? >_> Jul 19 17:41:37 yes afaik Jul 19 17:41:47 That could be it <_< Jul 19 17:42:06 Permissions Fixes sounds like PIA, glad we have root Jul 19 17:42:34 huh? Jul 19 17:42:40 you shouldn't need to do anything to su Jul 19 17:42:55 *should*. Jul 19 17:43:26 jf knows better *shrug* Jul 19 17:43:27 is the update mandatory ? Jul 19 17:43:36 THe superuser permissions app comes up as a black screen for me. Jul 19 17:43:45 anyone on rogers try a JF Build ? Jul 19 17:43:48 with htc magic ? Jul 19 17:44:39 EugeneKay: yeah. if you haven't clicked "allow" for an su request, it will be blank Jul 19 17:45:00 EugeneKay: because there are no "allow" entries to show/edit Jul 19 17:45:01 No, I mean *black* Jul 19 17:45:06 yeah? Jul 19 17:45:12 No title bar. Jul 19 17:45:17 like it doesn't work ? Jul 19 17:45:24 pic ? Jul 19 17:45:25 Doing "su" in terminal takes me to the same black screen Jul 19 17:45:37 ah, k. then yeah, that's not right :) Jul 19 17:45:39 And then after a while I get a Force CLose message for Superuser Permissions Jul 19 17:45:48 shiznebit - screenshot would be a black screen. Jul 19 17:45:55 :P Jul 19 17:45:57 480x320 of #000000 Jul 19 17:46:02 did you ever wipe after installing the build though? :) Jul 19 17:46:33 I wiped when I went to my current build. Jul 19 17:47:18 JesusFreke: I chmod 000 the zip file in /cache that is the download Jul 19 17:47:30 I didn't remove otacerts.zip Jul 19 17:47:30 I suppose I could wipe again, for shits and giggles Jul 19 17:47:35 tpocra: that should probably work Jul 19 17:47:38 So maybe, because it can't overwrite the download file, it will stop Jul 19 17:49:17 does android use ext3 file system ? Jul 19 17:49:24 anyone came up with a fast fix for the stupid popups Jul 19 17:49:24 ? Jul 19 17:49:31 fat Jul 19 17:49:42 what popups? Jul 19 17:49:49 refuge it uses fat ? Jul 19 17:49:53 System update popups Jul 19 17:50:04 fat32 i thought Jul 19 17:50:06 maybe not Jul 19 17:50:10 i dunno Jul 19 17:50:14 does anyone here know Jul 19 17:50:22 fat32 Jul 19 17:50:34 ok Jul 19 17:50:40 thought so Jul 19 17:50:41 but that's for the sd Jul 19 17:50:44 never seen any system update popups Jul 19 17:50:46 sorry Jul 19 17:51:00 not the internal filesystems Jul 19 17:51:11 yea Jul 19 17:51:19 internal is probably a linux Jul 19 17:51:20 format Jul 19 17:53:12 yaffs Jul 19 17:55:26 Refuge: do you have connectbot installed Jul 19 17:55:29 who here has that installed Jul 19 17:56:15 JesusFreke: isnt the update code open sauce? Jul 19 17:58:03 i do dev Jul 19 17:59:50 who here has connectbot installed ? Jul 19 18:00:12 there's a connectbot channel, #connectbot Jul 19 18:00:24 i dont care about that Jul 19 18:00:37 i cant install it because i dont have an android. im only running live android Jul 19 18:04:06 i do dev Jul 19 18:09:05 FYI: http://jf.andblogs.net/2009/07/19/otas-in-jfv1-51/ Jul 19 18:09:45 is it a mandatory update ? Jul 19 18:11:34 hmm Jul 19 18:11:38 jpa--: are you talking to me? Jul 19 18:11:42 chmoding the file seems to be a good method Jul 19 18:11:47 i think he was Jul 19 18:11:59 JesusFreke: anyone who knows about the OTA update Jul 19 18:12:08 JesusFreke: even if your phone says its an adp1 already? Jul 19 18:12:16 fleebailey33: ... read my post :p Jul 19 18:12:20 i havn't had any popups, but if i check manually its there. Jul 19 18:12:21 i did Jul 19 18:12:22 :P Jul 19 18:13:22 do we know what it does yet? Jul 19 18:13:27 * fleebailey33 chekcs forums Jul 19 18:13:35 how do you force a check in 1.5? heh Jul 19 18:13:47 go to about Jul 19 18:13:50 check for update Jul 19 18:13:57 ah, right Jul 19 18:13:59 it sees it there, hasn't bugged me otherwise Jul 19 18:14:32 fleebailey33: you're sure you're on ADP? Jul 19 18:14:49 fleebailey33: the "real" adp. not the holiday build :) Jul 19 18:14:53 maybe one day, I ll start thinking about trying to, perhaps, develop an application for Android Jul 19 18:15:03 cn latest build Jul 19 18:15:09 about my phone says i am Jul 19 18:15:23 "Android Dev Phone 1" Jul 19 18:15:51 fleebailey33: and it's my rom? and it says Firmware Version 1.5? Jul 19 18:16:08 no, cynagon rom Jul 19 18:16:12 yes it does Jul 19 18:16:13 oh. n/m then Jul 19 18:16:17 Actually what do I need to develop an app for Android Jul 19 18:16:19 sorry =/ Jul 19 18:16:21 I dunno what build his is based on Jul 19 18:16:26 JesusFreke: yours Jul 19 18:16:29 :P Jul 19 18:16:36 zelrikriando: eclipse Jul 19 18:16:45 fleebailey33: and? that s it? Jul 19 18:16:47 anyway... Jul 19 18:18:14 JesusFreke: have you examined the update? Jul 19 18:18:26 do we know what it does? havn't been able to find a thread.. Jul 19 18:22:43 fleebailey33: I guess I need the sdk also ? Jul 19 18:22:55 that would probably help Jul 19 18:23:33 fleebailey33: It's like the first time I am gonna try to develop an app for public use Jul 19 18:23:45 I am kind of a noob :) Jul 19 18:23:53 i havnt tried on android Jul 19 18:23:59 i just hang out here Jul 19 18:24:01 zelrikriando: yes. and you need to know java Jul 19 18:24:20 I dont know java Jul 19 18:24:22 but that s ok Jul 19 18:24:27 I ll learn :p Jul 19 18:24:31 not Jul 19 18:24:40 learn java first Jul 19 18:24:40 mh.. anyone got an idea why chmod is not working on the phone? Jul 19 18:25:26 wingless: is it close to another programing language? Jul 19 18:26:08 hmm.. maybe c++ Jul 19 18:26:20 I know C/C++ and fortran Jul 19 18:26:50 i need to cure my ADD so i can learn that shit Jul 19 18:26:58 i want to learn it so badly Jul 19 18:27:17 Java shouldnt be that hard to learn Jul 19 18:27:24 ok you'll learn java in a few hours if you know oop too Jul 19 18:28:18 zelrikriando: im just really ADD and when it comes to stuff like math or coding, or thus that requires memorizing intricate definitions, and having to remember alias, variables, strings, etc, etc, etc all that coder stuff... my mind doesn't absorb it Jul 19 18:29:02 I have the opposite Jul 19 18:29:07 I am kind of an aspie Jul 19 18:29:11 so I tend to learn fast Jul 19 18:29:15 aspie? Jul 19 18:29:19 aspergers? Jul 19 18:29:21 yeah Jul 19 18:29:41 it's very hard for me to get into something Jul 19 18:29:46 but once I am into it Jul 19 18:29:50 no way to get out Jul 19 18:30:30 oh well i guess that has it's benefits Jul 19 18:30:47 the few things you'll get into throughout your life, you'll virtually master Jul 19 18:30:57 jpa--: start with c Jul 19 18:31:23 wingless: people have told me that before, i just have a hard time finding the resources Jul 19 18:32:35 what resource? start with online tutorials Jul 19 18:32:52 its not nuclear physics Jul 19 18:33:04 * zelrikriando does nuclear physics Jul 19 18:33:05 :D Jul 19 18:33:14 like i said, i think i have ADD cuz when im trying to learn with online tutorials i get bored Jul 19 18:33:22 i need to take a course or something Jul 19 18:33:24 immerse myself Jul 19 18:33:32 maybe im an aspie :P Jul 19 18:33:48 I know somebody who has ADD, she smokes pot Jul 19 18:33:50 you need to aim something Jul 19 18:34:07 I learn best when I have a specific project to work on Jul 19 18:34:09 zelrikriando: go figure.. i smoke pot heh Jul 19 18:34:12 it's hard to learn a programing language just for the heck of it Jul 19 18:34:16 same jf Jul 19 18:34:26 a project is a nice motivation Jul 19 18:35:10 ok, how can i wipe the entire phone, firmware, recovery image, everything ? Jul 19 18:35:25 you dont want to Jul 19 18:35:36 the phones current state is worthless Jul 19 18:36:35 i have -one- command as root. that is all. can't connect usb (no intel machine), can't connect to wireless (radio is farked) and can't get a terminal Jul 19 18:37:10 so, again, how can i install rc29, or whatever that will get me some kind of functionality Jul 19 18:37:36 if you have the internets Jul 19 18:37:49 i call one native function and I want it to set some fields when evoked for the first time, then those variables should be shared between calls. how to do this in jni in C? Jul 19 18:37:50 download rc29 dreaimg.nbh Jul 19 18:37:53 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480 at this point of things, the error is: "Cnt open /cache recovery/command" Jul 19 18:38:11 no, no connectivy other than the microsd card an my powerpc mac Jul 19 18:38:21 that's not an error Jul 19 18:38:26 that's normal Jul 19 18:38:43 is there any way i can stop bluetooth stereo playback from skipping? Jul 19 18:38:47 the phone will not accept any images. none. is that normal ? Jul 19 18:39:18 I highly doubt that. but I don't have the time to spend to help you diagnose it Jul 19 18:39:26 Hi everyone, I have a rooted HTC Magic. Can I load on the build for the Dev phone (Dream) from the Android sources ok? Jul 19 18:39:28 if you want to go back to RC29, flash the nbh Jul 19 18:40:39 * ohgood wonders Jul 19 18:41:00 ok I compiled and ran my first java class Jul 19 18:41:36 it doesnt seem ver hard Jul 19 18:41:41 very* Jul 19 18:41:48 Anyone? Jul 19 18:42:05 JesusFreke, i've been trying all day to flash it Jul 19 18:43:08 ohgood: put .nbh in the root of your sd, and reboot to the bootloader Jul 19 18:44:25 ok, I guess I'll have a go and let you know :) Jul 19 18:44:54 * ohgood kills it again Jul 19 18:45:10 ohgood: any of the "how to root" tutorials should have instructions on how to flash it Jul 19 18:45:53 Graaagh. Jul 19 18:46:03 Now I remember why I wasn't using the ADP version Jul 19 18:46:06 No IM app. Jul 19 18:46:30 yes, i've used the tutorials before, they're nice, but this is an odd issue about not 'taking' the flashes. Jul 19 18:46:59 I have no idea what that means Jul 19 18:47:17 ohgood: is it a stock european phone? Jul 19 18:47:55 s3m, i'm assuming a stock us phone. i've only had it a few hours since last night Jul 19 19:01:10 mh.. have you tried using the goldcard method? Jul 19 19:01:15 maybe that helps Jul 19 19:01:51 goldcard ? :| Jul 19 19:10:37 mh.. you don't know german by any chance?^^ Jul 19 19:13:54 hi Jul 19 19:15:01 o/ tommy Jul 19 19:15:20 sup Jul 19 19:23:17 meh, why won't chmod work?.. Jul 19 19:23:29 uh Jul 19 19:23:41 s3m: try using numbers instead of like +x and stuff Jul 19 19:23:44 AakashPatel: sup dawg Jul 19 19:23:52 just woke up Jul 19 19:23:54 you? Jul 19 19:24:00 doesn't work either aakash Jul 19 19:24:05 ??? Jul 19 19:24:07 wrong! Jul 19 19:24:10 it worked for me lol Jul 19 19:24:14 not for me Jul 19 19:24:15 s3m: what are you trying to do? Jul 19 19:24:23 giving +x to bash Jul 19 19:24:33 or another .sh for that matter Jul 19 19:24:39 chmod 775 filename Jul 19 19:24:43 ya. Jul 19 19:24:48 no change in modes Jul 19 19:24:49 do su Jul 19 19:24:53 before Jul 19 19:25:09 did so.. Jul 19 19:25:23 wtf Jul 19 19:25:26 it worked Oo Jul 19 19:25:32 i had to su twice Jul 19 19:25:34 wth.. Jul 19 19:25:36 lol Jul 19 19:26:11 well, thanks.. Jul 19 19:26:15 lol np Jul 19 19:27:09 why did i have to su twice? Jul 19 19:27:59 cuz you did it wrong the first time apparently Jul 19 19:28:31 dumb question, but sudo apt-get install anything-at-all won't work without an internet connection, right? Jul 19 19:28:56 uh Jul 19 19:28:59 jpa--, it'll work if you have a local cache Jul 19 19:29:01 it would give you an error Jul 19 19:29:04 wutttt Jul 19 19:29:13 (like a DVD of the packages or something) Jul 19 19:29:18 ohhh Jul 19 19:29:50 KNY: I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 8.04 on my other partition.. i'm have the ANdroid SDK and ADT plugins and eclipse all ready to be installed, but certain java libs are missing and it says i need to sudo apt-get install them Jul 19 19:29:56 but without an internet connection, i cannot do so Jul 19 19:30:04 the whole thing im still trying to do , is tether Jul 19 19:30:42 lulz Jul 19 19:30:54 download the packages you need via your phone Jul 19 19:31:03 then install them on your comp Jul 19 19:31:37 jpa--: dude, is that a laptop that you have? Jul 19 19:31:48 You can use some public wifi Jul 19 19:32:25 zelrikriando: yeah a toshiba satellite laptop Jul 19 19:32:41 yeah, why not public wifi :P Jul 19 19:32:50 jpa--: try to find a public wifi connection Jul 19 19:32:54 pubic wifi? gross Jul 19 19:33:03 TommyBres: he has no other choice lol Jul 19 19:33:09 jpa--: mcdonalds! Jul 19 19:33:11 lol Jul 19 19:33:11 my enter key failed on my old laptop Jul 19 19:33:12 starbucks! Jul 19 19:33:18 so i have a usb keyboard sittong on my laptop Jul 19 19:33:21 i just got my eee back up Jul 19 19:33:21 it's nice Jul 19 19:33:23 heh Jul 19 19:33:23 haha Jul 19 19:33:25 haha yeah true Jul 19 19:33:28 i do live in montreal Jul 19 19:33:31 tons of wifi spots here Jul 19 19:33:33 i just wish it had a sim card port Jul 19 19:33:35 i work right above one actually Jul 19 19:33:56 an old neighbour had an open wifi network for al ong time, but moved last month Jul 19 19:34:59 wep is easy to break if one of those is near Jul 19 19:35:23 lol Jul 19 19:35:24 yes but wouldn't i need to download the tools first? Jul 19 19:35:29 haha Jul 19 19:36:03 also... wep is easy to break for smart kids Jul 19 19:36:11 nah Jul 19 19:36:16 use backtrak linux from a livecd Jul 19 19:36:22 i cracked one network when i was like 12 Jul 19 19:36:24 psshh Jul 19 19:36:26 you need a compatable wifi hardware too though Jul 19 19:36:31 i have ubuntu 8.04 installed on my other partition Jul 19 19:36:32 dual-boot Jul 19 19:36:50 oh it can't just be done with the internal wifi card? Jul 19 19:36:52 on my laptop Jul 19 19:36:53 jpa--: that version is old that might be why youre getting java errors Jul 19 19:36:55 maybe Jul 19 19:36:56 ooo Jul 19 19:36:57 who knows Jul 19 19:37:02 aircrack for osx :D Jul 19 19:37:15 jpa--, yeah you can but will likely need patching driver for monitor mode Jul 19 19:37:17 8.04 is stable though Jul 19 19:37:19 yeah i need to update to 9.04 Jul 19 19:37:32 jpa--: what graphic card do you have Jul 19 19:37:33 lastest aircrack should have a sh script to do that for you Jul 19 19:37:38 i liked 8.04.. plus my laptop is really old so i didnt wanna take the step to 9.04 Jul 19 19:37:48 i know from previous experience that 8.04 works like a charm on this POS laptop Jul 19 19:37:58 zelrikriando: i dunno... onboard ATI Radeon or something Jul 19 19:38:05 8.10 and 9.04 have regressions for intel video cards Jul 19 19:38:07 oh Jul 19 19:38:10 you re fine then Jul 19 19:38:12 Hey, anyone got an opinion on the supposed HTC Lancaster? My store's prob'ly gonna be carrying it soonish but I want see what y'all think of it first. Jul 19 19:38:20 awful Jul 19 19:38:32 QVGA resolution, 1/2 the pixels of the dream, smaller screen by .4" Jul 19 19:38:37 grosss Jul 19 19:38:39 go get a pre Jul 19 19:38:42 it will be a total waste Jul 19 19:38:43 haha Jul 19 19:39:23 * AakashPatel plays with the pre emu some more Jul 19 19:39:51 lol Jul 19 19:39:55 the webOS emu*** Jul 19 19:39:59 nothing about it says "pre" Jul 19 19:40:01 we qvga = what? Jul 19 19:40:01 pshh Jul 19 19:40:06 i dont give a crap Jul 19 19:40:10 er Jul 19 19:40:13 qvga = quarter of vga resolution Jul 19 19:40:21 chmod is not working again.. what the hell am i doing wrong? Jul 19 19:40:21 ah Jul 19 19:40:22 the dream has HVGA, half of VGA Jul 19 19:40:41 and something like the touch pro has VGA, which is 640x480 pixels... HVGA 480x320, QVGA 320x240 Jul 19 19:40:55 n770/n800 have dvga (double vga ;-) Jul 19 19:41:13 haha Jul 19 19:41:18 gahh Jul 19 19:41:21 i want a hero Jul 19 19:41:35 get it Jul 19 19:41:38 tbh i dont know if i like the physical design of the hero Jul 19 19:41:52 probably different to hold it than to see it though Jul 19 19:41:59 TommyBres: the white ones are teflon XD Jul 19 19:42:18 :D Jul 19 19:42:22 The Hero feels very good in the hand as I was told Jul 19 19:42:30 hrmm Jul 19 19:42:36 is it the same material as the magic? Jul 19 19:42:38 htc magic feels like cheap plastic Jul 19 19:42:47 those racist bastards Jul 19 19:42:54 only the white ones are teflon Jul 19 19:42:58 if you drop it from like a foot up, the back pops off and battery goes flying out Jul 19 19:43:00 jpa--: no, it's really different Jul 19 19:43:01 WHY WHITE??? Jul 19 19:43:05 lol Jul 19 19:43:10 because why is super sleak Jul 19 19:43:37 AakashPatel: because white gets Yellow with time Jul 19 19:43:40 :D Jul 19 19:43:46 haha Jul 19 19:45:34 is it possible to use google sync with an android Jul 19 19:45:50 my laptop used to be white Jul 19 19:46:19 it doesnt look as white anymore Jul 19 19:46:41 devslash: google sync? Jul 19 19:46:46 yes Jul 19 19:46:52 it already syncs everything to google Jul 19 19:47:10 so calendar events are auto synced Jul 19 19:47:13 and contacts Jul 19 19:47:16 yep Jul 19 19:47:27 yessuh Jul 19 19:48:14 well its not working Jul 19 19:48:18 my contacts arent syncing Jul 19 19:48:23 hmmm Jul 19 19:48:35 can i use a google apps account with my phone? Jul 19 19:48:44 instead of a @gmail.com one? Jul 19 19:49:06 devslash: go to settings > data sync > click menu Jul 19 19:49:09 then sync Jul 19 19:49:13 see what happens Jul 19 19:49:35 anyone heard of an issue where when connecting an a2dp stereo bluetooth device to the G1 it connects to both phone and media audio at first, then disconnects media audio - if i just go and disable media audio for it then reenable it it's fine until the next time i turn off the headset and turn it back on Jul 19 19:53:31 Anyone hear anything about the proposed UI for the Lancaster? Jul 19 19:54:07 heh Jul 19 19:54:11 did he leave? Jul 19 19:55:04 zelrikriando: you still on hero? Jul 19 19:55:24 the hero unlocked is a complete rip off Jul 19 19:55:36 700 uSD Jul 19 19:55:38 USD* Jul 19 19:55:53 AakashPatel: welcome to the world of smartphones Jul 19 19:56:01 touch HD, $900 unlocked when it came out Jul 19 19:56:05 WTF Jul 19 19:56:09 touch pro, $900 unlocked when it came out Jul 19 19:56:11 omfg Jul 19 19:56:15 thats f'ing crazy Jul 19 19:56:24 NO phone is worth that much Jul 19 19:56:27 lol Jul 19 19:56:45 the very early adopters of the raphael on xda-devs all either got it with contract in europe or got it in the US for like $900 Jul 19 19:57:07 hi, anybody wants to review my new input method "keyboard" idea? do you know if there exists something similar already? http://www.latinsud.com/pub/slideType/ (probably only works on firefox) Jul 19 19:57:09 heh Jul 19 19:57:25 i know a guy that paid over a grand for the E90 Jul 19 19:57:42 whats so special about it SuD Jul 19 19:58:03 it requires NO precission AND NO dictionary Jul 19 19:58:03 SuD: i think it's very clever Jul 19 19:58:07 AakashPatel: look at it Jul 19 19:58:15 SuD: take a look at the HTC IME Jul 19 19:58:17 you drag up/left/right to tell what letter Jul 19 19:58:20 i did Jul 19 19:58:20 no multiple touches Jul 19 19:58:20 and is relatively fast Jul 19 19:58:22 oh wut Jul 19 19:58:24 SuD: I like it Jul 19 19:58:28 me too Jul 19 19:58:35 1 touch/swipe per key per letter, aakashpatel Jul 19 19:58:41 me too Jul 19 19:58:42 yet it's in a regular phone key format Jul 19 19:58:52 good idea, guy Jul 19 19:59:05 SuD: should we expect it on android market soon? :) Jul 19 19:59:10 TommyBres: lol i f'ed it up Jul 19 19:59:17 how do i type letters? Jul 19 19:59:22 i made it type numbers now Jul 19 19:59:25 hahah Jul 19 19:59:27 slide Jul 19 19:59:31 hopefully not patented yet :) i have not an android phone yet. :( Jul 19 19:59:41 aww Jul 19 19:59:46 lol Jul 19 19:59:48 AakashPatel: click on 2, then drag left Jul 19 19:59:49 i still dont get it Jul 19 19:59:52 okay Jul 19 19:59:53 then click 2 and drag right Jul 19 19:59:54 SuD: that's ok, there's emus Jul 19 20:00:11 SuD: and plenty of people to beta. Jul 19 20:00:31 * TommyBres will test it for you :) Jul 19 20:00:36 ohhhh Jul 19 20:00:38 i see Jul 19 20:00:42 noob Jul 19 20:00:46 thats pretty cool actaully Jul 19 20:00:50 SuD: i just applied for your patent Jul 19 20:00:51 lol Jul 19 20:00:56 hahaha Jul 19 20:00:58 HAHA wingless Jul 19 20:01:10 guh. fuq patents. Jul 19 20:01:40 perpetuating the system :/ Jul 19 20:01:48 anyway Jul 19 20:01:54 i dont like compact keyboards :) Jul 19 20:02:15 it makes me feel...small lol Jul 19 20:02:23 oh wai Jul 19 20:02:24 t Jul 19 20:02:26 nm Jul 19 20:02:30 that was on those ones with predictoin Jul 19 20:02:45 never actually seen one like this Jul 19 20:04:01 i only tested an android live-cd, but i think i cannot use it to develop Jul 19 20:05:11 no, you cant Jul 19 20:05:15 get the SDK and use the emulator Jul 19 20:05:27 SuD: yeah Jul 19 20:05:29 get the sdk Jul 19 20:05:41 thank you Jul 19 20:05:50 :) Jul 19 20:08:07 SuD: check out this text input method Jul 19 20:08:09 http://www.iliumsoft.com/site/fp/inscribe.php Jul 19 20:08:34 you just swipe to "connect the dots", so to say, with letters on the keyboard Jul 19 20:09:09 i had already seen it. It is fast and also saves you time as you don't have to use space, but still requires more precision Jul 19 20:11:34 JesusFreke, you around? Jul 19 20:14:34 SuD: so are did you make it for some sw company or what? Jul 19 20:14:37 err -are Jul 19 20:14:49 anyone got me a sip server for sipdroid? Jul 19 20:15:07 that other one is good for umpc, not for phones tho Jul 19 20:15:28 no, i've been thinking on input problem for a long time Jul 19 20:15:31 FreakGuard: I just got a script in Asterisk working so I can make and receive calls just by dialing with Google Voice :D Jul 19 20:15:54 FreakGuard: https://www1.pbxes.com/index_e.php Jul 19 20:16:07 SuD: And you're going to sell it to OS manufacturers (for lack of better term) Jul 19 20:16:09 ? Jul 19 20:16:23 Yeah, pbxes is cool. Jul 19 20:16:33 They always delete my account for some reason Jul 19 20:16:41 but whatever, i run *. jej. Jul 19 20:16:50 i like free/open software, but i am concerned that a good idea can give you money, so i don't know what to do Jul 19 20:17:34 if i could license it so open source systems can use it for free, while closed systems have to pay me :) Jul 19 20:17:43 SuD: Yeah I think you have something here, and I think if you play it right it could benefit you, the OS companies, and the community as a whole. Jul 19 20:17:54 I think there's a license for that. Jul 19 20:18:37 Just gotta check which one. Jul 19 20:18:47 i don't know if creative-commons can be applied to software Jul 19 20:18:49 hallo, i need help with superhero rom on g1 Jul 19 20:19:20 what's the difference between SuperHero, Fatal1tys Hero, and Jachero roms ? Jul 19 20:20:12 SuD: there's definitely some kind of established license that requires payment/extra licensing for commercial use Jul 19 20:20:25 s3m: hm... registration failed (404) Jul 19 20:20:29 you know it? Jul 19 20:20:30 and free licensing as long as it's free/opensource and you get credited Jul 19 20:20:42 I don't know the name off hand, but I'm sure I've seen it before Jul 19 20:20:52 i have my account at sipgate.de, pbxes is just what the sipdroid guys recommend Jul 19 20:20:56 trolltech ? Jul 19 20:21:04 It's never concerned me much so that kinda stuff is just in one ear and out the other, you know? :/ Jul 19 20:21:06 i flash the superhero beta v2 full but the space is to small for start the g1 Jul 19 20:21:10 but I know I've seen it Jul 19 20:21:17 sorry, my english is bad Jul 19 20:21:52 hmm i have an input idea too Jul 19 20:22:33 s3m: how to get a hand on them? Jul 19 20:22:44 SuD: I'm asking some devs I know Jul 19 20:22:45 on pbxes? no idea Jul 19 20:23:35 what's the difference between SuperHero, Fatal1tys Hero, and Jachero roms ? Jul 19 20:23:58 jpa--: google Jul 19 20:24:12 maybe a license like mysql Jul 19 20:24:25 What license is it on? Jul 19 20:25:07 you can use mysql with gpl applications for free, buy you must buy a copy of mysql if you are selling propietary apps Jul 19 20:25:47 that's not gpl tho, right Jul 19 20:26:05 cause i think gpl requires that everything's free no matter what? Jul 19 20:27:22 dual licenses can allow for that Jul 19 20:27:31 just say that license x applies when... Jul 19 20:28:31 can someone send me an invitation to demonoid Jul 19 20:28:51 no one can help me Jul 19 20:30:07 why so emo Jul 19 20:30:42 anyone got any clue why chmod on my g1 isn't working? Jul 19 20:30:43 rTk_cool: sup Jul 19 20:30:47 why should i ;) Jul 19 20:32:38 where has this world gone? animated girls kissing in ads Jul 19 20:35:52 hi all Jul 19 20:36:23 sup Jul 19 20:36:23 i already got it Jul 19 20:36:24 thx Jul 19 20:36:27 :P Jul 19 20:36:49 lol Jul 19 20:36:51 ANDROID LIVE Jul 19 20:36:54 run android on ur computer Jul 19 20:36:56 i think not Jul 19 20:37:05 lol Jul 19 20:37:15 whats the point without the market Jul 19 20:37:24 haha Jul 19 20:37:26 whats the point. Jul 19 20:37:35 yeah that sucks Jul 19 20:37:48 anyone know any really good games to get for andriod Jul 19 20:37:59 archipelago Jul 19 20:38:00 im bord with solitare and tetris Jul 19 20:38:06 labyrinth Jul 19 20:38:11 hands off backgammon Jul 19 20:38:11 * SuD going out for dinner Jul 19 20:38:12 robo defense XD Jul 19 20:38:12 gameboid Jul 19 20:38:14 lol! Jul 19 20:38:16 the papi games can be fun Jul 19 20:38:24 i have a baseball game thats fun Jul 19 20:38:29 and ping pong Jul 19 20:38:34 MoonUnit: abduction > papi jump ;) Jul 19 20:38:37 i don't have the full airhockey game Jul 19 20:38:46 how does that work? Jul 19 20:38:47 anyone tried that battleship game over sms? Jul 19 20:38:53 its not multitouch : Jul 19 20:39:06 thanks guys Jul 19 20:39:13 it's 1p Jul 19 20:40:11 oh Jul 19 20:40:13 gross Jul 19 20:40:24 i dont wanna play with myself Jul 19 20:40:27 haha Jul 19 20:40:29 hahahah Jul 19 20:40:30 ha Jul 19 20:41:31 facelessloser: Hold'Em poker lite Jul 19 20:41:46 cool not really that in the poker but i might give it a go Jul 19 20:41:52 OREGON TRAIL! Jul 19 20:41:57 ive been looking in the market but theres soo much Jul 19 20:41:59 i have the real texas hold em too Jul 19 20:42:15 is there gcc for arm? Jul 19 20:42:24 i wanna compile some shiz on my phone haah Jul 19 20:42:29 ask my questions Jul 19 20:42:52 ? Jul 19 20:42:59 is that a game? lol] Jul 19 20:43:07 yes there is gcc for arm Jul 19 20:43:12 i asked you the same thing a few days ago Jul 19 20:43:18 oh Jul 19 20:43:18 you can cross compile Jul 19 20:43:29 wingless: i forgot XD Jul 19 20:43:36 lol Jul 19 20:43:45 just set up a cross compiling environment for arm Jul 19 20:43:46 aurman: i dont wanna cross compile this time Jul 19 20:43:49 no Jul 19 20:43:52 i already have one Jul 19 20:43:54 1 Jul 19 20:44:05 it'll be faster than compiling on the arm itself, i think Jul 19 20:44:13 dur Jul 19 20:44:15 lol Jul 19 20:44:21 but the cool factor Jul 19 20:44:22 lol Jul 19 20:44:26 aurman: are you sure that it'll work without any issues? Jul 19 20:44:32 yeah Jul 19 20:44:35 i do it sometimes Jul 19 20:44:45 what about libs etc Jul 19 20:44:56 oh Jul 19 20:44:59 you can staticly link Jul 19 20:45:04 or you can link against bionic Jul 19 20:45:15 (first is easiest) Jul 19 20:45:18 static link.. Jul 19 20:45:50 wingless: what OS? Jul 19 20:46:09 android Jul 19 20:46:11 err Jul 19 20:46:13 i mean Jul 19 20:46:23 what os you compiling on Jul 19 20:46:41 linux or windows, i have both Jul 19 20:46:48 fedora is easiest Jul 19 20:47:00 why Jul 19 20:47:07 on debian Jul 19 20:47:14 some of the packages you need are broken Jul 19 20:48:16 someone figure out how to run ubuntu mid on this thing Jul 19 20:50:24 man cnet's bandwidth test blows hard Jul 19 20:50:41 2002.9 Kbps - You 2002.9 kbps Jul 19 20:50:47 ..i have 10mbit Jul 19 20:55:43 hrmm Jul 19 20:55:53 some roms say "upgrade to latest radio before SPL" Jul 19 20:56:12 if ive only rooted, updated SPL 1.33.2005, and begun flashing roms... sounds like i haven't touched the radio Jul 19 20:56:12 correct Jul 19 20:56:13 ? Jul 19 20:56:25 uhh Jul 19 20:56:32 whats your baseband version Jul 19 20:57:23 62.525.20.18H_3.22.20.17 Jul 19 20:57:34 hm Jul 19 20:57:47 oh Jul 19 20:57:49 magic? Jul 19 20:57:58 ya Jul 19 20:57:58 idk what the latest for those are Jul 19 20:58:05 jpa--: heh Jul 19 20:58:14 i was looking at the wireless tether for root users app Jul 19 20:58:29 * wickednix|chilli peeks in Jul 19 20:58:29 did you read its actual description on the market or just try to install it? Jul 19 20:58:43 Macer: i've tried it multiple times... that's how i know it doesn't work Jul 19 20:58:46 tried it on 4 different roms Jul 19 20:59:04 did any of the roms have su installed? :) Jul 19 20:59:11 and in the path? Jul 19 20:59:20 no idea Jul 19 20:59:25 heh Jul 19 20:59:32 i know that a couple roms have some app called like "Superuser Permissions" or something Jul 19 20:59:33 blahhhh Jul 19 20:59:35 so bored Jul 19 20:59:40 alrighty then.. doesn't matter. you said you got it going with a usb cable Jul 19 20:59:50 same here aPatel Jul 19 20:59:56 me too Jul 19 20:59:59 Macer: for the moment yes, in winxp.. my next step is to try tethering in ubuntu 8.04 Jul 19 21:00:11 Macer: the hero rom im on right now has a SuperUser Permission app thing Jul 19 21:00:13 Its 300 degrees outside Jul 19 21:00:29 84 here Jul 19 21:00:33 38 c Jul 19 21:01:01 tethering in linux is easy Jul 19 21:01:06 you just need acm installed in teh kernel Jul 19 21:01:10 and treat it like a pppd connection Jul 19 21:01:15 at least that's how it used to work Jul 19 21:01:25 wingless: hawt Jul 19 21:01:28 it has been a long time since i've used usb to tether Jul 19 21:01:31 it's 108f here Jul 19 21:01:36 hawter Jul 19 21:01:40 yea Jul 19 21:01:40 its nice here :) Jul 19 21:01:42 lol Jul 19 21:01:42 if i can get wifi tether to work, ill use that Jul 19 21:01:50 but like i said.. no dice Jul 19 21:01:50 hmm Jul 19 21:01:53 in the repo Jul 19 21:01:53 it's like 65 in chicago :) Jul 19 21:01:57 or at least it feels like it Jul 19 21:01:58 can we build for magic? Jul 19 21:02:00 like we can for dream? Jul 19 21:02:11 Hates you all Jul 19 21:02:22 I want cool weather again Jul 19 21:02:31 its chilly in the mornings here Jul 19 21:02:34 around 7 Jul 19 21:02:46 jpa, i never had any luck getting tethering to work in 8.04, but in 9.04 it works perfect Jul 19 21:02:47 lol last week it was like 90 in the mornings Jul 19 21:03:05 hrmm Jul 19 21:03:46 jpa--, i dont really know what the deal was, but everything i tried didnt work, and since cupcake a couple things dont work anymore Jul 19 21:03:57 running 8 miles in 90 degree weather Jul 19 21:03:59 ...omfg Jul 19 21:04:13 *things = tutorials Jul 19 21:04:30 mattgyver: yeah i dunno.. its frustrated me into submission.. ill still with azilink usb tethering for now... just means i cant use ubuntu Jul 19 21:04:55 jpa--: rebuild the kernel with whatever you need enabled :X Jul 19 21:05:21 jpa--, yeah, its a pain in the butt. i was shocked when i installed 9.04 and ran the tethering app by accident and network manager found it ':| Jul 19 21:05:40 AakashPatel: i have no idea what that means or how to do that. im not even going to pretend to be even a beginner coder Jul 19 21:05:43 ive never done anything like that in my life Jul 19 21:06:01 hahaah Jul 19 21:06:11 ... if i already have ubuntu 8.04 installed... if i just boot into that, and then pop in a 9.04 cd.. can i just update from that? Jul 19 21:06:17 or will i NEED an internet connection to update? Jul 19 21:06:20 using bash commands aint coding Jul 19 21:06:27 jpa, yes Jul 19 21:06:27 lol Jul 19 21:06:31 wingless: to me it is Jul 19 21:06:33 wingless: ill bash your ass Jul 19 21:06:34 how about a bash script? Jul 19 21:06:43 ehh Jul 19 21:06:45 possibly Jul 19 21:06:51 jpa--, however if your gonna go 9.04 my suggestion is a full update on an ext4 filesystem, much faster Jul 19 21:06:52 if i feel like the script is advanced enought lol Jul 19 21:06:53 maybe Jul 19 21:07:18 you'll never feel that after reading knuth Jul 19 21:07:20 mattgyver: no internet connection when im in ubuntu :(.. the only connection i have is when i tether Jul 19 21:07:59 knuth? Jul 19 21:08:16 god of cs Jul 19 21:08:17 imeem doesn't work well on gprs does it Jul 19 21:08:38 it can't get data fast enough Jul 19 21:08:44 used it on edge just fine :) Jul 19 21:08:52 ive noticed Jul 19 21:09:02 there are NO apps that let you just pick your song and listen to it Jul 19 21:09:07 like the imeem website does Jul 19 21:11:16 now i have lots of apps, i'll have to pick the ones i will use at some point Jul 19 21:13:48 it looks like i have 3 simultaneous downloads going on, pretty big ones for mobile standards Jul 19 21:14:24 The “clunky” and “not very sexy” T-Mobile G1 has won “Highly Commended“ in the GSMA’s Global Mobile Awards. Jul 19 21:14:41 lol Jul 19 21:15:43 who cares what it looks like, its all about how it is to use Jul 19 21:15:49 uhh Jul 19 21:15:49 i care lol Jul 19 21:16:03 why? Jul 19 21:16:09 to me its very functional and i love it Jul 19 21:16:12 just size the size? Jul 19 21:16:13 pshh Jul 19 21:16:19 NexVision: exactly Jul 19 21:16:37 size dont bother me wither Jul 19 21:16:40 either* Jul 19 21:16:48 my big thing is keyboard Jul 19 21:16:59 i could do without the keyboard :) Jul 19 21:17:05 not me Jul 19 21:17:06 i barely use it now anyways lol Jul 19 21:17:10 i use the HTC IME Jul 19 21:17:11 my chick is a textaholic Jul 19 21:17:24 so is i Jul 19 21:17:25 and if i dont respond man oh man do i get it Jul 19 21:17:30 ha Jul 19 21:17:33 im a pretty big txtaholic and i love HTC IME on the htc magic Jul 19 21:17:36 such a great virtual keyboard Jul 19 21:17:43 yeah its a good one Jul 19 21:17:50 but the hard keyboard i am so much faster with Jul 19 21:18:48 oh can someone give me a link on howto connect my android to linux? Jul 19 21:19:08 i want to be able to run commands on the android from my PC, typing commands is annoying and time consuming on it Jul 19 21:19:13 ha..i have yet to install the sdk on ubuntu Jul 19 21:19:15 download the SDK Jul 19 21:19:16 suucchh a noob Jul 19 21:19:18 http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/device.html#setting-up Jul 19 21:19:20 oh the sdk Jul 19 21:19:51 ive got it running Jul 19 21:19:54 no probs Jul 19 21:19:57 using jaunty Jul 19 21:20:32 Ace2017_-: once you have debugging setup, you're probably looking for adb shell Jul 19 21:20:42 yupp Jul 19 21:21:08 can't i use bash? Jul 19 21:21:29 never tried Jul 19 21:21:34 adb shell works great Jul 19 21:21:43 Ace2017_-: i suppose if you cross compile and install it Jul 19 21:21:44 its done in terminal Jul 19 21:22:17 what does android use now? Jul 19 21:24:14 anyone come across any like "installing android SDK in Ubuntu for idiots" guide? Jul 19 21:24:21 i definitely need a very simplified one Jul 19 21:24:29 like "type this into terminal.... now type this... do this.. and type this" Jul 19 21:24:50 thats site Jul 19 21:24:59 that one that jsharkey just pasted Jul 19 21:27:41 is there any way to increase the size of /system? :/ Jul 19 21:29:03 AakashPatel: right, i tried following that, but i dont even know the command to type in terminal to install something Jul 19 21:29:54 jpa what u mean Jul 19 21:29:59 download the sdk Jul 19 21:30:05 and create a ruels Jul 19 21:30:08 rules* Jul 19 21:30:26 then all u do is open terminal and type abd xxxx xxxxxxxx Jul 19 21:30:29 adb Jul 19 21:30:45 create a rules? Jul 19 21:30:49 u use adb push adb install adb shell Jul 19 21:30:57 did you even read the link? Jul 19 21:30:59 is that when you edit the ~/.bashrc ? Jul 19 21:31:12 Ace2017_-: yes but it doesn't make sense to me.. im new to all this Jul 19 21:31:24 of ffs its a 32bit thing isn't it Jul 19 21:31:32 i hate having ia32 libs Jul 19 21:33:22 Hi Jul 19 21:33:37 Hi, is it possible to get root on a samsung galaxy Jul 19 21:34:39 Found something odd in android's voice-dial function. I used it to open an app (which is cool), but when I exit out of the app and hold down the call button to bring up the voice-search, it just brings up the app I used to open it. Why is that? Jul 19 21:35:27 anyone here use itunes to manage syncing the G1? Jul 19 21:35:36 ew Jul 19 21:37:03 Hi Jul 19 21:37:28 does anyone know how I can find where the resource files in the apk are located in the emulator ? Jul 19 21:37:31 yeooo Jul 19 21:37:41 Hachaso uh wut lol Jul 19 21:37:42 what apk Jul 19 21:39:23 I mean.. I created an Android project.. in the "res" folder I have some resource files, like images etc Jul 19 21:39:41 I would like to know if it is possible to find those files in the emulator somehow? Jul 19 21:41:58 when I run from Eclipse, the apk file is installed on the emulator.. Jul 19 21:42:17 how can I find the files, where do they get installed ? Jul 19 21:46:07 oh Jul 19 21:46:28 oh! Jul 19 21:46:49 Palm WebOS Mojo SDK Sadly Impotent: Badass Games Are Impossible Jul 19 21:46:51 pwned Jul 19 21:47:02 why Jul 19 21:47:40 http://gizmodo.com/5317216/palm-webos-mojo-sdk-sadly-impotent-badass-games-are-impossible Jul 19 21:47:52 "there's no OpenGL" Jul 19 21:47:53 blahaha Jul 19 21:48:02 opengl is overrated Jul 19 21:48:08 ... Jul 19 21:48:11 o.o Jul 19 21:50:12 AakashPatel: you'll be happy when Android gets OpenGL ES 2.0 :) Jul 19 21:50:39 :D Jul 19 21:52:04 wtf only 4Hz sample rate from accelerometer Jul 19 21:52:16 harrrr Jul 19 21:52:34 oh and aakashpatel i was joking about overrated Jul 19 21:52:38 does rc29 use att sims by default ? (assuming the phone is unlocked) Jul 19 21:52:46 yeah? Jul 19 21:52:47 s/does/can Jul 19 21:52:59 if the phone is unlocked, why couldnt it? Jul 19 21:53:11 TommyBres, that's what i'd like to know. :) Jul 19 21:53:23 lol Jul 19 21:53:23 o.O does it not? Jul 19 21:53:26 it can Jul 19 21:53:33 any one can Jul 19 21:53:35 :P Jul 19 21:53:36 yeah Jul 19 21:53:38 one/version Jul 19 21:53:43 i'm thinking the sim slot is crap Jul 19 21:53:46 it depeends if the radio is locked Jul 19 21:53:51 er sim Jul 19 21:53:51 oh ho ? Jul 19 21:54:02 idk waht its called exactly Jul 19 21:54:08 ohgood: uhh Jul 19 21:54:18 if you just get a g1 and flash rc29 its still locked Jul 19 21:54:25 you have to get an unlock code Jul 19 21:54:27 ok, well, the sim works on -another- g1 just fine Jul 19 21:54:40 ohgood id guess its a bad unlock code Jul 19 21:54:57 not the sim slot or the firmware Jul 19 21:55:00 is it possible to get root on the sasmung galaxy Jul 19 21:55:18 i dont think anyone has done it yet, kr1s Jul 19 21:55:38 TommyBres, the sims work in another g1, this g1 seems to a) be borked b) not accept any sims although it was unlocked. Jul 19 21:55:43 though i really hope it comes soon Jul 19 21:55:58 ok, i've wasted a day trying to get this thing working- why stop now :D Jul 19 21:56:07 ohgood if the unlock code was bad it wouldnt unlock, and wouldnt register to att's network Jul 19 21:56:25 whered you get the unlock code? Jul 19 21:56:41 TommyBres, one of those online thingers. it's worked fine 3-4 other times Jul 19 21:56:49 hm okay, and tethering don't work without getting root Jul 19 21:57:24 theaterring Jul 19 21:57:28 TommyBres, so i need to call t-mobile or ? Jul 19 21:57:58 ohgood its possible their code is just wrong, let them know it didnt work Jul 19 21:58:15 happens often, most places will refund Jul 19 21:59:31 if you can get a code from t-mo thats your best bet Jul 19 22:00:09 but, there it isn't prompting for an unlock code, so how would i get that dialogue again ? Jul 19 22:01:18 i mean, it -did- unlock according to the phone, but i'm not getting any signal with any sims i put in Jul 19 22:05:01 sorry back Jul 19 22:05:06 ohgood: uhhh Jul 19 22:05:10 ohgood the phone said it worked? hm Jul 19 22:05:14 so you get no signal..but its unlocked Jul 19 22:05:16 wtf Jul 19 22:05:25 ya, exactly Jul 19 22:05:35 it has the little x next to the signal indicators Jul 19 22:05:54 also, it doesn't say "no sim" or anything like that Jul 19 22:06:32 so i'm thinking it's a software problem. i believe it has rc29 on it, but since i have a powerpc (ugh) and no connectivity from the phone, i can't change the software Jul 19 22:13:25 sure you can Jul 19 22:13:31 err Jul 19 22:13:35 you can update at least ;) Jul 19 22:13:53 if you have wifi Jul 19 22:14:05 AakashPatel, i have wifi Jul 19 22:14:15 AakashPatel, i don't have a intel mac though Jul 19 22:14:34 ohgood: then the tmo 1.5 update Jul 19 22:14:36 download it Jul 19 22:14:41 then upgrade XD Jul 19 22:14:49 get a term emu also Jul 19 22:15:28 AakashPatel, and a link to the tmo update... ? Jul 19 22:15:35 hm Jul 19 22:15:37 hold on Jul 19 22:16:01 this is a g1 right? Jul 19 22:16:13 ya Jul 19 22:16:19 www.tmoupdateforg1.com Jul 19 22:16:23 https://android.clients.google.com/updates/partner/signed-kila-ota-148830.de6a94ca.zip Jul 19 22:16:55 my link is better Jul 19 22:17:02 lol Jul 19 22:17:05 and.... i'm not going to get those wonderful "not signed blah" ? Jul 19 22:17:09 no Jul 19 22:17:14 thats an offical update Jul 19 22:17:21 you just have to rename it and shiz Jul 19 22:17:24 lol! Jul 19 22:17:26 to update.zip Jul 19 22:17:27 file name Jul 19 22:17:35 ya Jul 19 22:17:36 SIGNED-kila-ota-... Jul 19 22:17:38 and he says Jul 19 22:17:40 hahahahha Jul 19 22:17:47 AM I GOING TO GET NOT SIGNED ERRORS Jul 19 22:17:48 rofl Jul 19 22:17:56 oh, ok, now i see yer joshin :( Jul 19 22:17:59 ohgood: then go in to recovery mode and update Jul 19 22:17:59 :) Jul 19 22:18:42 lol Jul 19 22:19:21 so, there is no manual update then ? Jul 19 22:19:42 youre doing a manual update Jul 19 22:19:58 ... Jul 19 22:20:04 what tommy said Jul 19 22:20:12 well, the links, i mean, come on, i get redirects to china Jul 19 22:20:42 ? Jul 19 22:20:47 ¿ Jul 19 22:21:04 LOL HE CLICKED MY LINK? Jul 19 22:21:09 hahahahaha Jul 19 22:21:11 click aakashpatels link Jul 19 22:21:14 not mine Jul 19 22:21:20 ya, it's dead Jul 19 22:21:23 oh Jul 19 22:21:38 hold on Jul 19 22:21:42 so, after two of them, i assumed i got to be the whipping boy tonight :) Jul 19 22:21:58 lol Jul 19 22:22:21 lol Jul 19 22:22:28 they released a new update yesterday Jul 19 22:22:33 but i lost the link Jul 19 22:22:43 lemme look for a mirror Jul 19 22:23:48 * TommyBres hands aakashpatel a pocket mirror Jul 19 22:25:12 gahh Jul 19 22:25:16 gewgle it yourself lol Jul 19 22:25:31 * AakashPatel sees nothin in the pocket mirror Jul 19 22:25:41 ya, all the links are to the google sources... and it 's gone Jul 19 22:26:06 lol you a vampire? Jul 19 22:26:16 there *has* to be a link to a mirror somewhere Jul 19 22:26:21 TommyBres: shhh Jul 19 22:26:36 only my mommy knows that! Jul 19 22:26:44 lol Jul 19 22:26:47 i've hit 5-10 now, all redirects to google-blah-land-of-the-dead-links Jul 19 22:26:53 har Jul 19 22:26:59 no, really Jul 19 22:27:17 sherpa Jul 19 22:27:23 can i get that on a g1? Jul 19 22:27:24 derka derka Jul 19 22:27:31 haha Jul 19 22:27:52 mohammad jihad Jul 19 22:28:01 wtf Jul 19 22:28:03 america, fuck yeah Jul 19 22:28:08 lol Jul 19 22:28:22 youve never seen that movie? Jul 19 22:28:31 nope Jul 19 22:28:34 wow Jul 19 22:28:55 yep Jul 19 22:29:24 so, there really isn't a manual download. right ? Jul 19 22:29:29 is ATT getting the Hero? Jul 19 22:29:34 ohgood: im sure there is Jul 19 22:29:37 look HARDER Jul 19 22:29:38 maybe Jul 19 22:29:51 its got att's 3g bands Jul 19 22:30:03 maybe Jul 19 22:30:13 lol Jul 19 22:30:15 mayb Jul 19 22:30:18 eeee Jul 19 22:30:21 :) Jul 19 22:30:43 * AakashPatel heads over to droidappz.com Jul 19 22:30:47 .... Jul 19 22:30:55 dont post that shit in here Jul 19 22:30:58 no Jul 19 22:31:00 are you stupid? Jul 19 22:31:00 no Jul 19 22:31:02 +b Jul 19 22:31:09 FUCK Jul 19 22:31:11 #android Jul 19 22:31:12 damn Jul 19 22:31:15 yeah, tard Jul 19 22:31:19 hahaha Jul 19 22:31:21 hah Jul 19 22:31:31 quick Jul 19 22:31:32 might as well just tell all the devs in here Jul 19 22:31:35 talk about somethign else Jul 19 22:31:38 "hey guys im pirating your apps.. good work" Jul 19 22:31:38 jpa--: hows the waether Jul 19 22:31:47 not too bad :P Jul 19 22:31:58 i was "reading" up on the forums for some good knowledge Jul 19 22:32:00 rofl Jul 19 22:32:07 * TommyBres dont pirate nuffin on android Jul 19 22:32:13 ... Jul 19 22:32:17 how exactly does one "pirate" apps that are, most of them anyway, free Jul 19 22:32:18 srsly Jul 19 22:32:18 ok, this thing is going to ebay. Jul 19 22:32:24 ohgood: what??? Jul 19 22:32:30 ill take it for 100 Jul 19 22:32:30 rigel LOLLERCOPTER Jul 19 22:32:34 hahhahahaha Jul 19 22:32:35 Most free? Jul 19 22:32:37 lollerskates Jul 19 22:32:40 rigel: and a lot of them are not free.. and droidappz.com is bad Jul 19 22:32:48 most useful apps are not free Jul 19 22:32:50 yeah Jul 19 22:32:54 bad place kids Jul 19 22:32:57 AakashPatel, sure, it's all fun n games, but i've wasted a day trying to make this phone work. Jul 19 22:33:03 ... Jul 19 22:33:05 1 day? Jul 19 22:33:11 ohgood just get jf1.51 Jul 19 22:33:18 * ohgood sighs Jul 19 22:33:24 yeah Jul 19 22:33:26 do that Jul 19 22:33:28 man i need to run out and do groceries Jul 19 22:33:28 ohgood ive spent the last 3 months trying to make mine work, it doesnt Jul 19 22:33:28 ack Jul 19 22:33:31 "most useful apps are not free"? Jul 19 22:33:36 yes Jul 19 22:33:39 correct Jul 19 22:33:44 i havent noticed this Jul 19 22:33:57 ive probably spent $100 on android market so far Jul 19 22:33:58 TommyBres, jf1.51... and i need the sdk , and a different compueter, and and - right ? Jul 19 22:34:08 no Jul 19 22:34:16 wtf drugs are you taking Jul 19 22:34:31 i mean, i got the g1 because its linux, and i havent paid for software since approximately 1978 Jul 19 22:34:47 of course, only the last 7 or 8 years have been because of FOSS Jul 19 22:34:52 lmao TommyBres Jul 19 22:34:55 rename update.zip, on the sdcard, recovery, done Jul 19 22:34:56 i would hate to have to go back to pirating software Jul 19 22:35:10 rigel you are a clown Jul 19 22:35:13 haha Jul 19 22:35:15 worse than me Jul 19 22:35:20 TommyBres, it will not install on this phone. it complains about signatures- Jul 19 22:35:26 oh yeah Jul 19 22:35:28 it will wont it Jul 19 22:35:28 android is a ginormous java overlay thrown on a linux kernel Jul 19 22:35:42 i understand that Jul 19 22:35:44 android market is not linux open source stuff Jul 19 22:35:47 * AakashPatel acts like TommyBres knows what hes talkin about Jul 19 22:35:49 i understand that too Jul 19 22:35:50 oh yeah tommy! Jul 19 22:35:52 lol Jul 19 22:35:53 its like the iphone apps store Jul 19 22:36:01 if i may interject Jul 19 22:36:06 FUCK APPLE IN THE FUCKING EAR Jul 19 22:36:08 you may not Jul 19 22:36:09 sorry Jul 19 22:36:10 haha Jul 19 22:36:11 sit down Jul 19 22:36:14 oh man Jul 19 22:36:17 lol Jul 19 22:36:31 AakashPatel, i've tried using the 1.51, it will not, on this phone. sure, the other one. Jul 19 22:36:51 ummm get the t-mo 1.5 then Jul 19 22:36:52 yea... Jul 19 22:36:58 fuck Jul 19 22:37:00 ohgood: a few days and im sure someone will have the link Jul 19 22:37:02 is there a way i can use my g1 internet on my pc? other then the proxy trick that only works on ie? Jul 19 22:37:07 no Jul 19 22:37:10 cani: nono Jul 19 22:37:16 cani, search google noob Jul 19 22:37:19 unless you set up an adhoc network Jul 19 22:37:20 "anetshare" Jul 19 22:37:21 on your pc Jul 19 22:37:26 what was the name of that site again? droidwarez.com or something? Jul 19 22:37:27 TommyBres: that works the otehr way around Jul 19 22:37:32 blahahaha Jul 19 22:37:44 * TommyBres pings mods to ban piratess Jul 19 22:37:52 fine Jul 19 22:37:54 i did search google, hence knowing about the proxy Jul 19 22:37:55 i have 1 pirated app Jul 19 22:37:56 aakashpatel read what he said retard Jul 19 22:37:57 sue me Jul 19 22:37:58 use Jul 19 22:38:01 G1 INTERNET Jul 19 22:38:02 on Jul 19 22:38:05 COMPUTER Jul 19 22:38:06 so be more of an ass tommy Jul 19 22:38:13 not possible Jul 19 22:38:18 o shit Jul 19 22:38:27 wtf am i reading Jul 19 22:38:29 damn Jul 19 22:38:31 lol Jul 19 22:38:31 i really dont like piracy either Jul 19 22:38:37 then dont do ity Jul 19 22:38:40 i dont Jul 19 22:38:41 yeah Jul 19 22:38:46 i quit beaoch Jul 19 22:38:51 uh huh Jul 19 22:38:52 1 app :P Jul 19 22:38:58 1 Jul 19 22:38:58 i dont ever intend on selling things i have fair-used or downloaded to try out Jul 19 22:38:59 buy it aakashpatel Jul 19 22:39:00 1 Jul 19 22:39:02 1 Jul 19 22:39:03 AakashPatel, or TommyBres - how can i get past the signature errors with jesus freke's 1.51 build, please ? Jul 19 22:39:12 root Jul 19 22:39:16 TommyBres: ...fine... Jul 19 22:39:20 this is an old version anyway Jul 19 22:39:40 TommyBres, maybe you could explain a little ? Jul 19 22:40:27 TommyBres, i have rc29 ( i believe) but can't get a term, so root is difficult at least Jul 19 22:40:31 hey anyone knows how do i sign a update.zip? Jul 19 22:40:45 TommyBres: i bought it now :P Jul 19 22:40:51 nice Jul 19 22:41:00 see all you kids Jul 19 22:41:02 pirating is bad Jul 19 22:41:06 aakashpatel get the link for the root walkthrough plz Jul 19 22:41:09 * AakashPatel slaps his wrist Jul 19 22:41:13 okay Jul 19 22:41:18 downloading warez != piracy Jul 19 22:41:25 ... Jul 19 22:41:28 WUT Jul 19 22:41:36 ohgood hes gonna get you a link for a how-to Jul 19 22:41:43 http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Quick_Root Jul 19 22:41:52 piracy is when you turn around and sell someone elses IP. i.e. you benefit materially from it, financially or otherwise Jul 19 22:41:58 lol Jul 19 22:42:00 wut Jul 19 22:42:02 wrong Jul 19 22:42:14 copyright infringement is another matter Jul 19 22:42:53 * rigel queues up a youtube of "don't copy that floppy" Jul 19 22:42:55 wrong Jul 19 22:43:13 piracy is when you board someone's ship and steal their crap in the middle of the ocean. Jul 19 22:43:18 haha Jul 19 22:43:19 true Jul 19 22:43:36 * AakashPatel is no longer a pirate! Jul 19 22:43:38 arrr!!! Jul 19 22:43:40 oh wait Jul 19 22:43:57 what noise do non pirates make lol Jul 19 22:44:04 how to tell if you're a pirate: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLsJyfN0ICU Jul 19 22:44:15 AakashPatel, silence. That's the sound ninjas make Jul 19 22:44:20 ahh Jul 19 22:44:25 lol Jul 19 22:44:54 god KNY Jul 19 22:44:58 i've seen taht show a few times Jul 19 22:45:19 haha Jul 19 22:45:25 I never have, except for that clip Jul 19 22:45:35 its...really...that...bad Jul 19 22:45:37 anyone lol? Jul 19 22:45:44 k4r1m: what did you ask lol Jul 19 22:45:53 how do i sign an update.zip? Jul 19 22:45:56 oh Jul 19 22:46:02 are you on official rom? Jul 19 22:46:10 or recovery Jul 19 22:46:13 cuz you cant on those Jul 19 22:46:24 im on hero Jul 19 22:46:28 uhh Jul 19 22:46:34 does the recovery thing have test-keys thing? Jul 19 22:46:39 yup Jul 19 22:46:51 oh Jul 19 22:46:54 then hold on Jul 19 22:46:59 lemme upload this thing Jul 19 22:47:11 kthx Jul 19 22:47:24 im just playing with JacHero trying to make a rogers version for magic ;] Jul 19 22:47:49 also does anyone know where i could change the cpu max/min values from? Jul 19 22:48:44 http://www.speedyshare.com/779576314.html Jul 19 22:48:46 here Jul 19 22:48:59 hi, has anyone tried building the android sources for the Dev Phone (Dream) and installing on an HTC Magic? Is this possible? Jul 19 22:49:39 AakashPatel: what do i do with that? Jul 19 22:49:48 there is a jar Jul 19 22:49:50 in there Jul 19 22:49:53 and a read me Jul 19 22:49:57 its easy Jul 19 22:49:59 lol Jul 19 22:50:08 kthx Jul 19 22:50:15 u know anything about the cpu speed? Jul 19 22:50:21 ? Jul 19 22:50:25 it doenst matter Jul 19 22:51:24 well no the jachero rom is cloacked at a max of 38something which the stock for g1 Jul 19 22:51:30 but the magic stock is 528mhz Jul 19 22:51:48 so im trying to change the max to 528mhz... is that something done from the boot.img? Jul 19 22:52:22 it won't make it run much (or at all) faster. Jul 19 22:52:27 it will only make it drain battery much quicker Jul 19 22:53:01 really? ok but just out of curiosty for future reference how do u do it? Jul 19 22:53:02 oh Jul 19 22:53:06 you dont really notice the diff Jul 19 22:53:17 k4r1m: you can change the values in two files Jul 19 22:53:21 or get a widget Jul 19 22:53:25 jasta, in your possibly professional opinion, what's the biggest bottleneck on the G1? the RAM? Jul 19 22:53:27 overclock widget Jul 19 22:53:39 AakashPatel: which two files? Jul 19 22:53:43 k4r1m: uhhh Jul 19 22:53:44 hold on Jul 19 22:54:03 AakashPatel: im trying to make it default on this update.zip im slapping together Jul 19 22:54:08 KNY: i would say memory, yes. if you could hold every app in memory indefinitely and never have to invoke the low memory killer you'd be much better off. Jul 19 22:54:20 wtf Jul 19 22:54:22 device not found Jul 19 22:54:27 lol Jul 19 22:54:34 jasta: u know how? Jul 19 22:54:47 k4r1m: no, i just know about the results of folks who have done it. Jul 19 22:54:56 honestly, if it wa sa good idea, don't you think HTC would have clocked it up? Jul 19 22:55:08 thats not what im saying. Jul 19 22:55:21 my magic is clocked at 528. but the jachero rom clocks it down to 384 Jul 19 22:55:31 gahh Jul 19 22:55:34 why isnt adb working Jul 19 22:55:39 k4r1m, no, it's underclocked when it ships (IIRC) Jul 19 22:55:55 k4r1m, the factory ROMs clock it to 384 Jul 19 22:56:07 oh! Jul 19 22:56:09 hahaha Jul 19 22:56:11 my phone is off Jul 19 22:56:11 KNY: hm even for the 32A magic? Jul 19 22:56:20 k4r1m: yes. Jul 19 22:56:34 they underclock it because the performance isn't worth the massive battery drain Jul 19 22:56:59 k so wait Jul 19 22:57:01 ok theortically if i were to overclock from a rom update.zip how would it be done? Jul 19 22:57:19 it's like "hey we put a 528mhz chip into your phone, buuut we underclocked it so you'll only get 384mhz out of it" Jul 19 22:57:31 jpa--, yes Jul 19 22:57:44 `cool Jul 19 22:58:05 gahh Jul 19 22:58:09 im lookin for it lo Jul 19 22:58:11 now THATS cutting corners Jul 19 22:58:14 oh Jul 19 22:58:24 KNY: honestly that doesnt make any sense at all.. because they are giving the g1 users a 384mhz that is clocked a 384mhz. Jul 19 22:58:42 "instead of paying more money for a better battery... we'll just underclock the CPU so the crappy battery lasts longer" Jul 19 22:58:50 how come they dont underclock the g1's? Jul 19 22:58:53 k4r1m, you sure about that? http://www.htc.com/www/product/dream/specification.html Jul 19 22:58:54 there is such a thing as a rate of diminishing returns. Jul 19 22:59:18 jpa--: that's a very naive interpretation. Jul 19 22:59:32 they do underclock them Jul 19 22:59:34 the people making the decision about what's in your pocket picked a point and shipped. Jul 19 22:59:39 jasta: that's exactly why im trying to clarify Jul 19 22:59:46 528mhz proc runs at 245-384 Jul 19 22:59:47 bleh Jul 19 22:59:48 i lost the file Jul 19 23:00:00 fine w\e lol Jul 19 23:00:11 again, CPU isnt the major constraint on your device ffs. Jul 19 23:00:19 jpa--: the chips clock speed typically means only what it is known to run safely at Jul 19 23:00:20 ^right Jul 19 23:00:25 jpa--: not what it runs optimally at. Jul 19 23:00:42 TommyBres: you remember that file i sent you? Jul 19 23:00:45 whre it was on the phone? Jul 19 23:00:46 i lost it lol Jul 19 23:00:51 the path Jul 19 23:00:51 me too Jul 19 23:00:51 just like a car's speedometer -- it doesn't mean you're wasting the engine every time you drive under 140mph. Jul 19 23:01:14 truahh true Jul 19 23:01:20 these chips run optimally at slower clock speeds, becoming power efficient. Jul 19 23:01:21 good analogy Jul 19 23:01:38 and power efficiency is the goal of mobile chips. Jul 19 23:01:46 hm whats the /data/app_s and /data/app folders for in an update.zip? Jul 19 23:02:21 jasta: we need android device powered by nvdia tegra. Jul 19 23:02:21 ahh hah! Jul 19 23:02:28 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_max_freq Jul 19 23:02:32 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq Jul 19 23:02:35 /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq Jul 19 23:02:41 yay Jul 19 23:03:36 :) Jul 19 23:03:39 mmm i want some chips Jul 19 23:03:44 * AakashPatel lewks for some Jul 19 23:03:57 anyone? im just trying to default Rosie.apk with http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532822 in the update.zip self not after the flash Jul 19 23:04:25 do i just push it do update.zip/data/app_s/ ? Jul 19 23:04:50 ? Jul 19 23:05:18 1 handed typing ftl Jul 19 23:05:57 wondering if english is his first language Jul 19 23:06:25 nope lol Jul 19 23:07:10 oh okay sorry then Jul 19 23:07:21 hah Jul 19 23:07:33 its all good, i just try to type too fast for my own good. Jul 19 23:08:06 so anyone lol? Jul 19 23:08:17 haha i have no clue what you even said Jul 19 23:08:30 me either lol Jul 19 23:08:42 lol im trying to change the Rosie.apk Jul 19 23:08:43 im pretty fast typing 1 handed lol Jul 19 23:09:16 haha get lotsa practice late at night i bet Jul 19 23:09:30 haha Jul 19 23:09:47 u r sexy Jul 19 23:09:51 plz 2 cyber AakashPatel? Jul 19 23:09:58 AakashPatel: i'm trying to replace a Rosie.apk on a rom with a different one... how do i go about doing that? Jul 19 23:10:22 lmao jpa-- Jul 19 23:10:38 k4r1m: uhh where is the original one Jul 19 23:10:44 in the fime system Jul 19 23:10:48 file Jul 19 23:10:50 im out Jul 19 23:10:52 l8r Jul 19 23:10:54 cya Jul 19 23:11:29 AakashPatel: well there is no system/app Jul 19 23:11:42 since im trying to change it from the update.zip Jul 19 23:11:46 and reflash it Jul 19 23:12:09 all of the apps are either in data/app_s or data/app Jul 19 23:12:21 maybe Jul 19 23:12:25 im not sure Jul 19 23:12:47 alright ima try my luck Jul 19 23:13:32 :) Jul 19 23:14:11 i wonder if its a bad idea if i add bloo so the rom lol Jul 19 23:14:18 ya Jul 19 23:14:22 it is lol Jul 19 23:14:29 i dont care lmao Jul 19 23:14:32 hahah Jul 19 23:14:35 didnt even pay for it anyway Jul 19 23:14:49 hahaha pirate! Jul 19 23:15:02 we just talked about that lmao Jul 19 23:15:05 might aswell add task manager and screenshot Jul 19 23:15:47 heh Jul 19 23:17:02 lol the italian job Jul 19 23:17:15 should be called JacSparrow Jul 19 23:17:29 JacSparrowHero* not JacHero lol Jul 19 23:19:03 lol Jul 19 23:21:08 where the hell are the system wallpapers located? Jul 19 23:21:51 in Launcher.apk Jul 19 23:22:08 aw Jul 19 23:23:41 AakashPatel: how am i suppose to use that auto sign tool if i dont have "java" in my command line Jul 19 23:23:49 do i need cygwin? Jul 19 23:25:50 uhh Jul 19 23:25:51 what? Jul 19 23:25:59 you install it Jul 19 23:26:00 :P Jul 19 23:26:11 how do you not have java installed? lol Jul 19 23:26:17 i do Jul 19 23:26:22 it just wasnt in my Path Jul 19 23:26:24 then is it in your path Jul 19 23:26:25 oh Jul 19 23:26:27 :P Jul 19 23:28:27 Do you guys know if the google voice application for android actually uses the system dialer, or is it something separate? Jul 19 23:29:04 actually what s the deal with google voice Jul 19 23:29:25 can I disable my regular phone subscription? Jul 19 23:29:38 chuck: i read it replaced/uses the system dialer Jul 19 23:29:47 zelrikriando: no Jul 19 23:30:05 AakashPatel: that s too bad Jul 19 23:30:19 yeah Jul 19 23:30:19 i wish there was like voip or somethign Jul 19 23:30:20 I thought I d be ok with a data plan only Jul 19 23:33:21 sipa1024: damn... that's one of the reasons why I want an android phone Jul 19 23:33:47 AakashPatel: signing it right now =P Jul 19 23:33:51 :) Jul 19 23:33:59 applications can change anything, and there are no crazy restrictions and regulations like Apple and AT&T have made Jul 19 23:34:30 not anything Jul 19 23:34:51 AakashPatel: is the signed package suppose to be smaller? Jul 19 23:35:14 no Jul 19 23:35:18 bigger loil Jul 19 23:35:21 lol* Jul 19 23:35:26 are you sure? Jul 19 23:35:31 it ads some certificates Jul 19 23:35:35 adds* Jul 19 23:35:46 no Jul 19 23:35:49 sometimes i get a smaller file Jul 19 23:35:58 nothing more then 10 kb though Jul 19 23:36:00 normally like 3-4 Jul 19 23:36:21 wut? Jul 19 23:36:23 how Jul 19 23:36:28 no idea Jul 19 23:36:30 just how it happens Jul 19 23:36:34 oh Jul 19 23:36:35 rTk_cool: orginal size was 81,817,611 now its (81,585,283 bytes is that all good? Jul 19 23:36:38 and the file is never corrupt Jul 19 23:36:45 ehh Jul 19 23:36:47 try resigning Jul 19 23:36:58 that actually might be fine Jul 19 23:36:58 kk Jul 19 23:37:02 but resign Jul 19 23:37:06 if u get the same thing twice then it's fine Jul 19 23:37:24 aakash do u ever sign stuff Jul 19 23:37:36 yea Jul 19 23:37:44 urs is always larger by a few kb? Jul 19 23:37:46 dis is my first time lol i hope i could fully flash this =P Jul 19 23:37:47 few times before Jul 19 23:37:49 now Jul 19 23:37:51 err Jul 19 23:37:53 never checked Jul 19 23:38:05 k4r1m there are some files that you can't delete Jul 19 23:38:06 k4r1m: double check your script Jul 19 23:38:14 such as all of the google apps Jul 19 23:38:23 AakashPatel: how do i do that>? Jul 19 23:38:24 hahaha Jul 19 23:38:30 this taco bell comerical is sweet Jul 19 23:38:32 81,585,283 Jul 19 23:38:32 k4r1m dont listen to him Jul 19 23:38:33 k4r1m: wut? Jul 19 23:38:34 still the same Jul 19 23:38:35 same thing? Jul 19 23:38:37 k Jul 19 23:38:39 u should be fine Jul 19 23:38:40 just flash it Jul 19 23:38:46 im confused Jul 19 23:38:48 he made his own update Jul 19 23:38:55 right? Jul 19 23:39:00 yeah Jul 19 23:39:12 and there should be a script in there that you made Jul 19 23:39:24 well i didnt make my own update Jul 19 23:39:24 i think he just downloaded one and deleted apps Jul 19 23:39:31 yeah Jul 19 23:39:34 that will fuck it up Jul 19 23:39:40 i basiclally just changed some files in JacHero and added a few things Jul 19 23:39:44 yeah Jul 19 23:39:45 ur fine Jul 19 23:39:49 uhh Jul 19 23:39:51 fine Jul 19 23:39:53 i do it all the time Jul 19 23:39:55 im still confused Jul 19 23:39:56 lol Jul 19 23:40:01 if u download jachero Jul 19 23:40:04 delete the media files Jul 19 23:40:10 change the boot.mp3 Jul 19 23:40:11 why is that? Jul 19 23:40:15 META-INF/com/google/android/update-script Jul 19 23:40:16 no im saying Jul 19 23:40:24 ur fine Jul 19 23:40:30 but im talking to aakash Jul 19 23:40:32 hold on Jul 19 23:40:34 :/ Jul 19 23:40:40 yeah Jul 19 23:40:43 i guess jsut try Jul 19 23:40:44 if u delete stuff like that and the smswidget and book marks widget Jul 19 23:40:49 u just delete them Jul 19 23:40:50 then resign it Jul 19 23:40:53 and it's good Jul 19 23:41:02 uhh Jul 19 23:41:04 not really Jul 19 23:41:06 yes Jul 19 23:41:07 really Jul 19 23:41:09 i do it all the time Jul 19 23:41:09 have you used a f'ed up script before? Jul 19 23:41:12 i have also :) Jul 19 23:41:15 here is what i did.. changed the wlan.ko with the magic one, changed the boot.img with the one from the magic hero build, added a couple of apps in data/app and changed Rosie.apk in /data/app_s Jul 19 23:41:29 it will bork an error atyou when running it if something is missing Jul 19 23:41:30 ur finje Jul 19 23:41:32 ur fine Jul 19 23:41:34 just run it lol Jul 19 23:41:39 lol fine Jul 19 23:42:08 i do that stuff daily Jul 19 23:42:15 i change my boot.mp3 Jul 19 23:42:25 delete the media stuff i wont use Jul 19 23:42:30 i keep like 2 notification sounds Jul 19 23:42:32 stuff like that Jul 19 23:42:39 delete the smswidget.apk and .odex Jul 19 23:42:42 book marks Jul 19 23:42:46 mail.apk Jul 19 23:42:52 well technically i deleted all of the ringontes on the update.zip just because i have them on my scard Jul 19 23:42:56 some other stuff like teeter Jul 19 23:43:05 true true Jul 19 23:43:27 but i didnt wanna delete them right now since i might upload this to xda Jul 19 23:43:39 heh Jul 19 23:43:42 don't worry about it Jul 19 23:43:47 just keep the awesome heroness to urself Jul 19 23:44:02 yeah still not sure about adding bloo lmao Jul 19 23:44:25 i did but lol i honestly dont give a crap... i added bloo advance task manager and screenshot lulz Jul 19 23:45:48 wiped, now applying seems to be going fine Jul 19 23:47:59 that was oddly quick Jul 19 23:48:48 yummy hero boot sound Jul 19 23:50:43 rTk_cool: success. Jul 19 23:51:28 k4r1m: what are you doing Jul 19 23:51:56 zelrikriando: JacHero with super optimized Rosie for rogers magic ;] Jul 19 23:51:58 zelrikriando: I am watching baseball. Jul 19 23:52:17 k4r1m: hmmmmm Jul 19 23:52:23 k4r1m: tell me how it goes Jul 19 23:52:25 anyone have issues with downloaded apps not appearing on the main list of apps? Jul 19 23:52:30 zelrikriando: its truly delicous Jul 19 23:52:32 like lobster Jul 19 23:52:40 k4r1m: and if you know how to backup stuff, let me know as well Jul 19 23:52:55 I wont try new roms if I dont know how to backup my personal settings Jul 19 23:53:06 zelrikriando: just google sync everything Jul 19 23:53:32 zelrikriando: i have added the rogers apn stuff :D just gonna make sure everything is good and i might upload it lol Jul 19 23:53:34 k4r1m: oh does that work? Jul 19 23:53:56 zelrikriando: yup yup Jul 19 23:54:02 hmmm Jul 19 23:54:26 so meebo for instance will have my accounts saved Jul 19 23:54:31 ? Jul 19 23:55:07 no those type of settings have to be done in a different way Jul 19 23:55:20 k4r1m: seeee Jul 19 23:55:30 I am scared to install new roms Jul 19 23:55:34 because of that Jul 19 23:55:42 not that I have a whole lot to change Jul 19 23:55:43 how is that scarey? Jul 19 23:55:46 just resign in. Jul 19 23:56:20 and my playlist on the music player? Jul 19 23:56:25 plus why are you using multiple account in meebo? just register for a meebo account and assosicate your im accounts with it so you will always need to sign in to one account Jul 19 23:56:38 zelrikriando: that should be fine since its in ur sdcard i believe Jul 19 23:57:21 k4r1m: hu? I am not sure I get the meebo thing Jul 19 23:57:42 do you have a meebo account? Jul 19 23:58:25 k4r1m: I have meebo with other accounts on it Jul 19 23:58:39 not sure about an account on meebo Jul 19 23:58:39 zelrikriando: thats what i was basically saying Jul 19 23:58:49 k4r1m: how do I do that Jul 20 00:00:02 zelrikriando: just go to meebo and register Jul 20 00:00:40 anyone ever have that problem? Jul 20 00:07:07 k4r1m: now I cant delete my other accounts on my phone Jul 20 00:07:30 zelrikriando: yes you can. long press on the account Jul 20 00:09:08 k4r1m: neat Jul 20 00:10:13 I tend to forget some touch screen features Jul 20 00:10:53 k4r1m: did you try the wifi and stuff on JacHero ? Jul 20 00:30:21 zelrikriando: yeah wifi is working, 3g is working Jul 20 00:30:42 it *feels* so much faster but ram usage seems to be about the same Jul 20 00:31:10 k4r1m: ok I might try it then Jul 20 00:31:29 i still need change a few things lol Jul 20 00:31:35 ill see how it goes Jul 20 00:32:06 rmm Jul 20 00:32:10 i want a bunch of books on my phone Jul 20 00:32:14 what's the best format for ebooks? Jul 20 00:32:19 and what's the best reader ? Jul 20 00:36:16 jpa--: pdfreader? Jul 20 00:42:54 k4r1m: *shrug* i thought there might be a better format for ebooks Jul 20 00:43:06 jpa--: html Jul 20 00:45:02 zelrikriando: html? for ebooks? Jul 20 00:45:03 know where i can find some? Jul 20 00:45:44 jpa--: it's just that I remember finding one of those adventure interactive book in the app market, and it was just a mere link to a website Jul 20 00:47:40 ya some sort of compiled html fomat is een those before Jul 20 01:20:44 how do i go about removing a boot up sound? Jul 20 01:21:07 rTk_cool: is that boot.mp3 u were talking about is the boot sound? Jul 20 01:22:55 hey guys. anyone know what this last firmware push from tmo is about? Jul 20 01:23:59 can anyone help w/ ddms? Jul 20 01:27:55 what was tmobile's firmware push? Jul 20 01:30:43 i did it, i installed os/2 on my g1 Jul 20 01:31:46 ibm, your the greatest! Jul 20 01:32:22 LOL Jul 20 01:32:32 I just saw an iPhone 3GS commercial Jul 20 01:32:39 "Copy and paste: NOW on the iPhone!" Jul 20 01:34:48 LOL! Jul 20 01:34:48 EugeneKay: i know! Jul 20 01:34:56 i see that one like 2 times a day lol Jul 20 01:36:38 anyone running the new jachero? Jul 20 01:37:49 EugeneKay, what is really awesome with the commerical is that the guy speaking really makes it sound like its a total revolution! But the worst is that most apple fans don't even admit their product is missing things... Jul 20 01:38:30 By "fans" you mean "mindless fanatics", of course Jul 20 01:38:54 <_Auron|G1_> c/p iphone didn't have? Jul 20 01:39:11 negative Jul 20 01:39:17 no c/p Jul 20 01:39:18 <_Auron|G1_> that's so 1980s Jul 20 01:39:21 lol Jul 20 01:39:45 i rember wanting an iphone Jul 20 01:39:55 then i found android Jul 20 01:40:00 <_Auron|G1_> I never wanted one Jul 20 01:40:27 <_Auron|G1_> I've always known apple products to be gimmicky, overrated, and overpriced Jul 20 01:40:30 current android is great but apps are to limited Jul 20 01:40:45 me neither. That said, I do have an iPod touch and really like it. Having just two button is alright for a music player, but for a phone, are you kidding? Jul 20 01:40:48 i just want a vlc player and a dyno lol Jul 20 01:41:11 And come on, having to search through all that crap of icons to find the "phone" application... good luck! Jul 20 01:41:12 <_Auron|G1_> dyno? Jul 20 01:41:33 car performance monitor. prety much Jul 20 01:41:53 http://www.dynolicious.com/ Jul 20 01:42:42 they have it for iphone and blackberry but no android wtf... Jul 20 01:42:57 bb is the most useless phn ever Jul 20 01:43:33 <_Auron|G1_> I have a friend that will argue with you for hours on that Jul 20 01:43:48 <_Auron|G1_> he loves bb Jul 20 01:44:14 Same here ;) Jul 20 01:44:24 i gues the pearl put a sour taste in my mouth Jul 20 01:44:30 He tried to convice me to buy a BB instead of Samsung Galaxy haha Jul 20 01:45:15 <_Auron|G1_> he also keeps trying to tell me how much better his phone plan is than mine Jul 20 01:45:18 ive been running smartphones for a while and every bb i have come by has been so boring that i got sick of it realllll quick Jul 20 01:45:39 speaking of phn plans what tmo plan do you use for voice Jul 20 01:46:06 i use an average of about 75-100min a month i need to save money somehow. Jul 20 01:46:16 will chrome ever be available for android? Jul 20 01:46:49 hi all. i am confused. does cupcake come with voice recognition or not? Jul 20 01:46:50 chrome browser? Jul 20 01:46:57 yes it has v r Jul 20 01:47:09 I think Jul 20 01:47:09 <_Auron|G1_> I have a contract free flexpay with myfaves Jul 20 01:47:14 does anyone know what this last g1 tmobile ota push? Jul 20 01:47:14 yah, the browser Jul 20 01:47:14 now you have me second guessing. Jul 20 01:47:21 do0zman: strange. how do i activate it for the keyboard? does anybody know? Jul 20 01:47:36 i dont think it woks for the keyboard Jul 20 01:47:44 but then again i may be wrong. Jul 20 01:47:53 this http://www.youtube.com/user/androiddevelopers vid from androiddev claims it does Jul 20 01:48:09 but i have never come across any option for vr on my device. Jul 20 01:48:33 i am using the galaxy though, maybe its only a g1/magic-only thing atm? Jul 20 01:50:46 should be the same pretty much Jul 20 01:51:05 what time does he speak about vr keyboard Jul 20 01:51:21 http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2009/02/search-with-your-voice-on-android.html Jul 20 01:51:33 take the blog instead. gives you all the info Jul 20 01:51:38 but nothing on the galaxy Jul 20 01:51:42 you can do a voice search but not type while talking Jul 20 01:52:00 oh maybe it is just limited to us customers Jul 20 01:54:32 doubt it Jul 20 01:54:53 i can pull the apk you can try to install it but i dunno what more there will be to making it work on the galaxy Jul 20 01:57:03 is there anyone on JFv1.51 US or EU that is currently getting the update notifications? Jul 20 01:58:18 sorry man not on one of your builds Jul 20 01:58:28 JesusFreke, i'm not Jul 20 01:58:38 JesusFreke yeah I am Jul 20 01:58:40 JesusFreke, want me to do a manual update check Jul 20 01:58:41 JF-1.51 US Jul 20 01:58:53 oh google update or JF update? Jul 20 01:59:04 google update (well, t-mobile update) Jul 20 01:59:22 AlienX: sure, if you don't mind Jul 20 01:59:25 yeah getting the google/tmo update Jul 20 01:59:36 and i verified that otacerts.zip is in place Jul 20 01:59:39 spikebike: ah, k. you're on JFv1.51 US? Jul 20 01:59:46 yeah. Jul 20 01:59:48 hm Jul 20 01:59:55 was reading comments Jul 20 02:00:01 about connectbot Jul 20 02:00:06 spikebike: k. if you don't mind, gimme just a min, and I'd like you to try something Jul 20 02:00:15 "best ssh client for android" Jul 20 02:00:23 is there another one? Jul 20 02:00:24 (replace systemupdater with a modified copy.. trying to disable it) Jul 20 02:00:30 we are bolding soon, but if will be back in an hour or soon Jul 20 02:00:45 I didn't try your suggested replacement of er build.pod or whatever it was from you radp1 release Jul 20 02:00:47 spikebike: k, that's fine. just ping me when you get back, if you don't forget :) Jul 20 02:00:51 Mabe JesusFreke will write a ssh client sometime. Jul 20 02:00:55 cool Jul 20 02:00:57 Keep fingers crossed. Jul 20 02:00:57 will do Jul 20 02:00:59 why would I write an ssh client? Jul 20 02:01:03 For fun. Jul 20 02:01:03 connectbot++ Jul 20 02:01:09 what's wrong with connectbot? Jul 20 02:01:12 no way I could do better than that :) Jul 20 02:01:19 JesusFreke, no updates found...but I just checked and it looks like I'm using your dev phone image. Jul 20 02:01:23 macer has problems with it Jul 20 02:01:41 huh? Jul 20 02:01:50 no Jul 20 02:01:54 it works great Jul 20 02:01:55 Oh, I misread. Jul 20 02:01:56 heh Jul 20 02:03:05 does debian run on a g1? Jul 20 02:03:14 like at least a chroot userspace? Jul 20 02:03:19 that would be neet Jul 20 02:03:40 apparently Jul 20 02:03:43 yep Jul 20 02:05:56 heh Jul 20 02:06:01 what about gcc? Jul 20 02:06:03 :) Jul 20 02:06:14 so wouldnt it be like using qemu Jul 20 02:06:19 except native? Jul 20 02:07:06 * Macer has to see about dropbear first Jul 20 02:07:19 and see about sshing into the phone Jul 20 02:11:29 hey guys, having a few problems with my HTC magic. Something happens (not sure what) and then i can't receive any calls. It just goes straight to message bank. I can make calls but it doesn't let me know that people can't call me. Any ideas which app handles receiving calls Jul 20 02:11:54 i also notice that i dont' get the option to restart the phone if i hold down the power button. I can only shutdown when this occurs Jul 20 02:14:50 is it rooted? Jul 20 02:22:53 this service manual for the dream is intereseting Jul 20 02:30:59 steel is pretty good Jul 20 02:31:09 i think it is because you can tag bookmarks Jul 20 02:31:29 and give them some sort of organizational structure Jul 20 02:34:31 lol this service manual goes in to DETAIL Jul 20 02:34:42 like whats acceptable and not Jul 20 02:35:01 Scratch Jul 20 02:35:03 0.03 < W ≦ 0.1 (mm) Jul 20 02:35:05 L ≦ 5 (mm), N ≦ 2 (mm) Jul 20 02:35:34 There are too many cut corners in the mobile world, huh? Jul 20 02:35:53 Hardware released with miniscule memory and rom space Jul 20 02:35:58 Browsers without bookmark organization Jul 20 02:36:06 lol Jul 20 02:36:12 you should take a look at this thing Jul 20 02:36:17 if you havent seen the phone Jul 20 02:36:21 and looked at the manual Jul 20 02:36:32 you would think its an excellent piece of hardware Jul 20 02:36:45 amason_: what ROM/firmware are you using? stock? Jul 20 02:37:47 Radix_: yeh stock Jul 20 02:37:50 from 3 Jul 20 02:38:21 amason_: wierd. Best thing is to talk to 3 - it sounds more like a carrier problem really. Jul 20 02:38:28 k Jul 20 02:38:47 if i restart the phone it works Jul 20 02:38:49 amason_: no rom offers restart btw Jul 20 02:38:55 at least none I've seen Jul 20 02:38:57 yeh it does. Jul 20 02:38:59 mine does Jul 20 02:39:01 by default Jul 20 02:39:08 in its unfucked state Jul 20 02:39:33 sorry Jul 20 02:39:37 no it doesn't Jul 20 02:39:46 it gives other options Jul 20 02:39:49 slient mode Jul 20 02:39:55 airplane mode Jul 20 02:40:12 often switching to/from airplane mode can help resolve network issues Jul 20 02:40:21 i don't get those options though Jul 20 02:40:26 when it does it thing Jul 20 02:40:40 mine offers, Power Off, Silent Mode, Vibration Mode, Airplane Mode and Mobile Network on/off Jul 20 02:40:40 the thing that annoys me most is that i don't know when people can't call me Jul 20 02:40:55 but cupcake/HTC builds don't offer all of those Jul 20 02:40:55 i don't know when it goes into its messup up stage Jul 20 02:40:57 state Jul 20 02:41:29 I've never experienced those issues with my carrier, but I've heard of a number of 3 customers having similar issues Jul 20 02:41:51 Winmo users on 3 used to get the same thing happen.. couldn't receive calls Jul 20 02:43:02 ok Jul 20 02:43:03 hmm Jul 20 02:43:05 will enquire Jul 20 02:43:16 maybe 3 is just fscked **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Jul 20 02:59:57 2009