**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 13 02:59:57 2007 Jun 13 04:10:06 ~emulate stewie Jun 13 09:33:50 hey Jun 13 09:33:59 what do i rename the files to to install on a zairis? Jun 13 09:34:10 *zaurus? Jun 13 09:34:25 eg, zImage-2.6.20-spitz-20070605120802.bin -> zImage.bin Jun 13 09:34:35 what does Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070605-spitz.rootfs.tar.gz become Jun 13 09:34:42 and do I need gnu-tar?? Jun 13 09:38:11 yes Jun 13 09:39:32 uh Jun 13 09:39:40 care to elaborate? Jun 13 09:43:06 read OZ install doc? Jun 13 09:44:18 * daurnimator looks for it Jun 13 09:51:44 where do I get gnu-tar? Jun 13 09:51:57 ( its not in http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/spitz/20070604/ ) Jun 13 09:52:33 or are they all the same? Jun 13 09:54:38 take one from OZ then Jun 13 09:56:09 13 11:56 < koen> check the 0502 dir Jun 13 09:59:02 heh Jun 13 09:59:07 just appeared Jun 13 11:36:36 welll Jun 13 11:36:40 just tried installing angstrom Jun 13 11:36:48 and.... the install is just a heap of errors Jun 13 11:37:12 oh, wait Jun 13 11:37:17 I need to re partition the hdd Jun 13 11:52:23 ok Jun 13 11:52:26 all installed Jun 13 11:52:36 problem though: I can't do anything Jun 13 11:52:42 I'm in a root terminal Jun 13 11:52:56 and... I'm getting Input/output error when I try to make a directory Jun 13 11:52:59 which image did you use? Jun 13 11:56:09 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/images/spitz/20070604/Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-test-20070605-spitz.rootfs.tar.gz Jun 13 12:09:38 hrm... I don't know why it would be only in the console... Jun 13 12:14:25 oh well Jun 13 12:14:27 I installed again Jun 13 12:14:29 and now it works Jun 13 12:14:34 I have working angstrom! :D Jun 13 12:14:51 just.... it has no applications :P Jun 13 12:15:18 summatusmentis: would you be able to help me to get wireless working? I understand that angstrom doesn't come with drivers etc..... Jun 13 12:15:39 recent images came with drivers Jun 13 12:16:11 well... Jun 13 12:16:52 o Jun 13 12:16:52 nice Jun 13 12:17:02 as soon as you said that, the wifi card started flashing :P Jun 13 12:17:18 now.... how do I get the wifi to connect.... :P Jun 13 12:17:31 I edited /etc/network/interfaces to be correct... Jun 13 12:18:08 yet its still not connecting Jun 13 12:18:20 (sorry, I'm a newbie to this sort of stuf) Jun 13 12:18:24 Zero_Chaos, did you see the link? Jun 13 12:20:25 hmm Jun 13 12:20:50 ifconfig up results in: "error fetching interface information: Device not found" Jun 13 12:21:31 daurnimator: what type of card do you have? (i.e. which driver does it use?) Jun 13 12:21:41 prism i belive Jun 13 12:21:56 angstrom doesn't seem to come with lspci :P Jun 13 12:22:13 which module is loaded? Jun 13 12:22:32 daurnimator: it comes with lspci Jun 13 12:23:03 thesing: sorry? Jun 13 12:23:08 if both orinoco and hostap modules are loaded which is in use? Maybe orinoco took care off your card instead of hostap. Jun 13 12:23:15 for those machines which have pci Jun 13 12:23:19 hrw: well, typing lspci results in command not found Jun 13 12:23:29 daurnimator: because zaurus do not have pci Jun 13 12:23:43 daurnimator: you want 'pccardctl ident' Jun 13 12:23:47 thesing: hostap is loaded Jun 13 12:23:57 orinoco too? Jun 13 12:24:23 no Jun 13 12:24:59 what does iwconfig say? Jun 13 12:25:32 ok, its: "Intersil", "PRISM Freedom PCMCIA Adaptor", "ISL37100P", "Eval-RevA" Jun 13 12:25:59 and 0x0156, 0x0002 in next line? Jun 13 12:27:10 manfid: 0x000b,0x7100 Jun 13 12:27:31 function: 6 (network) Jun 13 12:28:44 thesing: which part do you need? Jun 13 12:28:56 ok. it is handled by orinoco and hostap Jun 13 12:29:11 wlan0 IEEE 802.11b ESSID:"daurnimator" Nickname:"" Jun 13 12:29:26 Mode: Managed AP:None Bit Rate:2Mb/s Jun 13 12:29:33 Sensitivity=1/3 Jun 13 12:29:52 ~pastebin Jun 13 12:30:00 Retry short limit:8 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Jun 13 12:30:06 I'm typing this manually :P Jun 13 12:30:50 Encryption key:XXXX-XXXX-XX Security mode:restrict Jun 13 12:30:57 is the encryption key set right? (do you use encpyption? which one?) Jun 13 12:31:03 I use WEP Jun 13 12:31:06 64bit HEX Jun 13 12:31:14 hi Jun 13 12:31:33 daurnimator: Take a look at "logread" Jun 13 12:31:34 64bit wep is strong stuff Jun 13 12:31:49 daurnimator: You are likely missing a module Jun 13 12:31:51 dcordes: no one near me would have a clue :P Jun 13 12:32:28 and I used 64bit cause it was a bitch to type anything into the PSP Jun 13 12:32:43 wep is weak and useless Jun 13 12:33:09 you don't understand how computer illiterate the area I live in is Jun 13 12:33:25 I just need something where someone doesn't go into window's search for network Jun 13 12:33:31 and automatically connect to me Jun 13 12:33:48 daurnimator: try 'depmod -a' and eject the card and try again. Jun 13 12:34:04 try what again? Jun 13 12:34:23 insert the card and bring up the interface. Jun 13 12:34:57 nothing Jun 13 12:35:55 daurnimator, ah you use angstrom on the psps? Jun 13 12:35:57 psp Jun 13 12:36:01 no Jun 13 12:36:04 do you have ieee80211_crypt_wep loaded? Jun 13 12:36:11 I use my psp on my wifi network :P Jun 13 12:36:13 thesing: yes Jun 13 12:36:14 ^^ Jun 13 12:36:28 daurnimator, which machine do you use with angstrom so? Jun 13 12:36:33 zaurus 3200 Jun 13 12:37:22 daurnimator: so if iwconfig shows the right things you should be able to bring up the card with ifup. Maybe its a problem with your AP? Jun 13 12:37:41 (uses spitz) Jun 13 12:37:56 thesing: works on 2 laptops, psp, everything Jun 13 12:38:12 even when I had GPE (OZ) installed on this same zauurs Jun 13 12:38:13 :P Jun 13 12:39:31 have you put your essid in "" in /etc/network/interfaces ? (you shouldn't) Jun 13 12:39:39 i have :S Jun 13 12:39:45 I normally do..... Jun 13 12:40:39 so Jun 13 12:40:44 how should my interfaces look IYO? Jun 13 12:41:32 for wep you can use gpe-network-setup (or how it is called) Jun 13 12:42:02 That inserts the key as ASCII AFAIK Jun 13 12:42:16 it has never worked for me before Jun 13 12:42:37 it works for me. so it seems worth a try ;) Jun 13 12:44:19 Zero_Chaos, could you do me a favour and see how much power the wifi device which you are using with that lenmark battery is eating? Jun 13 12:45:03 daurnimator: You should plug in the card and read the output of either dmesg or logread Jun 13 12:45:15 I will help you understand what is wrong. Jun 13 12:45:33 Can you access the AP with encryption off? Jun 13 12:45:53 (if you can turn off encryption temporarily on the AP) Jun 13 12:46:32 dmesg is indecyperable on the zaurus screen Jun 13 12:46:41 I can see a couple of things Jun 13 12:46:43 but not much Jun 13 12:48:25 hmm Jun 13 12:48:28 found something Jun 13 12:48:57 hostap_cs: Registered netdevice wifi0 Jun 13 12:49:10 pcmcia: request for exclusive IRQ could not be fulfilled Jun 13 12:49:36 pcmcia: the driver needs updating to supported shared IRQ lines. Jun 13 12:50:19 hostap_cs: index 0x01: , irq 137, io 0xc4840000-0xc484003f Jun 13 12:50:36 prism_hw_init: initialized in 200ms Jun 13 12:50:48 NIC: 0x801b v1.0.0 Jun 13 12:51:09 wifi0: PRI: id=0x15 v1.1.1 Jun 13 12:51:23 wifi0: STA: id=0x1f v1.5.6 Jun 13 12:51:35 wifi0: registered netdevice wlan0 Jun 13 12:51:49 prism2: wlan0: operating mode changed 3 -> 2 Jun 13 12:52:06 Laibsch / thesing / dcordes : does that help? Jun 13 12:52:47 daurnimator, you can dmesg > /media/card/mydmesg for example and read it out on your desktop machine Jun 13 12:53:02 that's what I do when I have a hard time reading things on the z Jun 13 12:55:14 dcordes: I guess he'd need connectivity for that. Not sure he does have that Jun 13 12:56:03 daurnimator, I have some problems for a week with hostap too Jun 13 12:56:13 daurnimator, can you scan? Jun 13 12:56:21 try iwlist wlan0 scan Jun 13 12:56:32 nice idea dcordes! Jun 13 12:56:33 http://pastebin.ca/564068 Jun 13 12:57:22 dcordes: the scan wrked. Jun 13 12:57:32 showing my access point Jun 13 12:57:54 daurnimator: Do you have task-base-wifi installed? Jun 13 12:57:58 If not, install it. Jun 13 12:58:09 no Jun 13 12:58:17 how do I install it without wifi :S Jun 13 12:58:23 sneaker net Jun 13 12:58:25 usb net Jun 13 12:58:40 since when we add hostap modules without rest of wifi? Jun 13 12:58:41 You must have flashed your Z Jun 13 12:58:44 daurnimator, for me, scanning stopped working Jun 13 12:58:57 and I can't associate with my ap either Jun 13 12:59:06 but monitor mode is finde Jun 13 12:59:07 Laibsch: got a download link :S Jun 13 12:59:18 hrw: You talk about a broken dependency? Jun 13 12:59:45 daurnimator: angstrom-distribution.org -> feed-browser -> search for task-base or wifi Jun 13 13:00:06 Laibsch, could a lack of that task-base-wifi be the source of my problem, too? Jun 13 13:00:46 dcordes: Well, it pulls in some things that are necessary and it seems a few things that are nice to have Jun 13 13:01:10 dcordes: For me, I think it is not worth the hassle to think if I *really* need it or not Jun 13 13:01:35 space is fairly cheap most of the time. If installing the packages fixes your problems, be happy. Jun 13 13:01:56 Laibsch, in other words. Just try it out :) ? Jun 13 13:02:07 hrw: You see, 2476 is very relevant ;-) Jun 13 13:02:14 dcordes: That is what I would do. Jun 13 13:02:47 dcordes: Please report your experiences in bug 2476 so that we can ship Angstrom with good out-of-the-box wifi support at release time. Jun 13 13:02:59 will do, sir Jun 13 13:03:22 dcordes: I think wifi usability is a very big issue for how users will perceive the quality of angstrom Jun 13 13:03:32 wtf Jun 13 13:03:37 now my SD card isn't detecing Jun 13 13:03:58 daurnimator: Again, logread or dmesg Jun 13 13:04:20 daurnimator: What device? Jun 13 13:04:22 Laibsch, that's what I experienced with many many people new to the ubuntu distribution. If their wifi didn't work they hated it and vice versa Jun 13 13:04:30 ?? Jun 13 13:04:55 well, I can fix most things.... but I need wifi to do it Jun 13 13:04:56 daurnimator: What is unclear? Jun 13 13:04:57 daurnimator, maybe you did not umount correctly Jun 13 13:05:03 without wifi, i'm hopeless :( Jun 13 13:05:12 Laibsch: you mean the pda? Jun 13 13:05:17 its a zaurus C3200 Jun 13 13:05:22 OK Jun 13 13:05:32 (I used spitz) Jun 13 13:05:47 spitz as in spitz images? Jun 13 13:05:52 yes Jun 13 13:05:54 That should be fine. Jun 13 13:06:35 install task-base-wifi and I think you will be good to go. Jun 13 13:06:41 heh Jun 13 13:06:52 if only I had a way to transfer it Jun 13 13:07:11 http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?name=wifi&action=search Jun 13 13:07:23 daurnimator: Well, you are going to need that for sure. Jun 13 13:07:28 thanks, but I already got it ;0 Jun 13 13:07:45 daurnimator: For about the zillionth time. What does dmesg say? Jun 13 13:07:56 Can dosfsck the card? Jun 13 13:08:00 Can you dosfsck the card? Jun 13 13:08:04 Laibsch, why don't you include task base wifi in the images? Jun 13 13:08:05 [22:53:53] http://pastebin.ca/564068 Jun 13 13:08:22 dcordes: I was about to propose this in bug 2476 Jun 13 13:08:51 Laibsch: I don't have the dependancies :P Jun 13 13:09:03 daurnimator: no, I meant your SD card errors Jun 13 13:09:13 oh, I restarted teh zaurus Jun 13 13:09:18 and it detected again Jun 13 13:10:50 where can I find kernal-module-zd1211rw? Jun 13 13:11:05 in the feeds if it is there Jun 13 13:11:07 if not nowhere Jun 13 13:11:21 daurnimator: if you have the modules, iwconfig and ifup you shouldn't need any further packages. Did you try the gpe-networkconfig tool? (insert everything without "" or 0x ) Jun 13 13:11:51 dcordes: bug 2477 it is Jun 13 13:13:11 thesing: While this is true, I found out by personal experience that just installing task-base-wifi cut 30 minutes of frtuiless IRC discussion down to "ipkg install task-base-wifi" Jun 13 13:14:08 Laibsch: i don't have the deps though Jun 13 13:14:36 (and it isn't in feedbrowser) Jun 13 13:15:15 Laibsch: Task base is included in recent images. Jun 13 13:15:32 thesing: not in 20070604 Jun 13 13:15:44 thesing: not task-base-WIFI Jun 13 13:15:56 not in the image I built yesterday for my spitz Jun 13 13:16:28 daurnimator: I am sure the dependencies are in. What do you lack? Jun 13 13:16:39 [23:08:10] where can I find kernal-module-zd1211rw? Jun 13 13:16:39 Laibsch: but in the image I downloaded and installed on my spitz. Jun 13 13:18:38 daurnimator: what does 'ipkg status task-base-wifi' say? (The Status line) Jun 13 13:18:56 daurnimator, did your terminal freeze when you tried to access the card before you rebooted? Jun 13 13:19:17 thesing: damn, you're right Jun 13 13:19:20 I already have it Jun 13 13:19:47 dcordes: no Jun 13 13:20:00 just, the device didn't show up Jun 13 13:20:09 dmesg said little Jun 13 13:20:10 ok nevermind. task-base-wifi is also installed on my machine Jun 13 13:20:18 so the problem can't be here Jun 13 13:20:33 Laibsch: next thing :P Jun 13 13:20:56 daurnimator: So I suggest that you try the gpe-network stuff as it worked for me OOTB. Jun 13 13:20:58 keep in mind: "iwlist wifi0 scan" works Jun 13 13:21:08 thesing: i just did Jun 13 13:21:14 - nothing Jun 13 13:22:01 daurnimator: Can you deactivate encryption temporarily? Jun 13 13:22:28 not really Jun 13 13:23:05 daurnimator: can you pastebin the output of 'iwconfig wlan0' 'ifup wlan0' ? (overwrite your key if you like but one can break wep in under 5 min anyway) Jun 13 13:23:21 is there a man page or something on /etc/network/interfaces Jun 13 13:26:18 somebody has an idea why I see networks in monitor mode (ie with airodump-ng) but not with the normal iwlist scan? Jun 13 13:27:45 ok Jun 13 13:27:47 wtf Jun 13 13:27:51 it just started working!!!! Jun 13 13:28:31 daurnimator, you can put wireless commands in your /etc/network/interfaces with wireless_ Jun 13 13:29:20 daurnimator: http://pastebin.ca/564112 Jun 13 13:29:53 this is my relevant part. But now that it works... Jun 13 13:31:08 ok Jun 13 13:31:10 strange Jun 13 13:31:17 I just kept typing ifup wlan0 Jun 13 13:31:22 about after the 10th time Jun 13 13:31:24 it worked Jun 13 13:32:37 10 mins Jun 13 13:32:42 and I should be in here on irc Jun 13 13:33:38 ipkg update fails on gsteamer :P Jun 13 13:35:27 ps, anyone able to compile the latest firefox? (2.0.0.4) Jun 13 13:35:28 :P Jun 13 13:35:36 (and package it) Jun 13 13:36:28 daurnimator: try minimo Jun 13 13:36:53 hmm Jun 13 13:36:55 ok Jun 13 13:37:16 is there anyway to copy a link in minimo? Jun 13 13:37:44 ctrl+c doesn't work? Jun 13 13:38:51 does it use gecko? Jun 13 13:39:37 I don't know Jun 13 13:41:14 damn Jun 13 13:41:21 I started installing firefox Jun 13 13:41:26 its taking ages Jun 13 13:42:17 daurnimator, thing is ipkg is not verbose with standard input Jun 13 13:42:31 sp you don't see entertaining status messages Jun 13 13:44:03 firefox.. we need to remove it from feeds Jun 13 13:45:39 o.o Jun 13 13:45:42 its awesome Jun 13 13:45:45 it's in the feeds so people can load it in gdb and fix it Jun 13 13:46:39 whats buggy with it? Jun 13 13:46:44 its just a bit slow Jun 13 13:46:48 but... its awesome Jun 13 13:52:13 hi Jun 13 13:52:16 :D Jun 13 13:54:18 i'm using gaim now Jun 13 13:54:28 should i switch to pidgin? Jun 13 14:04:18 hmm Jun 13 14:04:40 how do I change the menu? (start menu? K-menu? what is it called????) Jun 13 14:05:30 no idea. try asking in #gpe-project Jun 13 14:07:01 dear angstrom.. is it possible to ignore oabi in a eabi environment only once ?? Jun 13 14:11:12 rob_w|mib: what do you mean? Jun 13 14:11:50 i need to ignore a oabi object which is linked into eabi binary`s .. Jun 13 14:11:56 and breaks Jun 13 14:12:26 so i want the linker to ignore the eabi version differences just once .. i talk about the hal code from madwifi which is not available with eabi Jun 13 14:14:10 We shoudl remove some of the older kerneles ... Jun 13 14:26:53 dcordes: no I didn't see the link, and I'm sure it uses a lot of power Jun 13 14:33:38 Zero_Chaos, hey there. you were looking for the rt73 modules. they are in the feeds: http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=rt73-k2wrlz . concerning the power consumption of usb devices I had a problem with the kernel not allowing my device because its usb specifications said max power was 300mw so I needed a patch Jun 13 14:33:55 rob_w|mib: linker's *abi handling has little to do with angstrom. if it's possible, it's possible, and use the needed switch. otherwise, and likely, it's impossibel and is the gross hack. Jun 13 14:34:08 dcordes: if you have a powered hub that should not be an issue Jun 13 14:34:13 dcordes: that's how I do it Jun 13 14:34:29 and my question is if that problem is sourced in the lack of my battery hack being able to tell the host there is some power present or not or if its just the device consuming to much power Jun 13 14:34:50 Zero_Chaos, ok that's what I was trying to figure out. So also with 300mw should be no problem with the hub? Jun 13 14:35:05 dcordes: I believe it is fine. Jun 13 14:36:00 if I could just find a german reseller for that lenmark device Jun 13 14:38:52 which package provides ssl support reuqired by gaim-protocol-msn? Jun 13 14:39:25 the one that ipkg installs automagically Jun 13 14:39:45 hey Jun 13 14:39:55 how can i create more space? Jun 13 14:41:19 ~lart dlopen() Jun 13 14:41:26 dcordes: try libpurple-plugin-ssl-gnutls Jun 13 14:41:27 koen, gaim is asking for it when I try to connect to an msn account. Jun 13 14:41:40 I figured as much Jun 13 14:41:51 it used to link against an ssl lib Jun 13 14:42:06 anyone? Jun 13 14:42:25 i am trying to install abiword via ipkg Jun 13 14:42:34 but i am out of hdd space Jun 13 14:42:41 how can i resize partitions? Jun 13 14:42:50 (g)parted? Jun 13 14:43:19 psokolovsky_, quite bad Jun 13 14:43:38 i wrote the madwifi list .. lets see if one comes back there Jun 13 14:44:20 no space to install gparted :P Jun 13 14:46:25 koen, I installed libpurple-plugin-ssl-gnutls. Still gaim is lacking SSL on the attempt to connect to an msn account. Jun 13 14:46:56 weird Jun 13 14:47:01 sounds like a bug Jun 13 14:52:59 koen, filed it Jun 13 14:53:11 thanks Jun 13 14:53:21 2480 Jun 13 14:55:54 uh Jun 13 14:56:02 I accidently deleted libparted.so Jun 13 14:56:14 and ipkg still thinks i have it Jun 13 14:56:21 how do I get it to reinstall? Jun 13 14:56:23 daurnimato1, just try removing it Jun 13 14:56:31 ?? Jun 13 14:56:49 ipkg remove libparted or whatsoever && ipkg install libparted Jun 13 14:57:16 there is no libparted package :S Jun 13 14:57:26 between my prism works again after reflashing. didn't file a bug anyway Jun 13 14:57:54 I never tried to partition my small akita flash Jun 13 14:58:10 well Jun 13 14:58:20 I'm in need of resizing a partition Jun 13 14:59:06 and parted is borked Jun 13 14:59:48 yo zcordes, how can I add more than one channel into the xchat autojoin lists? Jun 13 15:00:30 dunno man I don't like monologues Jun 13 15:02:56 there goes my x after switching to tty Jun 13 15:07:34 ok, ther error parted gives: Jun 13 15:07:42 parted: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libparted-1.6.so.13: undefined symbol: __gnu_ldivmod_helper Jun 13 15:09:11 ah Jun 13 15:09:20 the parted package is corrup!! Jun 13 15:09:23 *corrupt Jun 13 15:09:33 could someone PLEASE recompile it for me? Jun 13 15:10:14 daurnimator: why can't you do it? don't you have OE installed? it's pretty easy Jun 13 15:10:40 Zero_Chaos: no :s Jun 13 15:11:48 don't currently have a working linux box Jun 13 15:11:51 and cygwin hates me Jun 13 15:12:23 oh well Jun 13 15:12:26 I gtg to bed Jun 13 15:12:30 1:15am Jun 13 15:12:36 and I have an exam tomorrow at 10 Jun 13 15:24:59 can someone explain to me why when I'm ssh'd into my Z, I can't use the arrow keys to move across a line when vim is in 'insert' mode ? Jun 13 15:30:25 hi Jun 13 15:31:09 hi CoreDump|home Jun 13 15:31:58 summatusmentis: sounds like a fucked up terminal environment or a broken vim Jun 13 15:32:17 CoreDump|home: fucked up terminal on which end? Z? Jun 13 15:32:30 probably, yes Jun 13 15:33:43 do you have that issue? Jun 13 15:34:02 hey CoreDump|home Jun 13 15:37:55 summatusmentis: never checked. But usually I just use busybox's vi Jun 13 15:38:15 I HATE passionately bb's vi Jun 13 15:40:20 =) Jun 13 15:40:56 actually, I passionately hate bb in general Jun 13 15:43:17 who doesn't? Jun 13 15:43:35 lol, thoe of you who use vi, apparently Jun 13 15:48:38 I avoid using it as much as I can ;) Jun 13 15:49:17 nano? Jun 13 15:50:21 a host pc and ssh Jun 13 15:50:52 I see Jun 13 15:51:26 * koen witnesses the battery door of his h2200 being catapulted trough the room Jun 13 15:51:41 a ghost? Jun 13 15:51:42 a bulge in the battery is bad, right? Jun 13 15:52:12 ouch Jun 13 15:52:25 erm.. yeah, it is Jun 13 15:52:30 :-( Jun 13 15:52:32 * koen gets out the replacement battery Jun 13 15:55:58 does a tutorial exist that shows how to boot angstrom from say, an sd card without modifying the internal flash? I'm specifically interested in doing this on an iPAQ h4355 Jun 13 15:57:12 mscdex: do you have OE? Jun 13 15:57:23 mscdex: afaik you can only do this if you have a 2.6 kernel installed. Jun 13 15:57:39 oh, CoreDump|home: bitbake altboot will build the most current one right? I don't need to specify the .bb file? Jun 13 15:58:07 i don't have an OE environment set up yet, not familiar with that yet Jun 13 15:58:13 mscdex: if you have just untar the image.tar to sdcard , compile the a kernel with a custom cmdline and start this kernel using kexec. Jun 13 16:01:34 summatusmentis: yes Jun 13 16:01:52 thanks cdbot2 Jun 13 16:01:53 i guess i'll pass on that for now and just wait it out heh, i'm not the most savvy when it comes to doing things like that (yet) Jun 13 16:01:56 shit, CoreDump|home* Jun 13 16:11:34 x.x, ebil computer Jun 13 16:13:54 s/b/v/ ? Jun 13 16:22:16 koen, what's a bulge? Jun 13 16:22:53 zcordes: prelude to an explosion I'm guessing Jun 13 16:23:14 zcordes: the battery is twice as big as usual Jun 13 16:23:49 NICE Jun 13 16:25:34 which is why the battery door went flying when I picked the ipaq up from the cradle Jun 13 16:25:48 your zaurus bat? Jun 13 16:25:57 oh ok Jun 13 16:26:02 47? Jun 13 16:26:22 ipaq h2200 Jun 13 16:29:42 koen: I'd take the battery outside Jun 13 16:30:06 you know, incase the thing bursts into flames, or something like that Jun 13 16:30:53