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Jun 03 07:40:59 <goxboxlive> good morning koen
Jun 03 10:55:37 <nauj27> hi all
Jun 03 12:31:42 <CoreDump|home> morning
Jun 03 14:28:23 <soatola> firefox
Jun 03 15:14:01 <Freak_NL> lol. output of a `make`:  WARNING: Warnings can be ignored. :-)
Jun 03 15:19:59 <TomCooksey> hello Any humans in here?
Jun 03 15:25:43 <Freak_NL> nah, just us bots
Jun 03 15:27:16 <TomCooksey> excelent. :-)
Jun 03 15:28:06 <TomCooksey> I'm trying to get Angstrom working on a gumstix
Jun 03 15:29:20 <TomCooksey> I'm an oe newbie and would like to ask a few newbie questions
Jun 03 15:30:24 <Freak_NL> I might be able to answer some OE basic things, but not much more than that I'm afraid. But ask ahead, someone might be able to help.
Jun 03 15:31:09 <TomCooksey> Ok... simple one. When/Why does bitbake build a toolchain.
Jun 03 15:32:06 <TomCooksey> I bibake task-base on an empty (apart from local.conf) build dir... it magicly tries to build a toolchain
Jun 03 15:33:59 <TomCooksey> reading through the mailing list archives, task-sdk is mentioned a few times. I'm assuming this is the recipie which builds the toolchain.
Jun 03 15:34:42 <Crofton> TomCooksey, bb builds the tool chain because it needs cross compilers
Jun 03 15:35:06 <Crofton> I think task sdk may buils tool chains for use outside OE
Jun 03 15:35:09 <TomCooksey> Am I correct in thinking that "task-sdk" is added as a dependency of "task-base"?
Jun 03 15:35:19 <Crofton> I am not certain exactly what trigger the tool chain buids
Jun 03 15:35:22 <Crofton> yeah
Jun 03 15:35:25 <Crofton> I think so
Jun 03 15:35:44 <Crofton> there is a certain amount of magic
Jun 03 15:36:52 <TomCooksey> yeah... trouble is I've not been able to build anything with oe yet as everything I've tried seems to fail. I'm trying to understand the magic so I can fix my build
Jun 03 15:37:05 <Crofton> how does it fail?
Jun 03 15:37:25 <Crofton> does gumstiix  have a machine file
Jun 03 15:38:22 <TomCooksey> well, building a angstrom DISTO fails reguardless of my MACHINE because for some (crazy) reason it tries to guild qemu, which fails because qemu bombs out complaining that gcc 4.x.x isn't supported
Jun 03 15:38:47 <Laibsch> TomCooksey: read through the BTS 
Jun 03 15:38:52 <Laibsch> There is a solution in there
Jun 03 15:38:58 <Laibsch> Actually, there are two
Jun 03 15:39:08 <Laibsch> bugs.openemebedded.org
Jun 03 15:39:17 <Laibsch> http://bugs.openemebedded.org
Jun 03 15:39:34 <TomCooksey> please excuse my newbie-ness, BTS? Bug-Tracking-System??
Jun 03 15:39:41 <Crofton> good guess
Jun 03 15:39:44 <Laibsch> the link I gave you
Jun 03 15:40:06 <TomCooksey> ok, thanks
Jun 03 15:42:30 <Freak_NL> TomCooksey: I switch to GCC 3 for OE building
Jun 03 15:42:32 <polyonymous> TomCooksey, but I think reading local.conf comments alone should do.
Jun 03 15:42:36 <TomCooksey> out of a matter of interest, why is qemu being built? Some kind of aautomated testing?
Jun 03 15:42:56 <polyonymous> TomCooksey, you really-really should read the file before asking.
Jun 03 15:43:11 <Freak_NL> It complained about GCC 4, so I just use 3 for Angstrom
Jun 03 15:44:37 <TomCooksey> ok, that brings me onto my second (HIGHLY newbie) question, how does bitbake know what version of packages to build? Does it always use the newest? Is there a masking system like portage?
Jun 03 15:45:42 <polyonymous> TomCooksey, it's relatively hard not to remain newbie in this area ;-)
Jun 03 15:46:26 <polyonymous> TomCooksey, you can select preferred version, you can mask certain .bbs (it's like masking .ebuild files, not packages), and you can totally get lost trying to track down what have you done :)
Jun 03 15:50:30 <TomCooksey> ok, so If my target's got <128 MB ram, it won't be able to generate it's own binary locale on first boot? So it needs a qemu vm to do it instead?
Jun 03 15:50:52 <polyonymous> TomCooksey, I think that's it.
Jun 03 15:51:11 <polyonymous> TomCooksey, although I'm not sure if I was able to generate binary locale on my Z without swap too.
Jun 03 15:51:25 <polyonymous> (and I have spitz)
Jun 03 15:51:30 <polyonymous> borzoi even
Jun 03 15:52:11 <Crofton> I disable binary locale generation
Jun 03 15:52:17 <Crofton> I don't have any display :)
Jun 03 15:52:25 <TomCooksey> right, well a gumstix has got 64MB RAM, so I guess I need qemu. So, I either drop to gcc 3.x.x or provide my own qemu?
Jun 03 15:52:33 <polyonymous> I generate them using swap. After all I don't generate them on daily basis :)
Jun 03 15:52:36 <Crofton> hang on
Jun 03 15:52:56 <Crofton_> ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "0"
Jun 03 15:53:03 <Crofton_> add that to local.conf
Jun 03 15:53:03 <polyonymous> TomCooksey, if you have amd64 build host, you're doomed.
Jun 03 15:53:14 <polyonymous> Crofton, I'd even say "uncomment that" :)
Jun 03 15:53:21 <Crofton_> :)
Jun 03 15:53:30 <TomCooksey> Really???!!!?
Jun 03 15:53:42 <TomCooksey> what's wrong with amd64 build host?
Jun 03 15:54:03 <Crofton> I don't think qemu works on it?
Jun 03 15:54:04 <polyonymous> TomCooksey, I think it doesn't work even with gcc3
Jun 03 15:54:08 <Crofton> http://www.balister.org/~balister/embedded_desk.jpg
Jun 03 15:54:19 <Crofton> My collection of Angstrom machines
Jun 03 15:54:22 <polyonymous> TomCooksey, if you fix it, I'd be grateful :)
Jun 03 15:55:00 <polyonymous> Crofton, my picture would be much smaller :)
Jun 03 15:55:13 <TomCooksey> hmm.. I'm pretty sure I've had qemu arm systems boot before, although I could be wrong. Possibly I was using a 32-bit binary qemu.
Jun 03 15:55:58 <polyonymous> TomCooksey, I was thinking about having 32-bit binary qemu on my machine, but haven't got time to play with that.
Jun 03 15:56:15 <polyonymous> TomCooksey, and having working qemu and having qemu that would work with OE isn't the same, I believe.
Jun 03 15:57:33 <TomCooksey> yeah, just read something about that. Surely as long as the qemu march is the same as the target, it doesn't matter what machine qemu is emulating?
Jun 03 15:58:34 <polyonymous> well, I'd rather stop answering qemu question since I have never got one working :)
Jun 03 15:59:23 <TomCooksey> fair enough. I think I'll try setting "ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION" to 0 and give it a go.
Jun 03 16:00:03 <polyonymous> TomCooksey, yes, that should work, that's what I have.
Jun 03 16:00:12 <TomCooksey> back to the version question, by default, will bitbake use the highest-numbered verson number of a package?
Jun 03 16:00:44 <polyonymous> TomCooksey, *I think* - unless you have preferred provider defined and the .bb doesn't have a DEFAULT_PREFERENCE of -1
Jun 03 16:01:02 <Crofton> or there are prefered versions set
Jun 03 16:01:08 <Crofton> which is often the case
Jun 03 16:01:18 <polyonymous> Crofton, I did mention that :)
Jun 03 16:01:29 * Crofton is doing two things at once :)
Jun 03 16:01:39 <polyonymous> only two? :)
Jun 03 16:01:48 <Crofton> I am simplifying
Jun 03 16:01:57 <polyonymous> ah ok
Jun 03 16:03:11 <TomCooksey> and prefered provides are specified by appending the "PREFERED_PROVIDERS" var?
Jun 03 16:03:32 <polyonymous> TomCooksey, something like that, snoop around the sources.
Jun 03 16:04:25 <TomCooksey> yeah, I have been. What does the operator "?=" do? Set the var only if it's currently unset?
Jun 03 16:06:47 <polyonymous> yup
Jun 03 16:07:48 <TomCooksey> so, if a var is assigned using ?= in 2 places, then referenced, the first ?= the parser came across is used?
Jun 03 16:08:22 <polyonymous> yes
Jun 03 16:10:18 <TomCooksey> Is there an easy way for me to add ?= to the bitbake user manual? Chapter 2, metadata seems to have missed it.
Jun 03 16:11:12 <polyonymous> TomCooksey, no idea. but someone should know :)
Jun 03 16:11:42 <TomCooksey> ok.. I might ask on the mailing list.
Jun 03 16:11:58 <polyonymous> or that. I wouldn't claim manuals as my strength :)
Jun 03 16:13:03 <TomCooksey> I realise that Angstrom is currently being developed for zaurus type devices, but do you think adding the gumstix to the supported devices is a possibility?
Jun 03 16:13:38 <polyonymous> TomCooksey, Angstrom is targeted for as many devices as possible. If there's no one working on gumstix-enabling it, feel free to contribute.
Jun 03 16:13:46 <polyonymous> I don't know if there is.
Jun 03 16:14:41 <TomCooksey> well that's what I'd like to do. I just need to get my OE skills up beyond "complete inept" before offering. :-)
Jun 03 16:15:07 <polyonymous> TomCooksey, just do it and contribute patches, that's what any sane developer would start with :)
Jun 03 16:15:36 <polyonymous> If I can go as far as stating my own sanity which is a doubtful point :)
Jun 03 16:17:15 <TomCooksey> ok, well I have a "generic" DISTRO being guild for a c7x0 at the moment, hopefully that will build ok, then I can move onto getting a gumstix "generic" built etc.
Jun 03 16:18:40 <TomCooksey> Do you know of anyone working on generic OE gumstix machine support? I found a gumstix.conf in conf/machine which looks right, but I've not seen anything on the mailing lists.
Jun 03 16:20:11 <TomCooksey> I know gumstix have wanted to move away from buildroot for ages and OE is the natural progression. I'm just wondering if I'm duplicating on-going work.
Jun 03 16:20:12 <Crofton_> no
Jun 03 16:20:20 <polyonymous> TomCooksey, try DISTRO=angstrom and MACHINE=gumstix? And fix it if it doesn't work.
Jun 03 16:20:24 <Crofton_> I ahven't heard of anyone
Jun 03 16:20:32 <Crofton_> polyonymous, agreed
Jun 03 16:20:43 <Crofton_> more people care about Angstrom than generic
Jun 03 16:21:18 <TomCooksey> yeah, that's what I (optimistically) tried first. I think that actually failed on uclibc before it even got to qemu
Jun 03 16:21:40 <polyonymous> well, I can't comment on this as I haven't ever tried it.
Jun 03 16:22:02 <polyonymous> woohoo qt4 build completed. Now I need to split my oe.patch into some sane chunks :)
Jun 03 16:23:49 <Crofton_> uclibc support is newish
Jun 03 16:24:13 <polyonymous> yes, I haven't tried uclibc at all.
Jun 03 16:26:39 <Crofton> I wonder why ppc binaries are twice as big as osk binaries for the same code
Jun 03 16:27:06 <Crofton> http://pastebin.ca/533858
Jun 03 16:27:48 <TomCooksey> is "angstrom-minimal-image" still the best thing to bitbake first?
Jun 03 16:27:53 <polyonymous> no clue. debug info? :)
Jun 03 16:28:06 <Crofton_> they both are from Angstrom images
Jun 03 16:28:11 <polyonymous> TomCooksey, probably a good start. I've never built it, though.
Jun 03 16:28:14 <Crofton_> so I assume they are both processed the same
Jun 03 16:28:24 <Crofton_> bootstrap-image
Jun 03 16:28:27 <Crofton_> is what I use
Jun 03 16:28:41 <Crofton_> that runs on the OSK
Jun 03 16:28:48 <TomCooksey> bootstrap-image... right, I'll give that a go
Jun 03 16:28:52 <TomCooksey> thanbks
Jun 03 20:36:29 <ucordes> How can I get a more recent system with x11 then 20070507 for my akita?
Jun 03 20:36:46 <polyonymous> build it?
Jun 03 20:36:46 <koen> ipkg update ; ipkg upgrade
Jun 03 20:36:56 <polyonymous> ah system, not image...
Jun 03 20:37:11 <koen> reflashing is for losers ;)
Jun 03 20:37:26 <polyonymous> Well, that might have been the initial flash :)
Jun 03 20:37:29 <ucordes> koen: will upgrade also give me later kernel versions?
Jun 03 20:37:32 <koen> (and people like me that have a gift for deleting stuff like /sbin)
Jun 03 20:37:55 <polyonymous> :)))
Jun 03 20:38:19 <polyonymous> I have no idea about feeds, but if it will give you the latest kernel, you will also have to be a loser and flash it :)
Jun 03 20:39:06 <ucordes> but there is only the 0507 image :(
Jun 03 20:39:52 <polyonymous> ucordes, and zImage too? (I have no idea)
Jun 03 20:40:08 <ucordes> there is a later console image
Jun 03 20:40:21 <ucordes> 0512
Jun 03 20:40:53 <ucordes> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/akita/
Jun 03 20:41:03 <polyonymous> well, I don't know what's the official procedure for upgrading kernel...
Jun 03 20:43:03 <adminjs> hello
Jun 03 20:47:29 <adminjs> can someone tell me how to say ipkg whare to download and install stuff?
Jun 03 20:47:49 <adminjs> my / is 98% full
Jun 03 20:48:46 <polyonymous> ipkg help, maybe? Was it -o or something... Never tried it, though.
Jun 03 20:49:15 <ucordes> adminjs: ipkg -d card
Jun 03 20:49:25 <ucordes> iirc
Jun 03 20:49:36 <adminjs> na not on a card
Jun 03 20:49:53 <adminjs> i wanna move it to the big partition /media/hdd
Jun 03 20:50:24 <polyonymous> well, I just repartitioned my hdd into a single partition.
Jun 03 20:51:17 <ucordes> is it possible to extract angstrom to card and boot it from out the bootloader?
Jun 03 20:51:44 <polyonymous> I think it depends on the device.
Jun 03 20:51:45 <ucordes> adminjs: I think the possibilities for -d are in /etc/ipkg.conf or so
Jun 03 20:51:53 <ucordes> zaurus c1000 akita
Jun 03 20:52:09 <polyonymous> ucordes, the alternative is running from flash?
Jun 03 20:52:29 <ucordes> yep I have openzaurus installed on the internal flash
Jun 03 20:52:41 <polyonymous> ucordes, maybe altboot is the way to go?
Jun 03 20:52:50 <ucordes> I have altboot installed
Jun 03 20:53:45 <polyonymous> ucordes, well, then it's a matter of tweaking configs. I can't tell how to do it, since I've never used stock altboot config files, I'm testing images in chrooted environment on hdd.
Jun 03 20:53:47 <ucordes> polyonymous: I don't know which of these I need http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/akita/20070507/
Jun 03 20:54:14 <polyonymous> ah... and you will need a kexec too...
Jun 03 20:54:28 <polyonymous> ucordes, and I can't tell you anything about official images, especially ones for aktia.
Jun 03 20:54:30 <polyonymous> akita too.
Jun 03 20:54:41 <ucordes> polyonymous: That's not the problem. I can chose to boot from sd there. But I don't know which image to use and when I try to extract them I get errors on the /dev/files
Jun 03 20:54:53 <polyonymous> I'd expect you to need .tarballs and zImage
Jun 03 20:54:55 <adminjs> yes i know i changed them
Jun 03 20:55:05 <adminjs> but wenn i install firefox
Jun 03 20:55:15 <adminjs> iget wget no space on device
Jun 03 20:55:22 <polyonymous> adminjs, ahh
Jun 03 20:55:44 <polyonymous> adminjs, ipkg -t ?
Jun 03 20:56:46 <adminjs> ipkg: ipkg must have one sub-command argument
Jun 03 20:57:07 <polyonymous> adminjs, what is the command line?
Jun 03 20:57:25 <adminjs> ipkg -t
Jun 03 20:57:36 <polyonymous> adminjs, ipkg help, damnit ;-)
Jun 03 20:58:28 <adminjs> i don't get it
Jun 03 20:58:48 <polyonymous> adminjs, you don't get what? `ipkg -t` is not a command, it's a hint about which option to use.
Jun 03 20:58:58 <polyonymous> and ipkg help will give you more or less descriptive information.
Jun 03 20:59:24 <adminjs> i tried alredy the obious one
Jun 03 20:59:37 <polyonymous> you tried what?
Jun 03 20:59:45 <adminjs> tried -d and --dest  -> not working
Jun 03 20:59:51 <polyonymous> adminjs, did I mention -t?
Jun 03 21:00:57 <adminjs> ah you mean Specify tmp-dir  to big partition
Jun 03 21:01:05 <polyonymous> bingo!
Jun 03 21:02:36 <adminjs> cheers btw does firefox start on your device?
Jun 03 21:02:38 * CoreDump|home applauds adminjs 
Jun 03 21:02:54 <CoreDump|home> ff just segfaults
Jun 03 21:03:39 <polyonymous> haven't tried yet.
Jun 03 21:04:15 <polyonymous> CoreDump|home, with your nick everything should segfault :) And do set proper ulimit :)
Jun 03 21:04:23 <CoreDump|afk> CoreDump|afk: =)
Jun 03 21:04:36 <adminjs> same here
Jun 03 21:04:49 <polyonymous> adminjs, then you also need to work on your nickname ;-)))
Jun 03 21:04:50 <CoreDump|afk> a fix for FF would be most welcome
Jun 03 21:05:35 <polyonymous> but is it really usable on handheld? I mean speed?
Jun 03 21:06:05 <CoreDump|afk> IMO yes
Jun 03 21:06:28 <polyonymous> ok. I'm just asking, I haven't tried it for ages and when I did, I don't remember if I had speed problems :)
Jun 03 21:06:50 <polyonymous> Running task 1732 of 3597.... argh
Jun 03 21:07:06 <CoreDump|afk> n8 all
Jun 03 21:07:10 <polyonymous> night
Jun 03 21:12:40 <ucordes> how can I get the akita boot image onto my card?
Jun 03 21:12:48 <ucordes> ür „/media/disk/lib/modules/2.6.20.6/kernel/net/irda/irnet/irnet.ko“ nicht erhalten: Operation not permitted
Jun 03 21:13:03 <ucordes> oh sorry
Jun 03 21:31:15 <ucordes> are there any instructions for installation on card with akita?
Jun 03 21:34:08 <Zero_Chaos> ucordes: on OZ's wiki
Jun 03 21:35:30 <ucordes> Zero_Chaos: thanks
Jun 03 21:45:15 <ucordes> Zero_Chaos: I can
Jun 03 21:45:31 <ucordes> I can't find sd instructions there. Could you give me a link?
Jun 03 21:47:27 <Zero_Chaos> hold okay, turn on, option 4, then SD option, then left button
Jun 03 21:48:58 <ucordes> Zero_Chaos: sorry I wasn't precise enough. I'm trying to install angstrom to the card and boot it with altboot from there.
Jun 03 21:49:15 <Zero_Chaos> oh, now that I have no idea where to find or how to do
Jun 03 21:49:16 <Zero_Chaos> sorry
Jun 03 21:49:34 <ucordes> ok thank you anyways
Jun 03 21:49:46 <Laibsch> ucordes: no altboot in the official feeds yet, I think
Jun 03 21:49:52 <ucordes> think I will just get rid of oz and install it to the internal flash again
Jun 03 21:49:57 <Laibsch> ucordes: Only way is if you bake it yourself
Jun 03 21:50:35 <ucordes> Laibsch: I would have used the alboot from my current openzaurus installation on the flash
Jun 03 21:50:50 <polyonymous> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=altboot - that's not it?
Jun 03 21:51:13 <ucordes> heh
Jun 03 21:51:19 <polyonymous> but I think ucordes wants (has) altboot on his current system, not angstrom
Jun 03 21:51:29 <ucordes> right
Jun 03 21:54:40 <Laibsch> polyonymous: I thought it was not there.  koen said something to that effect IIRC
Jun 03 21:54:59 <Laibsch> While it might be possible to mix OZ and angstrom, I would usually not do it.
Jun 03 21:55:14 <polyonymous> Laibsch, I know CoreDump been working on it, maybe that's the result. I haven't looked at it, of course.
Jun 03 21:55:26 <Laibsch> The only time I would even consider is a) separate partitions or b) exactly the same kernel
Jun 03 21:55:55 <polyonymous> Laibsch, I wouldn't do it either, but I _had_ to do it before I could switch to angstrom, because I had to make sure things work. And actually make them work too :)
Jun 03 21:56:04 <Laibsch> polyonymous: I think it will work eventually across distros, too.  But until officially announced or put up for testing here, I would not try it.
Jun 03 21:56:49 <polyonymous> across distros you would want kexec. But I take it ucordes needs to test angstrom before switching to it - and I would do the same.
Jun 03 21:56:57 <polyonymous> I may be wrong about his intentions though
Jun 03 22:02:38 <Laibsch> If you rely on your device, I think it is not yet Angstrom time until officially released.
Jun 03 22:03:34 <polyonymous> I rely on my device :)
Jun 03 22:04:29 <polyonymous> but yes, you should expect all possible unwanted consequences.
Jun 03 22:04:41 <polyonymous> ucordes, are you using X?
Jun 03 22:05:46 <ucordes> polyonymous: your intentions are right.. On openzaurus everything works ok but I want to try out new things so I'm switching back to anstrom now
Jun 03 22:06:11 <ucordes> for example my sound didn't work in angstrom. I already opened a ticket about this
Jun 03 22:06:23 <polyonymous> ucordes, in X?
Jun 03 22:06:43 <ucordes> I had the latest X image installed before yes
Jun 03 22:07:06 <polyonymous> ah. I don't know much about angstrom's x image yet, just tried it a bit.
Jun 03 22:07:29 <polyonymous> angstrom's opie for my purpose is as good as OZ and may be a bit better now. And sound works too :)
Jun 03 22:07:48 <Zero_Chaos> polyonymous: angstrom has opie now?
Jun 03 22:07:52 * Zero_Chaos begins to drool
Jun 03 22:07:55 <Zero_Chaos> polyonymous: really?
Jun 03 22:08:05 <polyonymous> Zero_Chaos, not officially yet, but you can bake opie-kdepim-image
Jun 03 22:08:10 <ucordes> I did just flash with 20070507 X11 image and the latest available zImage
Jun 03 22:08:15 <polyonymous> well, not necessarily kdepim, that's what I use though.
Jun 03 22:08:40 <polyonymous> there are no opie binaries for angstrom too.
Jun 03 22:09:00 <Zero_Chaos> interesting, I've not tried building an opie image for a while.
Jun 03 22:09:56 <polyonymous> Zero_Chaos, I had to prepare angstrom's opie image before my trip to moscow in the beginning of may. All patches are in since that time.
Jun 03 22:11:43 <Zero_Chaos> polyonymous: so opie-image and opie-kdepim-image work with angstrom? you should rename them and put into angstrom distro area
Jun 03 22:11:57 <polyonymous> Zero_Chaos, when they're officially supported.
Jun 03 22:12:06 <Zero_Chaos> polyonymous: cool
Jun 03 22:12:35 <polyonymous> Zero_Chaos, http://linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpieWithAngstrom
Jun 03 22:12:58 <Zero_Chaos> polyonymous: thanks
Jun 03 22:13:01 <Zero_Chaos> off to dinner
Jun 03 22:13:03 <Zero_Chaos> later all
Jun 03 22:13:09 <polyonymous> later
Jun 03 22:18:22 <ucordes> I would like to make one out of the two sperate partitions for / and /home/ on my zaurus. Would that be possible?
Jun 03 22:18:26 <ucordes> akita here
Jun 03 22:19:19 <polyonymous> dunno.
Jun 03 22:19:40 <polyonymous> I think yes, this way or another, but I can't tell you which ; )
Jun 03 22:20:50 <ucordes> I would just have to remove my /home/ partition and resize / with the rest but that's not possible while /home/ partition is mounted, right?
Jun 03 22:23:02 <polyonymous> guess not.
Jun 03 22:23:49 <polyonymous> I think flash repartitioning was totally different from disk, but I don't remember, anyway. I'm not using my flash atm.
Jun 03 22:29:05 <ucordes> I'm off 
Jun 03 22:29:11 <polyonymous> ciao
Jun 03 23:23:12 <adminjs> heyho
Jun 03 23:28:20 <summatusmentis> hi adminjs 
Jun 03 23:29:05 <summatusmentis> can someone tell me what these errors mean? This is a bitbake'd version of wget that I'm trying to install http://www.pastebin.ca/534983
Jun 03 23:31:16 <adminjs> sorry
Jun 03 23:33:42 <summatusmentis> adminjs: are you new to angstrom? i haven't seen you here before...
Jun 03 23:34:04 <adminjs> yes
Jun 03 23:34:27 <adminjs> im a poweruser
Jun 03 23:35:39 <summatusmentis> right on, angstrom is for you :-)
Jun 03 23:36:02 <adminjs> yes i love it
Jun 03 23:36:14 <summatusmentis> what machne?
Jun 03 23:36:21 <summatusmentis> machine*
Jun 03 23:36:29 <adminjs> sl-c3200
Jun 03 23:37:00 <summatusmentis> mm, it's a pretty solid distro for terrier
Jun 03 23:37:36 <adminjs> yes innit
Jun 03 23:44:01 <adminjs> are you a dev
Jun 03 23:44:46 <summatusmentis> adminjs: erm... working on becoming one :-) mostly just bug-reporter, and OE user at the minute, why?
Jun 03 23:45:03 <summatusmentis> +tester
Jun 03 23:45:26 <adminjs> just curious
Jun 03 23:45:44 <summatusmentis> yeah, I'd like to get to that point where I can do something useful :-)
Jun 03 23:47:02 <adminjs> ok cool
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