**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 30 02:59:57 2007
May 30 03:23:59 <summatusmentis> can someone point me in the right direction? http://pastebin.ca/520964
May 30 03:25:18 <NAbyss> summatusmentis: Is libiconv built?
May 30 03:25:44 <NAbyss> Essentially, it's ld whinging about not being able to find libiconv's exports
May 30 03:26:49 <summatusmentis> NAbyss: built w/ bitbake? as compared to on the host machine?
May 30 03:27:13 <NAbyss> summatusmentis: Built w/ bitbake for the target
May 30 03:28:21 <summatusmentis> NAbyss: libiconv_1.11-r4_armv5te.ipk <-- yeah, it's built
May 30 03:28:46 <summatusmentis> tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv5te
May 30 03:29:12 <NAbyss> Hmm, does tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib/libiconv.* exist?
May 30 03:30:46 <summatusmentis> libiconv.{a,la,so,so.2,so.2.4.0}
May 30 03:30:52 <summatusmentis> so, yes
May 30 03:33:11 <NAbyss> Hmm.
May 30 03:33:55 <NAbyss> I don't see a -liconv in the command line.. is this your own .bb file?
May 30 03:34:09 <summatusmentis> no, I'm not that skilled :-P
May 30 03:34:14 <summatusmentis> just trying to build PHP
May 30 03:35:30 <NAbyss> No idea..
May 30 03:35:48 <NAbyss> I do recall having problems building php, but I never got around to investigating it
May 30 03:36:17 <summatusmentis> hrm... ok, thanks
May 30 03:37:03 <summatusmentis> I wish it were earlier in the evening, because then people would be in #oe
May 30 03:39:44 <NAbyss> summatusmentis: Once I've rebricked my Z, I might take a look :)
May 30 03:40:48 <summatusmentis> rebricked it? that doesn't sound good :-P
May 30 03:41:17 <summatusmentis> if I had any coding skill at all, I'd look at it also, but I've got elementary(at best) skills in that area
May 30 03:41:36 <NAbyss> Flashing, bricking.. either's possible :)
May 30 03:41:45 <summatusmentis> lol
May 30 03:41:50 <NAbyss> I'm not sure how big the hdimage will untar to.. so it may fail
May 30 03:42:37 <summatusmentis> hrm... I screwed up NAND one time building an angstrom image
May 30 03:42:49 <summatusmentis> well, imaging a built angstrom image
May 30 03:49:05 <summatusmentis> NAbyss: on a side not, why does vim screw up the up and down arrow keys via ssh? and why do I not get the 'insert' denotation at the bottom?
May 30 03:49:20 <NAbyss> summatusmentis: Is it real vim, or busybox vim?
May 30 03:49:37 <summatusmentis> I thought it was real vim, I've got real vim installed
May 30 03:49:45 <summatusmentis> I suppose it's possible the symlinks are screwy
May 30 03:55:22 <NAbyss> Hmm.. does anyone know what ipaq support is like w/ angstrom? I've got a friend with an rx3000 type machine, wanting to run some sort of linux distro
May 30 03:55:51 <summatusmentis> I've seen a couple of people in here looking for it, and not finding anything satisfactory
May 30 03:55:55 * summatusmentis goes to bed
May 30 04:38:37 <Furre> trying to restore the NAND, but I get "restore... failed   format error"
May 30 04:38:46 <Furre> anyone know what Im doing wrong?
May 30 04:51:47 <pht_> is there any noticeable difference (speed) when using a journaling fs (on a SD)?
May 30 04:57:41 <NAbyss> pht_: There'd be a slight slowdown, but I wouldn't imagine it'd be noticable. Journalling would adversely affect the life of the SD card though
May 30 04:57:58 <NAbyss> Journalling data or just metadata?
May 30 05:03:29 <pht_> how do i set the timezone to something else than utc?
May 30 05:03:50 <pht_> seems like busybox date ignores /etc/localtime
May 30 05:05:04 <pht_> also to SD cards: is there any speed gain from using highspeed cards, in other words what is the max speed that the tosa hardware can utilize?
May 30 06:07:59 <pht_> damn, the suspend/resume croaks on tosa! it worked in latest OZ
May 30 09:44:23 <pht_> so, again and again, what is the correct howto for adding keyboard layouts and/or multilingual character composition to _X_ ?
May 30 09:45:08 <pht_> i have 'Compose' key via keymap, but that works only in console and not in X
May 30 09:45:37 <pht_> the normal way is to use keyboard layouts, but for some reason XKB is not compiled in the xserver :-/
May 30 10:03:55 <XorA> pht_: are you a developer?
May 30 10:04:49 <pht_> what do you mean?
May 30 10:07:33 <XorA> pht_: do you compile Angstrom, have a good knowledge of X?
May 30 10:08:59 <pht_> well, if it's just about recompiling the xserver then i guess i'll have to do it
May 30 10:09:26 <polyonymous> pht_, lemme translate it - XorA hints that it would be great if you took care of the issue and contributed your solution back :)
May 30 10:09:49 <XorA> polyonymous: I was trying to be more subtle
May 30 10:09:58 <polyonymous> ;-) 
May 30 10:10:30 <XorA> pht_: we dont have XKB in kdrive and I dont think anyone has the time/knowledge to fix it, so if you are the super genius I suspect then please show us how to make it work with nice keymaps
May 30 10:10:30 <polyonymous> XorA, that would be a great thing to do, but painful to watch ;-)
May 30 10:11:20 <polyonymous> Yes, as a non-latin user, I would also appreciate it - it would get me closer to using x11 on Z as well.
May 30 10:11:38 <pht_> from what i've googled it seems that it's only a matter of --enable-xkb in compilation phase. but who knows what else breaks
May 30 10:12:19 <XorA> pht_: well give it a go, and let us know via bug reports you status, a few people have wanted keymaps working right, and especially gnome/mozilla users
May 30 10:12:32 <polyonymous> pht_, I've tried that about a year ago and something didn't work for me, but I haven't had time back then to look deeper into it.
May 30 10:12:52 <polyonymous> And I don't remember what the problem was, of course.
May 30 10:13:08 <koen> polyonymous: a year ago our libx11 didn't have xkb support :)
May 30 10:13:33 <pht_> i guess i'll have to 
May 30 10:13:49 <polyonymous> koen, I think there was a separate libxkb. But well, I don't really remember. And it might have been less than a year ago. Dunno.
May 30 10:13:52 <pht_> make the following changes from my previous bitbake setup
May 30 10:14:03 <pht_> BBFILES = "/opt/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/*/*.bb"
May 30 10:14:07 <pht_> DISTRO = "angstrom"
May 30 10:14:56 <pht_> instead of org...oz354x and "openzaurus", right?
May 30 10:16:17 <koen> pht_: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
May 30 10:17:15 <polyonymous> pht_, I think it's angstrom-2007.1 or something like that.
May 30 10:17:42 <pht_> thanks
May 30 10:21:33 <pht_> second question regarding X: is the original xorg server (not kdrive) intended for general use? (it lacks any input modules, such as keyboard and mouse)
May 30 10:22:14 <XorA> pht_: ooops sounds like bugs, not many people use xorg
May 30 10:23:27 <pht_> actually, the 'Compose' via keymap works in gpe-mini-browser, and maybe a few other apps. but not in terminal and others.
May 30 10:37:28 <XorA> pht_: yeah, different apps in X seem to interpret keyboard differently, and I have no idea about X keymaps
May 30 10:37:44 <XorA> pht_: seems to be a crazy assed system, so if you could tell us how to fix it :-)
May 30 10:50:11 <pht_> heh, yes, as soon as i get a working build environment
May 30 10:50:31 <XorA> pht_: wicked
May 30 10:54:13 <pht_> more like damned
May 30 10:54:23 <pht_> bbl
May 30 10:57:30 <XorA> pht_: thats why we are AngstROM
May 30 10:58:15 <polyonymous> XorA, suffering ROMophobia? :)
May 30 10:58:29 <XorA> :-D
May 30 11:36:14 <koen> XorA|gone: 'ipkg install libwebkitgdk-gdklauncher' if you want a cute browser :)
May 30 11:41:49 <ade|desk> koen: what is webkit capable of doing ?
May 30 11:42:08 <koen> ade|desk: pretty much anything
May 30 11:42:19 <koen> it's the browser engine apple and kde are using
May 30 11:43:47 <ade|desk> and compared to gtkhtml ?
May 30 11:44:19 <hrw> works with ssl services?
May 30 11:53:54 <XorA> my first EE stuff for 6 years :-)
May 30 11:54:33 <XorA> koen: you dont seem to have synced to the feeds yet
May 30 12:14:15 <XorA> koen: icu needs DEPENDS += "icu-native" but not sure if that should be in .inc or .bb
May 30 12:18:56 <dcordes> CoreDump|afk, did you think about using something else for testing the cam ? like http://camorama.fixedgear.org
May 30 12:20:31 <Furre> Anyone know why I cant restore a NAND-rom? it only tells me "format error" ._.
May 30 12:22:51 <XorA> Furre: wrong FS type of CF/SD card or it is really wrong NAND image
May 30 12:24:05 <Furre> no, I took a backup of the NAND so it should work, but I formatted the CF as FAT in windows, isnt that the right one? D:
May 30 12:24:26 <XorA> Furre: that should be right, FAT16 just to be sure
May 30 12:24:29 <Furre> reflashing the C700 worked that way atleast, but obviously not this one x.x
May 30 12:25:28 * Furre doesnt understand what the problem is ._.
May 30 12:25:54 <XorA> Furre: does trisoft have the NAND for that device?
May 30 12:26:17 <Furre> no clue, but im trying to restore a NAND-backup I made myself
May 30 12:26:34 <Furre> but Ill try with the orgiginal one instead then
May 30 12:27:23 <XorA> Furre: http://www.trisoft.de/en_c1000howto.htm try their one just to double check process
May 30 12:27:38 <XorA> Furre: then you can try and narrow down the causes
May 30 12:32:27 <Furre> @.@, flashing with orgiginal file appears to work
May 30 12:32:42 <XorA> Furre: then it seems your backup is faulty :-(
May 30 12:32:43 <Furre> the backup NAND-file didnt, meh, so one cant backup NAND? @.@
May 30 12:32:49 <XorA> Furre: compare lengths and stuff
May 30 12:33:08 <Furre> they are the exact same size and everything o.o
May 30 12:35:45 <Furre> well, that kinda sucked @.@
May 30 12:36:36 <XorA> luckilly thats stuff we dont have anything to do with
May 30 12:37:49 <Furre> o.o?
May 30 12:38:26 <Furre> guess Ill have to reflash everything from start in the future too
May 30 12:41:23 <XorA> Furre: I rarely/never reflash
May 30 12:41:59 <Furre> its wierd, I used ipkg install to install things, then removed the things, and I barely got any memory back @.@
May 30 12:42:55 <XorA> Furre: jffs2 if I remeber write needs to garbage collect
May 30 12:43:04 <XorA> Furre: so you dont see stuff deleted immediatly
May 30 12:46:24 <Furre> oh? o.o, but I did see some changes, just only like 1mb of 28 x.x
May 30 12:55:38 <rwhitby> I've seen jffs2 free space *decrease* after deleting stuff
May 30 13:33:25 <nauj27> see you all!
May 30 13:52:33 <_law_> hmm eds-dbus_svn.bb doesnt build :-( the patches doesnt apply ...
May 30 13:55:47 <_law_> strange, bitbake -b ../../oe/org.openembedded.dev_axim/packages/eds/eds-dbus_svn.bb works
May 30 14:06:47 <Laibsch> Are the good looks from poky available for Angstrom as well?  What package?
May 30 14:07:04 <koen> you mean the sato engine and theme?
May 30 14:07:31 <koen> those aren't in OE yet since they have no releases and o-hand svn is pretty active
May 30 14:08:13 <Laibsch> I am not sure what they are called, but they like nice.  Something which is not always the case for GPE, for example
May 30 14:08:40 <koen> they depend on matchbox-<foo>-2
May 30 14:09:10 <koen> which is highly 'unstable' right now
May 30 14:09:28 <koen> even mallum doesn't get why openmoko uses matchbox-2
May 30 14:09:45 <koen> you can copy the recipes from poky if you want to try it out, though
May 30 14:10:25 <Laibsch> I might do that
May 30 14:10:42 <Laibsch> I would not have known what to get, though.
May 30 14:11:27 <koen> everything having 'sato' and 'matchbox-<foo>-2' in the name :)
May 30 14:13:50 <Laibsch> jupp!
May 30 14:14:23 <koen> and pronounce is 'satto' not 'sa-to' :)
May 30 14:14:34 <koen> but I guess you'll already know that ;)
May 30 14:15:37 <hrw> I use mb-desktop2 on Bv4
May 30 14:15:44 <hrw> it is MUCH better then md-d1
May 30 14:15:56 <koen> ah, that's good to know
May 30 14:16:14 <koen> do the packages conflict, or are they paralllel-installable>
May 30 14:16:19 <koen> s:>:?:
May 30 14:16:37 * koen remembers the mb-panel-2 disaster
May 30 14:17:01 <hrw> they conflict and replace
May 30 14:17:07 <koen> grrr
May 30 14:17:20 <koen> so mallum didn't fix that after ELC
May 30 15:23:47 <Laibsch> koen: But we do have packages/gtk-engines/gtk-sato-engine_svn.bb and packages/matchbox-themes-extra/matchbox-theme-sato_svn.bb in OE
May 30 15:24:09 <koen> ah, right
May 30 15:24:14 <koen> sirfred added them
May 30 15:25:52 <Laibsch> so it looks like everything is already in place, nice!
May 30 15:27:12 <hrw> Laibsch: you also can use settings-daemon
May 30 15:35:47 <hvontres|poodle> Laibsch: Do you happen to know what key the center-button on the SL-5500 is mapped to right now ? I am trying to get together some information to clean up my altboot-menu interface.
May 30 15:38:01 <hrw> hvontres|poodle: space iirc
May 30 15:38:26 <hvontres|poodle> hrw: cool. Same on the clamshells?
May 30 15:38:43 <hrw> clamshells have keyboard
May 30 15:39:19 <hvontres|poodle> hrw: but don't they also have a "joypad" ?
May 30 15:39:57 <koen> no, just funky layed-out directional keys
May 30 15:40:21 <hvontres|poodle> koen: ah, ok.
May 30 15:40:24 <hrw> hvontres|poodle: cxx00 have joypad
May 30 15:40:29 <XorA> its Enter on a clamshell
May 30 15:40:33 <hrw> and center is ok is return 
May 30 15:41:07 <hrw> hvontres|poodle: on my collie center is "E"
May 30 15:41:09 <hrw> ;D
May 30 15:41:16 <hrw> and 'OK' is ~
May 30 15:41:23 <hvontres|poodle> hrw: "E" ?????
May 30 15:41:32 <hrw> yes 
May 30 15:41:37 <koen> hvontres|poodle: you should only need "up" "down" and "activate" for a menu
May 30 15:44:22 <hvontres|poodle> koen: I know. I am trying to figure out what the "Activate" button is mapped to on the diffenerent machines :)
May 30 15:44:31 <koen> aha
May 30 15:44:32 <koen> :)
May 30 15:45:26 <hvontres|poodle> koen: btw, what is the "standard" mapping on ipaq-type devices?
May 30 15:45:40 <koen> 'enter' afaik
May 30 15:46:00 * koen foods
May 30 15:46:05 <hvontres|poodle> koen: thanks
May 30 16:25:03 <Laibsch> hvontres|poodle: I wouldn't have known but I guess you were helped
May 30 16:25:17 <Laibsch> hrw: settings-daemon?  To change the layout or do what?
May 30 16:26:13 <hrw> it sets few gconf vars
May 30 17:11:01 <_law_> hi all! any ideas? http://rafb.net/p/2GHeeO58.html
May 30 17:12:25 <_law_> ok found the problem it uses a wrong .bb file...
May 30 17:12:56 <_law_> hrw|gone: you changed something for the htc tornado, do you have such a device?
May 30 17:37:54 <mr_nice> hi all. Is there any rule for devices to have  /home in a seperate partition?
May 30 17:39:04 <hrw|gone> _law_: no. but this is kernel for it
May 30 17:39:25 <_law_> hrw|gone: ok, i know...
May 30 17:39:49 <_law_> hrw|gone: already talked with florian about that
May 30 17:40:31 <hrw|gone> _law_: if kernel is only for few machines then it has to be told in recipe
May 30 17:41:02 <_law_> ok bb in a few minutes...
May 30 18:11:16 <pht_> hm mh.
May 30 18:12:02 <pht_> after 2 beers, it might be a perfect time to rebuild angstrom
May 30 18:44:43 * XorA|gone wonders why his tcp connections to l2g are so damn slow
May 30 19:20:08 <Freak_NL> hiya
May 30 19:20:28 <Freak_NL> Any Zaurus C1000/3X00 users here today?
May 30 19:22:28 <HRH_H_Crab> yep ive got a spitz
May 30 19:22:36 <HRH_H_Crab> (3200)
May 30 19:22:38 <Freak_NL> Have you modified you keymap?
May 30 19:22:44 <HRH_H_Crab> no
May 30 19:22:47 <Freak_NL> that's a terrier :)
May 30 19:23:25 <HRH_H_Crab> aah yeah,
May 30 19:23:43 <HRH_H_Crab> its just that it uses the spitz tarballs doesnt it?
May 30 19:23:48 <Freak_NL> I've changed mine a bit to add some of the missing blue character above some of the keys
May 30 19:23:54 <Freak_NL> it does
May 30 19:23:59 <Laibsch> Freak_NL: The Via C3 600 MHz is admittedly more known for power-saving than for speed.
May 30 19:24:14 <Laibsch> But it has been doing virtually nothing but compile scim in the past 36 hours
May 30 19:24:20 <Laibsch> And is still not finished
May 30 19:24:21 <Freak_NL> wow :|
May 30 19:24:36 <Laibsch> I believe it is hung up in a recursion.
May 30 19:24:39 <Freak_NL> that's.. odd
May 30 19:24:50 <Laibsch> I think I made some changes.
May 30 19:25:19 <Laibsch> The patch is at http://oz.leggewie.org/wip/scim.patch
May 30 19:25:31 <Laibsch> Let me know if there is anything that is strange.
May 30 19:26:00 <HRH_H_Crab> Freak_NL: you mean stuff like the yen symbol?
May 30 19:26:21 <HRH_H_Crab> and whatever the thing above "d" is supposed to be?
May 30 19:26:28 <HRH_H_Crab> pretty much everything else works on mine.
May 30 19:26:30 <Freak_NL> HRH_H_Crab: yes, and I've changed the Zen/Han key into a composekey
May 30 19:26:38 <Freak_NL> That is a nakaten
May 30 19:26:47 <Freak_NL> added it too
May 30 19:27:20 <HRH_H_Crab> i just wish the little touch keys, and the black ones on the bottom left worked! ;P
May 30 19:27:25 <Freak_NL> I was wondering if other 1000/3X00 users had any other modifications
May 30 19:27:37 <HRH_H_Crab> although, tbh, i can live pretty happily without them.
May 30 19:27:41 <Freak_NL> they do
May 30 19:27:42 <HRH_H_Crab> although, i should add,
May 30 19:27:48 <HRH_H_Crab> im not actually using angstrom yet!
May 30 19:27:52 <Freak_NL> ah!
May 30 19:27:54 <Freak_NL> :)
May 30 19:28:04 <HRH_H_Crab> are they working on angstrom then?
May 30 19:28:06 <Freak_NL> on my 3200 Ångström makes the keys work
May 30 19:28:14 <HRH_H_Crab> that may be reason enough to move...
May 30 19:28:27 <Freak_NL> although the GPE button config destroys that if you run it :(
May 30 19:28:46 <Freak_NL> I haven't changed their bindings yet, but they do work
May 30 19:28:47 <HRH_H_Crab> i just decided to start idling in here to prepare myself ;)
May 30 19:28:56 <Freak_NL> good luck :)
May 30 19:29:03 <Freak_NL> my 3200 likes it
May 30 19:29:28 <HRH_H_Crab> well, if its any sort of improvment on oe/gpe it will be fantastic, because i really love that.
May 30 19:30:12 <Freak_NL> you can check the feeds to see if all the software you want is there
May 30 19:30:53 <Freak_NL> Laibsch: looks just like what I made
May 30 19:31:00 <Freak_NL> I'll run it here
May 30 19:31:55 <Freak_NL> Laibsch: I ran into a runtime segfault with tomoe
May 30 19:32:16 <Freak_NL> troublesome program to build as well due to mysql and subversion
May 30 19:32:19 <Laibsch> Well, some more work
May 30 19:32:32 <Laibsch> What about mysql?
May 30 19:32:38 <Laibsch> It uses mysql?
May 30 19:32:38 <Freak_NL> it doesn't need those modules, but you can't disable the mysql one through configure
May 30 19:32:48 <Laibsch> That sucks
May 30 19:32:48 <Freak_NL> optional, I won't compile it
May 30 19:32:57 <Laibsch> Does mysql build properly?
May 30 19:33:00 <Freak_NL> but the runtime thing is something else
May 30 19:33:03 <Laibsch> I remember there wer some problems
May 30 19:33:12 <Freak_NL> yes, but mysql_config needs work!
May 30 19:33:35 <Freak_NL> mysql_config gets build in staging, but returns all the wrong variables
May 30 19:33:49 <koen> use postgres :)
May 30 19:34:04 <Freak_NL> it needs to be patched to return paths with an OE build env prefix
May 30 19:34:16 <Freak_NL> koen: I would, tomoe doesn't :P
May 30 19:34:48 <Freak_NL> not much of a problem though, tomoe is a character input widget, it does not need mysql as a dependancy
May 30 19:34:52 <Freak_NL> that is silly
May 30 19:35:32 <Freak_NL> I just need to learn how to debug now :)
May 30 19:40:34 <Freak_NL> Laibsch: the files are the same as mine, only yours miss the staging part
May 30 19:40:42 <Freak_NL> shouldn't matter at all
May 30 19:41:41 <Laibsch> OK
May 30 19:41:57 <Laibsch> koen: I sent you an outdated key.  Sorry.
May 30 19:42:27 <Freak_NL> don't forget to add the autotools_stage_all bit
May 30 19:45:06 <Freak_NL> Laibsch: I hope it's not something silly in my recipe
May 30 19:45:16 <Laibsch> It looked sane to me
May 30 19:46:36 <Freak_NL> You are the mentor for the 3X00 family right?
May 30 19:54:09 <Laibsch> Well, I look after all kinds of bugs
May 30 19:55:50 <Freak_NL> These clamshells don't get any custom xmodmap file at this time
May 30 19:57:01 <Laibsch> I think many others don't either
May 30 19:57:08 <Freak_NL> the code in /etc/X11/Xinit.d/12keymap only gives them a custom map if you're running kernel 2.4.X
May 30 19:57:09 <Laibsch> If you have something
May 30 19:57:18 <Laibsch> Just as always, send it our way
May 30 19:57:23 <Freak_NL> I do, but it needs feedback from other users
May 30 19:57:25 <Laibsch> The BTS is open for business
May 30 19:57:34 <Freak_NL> I'll bug it up there
May 30 19:57:40 <Laibsch> Well, that is what the BTS is for
May 30 19:58:40 <polyonymous> whenever Laibsch speaks I have to use all my idle braincycles to decrypt abbreviations ;-)
May 30 19:59:04 <Freak_NL> does Akita have the exact same keyboard layout as the 3X00's?
May 30 19:59:04 <Laibsch> bug tracking system
May 30 19:59:14 <Laibsch> polyonymous: be brief and to the point ;-)
May 30 19:59:22 <polyonymous> Laibsch, no problem, I do have these extra braincycles :)
May 30 19:59:44 <polyonymous> It's just that I never remember these abbreviations and have to make guesses. Never had problems with it so far :
May 30 19:59:45 <polyonymous> :)
May 30 20:34:24 <Freak_NL> http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2404
May 30 20:34:35 <Freak_NL> modmap for Zaurus clamshells
May 30 20:35:21 <Freak_NL> I can actually type Ångström on this 3200 now
May 30 20:35:42 <Freak_NL> (with SCIM)
May 30 20:40:42 <hrw> nice
May 30 20:41:22 <Freak_NL> Needs testing though, it is now setup completely to what seems usefull to me
May 30 20:42:13 <hrw> can you mail to angstrom-distro-devel ML with information why it is needed etc?
May 30 20:42:28 <Freak_NL> sure
May 30 20:42:32 <hrw> thx
May 30 20:43:53 <hrw> can it be used as kernel keymap?
May 30 20:44:01 <hrw> or it is for X11 xmodmap?
May 30 20:44:38 <Freak_NL> X11
May 30 20:45:02 <Freak_NL> I have no knowledge of kernel keymaps
May 30 20:45:12 <hrw> look at /etc/keymap-2.6.map
May 30 20:45:18 <hrw> format looks same
May 30 20:45:40 <Freak_NL> I'll have a look at it
May 30 20:45:44 <hrw> thx
May 30 20:45:55 <hrw> maybe we will be able to merge them
May 30 20:46:44 <hrw> if this will work then it would be great
May 30 20:47:42 <Freak_NL> someone should look at the Xinit.d keymap script
May 30 20:48:02 <Freak_NL> it is outdated with an "kernel 2.4" conditional
May 30 20:49:28 <hrw> it is universal
May 30 20:49:38 <hrw> OE supports 2.4 and 2.6 powered machines
May 30 20:49:59 <hrw> we try to move to 2.6 where possible but some are still on 2.4
May 30 20:54:41 <Freak_NL> list mailed, I'll look at the /etc/keymap-2.6 some time as well
May 30 20:57:06 <Freak_NL> I don't suppose US keyboards have a Euro sign next to the 5, do they?
May 30 21:01:40 <hvontres|poodle> Freak_NL: well, not on mine...but then again, we also don't get an alt-gr key :)
May 30 21:02:27 <hrw> Freak_NL: even EU keyboards differ
May 30 21:02:55 <Freak_NL> I think I saw it on the E key as well somewhere
May 30 21:02:57 <hrw> Freak_NL: some keymapping has euro on RAlt+E, some on RALt+5 or other places
May 30 21:03:24 <hrw> my keyboard does not have Euro sign but it is pre-Euro keyboard. my keyboard mapping lack euro too
May 30 21:03:27 <Freak_NL> The E was already taken on the Z :)
May 30 21:12:12 <XorA|gone> NOTE: package angstrom-x11-image-1.0: completed
May 30 21:12:14 <XorA|gone> woo woo
May 30 22:05:36 <CoreDump|home> re
May 30 22:10:59 <hvontres|poodle> CoreDump|home: Any ideas on what you want the new menu-driven relase to be named? I think I have a .bb file ready. I was just going to do some cleanup on the .conf files.
May 30 22:11:31 <CoreDump|home> hvontres|poodle: your baby your name ;)
May 30 22:11:55 <hvontres|poodle> CoreDump|home: heh...I was thinking maybe 1.0.9 then...
May 30 22:12:35 <CoreDump|home> sounds good
May 30 22:13:03 * CoreDump|home wonders why xserver-common is missing in angstrom
May 30 22:30:40 <CoreDump|home> Is anyone with a c7x0 running angstrom online?
May 30 22:50:23 <rogelio> Hi, does somebody has a good .config for h5000? (good = most devices working)
May 30 22:56:51 <CoreDump|home> koen: could have a look at bug #2110 please? SL-Cxx00 images are missing the display-brightness package
May 30 22:57:27 <koen> I know it is missing
May 30 22:58:02 <koen> but since I don't know who made the display-brightness packages, I can't lart the person for not adding proper deps to whatever calls it
May 30 23:00:01 <CoreDump|home> *coughÜ RDEPENDS_append_openzaurus = " display-brightness"
May 30 23:01:18 <koen> there you have your answer :)
May 30 23:01:58 <CoreDump|home> that was "proper" not too long ago :\
May 30 23:22:01 <koen> nowadays you need to add a zillion _machine overrides
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