**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 08 02:59:57 2007
May 08 07:42:58 <_law_> there is a problem with the current angststrom version... http://rafb.net/p/uT3rV389.html
May 08 07:44:14 <koen> why is that a problem with angstrom?
May 08 07:44:29 <koen> and since when does gpe-phone compile against a gtk from this century?
May 08 07:45:28 <koen> hmm, wait
May 08 07:45:32 * koen stabs local diff
May 08 08:14:02 <_law_> how can i add http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/sources/ do my local.conf?
May 08 08:14:21 <hrw> inherit angstrom-mirrors
May 08 08:15:04 <_law_> hrw, thanks but there is also no gstreamer-0.10.12.tar.bz2 available
May 08 08:15:37 <koen> why do you want to add it to your local.conf?
May 08 08:15:45 <koen> angstrom inherits it by default
May 08 08:16:04 <koen> *alarm bells going off*
May 08 08:16:27 <_law_> koen, ok already found out that it inherits by default
May 08 08:17:04 <koen> it seems the fdo server is sick again
May 08 08:17:13 <_law_> but gstreamer isnt available ;-) i cant reach freedeskop.org
May 08 08:22:55 <koen> mirrored
May 08 08:35:59 <_law_> koen, thanks
May 08 11:07:50 <goxboxlive> y
May 08 12:04:04 <Laibsch> polyonymous_, XorA: What will need to be done to move opie from /opt to /usr?  bug 2254.  I guess that one change to bitbake.conf.  What will need to be done for individual packages?
May 08 12:04:28 * Laibsch forgot to list psokolovsky_
May 08 12:09:15 <XorA> Laibsch: no idea, I dont really talk QT
May 08 12:10:09 <Laibsch> koen?
May 08 12:10:50 <XorA> Laibsch: change bitbake.conf and see what blows up
May 08 12:14:23 <koen> Laibsch: your script is broken
May 08 12:15:18 <XorA> we need a prize for stupidest bug comment ever
May 08 12:15:43 <Laibsch> XorA: your nomination?
May 08 12:16:30 <XorA> Laibsch: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1821#c12
May 08 12:16:43 <koen> Laibsch: your script generated false positives
May 08 12:16:50 <koen> e.g. /etc/ppp/options
May 08 12:17:04 <Laibsch> koen: OK, so that is not a biggie.
May 08 12:17:18 <Laibsch> Automated solutions do that.
May 08 12:17:22 <koen> you'd better grep for 'palmtop' in the recipes
May 08 12:17:29 <XorA> missed a ^ in regexp :-)
May 08 12:17:33 <koen> or 'inherit palmtop'
May 08 12:17:58 <Laibsch> XorA: Unfortunately, the output does not start with the path
May 08 12:18:27 <XorA> \s \/opt\/ :-)
May 08 12:18:41 <XorA> without the bogus space
May 08 12:18:44 <Laibsch> I will just rarhter close the false positives ;-)
May 08 12:19:00 <Laibsch> or let koen do it ;-))
May 08 12:21:57 <koen> aha
May 08 12:22:04 <koen> 'Extrahieren' is what I want
May 08 12:22:24 * koen wonders why windows doesn't have a button for that in the gui
May 08 12:22:50 <XorA> what that when its at home?
May 08 12:23:15 <koen> german for 'extract' or 'unzip'
May 08 12:23:43 <XorA> koen: XP has that button
May 08 12:24:11 <koen> I could only find the menu option
May 08 12:24:15 <koen> bloody german windows
May 08 12:24:23 <XorA> right click on file, extract
May 08 12:24:32 <XorA> in english anyway
May 08 12:24:47 <koen> I was in the compressed folder view
May 08 12:44:54 * XorA is today fedup with software engineering
May 08 14:48:27 <koen> hah
May 08 14:48:37 <koen> "OE founded openzaurus"
May 08 14:49:43 <koen> clueless zaurus users....
May 08 14:50:43 <polyonymous> they don't have to bu cluefull :) They don't have to speak either, though :)
May 08 14:57:45 <hrw> oesf again?
May 08 14:58:12 <koen> the podcast
May 08 14:58:26 <koen> needed to read a big wad of text and wanted some audio distraction
May 08 14:58:40 <koen> pdaX is going "to make the 2.6 kernel stable" as well
May 08 14:59:51 <koen> and they want "eedzj ar double-u, or however you pronounce it" in the next podcast
May 08 15:00:23 <polyonymous> :))
May 08 15:05:19 <XorA> that damn eedzj ar double-u scrwews everything up
May 08 15:07:45 <hrw> argh..
May 08 15:09:02 <hrw> url?
May 08 15:09:12 <koen> http://www.tyrannozaurus.com/?q=tycast
May 08 15:09:17 <koen> number 3
May 08 15:10:23 <hrw> maybe tomorrow
May 08 17:59:45 <Zuse> Hi, is someone interested to help me to solve a kernel panic on a C1000 and Angstrom ;) ?
May 08 18:01:00 <koen> grab a newer kernel
May 08 18:01:39 <koen> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/akita/20070507/zImage-2.6.20-akita-20070507200406.bin
May 08 18:02:38 <Zuse> Hi Koen, got the last one form the unstable feed. Flash seems to be O.K. Booting result in VFS: Cannot open root device "mmcblk0p1" .... 
May 08 18:04:59 <koen> right
May 08 18:05:04 <koen> you need to flash a new kernel
May 08 18:05:11 <koen> sadly we can't do that via ipkg :(
May 08 18:08:32 <Zuse> Koen: I will give your version a try. I used zImage-2.6.20-akita-20070506075054.bin .... give me a sec ...
May 08 18:09:06 <koen> yes, that boots from SD due to a error on my side
May 08 18:11:39 <sts_> Where can I find md5sums for the current test images?  I am having a flash error updating to the new 0507 poodle image.
May 08 18:12:48 <koen> sts_: in the dir you downloaded it from :)
May 08 18:13:04 <Zuse> koen: thats what I thougt when it come to mmcblk01. Thought there was some magic involved. Do I need to download a new image as well as a new updater.sh ? Got my files yesterday 1 hour before you upload the new kernel
May 08 18:13:50 <koen> Zuse: you only need to flash a new kernel
May 08 18:13:57 <sts_> Hangs head in shame...
May 08 18:14:04 <koen> (remove the initrd.bin from the cf card)
May 08 18:14:15 <koen> sts_: I only created it after you asked for it :)
May 08 18:14:22 <hvontres|poodle> sts_: hey, at least you listen to our advice :)
May 08 18:16:10 <Zuse> O:K: flash in progress ;)
May 08 18:19:03 <sts_> I *did* at least search the site and wiki for "md5"
May 08 18:19:40 <Zuse> koen: Thanks, it seems to work, at least it passed the "critical" part 
May 08 18:20:46 <sts_> koen:  Do I need to delete any folders if updating from the current OZ/GPE?
May 08 18:22:24 <koen> sts_: in ${HOME} ?
May 08 18:22:25 <xjqian> koen: could you give me a pointer to which issue is dragging Tosa on 2.6.17 kernel? I've ready it somewhere, probably in hrw's post, but can't find it anymore
May 08 18:22:30 <koen> not that I know off
May 08 18:22:55 <koen> xjqian: the usb controller, the driver hasn't been updated to a newer kernel
May 08 18:23:05 <xjqian> koen: thanks
May 08 18:26:54 <Zuse> just one annoying question. Is there any reason, why wpa support is not included in the image directly ? Some users might only have the chance to access the feeds by wifi and they can't without wifi support "out-of-the-box". Again just a question
May 08 18:27:30 <koen> wifi support has been fixed in newer images
May 08 18:27:51 <Zuse> including wpa_supplicant ?
May 08 18:27:54 <koen> yes
May 08 18:28:54 <Zuse> how new ? :D  got the one from yesterday for akita 
May 08 18:30:07 <sts_> koen:  wherever is necessary to prevent GPE settings from being left over
May 08 18:31:32 <koen> sts_: rm ~/.gpe in that case
May 08 18:31:49 <koen> Zuse: those images aren't uploaded yet
May 08 18:32:02 <koen> but it's only a 'ipkg install task-base-wifi' away
May 08 18:32:27 <Zuse> koen: yes if ou have a working network ;)
May 08 18:32:54 <sts_> koen:  OK, cool.  Hey, has Si gotten R working in Angstrom?
May 08 18:34:13 <Zuse> is there a hotkey for the light settings just fiddle around with it and got a dark screen. I remember this is an old problem already. Forgot how to solve this
May 08 18:35:25 <Zuse> o.k. luckly i hit the "bulb" in the corner by error and try 
May 08 18:39:49 <koen> sts_: not yet, fortran is still broken on arm
May 08 18:42:15 <sts_> OK.  I had it "running" under PocketWorkstation in the old Watapon ROM (no NA support, though).
May 08 18:43:08 <sts_> koen:  I heard a report it was working under OZ 3.5.4 w/GPE but I couldn't get it to work.  Some libraries couldn't be found or wouldn't install.
May 08 18:43:55 <sts_> koen:  THANKS for the help and all your continued efforts.  Happy to continue to be a tester for poodle...
May 08 18:48:53 <hvontres|poodle> sts_: BTW, does your screen get corrupted after a resume?
May 08 19:21:10 <infinito> hi!
May 08 19:21:25 <infinito> has anyone here tried to install angstrom using the Familiar bootloader?
May 08 19:21:36 <infinito> i mean, is it possible?
May 08 19:22:31 <koen> yes it is possible
May 08 19:22:48 <koen> the reflash.ctl files are in the download dir
May 08 19:24:33 <infinito> ummm i've never used the reflash files... just the load root command with a jffs file...
May 08 19:29:55 <infinito> what i need to know is which files i need...
May 08 19:30:16 <infinito> i tried to: load root zImage-2.6.16-hh9-h5000-20070325201947 but that file is not bootable
May 08 19:31:52 <Zuse> Does the usb network interface work under the current image for akita ?
May 08 19:32:40 <koen> Zuse: yes
May 08 19:32:52 <koen> 'modprobe g_ether ; ifup usb0'
May 08 19:35:30 <Furre> Hello, do anyone have a C700 here? :)
May 08 19:35:59 <Zuse> koen: i didn't found any of these commands / scripts on my shell ?! ifconfig, ifup, ifdown, route, modprobe ... is this o.K. ?
May 08 19:36:18 <koen> Zuse: 'sudo -s'
May 08 19:36:21 <koen> ehm
May 08 19:36:24 <koen> 'su -'
May 08 19:36:33 * koen has been using ubuntu today
May 08 19:37:34 <Furre> or do anyone know if Ångström slows down the C700 like Cicko do?
May 08 19:39:22 <koen> Furre: that's not an issue anymore with kernel 2.6
May 08 19:39:44 <Furre> and ångström uses that kernel?
May 08 19:39:53 <Furre> sorry, im kind of new to all of this :/
May 08 19:40:09 <Zuse> koen: hmm.. I did a sudo and I become root, looks like this is not enough  ?!
May 08 19:41:18 <koen>  /sbin and /usr/sbin need to be in PATH
May 08 19:41:22 <koen> 'su -' does that
May 08 19:41:29 <koen> 'sudo -s' just makes you root :)
May 08 19:43:04 <Furre> Also have another quick little question, if I install Ångström on the C700, will any of the application that ran on the default ROM work with Ångström?
May 08 19:44:23 <koen> Furre: they won't
May 08 19:45:45 <Furre> oh, what kind of applications can I use then? just need to know what to search for :)
May 08 19:46:02 <Furre> or do they have to be made especially for ångström to work?
May 08 19:46:36 <koen> you can use all the applications in the feeds
May 08 19:46:39 <infinito> using the bootldr from familiar (bootblaster i think) can i do just a "load root Angstrom-x11-image-test-20070402-h5000.rootfs.jffs2" and then boot ???
May 08 19:46:47 <koen> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/
May 08 19:46:56 <infinito> /sorry if my questions sound stupid...//
May 08 19:47:20 <koen> infinito: yes, that's correct
May 08 19:47:30 <koen> you'd have to ask psokolovsky_ about the h5000 status
May 08 19:48:00 <infinito> koen: ok, i', loading it now, if it works, i will add a page on the wiki
May 08 19:48:26 <infinito> one more little question... the ipks from familiar will work on angstrom?
May 08 19:48:35 <koen> they won't
May 08 19:48:44 <koen> only use the ones in the feeds
May 08 19:48:49 <Furre> koen, thank you, Ill try to see what I can find there :)
May 08 19:51:43 <infinito> so is there any way to port ipks form familiar to angstrom? i'm interested in classpath and sablevm or jamvm
May 08 20:08:35 <koen> infinito: jamvm and classpath are already in the feeds
May 08 20:08:45 <infinito> koen: great!
May 08 20:09:07 <infinito> if the wifi works, im ready to work with angstrom...
May 08 20:09:26 <koen> see http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/
May 08 20:16:34 <hvontres|poodle> koen: time to add http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/ to the topic ?? :)
May 08 20:17:11 <koen> hvontres|poodle: it's linked from the frontpage :)
May 08 20:24:46 <infinito> psokolovsky_: ping
May 08 20:41:42 <summatusmentis> how does bitbake find the correct spot to download things from? http://pastebin.ca/477743 I'm getting errors trying to download poppler
May 08 20:49:32 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, I'd think it's a poppler server problem
May 08 20:50:57 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: except that going to that address manually works fine
May 08 20:51:30 <polyonymous> hmm
May 08 20:51:45 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, then wget setup?
May 08 20:53:10 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: what do you mean? wget http://poppler.freedesktop.org/poppler-0.5.4.tar.gz works fine
May 08 20:53:34 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, not for your wget (that OE uses for downloading)
May 08 20:54:17 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: I don't understand what you're saying
May 08 20:54:54 <polyonymous> do you know what wget is?
May 08 20:54:56 <Furre> Hmm, quick question before I have to leave for bed tonight: Does the Zaurus charge with +5V?
May 08 20:55:06 <koen> and angstrom uses a mirror system, so it looks like your OE setup is broken
May 08 20:55:13 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: yeah, and it's working fine. 
May 08 20:55:15 <koen> Furre: yes 5V, 1A
May 08 20:55:24 <summatusmentis> koen: I just updated right before I started the bake
May 08 20:55:30 <Furre> koen, woaw, neat, got a charger for that already then, thanks!
May 08 20:55:36 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, but you can plainly see it doesn't work fine in your pastebin.
May 08 20:55:56 <Furre> goodnight everyone, all of you have a lovely day :)
May 08 20:56:12 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: I realize that, I'm trying to figure out why, it worked when I ran that manually
May 08 20:56:49 <polyonymous> hmm... well, I think you got to figure it out yourself...
May 08 20:56:57 <hvontres|poodle> summatusmentis: did you re-try fetching yet? maybe your network connection temporatily dropped out
May 08 20:56:57 <koen> see http://www.fooishbar.org/blog/tech/fdo/gabe-2007-05-08-17-27.html
May 08 20:57:29 <polyonymous> good point.
May 08 20:58:13 <summatusmentis> hvontres|poodle: something special? or just restart the build?
May 08 20:58:33 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, just restart
May 08 20:58:59 <summatusmentis> ok, I'll try it in a bit, my system is emerging right now :-/
May 08 20:59:17 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, beryl? :))
May 08 20:59:41 <hvontres|poodle> summatusmentis: hmm, or freedesktop.org is just flakey right now (see koen's link)
May 08 20:59:52 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: don't even get me started :-D my machine is old, and i"m trying to maximize it
May 08 21:00:02 <koen> but angstrom-mirrors.bbclass should provide a fallback
May 08 21:00:06 <polyonymous> summatusmentis, :)
May 08 21:00:13 <summatusmentis> hvontres|poodle, koen: yeah, I guess that's possible
May 08 21:00:31 <summatusmentis> koen: where's it located ?
May 08 21:00:43 <koen> it's enabled by default
May 08 21:03:12 * Furre nick Furre-AFK
May 08 21:03:21 <Furre> defenetly too tired x.x
May 08 21:04:28 <summatusmentis> oh balls, my system is gonna take forever, I'll try it in like an hour or so
May 08 21:05:53 <hvontres|poodle> koen: where would the logs for do_package wind up? in the kernel temp dir, there is no explicit run_do_package or log_do_package files and I am trying to figure out why something is borked during the do_package stage
May 08 21:06:58 <koen> they should be in ${WORKDIR}/temp/
May 08 21:09:22 <hvontres|poodle> koen: hmmmm...it seems the kernel build does not generate them.. http://www.pastebin.ca/477796
May 08 21:09:44 <koen> weird
May 08 21:10:03 <hvontres|poodle> koen: yeah... those are the ones you sent me yesterday... thanks :)
May 08 21:11:25 <hvontres|poodle> koen: I think at the very beginning of do_package the build is looking for something in the kernel tree and is inserting the uname -r for my build host, but for the life of me I can't seem to figure out whare that is coming from
May 08 21:12:53 <XOrA|gone> hmmm after 120days a wrt54g seems to lose the plot
May 08 21:36:42 <infinito> how can i tell argmstrong to dump the boot log to the tty so i can see what's going on?
May 08 21:38:04 <polyonymous> Louis or Neil? :)
May 08 21:38:34 <polyonymous> but I think you're asking for psplash=false kernel command line
May 08 21:38:44 <polyonymous> option
May 08 21:43:35 <infinito> ummm, it says "Uncompressing Linux........................... done, booting the kernel." and then nothing happens...
May 08 21:44:24 <infinito> any idea whats going on here ? http://pastebin.ca/477863
May 08 21:45:40 <polyonymous> hmm.. looks like it doesn't boot the kernel. I don't know anything about your setup, though
May 08 21:47:32 <hrw> noinitrd root=/dev/mtdblock1 init=/linuxrc console=tty0 psplash=false
May 08 21:47:47 <hrw> something like that if you do not have serial cable
May 08 21:47:56 <infinito> well, now using these params set linuxargs="rootfstype=jffs2 root=/dev/mtdblock3 console=ttyS0,115200n8" it seems to boot, but is stalled while loading net drivers...
May 08 21:50:16 <infinito> this is what i get: http://pastebin.ca/477878
May 08 21:53:02 <hrw> cu
May 08 21:55:49 <ath1> hi all. short question: is that touchscreen callibration issue with the zaurii already fixed?
May 08 21:56:25 <polyonymous> ath1, the orientation?
May 08 21:56:38 <ath1> polyonymous: that's what I mean yes
May 08 21:56:50 <polyonymous> ath1, yes, to the best of my knowledge.
May 08 21:56:52 <polyonymous> what's your Z?
May 08 21:57:05 <ath1> sl-c1000 akita
May 08 21:57:29 <ath1> i tried the latest unstable ab
May 08 21:57:32 <polyonymous> I think it's the same as my spitz wrt calibration.
May 08 21:57:36 <polyonymous> And it works for me on spitz.
May 08 21:57:46 <ath1> about a week ago and got this strange orientation problem
May 08 21:58:01 <ath1> ok. i will fetch the latest image then
May 08 22:00:50 <infinito> ok, now the h5450 boots with angstrom, but the display is blank...
May 08 22:07:33 <ath1> polyonymous: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/akita/20070507/ which of these files do i need?
May 08 22:07:46 <ath1> for flashing from sd
May 08 22:07:52 <ath1> except of the installer script
May 08 22:10:22 <infinito> psokolovsky_: can u help me a but with h5000 ??
May 08 22:10:27 <infinito> s/but/bit/
May 09 00:23:45 <summatusmentis> polyonymous: yeah, I guess it was the link koen posted earlier, because it just downloaded poppler fine
**** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed May 09 02:59:57 2007