**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Jan 28 02:59:58 2007
Jan 28 14:41:34 <quants> I need some OE pointers?
Jan 28 14:41:47 <quants> | ERROR: "gcc" looks like gcc 4.x
Jan 28 14:41:47 <quants> | QEMU is known to have problems when compiled with gcc 4.x
Jan 28 14:41:47 <quants> | It is recommended that you use gcc 3.x to build QEMU
Jan 28 14:41:47 <quants> | To use this compiler anyway, configure with --disable-gcc-check
Jan 28 14:41:47 <quants> | FATAL: oe_runconf failed
Jan 28 14:41:50 <quants> NOTE: Task failed: /opt/OE/build/tmp/work/x86_64-linux/qemu-native-0.8.2+cvs20060723-r1/temp/log.do_configure.2576
Jan 28 14:41:53 <quants> NOTE: package qemu-native-0.8.2+cvs20060723-r1: task do_configure: failed
Jan 28 14:41:55 <quants> ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting
Jan 28 14:41:58 <quants> NOTE: package qemu-native-0.8.2+cvs20060723: failed
Jan 28 14:42:56 <hrw> 28 16:14 < quants> | ERROR: "gcc" looks like gcc 4.x
Jan 28 14:42:56 <hrw> 28 16:14 < quants> | QEMU is known to have problems when compiled with gcc 4.x
Jan 28 14:42:56 <hrw> 28 16:14 < quants> | It is recommended that you use gcc 3.x to build QEMU
Jan 28 14:43:01 <hrw> this is not enough?
Jan 28 14:43:15 <hrw> apt-get install gcc-3.4;bitbake -crebuild qemu-native
Jan 28 14:43:18 <quants> how can I disable that check?
Jan 28 14:43:37 <quants> hrw: opensuse
Jan 28 14:43:50 <hrw> you CANT disable it
Jan 28 14:44:03 <hrw> we REQ gcc 3.x for it
Jan 28 14:44:13 <quants> this is crap! it's gcc3 bound?
Jan 28 14:46:19 <hrw> its qemu crap
Jan 28 14:46:26 <hrw> complain to qemu authors
Jan 28 14:47:42 <quants> I was gona try out a new build env, but it seems it's not mature enough for use yet
Jan 28 14:50:13 <hrw> JEZZ..
Jan 28 14:50:33 <hrw> to build locale information for ARM devices OE use qemu
Jan 28 14:50:48 <hrw> to build qemu gcc 3.x is needed in host environment
Jan 28 14:50:51 <quants> hrw: yes I'm pissed, I wanted to see about how hard it would be to add apps
Jan 28 14:51:20 <hrw> during build of qemu we check does host system has gcc32 gcc-3.3 gcc-3.4 in PATH and use it if available
Jan 28 14:51:32 <hrw> all you need is install gcc 3.x
Jan 28 14:52:31 <alvise> hrw: hi. There is something to read powerpoint files ?
Jan 28 14:52:34 <quants> hrw: there is no gcc3
Jan 28 14:53:52 <quants> mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/
Jan 28 14:54:26 <hrw> quants: then build it?
Jan 28 14:55:01 <hrw> alvise: in OE? no idea
Jan 28 14:55:17 <hrw> quants: btw - which distro/machine you use to test?
Jan 28 14:55:19 <quants> hrw: I might as well install debian, and start over w/ OE
Jan 28 14:55:38 * mickey|dinner recommends Mandriva
Jan 28 14:55:48 <hrw> mickey|dinner: go back to your dinner ;D
Jan 28 14:55:59 <quants> host=opensuse/em64t
Jan 28 14:56:08 <hrw> debian/amd64 here
Jan 28 14:56:20 <quants> target=angstrom/spitz
Jan 28 14:56:43 <hrw> ok.
Jan 28 14:56:49 <hrw> I'll check one thing
Jan 28 14:57:37 <hrw> quants: add ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "0" to local.conf
Jan 28 14:57:47 <hrw> quants: this will not build qemu
Jan 28 14:57:54 <quants> k
Jan 28 14:58:15 <hrw> hi [g2] 
Jan 28 14:58:25 <hrw> [g2]: did you had time?
Jan 28 14:58:56 <[g2]> hi hrw. unfortunately no. :( 
Jan 28 14:59:20 <[g2]> I've been busy some the ixp4xx networking issues and kernel porting
Jan 28 14:59:33 <hrw> ok, just wanted to ask
Jan 28 15:00:00 <quants> "If your build breaks on
Jan 28 15:00:01 <quants> # qemu-native consider disabling ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION (note that
Jan 28 15:00:01 <quants> # this breaks i18n on devices with less than 128MB RAM) or installing
Jan 28 15:00:01 <quants> # a working third-party qemu (e.g. provided by your distribution) and
Jan 28 15:00:01 <quants> # adding qemu-native to ASSUME_PROVIDED. Caveat emptor, since third-party
Jan 28 15:00:03 <quants> # qemus lack patches needed to work with various OE targets.k"
Jan 28 15:02:00 <quants> hmm maybe I could rebuild 3rdparty qemu, and add the patches for OE targets
Jan 28 15:02:47 <hrw> if qemu will work at all on your 64bit host
Jan 28 15:03:18 <quants> growing pains...
Jan 28 15:03:42 <hrw> ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "0" disable qemu 
Jan 28 15:03:54 <quants> ah
Jan 28 15:05:08 <quants> hrw: this is rough, thank you for all the help
Jan 28 15:05:34 <hrw> np
Jan 28 15:05:43 <hrw> I like to help sometimes
Jan 28 15:08:27 <quants> hrw: how hard do you think it would be to add maemo to angstrom?
Jan 28 15:09:43 <hrw> quants: someone need to look at IT2005 which is in OE and upgrade everything to newer
Jan 28 15:09:48 <hrw> doable in few days
Jan 28 15:10:41 <quants> what is it?
Jan 28 15:11:09 <hrw> IT2005 was name of first nokia770 OS version iirc
Jan 28 15:11:21 <quants> sweet
Jan 28 15:11:31 <quants> so it is there
Jan 28 15:11:45 <hrw> nonfetchable
Jan 28 15:12:06 <hrw> on my todo list I have 'removal of maemo from OE'
Jan 28 15:12:43 <quants> hrw: so I should not bother? b/c you're gonna kill it soon?
Jan 28 15:13:53 <hrw> no..
Jan 28 15:14:08 <hrw> it is 'as no one want to update it to working version'
Jan 28 15:14:20 * quants been with a fever for a while, gets confused easy
Jan 28 15:14:43 <quants> hrw: I want to give it a try
Jan 28 15:14:57 <hrw> thx
Jan 28 15:15:47 <quants> first I want to get a proper build env set up, next build anstrom, then see how hard it would be to get a full-scene VNC client
Jan 28 15:16:10 <hrw> ;)
Jan 28 15:16:14 <quants> last and hardest get maemo running
Jan 28 15:16:48 <quants> if it is there already it should make it a lot easier
Jan 28 15:17:39 <quants> hrw: I have a vision of screen sharing, open communications, a lean GUI
Jan 28 15:33:02 <quants> will oe build as a user?
Jan 28 15:34:06 <quants> I have a debian shell
Jan 28 15:34:12 <hrw> is builds as user
Jan 28 15:34:16 <lardman> hi chaps
Jan 28 15:34:21 <quants> wonderful
Jan 28 15:34:36 <hrw> quants: we recommends to not use OE with root privileges
Jan 28 15:34:38 <hrw> lardman: hi
Jan 28 15:34:48 <quants> hrw: good plan
Jan 28 15:34:49 <hrw> quants: building software as root is insane
Jan 28 15:35:17 <quants> I won't have access to /opt
Jan 28 15:35:47 <hrw> what for?
Jan 28 15:36:36 <lardman> quants: Change permissions on the subdir of /opt if you need to use things there
Jan 28 15:36:54 <lardman> though that's probably poor form
Jan 28 15:37:33 <quants> lardman: I'm gonna build out of my ~ there
Jan 28 17:46:41 <lardman> Any pointers on getting ethernet over usb working with an Angstrom image?
Jan 28 17:46:51 <lardman> I've modprobed g_ether on the Zaurus
Jan 28 17:46:56 <lardman> hi koen
Jan 28 17:47:41 <koen|gprs> hey lardman 
Jan 28 17:48:06 <lardman> koen|gprs: Without adding -mfloat-abi=softfp (as well as -mfpu=vfp), the CCS toolchain doesn't produce hard float code
Jan 28 17:48:16 <lardman> koen|gprs: fyi
Jan 28 17:48:43 <koen|gprs> ah, that's good to know
Jan 28 17:50:22 <lardman> koen|gprs: Should modprobing usbnet on the PC-side allow my Zaurus to connect over usb?
Jan 28 17:50:46 <lardman> koen|gprs: I've done modprobe g_ether on the Zaurus, and usb0 is up
Jan 28 17:51:04 <koen|gprs> usbnet and iirc the machine specific driver
Jan 28 17:51:13 <koen|gprs> it differs for various kernel configs
Jan 28 17:51:17 * lardman can't remember how he set it up the last time he updated his PC
Jan 28 17:51:22 <koen|gprs> s/configs/versions/
Jan 28 17:51:37 * koen|gprs always puts in a wifi card
Jan 28 17:51:42 <lardman> like cdc_ethernet?
Jan 28 17:51:54 <lardman> ah, lardman can also do that now
Jan 28 17:52:39 <hrw> pxa27x need extra module
Jan 28 17:52:44 <hrw> pxa25x does not need
Jan 28 17:52:53 <lardman> hrw: Thanks
Jan 28 17:58:01 * lardman forgot he has wpa on
Jan 28 18:01:25 <lardman> I have the following after 'ifup usb0' on the PC: configuration for usb0 not found
Jan 28 18:10:08 <koen|gprs> lardman: btw, I have an n800 now, so I can test vfp stuff
Jan 28 18:10:16 <koen|gprs> I still don't have a working scratchbox, though
Jan 28 18:10:44 <lardman> koen|gprs: Me too, and still using old scratchbox
Jan 28 18:11:35 <koen|gprs> Lennert Buytenhek is looking into fix gfortran on arm/eabi
Jan 28 18:11:41 <koen|gprs> so angstrom might have R soon :)
Jan 28 18:11:58 <lardman> That'd be good, still a painful buildsystem :(
Jan 28 18:12:42 <lardman> Hmm, I'm actually going to have to reboot into WinXP so I can ssh into my Z
Jan 28 18:12:51 <lardman> not a good sign ;)
Jan 28 18:12:52 <lardman> night all
Jan 28 18:12:57 <koen|gprs> 'night lardman 
Jan 28 18:25:47 <quants> ls
Jan 28 18:27:45 * lardman is back, and lurking
Jan 28 23:28:55 <quants> lsmonotone  --db=/opt/OE/OE.mtn pull monotone.openembedded.org org.openembedded.dev
Jan 28 23:28:58 <quants> monotone: misuse: database schemas do not match: wanted e372b508bea9b991816d1c74680f7ae10d2a6d94, got 9988f135a16fe7fd593f2f49fd8147bba919e32f. try migrating database
Jan 28 23:29:27 <quants> I'm stuck on debian sarge
Jan 28 23:29:58 <NAbyss> quants: mtn db migrate
Jan 28 23:30:20 <quants> monotone 0.18 (base revision: e8c9e4eb0534a4c6e538935576330de34ec42052)
Jan 28 23:30:30 <NAbyss> Hmm, 0.18 might be a bit too old
Jan 28 23:30:39 <NAbyss> Install mtn from deb testing?
Jan 28 23:31:03 <quants> monotone: misuse: need database name
Jan 28 23:31:29 <quants> NAbyss: our admin will not install anyhting "unstable"
Jan 28 23:32:07 <quants> he likes stable, and I use testing
Jan 28 23:32:36 <quants> seems I'm screwed all teh way around
Jan 28 23:32:51 <NAbyss> quants: Make a local install of mtn in ~?
Jan 28 23:33:07 <NAbyss> Should be able to ./configure --prefix=~ then make/make install
Jan 28 23:33:15 <quants> NAbyss: I'm listening
Jan 28 23:33:38 <quants> hmmm
Jan 28 23:33:50 <NAbyss> quants: Grab yourself the sources from http://www.venge.net/monotone/ and give it a shot
Jan 28 23:36:09 <quants> I'm gonna try and install it along bitbake, and se a path to it too
Jan 28 23:37:05 <NAbyss> Okies, good luck
Jan 28 23:39:09 <quants> thanks
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