**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 30 02:59:56 2007
Mar 30 08:07:17 <Laibsch> Can I altboot an angstrom image when openzaurus is in the flash?  spitz and collie.
Mar 30 08:13:35 <koen> dunno
Mar 30 08:13:38 <koen> never used altboot
Mar 30 08:13:53 <koen> at least for the spitz you need a proper kernel
Mar 30 08:16:26 <XorA> morning
Mar 30 08:16:38 <hrw> morning
Mar 30 08:17:02 <XorA> Laibsch: yes
Mar 30 08:17:23 <XorA> Laibsch: but you would have to make OZ kernel upto EABI capable
Mar 30 08:17:40 <XorA> Laibsch: and OZ alsa audio wouldnt work
Mar 30 10:58:58 * XorA gets rapidly very sick of bluetooth
Mar 30 11:08:42 <XorA> ahah, I figured it out, getty was started on ttyS0 which is my PCMCIA serial port
Mar 30 11:31:04 <alban_42> can anybody give ne a qew mins help with angstrom gpe ??
Mar 30 11:33:56 <alban_42> i biult and 26th mar installed angstrom console it booted up & worked ok & then connected to the net and installed gpe base
Mar 30 11:34:50 <alban_42> but it fails on start x ive installed the xserver packages i think
Mar 30 11:35:43 <XorA> ipklg install angstrom-x11-base-depends
Mar 30 11:36:13 <alban_42> yes  i am trying to build the x11 image but it will take another 11 hours plus to build 
Mar 30 11:36:22 <alban_42> Thanks XorA
Mar 30 11:38:38 <XorA> alban_42: and maybe angstrom-gpe-task-*
Mar 30 11:38:45 <XorA> alban_42: youll see them in the feeds
Mar 30 11:39:59 <koen> I'd wait ~10 minutes with installing stuff from the net
Mar 30 11:40:17 <XorA> koen: fixing stuff?
Mar 30 11:40:17 * koen just uploaded a kdrive with working tslib
Mar 30 11:41:00 <alban_42> i think that I installed the angstrom-gpe-task-* 
Mar 30 11:41:17 <alban_42> i missed the angstrom-x11-base-depends
Mar 30 11:42:39 <alban_42> fyi the billentonen 10base t network card (8390.o) works ok  but it complaines in the Kernel about a non shared interupt ...
Mar 30 11:43:22 <XorA> alban_42: all pcmcia cards do
Mar 30 11:43:51 * XorA has totally disabled pxa serial on his machine now
Mar 30 15:31:55 <koen> why do users never seem to grasp the term of 'unstable'?
Mar 30 15:33:06 <XorA> heh heh
Mar 30 15:33:17 * XorA does a sneaky siderun around angstrom to get firefox working
Mar 30 15:34:40 <meister> mmh segmentation fault when pivoting filesystem :/
Mar 30 15:36:19 <pH5> wheehee, openmoko-dialer installed onto an out-of-the-box magician angstrom image works -
Mar 30 15:36:30 <pH5> - at least if I could press the off-screen dial button
Mar 30 15:37:24 <XorA> pH5: cool
Mar 30 15:37:39 <koen> there
Mar 30 15:37:45 <koen> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/README.txt
Mar 30 15:39:58 <XorA> koen: cool
Mar 30 15:40:19 <ade|desk> t'arrr bless , you think lusers will read it ?
Mar 30 15:40:25 <koen> the complainer violated rule 4
Mar 30 15:41:07 <ade|desk> can we have a logan's run experience for him , pleeeeease ?
Mar 30 15:41:26 <meister> i was a real newbie in embedded system 1 month ago, i searched lots of docs in order to install linux on my device ;)
Mar 30 15:41:32 <XorA> you can chroot into an OZ image to run firefox on angstrom :-)
Mar 30 15:41:59 <koen> XorA: you forgot the "and then chroot into debian" step
Mar 30 15:42:29 <XorA> koen: no steenkeeiiiing debian around here :-)
Mar 30 15:43:00 <koen> debian/armel is angstrom an angstrom derivate :)
Mar 30 15:43:05 <koen> ehm
Mar 30 15:43:14 <koen> s/angstrom an/an/
Mar 30 15:43:40 <XorA> koen: which I pretty much proved yesterday doesnt actually work :-)
Mar 30 15:45:12 * koen updates i686 packages
Mar 30 15:45:16 * XorA thinks with some LD_LIBRARY_PATH magic the chroot stage could be avoided
Mar 30 15:47:32 * Marex waves at mighty koen 
Mar 30 15:47:33 <Marex> :b
Mar 30 15:48:34 * XorA continues to hope that one day a mozilla developer gets and arm machine
Mar 30 15:49:20 <Marex> XorA, mozilla is still broken?
Mar 30 15:49:46 <Marex> XorA, I tried to compile it with a lot of manual help but got stuck on some weird assembly code
Mar 30 15:50:19 <XorA> Marex: try the latest package in OE, I think I fixed all the wierdness, but I got lost trying to debug a crash in gtk+
Mar 30 15:50:58 <Marex> hmm ... updating my heavily modified OE tree will be hell again
Mar 30 15:50:59 <Marex> :b
Mar 30 15:51:24 <XorA> Marex: www.openembeded.org/repo/
Mar 30 15:51:53 <Marex> 403 forbidden :b
Mar 30 15:52:13 <XorA> http://www.openembedded.org/filebrowser/org.openembedded.dev
Mar 30 15:52:15 <Marex> anyway ... I want to compile it myself and put it into my big image ;)
Mar 30 15:52:33 <Marex> oh ... nice :)
Mar 30 15:52:35 <Marex> thanx XorA 
Mar 30 15:53:52 <XorA> Marex: if you make firefox 2.X run people will start offering you their firstborns :-)
Mar 30 15:54:35 <Marex> XorA, I have only 32 megs of ram :D
Mar 30 15:55:00 <XorA> anyway I am off home
Mar 30 15:55:01 <XorA> bya
Mar 30 15:55:31 <Marex> bye
Mar 30 16:04:54 <Zero_Chaos> anyone be a pal and fix ettercap (or remove it) so I can build angstrom-x11-image
Mar 30 16:15:52 <koen> build fine over here
Mar 30 16:16:23 * koen hints at rule #5
Mar 30 16:16:39 <Zero_Chaos> bitbake 1.8.1
Mar 30 16:16:40 <Zero_Chaos> ERROR: Architecture did not match (40 to 0) on /work/armv5te-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/ettercap-0.6.b-r0/install/ettercap/usr/sbin/ettercap
Mar 30 16:16:49 <Zero_Chaos> koen: where can I find the rules?
Mar 30 16:16:56 <koen> on the website
Mar 30 16:17:08 <Zero_Chaos> angstrom rules?
Mar 30 16:17:56 <Zero_Chaos> okay, fair enough
Mar 30 16:18:53 <ade|desk> right cya folks , i'm off to NZ for a few weeks
Mar 30 16:19:39 <Zero_Chaos> !oebug 2069
Mar 30 16:19:40 <cdbot2> * * Bug 2069, Status: NEW, Created: 2007-03-30 09:25
Mar 30 16:19:41 <cdbot2> * * r.farina(AT)adelphia.net: ettercap fails to build.
Mar 30 16:19:42 <cdbot2> * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2069
Mar 30 16:24:44 <Zero_Chaos> koen: any idea on my little bug there, for instance, when you say it works for you, are you building for x86 on x86?
Mar 30 16:27:00 <koen> x86 -> ppc603e
Mar 30 16:30:11 <Zero_Chaos> hmm... odd.
Mar 30 16:32:04 <Zero_Chaos> I get a nice x86 executable, sweet
Mar 30 16:38:47 <hrw> cu
Mar 30 16:41:21 <koen> Zero_Chaos: configure is probably tripping over linux-gnueabi
Mar 30 16:53:00 <Zero_Chaos> koen: can you checkout 2069 and see if I gave enough information for someone to fix it?  It is beyond me to fix this problem.
Mar 30 16:53:46 <koen> it should have enough info
Mar 30 16:55:10 <Zero_Chaos> koen: okay thanks.  Now hopefully someone finds the time.
Mar 30 18:10:16 <goxboxlive> koen: I hadsome problems to build angstrom-x11-image because of conflicts between maychbox-panel and matchbox-panel2. Now angstrom-x11-image builds, but openmoko-image has suddenly starting to fail building because of the conflict. It hasnt happend before.
Mar 30 18:10:53 <goxboxlive> seems like you moved the problem from x11 to moko
Mar 30 18:24:17 * koen mumbles something about openmoko being too fragile for words
Mar 30 18:25:44 <pH5> #define WINDOW_DIALER_BUTTON_SIZE_Y 100
Mar 30 18:25:51 <pH5> ~lart hard-coded interface sizes
Mar 30 18:25:58 <koen> yeah
Mar 30 18:26:21 <koen> I did expect more from openmoko and "Doing The Right Thing(TM)" for guis
Mar 30 18:26:30 <koen> but they accept patches :)
Mar 30 18:28:54 <pH5> problem with patches is you have to write them first
Mar 30 18:30:25 <koen> really?
Mar 30 18:30:48 <koen> I thought the patch fairy left them under your pillow
Mar 30 18:32:23 * pH5 wasn't visited by the patch fairy for a long time :(
Mar 30 20:27:16 <XorA|gone> anyone managing to use WEP with 2.6.20?
Mar 30 20:29:28 <hrw|gone> XorA|gone: works for me
Mar 30 20:34:29 <XorA|gone> hrw|gone: damn
Mar 30 20:34:56 <hrw|gone> XorA|gone: how it breaks?
Mar 30 20:34:59 <hrw|gone> dmesg
Mar 30 20:36:21 <XorA|gone> gah everything going slow to annoy me
Mar 30 20:37:07 <XorA|gone> <7>prism2_hw_init: initialized in 30 ms
Mar 30 20:37:07 <XorA|gone> <6>wifi0: NIC: id=0x801d v1.0.0
Mar 30 20:37:07 <XorA|gone> <6>wifi0: PRI: id=0x15 v1.1.2
Mar 30 20:37:07 <XorA|gone> <6>wifi0: STA: id=0x1f v1.8.4
Mar 30 20:37:07 <XorA|gone> <7>ieee80211_crypt_wep: could not allocate crypto API arc4
Mar 30 20:37:08 <XorA|gone> <4>wlan0: could not initialize WEP: load module hostap_crypt_wep.o
Mar 30 20:37:10 <XorA|gone> <7>prism2: wlan0: operating mode changed 3 -> 2
Mar 30 20:37:12 <XorA|gone> <7>wifi0: LinkStatus=1 (Connected)
Mar 30 20:37:14 <XorA|gone> <7>wifi0: LinkStatus: BSSID=00:18:39:5b:55:2b
Mar 30 20:37:41 <hrw|gone> 30 22:43 < XorA|gone> <7>ieee80211_crypt_wep: could not allocate crypto API arc4
Mar 30 20:37:50 <hrw|gone> install kernel-module-arc4
Mar 30 20:37:52 <XorA|gone> yup, but arc4 is ther
Mar 30 20:38:01 <hrw|gone> moment..
Mar 30 20:38:15 <hrw|gone> c7x0.local is starting
Mar 30 20:38:56 <hrw|gone> ecb loaded?
Mar 30 20:39:48 <XorA|gone> hrw|gone: that'll be it
Mar 30 20:39:51 <XorA|gone> its missing
Mar 30 20:39:57 <XorA|gone> do WTF has happened to my kernel depends
Mar 30 20:40:01 <XorA|gone> s/do/so/
Mar 30 20:40:07 <hrw|gone> nothing. they just suxx
Mar 30 20:40:20 * XorA|gone blames koe
Mar 30 20:40:22 <XorA|gone> n
Mar 30 20:40:32 <hrw|gone> blame kernel
Mar 30 20:40:37 <hrw|gone> too
Mar 30 20:41:05 <hrw|gone> arc4 does not depend on ecb in kernel
Mar 30 20:41:53 <hrw|gone> back to tv
Mar 30 20:42:06 <XorA|gone> cheers
Mar 30 20:42:29 <XorA|gone> I hate terrier case designer
Mar 30 20:49:34 <XorA|gone> Encryption key:526F-6269-6E52-6F62-696E-3636-36
Mar 30 20:49:38 <XorA|gone> yuss, cheers hrw|gone 
Mar 30 21:03:21 <koen> XorA|gone: even better, I think hrw fixed it in task-base
Mar 30 21:03:52 <hrw|gone> I did
Mar 30 21:04:05 <hrw|gone> first in Poky, then added into OE
Mar 30 21:04:19 <XorA|gone> I am running old old image
Mar 30 21:04:50 <XorA|gone> I just keep ipkg upgradew
Mar 30 21:06:34 <XorA|gone> interesting when you rotate mb-panel the menu stays at 480 instead of moving to 640
Mar 30 21:11:20 <XorA|gone> crap my chair just broke throwing me to the ground
Mar 30 21:12:26 <koen> ouch
Mar 30 21:14:46 <XorA|gone> Im having a bad day
Mar 30 21:19:46 <XorA|gone> crap xmonobut doesnt work on new kdrive
Mar 30 21:27:11 <XorA|gone> pH5: any reason why xmonobut should break with X11R7.2 stuff?
Mar 30 21:27:28 <koen> new keysyms?
Mar 30 21:29:02 <XorA|gone> koen: Im am clueless
Mar 30 21:29:21 <koen> join the club
Mar 30 21:29:44 <XorA|gone> damn x, gimme ncurses anyday
Mar 30 21:30:03 <pH5> XorA|gone: no idea. I don't even know how it works. perhaps it uses some extension and that broke?
Mar 30 21:30:26 <XorA|gone> pH5: ok, maybe when I in not so disastrous a mode I can look
Mar 30 21:30:37 <XorA|gone> at moment I sit on a box that is too short to use computer
Mar 30 21:42:02 <CoreDump|home> hi
Mar 30 21:42:52 <koen> hey CoreDump|home 
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