**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 02 02:59:56 2007 May 02 03:40:32 * ljp looks around May 02 03:41:23 any chance of getting an angrom toolchain released? May 02 03:42:43 make that angstrom May 02 09:40:10 morning May 02 09:40:30 ljp: it will be released May 02 09:41:08 oooh, is that Qt on Angstrom rumblings I here May 02 09:46:10 ah, right I promised to look after qt4(/e) in OE May 02 09:47:45 * XorA loves that avahi announces his dev board everytime it boots May 02 09:47:46 is the X11 used by pdaXrom the same as or similar to X11 used by GPE May 02 09:48:53 xjqian: similar May 02 10:31:52 one is Xfree86, the other is X.org May 02 10:37:29 thanks koen May 02 10:38:13 OT question, but anyone have any pointers to writing a renderer (for prettyprinting equations to be exact) in python? May 02 10:39:04 lardman: system("latex equation.tex") May 02 10:39:51 XorA: I'd thought of that, does mean that I need to install latex though. Doesn't seem clean enough to me (though certainly easier than DIY) May 02 10:40:39 One newbie question. I know how to search within lists.linuxtogo.org. But how do I search within a specific mailing list? May 02 10:42:01 lardman: Ill bet there is a python lib somewhere that formats latex equestions May 02 10:42:48 XorA: Yeah, they aren't latex though, so I'd need another step to make them latex May 02 10:43:18 lardman: there is other equation formats? :-D May 02 10:43:32 openMath is an option (yacas can output these) May 02 10:43:58 otherwise I just wanted a generic equation (as you'd see the output on a command line from something like Octave) May 02 10:44:39 I may do some digging in the xcas code and see if I can work out what they do May 02 10:45:08 * XorA left equations back at Uni May 02 10:45:50 * lardman still needs to use them and thought that making a decent calculator for his N800 might be the way forward May 02 10:46:07 cool May 02 10:46:46 I just want to wrap something else (like giac or yacas) with a decent GUI that has its own keys, scrolling results and prettyprint May 02 10:47:16 * lardman thought it might be a good way to force himself to learn Python May 02 11:55:31 pH5: good morning! May 02 11:57:45 hi koen May 02 12:15:14 yo koen May 02 12:15:43 hey XorA May 02 12:15:45 still no-one at the office May 02 12:15:59 of course not, it is still early May 02 12:16:16 :) May 02 12:16:30 * koen needs to file some expenses May 02 12:17:29 just steal stuff approx equal expenses claim May 02 12:20:49 3 rolls of gaffa tape :) May 02 12:21:51 that a 2U server at least May 02 12:22:02 s/that/thats May 02 12:22:13 heh May 02 12:22:23 the expense was ~€30 May 02 12:22:36 wow, maybe a 4U then May 02 12:22:47 and the only usefull thing at the office is those rolls of tape :) May 02 12:22:57 which office? May 02 12:23:04 find the paper clips May 02 12:23:55 Crofton: http://www.enschedeploeg-ut.nl/ May 02 12:24:18 Heh, I could find plenty of stuff at school that would be useful May 02 12:26:28 heh website is not very good, keep getting the same thing in repeated in frameset May 02 12:26:56 anyway ..... May 02 12:27:05 ?me heads off to find food May 02 12:27:33 * ade|desk heads off to find food , needed when typing ? instead of / May 02 12:27:53 the website is crap May 02 12:28:04 it took a while before I could login using firefox May 02 12:28:42 I had to resort to widders and IE to redeem credit card reward points last night May 02 12:28:47 pissed me of royally May 02 12:29:18 Crofton: that because IE is more secure :-D May 02 12:30:24 one of my stupid credit cards puts up a page on meta refresh that just says "Checking Browser Security" I dont think it actually does anything May 02 12:30:37 heh May 02 12:31:02 I once had a progress bar for an operation we could not monitor prgress May 02 12:31:25 it was to appease the users, of course the operation could hang and the prgress barkept running :) May 02 12:32:22 your process is 100000% finished :-) May 02 12:42:59 for some weird reason I seem to be getting more intelligent :-( May 02 12:44:43 Given the uni is letting people pretty much do whatever finishing the semester May 02 12:44:50 yesterdays observation May 02 12:45:04 the parking near the engineering building, pretty full May 02 12:45:16 near business buildlings, pretty empty May 02 13:14:46 XorA: one dep on procps less May 02 13:15:38 koen: cool May 02 13:17:05 crapin wireless bollox May 02 13:33:18 * XorA steadilly gets more fedup with stupid kernel subsystems May 02 13:49:25 XorA: which are the stupid ones ? May 02 13:51:56 ade|desk: i2c May 02 13:52:25 hehe silly but rather useful May 02 13:52:48 ade|desk: its not i2c thats stupid, its how the kernel does it, via hidden variables and multiple callbacks May 02 14:22:58 * XorA laughs at the article on google hell May 02 14:24:25 url? May 02 14:24:55 http://www.forbes.com/home/technology/2007/04/29/sanar-google-skyfacet-tech-cx_ag_0430googhell.html May 02 14:25:22 its a I paid this guy a few thousand to cheat my page on google, now google has placed it on an index of bad sites :-) May 02 15:17:21 angstrom-x11-image is still the right one for angstrom, is it? The name got changed a few times, I think May 02 15:19:35 hrw: ping May 02 15:19:50 pong May 02 15:20:16 Assuming the sysfs interface to the power management stuff hasn't changed, then yes it should work May 02 15:20:36 Though I thought bl had been overtaken by other things such as zaurusd? May 02 15:20:38 bl? May 02 15:20:43 yep May 02 15:21:40 "bl on/off" is now simple shell script which check /sys/class/backlight/*/brightness May 02 15:22:11 does it also allow you to set a level: bl 255 May 02 15:22:14 ? May 02 15:22:35 what is 255? May 02 15:22:47 The thing bl does, but that Angstrom doesn't need, is to support all the 2.4.x kernel methods of backlight control on different platforms May 02 15:22:54 one of my machines has 40 steps, other has 7, other has 3950 levels May 02 15:22:58 255->any random number between 0 and 255 May 02 15:23:10 yoou mean 0->100%? May 02 15:23:25 hrw: bl finds out the number of levels then splits them into 255 and passes on the correct value May 02 15:23:32 yes May 02 15:23:50 why 255 instead of 100%? May 02 15:24:13 can't remember, something to do with the way other things interacted with it - ipaq-sleep iirc May 02 15:24:33 mythtorical reasons :-) May 02 15:24:47 in any case, as only 2.6.x kernels are used, a shell script is just as good May 02 15:24:51 we need to get one way for it May 02 15:25:19 percentages are good, and floating point values too; then you can go as fine grained as you wish May 02 15:26:21 though 100 levels is probably enough for most people, I can't imagine anyone needs 3950 :) May 02 15:26:36 neo1973 has ~3950 levels May 02 15:26:55 I suppose that's good for effects, screen dimming, etc. May 02 15:27:12 reminds me, must update my Angstrom on Neo build May 02 15:32:04 my recent angstrom build is deeply fscked May 02 15:32:19 it can build stuff but deps will be wrong May 02 15:57:18 time to offski May 02 17:35:27 mmp, FYI I have tried a few of the more recent h5000 images and have never gotten X to work :( May 02 17:48:24 I know this has been asked before but I cannot find the solution for it now; I removed "qemu-native" from ASSUME-PROVIDED and now it complains about gcc4. gcc3 is also installed. I read something about sdl binaries and dev packages but wonder if that is relevant here and what packages it would be on ubuntu. Any help? May 02 17:51:46 mccarthy: err, with CVS HEAD? May 02 17:52:24 I did not requested raising kernel versions for h5000 in OE May 02 17:52:45 so if those were just images built automatically, there is probably older kernel... May 02 17:52:52 mmp I gave up building any of it myself. I am relying solely on the unstable images posted on angstrom's site (so I have no idea what the kernel version is, actually) May 02 17:53:17 mccarthy: if you believe me, I can give you tarball with kernel I compiled... May 02 17:53:38 mmp, you do not build the angstrom images? May 02 17:54:06 I use angstrom image, but build kernel myself; uploading whole image to PDA each time would be just waste of time... May 02 17:54:19 I just unpack my tarball to / :) May 02 17:54:34 (I believe you, but have difficulty getting anything other than full images onto the h5000 since my wifi doesn't work and lrzsz is not installed by default) May 02 17:55:12 hmm, and USB networking? May 02 17:55:40 I haven't tried it recently (since upgrading to fiesty), but never had good luck with it before May 02 17:55:51 mccarthy: do you have few seconds to try? :) May 02 17:56:11 kernel image is at handhelds.org/~mmp/h5000/kernel.tar.gz May 02 17:56:18 mmp, well, since I do not have a 2.6 image on there right now it would take much more than a few seconds ;) May 02 17:56:27 ahh, ok:) May 02 17:56:37 mmp, I will grab it and give it a whirl when I get 2.6 back on there May 02 17:56:59 mmp, what do I need to change to get the correct kernel modules loaded? May 02 17:57:24 mccarthy: the kernel itself unpacks into /boot/zImage20 May 02 17:57:58 so you either need to change boot params so that file will get booted, or change /boot/zImage to point at zImage20 May 02 17:58:11 or change /boot/params to point to zImage20 :) May 02 17:58:44 are the lcd driver thingies built into the kernel or as modules? May 02 17:58:50 yes May 02 17:58:59 (yes, which?) May 02 17:59:09 however, you will need to manually load samcop_sdi, snd-soc-h5000 and mmc_block May 02 17:59:19 mccarthy: err, I did not read whole question May 02 17:59:26 LCD is compiled statically May 02 17:59:29 lcd driver May 02 17:59:31 ok May 02 17:59:49 you should see nice OE bootscreen:) May 02 17:59:55 did you (personally) modify the /etc/modules (or wherever) in order to automagically load thos modules? May 02 18:00:04 no, I was too lazy:) May 02 18:00:17 I load them manually... May 02 18:00:40 mmp, are you using the latest angstrom image? (I think it is 401) May 02 18:00:43 that tarball contains just my devel kernel compiled using my defconfig, no guarrantees about that:) May 02 18:01:06 no, I guess it's some veery old image, I'm just doing ipkg update time to time, so in these terms, it should be pretty recent. May 02 18:01:12 ipkg upgrade too:) May 02 18:02:33 mccarthy: I will try to fix as much as possible after I'll to some school things and then I'll ask oe developers to bump kernel version for h5000... May 02 18:02:44 mmp, so you are not the maintainer of the h5000 machine config for OE? May 02 18:03:10 (I think I recall you said that you have wifi working for yours, right?) May 02 18:03:49 mccarthy: ad the machine thingy - no, I'm not; do machine configs have their maintainers in OE? :) May 02 18:04:17 and ad the wifi thing - yes, it is more or less working; I noticed few issues with suspend and DHCP... May 02 18:04:30 but as a proof of concept it works. May 02 18:04:40 but needs more advanced power management. May 02 18:05:07 (i.e. anything better than no power management:) May 02 18:05:52 mccarthy: but with wifi not active, suspend&resume work thanks to bd2 more or less correctly, just few issues with flash are there. May 02 18:06:18 I don't know if machine configs have maintainers, but they should. You are the only one I ever see even interested in working on the h5000 ... May 02 18:06:21 (and the keys behave interesting way, so you can't suspend using the power button:) May 02 18:07:03 mccarthy: there is also Anton Vorontsov (bd2) which has done lots of things I could not even dream of to do:) May 02 18:07:15 at least when concerning the time I have:( May 02 18:07:23 I figured that bd2 must be a person ;) May 02 18:07:46 :) May 02 18:07:59 what do I need to do to get wifi working? will your kernel work or do I need something else as well? May 02 18:08:14 just the proper firmware but into /lib/firmware May 02 18:08:18 s/but/put/ May 02 18:08:39 and then just modproble at76_usb May 02 18:08:43 modprobe:) May 02 18:08:56 and ohci-hcd May 02 18:08:59 I almost forgot. May 02 18:09:11 ideally, first ohci-hcd, then at76_usb May 02 18:09:19 the firmware is this thing you sent me before: May 02 18:09:22 atmel_at76c503-rfmd.bin May 02 18:09:24 ? May 02 18:09:28 yes, that should be the one May 02 18:10:07 I hope:) May 02 18:10:08 ok May 02 18:10:23 loading the new image now (will let you know how it goes if you are still around) May 02 18:10:50 but remember, the fixes for wifi are more proof of concept and need much more work. May 02 18:11:42 but at least now there are two of you working on it ;) (you and bd2) May 02 18:11:51 :) May 02 18:12:00 (I would not know where to begin, but I do hack on gpe-calendar on occassion) May 02 18:12:03 well, bd2 now much more than I do... May 02 18:12:31 where does bd2 hang out, here? and is he the one building angstrom images or someone else? (koen?) May 02 18:12:58 mccarthy: bd2 is usually at #handhelds.org, angstrom images are built automagically:) May 02 18:13:10 ah May 02 18:13:24 but there should be many people who can alter oe files:) May 02 18:13:26 I have not been to #hh in a long time (since they booted the ge guys out) May 02 18:57:30 guys - do we have package with firmware for that machine May 02 18:57:31 ? May 02 18:59:38 hrw, are you talking about the wifi firmware for h5000? I think the answer is no. I jus tgot mine "by hand" from mmp. I do not know where he got his. May 02 19:00:20 exctracted from WinCE drivers? May 02 19:00:41 hrw: I'm not sure, it's from at76c503a.berlios.de May 02 19:00:45 but it is quite possible May 02 19:00:47 I think that if it is needed for device to work fully then we should ship it May 02 19:01:52 yes, that would be quite nice, but there are several versions of that firmware and I'm not sure which one should/should not be used May 02 19:02:09 the one I sent to mccarthy worked for me... May 02 19:02:20 but generally, I don't know May 02 19:02:26 I neved had h5000 but afaik there are two versions which have to match something May 02 19:03:24 hrw: there is firmware, which is flashed into at76c503 chip and some dynamically loaded firmware May 02 19:03:32 don't know what relationship is between them... May 02 19:03:49 neither do I May 02 19:16:00 mmp care to help me with usbnet? May 02 19:16:48 hrw: I guess I'll try to find out somethingmore about the versions :) May 02 19:16:52 mccarthy: use g_ether :) May 02 19:17:40 mmp, ? May 02 19:18:04 mccarthy: are you running 2.6 kernel right now? May 02 19:18:10 mmp, yes May 02 19:18:14 if so, just modprobe g_ether May 02 19:18:32 then ifup usb0 May 02 19:18:53 and if you have cdc-subset driver compiled on your desktop, you should have now working usb0 interface May 02 19:18:56 damn May 02 19:18:59 this images suck May 02 19:19:07 http://blog.haerwu.biz/2007/03/22/hotpluging-usbnet/ May 02 19:19:12 this will help on deskto May 02 19:19:12 no g_ether (no wifi support, no lrzsz) May 02 19:19:13 p May 02 19:19:28 mccarthy: maybe g_Ether is statically compiled May 02 19:19:31 ifconfig -a May 02 19:19:50 ok May 02 19:19:54 looks like it is static May 02 19:20:02 I don't believe that h5000 defconfig doesn't contain g_ether :) May 02 19:20:13 so just ifup usb0 in that case:) May 02 19:20:46 I did ifup usb0 May 02 19:20:51 and configure desktop:) May 02 19:20:54 it now exists and claims to have an ip May 02 19:20:58 yes May 02 19:21:10 but I think I need to do something on the desktop (since I cannot ping anything) May 02 19:21:13 now do ifconfig -a on desktop May 02 19:21:18 yes, you need:) May 02 19:21:38 ok what am I looking for? May 02 19:21:42 first, you should see there usb0 interface too; if not, try modprobe cdc-subset May 02 19:21:54 no I have usb0 there too May 02 19:22:21 are you connected to some 192.168.0.0/24 network? May 02 19:22:39 (does any of your interfaces have IP adress like 192.168.0.x ? May 02 19:22:40 ) May 02 19:22:58 mine are all 192.168.1.x May 02 19:23:08 nope May 02 19:23:10 wrong May 02 19:23:57 they are 192.168.0.x May 02 19:24:11 hmm, nevermind, easy cure for that:) May 02 19:24:22 just edit /etc/network/interfaces on your PDA May 02 19:24:33 and set the IP address to e.g. 192.168.1.202 May 02 19:24:46 no May 02 19:24:47 and generally, substitute 192.168.0 for 192.168.1 :) May 02 19:24:52 you were right the first time May 02 19:24:58 I have 0's May 02 19:25:10 should I be setting the gateway to my host ip? May 02 19:25:22 instead of 192.168.0.200? May 02 19:25:38 mccarthy: yes, but if you have zeroes on your desktop, you can't use the same subnet on another interface easily May 02 19:26:19 oh I see May 02 19:27:29 ok. now ipaq is 192.168.1.202 May 02 19:28:12 ok:) May 02 19:28:34 now configure /etc/network/interfaces on your desktop similar way as hrw does:) May 02 19:28:40 do I do "ifup usb0" on the desktop ? (that complains with some goofy thing) May 02 19:28:49 oh May 02 19:28:52 on the link he sent? May 02 19:28:55 yes May 02 19:29:10 just substitute 192.168.0 with 192.168.1 :) May 02 19:29:32 mccarthy: you connect ipaq and desktop will auto UP usb0 May 02 19:30:36 yes I figure that, thanks mmp May 02 19:30:46 mccarthy: :) sorry May 02 19:31:12 mmp, no need to be sorry. I am a bit slow sometimes. It was a good guess that I would continue to be so ;) May 02 19:31:45 mccarthy: np; I just sometimes don't stop when I start giving hints to someone... May 02 19:32:32 hmm May 02 19:32:36 not working though May 02 19:32:44 desktop is 192.168.1.200 May 02 19:33:05 (on the usb0, that is. it is 192.168.0.22 for the eth1) May 02 19:33:23 the gateway for the usb0 on the ipaq is 192.168.1.200 May 02 19:33:59 hmm.. May 02 19:34:07 can you ping PC from the PDA? May 02 19:34:09 I get some weird error when I try "sudo ifup usb0" on the desktop May 02 19:34:23 RTNETLINK answers: File exists May 02 19:34:23 run-parts: /etc/network/if-up.d/avahi-autoipd exited with return code 2 May 02 19:34:33 you mean "ping 192.168.1.200"? May 02 19:34:41 it might be also already enabled; don't forget what hrw said:) May 02 19:34:44 yes May 02 19:34:53 100% packet loss May 02 19:35:02 just do 'ifconfig' on desktop and if usb0 will be listed there, interface is already enabled May 02 19:35:18 ugly trick - try to plug out and in the USB connector:) May 02 19:36:57 mmp, ok. now I can see the desktop (do not know why though since I tried the unplug trick like 4 times) May 02 19:37:13 :) May 02 19:38:19 cu May 02 19:38:24 hrw|gone: bye:) May 02 19:39:07 mccarthy: ipkg update; ipkg install lrzsz :) May 02 19:39:14 should this setup be allowing dns lookups? May 02 19:39:23 edit /etc/resolv.conf properly May 02 19:39:29 oh May 02 19:39:38 ok. so it is not like dhcp May 02 19:39:39 line like 'nameserver ip.of.your.nameserver' May 02 19:39:49 no, this is "fully static" configuration:) May 02 19:39:58 you would need to have DHCP server running on your desktop May 02 19:41:39 remember what I said about stupid questions? May 02 19:41:47 :) May 02 19:41:53 how do I untar the file from the /tmp directory into the / directory? May 02 19:42:13 cd /; tar vxzf /tmp/kernel.tar.gz May 02 19:42:26 doh! May 02 19:42:29 what an idiot ;) May 02 19:42:38 I think tar should understand also -C switch, but I'm not sure whether busybox's tar does May 02 19:42:54 mccarthy: not at all May 02 19:43:42 yes. I meant something like -C, but your way was much simpler May 02 19:46:27 mmp, so far no OE boot screen ;( May 02 19:46:37 Error opening /dev/fb0: No such device ?! May 02 19:46:40 mccarthy: did you modify something to boot the new kernel? May 02 19:46:52 mmp doh! May 02 19:46:55 :) May 02 19:47:01 forgot that you are too polite to over-write my old one May 02 19:47:49 mccarthy: more cautious; I don't believe the code I write, and I believe I would easily rewrite old kernel, which would lead to uploading whole jffs image May 02 19:48:22 ahh pretty May 02 19:48:33 does it work? :) May 02 19:48:48 so far May 02 19:48:57 I still get some weird errors on boot May 02 19:49:16 Cowardly refusing to erase blocks on filesystem with no valid JFFS2 nodes May 02 19:49:25 I'm getting that one too:) May 02 19:49:57 hmm May 02 19:50:08 it also hung after ts calibration May 02 19:50:22 hmm? May 02 19:50:32 this same image works for me, though... May 02 19:50:38 is serial console still accessible? May 02 19:51:02 this usually works for me correctly. May 02 19:51:24 no serial was why I thought it was hung for sure May 02 19:51:39 trying to reset was even weirder (it kept vibrating!) May 02 19:51:49 hmm May 02 19:51:57 remove battery and insert it again... May 02 19:51:58 now my pretty splash screen is gone May 02 19:52:09 that would be known issue:) May 02 19:53:08 pulling the battery out and in again should help May 02 19:54:07 mccarthy: do you have h5550 ? May 02 19:54:26 mmp, yes May 02 19:54:33 pulling out battery helped May 02 19:55:57 nothing is as good for PDA's hardware as hard reset:) May 02 19:57:36 ok May 02 19:57:43 hoping to have gpe running on this reboot May 02 19:58:08 * mmp too May 02 19:58:26 hmm May 02 19:58:31 it wants to recalibrate May 02 19:58:35 do I dare ...? May 02 19:58:57 try it once again, it should not freeze I hope May 02 19:59:13 whew May 02 19:59:20 nice May 02 19:59:44 (BTW, I added those modules to /etc/modutils and ran update-modules ... perhaps that helped?) May 02 19:59:53 hmm, no idea... May 02 20:01:15 now to try to get wifi May 02 20:01:48 modprobe ohci-hcd; modprobe at76_usb, assuming you have firmware at the right place May 02 20:02:33 I forgot I need to put g_ether in modutils too May 02 20:03:24 SD controller driver has few known issues too.. May 02 20:03:47 you will probably need to unmount and mount SD card after inserting it... May 02 20:22:15 <_law_> is anyone with a htc universal or hx4700 here? May 02 20:22:31 <_law_> who knows how the brf6150 bluetooth stuff works May 02 20:23:49 mccarthy: if something would work incorrectly, just say... May 02 20:27:07 mmp, I cannot get it to boot right now actually. I tried to get wifi going and it hung. Now it will not boot. .. :( May 02 20:27:17 I think I give up for today. Thanks for your help May 02 20:29:19 mccarthy: I'm not sure whether I generated the kernel.tar.gz from the most recent source... May 02 20:29:27 I sometimes upload kernel image directly... May 02 20:29:57 mccarthy: just in case, I will upload new tarball... May 02 20:30:39 I'm now not sure whether that tarball doesn't contain one bug which might cause random freezes... May 02 20:33:33 mccarthy: uploaded; just for sure, please upload this most recent snapshot... May 02 20:33:42 when you say upload, you mean to your hh account? May 02 20:33:49 yes May 02 20:33:58 handhelds.org/~mmp/h5000/kernel.tar.gz May 02 21:14:13 mmp booted better now May 02 21:14:20 will let you know when I try wifi May 02 21:22:09 mccarthy: ok:) May 02 21:22:37 sorry for giving not-so-correct image; I forgot that I made additional changes after generating tarball May 02 21:37:38 mmp, it seems to be working well now May 02 21:37:48 wifi came up, but I need to get WEP working to actually test it May 02 21:38:01 what package would iwconfig be in? May 02 21:38:25 wireless-tools, or something similar... May 02 21:38:33 tried that one May 02 21:38:40 yes, wireless-tools May 02 21:39:05 /usr/sbin/iwconfig (or just /sbin/iwconfig) doesn't exist? May 02 21:40:23 mmp, correct. no joy May 02 21:40:34 cannot find the wireless-tools ipk either :( May 02 21:40:43 hmm? May 02 21:40:47 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=wireless-tools May 02 21:40:52 it should be in repositories May 02 21:41:28 and in the worst case, you can try directly http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/feed/armv5te/base/wireless-tools_29-pre10-r2_armv5te.ipk May 02 21:41:56 hmm May 02 21:42:07 it looks like my Packages file must have gotten borked May 02 21:42:32 when I ipkg updated it looks like it finds it now (maybe. it is certainly taking a lot longer to tell me to piss off) May 02 21:43:06 mccarthy: yeah, ipkg is a bit slow from this PoV... May 02 21:43:34 it did find it now though May 02 21:44:58 mccarthy: be prepared that DHCP doesn't neccessarily need to work (did not work for me at least) May 02 21:49:17 mmp, did you use a static IP then? May 02 21:49:39 yes May 02 21:49:47 cu May 02 21:50:07 hrw, thanks for the help May 02 21:50:11 np May 02 21:51:15 mccarthy: that doesn't mean you should not try to use DHCP, just be prepared for the fact that it doesn't neccessarily need to work:) May 02 21:51:49 mmp, it didn't May 02 21:52:06 I don't even remember how to do networking by hand ;) May 02 21:52:56 mccarthy: DHCP should be as easy as doing ifup wlan0 when iwconfig shows you are associated May 02 21:54:10 but you said DHCP does not work? May 02 21:54:25 I said it does not work for me. May 02 21:54:35 But I have not played with it much. May 02 21:54:51 maybe it is just issue with my access point... May 02 22:02:37 well I can successfully iwlist so it must be working (mostly) May 02 22:02:44 :) May 02 22:02:51 now I need to remount my (apparently broken) home partition ... May 02 22:02:57 btw, the leds aren't working... May 02 22:03:08 it seems like the power one is May 02 22:25:11 good night:) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 03 02:59:56 2007