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Jun 05 07:30:02 <koen> CoreDump|afk: that's no problem for the splitting scripts :)
Jun 05 07:51:39 <hrw> koen: do you remember how bad/good are Palm devices supported in OE?
Jun 05 07:54:01 <koen> no
Jun 05 07:54:26 <koen> I cleaned up some machine configs, but no idea about kernel, keymaps, etc
Jun 05 07:54:43 <hrw> ok
Jun 05 07:58:39 <XorA> morning
Jun 05 07:59:08 <koen> hey XorA 
Jun 05 10:52:35 <Furre> Anyone got a C700? If so, I got a leathercase and a sparebattery that I dont have any use for, if anyone want it, all it'd cost is the cost of shipping it to you.
Jun 05 10:53:55 <hrw> I can give leathercase too.
Jun 05 10:54:06 <hrw> Furre: you are from US or EU?
Jun 05 10:57:01 <Furre> sweden, so EU
Jun 05 10:57:46 <Furre> going to send the C700 back to the seller since it was far from in the condition he claimed, still had to pay $80 just for the costum-fees that im not getting back either, figured Id just give the case and battery away :x
Jun 05 10:58:35 <XorA> Furre: :-(
Jun 05 10:59:32 * XorA shall have to see about selling his C860 after holiday
Jun 05 10:59:56 <Furre> evil paypal thinks its fair for me to pay the costumfees even thought the seller is the one to blaim for this :/
Jun 05 11:00:01 <Furre> why sell? =)
Jun 05 11:00:15 <XorA> its been sitting on my desk for 2 months unused
Jun 05 11:00:26 <Furre> aah :)
Jun 05 11:00:39 * Furre brbs to get something to eat, is starving
Jun 05 11:00:47 <XorA> pity your need for a Z didnt coincide with my realisation I had no need of it anymore
Jun 05 11:00:58 <koen> http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/collie/20070604/
Jun 05 11:01:32 <XorA> cool
Jun 05 11:01:36 <Furre> XorA, well, needed USB anyway so ^^
Jun 05 11:01:49 <XorA> Furre: cool, not an irritation then
Jun 05 11:02:04 <Furre> not for you no ;)
Jun 05 11:12:40 <Laibsch> Furre: Maybe you get your money back from customs when you tell them what happened
Jun 05 11:13:40 <Furre> I did tell, and they only said I will get the money back that I payed through paypal, once the seller say he got the item back, so if he dont say he got it back, Ill not get any money back either :/
Jun 05 11:14:00 <Furre> and that have already happen to me once before with a cellphone, never got any money back at all x.x
Jun 05 11:16:37 * XorA laughs at the goatse.cx versionn of Olimpics symbol
Jun 05 11:17:06 <XorA> Furre: hopefully you used Visa
Jun 05 11:17:41 <Furre> I did not, I used money from paypal account
Jun 05 11:18:39 <XorA> Furre: :-( I always use credit card for valuable stuff as then I can complain to card company who can force a refund
Jun 05 11:19:13 <Furre> dont have a CC so cant do that :x
Jun 05 11:19:36 <Furre> oh well, going to have to pay another $40 just to send the C700 back aswell, so im loosing ~$120, cause of the seller x.x
Jun 05 12:21:35 <Laibsch> I'd just keep it, then
Jun 05 12:21:43 <Laibsch> And possibly try to sell it on.
Jun 05 12:21:48 <Laibsch> Makes more sense
Jun 05 12:34:23 <koen> Packaged contents of kazehakase into /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv5te/kazehakase_0.4.7-r0_armv5te.ipk
Jun 05 12:44:58 <Freak_NL> koen: a Japanese gecko browser?
Jun 05 12:46:08 <koen> Freak_NL: gtk-webcore as backend
Jun 05 12:47:00 <XorA> Freak_NL: dont get excited, it needs some gcc4/sane code fixes I havent had time to make yet
Jun 05 12:47:10 <Freak_NL> odd name
Jun 05 12:47:44 <Freak_NL> "Wind, PhD"
Jun 05 12:48:24 <XorA> Freak_NL: Ill bet thats a literal description :-)
Jun 05 12:48:41 <Laibsch> XorA: It is
Jun 05 12:48:57 <Laibsch> But it could be windmaster
Jun 05 12:49:16 <Laibsch> Or coldmaster like "the flu"
Jun 05 12:49:28 <Laibsch> or colddoctor, who knows ;-)
Jun 05 12:50:23 <Freak_NL> different kanji for the cold
Jun 05 12:50:31 <Freak_NL> nothing in the Japanese FAQ either
Jun 05 12:51:45 <Freak_NL> ah, got it
Jun 05 12:51:52 <Freak_NL> literary reference
Jun 05 12:55:14 <Freak_NL> A 1931 novel by Sakaguchi Ango
Jun 05 12:55:42 <Freak_NL> not much on what it means though, although the text is in the public domain and available for download
Jun 05 12:55:49 <Freak_NL> so know we know :)
Jun 05 12:56:00 <XorA> Freak_NL: now fix the code :-)
Jun 05 12:56:06 <Freak_NL> :p
Jun 05 12:57:08 <Laibsch> Freak_NL: Really?  Did not check.
Jun 05 12:57:26 <Laibsch> the kanji
Jun 05 12:58:02 <Freak_NL> Laibsch: the cold (being sick) has an extra kanji
Jun 05 12:58:17 <Freak_NL> same pronounciation
Jun 05 12:58:18 <Laibsch> OK
Jun 05 12:58:26 <Laibsch> Freak_NL: Ever heard of anki?
Jun 05 12:58:35 <Freak_NL> Ihaven't
Jun 05 12:58:36 <Laibsch> spaced repetition
Jun 05 12:58:45 <Laibsch> I am trying to compile it with OE
Jun 05 12:58:53 <Laibsch> Maybe some more goodies soon
Jun 05 12:58:58 <Freak_NL> nice
Jun 05 12:59:11 <Freak_NL> I've run into some problems with scim-anthy
Jun 05 12:59:49 <Freak_NL> need to do some debugging, but that will have to wait until after the exams
Jun 05 13:00:13 <Freak_NL> anthy seems to work, and scim-anthy types kana, but it won't convert
Jun 05 13:00:25 <Freak_NL> probably a path wrong somewhere
Jun 05 13:02:09 <Laibsch> let me know what you have
Jun 05 13:02:37 <Laibsch> Anything out in the public might attract some further interest and somebody that fixes it
Jun 05 13:02:59 <Freak_NL> currently a broken tomoe, a broken scim-anthy and I suspect working anthy and working scim-tomoe
Jun 05 13:03:10 <Freak_NL> and scim an gucharmap of course, but you have those
Jun 05 13:03:33 <Freak_NL> uim in OE doesn't seem to compile
Jun 05 13:03:42 <Freak_NL> that may need some checking
Jun 05 13:05:07 <Freak_NL> unfortunatly, my exams and essay keep me pretty busy now, so I won't be able to do some more bugreporting and building/debugging for a while 
Jun 05 13:06:26 <dcordes> could somebody look at the ralink rt73 usb driver on this page? I would like to install it on my akita but don't know how. http://www.tu-darmstadt.de/~p_larbig/wlan
Jun 05 13:12:13 <Laibsch> Freak_NL: uim compiles for me
Jun 05 13:12:20 <Laibsch> at least the last time I checked
Jun 05 13:12:45 <Laibsch> Freak_NL: Take your time
Jun 05 13:12:51 <Laibsch> and good lucck
Jun 05 13:13:47 <XorA> dcordes: isnt that the driver Zero_Chaos was working on
Jun 05 13:20:28 <dcordes> XorA: yep
Jun 05 13:20:52 <dcordes> XorA: will task-native-sdk give me everything to compile it on the z?
Jun 05 13:21:02 <XorA> dcordes: why not build it in OE
Jun 05 13:21:06 <Crofton> sounds like we have someone to test patch?
Jun 05 13:21:18 <dcordes> XorA: to be honest I wasn't able to set it up on my desktop
Jun 05 13:21:22 <dcordes> so I always compile on the z
Jun 05 13:24:21 <dcordes> think I will just try it again. would be useful somehow :)
Jun 05 13:25:24 <dcordes> Thing is, I have the oe repository in my sources but apt won't find bitbake
Jun 05 13:30:58 <dcordes> wrong chan sorry
Jun 05 13:31:02 <koen> dcordes: follow http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
Jun 05 13:43:47 * XorA hates ALSA
Jun 05 14:35:23 <dcordes> How can I merge the two different partitions on my zaurus akita?
Jun 05 14:35:38 <dcordes> I have a seperarte one for /home but need that space for /..
Jun 05 14:36:08 <hrw> we do not support it
Jun 05 14:36:49 <dcordes> ok I will check in oz then
Jun 05 14:37:01 <hrw> OZ also does not support resizing flash
Jun 05 14:37:05 <dcordes> will compile on device fore now...
Jun 05 14:37:14 <dcordes> hrw: ah I see
Jun 05 14:37:22 <dcordes> I thought you mean there is not help for zaurus here
Jun 05 14:37:46 <dcordes> well in that case I think I need to install my sytem to sd
Jun 05 14:37:52 <dcordes> the akita flash is a pita
Jun 05 14:38:12 <hrw> there is no way to detect flash split
Jun 05 14:38:34 <Laibsch> dcordes: Trying your luck here, now?
Jun 05 14:38:35 <dcordes> so that's soem kind of hardware thing?
Jun 05 14:38:36 <hrw> in normal world bootloader gives that info to kernel. zaurus has dumb bootloader
Jun 05 14:38:44 <Laibsch> Come on, recipes are easy!
Jun 05 14:38:45 <dcordes> Laibsch: what do you mean?
Jun 05 14:38:48 <Laibsch> I should know
Jun 05 14:38:52 <dcordes> Laibsch: nah that's too much for today
Jun 05 14:38:54 <Laibsch> I know nothing about compiling stuff!
Jun 05 14:38:59 <dcordes> important examination tomorrow
Jun 05 14:39:09 <dcordes> I need to keep some internal flash for geography
Jun 05 14:39:15 <Laibsch> Well, then do that instead of playing with your Z!
Jun 05 14:39:23 <dcordes> but I will learn that stuff later tomorrow or at the we
Jun 05 14:39:41 <dcordes> Laibsch: I'm just compiling my module on device
Jun 05 14:40:21 <koen> good luck with unpacking 415MB of kernel source
Jun 05 14:40:58 <dcordes> oops...
Jun 05 14:43:32 <dcordes> could somebody have the kindness to compile the module for me until I work my way through bitbake?
Jun 05 14:43:36 <dcordes> http://homepages.tu-darmstadt.de/~p_larbig/wlan/rt73-k2wrlz-1.0.0.tar.bz2
Jun 05 14:44:16 <hrw> bitbake rt73-k2wrlz
Jun 05 14:44:25 <hrw> for someone with proper builddir
Jun 05 14:47:06 <dcordes_> hrw: do I have a propper builddir?
Jun 05 14:48:38 <dcordes_> >NOTE: Not using a cache. Set CACHE = <directory> to enable.
Jun 05 14:48:38 <dcordes_> ERROR: no files to build.
Jun 05 14:52:08 <hrw> dcordes_: angstrom website has instructions
Jun 05 14:54:55 * koen uploads a few minimalist images
Jun 05 14:55:15 <hrw> that reminds me about redefining tasks/images
Jun 05 14:57:32 * koen moves to the kitchen to make some food
Jun 05 15:00:00 <dcordes_> hrw: where would I find those instructions on the angstrom website?
Jun 05 15:12:25 <hrw> 05 15:31 < koen> dcordes: follow http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
Jun 05 15:30:43 <dcordes_> hrw: there is noe OE.mnt in the bitbake tarball I fetched from berlios
Jun 05 15:30:52 <dcordes_>  mtn --db=/path/to/OE.mtn checkout --branch=org.openembedded.dev
Jun 05 15:32:15 <koen> 15:31 < koen> dcordes: follow http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-angstrom
Jun 05 15:32:27 <dcordes_> koen: yes that requires that file
Jun 05 15:32:50 <koen> try actually following the instructions instead of skipping half of them and complaining it doesn't work
Jun 05 15:33:04 <koen> e.g. step 1
Jun 05 15:35:43 <XorA> someone give me 2K GBP
Jun 05 15:36:21 <Crofton> http://linux.omap.com/pipermail/linux-omap-open-source/2007-June/010270.html
Jun 05 15:37:58 <dcordes_> ok sorry
Jun 05 15:38:13 <hrw> XorA: what for?
Jun 05 15:41:13 <koen> XorA: I'll give you 35GBP 
Jun 05 15:41:49 <XorA> hrw: Sony UMPC
Jun 05 15:41:58 <XorA> hrw: then I can bin annoying PDA's :-)
Jun 05 15:46:15 <dcordes_>  mtn --db=OE.mtn checkout --branch=org.openembedded.dev says the scheme of OE.mtn does not fit to my version of monotone. It is suggesting to "mtn db migrate". Should I do so?
Jun 05 15:48:12 <hrw> I think that sudo rm -rf will be ok
Jun 05 15:48:19 <hrw> dcordes_: do what it tells
Jun 05 16:38:54 <dcordes_> when I try to start bitbake I get http://pastebin.ca/541777
Jun 05 16:39:00 <dcordes_> did everything as explained in the guide
Jun 05 16:48:45 <koen> dcordes_: no you didn't
Jun 05 16:49:41 <koen> dcordes_: read step 4 again
Jun 05 16:56:39 <dcordes_> koen: I only want to build that rt73 module. ist it still necessary to bitbake the3 images in step 4 ?
Jun 05 17:01:56 <hrw> see you all
Jun 05 17:05:58 <dcordes_> koen: I did just fellow step 4. all 3 images were processed until 100% buy I received some error messages for them
Jun 05 17:13:52 <dcordes_> http://pastebin.ca/541888
Jun 05 17:47:42 <dcordes_> :(
Jun 05 17:53:12 <dcordes_> could somebody check my paste? http://pastebin.ca/541888
Jun 05 17:57:06 <pH5> dcordes_: check out lines 58 and 92
Jun 05 18:03:36 <dcordes_> pH5: the logfiles reffered to in these lines say /home/erdinger/OEgcc: No such file or directory. what's wrong here and how can I fix it?
Jun 05 18:07:03 <Laibsch> koen: Could we have the feedbrowser display the files inside a package as well?  Who wrote that script?
Jun 05 18:07:58 <pH5> dcordes_: packages/shasum/shasum.inc just calls $CC, so that has to be set incorrectly.
Jun 05 18:08:27 <pH5> not sure where that happens, in bitbake.conf there is a line: export CC = "${CCACHE}${HOST_PREFIX}gcc ${HOST_CC_ARCH}"
Jun 05 18:09:16 <dcordes_> pH5: oh I already searched that file but did not find anything with gcc. So which of these things have to be replaced with my local gcc path?
Jun 05 18:09:55 <pH5> none of them has to be replaced. don't you have the native gcc in $PATH ?
Jun 05 18:10:50 <pH5> I wonder if you set HOST_PREFIX to ~/OE accidentally.
Jun 05 18:11:07 <dcordes_> pH5: sure I do. it is in /usr/bin/ but in the error message bitbake is looking for something in my home folder
Jun 05 18:11:19 <dcordes_> let me check
Jun 05 18:11:47 <pH5> to me it looks like either CCACHE or HOST_PREFIX contain that dir but they shouldn't.
Jun 05 18:14:06 <dcordes_> pH5: I just symlinked :)
Jun 05 18:14:22 <dcordes_> it seems to work now
Jun 05 18:15:39 <dcordes_> looks like it's time for a big work through my neighbourhood ^^
Jun 05 18:15:52 <dcordes_> thank you all for the help!
Jun 05 18:21:11 <soatola> I've just put angstrom on my ipaq h2200, have a serial connection and networking. My problem is in getting the xserver working. Could someone point me in the direction of a suitable xorg.conf and driver?
Jun 05 20:54:36 <koen> Laibsch: in theory we can do that in the feed browser (hrw and I wrote it), but not in practice, since the Packages.filelist format sucks balls and is expensive to generate
Jun 05 20:55:19 <koen> Laibsch: we could adapt ipkg-make-index to write a a .list file or something like that
Jun 05 20:56:37 <Laibsch> koen: Would be certainly nice to have
Jun 05 20:56:55 <Laibsch> Should I add it to the BTS or will you keep it in mind?
Jun 05 20:56:59 <Laibsch> wb hrw
Jun 05 20:56:59 <hrw> what would be nice to have is also make f-b more like packages.debian.org
Jun 05 20:57:17 <hrw> angstrom-website/repo/minimo == search for minimo
Jun 05 20:57:19 <Laibsch> Well, saying that, can't we just copy it?
Jun 05 20:57:48 <Laibsch> I am sure they will give us the code and ipk format is the same as deb
Jun 05 20:57:48 <hrw> p.d.o code is available 
Jun 05 20:57:59 <Laibsch> Well, then how about it?
Jun 05 20:58:02 <koen> debian disabled it a few times due to performance problems
Jun 05 20:58:30 <hrw> and now it is running on separate machine
Jun 05 20:59:10 <koen> if we can make the interface less geeky, it would be nice to have
Jun 05 20:59:31 <hrw> yes. now it plainly suxx
Jun 05 20:59:51 <hrw> too much stuff given to user, to much clicks needed
Jun 05 21:00:36 <hrw> I would like to have something like http://packages.debian.org/portmap in f-b
Jun 05 21:01:06 <hrw> distro_release (section) description
Jun 05 21:01:14 <hrw> version1: archs/machines
Jun 05 21:01:17 <hrw> version2: archs/machines
Jun 05 21:01:48 <koen> that would be nice
Jun 05 21:02:27 <hrw> rewriting of f-b would be good. now it is patch on patch on patch code
Jun 05 21:02:57 <hrw> rather concept of what can be done then service
Jun 05 21:03:04 <koen> patch on patch on patch on koen-code :)
Jun 05 21:03:14 <koen> aka a polished turd
Jun 05 21:03:27 <hrw> koen: I removed lot of your code during my changes
Jun 05 21:03:36 <hrw> turd?
Jun 05 21:04:15 <hrw> ok, ibot told
Jun 05 21:05:30 <hrw> I go to sleep
Jun 05 21:05:31 <hrw> bye
Jun 05 22:00:03 <dcordes_> bye
Jun 05 22:14:16 <CoreDump|home> hi
Jun 05 22:57:46 <ljp> hmm.. might help booting if /dev were not normal files...
Jun 05 23:09:05 * ljp kicks fstab
Jun 05 23:11:19 <CoreDump|home> =)
Jun 05 23:12:40 <ljp> new machine.. havent worked out all the kinks yet
Jun 06 00:34:43 <kRiMe8> has any one had problems downgrading to previous ROMs , after loading angstrom rom?
Jun 06 00:41:28 <CoreDump|home> nope, and you shouldn't encounter any as Angstrom does not mess w/ the default partitioning of flash like certain other ROMs di
Jun 06 00:44:40 <kRiMe8> well when i downgraded it says kernal panic - not syncing: No init found try passing init = option to kernal
Jun 06 00:44:51 <kRiMe8> is this an easy fix?
Jun 06 00:47:18 <CoreDump|home> sounds like you've used the wrong kernel for your rootfs or your rootfs has not been flashed correctly
Jun 06 00:49:18 <kRiMe8> so i should reflash with correct rootts and all should be well/
Jun 06 00:54:18 <CoreDump|home> exactly
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