**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 13 02:59:59 2007 May 13 03:09:41 anybody awake? May 13 15:15:03 hi May 13 15:18:08 I have a problem with an intel wifi cf card. Here's the dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/20653/ The label on the card says it is a wcf2011beww May 13 15:18:21 would be great if somebody could help me with it May 13 15:25:19 steveballmer, go ask Bill May 13 15:26:00 unforunately, I can't help with your problem :) May 13 15:26:26 is it my nick ^^ ? May 13 15:26:48 no, but it is easy to make jokes about the nick :) May 13 15:27:04 I am not very familiar with wireless issues May 13 15:27:15 that's a pitty May 13 15:27:24 thing is I don't really know what chipset it has May 13 15:28:11 well good luck May 13 15:41:01 steveballmer: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=836 May 13 15:41:11 and "carctl ident" May 13 15:41:17 Then google May 13 15:41:23 * Laibsch says l8er May 13 15:41:37 cardctl ident May 13 15:42:21 steveballmer, did you get that? May 13 15:42:34 Laibsch, carctl ident? May 13 15:42:40 no ^^ May 13 15:43:00 the bugzilla reference? May 13 15:43:21 steveballmer: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=836 May 13 15:43:59 Crofton, I don't know what to do there? May 13 15:44:10 read the bug report May 13 15:45:05 does it sound like the problem you are having? May 13 15:45:28 I am going to mow, good luck May 13 15:45:43 have fun thx May 13 15:46:35 Crofton, but what is carctl ident? May 13 15:52:46 ah pccardctl ident i see May 13 15:53:11 PRISM ISL37101P-SSF May 13 15:55:56 is Rolf Leggewie here by chance? May 13 15:56:50 Laibsch == Rolf May 13 15:58:51 according to the bugtracker post he made he has the same card May 13 15:59:39 pitty that he's gone now May 13 16:00:37 http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=836#c32 May 13 16:08:20 Anyone here got a case for their Cxx00? Trying to find one where they ship all over the world and accept paypal, but can only find a really bad one :/ May 13 16:09:26 Furre: yeah, conics.net sells a pdair case(I think it's pdair), it's like a wallet thing, hold on, I'll find it May 13 16:10:28 alright, thanks, is it any good? May 13 16:11:38 Furre: http://conics.net/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=68 May 13 16:11:53 yeah, it's alright, it's leather, so not overly protective, but it's nice May 13 16:12:23 it's got a couple of sd card holders, and I've recently just switched from using my wallet and case to just using the case May 13 16:13:08 hehe, hmm, how is it attached to the Zaurus btw? May 13 16:14:51 there is a plastic thing that attaches around the lip of the keyboard, and a little peg on the bottom that fits in a screw hole. there is also a clip that latches onto the loop connector by the earphone jack May 13 16:15:08 the Z is secure there's no worries about it falling out of the case May 13 16:15:31 alright, and case doesnt make the zaurus all scatched either? :x May 13 16:15:32 expensive for a piece of leather May 13 16:16:13 Furre: no, it wont' scratch the Z, the Z is pretty tough as it is. I haven't dropped my Z, so I don't know about that May 13 16:16:36 okk :), hmm, is it similar to this one?: http://www.siemshop.com/ebay/image/item_pic/pd286pc6.jpg May 13 16:17:05 steveballmer_: yeah, I got mine free when I ordered my Z May 13 16:18:09 Furre: looks to be very similar, except there's not the second flap on the top May 13 16:18:12 http://conics.net/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=124 <- does that mean the zaurus has te same power input as psp? May 13 16:18:21 ah :x May 13 16:18:47 steveballmer_: yes, there have been people using PSP powerbricks to extend the battery life on the Z May 13 16:19:24 Furre: if you go to oesf.org/forums and then go to the Cxx00 general forum, there's a whole thread on cases May 13 16:19:30 I was looking for an ac adapter May 13 16:19:50 have a universal one now which is very huge May 13 16:20:18 summatusmentis, ok, thanks! May 13 16:20:20 steveballmer_: afaik, the power input is the same as the PSP May 13 16:20:50 alright that's good to know. I will return my bomb and get a psp power supply then May 13 16:20:51 Furre: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=23831 May 13 16:22:08 thanks! May 13 16:22:19 piel frama cases are nice too May 13 16:22:27 * summatusmentis leaves May 13 16:23:43 bai :) May 13 16:31:09 Hmm, is the screen of the C700 the same size as for the C1000 and C3200? May 13 16:33:08 yes May 13 16:36:02 okk, good, cause I purchased protectors for the C700 ^^ May 13 16:39:02 wierd, that OE Forums... on IE I get it to look like a normal forum, and in Firefox, every reply is at the bottom in "Posts in this topic", just like a few words on each so I have to click all of them, annoying :/ May 13 16:42:17 * Furre apologizes for beeing a bit annoying, got sister at hospital today so is kinda worried and restless May 13 17:18:08 err, I was told the C1000 had an internal CF slot that could be put memory inside of, but when I read at th OE forums just a few minutes ago, I found this "No, search around, earlier disassembly pictures show the lack of CF slot and supporting chipset on the SL-C1000." May 13 17:18:16 saying there's no chipset for the feature o.o May 13 17:19:13 "The C 1000 has only 1 CF slot. No internal or hidden CF slot. May 13 17:19:13 If you need a second CF slot, by a C 3100/3200. May 13 17:19:55 but then agian, Ive seen pictures where there was a second slot inside, this is kinda comfusing :/ May 13 17:20:33 you were told wrong. There is no internal CF slot on Akita May 13 17:21:04 http://hentges.net/tmp/photos/Akita/PCB/ May 13 17:23:08 "[09:36] the Cxx00 models would be thicker, I'd imagine.. they're of the clamshell design. And, yes, the Cxx00 have two CF slots, one internal, one external. Only the internal is taken by the HDD." May 13 17:23:09 :/ May 13 17:24:43 great, bought a 2nd zaurus based on false facts then x.x, this is getting annoying :/ May 13 17:26:20 he was talking about sl-c3x00 May 13 17:26:48 * koen would just put in a 4GB sd card or so May 13 17:27:41 "[09:27] Furre: Nope.. the 1000's essentially the 3x00 with 128mb of flash, same ram, no hdd" May 13 17:27:53 meh :/ May 13 17:28:16 koen, kinda bought it cause I already have a 4gb microdrive, which I was planning to put inside :/ May 13 17:30:58 but hmm, using a swap-file with an SD card shouldnt be good right? as for microdrive it shouldnt be affected at all by it :x May 13 17:31:59 but hmm, the C1000, does it alteas have USB-host to work? :/, guess I better start asking several times from now on :x May 13 17:42:23 or hmm, if SDIO will be avaible, wouldnt one be able to get one of those very cheap and small SD-wifi cards to work? May 13 17:42:43 yes, USB Host works but no SDIO does not work on any Z May 13 17:42:57 * CoreDump|home does a NAND restore... May 13 17:44:00 awr okk :/, hmm, so, having a USB-Wificard will work? May 13 17:44:10 only with a powered hub May 13 17:44:19 oh? o.o May 13 17:44:24 as long as there are Linux drivers for it May 13 17:44:38 the Z cant deliver the 100mA needed? May 13 17:45:06 it could, but not recommended May 13 17:45:24 oh well, maybe I better skip the microdrive and connect it to my 400gb external drive instead :x May 13 17:45:31 Furre: it's very hard to find a card that only draws 100mA May 13 17:45:37 should be enough space for a swap there :x May 13 17:45:39 most draw 250mA May 13 17:46:08 koen, oh, I thought as long as it didnt need that USB-B connector, there was a limit on not using more than 100mA? or maybe that was just for USB 1.0 :x May 13 17:46:42 that's the idea, but in practice it's different May 13 17:46:56 ah, pity :/ May 13 17:47:11 yeah May 13 17:47:23 even usb memory sticks sometimes draw 160mA May 13 17:47:35 the zaurus does 120mA or something like that May 13 17:47:45 * koen looks at cxxx ownders May 13 17:47:47 well, atleast the external HD is powered seperatly :x May 13 17:47:50 owners* May 13 17:48:15 oh by the way, if one uses a swap there, and then unplugs that drive, will the Z lock up then, or just continue without the use of the swap? May 13 17:48:18 * XorA|lego feels looked at May 13 17:49:24 :x, guess im beeing looked at aswell :/ May 13 17:49:47 hmmm May 13 17:49:53 dilemma May 13 17:50:13 get wet and make cool pictures of lightning or stay inside and watch beverly hills cop May 13 17:52:37 o.o, though decission :x May 13 17:53:14 Hmm, when I recive the c1000, will I have any use for the c700, or should I just sell it? :x May 13 17:53:22 sell it May 13 17:53:36 guess Ill try atleast, not sure if Ill be able to :x May 13 17:57:17 * rwhitby returns from week-long business trip May 13 18:14:31 Furre: just dont tell the buyer about this channel :-) May 13 18:16:31 Laibsch, you there? May 13 18:17:55 * XorA gueses as there are no chairs flying this is not THE Steve Balmer May 13 18:19:42 Developers, developers, developers, developers.... May 13 18:22:18 that's the name of the user i'm logged in with. Should change it lol May 13 18:22:56 you'll be causing a storm on /. Steve Ballmer endorses OE May 13 18:30:17 all that irony :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun May 13 18:43:39 2007 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 13 18:43:59 2007 May 13 19:18:36 steveballmer_: Yes, I am here. May 13 19:18:47 But dcordes seems to be gone. May 13 19:18:56 Kind of impatient ;-) May 13 19:27:42 Laibsch, I read the whole bugtracker thread you gave me and noticed that you have the same chipset in your (a) cf wifi card May 13 19:27:58 did you get it working yet? May 13 19:43:50 Laibsch you there :) ? May 13 19:59:06 steveballmer_, sometimes you have to wait until people get back to the computer May 13 19:59:16 irc can be very fast, or very slow :) May 13 19:59:41 Crofton: how's the lyrtech board doing? May 13 19:59:49 well May 13 20:00:04 I have compiled the serial flasher and the uart app that runs in TCM May 13 20:00:13 steveballmer_: Mine works without a hitch. I had to do some tweaking in OZ, but in angstrom it works OOTB. Read my update on the bug report May 13 20:00:13 I need to try ot on the board May 13 20:00:21 tcm? May 13 20:00:24 the flasher app is in c# and needs mono May 13 20:00:31 tightly coupled memory May 13 20:00:54 memory on the chip itself May 13 20:00:55 !oebug 836 May 13 20:00:56 * * Bug 836, Status: RESOLVED (WONTFIX), Created: 2006-04-12 06:49 May 13 20:00:57 that's the capacitive transfer thingy? May 13 20:00:57 * * openembedded(AT)hrw.one.pl: Wifi card does not work after upgrade to hostap-modules 0.4.7 May 13 20:01:00 * * http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=836 May 13 20:01:10 once I get thhat goinf, I need to configur ethe DDR interface and see if I can test RAM May 13 20:01:14 ~praise good memory ;-) May 13 20:01:34 koen, no, just a small amount of RAM in the chip itself I think May 13 20:02:02 ah, right May 13 20:02:09 once I work out out how to init flash and RAM I need to figure out u-boot May 13 20:02:30 steveballmer_: I am no expert. but what I did in OZ was to fiddle with /etc/pcmcia/hostap_cs.conf, IIRC May 13 20:02:31 Hopefully, it is close enought to th EVM I can get something to boot May 13 20:02:59 tomorrow AM I think May 13 20:03:05 Crofton: the BSP sucks, I gather? May 13 20:03:15 I will go to work ealry and watch the Giro on the computer May 13 20:03:17 heh May 13 20:03:31 the boeard is running integrity :( May 13 20:03:43 that is the definition of sucks May 13 20:04:03 you guys ever here of Sharp labs? May 13 20:04:18 do you have any pictures of the board you received? May 13 20:04:25 no May 13 20:04:29 But I can take one May 13 20:04:31 you mentions it looked differenct from the propaganda May 13 20:04:37 I think it is OK May 13 20:04:45 we just have the processor board May 13 20:04:59 there are two more they are still working on May 13 20:05:35 I'll a picture on post it though May 13 20:05:47 cool, thanks May 13 20:05:53 * Crofton needs to go to the store and get food May 13 20:05:59 then I watch TV May 13 20:06:09 * Crofton is trying to get his mojo back May 13 20:31:03 Laibsch, fiddle is good :-) May 13 20:32:06 Laibsch, could you send me your /etc/pcmcia/hostap_cs.conf? May 13 20:56:29 please don't tell me that angstrom overrides MACHINE? May 13 20:59:50 CoreDump|home, ? May 13 21:00:23 nm May 13 21:00:39 ok :) May 13 21:13:04 steveballmer_: That won't help you May 13 21:13:15 We do not have the exact same card May 13 21:14:15 You need to take a look at the strings you get from pccardctl ident and make sure an appropriate line is in that file. If it is not there, add it and write a bug report about it. May 14 00:35:51 does angstrom have usb host working for spitz? May 14 00:40:03 summatusmentis: yes May 14 00:40:35 XorA: do I need to modprobe something? May 14 00:41:08 rmmod g-ether; modprobe ohci-hcd May 14 00:46:33 XorA: how do i get it to load on boot? May 14 00:46:55 just add it to /etc/modules May 14 00:47:05 ohci-hcd that is May 14 00:47:13 ok, it said not to edit manually, so I just wanted to make sure May 14 00:47:49 summatusmentis: um, maybe create a file in /etc/modules.d then May 14 00:48:03 summatusmentis: then update-modules to make the modules file again May 14 00:48:09 * XorA forgets we do it the debian way May 14 00:48:09 oh, ok May 14 00:48:32 not modules.d, modutils May 14 00:49:12 summatusmentis: maybe, my spitz isnt on at the moment May 14 00:49:23 yeah, no worries May 14 00:49:58 thanks XorA May 14 01:02:48 XorA: do you know how to change the xcursor theme? May 14 01:02:59 summatusmentis: nope May 14 01:03:22 ok, thaknks May 14 01:03:25 thanks* May 14 01:04:04 * XorA really should sleep as its 2am May 14 01:04:07 bya May 14 01:37:18 !see polyonymous May 14 01:37:21 !seen polyonymous May 14 01:37:23 polyonymous (n=hacker@pD9539F74.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) was last seen quitting from #opie 2 hours, 13 minutes ago stating ({"Leaving"}). May 14 01:42:42 !help May 14 01:44:14 ?? help > summatusmentis May 14 01:45:06 CoreDump|afk: I'm just trying to figure out a way to leave someone a message, I thought i'd seen people do that before May 14 01:45:19 sorry, I wasn't trying to set off a bunch of bells May 14 01:45:32 no worries May 14 01:46:05 cdbot2: does not yet support bot-messages May 14 01:46:40 ok, maybe there's a different bot in one of the other channels(openzaurus or oe) that does that May 14 01:47:13 ibot can do messaging, I dunno how to go about it tho =) May 14 01:47:27 lol, alright, thanks May 14 01:48:43 CoreDump|afk: ibot does botmail... will the other person get notified that they have botmail? May 14 01:49:43 I never used it :\ May 14 01:49:57 alright, thanks May 14 01:50:02 np May 14 01:50:48 you don't by any chance know how to set the cursor theme in gpe do you? May 14 01:51:53 not out of my head May 14 01:52:04 and it's time for bed now, gn8! May 14 01:52:09 alright, I've looked around, thanks May 14 01:52:11 goodnight May 14 02:29:00 w/window 9 May 14 02:29:03 sorry May 14 02:40:44 irssi? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon May 14 02:59:57 2007