**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Feb 10 02:59:57 2007
Feb 10 08:44:55 <Marex> hi
Feb 10 08:45:10 <Marex> j/w do I have to have OE in my filesystem root?
Feb 10 08:45:16 <Marex> or can I move it somewhere else?
Feb 10 08:55:51 <rwhitby> OE *is* the filesystem root, isn't it?
Feb 10 08:56:58 <koen> OE is a buildsystem
Feb 10 08:56:59 <Marex> I meant if I need /OE or it can be anywhere else like /blah/OE
Feb 10 08:57:22 <rwhitby> s/*is*/builds/ ; s/isn't/doesn't/
Feb 10 08:57:26 <rob_w> Marex, anywhere u like
Feb 10 08:57:31 <den-ros> Marex: i hold my OE under .../ftp/e/... in another words - anywhere in file system... and access it under nonroot user
Feb 10 08:57:32 <Marex> thanx
Feb 10 08:58:01 <Marex> btw I use mtn 0.31 and when I point it to database, it yanks about migration
Feb 10 08:58:12 <Marex> googling it right now
Feb 10 08:58:45 <den-ros> Marex: for me it is comfortable usually use most new monotone as possible
Feb 10 08:59:45 <Marex> I guess I need 0.32 ?
Feb 10 09:00:22 <den-ros> Marex: yes - i use 0.32 for now
Feb 10 09:01:59 <Marex> it's not in debian
Feb 10 09:02:03 <Marex> gotta compile ... just a sec
Feb 10 09:03:10 <gremlin[it]> hi all ... 
Feb 10 09:03:11 <rob_w> welcome gremlin[it] 
Feb 10 09:03:37 <gremlin[it]> i have a couple of questions which i didn't find answer in FAQ ... 
Feb 10 09:04:04 <gremlin[it]> 1) there is an angstrom versiond for kernel 2.4 ? 
Feb 10 09:04:11 <den-ros> Marex: you need carefully check that is all OE environment is set correctly before you will start use OE to build what you plan
Feb 10 09:04:35 <Marex> den-ros, there isnt any yet ;)
Feb 10 09:04:45 <gremlin[it]> 2) there is a feed for "oabi" version ? 
Feb 10 09:05:44 <den-ros> Marex: i mean - environment connected with _path to place where your OE files hold_
Feb 10 09:05:45 <koen> gremlin[it]: 1) no, 2) yes
Feb 10 09:05:53 <Marex> den-ros, yeah
Feb 10 09:06:01 <den-ros> Marex: ok :)
Feb 10 09:06:04 <Marex> :)
Feb 10 09:06:06 <Marex> thanx
Feb 10 09:06:19 <gremlin[it]> hi koen ... i'm trying to build angstrom for my h3600 :) 
Feb 10 09:06:24 <Marex> den-ros, I hope it wont burn my notebook :P
Feb 10 09:06:57 <den-ros> Marex: not in anycase :)
Feb 10 09:07:04 <koen> gremlin[it]: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/arm-oabi/
Feb 10 09:07:41 <koen> gremlin[it]: although still empty, since no one offered to upload packages to there
Feb 10 09:08:02 <gremlin[it]> ahhhh is a bluff !!! 
Feb 10 09:08:02 <gremlin[it]> :P 
Feb 10 09:09:46 <den-ros> Marex: you can set environment parameters several ways... for example - i use angstrom.sh script before check environment or set it in .profile
Feb 10 09:09:57 <Marex> den-ros, I'm reading howto now
Feb 10 09:10:10 <Marex> btw I hope it'll run on AMD64 ?
Feb 10 09:10:39 <den-ros> Marex: hmm... i hope yes... why not...
Feb 10 09:10:53 <Marex> there are many things that dont run on that
Feb 10 09:11:10 <Marex> like arm-palmos-gcc (it's gcc2 based)
Feb 10 09:11:23 <Marex> so you cant compile palmos stuff on amd64 without chroot
Feb 10 09:11:32 <den-ros> Marex: anyway do not hurry - best check all twice and read carefully all instruction from OE site
Feb 10 09:12:37 <den-ros> Marex: OE work for me long time already without any critical difficulties
Feb 10 09:12:57 <Marex> ok :)
Feb 10 09:12:59 <den-ros> :)
Feb 10 09:35:48 <Marex> can I build with bitbake 1.7.2 ?
Feb 10 09:42:06 <den-ros> Marex: i check now my svn updated bitbake version now - it is 1.6.3
Feb 10 09:42:22 <Marex> 1.7.2 is on berlios ;)
Feb 10 09:43:22 <den-ros> Marex: did not know :)
Feb 10 10:31:35 <Marex> bb 1.7.2 doesnt work
Feb 10 10:31:38 <Marex> 1.6 does
Feb 10 13:25:02 <Marex-notebook> hi ... I ended up again
Feb 10 13:25:21 <Marex-notebook> NOTE: generating locale es_NI (UTF-8)
Feb 10 13:25:21 <Marex-notebook> qemu: uncaught target signal 11 (Segmentation fault) - exiting
Feb 10 13:25:21 <Marex-notebook> NOTE: Task failed: localedef returned an error (command was PATH="/mnt/gentoo/Angstrom/OE/build/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi:/mnt/gentoo/Angstrom/OE/build/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/bin:/mnt/gentoo/Angstrom/OE/build/tmp/cross/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games:/var/chroot/etch-ia32/scratchbox/compilers/arm-gcc4.1-uclibc20061004/bin/:/mnt/gentoo/Angstrom/OE/bitbake/bin:/opt/mtn/bin" I18NPATH="/usr/share/i18n" qemu
Feb 10 13:25:21 <Marex-notebook> -arm -r 2.6.16 -L /mnt/gentoo/Angstrom/OE/build/tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/glibc-2.5-r4/locale-tree /mnt/gentoo/Angstrom/OE/build/tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/glibc-2.5-r4/locale-tree/bin/localedef --force --old-style --no-archive --prefix=/mnt/gentoo/Angstrom/OE/build/tmp/work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/glibc-2.5-r4/locale-tree --inputfile=/usr/share/i18n/locales/es_NI --charmap=UTF-8 es_NI).
Feb 10 13:25:26 <Marex-notebook> NOTE: package glibc-2.5-r4: task do_package: failed
Feb 10 13:25:28 <Marex-notebook> ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting
Feb 10 13:25:30 <Marex-notebook> NOTE: package glibc-2.5: failed
Feb 10 13:25:32 <Marex-notebook> ERROR: Build of angstrom-bootstrap-image failed
Feb 10 13:25:41 <Marex-notebook> I guess qemu shouldnt segfault :o
Feb 10 16:59:21 <Marex> hmm ... ok ... I spent my whole day to produce one useless image
Feb 10 16:59:27 <Marex> it wont even boot ... great
Feb 10 16:59:44 <Marex> kernel just mounts root and does not continue
Feb 10 18:55:21 <Marex> Configuring locale-base-de-de
Feb 10 18:55:31 <Marex> this is last line I get
Feb 10 18:55:46 <Marex> after that it seems like stuck
Feb 10 18:55:49 <Marex> any ideas?
Feb 10 18:58:30 <psokolovsky__> Marex, last line where?
Feb 10 18:58:39 <Marex> when I boot
Feb 10 18:58:52 <Marex> I disabled the bootsplash
Feb 10 18:58:58 <Marex> Configuring hostap-conf
Feb 10 18:59:01 <Marex> Configuring locale-base-de-de
Feb 10 18:59:04 <Marex> and nothing else
Feb 10 18:59:33 <psokolovsky__> Marex, let me guess that it tries to generate locales on-device and hangs due to OOM (~128mb are known to be required)
Feb 10 18:59:42 <Marex> ah
Feb 10 18:59:48 <Marex> can I blacklist that somehow?
Feb 10 18:59:53 <Marex> *that package
Feb 10 19:00:20 <Marex> I thought it can be that, but I also thought kernel will scream about oom
Feb 10 19:03:02 <Marex> psokolovsky__, can I get rid of generation of locales somehow?
Feb 10 19:03:17 <psokolovsky__> Marex, I guess you could. but you'll need en anyway
Feb 10 19:03:32 <psokolovsky__> Marex, better figure out wazzup with your qemu ;-)
Feb 10 19:03:35 <psokolovsky__> do you have amd64?
Feb 10 19:03:39 <Marex> yeah
Feb 10 19:03:41 <Marex> and gcc4
Feb 10 19:03:52 <Marex> but qemu was compiled with gcc3.4
Feb 10 19:08:35 <psokolovsky__> Marex, qemu known not to work on amd64 ;-(
Feb 10 19:08:45 <psokolovsky__> Marex, try 0.9? ;-)
Feb 10 19:09:21 <Marex> ok, how to make angstrom use that ? :P
Feb 10 19:16:41 <Marex> psokolovsky__, how do I regenerate those locales?
Feb 10 19:16:49 <Marex> now when I have new qemu
Feb 10 19:17:30 <psokolovsky__> Marex, add recipe for it ;-)
Feb 10 19:17:39 <Marex> :O
Feb 10 19:17:42 <Marex> huh?
Feb 10 19:17:45 <psokolovsky__> Marex, you can try to load prebuilt from feeds
Feb 10 19:18:06 <Marex> I wanna try qemu090
Feb 10 19:18:19 <Marex> but I dont want to rebuild everything
Feb 10 19:18:45 <Marex> isnt there any simple way?
Feb 10 19:19:10 <psokolovsky__> Marex, rebuild only what's needed
Feb 10 19:19:20 <Marex> glibc? :)
Feb 10 19:21:14 <psokolovsky__> yup ;-)
Feb 10 19:21:36 <Marex> how can I rebuild glibc without recompiling everything against new one?
Feb 10 19:22:54 <psokolovsky__> Marex, bitabke glibc -c rebuild
Feb 10 19:22:58 <psokolovsky__> bitbake
Feb 10 19:23:04 <Marex> 8-S
Feb 10 19:23:59 <Marex> this is sick :o
Feb 10 19:24:07 <Marex> btw wont it break everything?
Feb 10 19:24:47 <psokolovsky__> Marex, why would it?
Feb 10 19:25:25 <psokolovsky__> Marex, but you better start with ensuring that qemu0.9 works on amd64
Feb 10 19:25:47 <Marex> psokolovsky__, cuz of linking?
Feb 10 19:25:53 <Marex> psokolovsky__, hmm ... I thing it does ... we'll see
Feb 10 19:25:54 <Marex> ;)
Feb 10 19:26:52 <psokolovsky__> Marex, which linking? the glibs shlib stays the same, just locales will be built
Feb 10 19:27:34 <Marex> ok
Feb 10 19:46:19 <Marex> psokolovsky__, so even 0.9.0 doesnt help
Feb 10 19:46:41 <psokolovsky__> that sux
Feb 10 19:46:48 <Marex> yeah
Feb 10 19:46:50 <psokolovsky__> use 32bit mode ;-)
Feb 10 19:46:55 <Marex> just a sec
Feb 10 19:57:02 <Marex> psokolovsky__, gotta update mu chroot a bit :p
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