**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 15 02:59:58 2007 Jan 15 04:55:06 hi koen RP Jan 15 08:26:16 <_law_> hmm bluez pairing doesnt work :-( i always get the following error: call_passkey_agent(): no agent registered Jan 15 08:28:49 <_law_> i have tried to setup a passkey in hcid.conf, create a /etc/bluetooth/pin file and set this als pin_helper an i have tried dbus_pin_helper Jan 15 08:42:22 <_law_> btw. http://www.virtualbox.org :-) Jan 15 09:02:29 morning Jan 15 09:08:25 <_law_> hi XorA Jan 15 09:17:40 _law_: still bluetooth problems? Jan 15 09:17:54 <_law_> XorA, yes :-( Jan 15 09:18:31 <_law_> XorA, are you useing angstrom with bluetooth? Jan 15 09:18:47 <_law_> i am not able to pair my mobile phone Jan 15 09:19:03 _law_: I havent for ages, Im not sure if I got my BT card in today or not Jan 15 09:19:50 <_law_> XorA, ah ok bt works fine for me with .dev OZ some month ago... Jan 15 09:48:25 <_law_> hmm i think i have do register a default passkey-agent with passkey-agent --default /usr/bin/foo but this tools isnt installed... Jan 15 10:19:22 <_law_> ok filed a bug... Jan 15 10:51:40 <_law_> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.bluez.user/11479 Jan 15 10:51:56 <_law_> ok so there is now pin_helper anymore... Jan 15 11:08:50 Anyone with Nokia770 experience around here atm? Jan 15 11:12:19 Cockroach-: I have some Jan 15 11:13:09 lardman: If compiling årmströng for 770, am I required to tweak the initfs as well? Jan 15 11:13:44 You shouldn't need to (from using and talking to Florian about the old familiar image) Jan 15 11:14:06 In fact you don't need to, to clarify my response Jan 15 11:14:13 well, the /lib/modules/,,, overlaps the /lib/modules in the rootfs Jan 15 11:14:22 ... the previous one being in the initfs Jan 15 11:14:40 yep, that was always the way Jan 15 11:14:55 I guess it does a chroot after it boots Jan 15 11:15:32 But how to solve that problem, since now I cannot use the modules I compile with OE, just the default ones which are provided by the original Maemo initfs Jan 15 11:16:28 Well you could use new modules (as they cannot be in the initfs as you can't access it) as long as you compile the correct kernel Jan 15 11:16:46 It doesn't really matter where they're stored, just give the path to the files Jan 15 11:18:46 The more annying thing is that some processes can't be restarted as they live in the initfs (like dsme, and the one which handles the backlight control - name escapes me, been a while) Jan 15 11:19:09 Has minilite been patched to use dbus? Jan 15 11:19:25 I would hate to tweak the .jffs2 build recepies with my bitbake "skills" to copy the modules somewhere else than /lib/modules... And just to be clear, when you said "you can't access it [initfs], you mean I cannot copy the modules (which I built) there? Jan 15 11:20:16 It's possible to copy stuff there by remounting the initfs, but I wouldn't recommend it (not least as it's got a fixed maximum size) Jan 15 11:20:25 god damn I hate to communicate with my bad english, in IRC, about subject I know far too little :) Jan 15 11:20:31 you should place modules in /lib/modules/... as usual Jan 15 11:21:19 the /lib dir in the initfs is no longer accessible when you're running gpe (or maemo etc.) as it does a chroot to make the flash image the root Jan 15 11:21:27 hope that makes sense Jan 15 11:22:02 at least installed angstrom-bootstrap-image and booting, it doesn't do any chroot Jan 15 11:22:13 The initfs does that Jan 15 11:22:22 the /lib/modules is still pointing to /mnt/initfs/lib/modules Jan 15 11:22:24 At least that;'s the only way I can see it working Jan 15 11:22:30 Oh Jan 15 11:22:33 I see Jan 15 11:22:34 which is the problem Jan 15 11:22:35 not sure then Jan 15 11:23:16 Is there some kind of overlay fs at work? Can you write to that dir? Jan 15 11:23:38 What do the various people who release modules for maemo do? Jan 15 11:24:39 I suppose you could always change the symlink to point into your filesystem.... Jan 15 11:25:31 Well, I'm just curious how is it supposed to work. After all, the 770 was/is a target for this distribution(?). Jan 15 11:26:25 Yes, but the working images only just worked in reality. There are issues obtaining battery status (though I have some code to fix this) and the backlight can't be controlled. Jan 15 11:26:36 I think that kernel modules are further down the road that this Jan 15 11:26:50 s/that/than Jan 15 11:27:31 gpe-image's do not compile because the required depencies for xserver-kdrive-omap are now removed from the OE metadata. So I just tried to compile the bootstrap. But the /dev/fb doesn't work on that. and I get no clear error why Jan 15 11:28:04 so I decided "I build the fb-support as module, maybe more error messages can be seen". But now I have this directory overlapping problem =) Jan 15 11:28:54 Oh, coffee break. To be continued... Jan 15 11:29:20 I see, well you can insmod the module even if it's not in the correct directory, I'd try that Jan 15 11:29:57 I think koen's suggestion was to build the xserver from the Nokia code Jan 15 11:30:30 <_law_> could it be, that angstrom is build without bluez dbus option? Jan 15 11:36:16 _law_: bluez 3.x can't be built without dbus anymore. Jan 15 11:37:02 <_law_> pH5, ok so this couldnt be the problem Jan 15 11:39:22 <_law_> pH5, but if i start the bluetooth service syslog writes pin_dbus_helper is an unknow option. Jan 15 11:40:36 _law_: I think the dbus_helper interface is obsolete. bluez uses a 'passkey agent' now. Jan 15 11:41:49 <_law_> pH5, so i have do use bluez-pin ? Jan 15 11:44:08 I cant even get my bluetooth card to initialise Jan 15 11:44:33 _law_: afaik bluez-pin and gpe-bluetooth still use the old interface... Jan 15 11:44:35 gpe-bluetooth says cant register obex service Jan 15 11:45:23 XorA: "can't register obex service" can mean either bluez wasn't started, or that dbus wasn't started Jan 15 11:46:33 * XorA loses interest Jan 15 11:47:07 XorA: btw, abiword 2.5.0 has broken packaging Jan 15 11:47:08 one day someone shall make bluetooth work(tm) Jan 15 11:47:18 XorA: they forgot to include the perl cdump Jan 15 11:47:28 and gpe-bluetooth doesn't work for usb bt cards, because it expects me to use hciattach Jan 15 11:47:28 koen: :-( Jan 15 11:48:07 XorA: I forwarded you the mail from tf Jan 15 11:48:19 <_law_> pH5, i have got a nokia cf bluetooth card Jan 15 11:49:09 _law_: dtl1_cs? me too. Jan 15 11:49:10 koen: sweet Jan 15 11:49:37 my BT cards suffers from the suckassness of linux serial drivers which have regressed from 2.0 days Jan 15 11:49:40 <_law_> pH5, yes Jan 15 11:50:05 <_law_> pH5, but i dont get paired with my mobile phone Jan 15 11:54:55 XorA: I just pushed abiword-2.5.inc Jan 15 11:55:29 dtl1_cs suxx Jan 15 11:55:46 _law_: me neither. I use hciconfig hci0 noauth noencrypt to get a connection at all. Jan 15 11:56:01 my card does not even want to work in zaurus.. tried collie, c760, tosa Jan 15 11:56:02 hrw|work: the driver or the hardware or both? Jan 15 11:56:22 pH5: driver lack suspend/resume, hardware do only 230kbps Jan 15 11:56:35 pH5: so both suxx Jan 15 11:57:19 <_law_> hrw|work, but this should be much enough for my gprs / umts phone or? Jan 15 11:57:46 _law_: for gprs/edge ones yes Jan 15 11:59:11 hrw|work: I have one in the laptop to connect a mouse. There are some interrupt problems sometimes, but other than that, it is good enough for this job :) Jan 15 12:05:03 pH5: you 'eject/insert' it on each suspend/resume? Jan 15 12:05:43 <_law_> hrw|work, i have written a suspend/resume scripte some time ago... Jan 15 12:06:34 _law_: I added it some time ago Jan 15 12:06:46 <_law_> hrw|work, and it doesnt work? Jan 15 12:07:54 _law_: cant tell - my card does not work at all in Zaurus machines Jan 15 12:09:09 hrw|work: I don't use suspend/resume :) Jan 15 12:10:57 bluetooth is just a piss poor technology with piss poor support :-) Jan 15 12:12:20 <_law_> but if i dont have bt in my Z its useless for me... Jan 15 12:13:06 * _law_ only needs his Z as mobile device for inet, mail, remotework.... Jan 15 12:13:29 _law_: I didnt say it was useless, just from the ground up its piss poorly implemented :-) Jan 15 12:14:54 _law_: what if you try to enter the pin at /etc/bluetooth/passkeys/default and connect from your phone? Jan 15 12:18:26 <_law_> pH5, same error as ever call_passeky_agent(): no agent available Jan 15 12:20:09 <_law_> pH5, there is a pass-key example, perhaps i should try to build this one? Jan 15 12:20:24 <_law_> tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/bluez-utils-3.8-r1/bluez-utils-3.8/hcid Jan 15 12:21:31 _law_: yes, try that. Jan 15 12:37:23 _law_: I have no passkey agent running ('passkey "BlueZ"'; in hcid.conf), and if I try to connect from my laptop I can connect with the default passkey. Jan 15 12:37:32 There is nothing about a missing passkey agent in my logs... Jan 15 12:39:05 koen: cdump.pl is only 32 lines long, just add it to files/ directory Jan 15 12:39:14 <_law_> pH5, could you please post you hcid.conf somewhere Jan 15 12:39:39 XorA: If I said I was too lazy to do that, would you believe it? Jan 15 12:39:40 <_law_> pH5, you connect from you notebook to your Z? Jan 15 12:40:09 koen: if I add it, will you add recipe :-) Jan 15 12:40:33 let me add the recipe so you can fix it :) Jan 15 12:41:42 _law_: from the notebook (debian) to my htc magician (angstrom). The hcid.conf is unchanged: http://en.pastebin.ca/317271 Jan 15 12:42:32 <_law_> pH5, protocol? obex? Jan 15 12:44:27 _law_: no, I'm not that far yet. only L2CAP echo requests. Jan 15 12:49:06 XorA: recipe added Jan 15 12:49:29 koen: just waiting for deps to build Jan 15 12:51:17 <_law_> pH5, doest hcitool scan find you htc? Jan 15 12:52:45 <_law_> l2ping also works in both directions Jan 15 12:53:00 <_law_> hcitool scan doesnt find my Z Jan 15 12:53:28 _law_: bluez 3.x is not discoverable by default. use hcitool hci0 piscan to enable ISCAN for some minutes Jan 15 13:03:06 WTF is up with subversio and esound :-( Jan 15 13:04:31 <_law_> pH5, ok now i can find my device :-) Jan 15 13:04:58 <_law_> but pairing with my mobile phone doesnt work.... i test something again... Jan 15 13:07:52 XorA: different version of bitbake need a different SRC_URI Jan 15 13:08:15 XorA: the one I added is correct for 1.7.x, the last commit fixed it for 1.6.x, but broke 1.7.x Jan 15 13:12:20 <_law_> another question, is it normal if the screen begins do blink, if i get less accu-power? Jan 15 13:56:40 koen: I dont understand how my checkin doesnt work for bitbake-trunk Jan 15 13:57:01 fetcher rewrite Jan 15 13:57:58 koen: yeah, but I made it into the simple case Jan 15 13:59:56 * XorA cheats and calls bitbake-1.6.2 by path Jan 15 14:29:29 koen: any news on your scotland trip? Jan 15 14:30:12 XorA: "july" and "edin + glasgow" Jan 15 14:31:21 koen: I suspect pack for wet wet wet (not the band) as last el nino year it rained and rained and rained Jan 15 14:31:58 I live 18 years in the wettest spot of .nl :) Jan 15 14:32:03 but I will be prepared :) Jan 15 14:33:13 koen: watch some Rab C so you can understand the Wegies Jan 15 14:34:00 * koen googles Jan 15 14:34:12 heh Jan 15 14:34:18 http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/r/video_clips/rabcnesbitt_7775310_1.shtml Jan 15 14:34:19 "Did you mean: wedgies" Jan 15 14:34:39 http://www.weegieweb.org.uk/ Jan 15 14:34:58 I just cant type Jan 15 14:35:21 cool, thanks Jan 15 14:35:45 * koen also adds "watching backlog of taggart and rebus" to his todo Jan 15 14:37:40 koen: problem with rebus and taggart is they film in both cities and mix and match scenes to their choosing, takes even us locals time to work out where it was actually filmed Jan 15 14:38:26 heh Jan 15 14:38:42 like the dutch masterpiece "amsterdamned" Jan 15 14:38:52 koen: not seen that Jan 15 14:38:56 which wasn't filmed in amsterdam Jan 15 14:39:26 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094651/ Jan 15 14:41:30 koen: another on for you http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide/articles/h/highlifethe_7773240.shtml Jan 15 14:42:50 NOTE: package abiword-2.5.0: completed# Jan 15 14:43:02 XorA: yay! Jan 15 14:48:34 koen: pushed Jan 15 15:27:47 my lego brick harddrive has arrived, I shall finally have space on my build system again Jan 15 19:34:41 <_law_> hmm no success with bluetooth paring and my Z :-( Jan 15 19:35:07 <_law_> already got a working pairing with my fedora box Jan 15 19:35:25 <_law_> i have used the same settings but the dont work on my Z Jan 15 19:36:11 <_law_> now i?ll try it on my ubuntu notebook (with the nokia cf card).... Jan 15 19:37:12 _law_: what is going wrong? can you use hcidump -X -V to monitor? Jan 15 19:38:33 <_law_> pH5: mom i?ll install hcidump Jan 15 19:39:26 <_law_> first problem it that my phone cant see the realname of my device (its knows as unknown) Jan 15 19:39:49 <_law_> hcitool scan on my feodra box shows the right name.... Jan 15 19:49:05 <_law_> ok i have do build hcidump first.... Jan 15 21:42:25 bluetooth work incl. 3g :-) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 16 02:59:57 2007