**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 01 02:59:58 2007
Jun 01 11:45:50 <pht_> ERROR: Can not check RPATH, scanelf (part of pax-utils-native) not found
Jun 01 11:46:05 <pht_> any idea where do i get this utility?
Jun 01 11:46:21 <pht_> (no apt-gets please)
Jun 01 11:48:08 <hrw> pht_: you use bitbake 1.6?
Jun 01 11:49:01 <koen> I'd guess "pax-utils-native" after reading that error message
Jun 01 11:49:41 <pht_> hrw: 1.8.2
Jun 01 11:50:15 <pht_> all i was able to find on google is gnu "paxutils", which is NOT "pax-utils"
Jun 01 11:52:26 <koen> koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev$ ls packages/pax-utils/
Jun 01 11:52:27 <koen> pax-utils-native_0.1.13.bb  pax-utils_0.1.13.bb
Jun 01 11:53:41 <pht_> so how come bitbake didnt bake 'em?
Jun 01 11:55:45 <NAbyss> Because you didn't ask it to?
Jun 01 11:56:11 <NAbyss> Most of the native tools aren't built in case they're installed, afaik
Jun 01 11:57:45 <pht_> okay, i just thought i have to download and install pax-utils into the system
Jun 01 12:20:32 * XorA finds out not to try and use mdns inside a chroot
Jun 01 12:24:57 <koen> heh
Jun 01 12:44:39 <pht_> what exactly is meant by 'package QA' ?
Jun 01 12:44:53 <XorA> pidgin crashes X :-(
Jun 01 12:45:04 <pht_> or in other words, what sort of QA is done in angstrom?
Jun 01 13:41:21 <adminjs> hi guys
Jun 01 13:41:42 <adminjs> i switched my SL-C3200 to angstrom
Jun 01 13:41:55 <adminjs> and it rocks
Jun 01 13:42:22 <hrw> good to hear
Jun 01 13:43:20 <adminjs> yeah i choose the x11-image
Jun 01 13:44:58 <adminjs> i could even get my billionton cf lan card to work
Jun 01 13:45:08 <adminjs> module pcnet_cs
Jun 01 13:45:30 <adminjs> but i had to uninstall pcmciautils
Jun 01 13:45:41 <adminjs> and install pcmcia_cs
Jun 01 13:55:45 <pht_> NOTE: generating locale es_NI (UTF-8)
Jun 01 13:55:45 <pht_> sh: qemu-arm: command not found
Jun 01 13:56:01 <pht_> here we go... what was the way to skip this step ?
Jun 01 13:56:24 <XorA> adminjs: we should never need pcmcia-cs please file a bug
Jun 01 13:56:25 <hrw> bitbake qemu-native?
Jun 01 13:56:48 <hrw> adminjs: file a bug and enter 'pccardctl ident' output and also dmesg output after card insert
Jun 01 13:56:49 <pht_> i mean skip as in not do it and continue in the build
Jun 01 13:57:15 <XorA> do any angstrom machines need pcmcia-cs?
Jun 01 13:57:29 <hrw> BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "0" in local.conf
Jun 01 13:57:31 <hrw> XorA: no
Jun 01 13:57:38 <koen> pcmcia-cs is so kernel 2.4
Jun 01 13:57:47 <XorA> koen: something for you to remove brutally from feeds then
Jun 01 13:57:52 <hrw> koen: or <2.6.13-rc1
Jun 01 13:57:59 <Crofton> anyone made an efika boot from disk lately?
Jun 01 13:58:24 <adminjs> you mean cardctl ident
Jun 01 13:58:30 <hrw> adminjs: or
Jun 01 13:58:38 <Crofton> I can get it to boot the kernel from disk, but it hangs if I try specifying root
Jun 01 13:58:49 <Crofton> I suspect I have forgotten the magic commands ...
Jun 01 13:59:31 <adminjs> but it works why is it a bug
Jun 01 13:59:46 <hrw> adminjs: because we do not support pcmcia-cs
Jun 01 14:02:03 <XorA> koen: maybe you should add a blacklist to feed syncing scripts :-) just to stop crap like pcmcia-cs appearing by some fewl machine mentor
Jun 01 14:03:23 <hrw> we can also drop hostap-conf/orinoco-conf
Jun 01 14:06:47 <pht_> hrw: that does not seem to help
Jun 01 14:07:25 <koen> install bitbake 1.8.3 from svn
Jun 01 14:07:34 <hrw> ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "0"
Jun 01 14:07:39 <hrw> exactly
Jun 01 14:07:45 <adminjs> has anyone link to bgzilla
Jun 01 14:07:48 <pht_> oh
Jun 01 14:07:54 <pht_> koen: that was to me?
Jun 01 14:07:54 <XorA> adminjs: bugs.openembedded.org
Jun 01 14:24:47 <adminjs> file a bug 2409 can someone check if it ok
Jun 01 14:25:11 <hrw> thx
Jun 01 14:29:04 <pht_> hrw: that did it, thanks
Jun 01 14:35:32 <hrw> adminjs: you have sl-c3x00?
Jun 01 14:40:25 <hrw> adminjs: I will give you pcnet_cs module to replace the one you have on Zaurus.
Jun 01 14:40:52 <hrw> adminjs: after putting it on zaurus you need to remove pcmcia-cs and install pcmciautils back. then reboot
Jun 01 14:55:20 <adminjs> i have SL-C3200
Jun 01 14:57:00 <adminjs> ok where is it?
Jun 01 14:57:54 <hrw> ipkg install http://blog.haerwu.biz/tmp/kernel-module-pcnet-cs_2.6.20-r16_spitz.ipk
Jun 01 15:01:15 <adminjs> om is this module kernel independent
Jun 01 15:02:17 <adminjs> doesn't work ipkg: invalid magic
Jun 01 15:11:59 <pht_> NOTE: package xserver-kdrive-1.2.0: completed
Jun 01 15:12:14 <pht_> it looks like xkb support was easy
Jun 01 15:23:31 <hrw> adminjs: hmm. looks like something unpacked it during download
Jun 01 15:26:22 <adminjs> root@spitz:~$ ipkg install http://blog.haerwu.biz/tmp/kernel-module-pcnet-cs_2.6.20-r16_spitz.ipk
Jun 01 15:26:22 <adminjs> Downloading http://blog.haerwu.biz/tmp/kernel-module-pcnet-cs_2.6.20-r16_spitz.ipk
Jun 01 15:26:22 <adminjs> ipkg: invalid magic
Jun 01 15:26:37 <hrw> shit
Jun 01 15:27:19 <hrw> ipkg install http://blog.haerwu.biz/tmp/kernel-module-pcnet-cs_2.6.20-r16_spitz.ipk.bin
Jun 01 15:35:07 <adminjs> Installing kernel-module-pcnet-cs (2.6.20-r16) to root...
Jun 01 15:35:07 <adminjs> Nothing to be done
Jun 01 15:35:07 <adminjs> Collected errors:
Jun 01 15:35:07 <adminjs> Multiple packages (kernel-module-pcnet-cs and kernel-module-pcnet-cs) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Jun 01 15:35:08 <adminjs> Multiple packages (kernel-module-pcnet-cs and kernel-module-pcnet-cs) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Jun 01 15:35:11 <adminjs> Multiple packages (kernel-module-pcnet-cs and kernel-module-pcnet-cs) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Jun 01 15:35:16 <adminjs> Package kernel-module-pcnet-cs md5sum mismatch. Either the ipkg or the package index are corrupt. Try 'ipkg update'.
Jun 01 15:35:34 <adminjs> should i uninstall first pcmcia-cs
Jun 01 15:36:04 <koen> rm /var/lib/ipkg/* ; ipkg -force-reinstall install http://blog.haerwu.biz/tmp/kernel-module-pcnet-cs_2.6.20-r16_spitz.ipk.bin
Jun 01 15:36:35 <adminjs> does this break my ipkg db?
Jun 01 15:36:45 <hrw> no
Jun 01 15:36:51 <adminjs> what when i update the kernel
Jun 01 15:37:09 <hrw> adminjs: this module is for you kernel
Jun 01 15:37:44 <adminjs> and when i update lateron
Jun 01 15:37:55 <hrw> it is normal package
Jun 01 15:38:16 <hrw> adminjs: ofcourse you can ignore my request and we will ignore 2409 bug 
Jun 01 15:38:50 <adminjs> no i'll give it a try
Jun 01 15:40:10 <adminjs>  Collected errors:
Jun 01 15:40:11 <adminjs> Multiple packages (kernel-module-pcnet-cs and kernel-module-pcnet-cs) providing same name marked HOLD or PREFER.  Using latest.
Jun 01 15:41:37 <XorA> ipkg install --force-reinstall maybe needed
Jun 01 15:42:00 <XorA> oh koen already said that
Jun 01 15:42:34 <koen> try uninstalling it with -force-depends first
Jun 01 15:42:50 <XorA> koen: hurry and fixup dpkg/apt :-)
Jun 01 15:43:07 <adminjs> why not normal remove
Jun 01 15:59:11 <hrw> because
Jun 01 16:08:04 <adminjs> shit i don't get it working
Jun 01 16:26:09 <adminjs> hey its working now
Jun 01 16:26:28 <adminjs> i had to type this in one lin
Jun 01 16:26:43 <adminjs> rm /var/lib/ipkg/* ; ipkg -force-reinstall install http://blog.haerwu.biz/tmp/kernel-module-pcnet-cs_2.6.20-r16_spitz.ipk.bin
Jun 01 16:29:36 <adminjs> thx hrw
Jun 01 16:31:56 <adminjs> BTW what means the ending of package -dbg
Jun 01 17:12:58 * Furre would like a Z with the AMD 2100+ of 9W :x
Jun 01 19:41:14 <pht_> how do i rebuild a package once i've changed its .bb file?
Jun 01 19:41:33 <Crofton> bitbake -c rebuild foo.bb
Jun 01 19:45:14 <pht_> thats seems to do it, thanks
Jun 01 20:16:45 * ScytheBlade1 pokes in
Jun 01 20:16:54 <ScytheBlade1> Ins Angstrom stable on a SL-6000?
Jun 01 20:16:56 <ScytheBlade1> *Is
Jun 01 20:18:06 <pht_> yes
Jun 01 20:18:16 <pht_> except for the suspend bug
Jun 01 20:18:42 <ScytheBlade1> heh
Jun 01 20:18:44 <ScytheBlade1> Suspend bug?
Jun 01 20:22:59 <pht_> suspend/resume with ohci_hcd module loaded crashes the system
Jun 01 20:23:54 <ScytheBlade1> As in, it doesn't suspend?
Jun 01 20:24:23 <ScytheBlade1> Hmm. Isn't almost everything in the system connected with USB, thought?
Jun 01 20:26:59 <pht_> just the wifi and usb port
Jun 01 20:28:17 <Freak_NL> Anyone know how to rotate an USB-mouse's orientation>
Jun 01 20:28:21 <Freak_NL> ?*
Jun 01 20:28:58 <Freak_NL> That is, change all the directions 90°
Jun 01 20:58:56 * Furre has no clue, the USB mouse he has only work up and down, not sideways ^^
Jun 01 21:31:52 <XorA|gone> pht_: did you post the fix to that originally? if not can you reply to koens email confiriming the fix
Jun 01 22:00:51 <deadfinks> anybody know what's up with Palm Zire 72 linux??
Jun 01 22:01:08 <deadfinks> i remember angstrom doing something with it
Jun 01 22:30:55 <CoreDump|home> re
Jun 01 22:37:19 <Freak_NL> CoreDump|home: With regards to the modmap-bug: Did the oz345 patches mention the five "real" buttons as well for the CXX00 series?
Jun 01 22:37:44 <Freak_NL> The eleven keycodes you pasted are all for the touchscreen buttons
Jun 01 22:37:58 <CoreDump|home> Freak_NL: really? hmmm
Jun 01 22:38:23 <CoreDump|home> Freak_NL: I'll look into it, I'm not sure right now
Jun 01 22:38:28 <Freak_NL> They are in my updated modmap
Jun 01 23:44:47 <CoreDump|home> Freak_NL: looks like we just use the kernel keymap for the 5 h/w buttons
Jun 01 23:45:14 <CoreDump|home> Freak_NL: I'll look at your modmap tomorrow =)
Jun 02 00:29:16 <CoreDump|home> This is a first draft of a feature-sheet I have in mind for SL-Cxx00 http://blog.hentges.net/?page_id=98 Implementation is mid to long term, comments and additions welcome
Jun 02 02:29:41 <carbon> ah, from the topic i guess this isn't a good place for user questions?
Jun 02 02:48:38 <Zero_Chaos> carbon: you can try, won't hurt
Jun 02 02:48:47 <carbon> alright
Jun 02 02:49:09 <carbon> i'd like to install angstrom onto my sl-c750, which is currently running a recent pdaxrom
Jun 02 02:49:21 <carbon> to install pdaxrom, i first had to install their patched version of a custom bootloader, u-boot
Jun 02 02:49:41 <carbon> all of the instructions i can find for installing angstrom (or, in fact, any other distro) rely on me having the original sharp bootloader
Jun 02 02:49:56 <carbon> is there a way to get that back, or alternately, is there a way to install angstrom with u-boot?
Jun 02 02:50:56 <Zero_Chaos> carbon: you should ask pdaXrom how to get the sharp rom back on
Jun 02 02:51:03 <Zero_Chaos> carbon: that's *my* best advice
Jun 02 02:51:22 <carbon> hm, ok
Jun 02 02:51:26 <Zero_Chaos> carbon: doesn't mean it is the easiest/best way, but it is a way
Jun 02 02:51:43 <carbon> well, once i've got it back to that sort of a known state, i'll feel safer
Jun 02 02:51:57 <carbon> it would really be a shame if i bricked this thing so soon after i got it :-\
Jun 02 02:52:42 <Zero_Chaos> carbon: it is nearly impossible to brick it unless you install a custom boot loader (which you did)
Jun 02 02:52:48 <carbon> heh
Jun 02 02:53:13 <Zero_Chaos> carbon: OZ/Angstrom use the sharp bootloader and as such, you can fail the flash MISERABLY and just pull the battery for 24 hours and then reflash it
Jun 02 02:53:44 <carbon> well, actually, to install the custom bootloader in the first place, i used the poweron+C+D trick, which didn't display anything on the screen but seeemd to do the job
Jun 02 02:54:04 <carbon> is that at a lower level than the bootloader? i mean, if i screwed up the MBR massively, would that still work?
Jun 02 02:54:36 <Zero_Chaos> dunno, I know that the way OZ and Angstrom flash things it's damn hard to kill the device
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