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Apr 13 15:04:35 <daurn> hi all
Apr 13 15:28:09 <daurn> I'd like to try angstrom on my zaurus C3200
Apr 13 15:28:20 <daurn> but I don't know which file i am meant to get...
Apr 13 15:28:24 <daurn> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/spitz/20070401/
Apr 13 15:34:36 <XorA> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/spitz/20070401/Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070402-spitz.rootfs.tar.gz
Apr 13 15:34:47 <XorA> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/spitz/20070401/gnu-tar
Apr 13 15:34:51 <XorA> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/spitz/20070401/updater.sh.spitz
Apr 13 15:34:56 <XorA> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/spitz/20070401/zImage-2.6.20-spitz-20070330105640.bin
Apr 13 15:34:58 <XorA> those ones
Apr 13 15:35:17 <daurn> whats the diff between your first one and http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/spitz/20070401/x11-image-spitz.tar.gz
Apr 13 15:35:57 <XorA> daurn: one is a link to the other, of course ftp shows both as files
Apr 13 15:36:00 <hvontres|poodle> daurn: I think the second one is just a symlink to the first :)
Apr 13 15:36:14 <XorA> s/ftp/http/
Apr 13 15:36:21 <daurn> needlessly complicated :S
Apr 13 15:36:26 * hvontres|poodle needs to type faster
Apr 13 15:37:03 <hvontres|poodle> daurn: I think it's a bitbake bug that koen will look into when he gets a round tuit :)
Apr 13 15:37:45 <koen> nah
Apr 13 15:37:57 <koen> I was told that lots of numbers scare users
Apr 13 15:38:10 <koen> for the release it will be a single tarball
Apr 13 15:38:25 <daurn> so, how copmlete is angstrom?
Apr 13 15:38:27 <koen> or maybe shar to annoy XorA 
Apr 13 15:38:29 <daurn> is it usable?
Apr 13 15:38:30 <XorA> with a graphical installer written by our demo coder mickey_bbl :-D
Apr 13 15:38:41 <XorA> koen: I get annoyed at shar?
Apr 13 15:38:53 <koen> I thought that was you
Apr 13 15:38:58 <XorA> koen: updater.sh being shar would be cool
Apr 13 15:39:13 <daurn> uh, shar?
Apr 13 15:39:15 <koen> I was thinking something like that
Apr 13 15:39:37 <XorA> daurn: think tar but self extracting using only /bin/sh
Apr 13 15:39:38 <koen> I wonder why OZ stuck to that hidious updater.sh without fixing all the bugs
Apr 13 15:40:05 <daurn> anyone use angstrom on their zaurus clamshell?
Apr 13 15:40:42 <XorA> daurn: US
Apr 13 15:40:43 <hrw> koen: no one reported bugs?
Apr 13 15:40:45 <hvontres|poodle> koen: I thought CoreDump and/or hrw did some work on fixing updater.sh
Apr 13 15:41:05 <koen> hrw: you never got a complaint from users about renaming files
Apr 13 15:41:10 <daurn> XorA: i thought you might use it on other equipment and just claim compatability 
Apr 13 15:41:12 <daurn> :P
Apr 13 15:41:13 <koen> hvontres|poodle: 'fixing'
Apr 13 15:41:37 <koen> hvontres|poodle: it kept the hidious naming scheme instead of looking on the card for stuff to flash
Apr 13 15:41:52 <hrw> koen: patches welcome
Apr 13 15:42:06 <koen> they are?
Apr 13 15:42:17 <koen> last time I suggested I got my head chewed off
Apr 13 15:42:21 <hrw> koen: better updater.sh is in bugtracker
Apr 13 15:42:25 <daurn> XorA: is there a initrd?
Apr 13 15:42:34 <XorA> daurn: no
Apr 13 15:42:36 <hvontres|poodle> koen: Just remember that update.sh is full of evil Sharpisms
Apr 13 15:42:49 <koen> hrw: it isn't better, since it still insist on the weird naming
Apr 13 15:43:07 <daurn> than http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/c1000-install-instructions lies!
Apr 13 15:43:08 * XorA quite likes the one cacko guys did
Apr 13 15:43:20 <daurn> ps, what is http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/spitz/20070401/modules-2.6.20-spitz.tgz
Apr 13 15:43:24 <XorA> daurn: you dont have a c1000
Apr 13 15:43:36 <XorA> daurn: kernel modules for debugging
Apr 13 15:43:43 <daurn> XorA: point taken ;)
Apr 13 15:44:07 <koen> XorA: cacko has some menu to select the files?
Apr 13 15:44:20 <daurn> so, what do i rename all the things to
Apr 13 15:44:24 <XorA> koen: only one file which is everything in a tar
Apr 13 15:44:47 <XorA> koen: but menus for formatting and partitioning
Apr 13 15:45:39 <koen> XorA: check how bootldr machines in OE do it
Apr 13 15:45:52 <koen> XorA: OE appends images and kernels to reflash.ctl
Apr 13 15:46:00 <koen> bootldr reads that and presents a menu
Apr 13 15:46:12 <koen> (apart from bootldr being hidious and outdated)
Apr 13 15:46:16 <daurn> ok
Apr 13 15:46:19 <daurn> i guessed the filenames
Apr 13 15:46:22 <daurn> now reflashing
Apr 13 15:46:33 <XorA> daurn: read openzaurus.org for 3200 instructions
Apr 13 15:48:56 <daurn> do a rename "Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070402-spitz.rootfs.tar.gz" to "hdimage1.tar.gz"?
Apr 13 15:49:50 <daurn> i assume yes
Apr 13 15:50:25 * daurn watches, and waits
Apr 13 15:50:47 <XorA> http://wiki.openzaurus.org/Spitz/Install
Apr 13 15:51:12 <daurn> i did that
Apr 13 15:51:13 <daurn> ;)
Apr 13 15:51:21 <daurn> now... it just booted cacko
Apr 13 15:51:29 <daurn> (existing OS)
Apr 13 15:52:03 <daurn> ie. it didn't work!
Apr 13 15:52:24 <XorA> then they werent 100% followed
Apr 13 15:52:30 <XorA> or they are wrong
Apr 13 15:54:00 <daurn> oh
Apr 13 15:54:08 <daurn> i did .tar.gz instead of .tgz
Apr 13 15:54:46 <daurn> wait
Apr 13 15:54:48 <daurn> same problem
Apr 13 15:55:15 <XorA> sounds like kernel did not flash, double check its name
Apr 13 15:55:59 <daurn>  Directory of H:\
Apr 13 15:56:00 <daurn> 31/03/2007  09:09 PM         5,741,463 sly.wv
Apr 13 15:56:00 <daurn> 01/04/2007  04:50 PM    <DIR>          wavpack
Apr 13 15:56:00 <daurn> 14/04/2007  01:33 AM           573,496 gnu-tar
Apr 13 15:56:00 <daurn> 14/04/2007  01:35 AM             5,880 updater.sh
Apr 13 15:56:00 <daurn> 14/04/2007  01:36 AM         1,229,628 zImage.bin
Apr 13 15:56:01 <daurn> 14/04/2007  01:40 AM        19,290,064 hdimage1.tgz
Apr 13 15:56:12 <daurn> i can't see anything wrong this time
Apr 13 16:02:02 <daurn> XorA?
Apr 13 16:02:45 <XorA> daurn: looks fine to me, but I am tired and just about to run out of door
Apr 13 16:04:54 <daurn> when it goes to update
Apr 13 16:05:05 <daurn> it says "SD CARD NOT FOUND"
Apr 13 16:31:31 <daurn> what do you guys think of these?
Apr 13 16:31:32 <daurn> http://conics.net/shp/pda/zaurus-sl-c700/pentopia.html
Apr 13 16:37:12 <daurn> finally got it installed!
Apr 13 16:37:17 <daurn> now... nothing seems to work
Apr 13 16:41:46 <daurn> ok
Apr 13 16:41:51 <daurn> we have a loading screen
Apr 13 16:41:56 <daurn> and we have programs running
Apr 13 16:42:21 <daurn> otherwise nothing works :P
Apr 13 22:24:37 <PceKper> Hi there, from Argentina, I have some questions
Apr 13 22:26:16 <PceKper> Does anyone tested angstrong in ipaq hx4700, and if it is usable in that machine?
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