**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Feb 17 02:59:57 2007
Feb 17 04:40:53 <phire> hello
Feb 17 04:41:27 <phire> got this error while compiling angstrom, /usr/bin/gitfm: fatal error: `chdir' failed: permission denied.
Feb 17 04:41:28 <phire> NOTE: Task failed: Fetch failed: Git: export PATH=/home/phire/palmLinux/OE/build/tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi:/home/phire/palmLinux/OE/build/tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin:/home/phire/palmLinux/OE/build/tmp/cross/bin:/home/phire/palmLinux/OE/bitbake-1.6.2/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games; git pull git://anongit.freedesktop.org/xorg/proto/ca
Feb 17 04:41:28 <phire> librateproto failed
Feb 17 04:42:35 <NAbyss_> phire: Have you previously done the fetch under a different user? Might be worth checking that your acct has permissions
Feb 17 04:42:43 <NAbyss_> Or just do a blanket sudo chown myuser
Feb 17 04:42:45 <phire> no
Feb 17 04:55:31 <phire> nope, didn't work
Feb 17 07:52:21 <phire> I'm still having problems with xcalibrateext-0.0+git20060814
Feb 17 07:54:55 <koen> phire: please follow the GettingStarted doc on the OE site before reporting 'bugs'
Feb 17 07:55:16 <koen> phire: you don't have git installed, and you expect git to work?
Feb 17 08:00:10 <phire> git should be installed
Feb 17 08:00:55 <phire> git is installed
Feb 17 08:01:53 <koen> no it isn't
Feb 17 08:02:42 <phire> phire@Zuse:~/palmLinux/OE/build$ sudo apt-get install git
Feb 17 08:02:42 <phire> Password:
Feb 17 08:02:42 <phire> Reading package lists... Done
Feb 17 08:02:42 <phire> Building dependency tree       
Feb 17 08:02:42 <phire> Reading state information... Done
Feb 17 08:02:42 <phire> git is already the newest version.
Feb 17 08:02:58 <koen> that isn't git
Feb 17 08:03:03 <koen> that's gitfm
Feb 17 08:03:07 <koen> you want git-core
Feb 17 08:03:18 <koen> like it says in the instructions
Feb 17 08:03:53 <phire> git-core is also installed, should I remove git?
Feb 17 08:12:42 <phire> thanks koen
Feb 17 08:27:43 <_law_> axim dies on this (udev -initscript) mount -n -o bind /dev /etc/udev
Feb 17 08:27:53 <_law_> -o bind ? no -t ?
Feb 17 08:29:17 <koen> which udev version?
Feb 17 08:31:16 <_law_> koen angstrom one 0.92
Feb 17 08:31:36 <koen> the -bind is correct
Feb 17 08:31:44 <koen> since it is already mounted on /dev
Feb 17 08:31:59 <_law_> is -o bind
Feb 17 08:32:07 <_law_> not -bind or is it the same ?
Feb 17 08:32:31 <koen> I meant -o bind, sorry
Feb 17 08:32:56 <NAbyss_> i thought it was mount --bind /foo /bar?
Feb 17 08:33:18 <_law_> mount -n -o bind /dev /etc/udev
Feb 17 08:34:20 <_law_> there i get wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev
Feb 17 08:36:54 <_law_> so it look like it cant mount my initramfs or?
Feb 17 08:40:47 <_law_> no if it cant mount i i cant run the initscript...
Feb 17 08:40:49 <_law_> hmm
Feb 17 08:41:08 <psokolovsky_> Hi!
Feb 17 08:41:18 <psokolovsky_> _law_, are you able to ssh in?
Feb 17 08:42:06 <_law_> psokolovsky_: no :-( currently i try to fix udev problem
Feb 17 08:42:13 <_law_> mount -n -o bind /dev /etc/udev
Feb 17 08:42:21 <_law_> kill my udev initscript
Feb 17 08:42:56 <psokolovsky_> _law_, isn't it clearly that fixes it with hands tied is harder? ;-)
Feb 17 08:43:20 <psokolovsky_> _law_, anyway, it's too small prob for so much time. tell me how I can help
Feb 17 08:43:59 <_law_> psokolovsky_: btw. can i update to 2.6.20 now?
Feb 17 08:44:50 <_law_> psokolovsky_: i cant find where i can add /dev/random /dev/urandom to the default /dev
Feb 17 08:45:02 <psokolovsky_> _law_, I applied latest patch from Pierre, and all compiled. so yes, you should ;-)
Feb 17 08:45:08 <NAbyss_> psokolovsky_: /dev/.static
Feb 17 08:45:21 <_law_> cpio into it, changing cpio image back kill the image. kernel panic on boot
Feb 17 08:45:40 <NAbyss_> er, _law_ 
Feb 17 08:45:44 <_law_> psokolovsky_: ok thanks
Feb 17 08:45:45 <NAbyss_> dammit, not enough caffine
Feb 17 08:45:56 <_law_> NAbyss_: and what .bb file?
Feb 17 08:46:09 <NAbyss_> _law_: Not sure
Feb 17 08:48:51 <psokolovsky_> _law_, files/device_table* is first place to look
Feb 17 08:49:45 <psokolovsky_> image.bbclass, IMAGE_DEVICE_TABLES var
Feb 17 08:49:58 <_law_> psokolovsky_: ok thanks i?ll take a look
Feb 17 08:50:14 <_law_> psokolovsky_: have to go now for a few minutes...
Feb 17 08:50:17 <_law_> bbl
Feb 17 08:53:53 <koen> psokolovsky_: should random and urandom get added by udev?
Feb 17 08:54:04 <koen> psokolovsky_: which implies they need kernel support?
Feb 17 08:54:57 <psokolovsky_> koen, (u)random actually always compiled id (no CONFIG_* for them). As pH5 pointed, they likely should be added to device_table-minimal
Feb 17 08:55:39 <koen> then why do I have /dev/(u)random on all my devices?
Feb 17 08:56:43 <psokolovsky_> koen, udev does create them. but _law_'s problem is that somehow udevd doesn't start/mount for him properly. So, to be able to dropbear in, he'd need static urandom
Feb 17 08:57:02 <psokolovsky_> koen, and we can anticipate such cases and add them to device_table
Feb 17 08:57:02 <NAbyss_> psokolovsky_: mknod should do the job..
Feb 17 08:57:55 <psokolovsky_> NAbyss_, OE manages static dev entries by build-up above it (declarative table)
Feb 17 08:58:08 <NAbyss_> ah
Feb 17 09:08:31 <gremlin[it]> hi all 
Feb 17 09:08:38 <koen> hey gremlin[it] 
Feb 17 09:08:43 <gremlin[it]> i try to build angstrom-gpe-image
Feb 17 09:08:55 <gremlin[it]> but the resulting image is about 18Mbyte 
Feb 17 09:09:11 <gremlin[it]> h3600 have only 16Mbyte of flash ... 
Feb 17 09:09:40 <gremlin[it]> i'm looking why ... and i notice there is bluetooth installed :( ... but it's useless :( 
Feb 17 09:11:08 <psokolovsky_> gremlin[it], which packages? bug in task-base
Feb 17 09:11:18 <psokolovsky_> MACHINE_FEATURES = "kernel26 touchscreen apm alsa irda usbgadget  screen"
Feb 17 09:11:28 <psokolovsky_> and we need @base_less()
Feb 17 09:12:19 <gremlin[it]> about all : blueprobe bluez-utils gpe-bluetooth libbluetooth2 
Feb 17 09:16:06 <psokolovsky_> gremlin[it], need to do bitbake -v/-D and see where it comes from ;-I
Feb 17 09:16:52 <gremlin[it]> i'll do ... but if i remember right gpe-session need gpe-bluetooth this is the beginnig ;( 
Feb 17 09:17:07 <psokolovsky_> well, angstrom-gpe-task-base is correct
Feb 17 09:17:12 <psokolovsky_> (deps on)
Feb 17 09:17:44 <gremlin[it]> and gpe-session work well also without bluetooth 
Feb 17 09:17:48 <psokolovsky_> gremlin[it], yeah ;-(
Feb 17 09:17:56 <psokolovsky_> gremlin[it], so, it must be fixed
Feb 17 09:19:32 <gremlin[it]> find --> NOTE: dependencies for gpe-session-scripts are: ... gpe-bluetooth ...
Feb 17 09:21:31 <gremlin[it]> gpe-session-scripts need also come small package such as xmodmap xdpyinfo that carry some big libraries ... but i don't know if are really usefull 
Feb 17 09:26:02 <psokolovsky_> gremlin[it], will do patch in a momemnt
Feb 17 09:28:11 <psokolovsky_> gremlin[it], try this: http://paste.uni.cc/13205
Feb 17 09:33:36 <gremlin[it]> thanks psokolovsky_  
Feb 17 09:34:01 <psokolovsky_> gremlin[it], works, or going to try?
Feb 17 09:35:31 <gremlin[it]> going ... 
Feb 17 12:38:06 <goxboxlive> koen: I should have added --no-flip to /etc/matchbox/session . It is aplied with the gpe image but not with openmoko. Is that something you can do for me?
Feb 17 13:03:40 <CoreDump|home> morning
Feb 17 13:09:46 <koen> goxboxlive: maybe later, I want to keep the openmoko stuff in OE close to the openmoko stuff in svn.openmoko.org
Feb 17 13:28:49 <goxboxlive> ok i handle it localy so far.
Feb 17 13:45:15 <gremlin[it]> question, which files i have to check & modify to change the installed packages in the angstrom-gpe-image ? 
Feb 17 15:02:38 <_law_> koen is it correct  that i have to change device_table to add /dev/random and /dev/urandom?
Feb 17 15:02:50 <koen> _law_: you'd have to ask psokolovsky_ 
Feb 17 15:15:30 <Groucho_> Hey there :)
Feb 17 15:17:18 <Arhuaco> Hi :)
Feb 17 15:17:25 * Groucho_ wonders whether somebody tried to build an akita image latey or tried the 2.6.20 test images...
Feb 17 15:18:27 <Groucho_> Just because suspend seems to be broken, actually. Or am I the only one ?
Feb 17 15:19:02 <koen> it's reported to work on c7x0 and c3xxx
Feb 17 15:19:15 <Groucho_> Hi koen.
Feb 17 15:19:47 <koen> Hey mister Fels
Feb 17 15:19:59 <Groucho_> Unfortunately it clears the display with a cursor staying in the left upper corner. Did work with 2.6.18
Feb 17 15:20:46 <koen> could you file a bug for that?
Feb 17 15:21:15 * Groucho_ was smart enough trying to set the PREFERED_VERSION to a 2.6.18 kernel. Unfortunately it stops booting after loading the kernel *yawn*
Feb 17 15:21:34 <Groucho_> koen: Sure, just wanted to know whether this is a known thingy.
Feb 17 15:25:37 <Arhuaco> Hi there. I'm trying the Angstrom for a new machine. I'm adding the line FEED_ARCH_ecbat91 = "armv4t" to angstrom-2007.1.conf.. Is it ok?
Feb 17 15:26:14 * Arhuaco runs : bitbake -n  angstrom-bootstrap-image
Feb 17 15:32:02 <Groucho_> Interesting, except the 2.6.20, all images built with the current dev branch are stopping to boot after loading the kernel. This is the 10th image I have been building. What is wrong here ?
Feb 17 15:51:34 <Groucho_> OK, bug filed: #1882
Feb 17 15:52:41 <XorA> wierd I got 2.6.20 on spitz and works fine
Feb 17 15:53:32 <Groucho_> Well, I have been trying all sorts of things and built a handful of images.
Feb 17 15:54:07 <Groucho_> Same results. I even cant go back to a different kernel because angstrom does not boot then
Feb 17 15:55:14 <XorA> Groucho_: youd be better flashing a 2.6.18 kernel image and using kexec to test 2.6.20, that way a powercycle always gets a working system
Feb 17 15:55:22 <XorA> Groucho_: good way to test new kernels that
Feb 17 15:56:23 <Groucho_> I can't flash 2.6.18. Each image I have been building stops right after loading the kernel without further notice.
Feb 17 17:43:35 * Groucho_ now builds an OZ image with 2.6.20 as reference
Feb 17 18:12:54 <_law_> psokolovsky_:  JEAH i got ssh working :-)
Feb 17 18:13:15 <psokolovsky_> _law_, CONGRATS!!
Feb 17 18:13:32 <psokolovsky_> _law_, by static urandom, or solving udevd issues?
Feb 17 18:13:46 <_law_> psokolovsky_: static urandom
Feb 17 18:14:01 <_law_> but now i?ll take a look at the udev problem
Feb 17 18:14:12 <_law_> uploading new test image before
Feb 17 18:17:17 <Arhuaco> It's about to finish compilation. The generation of the locales takes a LOT of time.
Feb 17 18:17:51 <Arhuaco> While I'm developing, I'd like to avoid the compilation of the locales :)
Feb 17 18:18:19 <psokolovsky_> _law_, please submit yourt static urandom patches to bugs.openembedded.org
Feb 17 18:18:40 <_law_> psokolovsky_: shouldnt it be better if i fix udev?
Feb 17 18:19:59 <psokolovsky_> _law_, you had problem, you found a way to help with it diagnostics. Please share your solution with other folks who might fall in this situation.
Feb 17 18:20:14 <_law_> psokolovsky_: ok
Feb 17 19:36:59 <Arhuaco> Angstrom test-20070217 ecbat91 ttyS0
Feb 17 19:37:01 <Arhuaco> root login
Feb 17 19:37:02 <Arhuaco> !!!!!
Feb 17 19:37:09 <Arhuaco> I deserve my lunch :)
Feb 17 19:37:13 <Arhuaco> Thanks a lot.
Feb 17 19:37:21 <Arhuaco> I wasted a lot of time trying to create a custom distro.
Feb 17 19:37:25 <Arhuaco> A lot of time.
Feb 17 19:39:10 * Arhuaco has lunch
Feb 17 21:25:35 <_law_> hmm on my Zaurus mount -n -o bind /dev /etc/udev works ...
Feb 17 21:27:50 <_law_> i think its the -o bind option could it be that this requires some special kernel modules?
Feb 17 21:28:49 <koen> I guess so
Feb 17 21:29:47 <_law_> koen do you know what kernel module?
Feb 17 21:29:56 <koen> sorry, no
**** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Feb 18 02:59:57 2007